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What are your thoughts on Hexen?

>> No.5779531

Pretty Satanic

>> No.5779543

>>5779525
>one sixth of the puzzle has been solved
>a door opens somewhere
Fuck that shit, I prefer Hexen 2 thank you very much

>> No.5779548

>>5779543
but would you say the first is still worth playing?

>> No.5779593

Bought II the other day after never having heard of it, played a shit ton. Love the idea of an RPG in the Quake engine

>> No.5779602

>>5779543
2 is way worse with that shit.

>> No.5779625
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5779625

>search the whole level for the brown switch in the corner of two brown walls behind a brown tree if you want to continue
>"a door has been unlocked somewhere"
>"a fourth of the puzzle has been solved"

>> No.5779627

>>5779543
>>5779625
Eh, this is literally any pre-Half-Life FPS though.

>> No.5779632

>>5779627
no.

>> No.5779636

>>5779632
Play some more 90's shooters, zoom zoom

>> No.5779650

>>5779636
none of them are as confusing and shitty as hexen.

>> No.5779670

>>5779525
Masterpiece, one of the best games ever.

>> No.5779718
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>>5779525
Favorite game of all time.

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>>5779543
>>5779625
>>5779650
Except the game tells you 'A door has opened on [map name]'

>> No.5779905

>>5779602
It really isn't, it has difficult puzzles, but they're not nearly as drawn out as Hexen 1's.

>> No.5779915

>>5779734
You must be using a new source port or whatever, the one I played merely said "door opens somewhere", without specifying WHERE.

>> No.5779926

>>5779627
Doom/Duke/SW/Blood aren't like that. Hell, even Raven themselves' previous game, Heretic, isn't like that.

>> No.5779930

1 > 2 in every single way, even graphics.

>> No.5779935
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5779935

more of a Heretic guy

>> No.5779939
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>>5779935
Personally I like Heretic more than Doom. Still a Hexen guy though.

>> No.5779947

>>5779930
2 > 1 in every single way, especially graphics

>> No.5779951
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>>5779947

>> No.5779954

>>5779543
git gud motherfucker

>> No.5779989

>>5779954
It's you that should git gud taste

>> No.5779993
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5779993

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9LAYRHjI9k

>> No.5780097

>>5779935
>>5779939
Based

>> No.5780115
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>>5779734
>>5779939
>>5779951
>>5779993
post more heretic/hexen memes. i would appreciate it

>> No.5780119
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5780119

Pretty great game, one of my favorite FPS's. I find the combat is way more satisfying than Heretic. All the enemies feel bullet-spongey in that game. All you need in Hexen is one or two hammer hits and they're dead.
And of course the puzzley nature makes it stand out, it just feels different from standard Doom-clone key hunting. Some of the level design / puzzles are bullshit I must admit though.
Hexen 2 is fantastic as well. Kind of like Quake compared to Doom, there are fewer enemies but they're beefier and more threatening. Even the Archer grunts can fuck you up if you're not dodging and crouching to avoid their arrows. I like how the puzzles are less arbitrary switch hunts and more like actual puzzles, even if again a couple are just bullshit. And the art is fantastic, just goes to show the Quake engine doesn't have to be brown.
>>5779915
Nah mate. Ive played it on both sourceports and the original DOS (well, through DOSBOX, but you know). It always gives at least some sort of hint on where a door opened.
>>5780115

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>>5780115
GREETINGS MORTAL, ARE YOU READY TO DINE?

>> No.5780130

>>5779525
I really like its style and atmosphere. The goals for every hub (just switch hunting) could be better or more imaginative.

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>>5779543
>>5779625
>>5779650

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>>5780115

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>>5779525
Semi wasted potential, Raven software's spritework is phenomenal and atmosphere is great, but combat is way too limited followed by late game feeding you with constant dual mana spheres so you can endlessly spam your super weapon, and the worst of all is that mod community is just a single drop of sand when compared to doom modding.
>>5780119
>All the enemies feel bullet-spongey in that game
Damage spread on weapons is to blame, Raven were probably afraid to overdo it, so they made very conservative choices when it came to weapon stats.

>> No.5780274

>>5780119
>>5780264
I don't know if the bullet sponge / damage spread has anything to do with this but I always felt Heretic was the best FPS for pistol starting. The game just feels so perfectly balanced.

>> No.5780276

>>5780274
I mean just because your stats are shit doesn't mean that enemy doesn't suffer the same, sabre claws can deal whopping 3 damage while being melee only.

>> No.5780282

>>5780276
Yeah but they hit surprisingly fast, you can't really do the Pinky dance with them or stunlock with the Gauntlets.

>> No.5780285
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5780285

Would some kind nip or weeb please translate pic related?

>>5779525
Great game -- really nailed the environmental moody ambience.

>> No.5780287
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>>5780285
That's a trap, by the way.

>> No.5780292
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>>5780285
Hexen's atmosphere is amazing.

>> No.5780295

>>5780287
It's ok, just curious abount the nip-nong dialogue, not aroused in the least.

I see you Waldo!

>> No.5780302

seven portals is a fucking pleb filter, that shit is actually easy as fuck to figure out if youre not a complete retard

>> No.5780303

>>5780302
Seven Portals is still the worst hub in the game though.

>> No.5780309

>>5780303
yeah its there early to filter out plebs, i have never got stuck once on there just go through the doors you havent done and flip a switch easy as pie

>> No.5780506

>>5780292
I loved how Hexen added so much new stuff on the Doom engine. This game was Raven at it's best.

>> No.5780552

Fuck centaurs. Sapphire wand is cool. Baratus' everything is cool. Best looking game on the Doom engine

>> No.5780559

Hexen has some pretty fun encounters. Wish it had as big a modding community as Doom.

>> No.5780573

>>5779993
>tfw no mage bf to smoke weed, do occult rituals, and shoot at imps with

>> No.5780574

>>5780287
>>5780285
It's Remus from the fantasy anime Guin Saga.
Also that tiny centaur is the epitome of cute.

>> No.5780585

>>5779627
Name two others that do this.

>> No.5780591
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5780591

Friendly reminder.

>> No.5780674

Anyone knows where I can get Hexen 2's expansion data files? Lots of people say it's better than the base game but I can't find it anywhere.

>> No.5780685

Is pretty fun. Wraithverge is a great idea for a fantasy weapon.

>> No.5780737

>>5780674
Its in in the Quake subfolder of the Mega folder linked in this thread >>5775259
Also a download page is literally the second result on google for "hexen 2 portals of praevus"

>> No.5780767

>>5779525
Amazing game, maybe a bit underrated today idk.

Fighter > Mage > Cleric

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>>5779525

>> No.5781259

>>5780737
Thank you so much! I'm sorry for being retarded.

>> No.5781270

>>5780767
Gauntlet > wand > mace
Axe > scepter > ice
Lightning > fire > hammer
Wraithverge > bloodscourge > quin... the sword.

>> No.5781302

>>5779926
>>5780585
All of them did key/switch hunts, that's just how all the shooters were pre-Half-Life. It was the industry standard. Hexen just went a bit more hardcore with it, is all.

>> No.5781323

>>5780174
I always thought those were mummies.

>> No.5781331

Pathways into Darkness, Cybermage, HeXen 1, Quake ep4+beta3end...
Home..
.
:(

>> No.5781336

>>5780767
Mage can faceroll 95% of the main game and 90% of the addon, both on last difficulty, with wand only, and when the time comes to dish out the damage HEY GUESS WHAT I HAVE BOTH MANA GAUGES FULL AND 15 ARTIFACTS OF EACH TYPE MOFO.

>> No.5781337

Are individual hubs of the main game and/or its addon "pistolstart"-friendly?

>> No.5781738

>>5781270
>Gauntlet > wand
No way. The Wand is used throughout the entire game whereas the Gauntlets are dropped the second you get the Axe.

>> No.5781756
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5781756

The expansion pack is better

>> No.5781763

>>5781756
It is but I wish it added something new besides hubs; weapons, enemies, inventory items, or better yet, a new class.

>> No.5781768

>>5781756
I hated it. Too unbalanced to my tastes.

>> No.5781771

>>5780285
>>5780287
Theres something so great about those Japanese drawn fanarts of the western games.

>> No.5781778

>>5781771
I guess because nips usually hate our games and never draw them.

>> No.5781785

It's a good game man...yeah, it's a copy of doom, but it's immersive and funny with a different ambientation and location that are very fucking good.

>> No.5781787

My favorite Doom-like.

>> No.5781793

>>5781768
Mage still facerolls it. Other two though.

>> No.5781802

>>5781763
Now not only ettins spawn in, but actually dangerous enemies too. Hence for everyone but mage you have to waste your mana on those monsters, of which you have finite reserves. That very much changes the dynamics of the game.

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>>5781793
>fighting Slaughtaurs with just the Mace and not enough flechettes

>> No.5781816

Okay, that's it. Gotta Chocolate HeXen the Deathkings right NOW.

>> No.5781818

>>5781816
Grooving to Buckethead Pikes too. Bite me.

>> No.5781906

I didn't like how it wasn't a straight FPS like Heretic and more like a gigantic puzzle box with different hubs and areas. I never liked that it was just one giant switch hunt.

>> No.5781910

For whoever's interested, there's a pack here on VR which has all the major DOS titles. Games got updated and fixes applied where possible.

Titles vary but ofcourse included are Wolfenstein 3D (WASD fix), Doom with 4 major WADS, Quake 1, Quake 2 (DOS port), Blood + Cryptic, Heretic + Serpent Riders, Hexen + Deathkings, Duke 3D, and more.

Pastebin link which has all the info and the DL link: https://pastebin.com/MecZvPwm

>> No.5781926

>>5781906
That's exactly why I liked it because it was different. Doom clones were a diamond dozen back then, it was nice to have something new. I don think Hexen stands on its own merits though and not simply for being different.

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>> No.5782287

>>5779525
About to start Hexen for the first time, anything I should know?
I've beaten Heretic not long ago.

>> No.5782317

>>5782287
Use the automap to find hidden switches you may have missed (little indents in the walls)

>> No.5782346

>>5782287
I hope you enjoy getting lost solving exceedingly cryptic puzzles. Enemies respawn every time you revisit a hub, and damn you'll have to backtrack a lot, both on level progression and on finding where the hell you have to go next. There are three classes to choose, but the mage has a ranged attack by default, the others will require that you take it close and personal with the opposition for quite a while (even longer with the fighter).

>> No.5782438

>>5782346
Enemies don't respawn but a few ettin (aka weakest enemy in the game) are ported in every few minutes.

>> No.5782498

>>5782287
The best rule to follow is: just because you see a portal, doesn't mean that you need to enter it.

>> No.5782685

>>5779525
I played it on N64, I didn't like very much, I was a kid and thought it was confusing.

>> No.5782692

hexen is peak retro fps aesthetic but too bad about the gameplay

>> No.5782697

>>5782685
You should give it a try on PC, the controls are a million times better and you can see better since there's hi-res sourceports.

>> No.5782714

>>5782697
Yeah, it's one of those games that has always been on my mind to "try" again. I'll try again someday.

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>> No.5784369

>>5779525
Why isn't Hexen/Heretic available on GOG still?