/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5776921
The best part about plugy is that I have not played in a few months and when I want to play again I can pick up where I left off without having to log into my accout(s) to prevent them from being deleted. What a time to be alive.

>>5777063
Does plugy have proper ubers yet, or are they still broken and missing skeletons?

Any chance that Diablo 2 will have a mobile port? iOS/Android

>>5776921
Nice, and near perfect.
>>5777086
Still broken and will forever remain so since PlugY is abandonware since 2014?

>>5777086
The only way to fight the proper ubers is using a plugin from 1.10f or hex-editing the changes from that plugin into whatever version you want to play.

>>5776921
decided to make an Auradin for some fun and it's been a blast.
Ran right through Normal with just points into Holy Fire and 1 point into Sacrifice.
Now I'm blazing through Nightmare having respecced into Holy Shock and I'm still 2-3 shotting stuff just by existing. Archer packs aren't even a problem because I can straight up run circles around them until they die.
Pity it drops off at the start of Hell though cuz the endgame gear for it is fukken expensive.

Got this bad boy last night, fuckin' finally lads.

I also started playing Diablo 1, so far so good desu.

>>5778197
Holy Shock isn't too bad in hell. I like to use a Lawbringer barb as a sort of budget undead only Infinity.

>>5778536
Nice man, I'm still looking for that one but my grail's been going well. Found IK armor and Gris weapon this week - knocking some of the big ones down. Keep on the grind anon

What's it take to start going for a grail? I assume sorc is the most used

>>5779498
me again and holy SHIT it's been a good week. this was just randomly running through hell SP on a new character too. I'll never shit talk the maggot lair again

>>5779997
whatever is optimal at killing what you are going to be hunting, some drops are in the 100k range so making a completely new character for that one area you farm it in is barely any time at all. A sorc is probably going to be first followed by a paladin and then barbarian and maybe amazon/druid

>>5779997
if you're going for efficiency sorc is queen purely because of teleport from scratch. after that I'd say amazon / paladin

>>5780315
God damn man, that's awesome.

>>5780365
dude, it just got better, wtf

>>5780391
Where's your enigma?

>>5780391
>perfect base defense, -res, damage%
>1 off from lowest added defense
Very interesting rolls.

>>5780414
i don't have one, haven't found a jah

>>5780324
seconding this.
Javazon kills shit incredibly fast. A good Pitzerker/Pindle barbarian is good too. Smite paladin is good for Ubers and such.
Also gunna suggest Summon/CE necro simply because it doesn't really need any gear, letting you full-time 500MF or more.

>really want to start a grail run
>know that as soon as i get heavily invested, d2 remaster will be officially announced
I hate this.

>>5780902
>simply because it doesn't really need any gear, letting you full-time 500MF or more
I don't like when people suggest that you don't actually need any gear to make a summoner work. Can you TECHNICALLY clear hell naked? Yeah, but you're either going to be dancing like crazy to avoid getting insta-gibbed by any ranged attack, or you're going to shit all over your corpse-making ability and CE damage by running dim vision instead of amp, and you're going to be making those corpses sloooooow. That is a decidedly non-chill playstyle. If you want to MF on a summoner and be even somewhat competitive compared to a modestly geared sorc, you really do need great gear.

>>5780924
The only thing you really want as a summoner is enigma for mobility. Otherwise you can stack MF like a mofo. All you need is a decently geared merc.

>>5780941
You need 125FCR so it doesn't play like shit. Unless you just fuck your resistances and +skills through the floor, you're probably going to end up with ~350MF.

>>5780905
remaster, if it even happens, will be shit so dont waste your time worrying or caring about it.
if they even manage to release it within the next 2 years it'll be rushed and guaranteed to be shit, so you have plenty of time for a Grail.
Even if they somehow don't fuck it up most of the community will still play D2 as we do now because Blizz being Blizz they'll somehow find a way to add an auction house and loot boxes to the fucking remaster.

>>5776921
Why there hasn't been a Diablo II 2.0 yet?

>>5780978
Don't all they need to add is a higher resolution and call it a day, why add it anything else, if anything maybe 1 new character to play with and some new loots top.

>get Median XL
>level a character all the way to baal on hell
>can't beat him
>"fuck this gimmick"

Still not feeling regret and don't care.

>>5781115
If you got to hell baal you probably had a decent enough time at least. The real meat of the game is doing all of the challenges, if you try to treat it like regular d2 you're probably going to hate it, since it just isn't as good as the original in that aspect.

>>5780952
Why? Just to teleport faster? Everything on the screen dies to 2 or 3 corpse explosions.

>>5781251
Cursing, teleporting, corpse exploding. Getting 9 frame casts on everything you're doing is huge.

>>5781252
not him but not when you're based semi-afk Netflixmancer like I am.

running through with a necro and it's an interesting way to play. respecced to a bone necro for hell, clay golem + decrep is so ridiculous for bosses it's hard to believe. i'm finding my merc dying a lot to regular mobs though, i'm hoping i find a better base for insight (or even upgrading to obedience although i'd miss the mana) soon, and a decent base to give him treachery or something instead of the duriel's shell he currently has

>>5781358
>or even upgrading to obedience although i'd miss the mana
Insight iron golem. But yeah a summoner is always great, probably my favourite build.

>>5781368
i'm not summoning, i'm going pure bone. was a little underwhelmed by the damage numbers but it doesn't seem to be too weak, which i'm guessing is because enemies magic resistance is pretty low compared to other elements on average.

also, insight iron golem? seems like a pain to keep finding bases for that, and also i'd be removing it every time there's a significant monster i'd need the slowing of clay golem for, but i might try it out. like the idea. some other anon recommended i keep an insight scythe on switch but that doesn't seem much easier than chugging mana pots

>>5781389
>insight switch
Disgusting, don't do this.
>insight iron golem
Works very well and is practically unkillable once you get a decent amount of +skills. Iron golems aren't de-summoned when you save and exit.
>every time there's a significant monster i'd need the slowing of clay golem for
Outside of hell baal, what do you need that slow for? For bosses, amp, or if your shit is dying, swap between amp and life tap to keep everything topped off.

>>5781412
alright, you've convined me, i'll try the setup next time i get some playtime in. does the base weapon you make the iron golem in affect anything, or only the mods?

>>5781419
I think it's just base stats based on skill level + whatever the sacrificial piece of gear does tacked on to that. Any old junk 4 socket polearm will be fine.

>>5781419
The iron golem gains all the properties of the item. This includes base damage, added damage, crushing blow, leech, oskills (but they are not smart enough to use anything except for passives like critical strike), auras when equipped and so on. They can even gain energy, mana and stamina, but you'd never know this because it doesn't do anything for them.

>>5781389
>i'm not summoning, i'm going pure bone
Oh, I misunderstood. Had a lvl93 boner back then, expensive as fuck but kinda fun. I just prefer a skeleton army as mobile damage dealing bone wall, instead of the regular wall and spear/ghost.

>>5781460
i tried summoning but i just don't love the whole passive aspects of it honestly, just found it a little boring at times. i'm liking bonemancer better and i have a death's web in my stash i've been meaning to use so i might try a poisonmancer to do some pit runs or something after i clear hell

It's not worth making an insight IG just so the merc can carry obedience. Obedience is good, but not that good. Also no matter how stronk you are, if you run dkeys your golems will die eventually.

I would rank the usefulness of the merc weapons like so:
>infinity (by far)
>insight
>pride
>faith
>obedience

>>5781904
>dying to nihil's CE or pit vipers
Shame on you.

>>5781470
>i tried summoning but i just don't love the whole passive aspects of it honestly
Well it's a matter of personal preference, some like to just zoom around and cast five spells at once which I could never do.
Some summoning upgrades would be great though. Have some hotkeys to send everyone to a certain location or concentrate on a certain enemy, maybe something to have them take different formations.
I always thought it would be cool if the summons could surround the summoner and so on. At least a little AI upgrade.

>might try a poisonmancer to do some pit runs
That one was a lot of fun in my opinion.

>>5782207
minions ≠ player you dumb slut
A group of vipers unfavorably positioned has a good chance of killing the IG quickly. Infinite monkey theorem- it will probably happen after a few dozen runs

>>5782605
Surely you can take 5 seconds to throw together a new insight with the 4os polearms and insight runes that are raining from the sky during these runs, and give your merc the significantly better weapon. Even if you can only afford obedience, it's significantly more powerful than a perfectly rolled insight.

>>5781358
just go to Obedience and use mana pots. well worth it for the heaps extra damage he'll do. More damage = more healing from Life leech.

You guys are aware that Insight has a Critical Strike oskill, right?

>>5782982
I think it's better than what more people give it credit for. Just ran hell meph a few times and amped him, but otherwise let my merc kill him without any skellingtons. A low ED rth CV insight consistently kills him just as fast as his eth obedience thresher, despite the thresher having higher paper damage and crushnig blow.

>>5782982
I guess they are all about the CB, which is wayyy more than a double-damage hit. But since you can get 35 CB from gully's, and 35 is plenty, and there is no helm that is specifically good like that with Obedience, their ideas are a bit dumb and they should feel bad about it.

For non-summoners I would take Insight and for summoners Infinity if you can afford it; otherwise, Insight. And for people who prefer to just go AFK while the skeletons work, clearing rooms fast obviously isn't a big deal and it doesn't matter what you take.

>>5783051
The standard setup is andy's with a 15 ias jewel and fort. You don't need any CB for normal summoner shit, you just need big dick damage for one-shots and instant corpses.

>>5783030
Silly question: if Merc gets the kill, which mf % will count, his or my chars?

>>5783567
His mf/gf plus yours. That's the gimmick behind item horking gf barbs running trav.

just finished my first playthrough of d1
it was a fun game, definitely took more patience than i'm used to.

>>5783567
if merc gets the killing blow then his MF is added to yours.

Can somebody explain to me lore behind scrolls of identify other than it being cheap gambling endorphin stimulator and time wasting gimmick?

>>5783809
I can't wrap my heads around what was going with D2 devs when they made the game. So many random choices which doesn't fit the final game at all, identifying items being one. In game with millions of drops. Did they really think someone would play this for only one hour a day and maybe identify two items tops? Why can't I fucking stack gems you fucking retarded Brevik cumguzzlers?

It's like watching those idiotic official builds devs make for D3 with which you can't clear Torment 1 but it's family friendly and slow while the fanbase is on amphetamines and rips apart Torment 666.

>>5783809
>By carefully preparing special parchment with magical inks, a focus for spells can be created. Such magical scrolls provide the reader with the ability to cast a spell that they normally may not know, without expending any mana. Very powerful spells cannot be used by the untrained, however, for the cryptic symbols upon them are difficult to comprehend. The act of casting the spell drains the scroll of all magical power and causes the parchment to crumble to dust instantly.
Lore-wise, it makes more sense after playing D1, as there are scrolls for specific spells you can use on-time only, even if you haven't learned the spell.

>>5783820
>on-time
one time

Any of you gonna try this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV20rc8UpsI

>>5783927
>Diablo 2: Warcraft 3
No.

>>5783927
>all enemy AI just runs up to you and attacks
There are already hundreds of dumbed down Diablolikes, why would I want to play this?

>>5783819
I think the game went through a pretty radical change partway through early development, from something closer to D1 to what we have now, there are so many little things that would make sense if the game was just a little slow paced, a little "smaller" so to speak. LoD and the later vanilla patches took it even further.

The biggest example of this sort of thing being the original stash space and the stamina bar. Built for almost an entirely different game.

>went on vacation
>blizz cleared my account
Lost everything :[

>>5784107
Long vaction. Pretty sure you get 90 days and multiple emails.

>>5784127
Yes 90 days exactly. Will probably be playing mostly local in the future..

Here ya go goyim, diablo 1 in ya fucking browser. Welcome to the future.

https://d07riv.github.io/diabloweb/

>>5780924

I couldn't clear Hell naked, but with a pretty shittly equiped Merc (Corpsemorn armor, rare helmet with resists, rare polearm with 250% ED) and just P topaz helm and armor plus a teleport staff I could clear the Pits pretty easily.

If I slogged up revives to good ones I could move through the rest of Hell with only marginally better gear. The key was a shit ton of revives and a lot of dim vision. CE kills plenty fast.

just got my first anni! i'd never done dclone before and he happened to spawn in plugy as i was doing baal runs with my necro. i was bone, which i pretty quickly realized wasn't going to do dick for his insane regen, so i respecced to a poison necro with death's web.

that didn't work for shit either because poison nova's 2 second proc and teleporting around him in circles didn't do anything (for some reason not every nova affected him and he instantly destroyed merc and golem).

respecced AGAIN for poison but this time put 20 in golem mastery and removed death's web for blackbog's and decided to go with poison dagger for the increased poison length. started using decrep + golem and slapped on some hotspurs, then gave the merc kelpie snare + guillame's and let him wear down dclone while i stopped regen with dagger. took a few trips back to town to revive the merc but he eventually went down. had a pretty good time doing it desu

>>5785096
Congratulations anon! I wish my first kill was that memorable.

>>5785096
Next time use Malice, the most powerful runeword, if you can afford it.

>>5784506
Lots of skellingtons, lots of revives, iron maiden to make corpses if your merc is poorly geared. Will easily take you through hell.

>act 3 decides to generate an island
God damn I love act 3 jungle generation and its inconsistency.

>>5785529
I don't mean to alarm you but it appears that your health and mana orbs are actually dragons.

>>5777079
/thread

>>5785146
i found that open wounds / PVM on magic characters are not useful at all. they don't last very long and dclone's regen rate is so insane that you have to stay really close the whole time. i liked poison dagger because it lasted a long time and unlike prevent monster heal there was a very clear indication that the poison was still in effect, whereas with prevent monster heal, by the time you notice you need to reapply he's already regen'd a massive amount of health

>>5785901
Prevent Monster Heal lasts forever as long as you don't go too many screens away like TPing for more pots. I actually killed him for the first time yesterday too. I planned on using the Spineripper periodically in the fight but all I needed was a single hit at the start.

Can somebody explain to me reasoning behind including Casting spells when Struck/on hit with no synergies?

Like Infinity has 50% Chance To Cast Level 20 Chain Lightning When You Kill An Enemy? Wtf is lvl 20 Chain Lightning good for? It will take an hour to chip off a bit of health with such suck ass shit spells.

What were they thinking in Blizzard North?

>oh we have this cool item
>i know let's put 5% chance to cast lvl 1 firebolt on hit
>niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice 10 damage flat on super unique with 20k healthpool is gonna be awesome

>>5786396
Rule of cool.

>>5786396
Just mod it to be better and before you know it you'll have made Median 2.

>>5786396
I remember reading in some interview back in 2002 that Blizzard thought nobody would every play Hell difficulty but hardcore fans so they didn't really work on it. And when it became the default difficulty, by that time North already disbanded and since Blizzard Irvine didn't give shit about Diablo franchise they never fixed it.

Kinda interesting how a broken difficulty level actually wasn't so broken. That's why you have items dropping with crap stats that would maybe make sense in Act I Normal, if. I mean, grand charm drop in Hell with 1-12 elemental damage, are you fucking retarded?

Best mods and why

>>5786480
d2se+plugy

>>5786480
What do you want out of the mod? There isn't really a single best in everything.

>>5786495
i just get tired once i finish hell. I don't care this much about loot

>>5786508
Get Median XL and do all of the challenges/uberquests. That'll keep you busy for a while.

>>5786508
Median XL if you want something faster and flashier with all new skills and end game content. Le Royaume des Ombres if you only sort of want that. Back to Hellfire if you like Diablo and Diablo 2. Nezeramontias if you like the idea of turning the game into a collectathon. Netherworld Rises, Aftermath or Hell Unleashed if you want extreme difficulty. Eastern Sun if you want Diablo 2, but expanded on more. Reign of Shadows if you want a little bit of content expansion, a little bit of collectathon and a tiny bit of challenge.

>>5786396
You can clear the game entirely from using Thorns and "cast X when struck" items.
The only hard part is Chaos Sanctuary.

help can't stop playing this game

>decided to play that autistic mod with the gigantic durance of hate
>level 1 and 2 are filled with fire, lightning, earth and water elementals
>lightning elementals instantly kill you with chain lightning if you have minions
>my character only deals fire damage, so I have to run by fire elementals
>water elementals have holy freeze
>all of the elementals spawn 3 mini clones of themselves on death
>takes me an entire hour just to get past level 1 and 2
>level 3 is even bigger than I expected, spent an hour and a half and I'm pretty sure I was less than half of the way to Mephisto
>the entire level is flooded with bone fetishes, dark lords that spawn one hit kill meteors on death, urdars that spawn two hit kill fissures on death and council members that spam hundreds of fireball hydras
>end up dying with no way of ever retrieving my corpse
>will have to go through durance of hate 2 and 3 all over again
I don't think I'm gonna make it bros

>>5788513
I don't want to sound condescending but it's probably because your orbs are actually dragons?

>>5777079
>>5785893
>Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier.
>02/08/14(Sat)
That post is 5 years old. So technically, games from 2004 are considered "retro" now.

>>5788654
>5 years til league of legends is considered "retro"

>>5777079
Thank you for your contribution to the thread.

Never forget the hundreds of amazons that laid down their lives and orb dragons against the oppression of Mephistos everywhere.

>>5788715
disgusting. Why would you subject yourself to that?

>>5788715
This is disgusting, what kind of sicko designs a map like that?

>>5788715

>>5788715
I'm pretty sure the bible has a commandment about maps being that awful. Fuck that.

>>5788513
>tfw your red dragon turns into a black dragon

So I just reinstalled this old gem, 1.13c with PlugY and with all the Summoner talk in here I decided to go with a MF Summoner.
Haven't played in a long time but did some reading, already cranked the duration for Revives up because I remember them being really annoying.
May this journey bring lots of loot.

any recent research out there on why some games get dejerhynated?

>>5790180
Talk to drognan (or whatever tf his name is) before and after breaking the viper alter

>>5790327
haven't done much talking to him before- will try

>Barbarian mercenaries regenerate their full hp in 16 seconds compared to all other mercs 40 seconds

Well that and their high base hp combined with Oak Sage explains why he doesn't die.

>>5790774
Barbarian mercs are the best if you are poor and not a necromancer. Lawbringer is insanely good support despite being pretty cheap to make.

Have any of you guys tried Grim Dawn?

>>5790902
It's a better sequel to D2 than D3 or PoE are. Story is an absolute nothingburger, but the skill/build choice and itemization is top tier.

>>5790906
>low-tier titan quest reskin
>better sequel to anything
Anon...

>>5790938
Shut the fuck up faggot, I'm not wrong.

>>5790942
D3 is currently pretty okay. Easily above GD. Didn't launch that way, but that doesn't really matter anymore.

>>5790902
The AI is embarrassingly bad. No reason to play it.

>>5790984
>D3 is currently pretty okay
You are off your fucking rocker, mate. I sure hope this is bait, but I know it's not. Item depth doesn't exist and any semblance of choice died the moment they started pushing the absurdly overpowered set bonuses. Not only did that kill the sliver of fucking item choice, but it also destroyed skill choice at the same fucking time. It's really quite impressive. The whole game is now "nuke the entire screen repeatedly until the boss spawns that 1 shots you, kill the boss before you get 1 shotted 5 times while using predetermined setups that outweigh everything else by a factor of 50,000". D2s sorc doesn't even begin to touch that level of advantage.

Don't compare that fucking joke of a game to D2, Grim Dawn, PoE or any other game worth the title.

The ONLY thing, the single thing D3 has over the rest is fluidity of gameplay. It feels fantastic to play, but without any depth all that achieves is an army of brainwashed idiots who think flashy effects and smooth combat somehow makes a good game. Take that and shove it up your ass. You have no taste or objectivity. None at all.

>>5791008
When I played grim dawn at release it was all 'hold m1' cadence meme builds. I'll take D3 any day over that.

>>5791010
>release
I'm not the guy shilling for GD, but you'd be surprised how far the game has changed these days. Multiple expansions plus many overhaul updates.

also of course meta is going to exist in any game, D3 is just the worst by a landslide.

>>5791008
>this entire rant
>You have no taste or objectivity.
>objectivity
"Pretty okay" is about as close to a faint praise as it gets, too

>>5791013
I was planning on buying the GOTY edition or equivalent whenever they finally stop releasing expansions. Should be good for a couple hundred hours at least.

>>5791008
>any semblance of choice died the moment they started pushing the absurdly overpowered set bonuses. Not only did that kill the sliver of fucking item choice, but it also destroyed skill choice at the same fucking time.
All D3 'suffers' from in this case is a clearly defined end-game with an almost infinitely scaling boundary. You can say a lot of things about D2 vs D3, but when the "highest level" of PvE play in D2 is based on minimizing the amount of time spent full-clearing a85/CS/WSK/keyrunning/ubering, yet the same difficulty level and even challenges can still be cleared by a WW barbarian wearing blues or some other budget build, it looks like you have a shitload more choice even though a fully decked Hammerdin finds Hell positively trivial and there's nary a point to running half the character builds if all you're concerned with is efficiency.

D3 doesn't get nearly as rigid until you start hitting the highest echelons of the end-game. It is largely gear-check based the higher you climb, but you can meet those gear checks in multiple ways per class.

Your rant is more concerned with sticking it to the faggot anon and parading your superior taste in video games with those generalized "facts" read off the internet. Then there's the bizarre assertion that the game is fun to play but it's shit nevertheless, as opposed to your highly enlightened Demon Clicker game that you probably are only interacting with when you set your bots to run Nightmare Lower Kurast in the morning.

>>5789370

Revives aren't annoying because of their duration, they simply vanish if you move too far away from them and they do not follow you like the skeletons do. You basically need teleport to use revives.

>>5791029
>efficiency.
Bowzon grail. Suck my dick. I never even mentioned efficiency, you're just projecting assumptions.

>D3 doesn't get nearly as rigid until you start hitting the highest echelons of the end-game.
Ah yes. The end game that's moronically gifted to you 3 hours into the new season. 10/10 point you've got there friend.

>Then there's the bizarre assertion that the game is fun to play but it's shit nevertheless
I never said "fun". Again, stop putting words in my mouth, faggot.

>bots
see point one, continue sucking my dick. Imagine unironically defending diablo 3. Zoomers deserve the bullet.

>>5791039
>it feels fantastic to play
>not a synonym for "fun"
Just

>>5791041
There's no fun to draw from it if there's nothing substantial behind it. Shallow and brainlet tier, perfect for people like you.

>>5791043
>Diablo
>high-tier game for intellectuals
wow you found a Lenymo and a Tyrael's Might with a ranged build with four safety buttons
congratulations you are the progamest

>>5791048
I never said it was a fucking testament to brainpower, again you're projecting! unbelievable! However having SOME mental stimulation is better than D3s "just turn your brain off bro" itemization.

>>5791029
>>5791041
>>5791048
bet you even play d3 on the nintendo switch

>>5791051
>me press Frozen Arrow
>me Knockback everything away
>me am invest in Decoy and Valkyrie, hiding behind three 6k life shields is the unga
>me pluck for 4 minutes at Stoneskin Lister the Tormentor because Bow bad but me snowflake
>unique sacred armor! unga!!
>eee templar might sad unga
>time to runga the unga again
>me wish me could stimulate mental munga by pop Nightmare Lower Kurast chest
>me hope for a Dol today from chest
>da D3 hurgas are bunga! me smart! her her her!

>>5791060
Absolutely S E E T H I N G

>>5791064
hey we can both shitpost and generalize
I hope you enjoy the mental stimulation provided by running the same exact areas over and over again with one of the safest builds in the game

>>5791065
I don't use decoy or valk, nor freezing arrow. I run with HP at about 550. But that's irrelevant because you're just being argumentative for it's own sake and nothing I can say will stop that. D3 sucks fucking dick though and you're sad for liking it. I bet you're a Hilary voter who likes marvel films.

>>5791070
>I don't use decoy or valk, nor freezing arrow
epic build then bro
I'm just happy you got so rustled over someone's opinion that D3 amounts to basically a 6/10 game
milady diablo 2 will reward you with bountiful nightmare LK chests I'm sure

>>5791073
>6/10

>>5791073
>I'm just happy you got so rustled over someone's opinion that D3 amounts to basically a 6/10 game
I'm just happy you get so ass blasted defending a 6/10 game.

>post that d3 is pretty okay
>anon has a meltdown
>other anon engages
>immediate shitshow all around
>thread properly derailed
Well shit, now I feel bad for starting all of this. Can't we all just come together and agree that barb is a meme class and assassin is the real master race?

Now this is a nice map layout, time to farm Rakanishu and some gem shrines.

>>5791038
Fuck, I remember now. Can't find much else about it, I suppose it was never modded?

>>5791089
>suppose it was never modded?
I've tried more than once. I don't think it's possible without very heavy modification. Summons and mercs TP to the player with a hidden passive skill called 'Teleport2' or something similar, you'd have to give it to all enemies to use when they revive and I'm sure that would take fucking forever to do and probably break the game, too.

I did make it so that the revive skill gives the monster that skill, but they either don't or can't cast it. People have been trying to make this work for years now and I've not seen anyone pull it off.

>>5791087
>post that d3 is pretty okay
DON'T EVEN START WITH ME ANON

>>5791060
dude this was sad to read

>>5791097
What makes you say that they use Teleport 2? I deleted that row and the behavior didn't change at all. As far as I know, the minion leashing is completely hardcoded and has nothing to do with any skills that they possess.

>>5791089
The Basemod plugin fixes that issue, along with adding a bunch of other QOL benefits like shift clicking items between inventories.

>>5791243
Does basemod really fix the revives, from memory they just followed smarter, not stopped despawning.

>>5791259
You are probably right, I read it over again it just said that they follow better.

>https://d2mods.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63436

This is probably the best chance at getting revives with a leash, but you'd have to do the code editing yourself. The actual edits are at the bottom and seem pretty simple, but the locations are for 1.10f. Or you can wait for the Dreamlands plugin to come out, but that is also 1.10f only and has been in closed testing for four god damn years.

>>5788715
what the fuck even is this mod

>>5790180
Also you should try talking to jerhyn as soon as you appear on act 2. That always works for me.

anything you guys wish blizzard had done differently on d2 after all this time playing? i always think they could have done a better job with the mercs since the act 2 mercs typically outclass the rest because of default auras. i think it would have been a lot better if each group of mercs had auras that differed based on difficulty hired and were kind of themed.

Act 1 (utility): blessed aim, fanaticism, fanatacism and will occasionally buff you with inner sight
Act 2 (defensive): prayer, defiance, salvation
Act 3 (elemental): holy freeze, conviction, conviction + will occasionally buff you with enchant
Act 5 (offensive): concentration, might, might and will occasionally buff you with BO or BC

probably not perfect but i have thought about trying to mod something like this just for more variety and merc options, rate my autism

>>5791664
Made colored lights available in Direct3D, and OR added an OpenGL mode instead of Glide.

>>5791664
blizzard be like
>oh, the a2 mercs already at an advantage because of default auras?
>let's make a shitload of powerful polearm specific runewords that give them even more auras
>& to hell with the other mercs
could have been easily remedied with a better selection of sword and bow rws

>>5791664
i know the act 3 merc are fucking useless but a conviction aura and the ability to use enchant would probably fucking bust them, conviction is too good on its own

>>5791070
>I bet you're a Hilary voter who likes marvel films
this is the mind of a mentally ill incel who never leaves his cum and piss smelling basement

>>5791837
Lawbringer barb is pretty nice and budget

>>5790902
You either love it or hate it. Personally +1k hours clocked and still have a dozen build ideas I've wanna try out every time I start the game up.

>>5791664
That was basically done in anons mod, from memory. https://www.moddb.com/mods/diablo-ii-115/downloads/diablo-ii-115c

>Can we pour one out for my friend who just now learned that you don't have to search every tomb for Duriel?
based redditors

>>5792912
>implying you don't have to search every tomb
Don't even joke about this.

>>5792912
>>5792916
The true final boss of Act 2 is Prastary "Kaa" Bezduszny

>>5792912
>>5792916
>>5792924

>>5792932
It's transparent boi

>>5792932
>>5792934
Do eth titans break if you hit 0? I was always too scared to test that as a kid.

>>5792938
Only in pre-1.10

>>5791097
Sounds like one hell of a job, oh well.

>>5791243
>>5791259
>>5791276
I guess I'll just stick to the regular revives.

>>5792938
Titan's has self-replenish mod, and no durability, therefore eth is superior. Also upd to Matriarchal Javelin.

>>5792934
Why is Javazon on /p8 so easy?

>>5793485
Tons of damage.

>>5781092
because the original still works? what do you want anon?

Penis

>>5791953
I don't have a dog in this fight, but sounds like he hit a nerve.

>>5791873
Just tested a3 fire and lightning mercs in a full LAN game with andy's, magi, 2 spirits, and putting the Infinity on the character. Crescent Moon would have been a better sword but I have no Um or base.

Lightning was able to kill this unique in just less than half a minute, which surprised me. Fire absolutely sucked shit versus anything. Reverted the character back to a2 merc (inf, treach, gaze) and attacked another unique shaman, and it died before I could get a screenshot.

It seems the lightning actually does noticeable damage when he chooses lightning over charged bolt. The a3 mercs just need more damage. I think Infinity would have been better as a sword runeword to give the a5 merc more use. That would make holy shock pals rather ridiculous though.

Is it worth playing D2 over D1 or PoE? I’ve mostly played single player D2 (hammerdin, javazon and some trap assassin) but never felt much thrill out of it. Would a gentle soul guide me over to how enjoy D2?

>>5795115
D2 early on is the game at its best, so if you aren't feeling it, cut your losses.

>>5795115
D2 is boomer game

>>5776921
can anyone top this?

>>5795085
Act 3 fire merc should have had enchant and act 5 mercs should have BO and act 1 mercs should have slow missiles.

>>5795115
its cuz you played diablo 2 on mostly afk classes that can 1-shot entire rooms of mobs without really paying attention
try playing some other builds and classes

>>5777063
how does this work
does it auto-renew
i've lost literally 17 accounts to this shit.

>>5781389
>was a little underwhelmed by the damage numbers
how fuckin new are the clowns in this thread

>>5788513
>not playing hardcore

>>5795115
>>5795132

Act 1 kind of sucks. Don't judge the game based on it.

>>5796829
>best act sucks
No you.

>>5790984
play titanquest

>>5796843
It's awful. Most bland level and monster designs ever seen due to kike producer meddling, and the anniversary edition patch broke all of the fun builds.

>>5796816
He's talking about single player. If you've lost 17 fucking accounts to forgetfulness, I'd suggest perhaps you find a different game. Something simpler. I hear blizzard is making a mobile diablo, sounds right up your alley.

>>5796834
It does kind of suck in that it has so many monsters with blocking. It makes all weapon damage characters feel like hot trash, especially combined with the slow attack speed weapons most characters are using early on.

>>5796885
My solution for that would be to level with a build that is more conducive to leveling and then respeccing when you feel your ideal build would be more effective.

>>5796901
Yes, which makes for a kinda bad act if you have to design your entire character around its existence or miss all the time. It means every paladin has to go holy fire, every amazon poison javelin, every assassin traps, every druid fire. And god spare your poor soul if you are a barbarian, because literally every skill you have that deals damage can be blocked. Only the necromancer and sorceress are spared from the tedium of either playing the same build every time or slogging through blockers.

>>5791664
Make blaze, inferno, cleansing, blessed aim, arctic blast, weaken and slow missiles better. Every other skill in the game has some niche purpose, but these are just pure garbage. There is never a realistic case for when you would want to use any of these.

>>5796937
>slow missiles
>pure garbage
lol

>>5796937
blaze is a crutch for killing Duriel for noob sorcs
cleansing is a 1 point wonder against someone like Andariel
slow missiles is great

>>5796957
>radius is gigantic, but it casts from you so it actually isn't that gigantic in practice
>doesn't really do that much
>amazon cast speed
I've never been in a situation where I thought now would be a good time to cast slow missiles. If I'm under a ton of dangerous fire, casting it in the middle of a ranged pack is going to be far more dangerous than just running around the missiles. I guess the only niche purpose I could possibly think of would be for PvP. What on earth are you actually using it against?

>>5796965
>cleansing for andariel
You already have the overpowered antidote potions, cleansing is redundant if you are willing to spend a negligible amount of gold.

>>5796973
Slow missiles will prevent you from getting dodge locked from lightning enchanted charged boltfags, or just giant piles of enemies in /p8. It's a go-to skill for strafers because you're locked in place and this gives you more than enough wiggle room to strafe > move > repeat.

>>5797008
That makes sense. I always dumped DAE as a strafer to avoid the lockdown, but that sounds workable.

>>5795132
Actually I really liked Act 1 but struggled to enjoy the other ones.

>>5796108
Can you recommend me some stuff other than that? Also, does it compete with Path of Exile? Not trying to say it sucks but looking for different perspectives on it.

>>5796829
I've played up to Hell difficulty (three times) but never completed.

>>5788654
>1999 turned into 2004
Is this Time Kompression?

>>5791664
I wish mercs were able to use two or three different types of weapons. Like:
>Act 1: Bows, Crossbows, Knives
>Act 2: Spears, Polearms, Javelins (as thrown weapon)
>Act 3: Swords, Maces, Staves
>Act 4 (hypothetical cleric): Maces, Orbs, Wands
>Act 5: Axes, Two handed swords, Throwing weapons

I also think that synergies were a terrible idea and lead to essentially investing everything into just making 1 skill as strong as possible and using that for the whole game. I also think that the balance of unique items is super wonky. Some of them are beyond useless, and others are ungodly powerful. I wish the drop rate would allow for players to get a few uniques without grinding bosses or areas. Speaking of which, I wish the boss fights were more engaging. Diablo has the most interesting fight, if only because of the red lightning spell can almost immediately kill you, but the other bosses you basically just run up and punch to death with no other strategy.

>>5796829
Acts 2, 3, and 4 are not really that good. You have almost no optional quests and the environments are basically 1 overworld and 2 dungeon tilesets. Act 5 is great though.

Act 4>1>5>2>3

>>5798576
Act 5 is my least favorite. The aesthetic and soundtrack is completely out of place with the rest of the game.

>>5798576
based
>>5798661
>>5798663
not based. act 5 being a complete breath of fresh air in every way is precisely what makes it so good. 4 has basically no content, 3 is a terrible slog and is ugly as fuck. 2 is good enough to stand on its own, although it starts to drag in maggot lair, sometimes significantly so depending on your build.

1 = 5 > 2 >>>>>> 4 > 3

>>5798569
not even.
honestly I just wish we could equip more gear to them than head body and weapon.

>>5798753
Act 1 is my favourite but I agree with you on Act 5. I just wish Act 5 wasn't so much of a straight line straight to the finish and that people had reasons to go to the side areas.
Act 4 was OK but it was just way too short.
Act 2 is underrated, mostly because people hate the Faggot Lair and there's no real good boss or super uniques worth farming drops from. Ancient Tunnels saves it but >>5798576 is right in that visually Act 2 and 3 could've had more variety in dungeon textures.

I still don't get it why Act IV is so short. You finally get to literal Hell and fight the titular villain and it's complete disappointment.

>>5798892
i would guess they probably ran out of time with act 4, which may be why 3 also feels heavily padded to compensate. i think they did a good job making up for it with act 5.

>>5784264
>https://d07riv.github.io/diabloweb/
>Shareware version
Fuck you, Jew.

>>5798569
>synergies
>bad
There was no build distinction pre-synergies, aside from sorceresses. Every character was exactly the same because you can just max out all the best skills. If you think every amazon being an immolation freezing multiple furyzon is good design then you should try out some retarded mods instead.

>>5798959
>he doesn't have a copy of D1 on his pc already

>>5796957
Slow Missiles actually makes it MORE difficult to avoid projectiles as it causes them to bunch up in groups as opposed to whizzing by your head as you run around taking potshots at everything. Combine this with narrow corridors created by projectile spam and you have a skill that doesn't do what it is supposed to do (which is make it more difficult to get hit by projectiles).

>>5799530
You don't use it in narrow hallways since you can off-screen everything and pierce them. For bigger rooms, you can slow missiles and then slowly move in a circular pattern as you fire off shots. If things get too cluttered just walk out of the room.

Post cool Holy Grail grabs.

>>5799917
sweet quhab drop bro

>>5799939
Thanks, I'm trying.

>>5799917
I haven't found shit in a while but last weekend I found my favorite item in the game - shadow dancers. Was fucking psyched, will post when I get home. Gonna make a riftsin just so I have an excuse to use them

>>5798910
Act 5 has the ugliest tileset in the whole game; the one they use in the Necromancer's lair.

>>5799917
>>5800110
money shot. weak dex roll but at least i got the +2 to disciples.

>>5800207
on a tangent i think it's fucking retarded that the strength requirement on a boot with "dancers" in the name is so high, requirements should have been cut in half desu

I completed my kicksin today on Bnet. What a fun build.
Andy Helm
Duress AP
15DR up'd string
Raven
Stormshield
ML/LL rare ring
2martial/20ias gloves
maras
Stormlash
Up'd gores
Inventory full of elemental (fire or light) damage SCs.

Is there a more fun build in this game that is also effective?

>>5801162
Rift kicker.

>>5801168
I have a rift in my stash. I would need conviction with it to be really effective (conviction is best anyways for both stormlash and rift and the corpse explosions). I don't have the wealth right now. Jah and Ber are so expensive this ladder, it's crazy.

>>5800212
Serious dancers have very strong cores

>>5791664
Fix the bugs and delete Enigma.

>>5801197
>delete Enigma

Delete yourself.

>>5801197
>>5801201
>enigma
Nah just give it a different skill. Delete teleport altogether.

>>5801197
>>5801203
Fuck you.

>>5801201
I heard somewhere that the necro was supposed to have a skill, some kind of eye with which you can explore the map while the necro stands still.
That would've been nice.

>>5801201
Do you think having 1 item BiS for every build in the game is good idea? It's busted.

>>5801204
God I hate sorc players. Game would be 10x better off without that class and it's players. Seethe harder.

>>5801210
Teleport isn't going anywhere. Cope, nigger.

>>5801214
Yeah no shit, brainlet.

>>5801210
You're the one constantly seething, retard.

>unnecessary skill delays on every single skill
>volcano and molten boulder having physical damage seems nice at first, but then you realize this means they do shit damage because enemies can now block it
>firestorm has babby range
>fissure is horrible against enemies that stand still
>every single skill breaks the moment you take it into doorways or levels that are entirely doorway width
>synergies are all over the place just to spite you
>forcing you to path through the entire wind side of the tree to reach armageddon, again just to spite you
>fissure and volcano both have nextdelay, preventing any kind of cooperation between these skills
>volcano is the only skill with TWO nextdelays, because FUCK volcano
>armageddon and volcano constantly missing
I still can't believe just how infuriatingly bad the fire druid is. The only upside is that it is really, really good in normal because of the decent area of effect at low levels.

>>5801230
It's an excellent leveling build. Unlike barbs, you actually have extremely effective builds to transition to.

>>5801230

Fire seems fucked in general anyways because of all the immunes in hell. I swear its majority fire. The sorc fire tree is actually the most powerful, but light is the most versitile (or godly geared meteorb).

>>5801270
>more than one build
>druid
Last time I checked there is only one effective druid build and using the word extremely is very questionable. Rabies is a shittier poison nova that paradoxically gets worse if you deal reasonable damage, fury is a shittier zeal, werebear is so bad that other characters are better at using it than the druid, the summoning is trash (outside of oak sage which is an aura that can awkwardly die or float out of your radius, fucking up your life), the entire fire tree is a sick joke that doesn't scale past normal and no one has ever used arctic blast outside of maybe some autistic level 9 PvPing and just for applying cold duration. And then you have the tornado build, the only real druid build, which functions about as accurately as a drunk guy taking a piss. The only reason you would ever use anything except for a windy druid is because you are a filthy hipster that wants to feel unique even though you are really just using hand-me-down versions of other better skills. The druid could be deleted and no one would care outside of a few niche sorceresses and assassins. The druid is mindboggling, an entire character and he has only three skills worth using past normal, and on top of that he has almost all of the worst breakpoints in the game.

>>5801335
>pure builds
there's your problem

>>5801208
Yes, the game would be dogshit boring without enigma.

>>5801362
>Yes, the game would be dogshit boring without enigma.
Just IMAGINE having an opinion this pathetic. Metafags deserve castration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0ikW7pVa_I

>>5801208
>enigma is bis for every build in the game
What did he meme by this???

>>5801402
Just imagine being an asshurt cuck over Enigma. Cope.

>>5801456
Hey, I'm not the one that freaked the fuck out. You started it, enigger. >>5801204

>>5801469
That was not me, and you're clearly being triggered just by seeing the word. I feel sorry for your autism.

Playing D2 for the first time in years.
BattleNet is pretty quiet. Seems like everyone jsut wants to rush through acts, grind cows, and join D2 Legacy Chants games for cows or Tristram runs.
No one talks in the chat, few people respond if you engage them in game.
It used to feel communal, there used to be joking and fucking around and actually playing through acts together. What's the point of it without those things? And does /vr/ play on BNet? (I play on US West).

>>5801495
Get plugy and work on your grail.

>>5801495
Seems like a large chunk of the people who still play moved on to sp and interact on chans, discords, or forums.

>>5801506
>>5801516
What is Pluggy and what is SP?

>>5801547
Plugy is a mod you need and SP means single player.

What's more efficient for Tyreals Might, baal runs or level 85 areas?

>>5801495
Ancient game, most people who still play are pretty autistic about it.

I generally replay in single player.

>>5801668
Running WSK and ending it with killing Baal.

Post nice drops cmon people

>>5788662
Not sure if the rule applies to League since it is under constant development.

>>5776921
Hey guys, I'm currently going through the first Diablo game and I have a really quick question I wasn't able to find the answer to with Google. I have Arkaine's Valor but Griswold doesn't seem to care much about it when I tell him I want him to repair it, which hasn't happened with any other items I've taken to him so far. Does that mean unique items are unable to be repaired or am I missing something?

>>5801495
>No one talks in the chat, few people respond if you engage them in game.
because they're all in one of the Diablo community discords talking on there.

>>5801934
sigh
fine

>>5801934
Absolutely bonkers drop right here.

>>5802168
>Griswold doesn't seem to care much about it when I tell him I want him to repair it
What the fuck does that even mean? What happens when you try to repair it? Or does it not even show in the menu?

>>5802692
Excellent. I need one to make Ber for Enigma.

>>5776921
Does anyone here play 1.07? If so what is the best item you found/crafted?

>>5780941

I used to use wands with teleport charges. Expensive to repair but made up for it with the whole speed and skeleton ball of death effect that teleport brings to a boss

>>5802692
>>5802965

>>5803485
Yes indeed, that's definitely where this one is going.

>>5804806
I don't know whether to be more envious of the dungos or the glide wrapper. Too many diablo windows will probably overheat my toaster but I should give it another go...

keeping this bad boy alive with a neat drop

>>5805437
and another WAY MORE interesting one, this is a new find for me. checking another one off the grail boys. i found the other sword for the first time last month

>>5805494
I had over two plugy stash tabs full of the colossus blade before I found my first of the other one and it was one of the last left in my grail. I still get a little pissed thinking about it.

>400 items into my grail
>still no homunculus
End me

>>5805954
I went four months without it, but got 3 Darkforce Spawns.

Are you supposed to do a grail on a single character?

>>5805959
No you don't have to.

>>5805959
No, I have my team of all 7 classes. As soon as I hit early 90s on one and get bored, I switch to another. I choose it based on items I get. Started with Summoner who doesn't need gear, then Blizz who needs some minimal shit, and then I switched to Hammerdin/Uber Smiter, Lightsorc and Javazon who are gear dependent when I got Griffon/Infinity etc. Will probably do IK WW Barb newt since I finished IK set and got Metalgrid.

>>5806101
>>5806271
Thanks anons!

>>5806271
This is good way to have incentive to find items rather than sticking to one shitty char like Llama's Sorc.

>>5805959
Do your grail in hc, pussy.
You won't.

>>5806271
does it really fucking count as completing a grail if you use giant 8 bot parties doing it for you

>>5806321
>>5806271
you use bots for the grail? Now that's pathetic. Just edit the fucking items in at that point. I bet you actually think you've achieved something.

>>5806318
I don't enjoy HC. Big fan of modding STALKER into a milsim and doing ironman challenges, but I enjoy D2 for the autistic long-term progress thing, and HC just doesn't jive with that for me.

>>5806384
>modding STALKER
Based.

>>5806321
>>5806326
lolwut I don't play with all chars at same time. Seethe tho.

>>5806326
>caring about how some random retard plays 20 year old single player game

Talk about pathetic.

>>5805959
you can if you want, but people mix it up on a few characters just to keep from going insane, because some characters are better or more fun at farming some areas than others.
Cold sorc? Ancient tunnels.
The pit? Pitzerker, WindyDruid, Poison Necro
Cows? Javazon
Wanna do ubers? Smite pally.
Pindle runs? Barb.

>>5776921

>>5806326
> I secretly desire to learn how2followbots
Happy to help, get tortoiseSVN and get kolton's D2BS here, it's better in SP than Etal. If you put in the hours setting all this shit up and writing your own custom attack patterns and everything, I assure you there is fuck-all, zero incentive to cheat even once.

>>5799550
I meant the projectiles themselves make narrow corridors, especially with abyss knights in hell difficulty where they are everywhere.

>>5807440
to expand on this, some people do it on meme builds for extra challenge, like the other Aussie who did it entirely on a Bowazon.
You could do it on melee Sorc, Singer Barb, afk-Auradin or Poison Dagger Necro if you wanted to make things spicy (and also unbearably slow).

anyone wonder if Dbrunski or Llama lurk/post here secretly but just dont admit it on stream for obvious reasons?
Also Xtitmus if you lurk here make your videos shorter. Your content is good but you take 25min to explain something you could've just said in 3-4min.

>>5808273
Don't think so. I reckon they are on Retarddit tho.

Btw, keep on posting cool drops. Only Sacred Armors left.

grail is coming along boys. last night i found sazabi's ghost liberator, tancred's weird, toch of iro, and ondal's almighty.

i'm going to try to knock out all of the set items next. unfortunately it's mostly the rarest ones I have left (obviously): set wise, I'm still missing:

M'av diadem + armor
Aldur Armor
Full Cow King Set
Trang helmet + belt
Tal Armor
Nat Claw
Gris Shield + Helm
tancred gloves

I'm going to focus on the higher level shit first. do you guys usually have more luck doing boss runs like baal / throne or running areas like the pit, cows, etc for high iLvl set items?

>>5808623
First rule of HG is not to look for anything, but enjoy playing game and then Pikachu Face when it drops rarest shit.

>>5808623
>Aldur Armor
These goddamn things drop all day long for me because I do endless baals and have no druid. As was mentioned, walk the WSK and kill Baal to get all the rare stuff. Quest bugging baal supposedly makes the runs about twice as effective, seems to me like it's more because of removal of NoDrops and the forceful upgrades. The only blues you get are base items without a valid set version.

>>5808653
Certainly, but you still have to spend all your time in the level 85 areas or ywn make Pikachu Face

>>5808761
>Quest bugging baal

This is a thing???????

>>5808787
If you have more than one character, the only reason not to do it is if you really hate the 15 second pause when making a LAN. The patriarch can make the game and open the cows, the champion can then kill baal and the king with impunity and get mad drops.

found a jah rune today. i already have enigma and i was thinking about making a freezing arrow / lightning fury hybridzon. seemed like ice would be a fun bow to use for this build if i can find a decent base. anyone here given ice a shot? and think i should just run 0 MF cows for a good base?

>>5808352
Iunno, Llama seems like a normalfag but Dbrunksi looks like he faps to /d/ threads.

>>5809614
Cows is fine, but if you can handle it, slamming through chaos is more rewarding.

I can't believe I just gambled this from Anya. Just wow.

>>5809624
dbrunski is a huge normalfag,he always talk about how his wife calls him a dumbass

>>5809857
>druid
Grats on the 35k

>>5810092
what about llama? i've only ever watched his World Record attempts and guides, not his normal streams.

>>5809857
fucking nice, anon

>thread's hitting page 10 in 50 minutes now
fuck all the infinitychan tourists and newfags from /v/

Reeeeeeeeee it was supposed to be golden not green!

>>5810642
i've always seen the unique colour as a shitty brown colour that's almost identicle to the yellow for rare items.
i wish they'd gone with something different like purple or something.

>>5810640
gookmoot added an automatic sage to all threads after 14 days

>>5810645
Who here remembers that runes used to be white?

>>5810667
yep. Now THAT was diablo.

>>5810667
>crafting used to be super broken
>charms used to be much stronger
>guided arrow could pierce for one patch
>blade sentinel, blade fury and blade shield used to deal no weapon damage
>traps used to be limited to 3
>both the assassin and druid used to be completely worthless
>both the assassin and druid would crash constantly from using cloak of shadows and upgrading werewolf/werebear form too high
>lightning mastery used to only give mana cost reduction
>lightning and chain lightning used to use attack speed instead of cast rate
>there used to be no skill delays
>items used to not give you exact values with shit like "faster hit recovery" versus "fastest hit recovery"
>there used to be only a few uniques and sets
>whirlwind would always attack at 12.5 attacks per second regardless of how many weapons or attack speed you had
If only we could go back...

>>5810738
>guided arrow could pierce for one patch
>there used to be no skill delays
I want these back, especially guided arrow. Solves the issue bowzons have with boss killing.

>>5810745
>two amazon builds
>one rendered fucking useless due to nerf
>never fix this

What a dumb shits.

>>5810773
You put crushing blow on your merc to melt bosses.

>>5810776
>melt
When compared to every other build who not only "melt" them with the merc but ALSO do significant damage on their own, you can shove your melt up your anus.

>>5810782
>every other build in the game melts bosses except bowzons
Delusional.

>>5810776
why would you wait 2 or 3 minutes for your merc to slowly plink a boss down as a bowazon when you can just 2-3 shot the boss with the lightning stabby javelin skill.

>>5810865
>2-3 minutes
What in the actual fuck?

>>5810773
Guided arrow wasn't even that good except in 1.09 because uniques and runewords were complete dogshit except for Windforce. It hit at a maximum of 6.25 times per second, the same as strafe. The difference of 3/4th weapon damage and full weapon damage is irrelevant when the majority of your bow damage against bosses in a post-1.09 world is crushing blow. And you definitely are not using piercing guided arrow for anything except bosses, so it serves no actual purpose.

>>5811003
shh let him believe

>>5811003
Make All Builds Efficient!

MAKE NEW THREAD

>>5810467
uhh he seems like a normal person
the only person who I would suspect to browse 4chan is the Iceman

Fuck efficiency. You cunts turn this game into a fucking job. Play what you find fun

>hurrr efficiency is fun
Shut up

>>5811075
???
theorycrafting is one of the most fun things about video games

>>5811075
>hurr wasting time is fun

You shut up.