/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5805414]

Explain what's so great about Nights Into Dreams's gameplay without using graphics, the state of contemporary titles on the Saturn, or "you had to be there".

[Anonymous No.5805420]

The graphics, and it's especially good compared to the state of contemporary titles on the Saturn. You had to be there really.

[Anonymous No.5805423]

>>5805414
It's been explained a million times, literally go read any review of it.

>but I disagree
Great, your opinion really isn't that relevant, many many people love it and you're free not to

>but I just must shit on this game somehow
>>>/v/ is that way because that's all you really want from these stupid threads

[Anonymous No.5805427]

>>5805420
Pretty much this. The graphics blew you away if you saw it in motion at launch. Just breathtaking, and it makes the gameplay so compelling.

[Anonymous No.5805436]

>>5805414
Perfect score attack game. With the exception of the acrobatic time exploit, high level play of NiGHTS looks cool and stylish, not riddled with glitching and exploiting the system.

NiGHTS is "flying Sonic", the same feeling of high-speed freedom now in the air. Excellent music with several different variations per stage.

[Anonymous No.5805447]

>>5805414
It's fun.

[Anonymous No.5805451]

>>5805414
It's a mixture of >>5805436 if you want an honest answer and >>5805423 if all you wanted is to shitpost.

[Anonymous No.5805472]

The music and the system that altered the music is still amazing.

The score attack thing is confusing in this day and age of tutorials, but it works great since it makes it easier to experience the game multiple times, also, there's nothing wrong with a game that's more an experience than pure graphics/gameplay.

[Anonymous No.5805568]

Movement feels really fucking good, and the whole game is about movement

[Anonymous No.5805570]

>>5805568
u can move NiGHTS body freery

[Anonymous No.5805770]

>>5805414
It's fun.

[Anonymous No.5805784]

>>5805770
This. People who say it isn't are usually the kind to just meander around the world not realizing they're supposed to be chaining links.

[Anonymous No.5805796]

>>5805784
By the way what was the point of playing as the kids? Surely you can check your nightopians but you can't interact with them.

[Anonymous No.5805817]

>>5805414
the fuckin name is super cool
like
what even is nights into dreams
wow

[Anonymous No.5805823]

It makes me happy

[Anonymous No.5805837]

>>5805796
A penalty for not getting back to the tower fast enough. Although you can grab some chips as the kids for a shortcut to bonus time on the first lap.

[Anonymous No.5805852]

>>5805837
Very good, in that case I admit I was wrong as I didn't know about that strat.

[Anonymous No.5805917]

>>5805414
It's smooth.
I have a few issues with the hyper-zoomed in camera (that just disguises the fact that the Saturn can't draw that much shit on screen), but otherwise, you're zipping around in 360 degrees through these crazy stages trying to keep your perfect line through the level and rack up points.
I do wish the bosses were less... annoying. Nothing like a perfect run killed because of some dumb bullshit on the boss giving you a low multiplier.

Not mentioning graphics is retarded too, because the game is pretty.
It's pretty for a Saturn game, but it's also pretty for a 1996 3D console game in general. Cool lighting effects, funky looking environments, and the game keeps a reasonable framerate (and just gives up on continuing to draw instead of dropping frames).

>>5805796
>By the way what was the point of playing as the kids?
It's how you get to walk around the levels in 3D, as kinda shitty as it is. Just being able to muck about and walk around in three dimensions was a selling point.

[Anonymous No.5805921]

>>5805917
I actually kinda like the bosses, although paralooping Gillwing's tail can fuck off.

[Anonymous No.5806246]

>>5805414
team sonic went out on a limb
took a creative risk & development of their "killer app"

i was completely floored playing this as a child @ the retail demo kiosk

you have no heart if you can't play this game to the final boss at least - its wonderful

few gaming systems invoke true happiness for me like the saturn did - i will never resell.

didnt pick up a saturn until adulthood +
researching & verifying the plethora of great shootemups available on the system

[Anonymous No.5806250]

>>5805414
Soul.

[Anonymous No.5806259]

>>5805784
Zoomer: The Sonic Game

[Anonymous No.5806261]

>>5806259
OY that's such an epic troll I'm confused what you're even trying to attack.

[Anonymous No.5806805]

>>5805414
It is unique in the gameplay department and the graphics were really different than what has released before and since then.

[Anonymous No.5806974]

>>5806259
>>>/v/.

[Anonymous No.5807094]

>>5805414
I didn't know they released this for Windows, how does it play?

[Anonymous No.5807302]

>>5807094
I made it 16 minutes in before dropping it. All style, no substance, and the style is clown vomit.

[Anonymous No.5807307]

>>5807302
Well that informed me absolutely nothing about the game. Might as well say >souless

[Anonymous No.5807317]

>>5805917
>I have a few issues with the hyper-zoomed in camera
Why don't you just play the game in 16:9? It supports it and looks great on a CRT or even a modern widescreen screen via an emulator.

[Anonymous No.5807321]

>>5807094
Analog controls literally had to be patched in after steam users exposed the fact that it didn't ship with analog movement of any kind. It feels markedly different to the Saturn game and movement isn't as weighty or smooth feeling.

[Anonymous No.5807330]

>>5807307
There's thousands of hours of youtube videos on it, so really there's nothing especially enriching you could find here than elsewhere. Pirate it and play it yourself, if you have first world internet you could have downloaded it and been playing it right now in a fraction of the space between your two posts.

[Anonymous No.5807678]

>>5805414
I like the music. The locales are pretty imaginative. The game controls very nice with the analog dome fitting the teme of an aerial acrobat within a dream. The game doesn't overstay its welcome and has a scoring system to encourage scoring runs or speeding through, however the player chooses to play. The two kids have slight variations on stages, which gives a bit of variety. In the end, like most Sega games, most may not like them, but I think they are pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.5807689]

>>5805784
This looks amazing.

[Anonymous No.5807935]

>>5805414
It's by Sonic Team, so it is automatically defended by a horde of autists despite being a painfully mediocre game.

The score attack concept is fun, but it falls apart when you realize all you have to do is to fly over the goalpost to do another loop for more scores.

[Anonymous No.5807940]

>>5805427
>>5805420
Woah. so it like, didnt age well. crazy how thats a meme on /vr/

[Anonymous No.5807946]

>>5807940
>>5807935
see>>5805423

[Anonymous No.5808191]

Why does this game blast so many peoples booties

[Anonymous No.5808193]

>>5807935
You're kidding, right? That's the intention. Why else would "Bonus Time" be awarded in the first place? Did you seriously just rush back to the tower as soon as you touched the capsule?

[Anonymous No.5808194]

The Wii sequel is better. Not even trolling.

[Anonymous No.5808530]

>>5805414
the kinaesthetics of controlling NiGHTS in flight with the original "eyeball" Saturn analogue pad were phenomenal. it really does replicate the feeling of flying in a dream

[Anonymous No.5808661]

>>5808194
it seemed like an abomination


the cutscenes hurt physically to watch

[Anonymous No.5809692]

>>5807935
>The score attack concept is fun, but it falls apart when you realize all you have to do is to fly over the goalpost to do another loop for more scores.
This is the entire point. There's a reason everything gets put back when you loop around again.

>>5808193
>Did you seriously just rush back to the tower as soon as you touched the capsule?
A lot of people did.

>>5807321
>Analog controls literally had to be patched in after steam users exposed the fact that it didn't ship with analog movement of any kind
Sega has a bad habit of fucking this up.
Crazy Taxi on Steam needs a separate patch for analog control too.

[Anonymous No.5809698]

>>5808194
I really want to play it, but... >>5808661 is right. All the extra padding shit they added looks like ass (also, I don't have a Wii anymore).
which is a shame, because everything about the main NiGHTS gameplay actually does look like a straight improvement

[Anonymous No.5809763]

>>5808194
The time it took to get to an actual level was made more painful by how cringe the cutscenes were.

[Anonymous No.5810168]

>>5808194
I agree with this but
>have to watch GODAWFUL cutscenes to get to the game
Is it really worth it?

[Anonymous No.5810175]

Oh look, this fucking thread again.... Go fuck yourself, OP, you redundant cunt.

[Anonymous No.5810606]

>>5809698
I like the Wii version quite a bit, mostly because all of the new sub-games retain the scoring system, which adds some good replay value. However, I think the base "Chase Mission" levels are a lot weaker than the Saturn NiGHTS. The "line" for keeping the link chain going is a lot more straightforwards and simple.

Rodea on Wii is good fun too, although the last boss is currently making me want to fucking kill myself.