Tomb Raider peaked at The Last Revelation

[Anonymous No.5791154]

Whole adventure set in Egypt makes a lot of sense - no more random jumps all around the world. There's less gunfight and much more exploration. Non-linear levels requiring backtracking and puzzle often based on Egyptian mythology give an unforgettable experience.

[Anonymous No.5791163]

I agree, but I'm not a fan of the brown tone of the game, I actually like the variety of locations from the previous games

[Anonymous No.5791220]

>>5791154
>Cairo levels
God fucking damn confusing.

[Anonymous No.5791263]

It peaked with the first game but Last Revelation was a phenomenal revitalization of the series before it fell off a cliff

[Anonymous No.5791275]

I think the first three crystal dynamics games were pretty good, especially anniversary, which i considered the best video game remake to date before bluepoint's amazing shadow of the colossus remake.

[Anonymous No.5791281]

>>5791275
1. Not retro
2. They fucking sucked

[Anonymous No.5791440]

>>5791275
those were shit

[Anonymous No.5791449]

>>5791154
CORE Tomb Raider games in general are comfy as all hell. The one I legitimately don't like is TR5.
I don't even hate AoD come to think of it, because you can tell there is a really good game trying to get out and I respect CORE for what they were trying to do.

[Anonymous No.5791528]

>>5791154
Nah, it had a brief recovery with Last Revelation. It peaked with the first game.

[Anonymous No.5791545]

>>5791275
>especially anniversary, which i considered the best video game remake to date

Ewww really? I mark it as almost as bad as Twin Snakes, especially the QTE bits. Underworld is the only non retro one I thought did justice to the franchise.

[Anonymous No.5791570]

>>5791154
Based. Also really nice graphically especially on dreamcast. I don't think it ever received the appreciation it deserves, possibly due in part to an abundance of great games around 1999/2000, and some started to take the Tomb Raider series for granted. An underrated game for sure.

[Anonymous No.5791667]

>>5791154
It started off well, but then the levels became too confusing for their own good.

[Anonymous No.5791739]

>>5791154
Gee anon, it's like they literally decided to make the last Tomb Raider and go out in a bang... it's been 20 years, nigger. The fact you are somehow unaware of it, yet still play Core-era TRs is just fucking insulting.

[Anonymous No.5791745]

>>5791275
Anniversary was everything wrong with modern remakes of old titles.
And like the other anon said, Underworld is so far the only TR not made by Core that got it all right, even if the plot is just plain annoying bullshit drama

[Anonymous No.5791883]

Tomb Raider peaked with the Nude Raider mod.

With that said, however:
>play original TR
>run against a wall
>Lara stops herself with her hands
>technology.jpeg
>play Anniversary
>run against a wall
>Lara doesn't stop herself, the running animation just keeps looping like I'm playing Q3

It's little details like this that made the original TR so good that are completely lacking in the CR games.

[Anonymous No.5791929]

>>5791281
>>5791440
>>5791545
>>5791745
Okay grandpa. Take a nap.

[Anonymous No.5791970]

>>5791929
>Been told by various people the game is shit
>N-no, it can't be
Nigga, Anni is literally TR1 stripped of anything even resembling complexity, tucked-in QTEs and it's actively dumbing down everything from the original. The only bits of Anni that are good are the timed puzzles, but it's undermined by the fact most of the moves are automated anyway, so you can't fucking fail them, unless you have cerebral palsy

[Anonymous No.5791973]

>>5791667
Yup. For me when Lara gets to Alexandria I stop playing. It's when the game becomes a chore.

[Anonymous No.5791990]

>>5791973
... so you drop the game where the actual fun begins?
I mean I get WHY most people drop out by Alexandria, but this really is where the fun begins

[Anonymous No.5792002]

>>5791154
>coastal ruins levels
>when outside you can hear seagulls and the seashore in the background
K I N O

[Anonymous No.5792015]

>>5791667
>>5791973
I always have to force myself to go through Karnak levels. They aren't bad, they are just... tedious, I guess? Rest of the game is fine, but those few levels of the temple complex always get me winded out

[Anonymous No.5792042]

>comfy intro level with young Lara
>Von Croy being a two faced bastard
>Seth vs Horus deepest lore
>2spooky4me blood sarcophagus
>levels where you feel like a master archeologist
>but also levels where you feel like an action hero
>ominous as fuck final act
>Lara fails to destroy Seth AND fucking dies

Story-wise it's the best Tomb Raider game

[Anonymous No.5793032]

>>5791929
Hey man I always wanted Tomb Raider to get good again. The first one is still one of my favorite games. It just didn't happen.

[Anonymous No.5793174]

>no properly finished and fixed version of Angel of Darkness with a sequel to end the series

[Anonymous No.5793178]

>>5791275
I agree, only Anniversary's "superior" voice acting sounds like Hollywood acting, and less natural than the original, where the VAs supposedly did not even try.

[Anonymous No.5793637]

>>5793174
Have you at least tried the Polish patched up re-release?

[Anonymous No.5793923]

>>5793637
Such a thing exists?

[Anonymous No.5793940]

>>5793923
Nigger... Where were you when Aragorn spread His wisdom and provided us all with all CORE TRs, including Gold?
The links are dead now, but I can always re-upload

[Anonymous No.5793943]

>>5793940
Speaking of which - damn you all for letting those links die. I was out for over a month, came back and guess what? Nobody downloaded for 30 days, so zippyshare just pruned the files

[Anonymous No.5793958]

>>5793940
Not everybody knows everything.

[Anonymous No.5793980]

>>5793958
>Apparently not everyone in TR threads is checking /vr/ regularly for TR content
ftfy
I will try to upload patched-up AoD in the morning, it's midnight now and I didn't sleep since Tuesday morning

[Anonymous No.5794216]

>>5793980
Please do, I'm planning on playing that.

[Anonymous No.5794251]

>>5793980
>>5794216
I don't think I can actually play that right now on anything, but I will definitely save it.

[Anonymous No.5794605]

>>5794216
>>5794251
Ok, so give it right now 9 hours, as I'm leaving to work.

[Anonymous No.5794657]

>>5794605
I'll wait for 99.

[Anonymous No.5795223]

>>5794657
Ok, finally back home, upload starts

[Anonymous No.5795531]

>>5793943
yeah, well, people don't search the archived in hope of finding links to vidya-uploads unless they know they can find those kinds of links.

or they are added to the OPs of general-threads.

[Anonymous No.5796012]

>>5794216
>>5794251
>>5795531
Sorry it took so damn long, my net was throwing a fit. Putting it all together once more:

>TR1 + GOLD (Unfinished Business)
https://www98.zippyshare.com/v/zpVQkM6R/file.html

>TR2 + GOLD (The Golden Mask)
https://www98.zippyshare.com/v/h0qnmvTC/file.html

>TR3
https://www98.zippyshare.com/v/i9aiLpDd/file.html

>TR3 GOLD (The Lost Artifact)
https://www98.zippyshare.com/v/yVgm2Zy5/file.html

>TR: The Last Revelation (TR4)
https://www98.zippyshare.com/v/dsMXorLH/file.html
https://www98.zippyshare.com/v/JvVwYemC/file.html
You need both, since zippyshare had 500 MB limit and the full installer weights 577 MB

>TR: Chronicles (TR5)
https://www98.zippyshare.com/v/pp2SBOdf/file.html

>TR: Angel of Darkness (TR6)
https://www98.zippyshare.com/v/3fexzeDu/file.html
https://www98.zippyshare.com/v/OeT8QlfV/file.html
https://www98.zippyshare.com/v/S32fWCPI/file.html
https://www98.zippyshare.com/v/0BDecZTs/file.html
You need all four, for the same reason

[Anonymous No.5796138]

>>5796012
Thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.5796186]

>>5791275
>bluepoint's amazing shadow of the colossus remake
what the actual fuck
how can a man be this wrong

[Anonymous No.5796226]

>>5796186
It's a bait, man.
It has to be.

[Anonymous No.5796228]

reminder that the anniversary remake fucked up the atlantis levels.

[Anonymous No.5796325]

>>5796012
I really want to know what exactly got patched in TR6, and how. Also, can I play the game with a controller? With a stick?

[Anonymous No.5796345]

>>5796228
I don't remember not liking them.

[Anonymous No.5796875]

>>5796228
As if only that... entire Peru got fucked up, too. The only thing that wasn't was Greece and some bits from Egypt

[Anonymous No.5796880]

>>5796325
https://pastebin.com/evZ69cQZ

[Anonymous No.5796916]

>>5796880
That's semi-useful, but are any cut moves or animation or items re-instated?

Also, found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB1z0PzZv1Y

[Anonymous No.5796929]

>>5796916
Anon, as far as anyone is concerned, AoD in that release contains all official and all unofficial patches that were made up until '09 mark. Thus making it the best release of AoD that is out there

[Anonymous No.5796963]

>>5796012
Thanks Anon, you're doing god's work.

[Anonymous No.5796975]

>>5796929
....... for now.

[Anonymous No.5797054]

Opinion on Crazy Croft?

[Anonymous No.5797283]

>>5797054

[Anonymous No.5797312]

>>5797283
It's a YT series, on hiatus or probably dead (but it had a good run).

[Anonymous No.5797434]

>>5792015
>I always have to force myself to go through Karnak levels
These are the essence of Tomb Raider. You are given a huge ancient complex, and it's up to you to figure it out.
>>5791973
Alexandiria was great too but I fucking hated Cairo.

[Anonymous No.5797829]

>>5796012
BASED

[Anonymous No.5797961]

>>5796975
>Implying Squenix even recognises the potential Core TRs and LAU have financially

[Anonymous No.5798283]

>>5797961
What went wrong with LAU? I thought it was a nice combination of old ideas with new execution.

[Anonymous No.5798496]

>>5797961
>don't know what's LAU

[Anonymous No.5798516]

>>5791739
>Core-era TRs
There is nothing after these. The new ones don't exist and neither do you.

[Anonymous No.5798539]

>>5798283
>LAU
Not retro, but long story short, Lara feels like a circus acrobat in those games.

[Anonymous No.5798567]

>>5798496
FUCK, just figured it out.

>>5798539
It is a reboot, who cares about the differences? It's a separate canon.

[Anonymous No.5799061]

>>5798283
Original anon here and for me what went wrong was not enough time to develop those. Not in terms of crunch-time put into production (but this also was a problem, as they've did a rush job for both Anni and Underworld), but simply time spend with the series as such. Crystal Dynamics didn't really grasp what the fuck they should be doing until Underworld and when they finally did...
... reboot happend, while in the same time most of the "experienced" staff got fired from the company.
As for each game separately, first of all - not retro. Then:
>Legend
Too short, too simplified, too much (dull) combat, QTEs. I always give it a pass simply because I consider it to be a tech demo under new company
>Anniversary
How to NOT make a remake: 101. They just fucked up EVERYTHING there was to fuck up, streamlining levels, putting retarded boss fights (T-Rex was probably the worst offender) and fucking up Lara herself. The only non-bad part was acrobatics in Greece, but they are undermined by problematic controls
>Underworld
Camera is off the hook. Levels are either great (Thailand, Mexico) or dog-shit bad, with nothing in-between.

>>5798567
>who cares about the differences
... everyone who played Core games? Where the hell you think you are?

[Anonymous No.5799090]

>>5799061
I like both, I am a chad.

[Anonymous No.5799158]

>>5799090
I care about differences and yet like them. What now, Brad-Posing-To-Be-Chad?

[Anonymous No.5799895]

>>5796012
>dear diary,
>today, anon did good.

[Anonymous No.5800156]

>>5796012
Based Aragorn poster. The GOLD ones are priceless

[Anonymous No.5800174]

>>5800156
(even though CORE did not do those bonus levels)

[Anonymous No.5800297]

>>5800174
They are priceless, because you can't get GOLD anywhere

[Anonymous No.5800314]

imagine how good the CORE tr1 remake could be if it was finished.

[Anonymous No.5800320]

>>5800314
Rumor has it they did finish Greece and Egypt part of it into playability. Dunno about Peru and Atlantis

[Anonymous No.5800323]

>>5800314
I would rather prefer if the ORIGINAL TR1 was more polished. I played it earlier this year, and it was almost great. But it's rough.

[Anonymous No.5800348]

>>5800314
It wasn't that impressive judging by that video. I kinda understand why eidos decided to give it to CD.

[Anonymous No.5800676]

>>5800348
>give it to the people that you personally kicked out
>admit you were ever wrong
Dear dear, producers don't do that.

[Anonymous No.5801031]

Might as well post these.

[Anonymous No.5801034]

Neat little touch. If you speedrun, you can catch the wolves sleeping.

[Anonymous No.5801150]

>>5800348
>I kinda understand why eidos decided to give it to CD
... because laywers told them so?
How fucking dense are you, you fucking moron?

[Anonymous No.5802395]

>>5791154

TR 1996
TR2 1997
TR3 1998
TRLR 1999
TRC 2000

Was Tomb Raider the Assassin's Creed of the PS1 era?

[Anonymous No.5802398]

>>5802395
Strong female lead in action adventure was a winning formula then.
>Select all squares with buses If there are none, click skip

[Anonymous No.5803072]

>>5802395
Without PC bullshit and pretentious writing.

[Anonymous No.5803161]

Best Lara death/peril?
For me it's Midas hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-qA-txhUk

[Anonymous No.5803178]

>>5803161
I try not to die in videogames.

[Anonymous No.5803181]

>>5803178
Same but TR games were known for Lara's bizarre deaths. Developers put a lot effort to them.

[Anonymous No.5803209]

>>5791154
It's a good game but I don't like that it's nothing but Egypt stages. I liked the variety of 1-3

[Anonymous No.5803237]

>>5791745
>Anniversary was everything wrong with modern remakes of old titles.

Core was originally making a 10th anniversary Tomb Raider remake for the PSP. Their remake was going to have a control scheme that would have been more like the original game, but with enhancements, like use of the analog nub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2SjHGjfsP4

[Anonymous No.5803290]

>>5803237
I take What Should Have Been for 9,000.

[Anonymous No.5803302]

>>5803290
Elder Scrolls Travels: Oblivion would have been a nice psp game too.

[Anonymous No.5803330]

>>5803161
Quicksand, TR3. Many faps were had. :3

Too bad other games didn't have it. Egypt in TR4 would've been a prime location.

[Anonymous No.5803342]

>>5803330
Did not play 3 yet. Are those just traps at the bottom, or does Lara sink and drown with time?

[Anonymous No.5803594]

>>5803342
She drops down about waist deep, then begins to sink slowly, and eventually disappears under the surface completely, at which point her oxygen bar appears, as if she were diving. If it runs out, she drowns. You can extricate her, if you manage to find solid ground in time, but she cannot swim in the muck, it's too heavy. She can only walk around slowly at the floor, and if you can't find a shallow spot where she could plop her head out to catch her breath, she's kill.

(This fucker gave me a quicksand fetish!)

[Anonymous No.5803627]

>>5803594
Well, having a death fetish must be horrible. Glad I'm not you.

[Anonymous No.5803790]

>getting off to bad stuff that can happen to Lara
Wew, lad.

[Anonymous No.5803827]

>>5802395
Yes, and don't forget the expansion packs for the PC versions of 1, 2, 3.

[Anonymous No.5804007]

Which one had those swarms of beetles that come after you? That was where I stopped playing. I remember there was a lot of Egypt stuff which was cool but either the level design was bad or I was just burnt out on the TR formula but everything about it was kind of annoying. The beetles were just a pest and there were all those weird ninja dudes.

[Anonymous No.5804039]

>>5804007
It was exactly tr4: the last revelation.

[Anonymous No.5804041]

>>5804039
Cool art.

[Anonymous No.5804045]

>>5804039
I wondered if it might have been. Sure wasn't the peak fir me I guess. I do remember the ninja guys being more interesting than most TR enemies had been but there were so many of them.

[Anonymous No.5804064]

>>5804039

[Anonymous No.5804668]

>>5791883
>Tomb Raider peaked with the Nude Raider mod.
this

[Anonymous No.5804672]

>>5798283
this is what a remake should look like. Don't fucking make her bewbs smaller you fucking shit noobs!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.5804695]

>>5802395
Most zoomers like to pretend that the TR games weren't literal shovelware by the third game just because Lara had big boobs. I don't hate a single retro fanbase more than TRs because it's primarily made up of legitimate cumbrains a lot of which haven't even played the games and it's very obvious when you bring up any criticism of them and they have no idea how to respond to it. The rest just can't let their first waifu go and try to pretend these games aren't as janky and outdated as Syphon Filter

[Anonymous No.5804719]

5804695
(you)

[Anonymous No.5804725]

5804695
or maybe they just like the games you fucking tard.

[Anonymous No.5804754]

>>5804725
I'm not denying they like the games, I'm saying the series is and was always shit and their enjoyment is based entirely on being 9 years old and Lara giving them their first tingly feeling in their pants. The games themselves are awful and were eclipsed completely even in their own genre and generation by games like soul reaver.
It's a fanbase of "hurrrr me see big tiddy" like >>5804672

[Anonymous No.5804820]

5804754
last (you) will get from me.

[Anonymous No.5804863]

>>5804039
This is fucking great.

[Anonymous No.5805609]

>>5804672
Sorry, cowtits are not for me.

[Anonymous No.5805624]

>>5791154
Where is the Anniversary version of Tomb Raider 2?

[Anonymous No.5805643]

>>5805624
In an alternate universe.

[Anonymous No.5805946]

>>5805624
http://tombraider-dox.com/
You can thank Squenix for this project being in a perpetual limbo now

[Anonymous No.5806263]

>>5804672
Those legs look weird.

[Anonymous No.5806703]

>>5804672
TR4 got a fanremake??!!?

[Anonymous No.5806848]

>>5800297
Lmfao you can get them for pennies on Amazon, they're hardly rare collectibles.

[Anonymous No.5806940]

>>5806848
>Paying money for retro games
>Collecting physical copies
Please tell me you are neither of those people

[Anonymous No.5807070]

>>5806940
Why should anyone ever listen to you?

[Anonymous No.5807151]

>>5804695
> try to pretend these games aren't as janky and outdated as Syphon Filter

Bullshit, SF is far from being janky,it had some cool auto aiming mechanics for dynamic combat and manual aiming as well.

It had a few of technology moments, destructible and interactive environment and nice secrets that required you to spot and climb stuff.

That game hold up even today and if by outdated you mean there are games that improved on mechanics earlier 3D games were only starting to touch on, then yes but even then, SF is still great and have better stealth than many modern games despite being just as adequate a shooter and an action game.

Controls are also far from being janky even by today standards, I am pretty sure more people had issues playing GTA IV than they would have playing SF.

I could go on like this but I will just outline the main points of my arguments bellow.

1 Basically you just fucking retarded.
2 See the point above

Also, in case of TR, tank controls was part of the puzzle and the thing that allowed to take those long jumps from sprint confidently or those back/sideways jumps on slopped segments.

The whole game just very well thought out. Distance between jumps and traps and switches is measured carefully and length of the steps Lara take is part of the puzzle.

Same shit in Abe's Exodus/Odyssey, in Odyssey you can run the last level with your eyes closed just because you know how large a step Abe gonna take or where he jumps and lands.

The whole tank control in TR games is what allowed for precise navigation across all those puzzles and platforms.

See point one and two

[Anonymous No.5808261]

>>5807151
>Eating the bait with the fishing rod
Nigga

[Anonymous No.5809106]

Is there a mod to fix TR AoD?

[Anonymous No.5809167]

>>5809106
A partial fix was posted ITT already. There are attempt to fix it more, and include unused animations and whatnot, but that is all WIP by very few people.

[Anonymous No.5809410]

>>5809106
There's a patch that improves the controls and restores graphical features missing from the PS2 version, it's what I used when I played through it recently.


https://sites.google.com/site/tombraideraoddecompiling/modifications/executable-mods/fixed-controls

The biggest change is that it fixes the bug where Lara has to walk before she can run. It also increases her run speed, fixes the bug where she can't use any of her moves on stairs, restores some moves that were inexplicably cut from the PC port (like the ability to turn around in place or turn 180 degrees while running) and adds some new moves (like the ability to do quick 90 degree turns, which is something I wish could be patched into the PS1 era games)

[Anonymous No.5810334]

>>5809410
How is an older release based on a newer build?

[Anonymous No.5810784]

>>5809410
Does it return her second pistol?

[Anonymous No.5811276]

>>5809410
nice

[Anonymous No.5811278]

It's a nice game but the first stage tutorial in this is the most unnecessarily long winded boring thing maybe in all of tomb raider, nuTomb Raider doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.5811310]

>>5811278
They decided to get rid of Croft manor for story-telling reasons. And Eidos demanded that ok, no tutorial zone, make tutorial level then.

[Anonymous No.5811327]

>>5811310
>getting rid of one of the most iconic features of the series for muh story that nobody cares about
>instead making the first level a 40 minute shitshow of stop and go menial tutorial tasks
This is the type of boneheaded out of touch mindset that led to what the series would eventually become years later

[Anonymous No.5811393]

>>5811327
>Being this kind of a retard
>Posting on /vr/ anyway
You know TLR was literally "FUCK YOU ALL" by Core... right? I mean everyone knows that, 20 years in.

[Anonymous No.5811435]

>>5804672
sauce?

[Anonymous No.5811775]

Early Tomb Raider games: PC or PS1?

[Anonymous No.5811818]

>>5811775
PC all the way

[Anonymous No.5811838]

>>5791929
Based

[Anonymous No.5811854]

>>5796012
Are these ready to play? I mean, do I need extra patches for controls, FMVs, audio files, resolutions or shit like that?

Regardless, you did good anon.

[Anonymous No.5811887]

>>5811854
Yeah, those are retail versions ready to go. Already configured to work on modern systems, with all the patches, expansions and fixes you might need. That includes widescreen. Just install and play.

[Anonymous No.5811904]

>>5811887
>today, anon was not a faggot

[Anonymous No.5812378]

>>5810784
Didn't seem like it, unless they were a secret that I missed.

[Anonymous No.5813182]

>>5796012
magnet links
magnet links

[Anonymous No.5813347]

>>5811775
PS1. PAL PS1, to avoid stretched image.

[Anonymous No.5813364]

>>5796186
>bluepoint's amazing shadow of the colossus remake
wait what, that's a thing? I thought the game just got an HD remaster

[Anonymous No.5813389]

>>5791929
I agree with you dude. The remake is easier to play. Sorry dudes but I never got good at oldschool Womb Raider, and I'm a 32 year old boomer. Though that was mostly because my mom confiscated the game from me because she was offended by Lara Croft's big tits on the cover.

Anyway, I can't get into the older games today, they're awkward to play now. Anniversary and that game just before it when Lara first came to the 360 gen, those were dope, fuck the other boomers.

[Anonymous No.5813416]

>>5813389
Honestly I had more problems in anni in those grappling hook segments than the original TR.

[Anonymous No.5813420]

>>5813389
You basically describe the arc of Tomb Raider and why it was doomed to die the horrible death it did. The first game is very much a puzzle-platformer and makes no bones about it. The core gameplay is surviving and figuring out the puzzles. The controls seem stiff and odd, but it's because of the way the platforming is designed. If the main character had been some generic dude it probably would have stayed the same but also obscure.

But because Lara was an icon due to marketing about how thrilling it was to play a hot busty Indiana Jones type the game got a lot of attention. But most people don't actually like the kind of game the original Tomb Raider was going for. So they make it less puzzle focused and more action trying to entice new players into the series. By the time they got to the remake they made it as much like an action game as possible and added a bunch of quicktime events.

[Anonymous No.5813649]

>>5813364
Normies demand more polygons and more pixels and moar grafix in general. A remaster won't cut it.

[Anonymous No.5813656]

>>5813389
Actually it's shit gamers like you who are the reason video games, in general, died across all genres.

[Anonymous No.5813657]

>>5811393
The premise of the thread is that it's a great game, which is what is being called into question with the poor design choices.
>haha you're retarded don't you know it's supposed to be shit
fuck off and actually read the thread before responding

[Anonymous No.5813754]

>>5811327
It was a notable feature, but hardly integral to the overall experience. It makes sense to leave it out if it made no sense for the story but they should have made the tutorial level optional anyways. They also should have made the rest of the game better overall but we're already into dreamland.

[Anonymous No.5815015]

>>5813420
The change in game content comes from the simple fact Core had to churm up another of those in 8 months, on yearly basis, four years in a row, while having (at the peak) half the manpower they needed.
So they were cutting corners, because they literally had to.

It always annoys me when people overthink the whole "why TR was dropping in quality", when it's a common fucking knowledge since the tail end of the 00s how fucking horrible it was to actually make those games for the various teams behind it.

>>5813657
>haha you're retarded don't you know it's supposed to be shit
>fuck off and actually read the thread before responding
The sheer level of irony of your post is pretty much lethal.
The point was this game was a send-off, you complete imbecile. They've killed Lara in it on the purpose of finally being free from making more of those games.
And yet here you are, illiterate, dense and aggressive about it.

[Anonymous No.5816227]

>>5815015
Core staff was changed after every game though and by tr4 it were different people.

[Anonymous No.5816468]

>>5815015
>The change in game content comes from the simple fact Core had to churm up another of those in 8 months, on yearly basis, four years in a row

While that's also true, the change in focus still doomed the series even if they had had the time and manpower.

[Anonymous No.5817835]

>>5816227
No it didn't. What happend was the original team quitting after TR2, doesn't mean every game was made by different people. And some of them came back later, too. In fact, people who were "Team B" working on TR2 were the people who made TR3, 4 and 5, while also observing first and second hand what working on those games does to you and your personal life. Like when you spend 18 hours/day in a house rented for offices and then sleep on your desk, so you won't waste time on commuting. All becauseof a contract signed before even the first game was made, perpetually keeping the series as "paid for commission" state, where they weren't given a single penny until the game was finished and then given just a shitty percentage of profit. Not sales, profit. Which we all know how can be easily manipulated.

>>5816468
The change of focus wouldn't fucking happen if they had the time and manpower, because they could still be toying around with puzzles and levels, aka what they were wanting to do with TR2. Guess what didn't happen, since they had 8 months to make it. Or rather 7, since they first were trying to baby-sit Gard through the process, so he would stick with the team. Guess what also failed.
Jesus, this is all open, common knowledge for years at this point. And from all places, /vr/ should be one of the most informed about this shit. I mean my fucking nephew, who is barely of legal age, knows all about this thanks to the 20th anniversary extensive interviews, despite, you know, being younger than the series.

[Anonymous No.5819606]

>>5817835
Unrelated anon, I should read that interview.

[Anonymous No.5819650]

>>5813389
LAU is much harder for me to play because of all the acrobatics, rope swinging, etc. I can never seem to get a grasp on them.

[Anonymous No.5819652]

>>5819650
You can master the games if you wanted to.

[Anonymous No.5819659]

>>5811775
PC any day. Infinite saves is essential for stuff like Tomb Raider III.

[Anonymous No.5819747]

>>5819606
Interviews. Plural. There have been at least three large, long, winded interviews by Core squad and various related people. And a lot more of shorter, less exhausting ones, too.

[Anonymous No.5821113]

I'm having an issue with Last Revelation that I can't find any fixes for.

When I first open the game nothing happens. I have to open task manager, close tomb4.exe, then if I open the game again it works just fine. There's gotta be a way to make the game work without having to do this every time.

[Anonymous No.5821127]

>>5813656
Kay

[Anonymous No.5821151]

>>5791154
All ps1 tomb raiders are good. Everything after is worthless

[Anonymous No.5821154]

>>5821113
Try this:
Right click on TR Last Revelation, select properties, set launch options, type -setup.exe, click OK and then close and try to relaunch.

[Anonymous No.5821994]

>>5821151
The trilogy reboot is fine, don't blow it out of proportions.

[Anonymous No.5822120]

>>5817835
>The change of focus wouldn't fucking happen if they had the time and manpower

I think it still would have. TR2 might have had better puzzles but they'd still gave been in shitty areas like London fighting goons.

[Anonymous No.5822612]

>>5821994
>Tech Demo
>Everything Wrong With Modern Remakes: The Game!
>Decent Raider
They are meh as a whole and the only one that's really worth playing more than one-time-list-scratching is Underworld.

>>5822120
And that assumption is based on... what exactly? I mean let's make a short mental check:
1) Gard is still in
2) the original squad still works on it
3) they have all the time and manpower they need
4) ...
5) somehow shitty city raider areas full of combat still happen

[Anonymous No.5822659]

>>5822612
>And that assumption is based on... what exactly?
>5) somehow shitty city raider areas full of combat still happen

Yeah because everything you described comes down to how well the game would have been put together, not design choices like urban environments and more action. With more manpower and time it would have been a better version of what we got but it still would have been the same basic shit.

[Anonymous No.5823761]

>>5811278
>>5811327
Am I the only one who thinks the tutorial level was cozy as fuck?

[Anonymous No.5824886]

>>5821154
Tried it, didn't work. Trying all the compatibility settings didn't work either.

[Anonymous No.5824971]

>>5796012
Thanks. But from TR4, the second .rar file doesn't even open, gives an error. Game seems to work fine though with only the first .rar, which makes me wonder what's inside the second? You could have cut down alot on size by removing the FMVs (300mb).

[Anonymous No.5825415]

>>5824971
>gives an error
?

[Anonymous No.5826629]

>>5823761
I like it too.

[Anonymous No.5826758]

Installed and played through The Lost Artifact today. I only had played the first maps demo before.
The whole thing took some 8 hours with all reloads and secrets searching.

Maps were pretty interesting and cool. Scotland was super comfy and the secret areas were worth looking for. The sword wielding scots and rusty submarine were awesome to find.

The lack of /any/ story telling at all was odd. Yeah you could follow the plot somewhat, but it gets confusing towards the end.

Plot summary how I remember it
>Lara breaks into private property, kills guards and dogs, while searching for artifact.
>artifact is gone already, only radioactive goo that it makes is left behind

>In London Lara heads to the metro construction area, slaughtering workers and guards on her way to find goo spewing artifact.
>walks on, and later swims in middle of radioactive cancer goo
>sees once again human experiments, this time, cancer goo is used on humans to turn them into fish-people things?
>proceed to stuff the radioactive, cancer goo artifact in her swimsuit

>time to visit zoo in middle of night and murder all the animals
>the fuck Lara?

>gets bad trip from all the cancer goo and proceeds to lay on a beach
>has lovecraft tier hallucination dream where she fights tribals and her dead nemesis in another dimension
>wakes up to random old guy landing hot air balloon on the beach.
>The End


I need to try Revelation again, for some reason I stopped playing during the first map.

How's Chronicles compared to T1,2 and 3?
And do I miss anything if I skip AoD?