/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5812403]

What is the worst game you have ever played?

[Anonymous No.5812405]

Beavis and Butthead arcade. It even crashed halfway through the third level.

[Anonymous No.5812517]

Kingdom under fire: circle of doom

[Anonymous No.5812531]

>>5812403
Super Metroid.

[Anonymous No.5812563]

>>5812403
any game that isnt Super Metroid

[Anonymous No.5812569]

>>5812403
Probably Shark Tale (the video game) or Rugrats in Paris The Movie (the game). I played a lot of shovelware as a kid.

[Anonymous No.5812597]

>>5812403
Super Metroid

[Anonymous No.5812604]

>>5812403
master karateka

[Anonymous No.5812610]

>>5812403
Ghostbuster on NES was so disappointing to me as a kid that I thought the actual cartridge was damaged. But it was just the game.

[Anonymous No.5812616]

Batman Forever on the SNES or Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero. Both were Christmas gifts from a step-uncle. ...Thanks, Uncle Dennis.

[Anonymous No.5812624]

>>5812403
You sound a little butt hurt, is everything okay anon?

[Anonymous No.5812627]

The worst games to me are the ones that were so close to being good but fucked up hard somewhere along the way and rendered the entire thing unplayable. Conversely it's hard to get mad about games that didn't even try.

So maybe Silver Surfer or Whizz for the SNES.

[Anonymous No.5812691]

>>5812403
Besides the 80% from the chinese 101in1 carts for nes I'd have to say pit fighter for snes

[Anonymous No.5812701]

>>5812403
Earthbound
Ocarina Of Time
Yoshi's Island
Nostalgia needs to fuck off already, Nintendo is a shit company.
>console wars
No fuck off, Nintendo is shit.

[Anonymous No.5812702]

>>5812403
/vr/:
Bart’s Nightmare
Virtual Bart
Bevis & Butthead
Star Wars the Phantom Menace
7up

non /vr/:
Most Simple 2000 series games
Sonic 06
FF13 trilogy

[Anonymous No.5812727]

>>5812403
fallout brotherhood of steel.

if 76 wasn't such a perfect storm of everything that can go wrong with a game BoS would still be the worst game in the series.

[Anonymous No.5812732]

DBZ Taiketsu on the GBA that I picked out for my birthday because I loved dragon ball. Fucking horrid, but the music is good. I dare you to emulate it and experience the shitiness.

[Anonymous No.5812749]

N64 "Clay Fighters"

[Anonymous No.5812761]

>>5812702
Beavis and butthead for genesis is alright. And cool spot's not that bad. Bats nightmare sucks, but it's playable. You're doing pretty good if those are the worst games you've ever played

[Anonymous No.5812775]

Yandere Simulator. It was alright at first but the developer is a cock tissue and the game started to fuck up the next few times I tried to play or even run it.

[Anonymous No.5812795]

Probably Heavy Nova.

[Anonymous No.5812825]

I didn't know there was such a thing as a bad video game until I played this. How naive I was.

[Anonymous No.5812832]

>>5812405
>complains that a canceled, unfinished game is bad
you're retarded

[Anonymous No.5812841]

>>5812701
It's rare to find someone else who didn't grow up with Nintendo. Those games are all boring to play.

[Anonymous No.5812845]

>>5812702
>>5812761

On the other hand, Beavis and Butthead in Virtual Stupidity was awesome game.

[Anonymous No.5812847]

Beast wrestler on the genesis, by far.

[Anonymous No.5812858]

>>5812702
>Phantom Menace

The tatooine level was fun and hilarious though, the one where you're Qui-Gon Gin running around town fucking with people so that you can rip off the Merchant alien and free Anakin.

The gameplay isn't bad either; it's basically PS1 Lego Star Wars with some adventure game elements thrown in. It's harder than Lego, but the Lego games are so easy they're boring. They're more polished and modern of course, lol.

[Anonymous No.5812860]

>>5812795
I'm always disappointed when I remember a game with such great box art is so shit.

[Anonymous No.5812861]

>>5812701
no, you just have shit tastes
inb4
>nintendoyearold
nope.

[Anonymous No.5812865]

>>5812861
I think he meant that they're overrated, not that they're the worst games he's played. Was probably going off OP's pic saying "overrated."

And they are overrated if you first played them as an older teen, like I did.

[Anonymous No.5812885]

>>5812865
I love nin10 but I gotta admit their games get the most overrated in the industry. Does anyone here think Pokemon and Zelda are the greatest games ever made? anyone at all?

[Anonymous No.5812910]

>>5812825
This is not the worst game I've played, but it was definitely the first "bad" game I played. I rented this and so frustrated, had no idea what to do.

[Anonymous No.5812942]

>>5812860
Yeah usually such low effort games don't have that level of boxart. And if you don't see the game in motion those screenshots don't look too terrible.

[Anonymous No.5812949]

not retro

[Anonymous No.5812969]

>>5812403
Batman NES

[Anonymous No.5812981]

Doom

[Anonymous No.5812992]

>>5812969
I only tried to play Batman NES once as a teen and got autistic about the fact that it's a shooter and Batman is fighting mechs and shit... in a purple costume. Just didn't seem very "Batman" to me.

Recently I've noticed that a lot of retro streamers love it, though, so I'm thinking about trying it again.

[Anonymous No.5813280]

>>5812403
Your mother is a nigger lover

[Anonymous No.5813298]

>>5812403
I don't like ANY of the Mario games. Samus' worst outing beats any of his

[Anonymous No.5813369]

>>5813298
I feel the same way. Mario was always boring to me, every one I've played, and I've emulated most of them and have played more on the consoles of gf's and basedboy roommates.

I figure I'd probably have loved them as a small child though, didn't have a Nintendo console until I emulated one in high school.

[Anonymous No.5813386]

>>5812403
OPs mom

[Anonymous No.5813394]

>>5812403
Castlevania. Super Castlevania IV is the only good one.

[Anonymous No.5813406]

>>5813369
Super Mario World is probably one of the most complex game ever made with one of the richest game design ever with all the variety of enemies, items, gameplay possibility. If you can't see that you must have a low IQ and your opinion isn't very worthy. If you think a game has to be spectacular to be good you are wasting my oxygen.

[Anonymous No.5813409]

>>5812403
Certainly not Super Metroid, wonderful game.
The worst game I've ever played is probably Duke Nukem Forever, but popular consensus is that the game was made out of AIDS, so that's not a standout statement.

>>5812885
I think pokémon is ok as kinda just casual adventure RPGs. The gameplay has never been any challenging. Since I have pretty low expectations for the games, I guess that's why I seldom got it when fans got up in arms over something. I see the complaint with the National Dex thing though, that shit's fucking lazy.

For Zelda, the only ones I liked were Link's Awakening and then A Link To The Past. I guess also that quasi-remake on 3DS which I don't remember the name of.
Looking at all the other ones, they just don't look interesting to me.

[Anonymous No.5813430]

>>5813406
That's the SNES one, right? Tbh I only played up until the snow levels, I think it was called Snow Land or something stupid like that, I want to say it was after a donut land and a ghost castle?

I grew up with the Sonic Genesis games, so the short and simple levels of SMW don't seem too much more complex than something like Super Meat Boy except easier. I realize that Meat Boy came out decades later but I'm speaking of my own personal perspective. I would never try to convince the world that Super Mario isn't good, it'd be like trying to convince the world that Seinfeld isn't good.

[Anonymous No.5813442]

>>5813406
Imagine unironically thinking this about babby's first Mario game.

[Anonymous No.5813446]

>>5813409
>The gameplay has never been any challenging

Single player Pokemon is about as easy as any JRP gets, but if you get into multiplayer battles it actually has one of the deepest systems in any of them. That's why it's fans got so into it.

[Anonymous No.5813452]

>>5812403
>Dumbass couldn't even be bothered to get the gradient right.

[Anonymous No.5813463]

>>5812403
Super Mario World. What a pile of shit.

[Anonymous No.5813479]

>>5812701
Based Keenposter

[Anonymous No.5813489]

any 2d megaman

[Anonymous No.5813574]

>>5813442
Go on. Name a platformer with a bigger diversity of items, enemies or gameplay possibilities. Don't answer me if you can't. I won't even read your post.

[Anonymous No.5813679]

>>5813574
Super Mario Bros 3 faggot. So much more to that game. SMW couldn't even manage the concept of different worlds.

[Anonymous No.5813692]

>>5812531
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.5813703]

>>5812403
Whatever game is your favorite.

[Anonymous No.5813778]

>>5812832
OK, the canceled unfinished game is good, does that make you happier?

[Anonymous No.5813784]

>>5812885
Imagine not believing original Zelda isn't up there as one of the all time greats, and I'm far from a nintentard I always felt shit like OoT and Mario Kart 64 was overrated to the moon.

[Anonymous No.5813821]

>>5813784
They're wonderful but greatest is a stretch maybe. I don't care anymore since all games are good in their own right and a lot of people on the forum immediately namecall and I'm bored with it.
>>5813442
>>5813679
>Hur dur SMW is bad SMB3 is good
>Imagine unironically thinking this

[Anonymous No.5813826]

>>5812403
BASED

[Anonymous No.5813829]

>>5812701
unronically true and also based.

[Anonymous No.5813850]

>>5812403
Dragon Quest 1 is pretty bad. I'm honestly amazed some people claim to like it. It's just so dull.

[Anonymous No.5813853]

>>5812403

Wayne's World for the SNES

[Anonymous No.5814093]

>>5812701
This guy gets it. Fuck nintrendo.

[Anonymous No.5814148]

>>5813409
You guys have to remember that many games that are the most successful and talked about, like Pokemon and The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, owe a lot of their fame to factors outside of the games themselves. People hear so much about these games, then go back to play Pokemon Blue or the original N64 Ocarina of Time and are understandably disappointed. It was when they came out, the memories people have of them, who are the same demographic now that is the most vocal on the internet about praising them. In the case of Pokemon it was the whole mystique, there's so many of them to catch, it was a disguised basic JRPG Dragon Quest knock-off that had this unique pull, charm and character that transcended what otherwise would have been a prohibitively slow patience demanding game for american kids, making JRPGs popular in the USA in a similar manner to Final Fantasy VII and replacing the void left by a floundering Disney for a new cast of favorite cartoon characters for the child generation at the time. In the case of Ocarina of Time, it was a rather early example of a 3D action adventure game done right to that extent, there were plenty of less linear and deeper games but for the most part they were on PC, so it all fulfilled a void for people looking for a more immersive and cinematic game experience and was a perfect re-treading in the way the series had done the same for the standards at the time for the first Legend of Zelda on NES.

Far from defending the games, which were good for what they were and simply successful at what they said out to accomplish at the time they were released, i'm pointing out why the hype for them is so blown out of proportion, even to this day.

[Anonymous No.5814189]

>>5814148
>Nostalgia
It's only nostalgia carrying a lot of these older games.

[Anonymous No.5814221]

>>5812701
If you post bait,you have to try harder than that.

[Anonymous No.5814270]

This is the biggest piece of shit

[Anonymous No.5814440]

>>5812403
Certainly not that, you baiting faggot

[Anonymous No.5814501]

>>5814270
Great game. Classic.

[Anonymous No.5814508]

>>5814148
>go back to play Pokemon Blue or the original N64 Ocarina of Time and are understandably disappointed.
If you're disappointed by Ocarina of Time on original hardware + CRT then you're mentally deficient and shouldn't be commenting on the quality of anything. The game is obviously genius that's only matched by other entries in its own series. Name something else that even comes close.

[Anonymous No.5814592]

Tekwar

[Anonymous No.5814596]

>>5814148
I saw Dunkeys review of Ocarina of Time and he says it still holds up even today.

[Anonymous No.5814812]

>>5813409
Am I the only one who thought Duke Nukem Forever was fun for one quick playthrough? I'm not going to try to argue that it's a good game, it's disappointing shit, but I did play through the whole game and have memories of parts that were fun or interesting... at least for a first playthrough.

I've played way worse games than DNF.

[Anonymous No.5814847]

>>5814148
What a pile of makey-uppy drivel. Psycho was unlike any horror movie seen before when it was released, that doesn't make it any less amazing and great to watch today. The X-Files didn't really have any other fully modern sci-fi show like it at the time, so was its popularity blown out of proportion? No, that's totally unfair. These are exceptional pieces of media and ones that have stood the test of time. Nobody would give a shit about them and they'd be quickly forgotten if they weren't.

[Anonymous No.5814851]

>>5814847
And also, why is it so fucking hard for people to accept that other people just have different opinions on things to them? People literally just like or dislike things that you don't, they think something is better or less good, it's called having an opinion. There are no right or wrong opinions, but yeah if your opinion is in the 1% against everyone else's chances are you're not getting it.

[Anonymous No.5814937]

>>5814508
>Name something else that even comes close.
If we're not sticking to retro as per this board's definition of retro, then there are a lot of games that were influenced by and are better than Ocarina of Time.

At time of release, though, you're right in that nothing really came close to what Ocarina did. You just have to understand that people who aren't boomers like us have already grown up playing more modern games that did it better, so when they try Ocarina after hearing so many say it's "literally the #1 best game ever made in history," they're understandably disappointed.

It's like Seinfeld, dude. Most zoomers and younger millenials think Seinfeld is unfunny, because they saw shit like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia first. Of course it's going to seem tame by comparison despite being the first mainstream "the joke is that they're degenerate assholes" sitcom.

[Anonymous No.5814967]

>>5814937
But modern games are always worse

[Anonymous No.5814971]

>>5814937
>At time of release, though, you're right in that nothing really came close to what Ocarina did.
He's not talking about that, did it sound to you like he was talking about at the time of its release? Just stop with this "I know your brain better than you do, I know what you're thinking and why you're thinking it" fucking bullshit. It's easy to say the reason why other people hold different opinions to you is because of some stupid and invalid reason but it's just not the case.

I always thought Seinfeld was unfunny, 3rd Rock from the Sun is the best though. While the time you were young might have SOMETHING to do with what you enjoy, the way you're saying oh the only reason you love this classic game is because nostalgia is incredibly retarded.

[Anonymous No.5814995]

>>5812825
ever played the one based on showa ultraman?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXsN18kQiBI

[Anonymous No.5815228]

>>5813298
Metroid is a shitty backtracking simulator.

Meanwhile Mario is the most enjoyed franchise of all time.

[Anonymous No.5815270]

>>5814971
You're presuming a lot about the person you responded to, this makes the content of your post fairly ironic to read as a third party on the outside.

[Anonymous No.5815772]

>>5812702
Virtual Bart is excellent

[Anonymous No.5815801]

>>5812403
Fuck off you overstuffed cunt

[Anonymous No.5815837]

>>5812403
Your favorite game

[Anonymous No.5815891]

>>5814508
What was "genius" about Ocarina of Time? I played it, it was just a generic save the world fantasy story and some puzzles for kids like "move the special block with a symbol on it to the right place" etc.

[Anonymous No.5816016]

>>5814508
>>5814847
>>5814851

Here come the OOT defenders to defend a game that I praised. Still, it helps me to make my point more specific. Ocarina of Time is great in that there was nothing to compare it to when it came out, not just as an immersive 3d action adventure but because of its charm and focused design. It set standards, raised the bar, and was imitated many times.

Every piece of media, but especially video games which are such a disposable media where the technology changes so rapidly, is always a product of its time. To me the statement "Greatest game of all time" doesn't make sense, particularly for Ocarina of Time which was genre defining and hence paved the way for countless superior games in the decades to come that had opportunities that it couldn't have had on superior hardware. Perhaps, then, it's the greatest game relative to the constraints the developers had to work with. It came out at an impressionable time for the people like you who worship it and at a definite crossroads in the game industry both in terms of technology and the shifting nature of the console and PC gaming market.

Ocarina of Time was great for its time, and is still an enjoyable game to play to this day, which further speaks to the game's merits that it aged well by relying on focused level design, an inventive soundtrack that is weaved cleverly into the game-play, a realized 3d world that tells the story through the game itself and sturdy controls. To say, however, that it's the greatest game of all time is beyond the folly of seeing it through nostalgia goggles however, it shows a fundamental deficit that many people have in that they can't differentiate between a product being a landmark and the objective nature in relativity in what makes an individual product great.

[Anonymous No.5816035]

>>5812701
Commander Keen is worse than a Newgrounds flash game, talk about nostalgia you chode

[Anonymous No.5816185]

>>5816016
>Greatest game of all time

[Anonymous No.5816239]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

[Anonymous No.5816296]

>>5816035
The first one sucks ass, but the series gets better as it goes along. The later games are some of the best western sidescrolling platformers imo, though of course the Japs made the best back then.

Still glad Id moved on to developing FPS games though.

[Anonymous No.5816298]

>>5816185
>not Pong

[Anonymous No.5816402]

>>5813409
>complaining about Pokemon’s lack of challenge factor while praising Super Metroid, one of the easiest pieces of shit in the entire SNES library

[Anonymous No.5816413]

>>5816298
That’s correct, it’s not. Very good.

[Anonymous No.5816418]

>any zelda being the GOAT

I thought I was on /vr/, not facebook or some shit. You basic simpletons disgust me.

[Anonymous No.5816563]

>>5816402
I bow to your skittles?
I bow now?
>bow wow

[Anonymous No.5816581]

>>5813850
Fucking this. I own the cart so I decided one day to sit down and try to complete it, but at one point after I got to the second continent, I felt like my mind was melting from all the grinding. At one point I was just staring past the tv mashing the a button monotonously, and when the battles were over, would just blankly move the dpad back and forth to create the next. The only "enjoyment" you get from the game is "woohoo, I've gained 3 levels, I can access another yard of the map." There are some starters to a series that make you wonder how they even got popular in the first place.

[Anonymous No.5816804]

>>5812403
Doom

[Anonymous No.5816820]

>>5816035
>The Commander Keen 3D FPS we never got

[Anonymous No.5816821]

>>5812403
Morrowind

[Anonymous No.5816825]

>>5812845
That is a fun game.
The Genesis game is alright too, but it's the kind of game that makes you sit there and figure out how to do everything in a certain order. The fishing mini-game is a pain in the ass.
The SNES version is bland.

[Anonymous No.5816827]

Probably either Raid 2020 or the Hunt for the Red October on NES.

Honorable mention: Captain Planet and the Planeteers. Out of all the shitty games on NES why isn't this one ripped apart again?

[Anonymous No.5816864]

>>5816821
You take that back!

[Anonymous No.5817114]

>>5813850
It feels unplayable without a fast forward button. The sped up gameplay makes the walking feel like the norma speed it should have. The combat is also so incredibly bland, only using attack and heal.

[Anonymous No.5817117]

>>5812403
>100 replies to a thread that was only made so OP can attention whore his shitty contrarian opinion

[Anonymous No.5817127]

>>5812701
>p-please look at my awesome opinion, I hate popular thing! Look I'm so wacky and against the grain, g-give me attention please!

[Anonymous No.5817164]

>>5812701
>"And now, we just sit back and let the replies to roll in!"

[Anonymous No.5817638]

>>5812403
Final Fantasy 13

[Anonymous No.5817640]

>>5812403
OoT

[Anonymous No.5817701]

>>5817640
op said WORST

[Anonymous No.5818029]

>>5812616
dude tried anon. magazines were the only way to know if games were shitty back then and they still lied.

[Anonymous No.5818141]

>>5814596
who?

[Anonymous No.5818145]

>>5815228
t. Lineal lover

[Anonymous No.5818204]

>>5812847
why is this game so homoerotic and why are there no sprite rips

[Anonymous No.5818206]

after being excited to play it for 10 years, it was the let down of a life time holy fuck

[Anonymous No.5818216]

>>5812403
Mystical Fighter for Mega Drive/Genesis.

It was bad already when it was lauched. Today is just umberable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGB6Q_XYS3M

[Anonymous No.5818397]

>muh contrarian opinionz!!!

>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.5819343]

>>5812403
>run button that fucks up the rest of the controls
Fucking why did they do this? Ever play AM2R? Those controls are perfect. Why? No run button. It controls like Super Metroid should’ve.

[Anonymous No.5819346]

>>5818206
Played Shadow of the Colossus and loved it. Tried to play this and didn’t understand why people love it. It’s terrible, honestly.

[Anonymous No.5819361]

>>5812403
Not the worst by any means but holy shit I can’t believe people try to pass this off as the best Zelda game. The time system is fucking awful. Inb4 “muh dark edgy atmosphere and tension”. It’s terrible. It only makes for a frustrating experience. The concept of it is great. But it’s executed horribly. I’ve tried so hard to finish it. I’m about to start the last section and getting there hasn’t been fun in the slightest. I just want to beat it so I can definitively say that it’s terrible and no one can say “well you haven’t beaten it”. It’s awful. Horrible. I don’t care how fucking dark it is. Only autismos care about that dark edgy shit because they’re perpetually in the mind of a 12 year old who just discovered Linkin Park and Shadow the Hedgehog. Fuck this game.

[Anonymous No.5819371]

>>5818206
How the hell did this game get away with a Teen rating when you can hold hands with a girl and fall asleep together on a stone couch!?

[Anonymous No.5819494]

>>5819361
As someone who has played and never completed Majora's Mask I don't think it's that bad. It's executed decently and it's a unique experience but the game is inherently stressful because you have to plan out your run/manage time effectively/can't waste time exploring. It's not the best game for people who want to take it easy.

[Anonymous No.5819502]

>>5812403
why, my peenus weanus of course :)

hahah! :D

it's my weeeeeenus peanus! :) hahah

ITT: the worst game I have ever played - my answer is, of course, my peanus weenus :D

hahaha!

[Anonymous No.5819517]

>>5819502
Redpilled post.

[Anonymous No.5819925]

>>5814812
It's just the worst game that I personally have played, I did NOT have fun with DNF. I haven't played Blood 2, but it looks a dozen magnitudes worse, which makes me not want to play it at all, given the temperamental nature of that game, I have a convenient excuse to not touch it ever.

[Anonymous No.5819943]

>>5819494
The remake actually fixes a lot of those gripes by having saving at owls be the main way to save thereby encouraging playing it in sessions and venting a lot of pressure from the player.

[Anonymous No.5819962]

>>5816402
I enjoy both for what they are.
FWIW, Super Metroid did offer some challenge when I was 8 and played it with a shitty keyboard, that's like the one time I ever had difficulty with the walljumping, which otherwise should come very natural.
I think Fusion had a hard mode, which might be why I liked it more.

[Anonymous No.5819965]

>>5812403
Dino Rex, a 1991 2D fighter game from arcade.

[Anonymous No.5820128]

>>5819962
I've only played Super Metroid with a keyboard and you just made me realize that might be why I have never ever gotten past the mandatory walljump section with the bunnies.

I know that's an optional area but I always end up there and I always ragequit because the wall jumping pisses me off.

[Anonymous No.5820335]

>>5819361
Just play the Song of Time backwards which slows down time to go half as fast. Then you have plenty of time to clear the areas and dungeons, and simply go back to the first day once you've completed a dungeon. Time running out is never a problem then, and you can deposit rupees and buy arrows and bombs and stuff again which only takes a minute. The people who praise the game don't do so just because of the fact that it's dark, but because they genuinely enjoy the gameplay and time mechanic and found ways to mitigate the frustrating aspects of the challenge the pressure of time puts you under.

[Anonymous No.5820342]

>>5820128
That's easier with directional arrows than with a joypad..
>I'm not going to admit the reason why you quit there, I'm too nice
>>5820335
Players have to be patient and exploratory enough to discover those caveats or they end up like the poster you responded to.

[Anonymous No.5820350]

>>5820335
Backwards song of time still isn’t enough. The problem with the game is that you can’t multitask. It pretty much forces you to pick things to do and it’s frustrating if you fuck up one thing and have to reset. It’s not good design. I’m not a retard who just picked up the game. I know all of this. The game still sucks.

[Anonymous No.5820359]

>>5819361
you're a fucking retard
majora's mask is an actual ADVENTURE game, you know, how zelda games are supposed to be

[Anonymous No.5820360]

>>5820342
>be patient and exploratory
In a game that punishes you for being patient and exploring.

[Anonymous No.5820368]

>>5820359
It’s literally a timed chore list and nothing more. Ocarina of Time is an adventure game. The progression feels natural and earned whereas Majoras Mask is just checking off a list while a timer is on. It doesn’t feel at all like an adventure.

[Anonymous No.5820373]

>hurr durr S U P E R M E T R O I D
>AM I COOL NOW GUYS?

[Anonymous No.5820389]

>>5820350
It isn't for everyone. It would be equally wrong to say that the game is poorly designed as it would be to say that you're not patient or exploratory yourself enough. Some people, upon slowing down time and picking what they want to do and finding that their decisions were to some combination not viable or possible due to certain goals or events being time-sensitive would respond, "Oh, this is interesting, maybe I have to approach this a different way," and would enjoy the process. Clearly, you didn't, which is valid, but I don't see writing off the game as bad or the people who enjoy it as dumb or purely liking it for aesthetic reasons to the degree that they overlook the mechanics, as opposed to enjoying said mechanics also, as valid.

It's also worth mentioning that the game is a thrown together compilation of Ocarina of Time engine material, being made in under a year as a way of extending the profit margin of the resources and design that went into that game. This itself is the origin of the time mechanic--just have a small world with 4 dungeons but keep things dynamic and interesting by having the looping time within a single world that only has to be created and rendered once. Not to mention all of the re-used material. It would be DLC if it was made today.

[Anonymous No.5820397]

>>5820368
get a conscience you fuckin golem

[Anonymous No.5820405]

>>5820368
I think that's what they were going for. It's connected to the story. In Ocarina of Time you're fulfilling your destiny by become the chosen hero and stepping up to defeat the evil Ganon.

In Majora's Mask you wander into a strange town, meet indifferent residents and nontheless help their lives and save them from a more indiscriminate impending evil. The moon is the main threat but it's only going to hit Termina because of the wishes of the skull kid, which in turn is possesed by Majora's Mask, which itself is inanimate without a host. The entire purpose of the game, from the story to the gameplay, is meant to evoke different emotions in the player. It's simultaneously more impersonal from the previously mentioned aspects where Link is not stepping into a prophetic hero-role, and more personal because your quest is confined to the small clock-town and surrounding termina-area, giving the entire experience and unconventional feel breaking away from the "Save Hyrule" norm.

Plenty of people like the game so I don't think i'm inspired to say all of this to defend it as much as the comments here remind me of how sad it is that video game designers are understandably afraid of taking risks with games they make these days because people complain with unconventional and experimental game mechanic and story ideas which Majora's Mask is iconic in having.

[Anonymous No.5820603]

>>5820342
The reason I quit there is because I played Super Metroid after playing very many more modern Metroidvanias; I'm 32 but I didn't have any Nintendo consoles until I bought a Gamecube in high school to play RE4.

I honestly think it's a pretty boring game but it's probably just because I played it so late. I didn't have the urge to git gud at wall jumping, lol, I have a massive backlog.

[Anonymous No.5820716]

>>5812531
You must play only top notch masterpieces then.

[Anonymous No.5820758]

>>5813446
Yes, it got worse in handholding with recent titles though.

[Anonymous No.5820793]

any bethesda game, but mostly skyrim

[Anonymous No.5820808]

>>5812569
Is that why so many of you think the PSX library is nothing but shovelware? Because Inhad over a hundred games for the console, and no shovelware. And I was a teenager at the time.

[Anonymous No.5820814]

>>5812403
Fucking chrono trigger. Its a good game, but damn is it extremely overrated.

[Anonymous No.5820820]

>>5820603
If you want a tip for walljumping just in case; hold the opposite direction to the wall you're just about to touch, and as soon as you make contact jump again.
>>5820360
That's the challenge of MM, explore while under pressure from things fairly outside your control.>>5820389

>>5820368 >>5820405

[Anonymous No.5820821]

The worst? Look man you don't know what you're doing, you're opening up flood gates that once opened cannot be closed.

Fuck the original legend of Zelda! It's a fucking horrible game and it's only saving grace is the music! The game is absolutely horrid, especially compared to every other entry in the series, unless you bought the strategy guide you were just wandering around and dying the whole time, add on the fact that the gameplay itself sucks balls, I'm surprised the series lasted long enough to get a good game.

[Anonymous No.5820831]

The Wizard of Oz on SNES is just abysmal
https://youtu.be/x3SPCO9D2Rg

[Anonymous No.5820896]

>>5812403
Neptunia
Harry potter and super fun race on Megadrive

[Anonymous No.5820907]

Some pretty bad ports:
Simcity on Psion
Simcity 2000 on Snes

[Anonymous No.5821108]

>>5812616
He could have given you herpes instead. Be grateful.

[Anonymous No.5821484]

>>5820128
Platformers are just WAY more comfortable with a gamepad, I think it's way easier to get into those games like that.

>>5820342
I mean I fucking did it, I even beat the game, I beat very few games as a little kid because I was so embarrassingly shit at games then. Actually I guess that cements the notion that it's an easy game, I thought Mystic Quest was a hard game to beat too (aside from the end boss).

[Anonymous No.5821568]

>>5821484
I beat it 100% because it was awesome lol

[Anonymous No.5821612]

>>5812403
There's this board game called life. I'm bored.

[Anonymous No.5821654]

>>5820793
edgy

[Anonymous No.5821676]

>>5820128
>I've only played Super Metroid with a keyboard and you just made me realize that might be why I have never ever gotten past the mandatory walljump section with the bunnies.
>I know that's an optional area but I always end up there and I always ragequit because the wall jumping pisses me off.
This question gets asked a lot here, but sometimes there's nothing as pertinent to ask. Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.5821709]

>>5812627
If you played SS with a Game Genie (and got infinite bombs and lives) it was kinda fun. My brother and I just said fuck it and hackcoded the shit out of it. The ending's even funny and incomprehensible. Galactus just tells Surfer to give it a rest and Game Over.

[Anonymous No.5821728]

>>5812992
It's really good. Fair, fun, challenge

[Anonymous No.5821731]

>>5812992
So you were once the real life version of a youtube character played by a borderline retard.

[Anonymous No.5821749]

>>5820793
But he's right if he referes to the original thread title: Skyrim is massively overrated. All it has is good looks. And even that is highly subjective.

The questlines are worse the bigger they are (small ones are fine, long ones are repetetive and stereotypical). The combat vs dragons is laughable easy and lame (literally just stand right before it and hit it, spamming potions. Zero movement). And it's full of bugs and/or strange b ehaviour (by NPC and by physics). Add to that the gap between what it says it is ("this is our biggest city" / "This mountain is so high it was a glacier") to what it realy is (12 houses and a wall / hill that you can walk up in 10 minutes).

It's overhyped. Not completely bad, But all shiny shiny no substance.

[Anonymous No.5821764]

>>5821749
>Skyrim is massively overrated. All it has is good looks.
On what planet is Skyrim a good-looking game? It isn't even a competent-looking game. Any artist who worked on that game should rethink his career path. Walmart greeter or backyard hole digger might be a better fit.

[Anonymous No.5821770]

>>5821764
Holy hyperbole at least it looked better than oblivion, morrowind

[Anonymous No.5821802]

>>5821770
They updated the engine!

[Anonymous No.5821809]

>>5821770
Good point. At least your girlfriend looked better than the elephant man.

[Anonymous No.5821968]

>>5812403
I wish I had played Super Metroid with the Control Freak mod or the Super Metroid - GBA Style mod.
Control and physics were garbage, the latter iterations on GBA were much more comfier.

[Anonymous No.5822061]

>>5819346
Shadow of the Colossus is just as bad if not worse. Not sure why people like these pretentious meme games.

[Anonymous No.5822063]

>>5819361
It is the best 3D Zelda but that isn't saying much.

[Anonymous No.5822231]

>>5812701
>Yoshi's Island

How dare you?

[Anonymous No.5822254]

>>5819962
>I think Fusion had a hard mode
Only in Japan.

[Anonymous No.5822817]

>>5812992
It's hard as hell, but real damn fun.

[Anonymous No.5822819]

>>5812403
Pit-Fighter for game boy, or maybe Bart Simpson's escape from camp deadly. Those two are total turds, even bible adventures is better.

[Anonymous No.5822830]

>>5812403

[Anonymous No.5822834]

>>5812702
Sonic 06 has a special place in my heart for how incredibly terrible it is. I love that game so much, I've finished it twice. It's like a gift that keeps on giving, you just never know what is going to fuck up next.

[Anonymous No.5822840]

>>5818206
The best part was at the end when you explore under the castle by yourself.

[Anonymous No.5822929]

>>5821568
I mean yeah, it's a fun game with lots of exploration and great atmosphere.
I never 100%ed Super or Fusion though because I never managed to figure out shinesparking.

>>5821764
It's a substantial step up from Oblivion in a lot of ways, though I think both lack most of what made Morrowind so fun and engaging, plot, characters, and culture, as well as more defined character stats and more freedom in how to actually make yours (Bethesda dumbed this down considerably in later titles).

I wouldn't say it looks incompetent in terms of visuals, I'd say overall it looks competent, sometimes pretty decent, trees look like trees, rocks look like rocks, etc. If I were to complain about something it's that the character models are fucking ugly, but they were fucking ugly in Oblivion and Morrowind too. Not an excuse mind, you think with all this experience and the better tech they could make characters look better.
What IS incompetence on their part is how stupidly fucking buggy it is, Morrowind wasn't this buggy, and that's a game which took fans like a decade to actually fix all the errors and bugs Bethesda left.
Not fun bugs either, bugs which ruin the enjoyment of the game, such as artifacts and quest items inexplicably disappearing because someone was too retarded to make it not do that.

[Anonymous No.5822930]

>>5812403
I played through mario is missing

[Anonymous No.5822936]

>>5822930
Bro, I'm so sorry.

[Anonymous No.5823506]

10 yard fight

[Anonymous No.5823602]

>>5822929
>I mean yeah, it's a fun game with lots of exploration and great atmosphere.
I messed up syntax, I was referring to Majora's Mask, I'm sorry. I love me some Super Metroid but I keep stopping before I make it too far into it everytime. I'm not stuck I just keep fizzling out of gaming lately. But I would repurpose your greentext to be for MM and it fits, fun exploration and great atmosphere, that's MM alright.

I can only fault Bethesda on retconning their lore in Elder Scrolls. Argonians, the stars in the sky, I want to experience what was said to be true back when it couldn't be rendered. However if I'm patient maybe we will finally have it be the way it was intended and that would be amazing.

[Anonymous No.5823837]

>>5821676
Nope, just never played a game with such awkward wall jump controls. I'm sure I could learn them, but I get annoyed at that section and stop playing with the intention of coming back, but by the time I feel like tackling the challenge I end up restarting because it's been so long since I last played.

I also think Revenge of Shinobi and Shinobi 3 on genesis have awkward double jump controls despite the fact that I got used to it in those games. I'm not afraid to call out shit design decisions in retro games, even if I love them. Metroid has shit double jump controls. Those Shinobi games I mentioned are two of my all-time favorite games and they have shit double jump controls.

[Anonymous No.5823851]

>>5821731
Are you talking about AVGN? Yes, I made AVGN style complaints before AVGN was a thing. I'm that old and it does make me sad, plz no bully.

[Anonymous No.5823856]

>>5823837
Wall jumps in Super Metroid are supposed to be challenging because they let you sequence break.

My first play through I didn't know it was possible until I found that area.

[Anonymous No.5823904]

>>5823856
I hadn't considered that, and from that perspective it's actually a really dope design decision. Certainly they designed the game with early 90s SNES customers in mind, not dudes who played it for the first time in the 00's in an emulator who are obsessive NEETs with literally hundreds of games they want to play. Actually, I was in high school, so technically I wasn't a NEET but still, lol.

Fuck it, I'll try the game again. For you anons encouraging me to git gud. The only controller I can use, in my emulated copy, is a 360 controller. Should I stick to keyboard or use a 360 controller? If 360 controller, shitty d-pad or analogue stick? Buying a SNES USB controller is out of the question because I'm broke until I get my next substitute teacher check. It's gonna be a while, lol.

[Anonymous No.5824047]

>>5812403
"Deadly Towers" on the NES:
>Terrible music (which weirdly sticks in your head, especially the horribly-repetitive music in the underground labyrinth)
>Terrible-looking sprites and backgrounds
>Terrible controls
>Terrible collision detection
>Most enemies are just random objects (balls, puddles, flowers, flames) that stupidly fly, wiggle, and bounce around
>Goofy-looking bosses
>You die really easy
>You play as a warrior who doesn't swing a sword at monsters, but shoots swords like fucking bullets

[Anonymous No.5824085]

>>5823837
>Metroid has shit double jump controls.
Gonna have to give you a hard No on that one chief. Jumping in SM is really good. >>5823856

[Anonymous No.5824385]

>>5823904
i would say keyboard since i think i remember the 360 d-pad being a little too mushy. 2d metroid needs firm buttons.

[Anonymous No.5824645]

Everybody dislikes something that's popular

Super Metroid is one of my favorite games and one I consider to be one of the most enjoyable. It is not the most difficult game if gaining "feats" for dick measuring is your thing, and after the first time you beat it and know what to do at every part subsequent play throughs obviously will be even less of a challenge.

However, I still find it an extremely enjoyable experience and replay it every year or so, I find the environments fun to explore and revisit, I think the action is satisfying, and I just think it's a good adventure. I also never play games with the intention of "100 percenting them" by looking up secrets and using guides for anything unless I'm absolutely stuck, so I find that all the hidden items in the game give it a decent treasure hunting replayability. I've beaten the game many times and never got every single item yet, because I don't look it up.

I've never been able to fully appreciate Zelda....any of them, I find that they feel tedious and that the environments are bland, the enemies not fun to fight, and for an adventure game where you have to do a lot of travelling around slowly, retreading areas, and fighting enemies who are just filler essentially, being bland is a major offense. The only one I played all the way to the finish was Link To The Past, and while I wouldn't say it's bad just cause I didn't find it so appealing, I will say by the end of it I was more feeling of "glad that's over finally" than "wow that was fun, can't wait to do it again"

[Anonymous No.5824660]

>>5824645
How can you applaud SM but dislike Z, that baffles me, it's the same game only shifted perspectives and themes..

[Anonymous No.5824708]

>>5814995
Why the hell would I do that

[Anonymous No.5824714]

>>5812702
>7up
4th gen babbies unironically defend this as a hidden gem

[Anonymous No.5824879]

>>5817701
I know, thats why i posted OoT,

[Anonymous No.5824918]

I fire up OoT every now and then, attempting to get into it, only to be reminded of the horrible controls and camera and giving up 30 minutes in. I don't know if this game is enjoyable for anyone who didn't grow up playing it and thus regard it through thick nostalgia glasses. It appears to me that the population enslaved by Nintendo from birth has reached a critical mass, which resulted in OoT being regarded as the best game ever. I grew up playing PC games, and the clunkiness of the N64 doesn't appeal to be at all, even though I love 2D Nintendo consoles.

[Sonic 2 No.5824920]

>>5824918
It takes a high IQ to appreciate N64 games

[Anonymous No.5825396]

>>5814937
>>5814937
Both Seinfeld and always sunny are unfunny jew crap

[Anonymous No.5825414]

>>5814937
>If we're not sticking to retro as per this board's definition of retro, then there are a lot of games that were influenced by and are better than Ocarina of Time.
>At time of release, though, you're right in that nothing really came close to what Ocarina did.
I was talking about now. If you think that games from other series even vaguely approach what Ocarina does then you don't know what Ocarina does. People who play it now and are disappointed are easily frustrated troglos with bad taste who expected a medieval romp for retards, like Witcher or Skyrim, and they see Ocarina as a failed or primitive attempt at something like that.

[Anonymous No.5825426]

>>5822929
>I wouldn't say it looks incompetent in terms of visuals, I'd say overall it looks competent, sometimes pretty decent, trees look like trees, rocks look like rocks
Well I don't know about you, but that's certainly my standard for decent art; trees look like trees and rocks look like rock.
>When an aesthetics-blind nerd discusses art

[Anonymous No.5825432]

>>5823851
Yeah I was talking about AVGN. No bully just teasing.

[Anonymous No.5825458]

>>5825396
Nah, you're just a tasteless zoomer.

[Anonymous No.5825479]

>>5825426
I mean what the fuck is there to say about Skyrim's visuals? They look passable across the board for the most part, things look passably like what they need to at most times, a few things look kinda nice, a bunch of things, particularly NPC and character models don't look very great (though looking mostly better than Oblivion's potato faces).

Yeah, it's not a very visually inspiring game, and I can't say I find myself clamoring for its aesthetics, but at the same time I can't point at it and say that it looks terrible, because it really doesn't. I've seen terrible graphics, and Skyrim, for its flaws, is just not terrible in that department. This isn't me singing its praises, you fucking nerd.

[Anonymous No.5825482]

>>5825458
Lol you wish, goy

[Anonymous No.5825493]

>>5825482
You're a zoomer in spirit.

[Anonymous No.5825593]

>>5825493
T. Good goy

[Anonymous No.5825721]

Earthbound, Final Fantasy IV and VI, Chrono Trigger.

[Anonymous No.5825915]

>>5820342
>Players have to be patient and exploratory enough to discover those caveats or they end up like the poster you responded to.
Oh boy, random, unnecessary annoyances, my favorite
I beat the game, but it's the worst Zelda I've ever played.

[Anonymous No.5825969]

Overrated and worst are two different terms.

For example I think the entire Super Mario brand is overrated, especially the /v/ related titles, but they are far from being the worst games ever made.

Worst games are like the ones on the Atari/c64/etc., which crashed after playing 3 minutes.

[Anonymous No.5825993]

>>5812403
All I have to say about this subject is this...

You are fag.

[Anonymous No.5826062]

>>5812403
Any of those fucking RPGs where they give you a choice of 30 character classes but you can only beat the game with 3 of them.

>Final Fantasy 1 (NES)
You completely gimp your ability to beat the game if you choose the wrong starting classes.

>The Final Fantasy Legend (Game Boy)
Same thing. The bug monster dudes seem awesome. The ability to transform into other monsters and gain their abilities? Amazing. Except choosing one of them for your party severely gimps your game.

There are lots of RPGs like this, where you're given so many options for starting out but only a FEW of them actually WORK. That's complete horse hockey bullshit.

[Anonymous No.5826535]

>>5825915
If the one year crunch to push the game out with reused gaming assets wasn't a random and unnecessary annoyance, then how is the game mechanic of three days repeated that either? Try to imagine that the stress the developers felt creating the game has been faithfully represented in the game and you might gain a new appreciation and perspective on it.
The game revolves around it so it's far from contrived. Sadly the game was supposed to feature a repeating week but they had to cut it down to the nitty and gritty to make the deadline. Once you can immerse yourself in the world and embrace the atmosphere of the game it becomes an enriching experience and you'll understand the love the game gets. Like the three day cycle, you'll find yourself returning to play through the game again because you enjoy it too.
I'm not sure what the worst Zelda game I've played would end up being. I'm not sure if I can lump any of them into that, except for maybe Botw, maybe, because it's such a stark contrast from the rest of the series and I'm salty that there's a lack of content and laughable over abundance of repetitive content such as the bite sized shrines and the kokorok seed collectibles. Botw doesn't revolve around them for plot related reasons so it's more egregious to me personally.

[Anonymous No.5826573]

Without question, the most overrated "classic" PC game I've ever played, more so because of how an affront it is to the first game
>out of place techno music
>constantly respawning enemies with only a flimsy excuse (body of many) as to why
>Corridors of Many being badly designed in general
>badly balanced, shoehorned in RPG mechanics (lol PSI) that were only superficially meant to make the game feel like Ultima Underworld
>main character is supposed to be a trained military operative yet has worse agility and hand-eye coordination that the unmodified hacker from the beginning of SS1.
>tries to be "realistic" by having unrealistic guns that break constantly
>ground zero for Ken Levine's meta-narrative bullshit that would get worse in Bioshit
>complete fucking farce of an ending with Shodan suddenly acting like a cartoon villian and NAH
The reason to choose SS2 over 1 was because 2 was, for a time, easier to get running with a modern control setup. Now, you can just pirate the enhanced edition of SS1 without rebinding keys with an additional program or some shit, and how it's still a better designed game, with or without tank sim controls.

[Anonymous No.5826708]

SS1

[Anonymous No.5826734]

>>5812845
fucking loved that game
you can actually find it pretty easily online. it worked without much fuss on win10