/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5809532]

Good news and bad news
Good news: cancel your pre-order and save some money
Bad news: 11 frames of audio lag

Fucking M2 could have gone with open source Genesis Plus instead of making this pile of garbage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe39YHYUQBU

[Anonymous No.5809553]

>>5809532
>game suck
Opinion disregarded. I dont buy mini memes anyways.

[Anonymous No.5809572]

Someone dump the Darius rom

[Anonymous No.5809574]

>>5809532
OP this is an official Sega product, it's not one of those chink clones.

What did you expect, quality?

[Anonymous No.5809593]

>>5809553
>criticizing based sack
Go watch your clevage twitch whore or red haired screaming kid merchant

[Anonymous No.5809640]

>>5809532
Meh, my autism isn’t strong enough to notice the audio issue. It won’t be bothering me any.

Most of his complaints seem to come from the lack of 6 button pads, which won’t be a problem for me because I preordered the Japanese MegaDrive mini which comes with 6 button pads.

My only beef was Battle Mania Daiginjou or Arcus Odyssey not being included but I own physical copies of those anyway so whatever. I’m mostly just getting it as a collector of MegaDrive stuff to compliment my actual MegaDrive. It’ll be cool to have the mini box next to the actual box. At least SEGA made the right move and put MUSHA and Vampire Killer and Revenge of Shinobi, so I’m pretty happy.

[Anonymous No.5809657]

>>5809532
>Bad news: 11 frames of audio lag
So just like the NES Mini. Annoying, but if that's the worst thing about it, then not too big a deal to me.

The hackers will crack it and then a better emulator can be used anyway.

[Anonymous No.5809664]

If they don't announce firmware update with bilinear filter and 1:1 picture mode I'm going to cancel it

[Anonymous No.5809670]

>>5809532
Or, you know, you could just get whatever is the current fastest pi, install retropie, and have every single classic system released on a single board running at full speed.

[Anonymous No.5809678]

>>5809670
This mini is actually slightly faster than real hardware even. Real Genesis runs at 59hz, the mini runs at 60hz.

[Anonymous No.5809703]

>>5809532
I'm surprised they can say anything negative about it considering how much SEGA cock they suck on a regular basis on their videos.

[Sage No.5809709]

You know I had to sage and report it to em.

[Anonymous No.5809714]

>>5809678
>the mini runs at 60hz.
>Pi boards support multiple video modes, including ones that run at 60Hz.
You say it as if the mini isn't emulating roms just like a Raspberry P does.
M2 is the only selling point. You can get genesis/megadrive pi enclosures and retrobit controllers. You can even get a nearly identical menu theme.

[Anonymous No.5809718]

>>5809714
>M2 is the only selling point
I don't understand what you mean. I think normalfags don't know who that is and don't care, and anyone even tangentially in the emu scene will see that as a negative.

[Anonymous No.5809725]

>>5809718
>I think normalfags don't know who that is
You underestimate the influence of ecelebs

[Anonymous No.5809730]

>>5809703
>they

[Anonymous No.5809731]

>>5809714
And it looks like M2 was either gimped or shit the bed.

[Anonymous No.5809734]

>>5809725
it is not ecelebs it is (((influencers)))

[Anonymous No.5809867]

M2 is overrated desu

[Anonymous No.5809906]

>>5809532
>inauthentic 3button controller
trash

[Anonymous No.5809914]

>mini consoles

[Anonymous No.5809915]

>>5809572
laughing at how they keep talking about it, but are neglecting the new tetris game included

[Anonymous No.5809932]

>>5809670
Also with a whole bunch of audio latency.

[Anonymous No.5810752]

>>5809657
Modern Vintage Gamer said it was system on a chip. I think our hopes of hacking it have been crushed. We might be able to add games, but no Master System, Game Gear, 32X, CD, RetroArch, or any better emulators.

[Anonymous No.5810758]

>>5809532
>cancel your pre-order and save some money
Why do you think anyone on this board had this thing preordered for any reason other than scalping?

[Anonymous No.5810759]

>>5809915
It's not new zoomer, it's the same shitty cancelled arcade port that was on the PS2 Sega Ages collection

[Anonymous No.5810808]

>>5809532
Only one I paid for with my own money was the PS Classic for $30 when stores were liquidating all their stock.

[Anonymous No.5810881]

>>5810758
You would think scalpniggers would have learned their lesson from the PlayStation classic...

[Anonymous No.5810903]

>>5809718
>and anyone even tangentially in the emu scene will see that as a negative.
Why?

[Anonymous No.5810910]

>>5810881
Sega still has more fanboys than Sony ever did. This one will probably sell more total.

[Anonymous No.5810927]

>decades of shit companies making dodgy hardware for mega drive games
>Sega brings it in house
>it's still rubbish

[Anonymous No.5810934]

>>5810927
"in-house" doesn't mean shit. Sony's "in-house" effort was taking defective binned 4k firestick SOCs, clocking them down, and using a broken version of PCSX-ReARMed.

[Anonymous No.5810959]

>>5809670
replace snes classic with genesis mini and you get the idea

[Anonymous No.5810974]

>>5810752
It's an ARM based SoC, just like NES and SNES Mini consoles, it might be hacked just as well.

[Anonymous No.5811037]

>>5810910
oh please, you could add up the total sales of every sega console & handheld ever made and not match the number of ps2s sold.

[Anonymous No.5811040]

>>5809532
>preordering this shit
Anybody who did this deserves to lose their money either way

[Anonymous No.5811041]

>>5810759
nope. early reports stated that it was a new port and not a cancelled port. you're gonna need sources or you're gonna need to zoom on outta here kiddo.

[Anonymous No.5811048]

>>5809553
Literally the only eceleb channel I care to watch. That channel is great. This really sucks to hear that this mini just had to be trash but I guess Sega has been trash since at least the mid 90's.

[Anonymous No.5811218]

>>5810752
If M2 release a decent firmware update we can still use their own emulator
>>5810934
It wasn't Sony of Japan (the real Sony) but rather a bunch of europeans who were responsible for the PS1 mini. Europeans don't know how program

[Anonymous No.5811219]

What is the appeal of mini consoles when raspberry pi and emulation boxes with retroarch exist?

[Anonymous No.5811224]

>>5809718
>and anyone even tangentially in the emu scene will see that as a negative
based fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.5811232]

>>5809670
Please nobody fall for this meme. Retropie fucking sucks.

[Anonymous No.5811236]

>>5809670
>>5811219
every fucking time. does rasberrypi have a dedicated shill team?

[Anonymous No.5811239]

>>5811048

[Anonymous No.5811241]

>>5811239
>anit-"eceleb" poster is a redditman poster

[Anonymous No.5811247]

>>5811236
The funny thing is RaspberryPis fucking suck for emulation and a computer is better in every way. I don't know what faggot youtuber started the "use them as an emulator box" meme but I hate them.

[Anonymous No.5811267]

>>5811218
Sony of Japan are the psychopathic penises though

[Anonymous No.5811268]

how long is the fucking controller cable jesus christ

[Anonymous No.5811270]

>>5811236
>does rasberrypi have a dedicated shill team?

no, that type of servile devotion comes for free when you sell to feeble brains

[Anonymous No.5811318]

How do rpis compare to misters? Why the fuck would you get a pi when the mister exists?

[Anonymous No.5811323]

>>5809574
>M2
>What did you expect, quality?
yes.

>>5809657
>The hackers will crack it and then a better emulator can be used anyway.

might as well get any other modern SBC or NUC in that case.

>>5809664
>firmware update
oh honey.

>>5809718
>and anyone even tangentially in the emu scene will see that as a negative.
are you confusing M2 with AtGames, by chance?

[Anonymous No.5811410]

>>5811236
Sorry you bought a shittier, weaker, HDMI-only dust collector so you could virtue your nerd cred.

[Anonymous No.5811434]

>>5810959
>posting bitter SEETHING nintoddler articles
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Anonymous No.5811448]

>>5811410
you really think that of the mister? damn

[Anonymous No.5811485]

Has anybody seen a review on either of the Asian models yet?

[Anonymous No.5811542]

>>5809532
I don't notice any audio lag on my SNES Classic.

[Anonymous No.5811568]

>>5811542
Irrelevant whether or not you noticed it.

[Anonymous No.5811637]

>>5811568
Well, is it there?

[Anonymous No.5811638]

>>5809678
It's easier to sync it for HDMI if they have the refresh at exactly 60Hz instead of the 59.9Hz of the original.

[Anonymous No.5811658]

>>5811318
what is mister?

[Anonymous No.5811882]

>>5811247
>The funny thing is RaspberryPis fucking suck for emulation and a computer is better in every way. I don't know what faggot youtuber started the "use them as an emulator box" meme but I hate them.
Pi emulation was meant for micro consoles and little tabletop/bartop systems, or even custom retro handhelds. It was never meant to compete with real PCs for emulation.

[Anonymous No.5811906]

>>5811247
>>5811882
That's the old way of thinking, back to when a computer would always outperform a less expensive one in emulation. cpu speed, ram and videocard are no longer an issue for emulating old consoles,. Now it's more like working out mathematical solutions to emulation, to getting the best input lag, the most accurate emulation. Genesis plus gx is considered probably the best genesis emulator and it's on the Wii, though it has been ported back to the PC. Stop living in the stone age or you'll end up like the old people who still think the Vietnam war is going on.

[Anonymous No.5811945]

>>5811906
You are talking about the pursuit of perfect emulation. I am talking about "good enough" emulation for small projects. The pi's only advantage is its tiny size and negligible power consumption.

Nothing authentic or even practical about pic related, just an example of "what can be done" vs "what should be done". That is often what the pi community is all about. Disregard the people who just run canned retropi on a factory pi case and do nothing else with it.

[Anonymous No.5811959]

>>5811945
>The pi's only advantage is its tiny size and negligible power consumption
It has native analog video out for CRT use. It's literally plug and play with old TVs. You could just admit that you don't own one instead of opening your cockholster and letting us know that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about in the most obnoxious way possible.

[Anonymous No.5811963]

>>5809532
They didn't note how the aspect ratio is not actually 4:3?

[Anonymous No.5811965]

>>5811485
The only difference is the game lineup.

[Anonymous No.5811970]

>>5811637
There is but only turbo artists notice.

[Anonymous No.5811973]

>>5811970
*autists

[Anonymous No.5811976]

>>5810959
lol /vr/ btfo

[Anonymous ~ No.5811978]

>>5811959
>native analog video out for CRT use. It's literally plug and play with old TVs.
Kinda pointless with emulation, and you can still buy old PC rigs/laptops with VGA out. Some old GPU boards also do composite video.

Until old PC hardware completely dies out, Retropi is pointless for people who just want to play the damn games.

[Anonymous No.5811984]

>>5811959
Your reading comprehension is fucked. I am saying the pi community does things harder, less efficiently, sometimes with laggy cheap lcd screens from china just because they can. "Haha I can play nintendo games on my flowerpot!"

I am happy you have a Wii or a PSP or whatever other hand me down to play old sega games on. I am just saying that isnt what the pi was ever meant for. It's not meant to replace a pc, a real console, or even these cashgrab mini consoles. I have no idea why this upsets so much.

[Anonymous No.5811989]

ummmm I already made a thread about this....>>5808915

[Anonymous No.5812024]

>>5811978
>let me buy an old pc and a vga to rca converter to poorly emulate old consoles instead of an rpi 4 and a zune cable
lol

[Anonymous No.5812039]

>>5812024
other than PC Engine, NES, SNES and Genesis what can pi 4 run with accuracy?

[Anonymous No.5812041]

>>5812039
PCSX-ReARMed with the based software neon renderer. An old pc sure as fuck doesn't have a 2k+ single threaded passmark to properly run everything on mednafen ps1 at fullspeed. Besides that, who cares? Gen 3, gen 4, and the only console that matters in gen 5 with great emulation that works on your existing sd crt straight out of the box with whatever usb or bluetooth controller you throw at it.

Now, before you continue to reply and make yourself look like a fucking mongoloid, consider the thread you're in, and what devices this is competing with.

[Anonymous No.5812215]

>>5811318
As soon as MISTer gets something equivilent to Final Burn Alpha I'll be in there.

[Anonymous No.5812361]

>>5809572
This plus Tetris and Mega Man NTSC

[Anonymous No.5812367]

>>5811318
>only sold in pieces by sketchy third party retailers
>zero name recognition outside of extremely niche fpga emu circles
Gee I wonder. Put all of the addons together, sell that shit on Amazon, make it Prime eligible, and we'll talk.

[Anonymous No.5812432]

>>5811247
I'm guessing it was the one who's too poor to get an old PC and was given a memeberry for free. That should narrow it down amirite?

>>5811906
>That's the old way of thinking, back when people used logic and science to do things. Not it's more like making up bullshit excuses to justify being a poor retarded zoomer
FTFYZ

[Anonymous No.5812514]

Not even the Genesis Mini, why would you buy this when you can get a Mega SG?

[Anonymous No.5812550]

>>5812041
Is this http://www.emucr.com/2017/04/pcsx-reloaded-git-20170426.html better than mednafen? also which version has PGXP enabled?
>>5812367
If genesis gx on retropie is 100% accurate why would we need it?

[Anonymous No.5812760]

>>5811247
I built a gameboy using pi CM3+. you have no idea how sick it is playing everything up to 4th gen on an OG gameboy, and no computer can come close to this thing when emulating GB, GBC, GBA, GameGear, Wonderswan, and every other old ass handheld, just by virtue of it being portable. even playing on a vita, psp, or switch isn't as fucking tits as holding a dmg-101 gameboy my man.

[Anonymous No.5812876]

>>5810974
Where have seen that? Look up Modern Vintage Gamer's Hands on with The Sega Genesis Mini video on YouTube. He actually takes it a part. He says it's a system on a chip that he's never seen before. It's a Zuiki Z7213. He says it's an allwinner system on a chip.

[Anonymous No.5812890]

>>5811218
But there own emulator might not be able to do anything but Genesis, that was my point. I'm really hoping that it can run PicoDrive at the least for 32X and CD, but Genesis Plus GX would be nice in addition to PicoDive for Master System and Game Gear. That's just what I want, I now others might want it to do every system under the sun the it's capable of doing. But if it can't do that, then a Sega Flashback running Genesis Plus GX is superior. Obviously I'm talking about those who want to hack official hardware, I have million devices that run this shit.

[Anonymous No.5812894]

>>5812876
so what if it is SoC? If people can crack Denuvo they can find a way to port Genesis GX or Blastem to that thing.

[Anonymous No.5812912]

>>5812894
Maybe, but it's lot harder to do then an ARM CPU and it might barely work.

[Anonymous No.5812923]

>>5812912
Hopefully M2 will release a patch to fix the 10 frame audio delay otherwise it's going to be an epic blunder worse than the PS1 mini. Their name will be in wall of shame alongside ATGames and Digital Eclipse (Backbone)

[Anonymous No.5812938]

My computer has Launchbox with a buch of emulation on it. But I'm trying to set up consoles for the TV experience. The PS2 is hacked and has a 2TB internal, The PS3 is hacked and has a 1TB internal and I'm adding a 1TB external. The Ps4 is just a PS4. The Wii is hacked with all GC games and a 100 Wii games on a 2TB external. The Wii U is hacked and has like 60 games on a 1TB. The 360 is RGH but I want to add a 2TB external. The VB1 is just an XB1. The NES mini is hacked with every NES, SNES, GB, GBC, and GBA. The PS Classic has the entire NA library on a 1TB. I need to add an OG Xbox with a 2TB and the complete collection. I also need a Dreamcast with the GDEmu and a Saturn with the Satiator when it comes out. I guess a TG16 Mini too, if it's hackable. Do you see why I need a Genesis that can run it's own content plus 32X and CD?

[Anonymous No.5812940]

>>5812938
I also have a PS vita hacked and a New 3DS. I have a GBA SP 101 with a ez flash omega. I use the GBA for Game Gear too.

[Anonymous No.5812943]

>>5812938
I forgot I got a N64 under all that but I haven't done much with it. I need better controllers and a Everdrive.

[Anonymous No.5812953]

Why can NOBODY get Genesis emulation right? Most of the system is off the shelf hardware.
Meanwhile the SNES is loaded out the ass with custom chips and there's cycle-accurate emulators for it.

[Sonic No.5812958]

>>5812953
Nintendo fans are more dedicated
Look how many more decent Mario hacks there are compared to almost no Sonic ones besides character swaps

[Anonymous No.5812964]

>>5812953
One thing that nobody can ever seem to figure out is replicating the Genesis sound. It’s always terrible, ends up sounding like a full board model 2, yuk!!!

Nothing can seem to match a model 1 HDG with sound from the headphones jack.

[Anonymous No.5813046]

>>5812953
Why is it always the dumbest motherfuckers who don't know shit about the scene that have the most to say about it?
https://github.com/ekeeke/Genesis-Plus-GX
https://github.com/libretro/blastem
>>5812964
Case in point for another retarded motherfucker. Beg me and I'll tell you how to get perfect model 1 sound out of GPGX.

[Anonymous No.5813071]

>>5812923
>Their name will be in wall of shame alongside ATGames and Digital Eclipse (Backbone)
Yeah, not quite. M2 actually has a good track record and are still releasing really good ports to this day (the recent shmup ports are among some of the best ports ever). One dud isn't going to ruin their reputation.
>>5812958
Mario has more decent romhacks because mario has much simpler level design compared to sonic.

[Anonymous No.5813094]

>>5812938
>he wasted money on real hardware and hard drive
>he didn't upgrade his LG tv to a based Panasonic, Sony or TCL

[Anonymous No.5813098]

>>5812953
Genesis emulation is better than SNES emulation. The issue is that ATGames and M2 decided to hire 2 vietnamese programmers to write their emulators

On a side note the tranny/furry mGBA programmer fixed the issues with his gba emulation by locking the internal emulator frame rate to 59.94fps instead of 60fps or vsync

[Anonymous No.5813102]

>>5813098
Stop posting mean things about endrift on /emugen/ you double nigger.

[Anonymous No.5813198]

>>5813071
>mfw you weren't even paid to shill as hard as you just shilled

[Anonymous No.5813265]

>>5813198
The slight truth in what he said is that Sonic is inherently difficult to make interesting levels for due to the genius mechanic of letting the player immediately grab rings again every time they get hit, thereby making it almost impossible to die.

[Anonymous No.5813272]

>>5813198
The slight truth in what he said is that Sonic is inherently difficult to make interesting levels for due to the genius mechanic of letting the player immediately grab rings again every time they get hit, thereby making it almost impossible to die by enemies in a normal situation.

[Anonymous No.5813326]

>>5813272
cringe

[Anonymous No.5813358]

>>5813272
That's why you have to design Sonic levels with pinball in mind, at least in part, for inspiration. Though the type of player who would play hacks would be "invincible" most of the time (completely untrue for normies and noobs tho), getting hit still knocks you back and kills your momentum.

[Anonymous No.5813585]

>>5811434
>UltraHLE
Who knew that 20 years later the emulation for the system would've barely progressed

[Anonymous No.5813592]

>>5809532
Good. Garbage as I expected.

I just ordered a TerraOnion Mega SD to use with my non-pozzed original MD.

[Anonymous No.5813682]

>>5812876
>it's an allwinner system on a chip
You know, just like the ones in the SNES and NES mini.
>>5812912
A SoC is just a CPU + some extra hardware. Pretty much all modern ARM CPUs are SoCs today

[Anonymous No.5813701]

>>5813592
Your original Genesis*

[Anonymous No.5813702]

>>5813701
And you call them Genesis, despite the fact that they are obviously Mega Drives?

[Anonymous No.5813713]

>>5813702
Yes, just like I refer to the NES and SNES as such and not "famicom" or "super famicom".

[Anonymous No.5813802]

>>5813682
>You know, just like the ones in the SNES and NES mini.
So, shit.

>>5813682
>A SoC is just a CPU + some extra hardware.
So it's shit

[Anonymous No.5813808]

>>5813802
Yes, it's similar to a raspberry pi. It will never be as powerful as a desktop PC

[Anonymous No.5813957]

>>5812912
actually all these SoCs are ARM systems by default, unless specified otherwise.

the only thing hard about modding the system is if at the end is gonna be possible or not, for all we know, Sega might actually have the first unhackable miniconsole. but as long as it uses the same base as every other miniconsole (which it does) there CAN be a chance by default.

[Anonymous No.5813960]

>>5813592
>Good. Garbage as I expected.
I expected garbage too, but how is that good?

[Anonymous No.5814001]

>>5813592
>TerraOnion
>the kind of company to start a MegaSD-preorder-campaign when they were located in Spain, just to silently move to Andorra before shipping them, which causes huge import-tax for Yurops.

[Anonymous No.5814120]

>>5813702
It's an Albany expression.

[Anonymous No.5814138]

>>5813960
Because it proves, despite what morons here and on REEEsetera think, that M2 are not infallable and are capable of putting out bad/sub-par products.
Though I already knew that when I got burned with their 3DS versions of Sonic 1 & 2 which had shit audio emulation. If you pass the goal post at the end of an act and you get an loud ear piercing screech then that means your in-house emulator needs more work.

[Anonymous No.5814201]

>>5814120
>steaming this hard

[Anonymous No.5814512]

>>5809532
Audio won't bother me too much and if the modding scene happens to surface like it has for past mini consoles it will likely be fixed.

[Anonymous No.5814708]

>>5814001
Fuck euro niggers.

[Anonymous No.5814803]

>>5809532
Well, to me, the audio lag is pretty much unnoticeable
I live in a 3rd world hell hole, so getting original Genesis consoles is almost impossible and they scalp the hell out of you, so I'm definitely getting this

[Anonymous No.5817018]

>>5809532
>2:03
>retrobit genesis controllers work
>retrobit saturn controllers don't
wtf

[Anonymous No.5818098]

>>5809553
>hating on GameSack
I'd rather not have people like you visit this board.

[Anonymous No.5818205]

>>5818098
>white knighting e-grifters
Cringe.

[Anonymous No.5818231]

>>5809532
>tfw has the original console in pristine condition still working with me
>tfw has no original controllers anymore

[Anonymous No.5818270]

>>5809532
How many times do we have to have these shill threads.
Of course its shit, but atleast it doesnt have 3 milseconds of lag like the nes and snes classic.
JUST USE A COMPUTER AND EMULATE OR BUYFAG IT UP AND GET THE ORIGINAL HARDWARE WITH SVIDEO OR SCRAT.
FUCK THESE DUDES.

[Anonymous No.5819849]

>>5814001
lol

[Anonymous No.5819859]

>>5818231
>tfw wondering why anon doesn't just buy another official controller.

[Anonymous No.5819869]

>>5818231
how is this even a problem?

[Anonymous No.5822190]

>>5813585
not much of a surprise, given that most of these shitters only tweak the works of others and act like they've accomplished a miracle

[Anonymous No.5822214]

>>5809593
>>5818098
>>5811048
>how dare you dislike muh based 40 year old autistic Game cuck jewtubers

[Anonymous No.5822541]

>>5819849
Does the Mega SD (or any other TO-product) even have a CE marking?
Fairly sure you can't import into the EU without one.
LEL.

[Anonymous No.5822551]

>>5814138
>hoping for a poor product to prove a point in a Taiwanese basket-weaving chatroom
Whatever floats your boat.

[Anonymous No.5822563]

>>5822214
Who do you think is the bottom?