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Just a curious anon.
Give your opinions or just keep scrolling.

Tell your experiences, if you want.

>> No.5810134

Great game but the solar sensor is completely useless since all you need is 15 miutes of sun exposure every day to reach ideal Vitamin D intake

>> No.5810141

>>5810127
It's super good but Boktai 2 is even better.

>> No.5810152

>>5810141
OP here.
I agree.

But imo, I think that the third game was the better.
Good story. Change of gameplay (no spoilers).

>> No.5810169

>>5810127
2003
This game is not for /vr/.

>> No.5810178

>>5810169
OP here.

Well, you noticed.
Not gonna lie.

I forgot to check the release time before reading the damn pinned post.

And I don't know how to delete this now.
I suppose I can't.

So, I'm sorry.

>> No.5810213

>>5810178
You have sinned. You owe us something. I don't know what. /vr/ cheesecake or something.

>> No.5810217

>>5810127
There's a sequel which might be even better than the original.

>> No.5810795

>>5810127
Loved 1. 2 was meh but the music was excellent and 3 was meh overall. I will never understand how they went from an interesting mix of Castlevania x Metal Gear to generic ARPG mechanics. And the DS spiritual sequel was complete shit but we mostly just pretend it doesn't exist, right?

>> No.5810851

>>5810127
>2003
yeah, i'm thinking this is not retro

>> No.5810853

>>5810127
Read about it in a magazine, always wanted to try it.

>> No.5810871

i owned it briefly
i thought it was shit because it relied on sunlight and you can't even see the gba screen in sunlight so i traded it in
was i retarded?

>> No.5810884

>>5810871
Yeah because the GBA screen was only visible well in full sunlight, it's shitty dark screen was part of the reason for the design of the game.

>> No.5810890

>>5810884
I thought direct sunlight made it worse due to glare

>> No.5810893

>>5810890
It sounds like you're talking in theory having never actually used an original model GBA.

>> No.5810901

>>5810851
Nut retro hehe

>> No.5810904

>>5810884
this isn't how i remember it... i don't have an original GBA on hand to check, but i remember bright light making the screen impossible to see

>> No.5810921

>>5810884
>>5810893
I remember having the original gba as well. You need light to see the screen but direct sunlight would cause glare and make it impossible to see.

>> No.5811028

>>5810127
The gimmick was maybe interesting, I only ever eumlated it and you just held down some buttons to charge the sun meter so it didn't matter. I do like the idea of dragging a vampire out of its lair into the sun to fry like that James Wood's movie Vampires.

>> No.5811029

>>5811028
Honestly the game played better that way, if you lived in a place with winter or rainy seasons the game was unplayable outside of side dungeons for months.

>> No.5811034

>>5811029
And if you charged for too long the game entered anti-cancer mode that blocked you from charging for the whole day.

>> No.5811532

>>5810169
Debuted as a Game Boy Color project and reuses the Metal Gear Ghost Babel game engine.

>> No.5811541

>>5811034
>And if you charged for too long the game entered anti-cancer mode that blocked you from charging for the whole day.
Jesus, that's terrible.

>> No.5811730

>>5810169
GBA is the last console with soul it's alright. Had lots of SNES ports and had solely 2d games with no online cancer

>> No.5811735

>>5811532
>abloobloo
doesn't matter, not retro

>> No.5811737

>>5811730
>pure 2D system
So was java but that doesn't make https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a68IhmN7VhU retro

>> No.5811809

>>5810169
Okay, so how long does it take until GBA become retro?

>> No.5811831

>>5811737
>mobileshit
>assassin's creeds
>autorunner
It's got the trappings of modern games

>> No.5811858

>>5811809
Until the year 2000 returns.

>> No.5811935

>>5811809
If the autists have their way, it will never happen. They don't view "retro" as a moving target related to the relative past, they view it as a specific set of years or "era." To them, retro goes from 1970 to 2000, and any time after 2000 would have to have a different name because the name "retro" is already assigned to the previously-mentioned 30 year period. It's fucking retarded, but that's how they think.

>> No.5812017

>>5811809
Consistent issue with /vr/ and /v/, I'd say make a 6th Gen to 7th Gen Board as that went almost as long as 3rd to 5th.

>> No.5812026

>>5811935
Then just change the board to /vo/ - Old Videogames.

>> No.5812107

>>5811935
>opera and chuck berry are both old so they're totally the same thing!
That's how le retro is a moving period posters sound.

>> No.5812365

>>5812107
Do you think the concept of "retro" didn't exist before the year 2000 or what? In the 70s, people considered the 50s and 60s "retro." In the 80s, it was the 60s and 70s. In the 90s we called the 80s "retro." But now that we're practically into 2020, the 00s can't be retro? People have been using the term "retro" since the fucking 1960s, but how can that be if "retro" is a static time period that began AFTER the 60s?

>> No.5812389

>>5812365
You're just autistically arguing about semantics. Don't call it retro then, the fact of the matter is that you guys are trying to group very different eras of gaming under a generic umbrella term.
>b-but the rules are arbitrary because [x], and it's not like games magically became nonretro in 2000!
Sure, it's a gradient. 5th gen is barely retro anyway and you can never be 100% precise with shit like this, but they get the job done.

So no, I want my opera board to be about opera, thank you. Keep pushing for /v2k/ or make a general in /vg/

>> No.5812414

>>5811935
That's retarded. I assumed it was in the 20~25 year range. Retro is 100% a "moving target". I knew 4chan was a special place, but is this true what you're saying? I can't tell what's trolling anymore.

>> No.5812415

>>5812389
If anything we should call gen 1-3 "vintage games" and gen 4-6 "retro games." Retro relates to the recent past, and the 80s are anything but recent at this point.

>> No.5812416

>>5812414
Too obvious.

>> No.5812419

>>5812414
Yes, I'm not shitting you. See: >>5812107 and >>5812389
He's being completely serious and people like him are who stonewall the board from allowing more recent retro stuff.

>> No.5812427

>>5812107
You're making a fool of yourself. No one even hinted that rock n roll and opera were the same thing.

>> No.5812431

>>5812427
They're both
>old music
and should totally belong in the old music board. Get on with the times, grandpa.

>> No.5812438

>>5812431
Even deepening the retardation, trying to compare the history of music to video games. It doesn't really need to be put in stone, just have a cut-off point. Here's an example. In thirty years from now, we can consider the ps4 retro, but still discuss nes or sega genesis. Is it really that hard to understand?

>> No.5812442

>>5812438
>In thirty years from now, we can consider the ps4 retro, but still discuss nes or sega genesis. Is it really that hard to understand?
They really just can't understand it. They don't seem to notice how, say, old Atari games are hardly ever discussed and even NES and other 8-bit console discussion has waned a bit. There are more posts than ever about 16-bit, 32-bit, and 64-bit consoles. It's almost as if the board is naturally shifting in discussion as older people leave and younger people become older and start showing up more. But then those people come around to discuss GBA games because they view them as retro and they're slapped with that hard 2000 cut-off. It's so tone-deaf, so lacking in self-awareness... something's gotta give eventually.

>> No.5812447

Is there a rom for this without the solar thing?

>> No.5812450

>>5812438
That would be retarded because there are notable differences between the 90s and the PS2 era of gaming, and PS4 is literally a world apart. You have to stop and separate between different time periods, that's what we do for literally any other form of media.
>b-but games are a young format, you can't really compare them with music or movies
They evolved faster because of tech limitations.

>> No.5812458

>>5812442
Older people left because the board is in worse state than ever with /v/ tier shitposting running rampant. And your suggestion is literally embracing it.

>> No.5812459

>>5812450
>there are notable differences between the 90s and the PS2 era of gaming
And yet you feel Atari 2600 and Amiga fit right on in alongside N64 and PS1?

>> No.5812469

>>5812459
See >>5812389
>Sure, it's a gradient. 5th gen is barely retro anyway and you can never be 100% precise with shit like this, but they get the job done.

>> No.5812476

>>5812450
>You have to stop and separate between different time periods

Says who? I'd rather learn more from the past then forget about it, video games or not.

>> No.5812494

>>5812469
Fine, even Atari and SNES don't feel like part of the same era.

>> No.5812516

>>5812494
Got me there, I actually agree, first and maybe second gen feel like their own thing too. But those rarely come up and don't really affect the board much so it's something I can live with. 6th gen is both different and big so it would leave a deep impact here.

>> No.5813073

>>5812447
https://github.com/Prof9/boktai-solar-sensor-patches

You can also just play it on mGBA, which can emulate the solar sensor.

>> No.5813240

>>5812516
>But those rarely come up and don't really affect the board much so it's something I can live with
Eventually, NES will barely come up. The trend is already occurring. At some point it will simply make sense to allow discussion of later consoles as the people with nostalgia for older ones die off, both literally in life and figuratively from 4chan.

>> No.5813249

>>5813240
You would have a point if this board were just for sharing nostalgia, but that's the most boring kind of retro "discussion."

>> No.5813261

Do mods just not read the board anymore or

>> No.5813279

>>5813249
It's not just about sharing nostalgia, but you can't deny it's the root of what brings most people here in the first place.

>>5813261
Every board is allowed to have one meta thread :^)

>> No.5813283

>>5813261
I'd wager at least one of the mods either quit or got fired. There's a lot of posts that would get deleted instantly that are staying up these days. Notably, you can have a Treasure thread without half the posts being deleted now.

>> No.5813382

>>5811935
>>5812442

All that arguing about semantics is indeed really retarded.

Can we please be honest and admit that there is a very specific reason for the cutoff that cannot be explained by intepreting an arguable term like "retro? - It's to keep the gates closed.
Why do you think /vr/ is not so much like /v/? Because of the niche status which keeps it a bit under the radar. You might have noticed that even with that the quality of the board has begun to deteriorate. As soon as you open it to those larger (and younger) userbase you can kiss it completely goodbye and say hello to /v/2.0. THAT is the fear and THAT is why that rule is in place. Now whether that really would be the case is the question, generally with getting older people should get more civilised, should they?... Also "retro" here does not just specify a specific time period but more an overall gaming experience in look and feel because of hardware limitations up to the low-poly experience of the late 90s. The PS3 after this definition can never be "retro" because it produces too "lifelike" images, the difference between it and reality is too small. Which makes sense, since reality will not change its look a system that emulates it close will still be that close to it even in 50 years. The retro era is characterized by huge leaps in capabilities and visuals, like the jump to 3D which was mindblowing at the time. Because of this handhelds have always screwed this definition up, with them having much more limited hardware. Like the GBA with its more SNES-like feel and experience. To me personally counting the GBA as retro has always been acceptable, but I am just one insignificant guy onm this board and there again is the fear of it opening the floodgates because of its long lifespan far into the 2000s...

>> No.5813392

>>5810904
>>5810921
Sure if you hold it so the angle between your eyes and the sun meet it will be pure glare, but it's not like it's hard to position so that doesn't happen.

>>5813283
>>5813261
That's not how this site ever worked. There aren't board specific staff, mods and janitors don't skim catalogues looking for threads that might break rules, they just respond to reports. If a thread like this doesn't have a ton of reports against it, isn't full of trolling and the janitor who looks at it doesn't care then it could stay up quite a while.

>> No.5813396

>>5813382
>by intepreting an arguable term like "retro?

There's nothing wrong with the word, it just doesn't apply to what this board is supposed to be about.

I agree the rules should be changed either to include all of 6th gen or better yet to a time based rule where any game 20 years old is fair game. But I don't care a lot if they aren't. Boktai fits discussion here far better than new shovelware like Pier Solar or Tanglewood.

>> No.5813402

Shit nigga you've typed a lotta words to say you're a faggot.

>> No.5813418

I get not wanting the PS2/Xbox/GCN but what's wromg with the GBA?

>> No.5813423

>>5813418
Because it's in the same generation as PS2/Xbox/GCN. Don't you think it would be weird if you could discuss Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire, but not the GCN games it can connect to?

>> No.5813424

>>5813382
>Desperate Gatekeeping: The Post

>> No.5813508

>>5813423
Don't you think it would be weird to discuss the Dreamcast, but not the systems it's contemporary to? Oh, wait...

>> No.5813528

>>5813508
>the systems it's contemporary to
You mean PS and N64?

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5813560

>>5813528
Are you genuinely retarded or pretending to be?

>> No.5813563

>>5813382
/vr/ is and has always been full of desperate hipsters and Sega cultists willing to consistently bend their own rules to excuse stuff like the Dreamcast. I'm looking forward to the tantrums and breakdowns whenever a mod actually pays attention to this board, since it's likely that the only reason why nothing has been updated is because nobody gives enough of a shit to do so.

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5813681

You know I had to sage and report it to em.

>> No.5813710

>>5813563
Who do you think you're kidding? No Sega fan cares about getting more systems here, Dreamcast is already allowed. It's 90% retarded GBA fans who think because the resolution sucks it's just like a second SNES even though the game design is wildly different.

>> No.5813790

>>5813710
Not really, original GBA games are pretty similar to SNES games. Look at MK Super Circuit, Metroid Fusion and Kirby & Amazing Mirror.

>> No.5813827

>>5813790
Graphics wise yes, game design wise, no.

>> No.5813834

>>5813827
How? They are more similar to older entries in the series than the newer ones, especially Super Circuit.

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5813854

>>5813790
There's SNES-like games on the consoles too. Either all or none of sixth gen should be allowed.

>> No.5813857

>>5813854
They should at least let the first two years of sixth gen in. I heard someone else mention that retro occurs on a gradient. Have the original launch titles flow in already.

>> No.5813859

I have a copy and enjoy it. The solar sensor is turning to shit. Wish there was a way to fix it.

>> No.5813863

>>5813834
Metroid Fusion felt a little like a 16 bit game, but the vast majority of tge GBA titles are part of 6th gen.

>> No.5813870

>>5813857
The 20 year rule is the only one that makes sense to me. Goingby generation is stupid.

>> No.5813882

>>5813834
Not him, but to me it's a hit and miss thing.

Fusion doesn't feel like retro Metroid at all. It's a very easy, wanna be cinematic, mostly linear game filled with flow interrupting cutscenes.

GBA has a lot of games I would call 6th gen little.

Then you have legitimately retro feeling ones like Wario 4 or Mario Kart, and everything in between.

>>5813857
If anything Dreamcast is already pushing the gradient too much.

>> No.5813885

>>5813870
Yeah I never got that, 5th gen consoles got games in 2000 and 2001 and you could discuss those since the board was created in 2013 when they were hardly a decade old.

>> No.5813913

>>5813885
Exactly. I feel this board should be for old games in general because that's what makes sense. Most who are against any changes have their main reason that they want to keep the board as small as possible which I strongly dusagree with. The small population here is why it's so stagnant and we have the same threads over and over which are almost all just bait, console wars or whining about the reseller market.

>> No.5813925

>>5813885
I think the cutoff should be 15 years, that would be ideal if we're trying to establish discussion of games that are too old for the /v/ audience to care about any more.

>> No.5813936

>>5813913
/v/ allows all games and is still full of bait and console wars. I'm fine with sixth gen being on /vr/, but you're nuts if you think it's going to improve the discussions here.

>> No.5813946

>>5813936
Well I don't see the big difference most people claim between here and /v/. I have no trouble with threads like that, but the low population tends to lead to not just similar threads, but the exact ones over and over again. That's why I think attracting more posters here would be good.

>> No.5813969

>>5813946
You weren't here before /v/'s unrelenting shitposting drove all the good posters away. Go look in the /vr/ archives prior to 2015. Notice the quality. Look at 2017. Notice how it had degenerated into threads about top 10 games, recommendation threads, meme threads, and shit barely related to the subject. It's not the low population, /vr/ has always been a slow board, it's the userbase. Attracting more /v/ shitposters is highly unlikely to improve the board, since the more /v/ has taken over the board the lower the quality has gotten.

DIg through the archives long enough and you can spot the exact moment the board started getting more meme threads and stupidity. Lemme know when you find the point.

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5813970

You know I had to sage and report it to em.

>> No.5813979

>>5813885
>>5813870
>Can't discuss every game on a console because year cutoff
So, being able to discuss Gran Turismo 2 on PSX but NOT Fear Effect somehow makes more sense than being able to discuss every game on a console? You think the mods will actually take the time and effort to research the release date of every game posted? How dumb are you two?

>> No.5814020

>>5810127
big round number year
>big round number year
big round number year

>> No.5814024

>non-retro-thread not deleted for a day
>/v/-spergs already posting Halo- and PS2-shit
Janny, are you OK?
Are you OK?
Are you OK, Janny?

>> No.5814028

>>5813560
>>5813508
>DC launched in 1999
>DC EOL'd on March 31st 2001
>GBA released on March 21st 2001
>contemporary
yeah, for whole 11 days LOL

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5814032

>>5814028
Is that bait or are you legit retarded?

>> No.5814035

>>5813979
They're clearly not paying attention as is.

>> No.5814060

>>5814032
Feeling like a grown-up, throwing around big-boy-bad-words like that?

>> No.5814064

>>5810127
Wait, 6th gen is legal now? COOL! What you guys’ top 10 PS2 games?

>> No.5814070

>>5814064
You are [insert favorite insult]

>> No.5814080

>>5814070
What? Obviously 6th gen is okay now, this thread is still up. Cope geezer.

>> No.5814092

>>5814060
Were any of those words big for you? Did I post a screenshot of a PS1 or PS2 game?

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5814101

>>5814064
monster hunter is cool

>> No.5814113

>With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.
What the fuck did they mean by this?

>> No.5814115

>>5811809
>the GBA is 18 years old
the GBA is allowed to post here, end of story

>> No.5814121

>>5814115
I agree with this idea, allow GBA & PS2.

>> No.5814123

>>5814115
I got warned by posting a WSC game, keep in mind that WSC came out a year before GBA. Fucking mods.

>> No.5814134

>>5814113
We're only allowed one new console per generation.

I vote to allow the N-Gage for 9th gen.

>> No.5814141

>>5810127
Why are mods deleting other threads but have left this one up for over a day?

>> No.5814147

>>5814141
nobody played boktai so nobody knows it's not retro

>> No.5814149

>>5814147
The GBA itself isn't retro.

>> No.5814151

>>5814149
>This "Boktai" thing could be a remake of a retro game, better play it safe and leave the thread up

>> No.5814160

>>5814151
One of the jannies probably posted this thread himself.

>> No.5814169

>>5813970
>>5814141
Every board is allowed to have one meta thread. I assume they consider this to be /vr/'s meta thread.

>> No.5814174

>>5814160
>>5814149
My guess is that GBA is naturally going to be the next thing the board allows under their retro clause.

>> No.5814224

>>5811730
>had solely 2d games
but that's wrong

>> No.5814251

>>>/qa/2910943