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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5808624

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)

Doom RPG series

Launchers for Build Engine games



Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/








>> No.5813104

=== ONGOING ===

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Ended, pretty much waiting for a final release

=== NEWS ===

[8-15] 'Out for Blood', an episode of Blood maps

[8-15] Anon map release: Bloody Pulp.wad

[8-14] Anon map release, he wants feedback

[8-13] Anon shares more Doom books

[8-12] Legion of Bones, a spooky monster pack balanced around vanilla

[8-12] Anon makes a Linux CLI launcher script for GZDoom

[8-12] System Shock 2 Enhanced Edition by Nightdive announced

[8-11] Dial-up for Murder releases some Doom-inspired MIDIs, for free use in projects

[8-7] Blood: Fresh Supply updates effectively discontinued

[8-7] A recent list of old websites hosted by Doomworld

[8-5] DBP14: After the Fall RC3/final release

[8-5] Anon Doom map release: Lumber Lordosis

[8-3] Assets from id's mobile games exported

[8-3] Golden Souls 3 demo released

=== PREVIOUS ===


== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5813108
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It's much too late for a DOOM thread. The caco is sleeping. Please don't disturb him.

>> No.5813123

>[8-15] 'Out for Blood', an episode of Blood maps

This worth playing?

>> No.5813126
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It's been 6 months since I started my procedural FPS project. Doing a 9 to 5 job and working on the game starts to ruin my health.

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I'm gonna pet the fuck out of you

>> No.5813145
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>finally finished marathon run of Ion Maiden
No regrets. Other than frame drops, the game was a good experience.
Now the question is, will people map for it? Though the map design in game is top notch, will the weapons and monsters get any love from the community that warrant it being mapped for instead of any other build game?

>> No.5813150

I honestly doubt it. I'd like it to, but if people don't map for Duke, SW or Blood they're not gonna start mapping for IF.

I've used Build/Mapster for decades now and know it like the back of my hand but it is woefully outdated for a new audience who want something like Doombuilder/Trenchboom

>> No.5813152

What happened to the GZDoombuilder guy who went on to make a Douk 3D map editor?

>> No.5813167

Is Ion Fury good?

>> No.5813170

Only if you play it

>> No.5813172

A nice website about Doom history.

>> No.5813190

you get like 10 maps a year for Blood, on a good year
it's not Duke or Doom
if you like Blood, you've already 100%'ed them maps

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>> No.5813209

Ion Fury Maiden Lady soundtrack in tracker format.

>> No.5813219

This is the best thread on 4chan right now

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>> No.5813250
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what's the password ?

>> No.5813258


Sick ass remix, wew

>> No.5813262

It's already on Spotify

>> No.5813275

>not linking to the original channel

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zoomers fear him
boomers hate him
this UGLY son of a bitch is perforating all your orifices and basically you're fucking stupid

>> No.5813314

.xm is betterererer

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>> No.5813327

How did you manage to get out of bounds?

>> No.5813330
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It is, but the human enemies barking the same fucking 5 sounds over and over and over again is driving me nuts.

>> No.5813331

Doors can push you through walls among other things

>> No.5813335

>doors don't kill you in a build game
truly doesn't belong on /vr/ :^)

>> No.5813340

You tried the usual /v/ passwords?

>> No.5813342
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Hold this for me. I need to use the bathroom.

>> No.5813349

They're cybros with proprietary audio software. No one figured out how to make them say anything else before the cyberpocalypse.

>> No.5813361

One track is called Maiden. HA!

>> No.5813371

maybe, i need to try

>> No.5813383

wow you have problems, seek help

>> No.5813414

I haven't played Fade to Black, but I wanna ask: are there any significant content or tonal similarities between it - and Half-Life 1?

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>> No.5813456

Just play it

>> No.5813469
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Excuse me?

>> No.5813474
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Why are mappers so autistic?

>> No.5813478

Because you didn't align your textures. Get back to work.

>> No.5813481

Lol it's not me. I'm specifically talking about the guy complaint that the bricks are going along the top with no support. Who fucking cares? Fucking map fags

>> No.5813485

looks UGLEH
but if you place 3 fiends in that corridor nobody will notice

>> No.5813487

have these people wronged you in the past?
because I get the impression its always (you)

>> No.5813491
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About that Daisy mod....
I think we found a compromise we can all agree on

>> No.5813520

>zoom zoom slayer

>> No.5813531

Doom should be re-licensed under the MIT license
>still open source
>source ports/raven engine source code still retain their gpl license
>zenimax/nu-id would be able to make propietary forks so they don't have to make hacky ports to Unity riddled with bugs and inaccuracies

Prove me wrong.

>> No.5813535

You need to go back.

>> No.5813538

It's not a Unity port.

>> No.5813539
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a MIT license you say?

>> No.5813547
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Nah, fuck Zenimax, Bethesda and Nu-id.

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>> No.5813561

Guess 3 times

>> No.5813564

There's probably nobody left of the original now.

>> No.5813567

What are you playing this weekend, you honkytonk motherfuckers?

>> No.5813584

Attempting Ion Maiden run on hardest

>> No.5813587

Get ready to quit and uninstall.

>> No.5813591

If you like terrible games, then sure.

>> No.5813594

Is the only difference between the last two difficulties enemy behavior? I could only manage to do the first 2 maps on Maximum Fury before I had to drop it down, and it seemed to have the same enemy total.

>> No.5813598

Jay Wilbur!
Father of deathmatch
Mis-identifier of Arch-Viles
Staunch opposer of doom being moddable

>> No.5813604

Actually Wilbur now works at Epic, I'm thinking of Tim Willits?

>> No.5813608

Pff please, I already beat the second hardest.

>> No.5813614

Tim is a sack of lies, and he left the other month.

>> No.5813616

You need to Dilate

>> No.5813618

What a catastrophe!

yeah, id died with Carmack resigning, or arguably much earlier than that with Romero

>> No.5813624

Sandy Badmaps is still there isn't he?

>> No.5813627

id were coming apart during Doom 2's development, in some ways even before that.

There are a fair few of these old developers that have nobody left anymore, and are an entirely different company wiggling about the corpse to sell games that might not otherwise sell.

>> No.5813628

bruh, he left to make the age of empires games, and I think doesn't do games anymore

>> No.5813631

Sandy left in 1997, he does a load of his own stuff now, especially his own /tg/ stuff.

>> No.5813632

Like Monolith, Raven
daily reminder Jace Hall has to have Blood's source code somewhere

>> No.5813640

Huh, could've sworn he was still there.
I guess Kevin Cloud is all that's left.

>> No.5813643

A miserable little pile of secrets?

>> No.5813647

What the fuck is that even supposed to mean?

>> No.5813650

They're all gone.

>> No.5813652

You really don't want to know, I guess that shit is the new /pol/kids thing after that one GDQ.

>> No.5813660

>look it up
good lord
why would anyone do this to themselves

>> No.5813661

Well, now I know. You're right. I really didn't want to know.

>> No.5813672

Mental illness.

>> No.5813680

wish I had never looked that up... wtf is wrong with people

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>> No.5813708

Texture alignment is important for Doom as well.

>> No.5813715
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This room was difficult until I found a reflective shots pickup. I have to wonder how you're supposed to deal with all these hitscanners on harder difficulties....

>> No.5813717

Kevin Cloud and Donna Jackson.
Tim Willits quit recently.

I'll dilate your asshole.

>> No.5813720

Sandy's maps being bad is a meme.

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>> No.5813725

RMB flare gun twice, everything dies

>> No.5813728

flaregun alt fire assrape

>> No.5813729 [DELETED] 

Trannies leave pls :/

>> No.5813737

That doesn't make any sense, how am I a tranny if I'm talking about fucking you in the ass with my dick?

>> No.5813747

I'm the guy you replied to, you're talking to some other anon
I don't get it either, and I'm a lvl 80 shitposter

>> No.5813748

You can't, I do not consent :/

>> No.5813783

You need to Die.

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I got ta say that I was enjoying the early parts of this game (and Shadow Warrior) where ammo was relatively scarce. The downside to playing a lot of Doom mods like Doom Incarnate is that there's barely a sense of resource management and you never have to scrounge or resort to melee to dispatch enemies.

>> No.5813806

Not even gonna give Ion shitty another try when it's fanbase is that fucking awful

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>> No.5813814

This thread doesn't need your drama

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>> No.5813830

I haven't been here for a while, fellas.
What did I miss?

>> No.5813840
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Lt. Typhon is such a nice mod.
Love the sprite work and easter eggs.
My only issue is that it gets too easy sometimes.

>> No.5813843

ion fury got released

>> No.5813847

Finishing up Deus Ex and starting Shadow Warrior.

>> No.5813851

Gonna be doing Ion Fury and Destiny 2.

>> No.5813860

Also it's shit

>> No.5813868
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Finished Turok 2 Remastered. I loved it.
The level design wasn't that painful as I remember(Hive of the Mantis and Primagen Lightship were pretty difficult).
The arsenal is awesome too, so are the enemies and the soundtrack.
What I disliked was the way it punishes you for not getting all the objectives nut that's not a big deal.

I wish there was more Adon porn

>> No.5813886

I just get the invisibility and either fire a rocket or two, or two secondary flare shots.

>> No.5813890

Ion Fury is just mediocre... I liked the demo mission, but the first levels of the final game is just a typical community trope collection, scatterbrained Build porn, overdetailing, confusing layouts, switch hunting and poorly designed monsters. Some of the OG Duke devs like Allen Blum should have designed this game instead of amateurs.

>> No.5813892

Starting the game right about now. I am really fearful of this. A masterpiece on the build engine tech level with great mood and design....

But everything else seems dull as fuck on previews, from the antagonist to Shelly boring shittalk. I hope I am wrong.

>> No.5813893

I agree with everything you just said

>> No.5813895

Forgot to add I hope to see some cool mods.

At least it's going to look beautiful, Blood has some amazing gorgeous levels but near the end it peters out.

>> No.5813897

I honestly don't find any of the weapons, enemies or the protagonist any fun, but it's worth playuing for the build engine porn

>> No.5813902
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so what would be a good way to shill Hideous Destructor to an audience of 30k people?
Though initial view surge might vary from 4k to 6k views, it would still be a nice chunk of people to expose to the mod, I wasn't really satisfied by the way Icarus covered it that one time and the mod has been updated regularly since then.

I might ask Eric for permission to use some of his HD footage so people can see some competent play.

>> No.5813905

She just sounds so fucking dull and fake.
I bet I will replay ashes 2063 after this.

>> No.5813906

there have been some impressive mods for eduke over the years i dont wanna spend 25 bucks for build porn.

>> No.5813912

I have found more success shilling Hideous Destructor to people who already like tacticool shooters (a-la old school Rainbow Six/Ghost Recon/ARMA/Flashpoint/etc) instead of people who just like DOOM. There's crossover for sure (I'm one of them that likes both), but I think it's much more rare to find a random Doom player that likes tacticool combat than it is to find a player who already likes tacticool shit and just get them to try this Doom mod.

While Eric's gameplay is fantastic, I would also encourage you to include gameplay from other tiers of players, not just the tip top tier. If you only show veterans, then people might think the only way to enjoy HD is to be good at it already, and when they try it and they suck initially, that might discourage them. The journey of suck is a big part of the experience imo.

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Is it just me or is Ion Fury's highest difficulty (Maximum Fury) not that bad?

I haven't finished the game on it, mind you. But so far what I've played on MF doesn't seem that horrifying as Civvie feared in his review. Seems pretty doable, specially with the weapons being so powerful. Even abusing Loverboy's alt-fire cowboy execution thing while crouching, weaving, and jumping around is more than enough for many encounters

>> No.5813920

I think he mentions it, the game only starts getting hard as fuck in the mid or so.

>> No.5813923

What changes from UV to MF anyway? Both enemy count and enemy damage? Or just one of them?

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>> No.5813941

that anon last thread who said doom's enemies were basic should try and play heretic because bosses aside, it has a more basic ass enemy roster

>> No.5813951

I think you're right.
Your best target audience is people who like both games like Doom and Quake, and games like SWAT4 and Rainbow Six.

>> No.5813953

Seems to be attack frequency and reaction time.

>> No.5813954

Heretic isn't a bad game, but it's an example of why you actually want hitscanners for shooters like these.

>> No.5813965

What I am finding in Ion Fury is that while the art for weapons firing is great, the enemy animations and dying animations are crap and not satisfying. It's the first fucking thing you make sure looks good in a game like this.

>> No.5813984
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>Duke Nukem
Held hostage by Randy Bitchford after the most infamous development hell in gaming history.
Dead as fuck
>Shadow Warrior
A good reboot and a mediocre sequel that has nothing of the original, most likely stops here
Started great and promising with the first "New" series entries, then went to shit with New Colossus and Youngblood, also probably dead
>Quake Champions
Gets less players, lack of focus and care by the devs. Dead

>TFW Doom might follow the same path
All these franchises making a comeback looked so promising but so far they went downhill not too much later.
Look,I'm hyped for Eternal but Bethesda track record has been a disaster lately. And makes me fear they could interfere with the development.
I fear that id software showed us only the good parts and hiding the bad ones.
It doesn't help how bad the Doom community became around the time Eternal was first revealed at E3 2018.
In Social Media, forums etc.
It became unbearable for me and doesn't feel the same anymore, I only found anything pleasant by the community mods(even with the occasional drama).
In the end I'm hyped and fear the day Eternal comes out. Because if it turns out to be mediocre or worse than Doom 2016(which I liked) or straight up bad, then it's going to be nuclear.

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I tried Demonsteele ans and really enjoyed it and I was thinking.
Would it be possible to make a Metal Gear Rising mod?

>> No.5814038

still waiting on flying wild hog to make a Blood remake
make the cultists even more deadly, make it grimdark as fuck, set it in depression era detroit, it'll be great

>> No.5814042

Greasy Bastard is in a lot of hot water so the future of Duke isn't certain yet.
I think there's still enough love for Duke from people who liked Duke Nukem 3D.

Shadow Warrior 2 I wouldn't even argue is mediocre, I would argue it's below average. It seems it killed the reboot as a series because I haven't heard anything at all about it since.

Wolfenstein took an absolute fucking nosedive after Machine Games switched the dev team, but there's still one more game left (Youngbloods was apparently a spinoff). It's not looking good so far, but if we're REALLY lucky, maybe it's the old dev team who will make the last game.

Quake is very uncertain. Machine Games said they were interested in doing something with the IP, which depending on what dev team gets it could be either great news or a tragedy.

>> No.5814043

That would be interesting as fuck, but;
1) Atari
2) How much are you willing to trust Flying Wildhog haver Shadow Warrior 2?

>> No.5814047

>Shadow Warrior 2 I wouldn't even argue is mediocre, I would argue it's below average
movement physics are fucking awesome, but you need to play on bullet sponge mode to even have a chance for any cool weapons dropping
I'll co-op that bitch one day, see what I thunk

>> No.5814049

What's the name of that butch old lady?

>> No.5814056

none of their games are nearly as good as painkiller's simplistic perfection, but hard reset to SW to SW2 they've been steadily improving

>> No.5814059

How do I get someone to draw Quake 2 guy/Turok/both in business suits eating breakfast and they suddenly go "I'm late for work!" And they grab their shotguns by the handle and rush out the door

>> No.5814083

What engine?

>> No.5814084

Which one?

>> No.5814096

>Would it be possible
Yes, if you make it

>> No.5814104

Quake2 guy is called GRUNT in q2, BITTERMAN in Q3 (cos of the escape pod in intro q2 level)

Quake2 had some of the best models and skins. Who remembers the Krak Hor model? Was practically canon

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The one that had a shotgun with a handle

>> No.5814130

I'm really fucking tired of Joel's Doom map contests

>> No.5814135

I want Joel to host something with Quake or Build

>> No.5814137

Joel ain't that good in Doom, imagine him in Quake or Build engine games

>> No.5814140

>Show someone Hideous Destructor

Why are people such tryhards. We get it, you want people to view you as some purist snob. Could you be less annoying about it

>> No.5814143

Joel is a nice dude but he's not that good at Doom.
Doesn't help that most of those maps in these contests are low effort crappy meme stuff.
Then you have more interesting ones but he doesn't bother.

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Cool gam

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>> No.5814156

What about my HD post gave you the impression that I am unkind?

>> No.5814158

taco bell la le lu

>> No.5814159

>somebody saved it
that edit always brings a smile to my face

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>> No.5814171

It's not awful, some things are better (weapons feel more punchy and satisfying for instance), but the level design and the enemy design, they're such a dramatic downgrade it's not even funny.

>> No.5814186

people have ported blood textures to quake
but what about putting quake textures in Blood

>> No.5814206

So who made the first ever fan Ion Fury map?

>> No.5814241

What's wrong with nuShadows Warrior 2?

>> No.5814248

Aside from some improvements like movement and more punchy and satisfying weapon sounds.
It's a downgrade in everything else.

>> No.5814249

it's a step up from shadow warrior remake part 1 in many ways, but it's also very clearly trying to be borderlands and it's all a mess

>> No.5814259

I would argue the enemy design and variety is improved in SW2 over SW1, but the level design is still very bland. Just a couple medium sized playgrounds with random shit spawned in, only a few actual levels. On the other hand the level design in nu-shadow nu-warrior 1 was also very bland with maybe one memorable sequence in the entire game (the castle in the clouds)

>> No.5814268

Unity, with lots of custom code for
1. making normal mapped sprites work properly
2. porting over my IK/hierarchical animation engine for segmented sprite actors
3. the procedural map generator itself and the asset "mutator"

>> No.5814269

I disagree with everything you just said.

>> No.5814271

descent is such a wierd game concept
>yeah space ships dogfighting
>full polygonal 3D 6 DOF
>set it in quake levels for some reason

>> No.5814273

>the procedural map generator
Interesting coding challenge, not a fun gameplay mechanic.

>> No.5814276

>What the fuck is that even supposed to mean?
nothing, they just love repeating phrases and memes just became while ironically using the npc wojak meme with no self awareness or second guesses

>> No.5814305

Quake was set in futuristic mines?

>> No.5814317

it's complicated

>> No.5814318

*pumps cock*

>> No.5814320

Descent I & II is set in mining and military installations, III had some more "recognizable" environments and limited outdoor stuff.

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Giving it a second chance right now Quake 2 is actually quite enjoyable.
Guess I was just a little burnt out on FPS last time I tried it.

>> No.5814346

Doesn't matter that you disagree, the maps are cluttered as shit.

>> No.5814375

And no one comments on how the "city" under the clouds is a circuit board

>> No.5814376

They really aren't though. Of the build engine games this is the one where I have gotten lost the least amount of times.

>> No.5814379

The final boss of Ion Fury gets my vote for the most obnoxious boss ever put in an FPS game.

>> No.5814381

Because no one but you cares. Have sex.

>> No.5814382

My favourite part of Quake 2 is the room with all the boxes

>> No.5814383

>procedural map generator

Making a good one requires even MORE effort than making levels by hand. That's why good procedural maps do not exist in a realm of 3D - 2D is magnitudes easier and even then good generators are exceedingly rare.

>> No.5814384

He could have handled them a lot better.
IIRC he said the next contest he'll do will be something different, and he's acknowledged that the second one was mismanaged and a mess, so I figure he'll put more thought into whatever he plans next in that regard.

He said something like how if he does another Doom contest one of the rules would be that levels shouldn't be longer than 15 minutes, and that people shouldn't perhaps submit giant epics.
I really hope he'll try to get better at actually playing Doom when he does that as well, because him not being very good at the game was part of the problem.

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But how is the boss fight itself?

>> No.5814392

>They really aren't though
Sure thing, chief.

>> No.5814393

Half the time he was sucking, the other half of the time he was sucking and cheating.

It was painful to see decent looking maps being treated like shit because he was rushing to stream GTA instead or some shit.

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>> No.5814398

>He could have handled them a lot better.
Like being atleast alright at the game to begin with

>> No.5814403
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They are really right about Ion being build porn.
It's so beautiful. Fuck I want games to just pick this late doom\thief 90s aesthetic and make evermore complex games. It's never going to happen.

>> No.5814417

has anyone tried making a doom mod inspired by space station 13?

>> No.5814423

Several times, they've all failed due to the complexity of trying to pull off that shit.

>> No.5814425

By not sucking ass

>> No.5814426
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I've seen so many discussions on franchises reboots but how about a Turok reboot/sequel?
Yes, there was a reboot in 2008 but that kinda sucked. Prey 2006 felt more like Turok.
Anyway, I think an upgrade system would be neat,for example you start with a bow, then you level it up and becomes a Tek bow.
It could avoid the arsenal to feel cluttered. Keep the Cerebral Bore, it's iconic.
About Turok himself, either Joshua or Tal'Set would be fine, not a fan of Danielle and Joseph.
More power ups like using thunders and summon animal spirits as companions.
A berserk mode where you wield two tomahawks and slash the enemies, like the katana in Shadow Warrior.

Anything else?

>> No.5814429

>the maps are cluttered as shit
Sure thing, chief.

>> No.5814435

To be honest, I never found the UV too difficult at any point. The final boss was the only time where I felt "How the fuck do I pull this off?"

>> No.5814441

Not everyone has directional dyslexia, anon.

>> No.5814445

Amid Evil > Ion Fury > Dusk

>> No.5814446

6 months ago I tried some "manual" mapping, but the project changed a lot since then, I wanted every run to be a unique experience. It's now closer to a Heretic/Hexen-like dark fantasy setting across 6 thematic zones. I also included a waypoint system like D2. No inventory or loot management.
I almost have the generator at a point where it produces consistently working and fun maps across a complete zone.

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I'm over the hump with Quake 2. Like a lot of people I find Q2 pretty boring early on but after getting some of the heavier weapons and stretching my legs the game clicks for me. The gamefeel isn't good but once you get competent enough it gets a bit better.

>> No.5814452

Not retro, retro, not retro.

>> No.5814454

I wasn't arguing traversal, cockbreath. Why don't you go find me a portion of map in an open area that doesn't have shrill colors all over with nothing to rest the eyes on? The game is a complete eyesore, plays fine, but otherwise is a nigh complete fucking mess to look at.

>> No.5814461

Damn anon you're making me want to give Quake 2 a second chance

>> No.5814464

Yes, as said in my post.

>> No.5814468

Civvie actually blows at FPSes

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The OST is also fantastic. Gravity well, Kill Ratio, Quad Machine, Descent to Cerberon. All nice

Come to think of it try to mute the music in Quake 1 and put Quake 2 soundtrack. It fits so well.

>> No.5814475

>People putting Amid Evil on top
Why? What does it do that's so good? All I see are forgettable enemies, shiny weird maps and gimmicky magic weapons that are just glorified guns minus the satisfaction of firing a big fuckoff gun.

>> No.5814476

UV seems to be the perfect balance for me. Just challenging enough to play without having to quicksave between every encounter.

>> No.5814480

honestly this is one of the reasons I couldn't stand playing this game for more than a couple hours at a time. the maps flow decently but they could've turned the detailing down a notch, it can be a bit disorienting cus the enemies can blend in with the environments sometimes. i guess I'll just get used to it the more I play, but I find the visual design both impressive and impractical. I think civvie brought this up in his review at some point, good call from his part.

>> No.5814481

The glass cannon thing is right. Most enemies later on have the ability to one shot you.

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>try to mute the music in Quake 1 and put Quake 2 soundtrack
You fucking heathen

>> No.5814487

He's pretty good, he also admits it that despite loving games like Blood he sucks at them. I watch him for the comedy.

He still plays them better than Gmanlives though

>> No.5814490

Yeah, I started off on Wanton but by the end of the second level I realised it was too easy. UV is great because the fights are more frantic and some of the enemies have the ability to utterly destroy you if you're not paying attention.

>> No.5814493

Whoa I still love Quake 1 OST, I just pointed out how well Quake 2 OST fits

>> No.5814494

It's very busy and crammed I agree. Enemies needed more animation maybe.

It's funny going the extra detail pcs can handle now is really amazing, but for example HL echoes did it well keeping it detailed but slim.

>> No.5814497

I started on the highest, but was getting shredded endlessly during the wind factory level and dropped down there. I was worried about anything lower not having the max amount of enemies, but that doesn't seem to be the case between MF and UV.

>> No.5814504

>It's very busy and crammed
That's the issue I have with most Retro FPS maps remakes

>> No.5814515

His motor skills are lame but they aren't what I sit through his videos for. He did give some fair assessments on blood 2 and shogo in a concise fashion, and I guess it's got do with his personality more than anything else, but I find the 'romping through a game and dissecting it as we go' approach more oddly revisitable than a flat review. Makes you want to check out the subject matter on your own at one point too, you know?

I also like that he brought forth the term 'raw' as a referral for underdeveloped/poorly thought out mechanics and outright bad design in vidya.

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>> No.5814525

Sometimes it's the other way and go too minimalist.

Most shit in arcane dimensions is great.

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>> No.5814532

Totally agreed. Imagine if you were playing Doom and every fucking shotgunner repeated the same 2 lines over and over. They should've had them grunt or breathe instead of speak.

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Arcane Dimensions looks wonderful.
About Ion Fury it reminds of Deathwish for Blood when it comes to the city levels.
All maps are incredibly detailed but not as busy are Ion Fury(still looks great though)

>> No.5814537

The only thing I kinda agree with there is that the detail is pretty evenly spaced out. So sometimes things don't stand out so well. It's hard to get lost, but visually it's a little overbaked in some areas.

>> No.5814538

>Most shit in arcane dimensions is great
>that e1m1 remake where each secret from the original is a red herring

>> No.5814540

Yeah. I hope a mod comes out to reduce barking frequency or something. That should be entirely within the realm of possibility, I hope?

>> No.5814541

Normally youre so far above it looks like a city

>> No.5814542

*grabs crotch*
What about the cultists from Blood? They never shut up and yet I've never found them annoying because of that.

>> No.5814545

He's not horrible, but he's not reeeaaally pro. He lacks accuracy and a little timing.

>> No.5814546

is the recently Ion Fury map editor compatible with other build games?

>> No.5814547

The flak mace is fucking awesome. The satisfaction in using that weapon comes from killing enemies and seeing them fly a hundred feet away or slam into and stick to a wall. And the game doesn't really get truly great until episode 4. Also, to be honest none of those games are really that great. Dusk starts pretty good but around the halfway point it starts to drop in quality. I'm really not that big of a fan of the third episode. Its also just way too fucking easy. The only way to make the game harder was to play the one hit and you're dead mode which is such a lazy, bullshit way of making a "Hardest" difficulty. I just finished Ion Fury so I'm still processing what I thought about it, but in general I thought the enemy design was just okay and the levels became pretty bland after the first few zones. The only level I thought was memorable later on was Heskel's House of Horrors which is clearly one of the levels they put the most time into. Its really fucking good. The weapons felt good to use for the most part but there were too many throw-able explosives. Amid Evil isn't the most consistent game but I thought episode 4 and 6 blew anything else in the other games out of the water. Its also the only game out of the three to have half decent boss fights.

>> No.5814560
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>There's a manwa(korean manga) based on Blood called Priest
>The creator himself confirms it
For being quite obscure for years, the game sure left its mark

>> No.5814573

I would have gotten this if the Switch port had multiplayer.

>> No.5814585

Even with full armor and health? If so, why even have a health/armor system at all if enemies can one shot you through it?
Might as well go the Dante Must Die route and make it so that everyone dies in one hit.

>> No.5814586

Which Civvie review is that NICE FUCKIN MODEL + honk honk thing from, I don't remember. I've watched a ton and they've blurred together.

>> No.5814587

It's literally Mapster32 from the EDuke32 project.

>> No.5814590


>> No.5814591

A lot of them.

>> No.5814594

is that what the Death Wish dude used?

>> No.5814598


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where to read

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>> No.5814618

Don't think leveling weapons up so they change into another more powerful variant is a good idea.
The old style of finding an improved version out in the field is better.

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Now that we're at it. How would a Beetlejuice Doom mod could work?

>> No.5814620

It'd probably end up like a void map.

>> No.5814624

Ion Fury's shotgun is pretty satisfying, especially when you score a headshot. I wish they gave us more weapons though, who thought it would be a good idea to give us two grenade type weapons? Why not make the puck an explosive disc thrower gun or something?

>> No.5814627

I'm honestly surprised the Loverboy's altfire doesn't have some sort of cooldown or meter that you have to fill up in order to use it.

There doesn't seem to be anything to prevent you from abusing the shit out of it as often as possible - am I wrong?

>> No.5814630

Yes, it's overpowered.

>> No.5814632

>Dick's Secret Stashes
Who's Dick, anyway?

>> No.5814636

Civvie is entertaining at least, and admits he's not that good. He is also honest in his opinions and backs them up with practice and demonstration.

Different person, but:
Level design combines all the best parts of Heretic, Quake and Unreal. Out of all 3 shooters I like levels of AE the most, even if they are less detail-packed than IF, and for me levels are about 80% of the reason I enjoy oldschool style of shooters. Hence why I enjoy AE the most.
Also fantasy-FPS are such a rarity that AE really should be in a different league.

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I love that the Loverboy is based on a real revolver.

>> No.5814649

It prevents you from running for a bit? That's all I can think of for downsides. It's nice to have a starting gun that isn't useless by the second quarter of map 1, but they went too far with it.

>> No.5814651

Dick Kickem.

Also there's an ATM by "worst ATM ever" that have "Nukem" marker on it, which throws money at you and squeals in high pitch "shake it baby"

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Hey look at that, it does have bubblegum gut stretchies

>> No.5814658

look no further than that early quake mod recreating doom >>5814598

>> No.5814663

Is there anything from the Early Access period of Ion Maid- I mean Fury that was lost in translation to the final 1.0 release?

I hear people liked the preview campaign, but it seemingly doesn't exist anymore in the final game. Is it something 1.0 buyers are missing out on, or not really since it was repurposed all over the main campaign?

>> No.5814669

I always thought that looked terrible.

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You can still play those levels in Bonus Missions (Crisis in Columbia)

I think they dried to emulate "smart" enemies of FEAR and HL2 that announced their tactics.
However in FEAR there were lots of lines recorded for each possible player position - Above us, By the Door, Behind that table, Lower floor, In that window, near the terminal etc... - pretty much every object on the game had several enemy lines to describe player's position relative to it, and then they gave tactical commands like "circle him, flank him, engage" etc.

IF enemies just scream "here he is" and thats it.

>> No.5814705

Surprisingly they actually yell "grenade, take cover" if you toss a bowling bomb at them. But that's pretty much it, and of course they can't actually take cover or communicate to eachother.

>> No.5814706

What's the best difficulty for the very first playthrough of Blood? I heard that hard is **really** fucking hard there. I only played Doom 1 and 2 on UV and Quake 1 on Hard so I wouldn't call myself very skillful.
Also what port is the best? NBlood, BloodGDX or should I maybe just play Fresh Supply?

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>> No.5814719


A Direct a feature request for more lines at the devs
B mod it yourself

instead of being an INSUFFERABLE whiny sperg on a Mongolian kite builder forum. Fuck...

>> No.5814729

Still kinda shit that Ion Maiden is the prequel to that really mediocre Bombshell game. But it's fantastic just how good it is. It's like fucking Duke Nukem 3D 2.

>> No.5814741

Irl it's only a 25acp round though iirc. Which is pretty weak. I also don't remember if they fire all at once or sequentially. P sure it's sequential.

>> No.5814746

Dude. If anything you're the whiner. It's okay for people to discuss a game's flaws on a video game discussion forum.

>> No.5814754

Spotted the sperg

You gotta keep em separated

>> No.5814757

It does look terrible but it's awesome

>> No.5814759
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Instead of human cyborgs replace Ion Fury's enemies with Quake Champions

>> No.5814761

What's the alternative?

>> No.5814767

>Still kinda shit that Ion Maiden is the prequel to that really mediocre Bombshell game. But it's fantastic just how good it is. It's like fucking Duke Nukem 3D 2.
pretend there's a good and bad endings or some shit like that

>> No.5814770

It's shame those cool models and skins are all squandered on a game like QC

>> No.5814773

>Quake Champions
Is that what they call furfags these days?

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>> No.5814779

>They never shut up and yet I've never found them annoying because of that.
probably because of their latino esque gibberish, shouting and silly voices

>> No.5814786

In GZDoom, is it possible to make an entity to be completely transparent to all projectile/hitscan (meaning they go through it into whatever behind it) except for select few, without using GHOST and THROUGHGHOST?

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It's not perfect but fuck I hope it sells. I want to live in a world of games like these.
But actually instead of just copying old 90s gameplay, taking that level design and even going further with what modern engines can allow.

I have this silly dream, and must not be the only one, of a industry full of games that pick up that old low poly clean textures aesthetic like Homeworld, Thief , Duke, Quake, and even semi 2d 3d console stuff and just make more complex games from theere.

Maybe I should just be glad and thankful this even exists, alongside incoming stuff like Wrath aeon of ruin.

>> No.5814809

i can't unsee the foot lick pic.

>> No.5814810
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Why do I enjoy watching Shelly's mugshot get bloody/hurt/dead/decapitated/mashed

I'm not even an incel and I find it somewhat arousing in a morbid way. I felt somewhat similar to Doomguy's and Ranger's sprites, but not as much

>> No.5814819

you need some vanilla serum fast nigga

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That kinda sucks but look on the bright side. If this game sells enough, we might get a sequel to that game but with the gameplay of Ion Fury.
The devs sure don't care about it anymore but they sure put tons of care on those models.
Ranger,Sorlag,Visor all have nice redesigns

>> No.5814840

You need Jesus

>> No.5814843

Jesus' bloody mug has a similar effect on me

>> No.5814846

So one of IF's reviews ends with statement on how oldschool FPSes got obsolete when Half-Life came out. Not trying to be that senseless HL hater, actually love the game, but I don't get it when people say how revolutionary it was. Only two things come to mind:
- Interconnected levels. Maybe it was somewhere already, not sure.
- Cutscenes that don't take control from player. IMO this thing is dumb, you just jump around waiting when NPCs end talking.

>> No.5814848

Bro. Sometimes you can just take thoughts and keep them to yourself. They dont need to be shared with the whole world

>> No.5814856

>IMO this thing is dumb, you just jump around waiting when NPCs end talking.
It's bizarre to me that the people who i've seen complain about some Japanese games have 14 minute cutscenes defend AAA titles with slow walking interactive cutscenes.
At least in most MGS stuff, you can skip most cutscenes and the experience will still feel "gamey" and tell a story that cannot fit a movie.

>> No.5814857

Is she really spewing Offspring lyrics?

>> No.5814859

Honestly, I think most people saying that nowadays haven't played Half-Life or haven't played it for a long time. It's actually still very close to the game that came before it especially when you compare it to games that came later and modern shooters.

>> No.5814860

"interactive" cutscenes is the worst thing HL has done to video games. There is not a SINGLE instance where such a thing is warranted or enjoyable.

>> No.5814865

GoldenEye did it first kinda

>> No.5814871

since we are talking HL any good mods besides Echoes?
dont know if you can take BHL and Half Payne outside of the campaing

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So I'm curious about some Ion Fury stuff. Sorry if these are stupid questions.

It was built on EDUKE32, right? What are its differences with just pure Build? Just the OpenGL Renderer, or any limit-removing stuff a la Doom/Boom?

Could you use the IF client to run Blood, Shadow Warrior or DOUK by just loading its assets, sort of like an IWAD? Or does it not work that way at all in Build?

>> No.5814876

What a mature response to criticism. Are you even old enough to be here?

>> No.5814879

Anyone else having framerate issues in Ion Fury? My shit's running at like 20 fps and I'm playing on a mid-range PC

>> No.5814882

Turn off v-sync if it's on for whatever reason. If not, go into your video card settings and turn on OpenGL triple buffering.

>> No.5814884

Sometimes it does that. Have you tried lowering the resolution or using the launch command useallavailablecores?

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it does run badly for me but to be fair its a laptop,
should have more than enough juice to run that thing though, its got and i7 7500u, 8 gigs of ram and a GT940MX, not a mid range PC by any means but having framerate issues in a build game is ridiculous

>> No.5814887

Having a bad day, champ? All that anon did was voice a fucking opinion.

>> No.5814889

Raising the 60 FPS cap to 120 FPS from the menu did it for me, even though I only have a 60 Hertz monitor. Also make sure VSYNC is disabled (it should be, by default)

>> No.5814892

The way someone explained it on the steam forums is that the hardware is holding back because it isn't expecting the game to be demanding.

>> No.5814893

The loverboy's alt fire is really OP. On UV I managed to clear the beginning of map 3 only using it with little to no penalty for doing this.
Why would that add a Red Dead Redemption style instant win button in the first place? I'm a total faggot so now I know its there I'm going to use it.

>> No.5814897

do you put that in the console or in the file path for the shortcut?

>> No.5814903

each Build game is completely different

Build, the base, is like a renderer which on tops of that provides a base for game code

Then each game takes that base for their game code and expands on it differently.

That's why you can't directly use Eduke32 to run other Build games, they all differ at the chore.

The exception being the games based on Duke3D code, like NAM or WWII GI

>> No.5814910

The spider heads are a little annoying, but what I really hate are the flying shits. They aren't fun to fight and they have a habit of hiding above your head and sniping all your health while you're distracted.

>> No.5814912

Yes, this is widely known. Kind of a galaxy brain move tee-bee-haich. Let's make the starting weapon OP as fuck. I mean it's a refreshing thing, seeing as most starting weapons are peashooters, but they took it pretty far with that alt-fire. It needs a cooldown or building up a meter or something. I've pretty much stopped using its main fire altogether.

>> No.5814917

Well you can use it if you want, but isn't it more fun and rewarding to pull those headshots by yourself?

In a way I think it's smart because it lets people who can't into oldschool shooters win their way through some of the tough situations. The same can be said about the bombs lock on.

>> No.5814918

I see two reasons: making it viable for late game (especially for those drone/spider heads) and mayyybe to make it not that frustrating for less skilled players or gamepad users.
Although unlike manual headshotting it doesn't trigger nasty death animations as often, for me at least.

>> No.5814919

Do I have bad taste if I think that Capital Offensive > LA Meltdown?

>> No.5814920

Use the penetrator on the flying guys, it shreds them instantly

>> No.5814929

Ah, like how some enemies in Duke are coded to die from explosions of any size?

>> No.5814948

I didn’t need to know that.

>> No.5814954

Gladiator skin for Ranger is pretty good.

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First episode of Blood was really good! It lived up to the hype. Out of all the boomer shooters I've played it has the best gamefeel and movement.

>> No.5814958

It's beautiful, and the level design has good flow. On the whole, it's pretty good.

...But it could have been so much better.

The enemy variety is lacking, and what variety there is doesn't really seem like it's used to its full potential.

Similarly, the weapon variety is lacking and there's a distinct lack of punch to the higher end weaponry. You'll be using revolver and shotgun/grenade launcher 99.9% of the time.

The crossbow feels absolutely pointless unless it's allowed to overcharge, and then it's a room-clearing superweapon. Which is... fine, I guess, but its sprite gives very little feedback as to the true nature of its charging mechanic.

The cluster puck is beastly but... why so incredibly rare?

Minigun feels underpowered, and the uzis were honestly better in early access when I didn't have to worry about burning myself with them. The fire doesn't even seem to be particularly effective against enemies anyway.

>Now the question is, will people map for it?

Not unless someone releases a build engine map editor that doesn't have a UI from 1996.

>> No.5814963

It sucks that Shelly becomes Punished Shelly after she gets her arm blown off.

>> No.5814964

rage ?
vidya ?
/v/ ?
/vr ?

>> No.5814976

Ion fury is fun, but it's way too easy on 'well done' difficulty.

Let's talk about people who plays FPS games with auto aim on. Learn to aim. You're an embarrassment to our hobby. Turn off mouse acceleration, okay? You can do it anon

>> No.5814984

So, its true that I don't need to put an entire copy of the Duke 3D folder into the DukeGDX directory to work on BuildGDX. Sorry if I asked this before, I forgot.

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>that crazy slow weapon sway compared to every other shooters
It's perfect, dunno why but it's just perfect for this game and there's just so little I dislike about all of it. Episode three was the only one that felt a bit dragging on but I liked the industrial aesthetic and it has one of my favorite levels in it.
Blood, Quake 1, and Doom and are all on the same level for me. Hexen is also up there but mainly because I loved the fighter and it was one of the first I played. I've not had anywhere near as much fun as the other 'boomer shooters', and I'm trying to realize why that is.

>> No.5814997

You do have to wonder whether they would have been better off just trashing the Bombshell IP altogether and coming up with something new, because it's not like there's a Bombshell fanbase like there is for Duke or Doomguy or Serious Sam.

Shelly as she is right now is just a soulless design-by-comittee mess of 'inoffensive non-objectifying female heroine', the result being 'slightly older Katniss with a louder mouth'.

It's a shame, because it's not a half bad game. Honestly a pretty good game and it'll probably fare well as a Zoomer's first retro fps. I even hope it does.

But 3D Realms/voidpoint are still a bunch of pussies for kowtowing to feminists who won't even play the game.

>> No.5815003

>3D Realms/voidpoint are still a bunch of pussies for kowtowing to feminists who won't even play the game.
Is this your stoic way of saying "they didn't give the woman a skimpy outfit so that upsets me"

>> No.5815004

>Let's talk about people who plays FPS games with auto aim on.

I was fucking staggered to see that autoaim was on by default.

Who the fuck wants autoaim on top of mouselook?

>> No.5815008
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>Let's talk about people who plays FPS games with auto aim on
I don't mind if people need training wheels or want to play how they want as long as they understand how important it could be to shoot specific areas of an enemy. I've generally seen autoaim just direct towards the center of an enemy when you could, say, shoot them in the face.
Also, how often is this actually applied to mouse and keyboard users? It's mainly a concern with gamepads and analog sticks, in which case I can't really blame them using auto aiming because aiming with a stick sucks ass - which I guess, technically, I COULD blame them for.

>> No.5815012

Shelly's fine, you're just projecting. Remember, people are people regardless of gender. It's personality that counts anon!

>> No.5815025

>Laputan machine

Okay Ion Fury, I chuckled a bit. I would give my left testicle for a deus ex game like this.

>> No.5815029

Was Duke taken off of GOG?

>> No.5815032
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>Is this your stoic way of saying "they didn't give the woman a skimpy outfit so that upsets me"

No, not at all.

But we all know why her design was changed in this specific way. There's no point pretending every alteration made to her wasn't done with the goal of bringing her in line with the social politics of today's mainstream media.

Pic related: This misshapen monstrosity of woman as drawn by someone with strictly amateur artistic ability is more entertaining and engaging than Shelly, and I thank GOD that Lt.Typhon is fully clothed.

>> No.5815041

>It's personality that counts anon!

Yeah, and she has zero beyond her one-liners. Duke's personality is evident in his clothing and his physique.

Shelly is dressed and built like a rank and file nobody in uniform.

>> No.5815042

>Duke wears a tank top so his one liners have personality
>Shelly wears a uniform so her one liners have no personality
Are you ACTUALLY retarded?

>> No.5815046

Yeah it a shit situation, dont worry mods maybe will come. And the game is so satisfying it's overriding the cultural faggotry.

>> No.5815057

>You're an embarrassment to our hobby.

Nobody cares

>> No.5815058
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During EA there was a thread on Steam forums where guy bitched about how Shelly's design from 90s was much better than current one. This one, seriously.

What alterations exactly? Modern media's pandering is disgusting, that's true, but I see nothing in Shelly's design that counts as that. It's at least more interesting than previous 'duke but female' iteration.

>> No.5815070

>This misshapen monstrosity of woman as drawn by someone with strictly amateur artistic ability is more entertaining and engaging than Shelly
She's actually meant to look masculine like that and jokes on you I would still hit it

>> No.5815071

The game is a prequel to Bombshell. The third-person shooter. It's not supposed to be based on the ancient DNF concept art. In fact Shelly in Ion Fury is actually MORE attractive / less "SJW"-looking than the Shelly in Bombshell.

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>> No.5815076

GmanLives comes off as a guy who cannot stand to think of anything critically and just makes videos where he can complain about when games pissed him off

>> No.5815079
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>SJW looking
How exactly?
I like Shelly design in Ion Fury more. Because it's more consistent but I don't see how the Bombshell one is "SJW".
The previous model for Bombshell(not the Duke one) was horrendous

>> No.5815086

Death by snu snu.

>> No.5815087

>complaining about how "SJW" the designs are

omg, this thread is pathetic, jesus christ

>> No.5815090

>Duke wears a tank top so his one liners have personality

Duke Nukem wears leather boots, blue denim jeans, a vest, shades and a jetpack. He's also 6'4" and built like Schwarznegger at his peak.

You know the fucking instant you look at him that he is an absolute badass full of steroids and 'murca. The second you hear John St. John's voice, you can hear it.

When you look at >>5815032 Typhon, you know she is a grizzled veteran MONSTER of a woman who is the sternest slab of beef on Phobos. Just like with duke, her voice backs it up, too. She sounds like she eats gravel and iron ore for breakfast.

Then you look at Shelly. Oh look, it's the sidekick form Dredd 3D, but with brown hair. She's a generic future cop and she has the voice of a lady who does radio commercials.

See https://3drealms.com/news/visual-history-bombshell/

There were many designs that weren't 'Duke nukem but female' that still looked striking.

The spirit of the original character was completely abandoned in 2003. And along came the tacticool garbage.

>> No.5815093

No need to yell anon. But what does it do?

>> No.5815096

>Shelly in Ion Fury is actually MORE attractive / less "SJW"-looking than the Shelly in Bombshell.

More conventionally attractive, but also, more boring.

I'd take the bombshell design over this.

>> No.5815097

Restores the original Quake viewmodels
Quakespasm has the viewmodels lowered slightly down for some reason and it looks weird

>> No.5815101

I actually didn't know that. Thanks anon, I'll change that next time I play quack

>> No.5815102
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The 2 genders: male and disabled

>> No.5815110

There are many borderline porno ones also, yeah. I like the Motoko-inspired one from 2003 though.

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I have to agree every single incarnation of Shelly has been kinda...bland
>blonde bimbo
>forgettable sidecut chick with robot arm
>the current one, inoffensive policewoman spouting vapid one liners

I mean the only line I remember her saying is "say my name" and it doesn't have any staying power, Shelly is incapable of stealing quotes the way Duke could.
So when you compare her to the other Build heroes:

>Steroid abusing machismo man who is an amalgamation of every action hero of his time.
>Walking asian stereotype who is also a dirty old man with a childish streak, occasionally lets his serious side slip
>Psychopath from the 1800s seeking revenge for his lost love, takes perverse pleasure in the suffering of his enemies

Her VA is just not up to the task sadly.

>> No.5815120

Shelly will be both soon.

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i hate doom 2016 doom 2 was a good game................

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I guess the fucking sexiness in heavy metal magazines was so much, it emptied this gen from making decent female characters that look good while kicking ass.

>> No.5815141

Of all 3 I loved how Caleb was the best mix of serious and outright fucking crazy.

I was not expecting the feels with that yell of despair when he finds ophelia.

>> No.5815142

Chex Quest is my favorite doom mod

>> No.5815146

I'll admit that her appearance is a bit bland. That menu screen is problematic. I like the voice actress though. Sure, she's somewhat of a budget Julie Strain, but Shelly is an above average badass

>> No.5815148

The funny thing is I think her current design is a lot sexier than the 90s one, but I really don't find the blonde bimbo look attractive.

>> No.5815149

I am having this issue as well and have triple Buffering on.

>> No.5815154

>Show yourself!

>> No.5815156
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Exactly this. There's nothing wrong with her design. The problem is the premise. Shelly is just a cocky policewoman.
Which pales in comparison to the Build trinity protagonists.
She's on the same level as Leonard from Redneck Rampage in terms of charisma, who's just.... a redneck.

Caleb, Duke and Wang have their lines as references but they're very distinct from each other in terms of personality and the VAs help to emphasize that.

>> No.5815158

Sad thread is sad

>> No.5815159

Really miss that kinda shit.

I wouldn't care that much about the hero character design for an FPS usually but in the case of Ion Fury the lack of creativity in Shelly's design actually show up in the game's weapons. They're as bland as she is

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Yeah we had it god damn it and we lost it all.

Most stories were shit sure, except moebius and some others, but the aesthetics were nailed.
Now we have the most tame and bland age possibly, I get a little sick each time I see a game with fortnite type shading,

>> No.5815170

I like Leonard though.
Shelly is okay, but I kinda agree that her voice actress lacks some power behind her words. At least in the one liners. Some of the level-to-level stuff is p good.

>> No.5815172

Some lines are really well delivered. Most feel fake.

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I'll say one thing: I am a degenerate through and though for any kind of 2D female, but 90% of "sexy action girl" designs just fall flat for me.
I like western art, I like anime tiddy, but most designs in both ends of the spectrum just rub me the wrong way, they look so fucking samey and I can't put my finger on exactly why that is.

I would welcome a protagonist like the one you posted merely to spite the pear clutching crowd, but eh I'm not feeling it.

>> No.5815179

Same, he gets enough characterization in just one game. He's an anti-hero, maybe even a villain but oozes charisma.
Also his voice is better than ASMR.

>> No.5815181 [DELETED] 

go gargle cum

>> No.5815187

Depends on the artist. I am not saying everybody taste is the same.
And I am not asking for complete utter bimbo like sometimes that particular epoch fell into.

But I am sure we could do better, we just dont want or even cant sometimes.

>> No.5815193


Anything. Somebody mod the main menu image, it looks so fucking shit.

>> No.5815194

blah blah cry more fgt

>> No.5815197

I think some indies are already doing that (Paratopic). Still we are very far of seeing a new real FPS in that style.

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Ion Fury is great, but the main character is kinda uninteresting and the arsenal could use a few more crazy BUILD-esque weapons.

>> No.5815220
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>playing Wolfenstein 3D with ecwolf
>the automap feature actually makes travelling the repetitive corridors enjoyable
>hitscan enemies are a little annoying but they are easy to kill anyway
>having fun
>reach this part:

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I think it's about one thing:context.
Let's take Hunter and Major from Quake 3.
A lot of women in that game are sexualized but others not because it's about on what the supposed to convey.

She's based on a character by Simon Bisley.
She's a tribal amazon warrior.More campy and over the top,this gives more freedom on sexualize her.
She's not meant to be taken seriously.

Basely a skin from Quake 2 multiplayer.
A cold-blooded soldier from a more serious game.
She's wearing an hi-tech outfit and not sexualized because it fits with her character.

>> No.5815226

>Anon asks about the design
>cry more faggot
How mature

>> No.5815240

Where do you think we are?

>> No.5815250 [DELETED] 

resetera cunt

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I would fuck klesk no problem

>> No.5815258

> In fact Shelly in Ion Fury is actually MORE attractive / less "SJW"-looking than the Shelly in Bombshell.
nice try, resetera pedo tranny cunt

>> No.5815260

>The first concepts of Shelly were drawn in 1997, and had a heavy emphasis on sexualization, which was not uncomon the mid-nineties, although a bit embarrasing looking back with 2018 glasses
Pretty fuckin gay stance they have there.
Oversexualization needs to make a return in style. You can have someone be a badass, sexy, and fun, and keep an interesting story.

>> No.5815261

Anon why do you have this bogeyman in your head and what did they do to hurt you

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>> No.5815267

based anon

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For me the Panosian designs look great, and he's a great artist, pic related is almost godlike and has as much character as the other Build protagonists.
I'd put them from best to worst as:
>1998 — Panosian
>1999-2001 — Richards
>2003 — Feng Zhu
>2018 — Current
>1997 — Chick Nukem
>2015 — lol

>> No.5815275 [DELETED] 

triggered resetera pedo tranny cunts
seethe, cope and dilate

>> No.5815276

>Metal boob-plates
>Exposed midriff
>Exposed thighs

Lady no wonder you have scratches on there, your armor is missing key weakpoints

>> No.5815278

I forgot to put 2000's colored Richards design between 2018 and 1997

>> No.5815282

Anon I really have no idea what you're talking about, are you even speaking english at this point

>> No.5815286

Man, having a whip would have been cool as hell

>> No.5815290

This armor looks like a parody of what someone would find sexy. But to each their own I guess.

>> No.5815293

do you mean ep 2 in general or a specific part in it?

>> No.5815298

I know this supposed to be fantasy but that looks impractical as hell.

>> No.5815304

I know right
Like why even put a suit of metal armor on if you're just going to have a fully exposed center mass and partially exposed chest
At that point you might as well just wear light armor so you can move faster, or fuck it just go naked into the battefield if nerds get off to that

If you're going to put on heavy ass metal armor you at least want to make sure you're covered, otherwise why even bother with the extra weight

>> No.5815306

My god, you autistic buzzkills

>> No.5815315

I turned V-sync off and that boosted the framerate a lot. For some reason it still runs choppy as hell though

>> No.5815316

Man I remember the controversy when Heavy Metal got adapted to that sort of weird game.

>> No.5815318

HM:FAKK2 was a great game and a Q3 engine showcase

>> No.5815323

My god,you impractical nonsensical armor design wanker

>> No.5815327 [DELETED] 

autistic resetera tranny propagandist

>> No.5815330

Focking autist, you fit well into the sterile 21st century

>> No.5815331

If you're going to do sexy, do sexy. If you're going to do armor, do armor. Sexy armor is fucking impossible, because it's going to be clunky ass metal lingerie that offers no protection whatsoever.

Fuck off

>> No.5815335 [DELETED] 

No, fuck you and your bullshit you cunt.

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>> No.5815339

>If you're going to do sexy, do sexy. If you're going to do armor, do armor.
Don't tell me what to do.

>> No.5815340

You kiddies just don't get it. :^)

>> No.5815341

There was Doom here, it's gone now.

>> No.5815347 [DELETED] 

No need to get violent you tranny

>> No.5815348 [DELETED] 

no u resetera tranny cunt

>> No.5815350

>Don't tell me what to do

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And here lies the problem. It's all or nothing attitude. No fun allowed.
I am surprised nobody said the usual "have sex".

Japan will continue to one up the west with crap like nier automata.

>> No.5815358 [DELETED] 

tranny cunt got triggered
get the fuck out

>> No.5815361

This is not armor. It is not meant to protect you from physical harm. The design of the robots is purely for aesthetics. Therefore I don't give a fuck, give your robots triangle titties if you like. But if you're going to wear heavy armor, then make sure it fucking protects you otherwise why bother just go naked lmao

>> No.5815362
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I still have it installed. Crappy game, but decent for its time in Q3 engine.

>> No.5815364

Yeah, no fun allowed apparently. This generation is fucking DEAD inside.

>> No.5815370

>This generation is fucking DEAD inside
Holy shit dude you're not even out of your 30's and you already sound like you belong in a nursing home. And all this because someone said boob plates in armor are silly.

>> No.5815372

we need to trigger them so badly that they will keep those shooting sprees up

>> No.5815373

Fuck you.

>> No.5815376

underage should kys themselves

>> No.5815378

I'm gen-x, little sperg.

>> No.5815379

That's even sadder.

>> No.5815380 [DELETED] 

have sex

>> No.5815381
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>> No.5815382

y-you too

>> No.5815383


I'm playing Ion Fury, at a part where you're in a GDF courtyard or whatever and a million enemies keep coming at you from all sides. I've beaten it 3 times, as pain in the ass as it is, and each time the game immediately closes itself. Anyone else having crashes? No error or anything, it just closes

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And it's not as if I dont want games with realistic female characters in decent armor or wtv the fuck leather jacket cool stronk grills mainstream wants.

But we were talking about a fucking duke nukem game with a female protag, even if you dont care about sexiness you should make her look good and accentuate her female side, or at least go full tombyish.

Just have the balls to do SOMETHING instead of this purgatory of blandness. Because muh respect.

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>> No.5815392


Go sit on a cactus

>> No.5815394

Well, that explains that. I guess you're not that far off from the nursing home after all.

>> No.5815395

Bulletstorm shenanigans would be impossible in build engine but just imagine.

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>> No.5815398

>realistic female characters
Walk head first into a table saw and fuck yourself with a 30 in dildo while you're at it.

>> No.5815401


>> No.5815403

Just a non-standard melee weapon with an extended reach and some other quirks woulda been fucking neat. I love shit like that in vidya.

The painkiller from painkiller is a good example of a melee weapon that just goes off the walls

>> No.5815405

you have already one and only one inside in your rectum
so i'm left alone :(

>> No.5815409

fuck off autist

>> No.5815413

Yeah realistic if it makes sense. Go take your meds.


I dont know why they didn't put a kick button at least, switching to the baton just to take out trash cans is a bore.

>> No.5815420

God damn it, 4 fucking times now. It's annoying enough to play, now every time I get to the end the game crashes and I have to redo it

>> No.5815423

Jesus, what an insufferable faggot.

>> No.5815425

I go for half an hour to play some TEEF and you boyos have to make a scene


>> No.5815431

I'm convinced it's the same person that does the anti HL posting, they just want attention

>> No.5815434

Have you played Gunman Chronicles?
It's quite fun.
And there is a xash version around.

>> No.5815438

Or at least a quick baton swipe. That's always neat, and it'd still give a player a reason to switch to the baton seeing as you'd still need it for combos or that sustained shock thing

>> No.5815441

I wanted to wait for Locked and reloaded to finish but it'll probably never happen

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yeah I've gotten that impression too
as soon as we started making fun of him with alf he changed his gimmick again

>> No.5815454

Holy shit this is good art.

>> No.5815461

>And there is a xash version around.
There is, but it's hacky and doesn't work right.

>> No.5815463

What do you mean? I finished it like last year, almost no problems.

>> No.5815469
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Can I just say thanks to whoever makes these threads with OP details?

I find some cool maps and stuff to play cus of the links. Appreciate it my dude

>> No.5815474

gives me some frazzeta vibes
good shit

>> No.5815482

Simon Bisley. Absolutely massive artist in the 90's for comics. So popular he basically created the "Bisley-esque" style of painted on canvas comic art that dozens of artists imitated in comics throughout the 90's.

>> No.5815483

Quake 2 OST is pretty darn good. I use it to do exercise

>> No.5815485
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Please assist, /doom/guys

Loki's Heretic 2 Linux CDROM. Where can I get it? I tried the Loki entertainment website where they host products/heretic2 and made an ISO out of that folder. I don't think that is it though...

>> No.5815490

The expansions are better than the base game

>> No.5815496

Reminds me of those spanish and italian dudes from the late 80's and 90s.

>> No.5815501
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>See old patch notes for QC
> "Air Acceleration / Strafing Updates Strafing will now feel like previous Quake titles."

Just checked it out after not playing the PTS in a while and I gotta say, Anarki and Sorlag (along with everyone else) feel so much better to control somehow. Also, Strogg has Q4-style crouchsliding now which is neat, although compared to Slash's it feels a little off somehow. Probably cus I haven't played Quake 4 in a while.

>> No.5815506

I'm sad that the MC won't be able to avenge his waifu anymore since it got cancelled .
It was a good manhwa tho

>> No.5815510

Civvie has a point I actually got a lot of Sin vibes from Ion Fury.
A bit of a forgotten game, jank as fuck but had really cool level design for the time and engine.

And that low poly model of Sinclair, oof.

>> No.5815513

Man, I'd really love to see SlaveZero using modern tech

>> No.5815537

7243 is another.

>> No.5815584

I'd like to see Machine Games to something with it, so long as they don't turn into the real problems that affected their Wolfenstein games. Which was too many cutscenes, and in the case of TNC, bad level design.

>> No.5815596

I like to use Descent into Cerberon for some Quake maps that don't have any music on them. Usually techbase maps.

For the more eldritch and cosmic maps without music I go with
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGhRL-R-TSc

>> No.5815597

>Might as well go the Dante Must Die route and make it so that everyone dies in one hit.
That's Heaven or Hell mode.

>> No.5815602

Oh. You know, I might have actually played that on my phone now that I think about it.
So it's janky for the phone version of Xash.

>> No.5815603

Ranger has a lot of potential as a character from what’s given in QC. He used to play football in college, served in the Vietnam War, has a wife, daughter, and son, desperately wants to be reunited with them, and he clings to the memories of them and his past life, while also losing said memories, to the point he can’t remember the names of kids. I’d like to see more of that, but not by MachineGames, because I know they’d fuck it all up.

>> No.5815619

> play football in college
Not just any college, he played for good ol' Miskatonic! The guy was doomed to face the nameless creatures beyond the rim of known space.

>> No.5815647

Yeah, he’s fucked.

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Just beat Marathon. Pretty good game but why are the alien levels so much better than the early human levels.

>> No.5815664
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Just really got into Doom. Have dabbled since it came out. I just discovered Doomsday Engine. I got some wads, but alot dont work. Anything I can just dl that will work in it vanilla? thx

>> No.5815678

download gzdoom, doomsday is ancient and shitty

>> No.5815683

Not that it matters or I care but I think playing as a very ditzy stacy could have been pretty funny

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Tried buying Duek from gog. Not on gog. tried downloading duek from tpb. not rhere either wher i download?

>> No.5815696

guess you'll never know

>> No.5815705

thank you

>> No.5815720
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Just started playing Arcane Dimensions for the first time and I'm loving it so far. It looks and plays great.

>> No.5815758

When an esl immigrant asks for help while frogposting, you know shit is desperate in bean land. Us Ameribros don't like frogposting, try again without the frog.

>> No.5815771

cool that you replied to the op but did not read it in the slightest.

>> No.5815804

I tried to like Shelly but she's just so aggressively mediocre. I can't think of any lines that stand out, she just rips off other, more charismatic heroes. Fuck, even Leonard and Bubba have loads more personality than her.

I think her character design is totally fine. It makes sense, she's a cop, whatever, her tits don't have to be out to look sexy. But her character just stinks.

Maybe if she was more of a no-bullshit hardass like Judge Dredd or Ripley from Aliens, she'd fit in better and stand out more. But as it is, she's just bland.

>> No.5815813

I'm just grateful they didn't make her some hard copy of the DURR POWER GURLLL motif. I would've thought it a bit shit had they settled with that approach.

>> No.5815819

I think it was said Matt Saettler or Nick Newhard had a copy they found in storage but couldn't release because legal shit

>> No.5815821
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for real. this is like day and night. This shit works like a charm. I just need to fuck with some controls or whatever. but fuck year

>> No.5815825

sorry familia.

>> No.5815843

>Maybe if she was more of a no-bullshit hardass like Judge Dredd or Ripley from Aliens, she'd fit in better and stand out more
I agree actually. She needed to be more aggressive.

>> No.5815847

I can't be the one who has nutted to Daisy

>> No.5815856

Odds of Ion Fury getting support in BuildGDX?

>> No.5815904

I doubt he'll spend time on it when he has other old Build games to implement there. Can't wait for a Powerslave support

>> No.5815907

ion maiden runs on the eduke32 engine
eduke32 is open source
there is literally no reason for buildgdx to build eduke32 into it

>> No.5815908

I'm just pissed that it (apparently?) doesn't run on anything other than Windows 10. That's some bullshit. Especially since all the other system requirements are pretty low.

>> No.5815910

It runs only on x64 systems, not Win10 specifically as I recall.

>> No.5815912

Why the fuck doesn't Ion Fury run on Windows 7?

>> No.5815914

Really? The Steam page lists the OS as Windows 10.

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>> No.5815916

That's weird. I'm looking at it right now and it only says Windows 10. I guess I'll have to try it now.

>> No.5815924

I have windows 7 and it runs fine for me.

>> No.5815930

I've burned myself out on DOOM at the moment so I feel like playing some other classic FPS. I'm thinking of playing Heretic, Hexen, and Strife, but I don't know how their difficulty is. I know DOOM is meant to be played on UV and I can handle that fine, but what difficulty are these three games built around for a first-time playthrough?

>> No.5815936

Kinda unrelated to the question, but maybe try to go into something completely different, like Build games\Quake or even Wolf? Because, at their core, Heretic, Hexen and Strife are still Doom.

>> No.5815938

Max Difficulty on Heretic and Hexen don’t have respawning enemies, just faster enemies, and more ammo. Strife only has a few enemies that can respawn on Bloodbath.

>> No.5815940

Heretic and Hexen have a similar difficulty to Doom, UV is fine.
Strife I found frustrating on hard due to the very high amount of hitscanners.

>> No.5815941

Wolf3D needs more attention. It’s not as good as the other FPS, but it’s still a good and classic game. Some of the mods are pretty good, and it also gave us Rise of the Triad on the same engine.

>> No.5815956

strife's nightmare difficulty is broken on (g)zdoom, so don't bother
in vanilla, enemies respawn and go through their attack frames faster
in zdoom, they do that and also attack as often as possible, making it impossible to even leave the first room

>> No.5815958

Sounds good, then. I'll go with their UV equivalents.
Another question, are the levels in these three games designed around pistol start, or should I carry things level-to-level?
I plan on using Chocolate Heretic/Hexen/Strife.

>> No.5815960

I'm stuck on the Archive maze. Fuck this is the first really hard level for me.

>> No.5815962

***Archvile maze

>> No.5815964

UV first, but try the Nightmare! equivalent too.

>> No.5815968

Quake 1.5 looks very cool, haven't tried it yet though.


>> No.5815970

in hexen youll find its not even possible, cause you need various keys and items to carry between levels, and you can only find weapons once or twice each

>> No.5815979

Plutonia MAP11? You can get through it without too much difficulty by just noting what linedefs trigger the doors to open, and taking care of archviles one at a time. At the end, take the door on the ____

>> No.5816002

heretic can be wand started, but in episodes 4 and 5 you'll feel some pain
hexen was not meant for fresh-starting, and strife doesn't even support the concept

>> No.5816019

alright, /vr/oom, mind helping me find a wad from some time ago?
it was a 3rd person wad where you played as some dude in a long black coat with a gas mask, sort of like hunk from resident evil
you could do different shit like slide and spin around in the air
i remember playing it years ago but can't remember the name
anyone mind helping me out?

>> No.5816021

>hunk from resident evil
Literally Resident Evil: Codename Hunk

>> No.5816026

Codename: HUNK

>> No.5816027
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did I do something wrong or is the mouse in prboom+ skipping frames and really hard to aim with by default

on win10

>> No.5816029

Might be the problem with SDL mouse in Win 10.

>> No.5816031
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Are there any other worthwhile addons for Hideous Destructor aside from Ugly as Sin?

>> No.5816034

i know the guy looks like hunk, but the rest of my post says otherwise
the camera was actually in third person, zdoom's janky camera and everything
codename hunk's way of working around this was making a weapon with all the different sprites of hunk performing actions while keeping the actual camera first person and removing movebob to give the illusion

>> No.5816048

black warrior?

>> No.5816052

oh! uh
any way to change that then?

>> No.5816058

No idea, I've been struggling with mouse in many old shooters since Creators update. It either gets stuck or skips frames all the time. I'm considering using Virtual Machine.
Try updating Prboom, maybe they updated SDL in it.

>> No.5816073
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Just played half an hour of Ion Fury, I think it's pretty good.

The lighting design really stands out to me, plus it has a number of cool stair designs.

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Your mileage may vary. There's a fuckton of sidemods in the Hideous Destructor discord. I don't really use many though, aside from Insurgency SFX, the suppressed SMG sprite to go with it, and the one that changes the Taunt noise to a whistle

This is my typical load order with HD
gzdoom -iwad doom_complete.pk3 -file att_lights.zip brightmaps.pk3 fancyworld_v2.pk3 spriteshadow185.pk3 footsteps.pk3 hideous_destructor hd_insurgencysfx.pk3 hd_suppressedsmg whistler.pk3 hd_title darkdoomz autoautosave121.pk3 levelinfo.pk3 droplets

>> No.5816082

Also I only use the flashlight bit of darkdoomz, I turn the actual darkness stuff off because I don't care for it at all. Game is plenty dark enough for me with Vanilla sector lighting

>> No.5816107

I'll go with a carry-through playthrough for each, then.
The weapons in Heretic feel a bit weird starting out. The crossbow feels underpowered for a shotgun equivalent. I've been hesitant to use the Tome of Power (though I did try it out) because I haven't gauged enemy threat levels yet and don't know how often these appear. It's been fine difficulty-wise of course since it's the beginning of the game.

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>look up info on the crossbow
>damage range anywhere from 14 to 112 damage
Christ what the fuck, that is extremely unreliable, it's like the player is using a revenant fireball.

>> No.5816147

The art design in it is just fantastic. Literally milking that source ported Build engine for all it's worth.
Wish the enemies were a little more interesting though. Shelly too, she's just "lady cop with a bad mouth and one liners."

>> No.5816167

yeah, when gearbox gained the duke license

>> No.5816170

You would never say this about a male character. Look at Duke.

>> No.5816176

Duke has balls of steel.

>> No.5816191

Shelly was very obviously written as a male character then gender swapped to avoid a lawsuit from Randy Bitchford, not a problem.
The problem is she's fucking boring and soulless.

>> No.5816198

Can you say anything else?

>> No.5816201

Shelly supposed to be the same character from Bombshell.
Then again, she's too different from Duke.
I still think there's still potential to make her more memorable.
First of all the Voice Actress.
It doesn't feel like she's putting all that much effort in those lines. It's almost like she's bored.

>> No.5816206

Shelly’s concept has existed since DNF. Please take yourself and your buzzword back to /v/.

>> No.5816209

Alright fellas, so I'm trying to get my friends into Doom (and classic FPSs in general) and they're looking for something Co-Op to play.
Other than Scythe, what WADS would you recommend?

>> No.5816223

>Ion Fury on Wanton is too easy
>Ion Fury on UV requires a slow, fairly tedious approach to clearing rooms
I wish there was a difficulty between these two.

>> No.5816226

>>Ion Fury on UV requires a slow, fairly tedious approach to clearing rooms
As paradoxical as it sounds, turn off autoaim if you havent already. It makes aiming the shotgun much easier when you have a consistent idea of how your shots hit, letting you zoom around with it for headtaps.
The pistol is your best friend when clearing hallways, flick and right click over all goons and skull-trites.
The grenade launcher and bowling-bombs are godsends. Use them like you would dynamite in Blood.
The penetrator is a great panic weapon. Use the single one when you're surrounded by mooks, use the doubles when you need to dome a tankier enemy.
It's certainly not Doom levels of fast, but using these tactics I didn't have much issues keeping a good pace.

>> No.5816228

What are you doing sounds great! Don't give up, man, procedural has its fans (when it's done fine), just take care of your health and fine some balance for your own good . Procedural stuff could be amazing when polished, Me and my buddies love doing survival co-op rounds on oblige/obaddon megawads at our private Zandronum server. We love the quirkiness and weirdness of them maps besides knowing they are uncharted territory, even the usual wacky impracticality of them has its own charm, feels like something out of the Blame! anime/manga, so schizoid. I guess we're weird, been into rogue-likes since always, azure dreams, nethack, etc... They prefer that over maps of chaos or else. Certain Oblige with obaddon settings feels lots like the Warframe procedural maps, we pair that with a good monster mod like xvme or dmgmod, textures, and a gameplay mod like dakka or PB. Sadly Zandronum is dying slowly, and not supporting the newer mods out there.

>> No.5816235
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>See anons talking about women in videogames designs
>They bring Heavy Metal to the discussion
>Artists like Simon Bisley were an inspiration for Hunter from Quake 3
>I remember that Hunter is not in Quake Champions

That just blows my mind, why the hell they did not include a fan favourite in the roster?
Come to think of it how did they get away with that design in Quake 3,which one may argue is a rip off?
The idea that there's an higher chance to get sued for making a reference to a musical band which named itself after an old ass torture device

>> No.5816236

Duke is just an action hero with a bad mouth and one liners
Caleb is just a vengeful edgelord with one liners, and a jolly evil laugh
Wang is just an asian stereotype with a bad mouth and one liners

>> No.5816237

Try looking into ObHack (a fork of OBLIGE Doom level generator) and its prefabs. It is the best procedural level generator to date.

>> No.5816242

ok yeah this is absolutely and unabashedly just a Blood spinoff
the plot and theme are a bit different and the names are changed
but the beats are all the same
and you can't really mistake the combination of sawed-off + tommygun + dynamite for anything else
its like if Blood leaned more on the weird western rather than slasher film aesthetic

>> No.5816245

I turned off autoaim the moment I launched the game for the first time.
I haven't played a Build game since Duke 3D so maybe I just need to get used to it. I've been using the revolver's right click a lot and it gets me out of trouble but it generally feels like cheating to be honest.

>> No.5816246

I've noticed this thread has a lot of responses doing the lazy old "copy, paste and change a bit of the post to suit my argument in a lame attempt to prove a point" thing.
Is this the work of one person? Because it feels like it.

>> No.5816253

Man, If you ever want some multiplayer action, look for doomseeker. Lots peeps in it.

>> No.5816261

Co-Op? Maps of chaos.

>> No.5816275

>LG width HALVED

Does this mean I'll have to actually aim with the thing? Noooooo

>Fixed center hitboxes for every character
Does that mean when we shoot someone point blank with the SSG it'll actually fucking hit them instead of magically missing?

>> No.5816278

>doing the lazy old "copy, paste and change a bit of the post to suit my argument in a lame attempt to prove a point" thing
That's one of the common things to do on the imageboards.

>> No.5816293

Could it be that they're all just simple archetypes that spout one-liners and popculture references when you look at them in a reductive manner? Could it be that Shelly isn't all that different from the trio of Build protagonists, the main difference being that Ion Fury hasn't had 2 decades to cement itself into memory? Could it be that I'm just wasting time shitposting instead of playing fun shooters?

>> No.5816295

Maps of Chaos is pretty good.

>> No.5816297
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Imagine going to all that work to appease SJW's and they still find something to come after you for:


>> No.5816301
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>> No.5816303

Voxels. What a about it?

>> No.5816305
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Well because I want to make sure I get a head start on this right now IT'S SCREENSHOT SATURDAY MOTHERFUCKERS.

>> No.5816315

>That just blows my mind, why the hell they did not include a fan favourite in the roster?

Because western studios have been getting increasingly scared of feminist backlash for the last 10 years now.

>> No.5816321

"feminist backlash" is only effective if you listen to them and deliberately do damage to yourself, because nobody else does.
They can scream all they want, they aren't the ones who buy the games, they are not the audience, they are nobodies and no sane people take them seriously.
The only way they can do damage is if you decide to give in.

>> No.5816331

I'm gonna say it.

>> No.5816334 [DELETED] 
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I suddenly never want to play Quake again.

>> No.5816336

What a bigot.

>> No.5816337
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Go kill yourself.

>> No.5816353

>"Femme fatale looks"

I don't think I've ever seen a LESS femme fatale look in all honesty.

>> No.5816357

So, apart from the IF discussion, how is HUH going? Any major changes for the final release?
I already played through it and gave my review, but I would of course like to have the final FINAL version.
Also see other reviews.

>> No.5816359

>The only way they can do damage is if you decide to give in.

Correct. And for some reason, the entirety of the west's media industries has given in.

>> No.5816363

Is NeoGaf scum still around? Fucking God, why don't they just hang themselves already?

>> No.5816369

Resetera is where all Neogaf trannies went after it turned out one of their mods was, surprise surprise, a kiddy fiddler.

>> No.5816383

I'm waiting for a couple of mappers to get back to me regarding parameters so I can recompile them correctly, but besides that all other changes are rather minor.

>> No.5816392
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Slowly but surely.

>> No.5816405
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At least there's the Palmela Handerson design.

>> No.5816426

I can't seem to get Ion Fury to run smooth at all. It's jittery as fuck

>> No.5816430

Welcome to the club. They can't fix the number one concern for whatever reason.

>> No.5816431

Fuck Pain Elementals.

Someone who's playing Doom 2 for the first time

>> No.5816435

Anon, does Duke wear bits of heavy metal medieval armor? A sexy metal cod piece, and naked everywhere else?
No, he basically only wears a shirt, so he clearly doesn't care about armor.

>> No.5816436

Hug then and they're completely harmless. Stand in them when they blow up and all of their kids die.

>> No.5816440

Disable V-sync in both game and drivers
Set FPS cap to your refresh rate +1, or double that +1.
That fixed stutters for me.

>> No.5816441

Yeah as soon as I turn the camera to a large open area the FPS plummets

>> No.5816445

Less jittery, not completely gone, plus tearing.

>> No.5816452

Dude I've played it on PC from 2009 (GT230, Core2Duo 2.2 Ghz) just fine, 60-70 fps, no stutter (played at workplace)
What kind of potato do you have?

>> No.5816459

It's got nothing to with having a potato or not. There are people with i7's and 1080Ti's getting framerate drops.

It's most likely a compatibility issue.

>> No.5816461

Win7 or win10?
Win10 is all kinds of fucked with old engines, and it got even more fucked with recent updates (creators)

>> No.5816473

Fucking based Ion devs

>> No.5816476
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What is this reference to? Carmageddon?

>> No.5816478

How do you set the FPS +1 when it's a set 30/60/120 etc in options?

Edit the config file?

>> No.5816483

>Shelly supposed to be the same character from Bombshell.
so gender swapped duke
big muscles => big tits
machismo => machismo but with more sexual innuendo

>> No.5816484

God damn, the super charged Ion Bow just fucking tears through bosses and my framerate

>> No.5816486

yeah that's Max's Eagle from Carma 1

>> No.5816487

There's an offset option right under.

>> No.5816489

meant to reply

>It doesn't feel like she's putting all that much effort in those lines. It's almost like she's bored.
Can't well do a Clint Eastwood impression can she. More energetic delivery would've been nice, but she wants to be heard clearly rather than overly dramatically

>> No.5816493

Shelly's VA has done her job, cleanly, professionally, is what I'm saying. She just wasn't having fun the way Stephan Weyte or John St. John had with their parts.

>> No.5816496

To be honest Stephan Weyte is on a class of his own
Even John St. John pales a bit in comparison

>> No.5816504
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of course you are not the only one
Iv'e seen this artist get posted on /co/ and /v/ and I'm usually happy to let anons complete their set if the original poster doesn't do it

speaking of completing the set does anyone have the version with fixed grammar?

>> No.5816505

>make a non sexualised main character to appeal to the perpetually offended leftist crowd
>1 (ONE) day after release they brand you transphobic and bigots and call for boycots and refunding the game


>> No.5816509

I guess all Ion Fury threads on /v/ are now purge on sight.

>> No.5816521

John J. Dick DLC when

you never respond to those people, never apologize, never acknowledge their existence and definitely never count on them for sales
some day the will learn, some day

why what's happening? dilate cumbrain have sex posting? nigger nigger tranny tranny tranny resetERA?
well, that's the board in a nutshell

>> No.5816529
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I thought the quake community would be free of this gay shit.

>> No.5816531

You already posted this you fag

>> No.5816535

The entire culture, but the problem is not feminists. Or as simple.

You follow the gunpowder and you realize it is to protect the all mighty corp.

>> No.5816541

I'm countering censorship, people who play quake should know one of the bigger creators today is like this.

>> No.5816542


Futa is gross but this is correct.

>> No.5816545

tl;dr: Quake is for fags

>> No.5816547

Go cry about it on twitter like you fucks like to do

>> No.5816548

but can he 1v1 me in CPM so I can show him the error of his ways

>> No.5816550

I'll bring it to the people who actually play these things. These people hate you.

Unfortunately. It used to be free of this shit.

>> No.5816552
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I wonder who could be behind these posts

>> No.5816554

I just finished Heskel's House of Horrors. Am I close to the end?

>> No.5816572


naku naru 1.0


>> No.5816579
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So I'm playing The Master Levels for Doom 2 for the first time and holy fuck, I'm sorry dude but fuck Chris Klie. His maps are such utter garbage. They're not fun, they're not challenging, they're extremely annoying. Subspace? The Combine? HORRIBLE MAPS.

I don't even remember the last time I had this much of a visceral reaction to bad mapping. Am I exaggerating or do you guys get the urge to hurl when playing those too?

>> No.5816587
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Prototype Unreal HUD. 'cuz why not. I had to invent a bunch of extra icons for it tho.

>> No.5816590
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Wait wrong screenshot, that's the normal hud.

>> No.5816592

Same thing on Win7

>> No.5816593

>fishing for a handful of worthless likes
why are tranny apologists so pathetic

>> No.5816603
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Remember that Alf episode where he just bashed some game from future over and over and over? I like how they had a mental illness PSA at the end.

>> No.5816606

*teleports behind you*

>> No.5816614

alf was ahead of its time

>> No.5816620

I dont think most people problems is Vsync. You can let it on and just force triple buffering.
What solved my issues was precisely that.

The rest of the weird fps is probably textures streaming, and I am not using a ssd right now.

>> No.5816629

Wonder what mods will come out of Ion Fury.

>> No.5816630

It didn't feel that unreliable last time I played Heretic. It's best up close and felt like it packed a fairly decent punch against most of the common enemy types.

>> No.5816632

You never played it? You should it's really fucking fun.

>> No.5816635


That's a pretty neat design.

>> No.5816636

>texture streaming issues
>game has roughly 100MB of total art assets


>> No.5816639

I played maybe something like 20 years ago. Not really that memorable.

>> No.5816642


>> No.5816647

eDuke32 does not stream textures.
If it really nags on your mind set precaching on with console commands.
Or just try fiddling with console commands in general.

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>> No.5816665

Why stream them when you can keep everything in memory? Tiny game.

>> No.5816668

It doesn't.

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No voice clip. Missed opportunity.

>> No.5816692

The bad guys run around more and faster. Also there are more of them

>> No.5816696

i thought the mod was more about the author's fetishes instead
why does everything has to be political, when the word politics relates to policy, suggesting the main point being something law related not "us vs them"?

>> No.5816705

You think Fury will get mods?

>> No.5816707

Does his video spoil the game in any meaningful way?

>> No.5816716

He puts a spoiler warning before he gets into them about halfway through, so just stop watching at that point. Everything before that is fine to watch if you don't want spoilers.

>> No.5816718

Ok, Civvie.

>> No.5816740

give them a nice kiss and all their retard babies are instantly aborted

>> No.5816742

I think a few might do some maps for the novelty of it, but Build games were never really big with mappers.

>> No.5816746

boooooooorn to beeeeee completely mediocre

>> No.5816753


>> No.5816757

there is some lore reasoning for 2b's design, but most people can't understand anything deeper than a mcu movie
why else do you think people complain about dmc5 being "cringy anime shit"?
how dare japanese devs make more complicated stuff for my disney consumer brain?

>> No.5816768

I think you missed the point
I don't care if 2B's panties are bulletproof or whatever, that's fine, you can have that. I don't care if her robot skin is fire resistant, sure. But if you have a human character that's going to wear heavy medieval metal armor then at the very fucking least don't tear off parts that protect their human vital organs. Like >>5815138

>> No.5816780

I always thought the P'fhor or whatever they're called had cool looking bases.
Reminds me of Doom 1/2's Hell levels being an abstract mess that humans cannot understand.

>> No.5816787

This guy has been uploading videos that show all Ion Fury secrets if someone is lazy and wants to get spoiled.


>> No.5816789

It's not Daisy, but a fake version of her.
That's like saying you nutted to Bowser because of Bowsette.
Considering how most popular mods have OC's, you might as well made one with this and go that route.

>> No.5816793

That's a neat thing to have, but I'd rather find them on my own and have the satisfaction for it.

>> No.5816805

There is a limited amount of satisfaction to be achieved from spending hours on smashing the 'E' key on random walls at every level.

>> No.5816807

memento mori series?

>> No.5816809

I guess, many of them involve exploring instead of wall humping though. Its not like Doom or Wolfenstien.

>> No.5816814

My FPS counter doesn't dip with vsync on, but it does feel much more rough. Same with the FPS offset. Triple buffering helped a ton, now I only get drops when I'm looking at a clusterpuck go off.

>> No.5816858

Style can stomp realism or believability if it's made well. It's a fucking entertaiment. Dante or Bayo also does not make sense. Where the fuck do the bullets come?
If it's trying to be more believable fine, Witcher achieves a nice compromise. And I never even played the games.
Is that so hard to understand? A greater than life game, If I want to play with a ripped Conan like clone where his armor is the fucking muscles it's also fine.

>> No.5816862

Again anon, you're not getting the point. I don't care if the character is wearing just a coat or a dress and being a stylish badass, that's A-Okay. I don't care if Conan is kicking ass naked and absorbing nuclear weapons with his pectoral muscles. Fine.

If you're going to give a human character heavy metal armor, make sure it covers them well. If you're going with the style asspull, then make them wear stylish clothes and don't make any pretense of them needing a metal bikini. Just give them a bikini.

>> No.5816869

That is what I mean.
What if the metal bikini or scale bikini is a style choice? Scale armour bikini with some details looks more interesting than just a bikini.

>> No.5816871 [SPOILER] 
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what if you give them heavy metal armor
and a bikini underneath

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>What if the metal bikini or scale bikini is a style choice?
Then it's a dumb style choice and it will never not look silly
Boob plates? Seriously? Why bother?

>> No.5816882

"This is K-T-I-T! K-TIT! Playing the breast, er, the best tunes in town!"

>> No.5816886

It's dumb for you. Dont worry you will get it one day.

>> No.5816889

>Boob plates? Seriously? Why bother?
to make gropers feel uncomfortable when they touch hard, cold metal

I cracked the code

>> No.5816892 [DELETED] 

Have sex.

>> No.5816895

Daily reminder that Duke Nukem wears no armor.

>> No.5816902

Holy shit dude read this >>5816862
I don't care that DOOK wears no armor. Cool. I don't care that Bayonetta wears no armor. Cool. They wear no protection at all and their design is purely stylish and that's fine.

But if you're going to give me concept art for a human medieval warrior going into battle and their heavy-ass metal armor only covers their nipples and their crotch, I'm going to think you're an idiot

>> No.5816904

It's funny this comic actually represents on the second panel more a guy with is ego ups his ass, instead of a girl which would actually choose a sexy girl to play with.
You know who objectifies women even more than men? Other women.

>> No.5816908

You are just dumb. What if bayoneta was set in medieval times instead of modern?
She would shoot crossbow bolts from her high heels and probably have some sort of skimpy armour with her hair as well.
Its a style choice fag. Of course I dont want bikini armour in my mountain blade game.

>> No.5816912

You do realize Bayonetta's suit is literally just her hair right. Metal bikinis would have no part in this equation. It's just hair.

>> No.5816915

are you two gonna make out or what

>> No.5816919

Yes I do know. You are just being dense.

Then think of Jeanne.

>> No.5816924

A latexy suit would probably be translated to a leathery suit for a medieval time period, not a metal bikini. I don't see what's so difficult to grasp about metal bikinis being silly. Just give them a bikini. Embellish it all you want. Just don't make it a heavy-ass impractical piece of equipment that serves no purpose. If a character is going to wear something solely for the cool/style factor, it should at least not look like they're dragging tons of weight all the time for no reason

>> No.5816928

is the 3rd panel how trannies see themselves

>> No.5816930 [DELETED] 

calm down love and go dilate

>> No.5816934

There no weight anon. Its all a fantasy. But at least you admitted she would wear bikini leather armor. Don't worry with in time the ego will shrink. it does that.

>> No.5816935

>If a character is going to wear something solely for the cool/style factor, it should at least not look like they're dragging tons of weight all the time for no reason


>> No.5816941

Jesus the framerate for Ion Fury is bad. The third level can go into single digits in the larger areas. I know my machine sucks but it can run far more demanding shit than this.

>> No.5816943

shut up, alf

>> No.5816945

New bread

>> No.5817013

this is literally "why does mario eat mushroom haha" tier
there's criticizing something by its concept then execution
then there's this cinemasins bullshit

>> No.5817025

>You know who objectifies women even more than men? Other women.
A reminder that Bayonetta and a few other sexualized female characters are designed by women and Kamiya even got weirded out for one of her designs beig too sexualized
Also, that even women can enjoy these designs, lesbians or not, in the say way some dude can enjoy Dante and Big Boss, whether or not he wants to be fucked in the ass by those two

>> No.5817031

Also, a reminder that most games with "strong woman in the military industry complex that needs no man" fail to appeal to female players because they don't care for violent/shooter games
OverWatch is the most popular FPS with female players, excluding titty Twitch streamers and Tumblr headcanon secondaries
And it's still 1/8 out of the female playerbase for FUCKING SENRAN KAGURA
A fucking anime tiddy game has more girls playing it than one of the most diverse FPS in the market
Doesn't also help when these characters aren't that interesting

>> No.5817046

Weyte and JSJ were practically born to voice their characters, they really are perfect fits for them.

>> No.5817089

>I CAN'T BELIEVE people I hate play something I like a lot! THIS IS A TRAVESTY!
Oh sod off, punk. Reeee and rage all you want about something like this. I don't agree with his "you can't like Quake just because you don't like [insert group of people here], but seriously, you don't don't have to have the same lifestyle or viewpoints as you do.

>> No.5817098

Why do you tag me when I tell him to fuck off with his bullshit

>> No.5817112

Except Daisy retains the bunny look. Bowsette on the other hand was 100% an anime girl. Zero attachment.

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you could see someone clone himself and post the same opinions here and they'll find a way to shit at each other
i dunno, maybe it's the anonymity here

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that's the one, thanks

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Having fun with making lightning in Doom Builder

>> No.5817197

I haven't played Duke in years, and don't own a copy any more, so I got it today. eduke32, all working fine, and I got stuck on the first level for multiple minutes because I couldn't figure out where to go. In my defense, I wasn't used to how high duke could jump, and also kept getting distracted from opening a door, and I am immensely stupid. Plus I was getting weirded out by the novelty of looking up and down after playing a lot of doom with no vertical mouselook. But mostly jesus christ I was less stupid than this as a kid.

I never did like the Build games as much, but maybe I'll actually try Blood after this.

>> No.5817201

lighting or lightning ?

>> No.5817228

Ion Fury's a bit meh.

The levels feels like the enemies were just slapped in at the end. The enemy AI is absolutely dumb as FUCK. They don't even approach you 90% of the time they just stand there.

And lots of scripted segments just don't work lots of times. I had to reload a save 5 times because a scripted segments wouldn't happen correctly where enemys come into a room for a big shoot out

>> No.5817256

Needs more contrast.

>> No.5817360

Every single (real) girl I've played mmo's with were always the ones excited about the newest skimpy armor that came out. To them, it's like playing Barbie Doll dress up.

>> No.5817363

Are there any Quake maps that go for a more cyberpunk feeling?

>> No.5817706

Ion Fury is on the mega!

>> No.5817793

I mean, I wouldn't mind if there were some stripperiffic outfits to unlock for the male action heroes too.
Like the classic musclebound guy with pants, no shirt, and the bowtie, but he also has grenade launcher.

>> No.5817884

I think it's just basic demand. Guys like looking at pretty girls, and girls like playing dress up. Not as many guys like look at men, and not as many girls like playing as men when they can choose one or the other. So, since dev time and resources are limited, you just go with what will make more money.

That said, I always prefer to play as beefcakes when I can. Especially if I can wear leather or a fundoshi.

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I mean just wrap a belt of linked ammo around his torso and a machinegun to match, give him some pouches on his belt for ammo and other stuff, put on some good boots and then give him camo pants.

I mean classic B.J is halfway there. He's both a powerful action hero and beefcake.

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He's not THAT beefy

>> No.5818085

IMHO most of the levels are kind of a mess but its still a fun game. Marathon 2 has the first game beat. The series just got better with each new game

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All class

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I prefer to think as the artwork B.J as the canon guy.

>> No.5818269

Yeah I like stuff like this.

>> No.5818284

RIP thread

>> No.5818330

>ski free
>1 result
>it's the title
rip in piece thread

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