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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5746276

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

Doom RPG series
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
https://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K
https://pastebin.com/idahQRj2

>> No.5753239

=== ONGOING ===

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Deadline: July 24th 23:00 GMT
-Final deadline extension
-All details and a FAQ can be found in the following pastebin to help get you started
https://pastebin.com/j8crafJN

=== NEWS ===

[7-21] Mapping contest with $250 prize: make a Prey 1996-themed map within one of numerous games
http://talonbrave.info/?p=1801

[7-20] Quake SM199 - five maps made by teams of two mappers
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61754

[7-19] Tim Willits leaves id Software, after being at the company for 24 years
https://twitter.com/TimWillits/status/1151870022421241857

[7-18] Aleph One may be getting better mouse support
https://github.com/Aleph-One-Marathon/alephone/releases/tag/release-20190331

[7-17] Copper Quake updates to 1.05
http://lunaran.com/copper/index.html

[7-17] Mapwinch RC1 released - 30 mappers randomly paired with each other to make 15 maps
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107249-come-eat-the-mapwich-a-collaborative-community-project-rc1-available/

[7-12] Ion Maiden deflowered into Ion Fury
https://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1619524466602443850

[7-8] New beta release for La Tailor Girl
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=390#p1110538

[7-4] Alien Bastards! a new Doomer Boards mapset inspired by Alien Carnage
http://doomer.boards.net/thread/1541/dbp13-alien

[7-3] Quake Speedmapping Pack 198: 768 ^ 2
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61748

[7-1] Anon updates 'Demon CounterStrike' to fix Rocket Launcher spawns
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/5701806/#5702668

[6-29] Anon map release: TESTINGGROUND.wad
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehkggu5q3p4n8jp/TESTINGGROUND.wad?dl=0

=== PREVIOUS ===

https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5753283

Which /vr/ megawads should I play?

>> No.5753289
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I stopped enjoying this days ago...

>> No.5753290

>>5753289
Pretty cool, how did you make the ladders?

>> No.5753298

>>5753290
there is an invisible stair with 1 unit long steps

>> No.5753310

>>5753289
This is looking just fine. Good choice on remaking the first level from Goldeneye

>>5753283
Scythe 1 & 2
Going Down
Epic 2
Ultimate Torment and Torture
Valiant

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>>5753238

>> No.5753334

>>5753283
Alien Vendetta.
Mind that you don't need to play it on UV, because it actually goes balls to the walls hard on that difficulty.

>> No.5753368

>>5753238
Bad pic is bad

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>>5753368

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Might as well post it here, this is another frankensprite i've done, it's remake of an old one i've did.

>> No.5753385

what fps has the best secrets

>> No.5753391

>>5753310
>>5753334
Thanks, will play those, but here I meant levels made by /vr/

>> No.5753406

>>5753391
Then go for 300 hours of /vr/.

>> No.5753415

So, fucking VIS, how does it work? I am still doing the space station, which has windows.
I put the whole thing in a box made from sky brushes. Ofc VIS now takes forever. I heard you can use detail brushes to alleviate vis computing - does that mean I should make all non-function brushes details inside the box? E.g. even the outer walls of the station and such? I mean, it's still not even a minute or so, but it's kind annoying when testing.

>> No.5753434

>>5753406
>300 hours
wew lad

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looks like graf finally fucking lost it

>> No.5753441

>>5753435
and also turned orange and scottish.

>> No.5753445

>stuck
>let's just use give all keys
>it gives me fucking everything

>> No.5753448

>>5753375
imagine the smell

>> No.5753449

Daily reminder that the Doom community still can't make commercial quality mapsets like Sigil or NRFTL.

>> No.5753451

>>5753445
next time just do "give keys"

>> No.5753456

>>5753451
Thanks

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Why is House of the Hell Nobles such a cozy/atmospheric map?

Probably one of my favorites.

>> No.5753593

I know I'm late to the party, but I recently tried out Arcane Dimensions and holy fucking shit is it amazing. The amount of detail and work put into the maps is just astonishing, I highly recommend anyone that has even a shred of interest for Quake to give it a shot. Definitely was a better experience than playing DUSK anyway.

>> No.5753615

Sector bathrooms are holy?

>> No.5753683

>Guncaster vindicated
>Guncaster 3.3

Which one do I want? Any big differences?
I thought if I'm going to play 1000 maps in a single pk3 I might as well go with the gameplay mod that has a leveling mechanic.

>> No.5753691

>>5753683
>search archive
>one anon here said Vindicated is better and more challenging
I'll trust you anon.

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Cheers Anons,

this is my second map for HUH. It's a small, quick and easy techbase map.
Please let me know what you think and especially if you found any bugs/sequence breaks/whatever.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m7lgh6qekampfw7/hangar8.zip?dl=0

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>>5753449
stfu

>> No.5753878

>>5753869
based

>> No.5753889

Seriously why ZDL doesn't keep gzdoom settings for each /zdl configs

>> No.5753902

>>5753840
blessed double dip anon

>> No.5753927

>>5753878
based and doompilled

>> No.5753950

I hear anon likes his maps with extra fireblu

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>new Martinoz vid is up

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Doom Eternal mod when?

>> No.5753995

>>5753878
>>5753927
Based on what?

>> No.5754009
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>>5753969
Doom Eternal EXP is pretty good.

I would wait for DBT to make a mod about it.
Death Foretold with certain addons is excellent.

>> No.5754024

>>5754009
Isn't Doom Eternal EXP that one mod that's just crammed up the ass with random features and sound effects, like random Mario sounds when gaining XP and levelling up? Also featuring a really fucking ugly Crucible sword?

>> No.5754027
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>Notice there's a Vanilla addon for D4T
>It's classic Doom monsters but the glory kills and general gameplay are intact

I wonder could be possible make an universal addon for all monster packs?
Dinosaur Nerd did it with Guncaster

>>5753691
You can still change the player and enemy damage in regular Guncaster but Vindicated tries to make it less OP.
Yes, the whole point is being powerful but use only few these wonderful weapons to get rid of the opponents is kinda of a waste.

>> No.5754031

>>5754009
>Doom Eternal EXP
you can't be serious

>> No.5754037

>>5754024
I played the first versions of the mod so I don't know if certain things are changed.
IIRC you can change the sound effects but those features like Tilt++ are there.

Many modders seems to randomly shoving them in these days. Oh well at least they credit the creators.

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>>5754024
Seems true to Doom Eternal

>> No.5754046

>>5754027
I like D4T but prefer Brutal Doom/Project Brutalitie's monster ai

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>>5754038
Why couldn't they just keep that great HUD shown on Quakecon?
This bright multicolored HUD is kinda fugly

>> No.5754058

>>5754037
It's because he's part of the newer modders, their approach to doom modding is "How much shit can I humanly cram into my mod?" Without stopping to consider what actually benefits what they're trying to do.

>>5754038
Nah. Eternal's going for a bright garish HUD and more arcade style gameplay, they've streamlined some of the shit from Doom 4, like removing some of the equipment items and just giving you two of them which are bound to their own buttons. Doom Eternal EXP is just as much random shit they can cram in, along with extra addon mods people have made over the years, thrown in just because obviously more shit is better

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my eyes

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>>5754071
You just broke settings.

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>>5754058
>Their approach to doom modding is "How much shit can I humanly cram into my mod?"

I despise that. I'm all for different playstyles and options but when it starts to feel so cluttered with stuff that doesn't match,it becomes a really unpleasent experience.
I just hope those kinds who fall in love with those Project Brutality/Brutal Doom videos don't follow that mindset.

No wonder nobody hired Sgt. Marky Mark to help create a game

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>>5754071
>>5754091
keep it on the down low boys but here's a sneak peek at the upcoming HUD for the next Doom Eternal EXP update

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>>5754098

>> No.5754147

Can you recommend good wads with a futuristic city setting? I suck at mapping and want to get some inspiration.

>> No.5754164
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>Be Sgt.Mark IV
>You release the latest version of BD
>Say it's gonna be the last one and going to focus on other mods
>All your unfinished projects were taken over by other modders and ended up being better than anything you could possibly come up with
>Your track record has two mods and are essentially the same thing
>You want to continue Brutal Wolfenstein 3D because the creator gave up
>You still didn't do anything with it
>You can't take constructive criticism or any feedback whatsoever because you're banned from most forums and Doom related places
>The only places where you take them are Moddb or Patreon
>Nobody asked you to help to create a game
>While the Quake 1.5. modder and goddamn HDoomguy actually got hired for Wrath and Ion Fury respectively
>Your fans are mostly children or newbies
>They still think you made the greatest mod in existence

Holy shit this guy is a mess

>> No.5754169

>>5754147
Diabolus Ex is an excellent wad,it's not set in a city but in a building and is inspired by Deus Ex.
Hellbound has some cool city levels too,they're huge.

>> No.5754181

>>5754098
Looks like an EVE Online Excel spreadsheet, anon.

>> No.5754187

>>5754169
They look promising, will check it out, thanks.

>> No.5754190

Is there something like Oblige but for Quake or Unreal?

>> No.5754198

>>5753869
Redemption of the Slain is better than this shit.

>> No.5754208

>>5754164
Internet tends to create those kinds of pseudo-celebs, you just described every successful webcomic creator.

>> No.5754210

>>5753435
what happened?

>> No.5754243

>>5754098
is this a modded stellaris ui?

>> No.5754248

>>5754164
>While the Quake 1.5. modder and goddamn HDoomguy actually got hired for Wrath and Ion Fury respectively
mike and bloodshot the champs

wait
> mike12
> bloodshot12
> 12
we cracked the code
you need a username that ends in 12

>> No.5754256

>>5753840
Friendly reminder that you can still give your feedback to this map.

>> No.5754257

good megawads for HD, help me out, so many toss so many zombies from the get go

>> No.5754287
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>>5753963
Who?

>> No.5754306

>>5753963
>rrrreeeveeeerrrbbbb

>> No.5754307

how come doom has so many trans doomers?

>> No.5754310

>>5754164
Real men play Project Brutality

>> No.5754313

>>5754164
>While the Quake 1.5. modder and goddamn HDoomguy actually got hired for Wrath and Ion Fury respectively
Based

>> No.5754315

>>5754164
Why is he banned?

Is he an actual ass or did he trigger the pc/sjw crowd?

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>>5746350
>>5746276
diff guy here,but here go

>> No.5754335

>>5754310
t. 15 year old

>>5754315
A boy said on Zdoom Forums he wanted to kill himself and like the edgelord he was he linked to a website on how to kill yourself.
Even if the guy was trolling,it was still an asshole move.
Then because he has a really toxic behavior and far from likeable. He said he's changed but then again he put a virus in his Extermination Day mod in case you want it to run with Project Brutality(now it's removed)
He said it was a message to PB devs......by damaging some poor bastard who just wanted to have fun.
Because asking his fans to play it with BD for feedback was too difficult to process for him.

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What are the gameplay mods with the most satisfying weapons in your opinion?

>> No.5754392

>>5754362
Hideous Destructor has some really excellent feeling weapons, along with Final Doomer.

>> No.5754394

>>5754335
t. boomer puritan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-irWf2PD6w

>> No.5754431

>>5754394
>t. 13 year old zoomer

>> No.5754465

>>5754362
PB3.

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>>5753889
Just use DoomRunner, you can pick configs for each preset, if that's what you mean.

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>>5754056
not only that bit they made a number of changes for the sake of change. most of their new design choices are... questionable.

though bare bicep doomguy is unequivocally better than the 2016 master chief design, good call there. fuck reddit and anyone who thinks otherwise.

>> No.5754486

>>5754480
There's nothing wrong with the 2016 suit.

>> No.5754490

>>5754486
>t. John 117

>> No.5754492

Any other big ass compilations like the Compendium? I'm really enjoying it so far and a compilation for the more modern wads would be neat

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>>5754486
It isn't bad but it's just not that memorable,it feels quite generic. Nothing about it stands out.

Eternal DoomSlayer is like a modern remake of Classic Doomguy armour,which is exactly what it should've been from the start.
It's more detailed and more "loud" but it fits far more with the tone and atmosphere of the game.
>>5754480
What if they did it on purpose to see the audience reaction and see their feedback kinda like asking "which one is better?"

>> No.5754501

>>5753238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXwevR52t5k

challenger appears

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>not one but two anons added a second map
I love you homos

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>>5754486
It's too safe. Superficially, the only things separating it from Spartan armor is the visor color, the specks of orange on the body, and the red nipple light. Eternal still looks a bit Halo-ey since it's just a redesign of 2016, but it's got Predator gear and a bit more crazy.
I'll take unabashed edgelord over generic sci-fi.

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>>5754480
The new armor is good

>> No.5754581

>>5754480
the subreddit is full of morons.

>> No.5754584

>>5754575
Is that the collector's statue? Holy fuck, it looks infinitely better than the abomination of
>>>/toy/7625216
but it's to be expected, considering that the figure is like 20 bones and the statue is somewhere in the triple digits.

>> No.5754589

>>5754571
Spartan armor was a rip from doom guy and quake man anyway

>> No.5754592

>>5754584
Same figure, but with a better custom paint job and not-shit lighting

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>>5754571
When you put them side by side. 2016 Doomslayer really looks weak.
He seems so small,while Eternal Slayer is like a bodybuilder,kinda like Duke Nukem.
It feels far more recognizable, 2016 Slayer,you could slap it on something like Destiny or Halo and no one would notice the difference.

>>5754581
I know it's a trend saying "hurr reddit bad". But seriously r/doom is trash. It's full of contrarians,worse that you can find here.
They act so smug and love to spam those crappy memes.

>>5754589
Inspired. But I was never a fan of the Spartan armour,with each new version it has more unnecessary details.

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>>5754589
Yes, but Halo became immensely more popular and stayed that way for many years, thanks to sequels, prequels and spinoffs. So when the average person (average relative to vidya) thinks of a green space marine, they think of Master Chief, and when they see reboot Doomguy, they'll call him a ripoff.
I think they should've made him just a dude in a vest and leather instead of power armor, and keep the general color scheme to make him stand out.

>> No.5754618

>>5754609
god that shit is great
everyone goes on about the doom three and doom one armor remakes, but the quake three variant is so good

>> No.5754620

>>5754592
>>5754584

>>5754575's figure is not McFarlane but Chronicle Collections, much better model

https://chroniclecollectibles.com/

The model hasn't been put up yet though

>> No.5754623

>>5754472
thanks

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>>5754620

>all those 800 USD+ models

Fuck

>> No.5754630

>>5754490
I haven't read the bible, you'll have to quote that one in full for me.

>>5754494
Maybe it's because I think of Doomguy and Doomslayer as different characters.

One's a guy in normal combat gear and he just happens to be the baddest warrior in the world, the other is some kind of demi-god that exists to Kill The Demons, and I kind of liked how the 2016 armor made him look far more anonymous, and in a way, almost like a knight in full armor.
The bare arms and midriff suits classic Doomguy more IMO.

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>>5754632
I'll say that Eternal Doomslayer still looks good, I just kind of fell in love with his 2016 look.

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>>5754636
I'm amazed by the staying power this design has, I dismissed it at first "oh yeah people will forget this halo shit as soon as the game drops" but it seems to stick around for some reason

I vastly prefer the classic design but eh I dont mind really

>> No.5754645

>>5754630
I still like to believe they're the same person.
The fact that a man managed to kick demon asses back and forth so bad that he ended up becoming the boogeyman for them sounds amazing to me but to each their own.

Id Software said they're still open that it might be true,in Eternal we will finally get our answer.
The lore was well done in 2016 so I have faith

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>>5754632

>> No.5754647

>>5754642
These artworks are amazing but it's funny how these 3 final boss fights progressively get worse.

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>>5754646
>>5754632
plebs

>> No.5754661

>>5754642
I overall like classic Doom more than the new Doom, I'm just saying for the new Doom, I prefer them going for more of their own identity than imitating the classic.
I kinda like that they're paying some homage to the original designs with Eternal, but if they do another Doom game after that, I kind of want them to explore another design direction again.

>> No.5754671

>>5754645
I can see the appeal in that idea, I'm just talking about my own headcanon.

>> No.5754685

On the topic of armor, I like how inconsistent the official marine design is. And for that, the monsters too. I don't know why, I just find it neat that there are so many official interpretations of them. Lets fanart go wild with ideas. Just look at Doomguy himself. He's got like, 5 different facial appearances.

>> No.5754690

>>5753238
Quake but its a graphic adventure game.

>> No.5754693

>>5754571
he looked so fucking scrawny and nondescript in 2016. like nothing about his design really stood out in regards to details and lasting presence. beats me how some folks could dig the generic full body space marine approach, but more power to them I guess. I'm more of the idea they should go for full on gloves as per the classic games.

the only two things I'm really not feeling are the asymmetric design of his armor, and the green helmet. like the fuck is that orange stripe running across his shoulder for? and that big goofy gauntlet almost completely covering his left arm. why not just have the blade glove graft onto his elbow or something.

>> No.5754697

>>5754571
My least favorite part about the 2016 design is that his legs are just stumps. There's too much armor around his ankles.

>> No.5754702

>Blood E2M5
>clear out the mansion fairly quickly
>spend 20 minutes looking for the skull key
>find out via YouTube that it was in the wine cellar I permanently blocked off with TNT
>also find out I need jump boots to get the moon key on the top floor bedroom
>forced to restart from last save on E2M4
Fucking game

>> No.5754705

>>5754685
Doomguy himself is pretty inconsistent

Black gloves in the cover and ending of Thy Flesh Consumed
Brown during gameplay and takes his glove during a melee attack for some reason.
He has a short haircut in the mugshot but he's shaved in that ending.

These are just minor nothing big. But yeah I liked that,it really gives a big variety to the franchise,either good or bad.

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>>5754685

>> No.5754720

>>5754715
I still don't know what the fuck is up with Doom II's haircut.

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>>5754720
It was a 90s thing.

>> No.5754736
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>have idea for map
>start off full of ideas and drive, work at a great pace and finish half of it within a few days
>suddenly lose inspiration and drawing or texturing anything feels like a huge chore
LITERALLY every time

>> No.5754802

>>5754058
>they've streamlined some of the shit from Doom 4
Like adding shoulder cannons and shotgun chains and shit. Sure.
There are some questionable changes imo. The HUD is the least offensive thing. The floating powerup symbols and extra lives are worrying.

>> No.5754803

>>5753969
you could go with mods that just remind you of the game like metadoom or d4t until the game's out and both mods get something out of it
still surprised that a lot of these "pre eternal" mods range from meh to "jesus fucking christ why?"
>>5754164
don't forget his coding skills too
>>5754589
the idea of doom copying halo despite halo having any bit of inspiration from doom (same kinda for marathon) reminds me of how uncharted was said to be a rip off of tomb raider before that series became an uncharted clone
>>5754480
the point of the new hud and pick ups is because of "feedback" so players get to be more aware of shit during the gameplay, since that's a lesson they learned from older designs like the blue bottles
problem is that making them glow like that feels weird even by doom standards
i think the worst one is the question mark
it doesn't fit in anything doom related and feels so lazy

>> No.5754819

>>5754802
I mean mechanically the shoulder cannon is just a new way to contextualize the subweapons from Doom 4, and that got streamlined as we only have two now: The flamethrower and grenades, at least from what we've seen so far. As for the hookshot on the SSG, I think that's a great addition to the roster of abilities seeing as it turns enemies into points for more mobility.
I'm also fine with the big floating powerups and shit. I mean fuck all of the items in Doom 4 had a neon glow to them. Ultimately it shouldn't matter as long the gameplay keeps the same flow as it in Doom 4, though hopefully better this time around. It looks like we'll be dealing with the arena shit again, which is bit of a downer but I guess that's to be expect at this point, and really if I need a fix for traditional Doom gameplay, I got a gorillion user WADs to choose from.

>> No.5754824
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This is how Doomguy should look like.

>> No.5754860

that guy that was making Doom 2016 in Quake.... holy fucking shit that was amazing. Even just his demo of it had the most original art I've ever seen in the Quake engine.

>> No.5754864

>>5754819
I LIKE the big floating powerups and shit. I never played Doom 2016 though but I fucking hate having to look at overcomplicated ground textures trying to discern if there's a gun there or not, versus the blatantly obvious color contrast in older games. That alone was a selling point of Doom Eternal for me.

>> No.5754874

>>5754860
>Even just his demo of it had the most original art I've ever seen in the Quake engine.
so do you play with your eyes closed, or have you severely misunderstood what the word 'original' means?

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>>5753435
ugh
I feel like I've already given up on Doom as a whole because of his antics. I don't understand why I should have to load up on previous versions of GZDoom just because the prick no longer prioritizes backwards compatibility features.
What's the chickenshit done this time?

>> No.5754887

>>5754210
>>5754876
He's making a joke by using some picture from the same source material that Graf's avatar came from.

Calm down just a little bit.

>> No.5754891

>>5754824
Smeagle head-ass

>> No.5754893

>>5754480
I like that they're shooting for more visual distinction for items and the like but it shouldn't excuse having everything be full bright all the time. it's not 'easy to tell apart', it's garish and really only fucks with my eyes more than it should help.

>> No.5754903

>>5754874
Never played Doom 2016 so fuck it it's original to me. Every other Quake mod is just new levels with a few extra textures and models thrown in there, and sometimes a whole new gameplay mechanic but still looking similar.

>> No.5754905

>>5754893
It looks worse in static images, but I think it's fine in motion.

>> No.5754908

>>5754893
I disagree. It's a video game and I think straying away from the super contrast of items in games like the original Doom was a mistake.

>> No.5754909

>>5754715
The guy on the doom 2 title screen is just a sergeant I think

>> No.5754912

>>5754887
Expecting rationality out of a 4channer is like expecting diarrhea not to stink.

>> No.5754914

>>5754908
items in old Doom looked more like they did in the left image than the right is my point.

>> No.5754917

>>5754912
This website isn't 100% full of gaggling retards you know.

>> No.5754919

>>5754917
It varies by board.

>> No.5754925

>>5754919
Exactly, and I like to think we have a few good people here on /vr/ and especially here on the doom threads. Though sometimes it doesn't feel that way.
To change the topic, you guys looking forward to the final doomer update? The new sets look fun

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>>5754917

>> No.5754937

>>5754912
doors right there buddy

>> No.5754938

>>5754392
>Hideous Destructor has some really excellent feeling weapons
More like panic inducing

>get BFG
>oh fuck oh fuck please warm up faster oh fuck oh fuck
>shoots green ball of goodness
>oh fuck oh fuck please don't curve into that box oh shit oh fuck there's still so many baddies I should have aimed higher oh god

Or my favorite
>get ambushed and spray ZM66
>OH FUCK PLEASE STOP COOKING OFF OH GOD

Still love HD to death though

>> No.5754941

>>5754938
I find the ZM66 satisfying when it's not being a space age piece of shit and jamming/cooking.
But really it's the shotgun that feels good to use.

>> No.5754981

>>5754938
Vulcanette is godlike.

>> No.5755030

>>5754941
The hyperburst is freaking great.
The shotgun is so good, especially the full auto variant, it's so fun to dump the tube down a corridor.

>>5754981
It is, but I can never remember to spin it up a bit to chamber rounds before continuing on whenever I find a fresh, unused one.

I wish I can get used to the plasmagun, I can never kill anything without using the full charge blast

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Apparently the creator of Doom Slayer Chonicles and The Cult Hunter made a mapset for Blood called simply The Cult. Those other projects seem pretty vasyan-y but this is actually not bad. It's just some really solid Blood levels. Beware though, he really likes the Blood E1 philosophy of "cultist around every corner".

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Doomers, what's your favorite 'gameplay' mod and why?
I read some anons saying good things about Hideous destructor.
But If you're going to say 'brutal' something I hope you'll not be trolling and explain yourself.

>> No.5755129

>>5755125
Final Doomer for all the classes. They can really change up how you play, and they’re pretty good when you match them up with the WADs they were based on.

>> No.5755149

>>5755071
I mean, sure.
Say what you want about Sgt. Mark for example (and there's a lot to say), but his submission for 200 Minutes Of /vr/ was great and one of the best maps in the set.

I think some of these people actually could probably make some pretty solid maps for some games based around more vanilla gameplay, it's just that they rarely do.

>> No.5755172

>>5754864
I'm not against them being large and floating per se. I'm against them being literal video game icons like question marks and 1UPs. Doom at least made them floating ethereal spheres and shit.

>> No.5755186

>>5755129
Thanks dude, I'm planning on get it on.

>> No.5755190

Years ago I had a flashlight mod for Doom 3. It wasn't the shoulder lamp or the ducttape mod. It gave every weapon a unique light. For instance the shotgun had a big and shallow light and the MG a narrow and focused light while the pistol only had a tiny red laser pointer and the plasma gun had a dull, big, blue light. I know everyone just says to play the BFG edition, but the different gun lights really made a subtle and nice difference to the game. I can't find it anywhere because all that ever comes up when you search for Doom 3 and "gun light" or "flashlight" is the duct tape mod.

>> No.5755192

>>5754362
What is Mixom?

>> No.5755204

>>5755190
Nevermind I'm gay and retarded and found it right after I posted. It's VariLight.

>> No.5755205

>>5755192
the company that accidentally shipped chainsaws to Mars, I think

>> No.5755208

>>5755192
It's like buxom but monstrous.

>> No.5755212

>>5755204
No problemo amigomo

>> No.5755218

>>5755190
I tried Prey out (the game delayed from 1996 apparently) because it was in the thread yesterday. It's way more fun than Doom 3. If only it weren't so goddamn linear, it'd be better than Doom 3.

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>>5755125
Hideous Destructor is my favorite Doom mod, bar-none. Nothing else even comes close.

Sure, I like me some fun OP mods like High Noon Drifter or Final Doomer, but the novelty wears off quick since the challenge is rather watered down.

But Hideous Destructor? It's basically a completely different game to me, just with the Doom skin on. Every map completed feels like a conquest. You definitely feel like the underdog, and the struggle is harsh but doable. You have the tools and get-out-of-jail-for-free cards to deal with many seemingly unwinnable situations. I love what stark a contrast it is going from a vanilla Doom session to going to a HD Doom session. Not that either is better or worse, they're just totally different beasts.

>> No.5755292

>>5755192
A literal trash company. Moxim though, now those guys are good.

>> No.5755309

What's Romero's 3 best maps, /vr/?

>> No.5755313
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>Used to play Doom with Freelook and Jump all the time
>Doomdads on /v/ thread chastised me and pointed out Doom looks like distorted shit when you free look
>Now when I play mods I get immensely bothered with freelook

Gee thanks guys, now non-vanilla mods feel wrong to me.

>> No.5755326

>>5755313
>I am influenced by public opinion to a ridiculous degree

>> No.5755328

>>5755313
Just play however you like, bro.

>> No.5755335

>>5755326
>>5755328
It's just looking high up or down annoys the shit outta me, which is hilarious now since I grew up playing Doom with Free Look.

>> No.5755348

>>5755313
With mods you still break the game, so you can play with freelook too. Only in vanilla freelook not acceptable.

John Romero called mouselookers cheaters
https://twitter.com/romero/status/1133068627987619845

>> No.5755362

>>5755313
>>5755335
only on zdoom whose development has long since been discontinued. get Graf Zahl® Doom (or GZDoom for short).

>> No.5755373

>>5755292
Fuck yeah, Moxim up in this bitch!
The Mixom Beavertooth is a pretty alright piece of kit tho

>>5755309
E1M7, Map 11, and Map 29, especially Map 29.
Oh right, he made some new ones, uh, not sure how I'd tier those yet actually.

>> No.5755374

What was it like when Quake first came out?

>> No.5755384

>>5755313
>Doomdads on /v/ thread chastised me and pointed out Doom looks like distorted shit when you free look
Why would you take opinions from /v/ to heart?
If you wanna get rid of the distortion, run it in OpenGL, if you want the classic lighting there's ways to set that up.

>Now when I play mods I get immensely bothered with freelook
Again, why? With gameplay mods you're already changing all the rules, most of them are likely made under the assumption that you WILL be using freelook.
If you're doing just vanilla gameplay, yeah, freelook is maybe out of place, but with mods all bets are off.

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https://streamable.com/58rru

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>>5755374
I was like "niggurath please".
(I was totally into Quake and Descent at the time, good times.)

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>>5755394
I knew it. Space Pirate still lives.

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>>5755394
Oh shit

>> No.5755403

>>5755225
Acknowledged man, thanks, great pitch, I'm downloading it right now.

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>>5753238
If you could recommend one fanmade mappack or campaign for Quake (that isn't AD) above all others, what would you choose?

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>>5755394

>> No.5755410

>>5755404
DOPA was alright. Have actually just gotten into Quake beyond its original SP campaign, so it's all I can recommend, but I'm sure some others have suggestions.

QUMP was supposed to be pretty good I hear.
Also, this general is actually putting together a Quake map pack, and it's due in August, so check that out later.

>> No.5755413

>>5755313
First off, I highly doubt "doomdads" are out there browsing /v/. Probably teenagers trying to seem mature. Secondly, view is only distorted in the software renderer. It looks good/normal looking up in the GL renderer.

>> No.5755415

>>5755225
I really respect that it makes the monsters absolute bastards.
The combo of 'realistic' tactical combat and straight up demons from hell made more dangerous than ever is great, you don't really see that mix anywhere else.

>> No.5755427

>>5755348
John Romero also said Dai-Katana would be the best game ever

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>>5755394
So happy to see this back and looking so pretty. Such beautiful spritework.

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I think author of this mod is trying to tell us something.

>> No.5755485

>>5755313
Having to rely on vertical autoaim to actually do what you want after having played with freelook for a while feels incredibly shitty and just adds challenge in a really unfun way.
I'd rather just refrain from shooting enemies I normally couldn't see to not break the game completely than put up with that shit.

>> No.5755495

>>5755190
so okay I'm playing Doom 3 and I like it, especially with my stupid meme varilight mod. It's my guilty pleasure. But holy fuck why are the numbers so messed up in the difficulties? There has to be a way to change it. Normal and Veteran have 0 changes in monster behaviors or numbers. But in Veteran you take 70% more damage. That's fucking nuts. Normal is way too easy in comparison, you take 10% less damage. I haven't died yet in Veteran but a single zombie marine with a shotgun can take me down from 100 health to 30 health before I kill him, if I don't have a nice spot to peak around and take potshots at him, and that's with armor. It's fucking ridiculous. If anyone knows how to tweak damage numbers I'd really appreciate it, because taking almost 3/4ths more damage is just absurd. Even 50% extra damage taken would be much better.

And honestly if the shotgun spread wasn't so abysmal it probably wouldn't be an issue so far, if I'm a full body length away from a guy most of the pellets miss.

>> No.5755530

Finished Going Down. One of the funnest wads I've played. Think my skills have improved because of it. What's next challenge-wise?

>> No.5755546

>>5755404
Honey is one of my all time favorites. It's just two huge ass maps though.

>> No.5755547

>>5755404
rubicon rumble

>> No.5755550

>>5755394
>>5755448

This honestly looks like garbage.

t. real Artist(not meme sprite "artist")

>> No.5755552

>>5755550
Alright, (you) had better show your stuff then. Or you can take it back to /agdg/ to larp.

>> No.5755553

>>5755394
I am fully erect

>> No.5755556

>>5755362
>get Graf Zahl® Doom (or GZDoom for short)
How the fuck did I not realise that. I always thought the added G was just a short for GL.

>> No.5755559

>playing Scythe
>suddenly can't jump after the part where you finish a level by exploding to bits
Ok.

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>>5755550
>t. Real Artist

>> No.5755564

>>5755530
Dimension of the Boomed.
A remake of Quake episode 1

>> No.5755573
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Imagine a Quake reboot(we've discussed that in previous threads) but it's not just Shub Niggurath but you fight the other elder gods.

>> No.5755617

Is there a single game out there that lets you moves as fast as in Quake ?

>> No.5755619

>>5755617
Counter strike surfing levels. Woosh!

>> No.5755620

>>5755404
As much hate as it gets here, I still love The Unforgiven. Also DOPA was good, but very hard at the very end. Oh and Func Map Jam X is great (check out "Filtration Station")

>> No.5755624

>>5755619
Does Counter Strike have any single player options? I need single-player.

>> No.5755628

>>5753449
i never understand the thought process behind weird troll posts like this which are so absurd that no one can take them seriously

>> No.5755631

>>5755624
Yeah just download a surfing map and play it locally. It might be a bit lonely though

>> No.5755642

>>5755631
Oh I get it. It's just Slide but for Counter Strike.
Are there any other FPS games, any at all, that let you move as fast as Quake?

>> No.5755643

>>5755617
Bots.

>> No.5755646

>>5755643
Oops. Meant for >>5755624

>> No.5755651

>>5754690
Type HUH! repeatedly in rapid succession to bunnyhop.

>> No.5755657

>>5755643
>>5755646
Alright well I've set up bots. Any other games?

>> No.5755658 [DELETED] 

>>5754307
>how come doom has so many trans doomers?

1) warm childhood memories that a person can fall back on when their life becomes increasingly difficult
2) runs on basically any computer (trans people are statistically very poor)
3) the classic doom community predates modern internet capitalism so it's not a horrible corporate nightmare trying to give you status anxiety, FOMO, etc
4) there are numerous "out" doomers and the non-anon parts of the community are largely inclusive and tolerant so it's more likely that trans people will come out to the community

>> No.5755660

I wanted to give Guncaster a try but the title screen art was too cringe.

>> No.5755662

Mister so you wanna play some doom & quake finished to edit this BPL video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5m5HS9ruF0

>> No.5755676

>>5755660
ok

>> No.5755720

>>5755660
>The title screen
Which one? Different ones pop out.
It's a fun mod and don't judge a book by the cover

>> No.5755731

>>5755720
I realized I really, really didn't want to play as some sort of small running-gunning dragon especially while playing Doom. I played it a little bit, it's fine until I heard all the Raaawwrr and other effects.

>> No.5755743

>>5755617
Maybe Rise Of The Triad if you play as Lorelei

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>>5755662

I gotta thank you boys again for the drawings.

Also I should note one thing: I'm just as incompetent when it comes to video editing as am I organizing things, why is this relevant? because I'm also the buffoon organizing the HUH.

Long story short I'm having troubles with my laptop (the charger is busted and I'm short in cash for this week) so in the meantime I'll have to make do with somebody else's computer, not a huge setback all things considered, but i'ts going to be pretty annoying to work on the hub like this.
plus my own friggin' map, I put it aside while I was working on that video and I was planning to abuse my status as the organizer to finish both after the deadline
I had it coming really, I got cocky and it bit me in the ass

Just in case I'm going to upload all the maps here after the deadline ends, so somebody can take over the project if I'm out of commission for whatever reason, but I'm hopeful I'll get this sorted out soon.

>> No.5755798

So, going through a Lithtech shooters binge. Finished Blood 2 and Shogo. Here are my thoughts.

>Blood 2
"You'll die a slow, slow death", the biggest sack of bullshit in the universe, because you die very, very quick on this game. Hitscan enemies have perfect accuracy and zero reaction time, it's much worse than in Blood 1, and unlike that game, crouching does nothing. The cultists abandoned their robes and dress in modern military gear, and seen to have adapted to your tactics from the first game. Their behavior is like the Monolith faction (no pun intended) in Stalker. Enemies with explosives are horribly broken, because the blast radius is huge and goes through walls, the only possible cover is staying far away, which is not always possible because the game loves to spawn these enemies in tight corners. But when YOU gain possession of explosive weapons, they're piss weak, won't even gib a basic enemy in one shot. There's also these insectoid enemies that spit acid on you, they weren't a problem at first, but then the game starting spamming them just behind you when you're already busy fighting something else, fuck that shit. Finally, there's a serious problem with utter lack of health, had to use cheats sometimes for getting stuck with 2hp just before a fight with unavoidable damage. It's odd because there is a solution for the problem, the life leech, but the game only gives it very late.

>> No.5755802

>>5755792
Do not fret, even the ones that are hosting Mayhem are having a fever issue, hopefully you both are able to get back on track when you can!

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TEACH Tex on how to remove texture filtering

>> No.5755804

>>5755792
Whatever you do, PLEASE don't prolong the deadline. I feel like the hype has almost completely died down already and people are back arguing about community bullshit again. I finally want to play all the maps, especially the ones not posted here yet. They were almost all pretty enjoyable.

btw, I'd still like to have some feedback on my map, so anybody who has some time can give it a shot. >>5753840

>> No.5755806

>>5755802
Oh I nagged him plenty about that, but the footage was already recorded it just took me a while to edit each episode

>>5755804
Oh yeah there will be no more deadlines, that ship has sailed
Sorry about not being there to provide much feedback, I just wanted to play all the maps after finishing my own stuff, just in case I would be tempted to rip off and repurpose architecture, I couldn't be arsed to make a round portal so I just stole one from the original id levels

>> No.5755808

can one easily host a lan server in doomseeker? I mean just simply making a lan server and it appears on other pcs connected to same network like in counter strike and quake 3 at most one can connect to the server by putting local router ip. if no what's the easiest way to host a lan server with custom wads.

also something related to it, I remember playing on a random server on doomseeker way back. it was a deathmatch(instant respawn) and everyone had nothing but railgun from the start and there were no weapons on stage floor, I know skulltag actors have the railgun but I don't know how would I replicate other features of that server, does anyone know what wads or stuff might have been used in that server

>> No.5755814

>>5755798
>Shogo
It's amazing, despite being release before Blood 2, and running an earlier version of the same engine, it runs much better, requiring no fix, while I had to spend a few hours fixing Blood 2. Still crashed a few times. It's a pretty short game, and you also die very quick, but it's not nearly as bad as Blood 2. Just quick save before turning every corner and start shooting before you even see anything and you're good. The mech sections work exactly like the on foot sections, it doesn't really feel you're piloting anything. Hot anime girls images everywhere, I would have got some interesting faps if I played this game back in the day. Despite being set in the future, it doesn't feel much futuristic at all, no crazy technology at all other than the mechs.

Now, I'm off to play Kiss Psycho Circus The Nightmare Child. A licensed game about a rock band, a FPS game about a band, go figure. My expectations are low, but I'm going through anyway.

>> No.5755827

>>5755814
KISS Psycho Circus game was made by half the Daikatana team which split off in like 1998. Ironically, of I am not mistaken, it got released before Daikatana.

>> No.5755835

>>5755798
Blood 2 is generally renowned as an absolutely awful game. I think it's actually worse than Duke Nukem Forever.
The reason weapons feel so weak is because the damage scales on random, from an arbitrarily low to eh, high-ish, meaning more often than not you will do below average damage for the weapon, hence an axe zombie may take anywhere from 2 to 6 shells from the shotgun, and this was by design.

It's fundamentally just a really bad game, and in my opinion a lot worse than some games which gets touted as the worst ever (such as E.T for the Atari 2600). It's particularly shocking as it's a sequel to a game that's actually pretty good, so it's very jarring to go from one to the other.

>> No.5755836

>>5755806
>I couldn't be arsed to make a round portal so I just stole one from the original id levels
I also made one in the techno tomb level.

>> No.5755838

>>5755814
I heard Psycho Circus was ok.

>>5755827
Likely because Dai-Katana was so incredibly poorly planned and mismanaged.

>> No.5755851

Goddamn Amid Evil was fucking mint. Liked it way more than Dusk. Unlike Dusk which got worse as it went along Amid Evil got better for the most part. (3 is definitely the worst episode) Ep. 4 was when they finally got a handle on how to design challenging enemies that are actually fun to fight and Ep. 6 was when they figured out how to make the boss fights interesting. Really hope those devs do another FPS game because I think with another attempt they could make something that rivals the classics.

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heheheh what an mess

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>>5755660
>>5755731

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>>5755878

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>>5755563

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>>5755394
IT LIVES

>> No.5755967

>>5754038
Christ is this screenshot real? It looks like these parody shots from a couple of years back. I don't care what anyone says, Doom3 was more Doom than these new ones.

>> No.5756013

>>5754335
don't forget stuff like the plasma rifle comment along the lines of "turn a white guy into a nigger faster than rap" and then bitching about moderators getting on him for it and having to change it twice, wanting to put genuine photos of real gore into BD (though he backed off real quickly on that), and at least a couple other stunts

>> No.5756016

Hey gents! Fury's Sky team here.
Just wanted to let y'all know we're finally launching on Steam. We're aiming for early August release.
We even did a trailer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDINQpU5Yvk&feature=youtu.be

>> No.5756027

>>5756016
We've made a lot of improvements too, thanks in no small part to your feedback and support! We really appreciate it guys. Means a lot.

Newest versions are up here if you wanted to check it out before launch: https://proudcipher.com/furys-sky

>> No.5756047

>>5754335
>he put a virus in his Extermination Day mod in case you want it to run with Project Brutality
it just crashed the mod, stop bullshiting, this is why I don't believe a single thing coming of you fuckers

>> No.5756058

>>5754164
>>You can't take constructive criticism or any feedback whatsoever because you're banned from most forums and Doom related places
He's not banned from Doomworld, though, you know, the most important place

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>>5755394
Doctor!

>> No.5756068
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Remaster when?

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>>5755448
>Spritenoob

Where've you been for like, 2 years?

>> No.5756078
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how much time should it take a full vis?

>> No.5756080

>>5754394
There's nothing wrong with liking BD or PB, they both have the same problems and mistakes though. That doesn't mean it's wrong to enjoy either though.

Separate art from the artist you fags, Mark is a fag but if you enjoy is wad then there's nothing wrong with that. He's a one trick pony with no coding skills but he made a fun mod. Suck my balls.

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>> No.5756091

>>5756080
I bet you enjoy michael jackson music too

>> No.5756092

>>5756087
Why is the toilet green

>> No.5756094

>>5756091
Haven't listened to much of his but Beat It and Smooth Criminal are fucking awesome. Recognize talent where it stands instead of going "DURR MAN BAD, HE NO TALENDED"

Yes your post was a joke but I still wanna soapbox fuck you

>> No.5756097

>>5756074
Working and poorly managing my time. I still lurk here though

>> No.5756098

>>5756094
>I still wanna soapbox fuck you
haha, I will enjoy just to get you mad

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>>5756080
>Separate art from the artist you fags

And there it is.

>> No.5756106

>>5756016
>>5756027
What the fuck is Sky's Fury?

>>5756091
You can hate him because you think disliking mainstream things make you look cool, but it won't change that he was really talented at music and dancing, with a great voice.
You don't sell 30+ million copies of a record on just some marketing gimmicks, numbers like that means you did something VERY right.

>> No.5756107

>>5756101
Yeah, a point you can't argue against. When Mark actually starts using his mod to push his agenda or for something Sargon-tier levels of cringe that's one thing, but when it's a guy being a fucking asshole that's different. Shameful as fuck and he deserves deplatforming for it, don't get me wrong, but his mod shouldn't have this weird scorn on it. I absolutely agree with most people it doesn't deserve the popularity it has but that doesn't change the fact it's fun to some people.

The whole "Just play PB and not BD!" bullshit reeks more of "Play PB because Mark didn't make it" rather than "PB is actually better than Brutal Doom!"

>> No.5756110

>>5756092
back when Champions had its initial release and the author didn't clamp down on limitations of what it considered "viable" for monsters gaining forms, I tossed in project brutality to see what would happen. turns out Mark's underlying code played fast and loose with monster definitions for basically everything, from toilets in his project extermination to the doomguy himself. if you did specific things doomguy's monster state would even 'reset', which would inadvertently cause you to stack champions abilities on yourself and start freaking out with enemy detection teleports, automatic projectiles and other crazy shit

incidentally at least one qstyle version caused certain monsters to be so constantly changing that they infinitely stacked all champions forms, crippled the framerate and became gods

>> No.5756113

>>5756106
>You don't sell 30+ million copies of a record on just some marketing gimmicks, numbers like that means you did something VERY right.

Limp Bizkit went platinum.

>> No.5756114

>>5756106
We put together an Ace Combat and Starfox inspired action flight game in GZDoom. Mainly just to see if we could, and now that we've done that we're trying to make it the best game it can be. Still has a ways to go, but we're having fun making it and we hope people enjoy playing it

>> No.5756115

>>5756097
>Working and poorly managing my time.

A crying shame

>> No.5756117

>>5756107
>libtards

>> No.5756118

>>5756107
And yes PB is actually far better than the mod it's based on, fag.

>> No.5756120

>>5756118
No it isn't niggerfaggot, it's like saying Doomguy's Warzone Gold is better than Doomguy's Warzone just because it has more shit in it. PB has just as much feature bloat as BD does. It's only virtue is being able to select how much of it you actually want.

>> No.5756125

>>5755309
Against thee wickedly
Tech gone bad
Nightmare underworld from Sigil

I vastly prefer his new, limit removing levels to the old ones. I never liked Romero's Doom 2 maps.

>> No.5756140

>>5756091
>I watched Leaving Neverland guys

>> No.5756141

>>5756113
Going Platinum does not mean going Michael Jackson tier Platinum.

Thriller alone sold 33 million, which is more than half of Limp Bizkit's entire catalogue, Jackson's entire discography is estimated at 200 million on the low end, and 750+ million at the highest end, the common estimate landing somewhere around 350 million.

>> No.5756151

What order were the Arcane Dimensions levels released?

>> No.5756165

>>5756091
Unironically innocent.

>> No.5756187

>>5755394
wtf

>> No.5756190

>>5754335
>that story again
ignore this drama pls

>> No.5756208

>>5753238
The link in FAQ pastebin of Masters of Doom is dead, does anyone have the file or a link?

>> No.5756213

>>5755394
dare I ask for the name of this totally wicked mod?

>> No.5756214

>>5756190
Let's be real, even if that story wasn't true, people were getting mighty fed up with his behavior, he was going sooner or later.

>> No.5756215

>>5753238
https://fabiensanglard.net/fd_proxy/doom3/pdfs/
Nice index of Interviews with John Carmack about DOOM.

>> No.5756220

>>5756078
A minute is already pretty long. If you have too many structural brushes it will just abort VIS because there are too many leafs.

>> No.5756223

>>5756208
nvm found it: http://retrogamer.biz/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Masters-of-Doom-dokument.pdf

>> No.5756258

>>5755394
what's the song, chief?

>> No.5756305

>>5756220
my goldeneye map will not be finished then
that dam is a nightmare and my testicles are broken
I have to review how to engage that for the n time

>> No.5756307

>>5756305
cut
corners
if necessary

>> No.5756312

>>5756305
By testicles broken you mean your actual balls or is it just a way of saying?

>> No.5756349
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ahhh, what a beautiful day outside

>> No.5756351

>>5755814
if you ever manage to get psycho circus running, can you please upload a fixed version here? I once tried to play it but I tried everything and the game simply didnt run

>> No.5756351,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>5756213
Space Pirate, it looks like

>> No.5756354

>>5756312
mapping has hospitalized anon and left him sterile
what a tragedy

>> No.5756358

>>5756354
Quake mapping: not even once

>> No.5756359
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Not too bad of a lineup this year.

>> No.5756362

>>5756359
>ESO
Kek, that sticks out like a fucking sore thumb

>> No.5756364

>>5753238
I wonder if Pillowblaster posts anywhere outside of Zdoom and Doomworld? Like on Twitter, or Instagram, or Zandy forums?

>> No.5756365

>>5756359
>convention meant for quake, called quakecon
>year of doom
come on now
anyways,
>ES Online 1v1
what the fuck?

>> No.5756369

>>5756365
Gotta promote Eternal somehow.

>> No.5756376

>>5756359
>2v2

Ok, that's something you don't see often

>> No.5756397

>>5756358
>>5756354
Testing your map for Rocketjumping without an appropriate cup can be very dangerous.

>> No.5756402

>>5756359
>ESO
I guess Zenimax is still hoping for that horse, huh.

>> No.5756414

>>5754248
>Civvie11
gg, youtuber man. Sorry they did ya in like that. If only you had been Civvie11+1.

>> No.5756416

>>5754164
>hdoomguy is working on ion fury
Do you think they'd let him draw porn of Shelly?

>> No.5756428

>>5756414
lul

>> No.5756436

>>5756428
>>5756414
>TerminusEst13 didn't get the job
>TermnusEst13-1 would have gotten the job

damn dude that's rough

>> No.5756442

>>5756416
probably not

>> No.5756472
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This is Doomguy, not that neanderthal shit.

>> No.5756478

Did Doom always have door crushes like Duke 3D?

I only ever noticed in when an imp got smooshed and left a pile of guts behind in Doom2

>> No.5756479

>>5753289
Just think all your suffering will bring us joy.... For the 4 minutes we bunny hop through the map.

Just kidding it will be worth it.

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>>5756220
I did not account for this

>> No.5756483

>>5756478
They only get crushed from doors if they're dead. Otherwise it just bounces off actors.

>> No.5756486

>>5756359
>ESO
>FO76
ffs

>> No.5756489

>>5756416
Maybe. She’s kinda cute.

>> No.5756495

>>5756481
what textures?

>> No.5756497

>>5756436
Term is still a beast when it comes to sound design, though.

>> No.5756501

>>5756495
chicosruin.wad, along with some others. But the cathedral itself is exclusively chicosruin

>> No.5756506

>>5756483
I definitely stared at the imp and the vertical door came down and killed him. I never shot him. Leaving behind guts instead of your typical imp body

>> No.5756509
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>>5756481
This is not okay.

>> No.5756517

>>5756481
And now you know why Quake maps are relatively simple

>> No.5756564

>>5756517
It's been vising for over half an hour now and doesn't move past halfway done. I think it's reaching Ackermann levels of recursion.
I don't think I can release it now. I wish I knew about that before I wasted so much time on it.

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>>5756359
>Doom Speedruns
>Doom Eternal Mars Core Demo Race
A speedrun that doubles as a preview for the final game, nice.

Also, I assume there won't be any new info about Eternal until the 26/27th? If so, fair enough I suppose.

>> No.5756572

>>5756506
Was it actually a door? Did it do the monotonous humming sound of a crusher or the whiny door sound?

>> No.5756574

>>5755374
we all looked at it and said HUUH?

>> No.5756583

>>5756564
time for chop chop

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>>5756572
It was the 3rd level of Doom 2. You know that one secret where you hit the candle stick and the door drops down and you rush through to get the laser rifle? Well there was an imp in the way so I decided not to run yet and waited and the secret door crushes the fucker

>> No.5756592

>>5756564
Nobody told you not to make the map too complex for the game from 1997 that uses squares and can't have circles? Really?

>> No.5756603

>>5756564
Are you using detail brushes?

>> No.5756607

How difficult is it to make a new 3d weapon model for quake?
I really wanna get better at modding and make a revamp mod like that guy doing the slayer testaments, except I'll make it a metroid revamp.

>> No.5756626
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>>5753238
>playing Hideous Destructor
>tfw just spent one hour organizing the loot I have gotten on MAP01 through MAP07 after finishing Dead Simple and now deciding what to carry on to complete Doom 2

I always suspected I had the 'tisms, but this is extremely compelling evidence now. And this felt fun/good to do, what the fuck

>> No.5756657

>>5756626
Dead Simple is the farthest I've gotten on the UV equivalent, I think. I simply couldn't get past without being toasted alive. I had a berserk pack and popped it before dropping the walls, and rushed to the eye switch, but as soon as Tricks and Traps loaded, the effect was gone and I got immolated.

>> No.5756663

>>5756657
I'm playing it on Hideous (UV) right now. Are you talking about a previous version of HD, or the current one? Because at least with the current one I feel it's been pretty doable.

>> No.5756668

>>5756663
>>5756657
(And by current I mean, fresh off the master branch of the github, not the latest stable release)

>> No.5756669

>>5756603
I am now. They worked like a charm.
Which is good because I'd rather resign than compromise geometry.

>> No.5756671

>>5756668
This was a while ago, so things might have changed. Considering the mod we are talking about, it likely did.

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>>5753238
AFAIK there are no Xngine or Build Engine versions of TerryWADs

>> No.5756687

>>5755642
DUSK

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>>5756680
Good. Let's keep it that way.

>> No.5756702

>>5756687
Dusk is nice,I wish there was a weapon mod for Doom based on it.
We already have Z Movement, so why not?

>> No.5756710

i like to think that the shoulder gun in eternal is like the inventory system in heretic where you can use sub weapons while still firing from the main weapons
something that still bothers me about the praetor suit is the random placement of doomguy's symbol
it's just here in the helmet and something like a belt buckle would've been less silly
also, speaking of the subreddit, they're doing some faq thing but besides the fact of it being reddit, they state they'll only reply ro slayers club users, so fuck that i guess
>>5755125
metadoom and dakka

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>>5756589
You mean MAP05, right? MAP03 doesn't have that. Anyway, it's just a lift, so it doesn't crush living objects, unless this is some weird behaviour only from the original that's changed in GZDoom for some reason.

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Saw this in caco nomination thread.
Unironically 10 fps. It doesn't even look that good.

>> No.5756784

>>5756724
Lol I like the effort you put in here anon. (What do you use to webm-ify your videos? I can't find anything decent that will cut mb size down)

Yeah, turns out you're right they don't take damage. I must have killed him and it turns out that if a door squishes a dead body the body gets pulped. I have never noticed that before. The sprites are different to a telefrag even.

I tested with imps but also did with cacos too.
https://streamable.com/huimk

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>>5756784
He probably uses a program called webm for retards, though I think nowadays it's called Webm for idiots/bakas. Genuinely great software, it's what I use for all of my webms.

>> No.5756816

>>5756795
Yeah, I originally used Master of WebM, but it's not as flexible. WebM for Retards has built-in AviSynth for more flexible cropping and filters and shit. HandBrake for quick conversion to MP4.

>> No.5756834

>>5756047
any time someone says anything about sgtmark, they better drop sources and links and shit

>> No.5756837

>>5756080
but the art is still shit and it's part of a medium with better art
nobody even questions its popularity or quality enough, so it's how some people confuse it as an official doom product
both sides are to blame for the lies and mendela effect tier truths around the mod

>> No.5756853

>>5756107
deplatforming is how people side with him because it paints him as the victim
exposing his shit and humilition > outright censorship

>> No.5756875

>>5756190
1:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSA2CYGmMnM
>>https://warosu.org/vr/?ghost=yes&search_op=all&search_int=dontcare&search_res=post&task=search2&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_tripcode=7AmZzMETkut&search_del=dontcare&offset=0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=28920&start=6720
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3484&sid=672df8c67e6179394990851b00cc527a
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/378404085/#378434843
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/90977-brutal-doom-not-working-on-gzdoom/#comment-1675280
https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1557/85/1557857340708.png
https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1466/85/1466857346631.png

>> No.5756878

>>5756875
>that first fireden pic
Hell hath no fury like Eric scorned.

>> No.5756889

>>5756472
Reminds me of a russian kid i know from school years ago.

>> No.5756903

>>5753238
Fireblu but its a floor texture.

>> No.5756905

>>5756120
No you're retarded, all the features are perfectly balanced and useful.

>> No.5756906

>>5756875
Is Mark the John K. of Doom now?

>> No.5756937

>>5756906
Mark has never been accused of sexual assault by multiple people.

>> No.5756942

>>5756906
Mark never made a half decent tv show

>> No.5756947

>>5756906
>Is Mark the John K. of Doom now?
I always thought he was more like the YandereSim Dev.

>> No.5756953

Of any wad that ever had heaven levels, which one do you think has a heaven that could draw parallels to Doom's Hell?
>>5749536
Like mentioned above.
>FIREBLU but with gold and cyan
>Evil eyes but with glowing crosses
>Stretched faces walls but with happy/resting smiles that are more organized
>Stuff like marble, gold and a white fluffy material meant to resemble clouds
>Instead of skull keys, you get cross keys

>> No.5756962
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Also has anyone here heard of Echelon?
https://onemandoom.blogspot.com/2016/11/echelon-echelonwad.html

>> No.5756965

>>5756953
>Stretched faces walls but with happy/resting smiles that are more organized
potentially much more creepy

>>5756962
> freudian slip

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This is gonna be a tunnel that looks gated off from the loading dock area but can be accessed via secret. Will probably have a harder fight in here.

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>>5756962
>the guy who made this made Cabal for Master Levels

Was Cabal meant to be a reference to Blood? I always thought it was a made up word for that cult in particular.

>> No.5756986

>>5756982
Nah, cabal is just a regular ol' English word. Refers to secretive, corrupt groups.

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>>5756962
>and it's a bestiality

>> No.5757101

>>5756354
tengo las bolas rotas, yes
>>5756307
yeah, I really tried to do the 10 sided dam, but I'll go with the classic 8 sided curve, the misalignments are driving me crazy and obj2map is not helping

>> No.5757103

>>5756349
>literally russia

>> No.5757104

>>5757101
was for you >>5756312

>> No.5757121

>>5756349
>the UNF is replaced with the weird *boop* noise from HL2

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>>5756570
Bringing this up again, but I gotta say, promoting a game like Doom Eternal by having a speedrun of one of the levels is a genius idea marketing wise.

For one, obviously, it shows off what the game has to offer. Also, judging by the fact that it's a speedrun it'll be done in a completely non-conventional and interesting way compared to scripted gameplay you'd see in E3. I imagine it'll be somewhat similar to back when the game was fully revealed and it showed gameplay of PC with an increased FOV. It wouldn't be just some business dude telling the player to play a specific way, it would be someone who clearly has knowledge of the ins and outs of the game, which by extension would mean they'd show off new and interesting ways to play the game and move around compared to just an E3 demo. Finally, it's probably one of the least "corporate" forms of advertising for any game because ID's basically saying that they wholeheartedly respect the Doom community and its legacy so much, they are willing to let someone not only speedrun the game when it's not even out yet, but also study it in depth to figure out the best strats and such.

In all honesty, more game devs should do something similar to this. It's one of the absolute best ways Eternal could be marketed and its mechanics shown off to the public, and I'm somewhat surprised no one else has said anything about it.

inb4 >t. autistic over analyzing

>> No.5757240

>>5757184
Honestly, I agree with this.

>> No.5757325

>>5755071
I like the curse hunter and DSC (although i get bored of hordemode shit very quickly), i'm in the minority here that really enjoys fancy effects put ontop of pixel graphics, its when 3D models and ugly voxels get involved that it turns to shit.

>> No.5757329

>>5756362
>>5756402
>>5756486
>be surprised about ESO & 76
>not QC
i get that it would look really bad if they just abandoned a quake game at quakecon but let's not delude ourselves into thinking that quake champions is in any better shape than those 2 games.

>> No.5757331

>away from pc for 2 months
>want to doom/quake on my phone
>freedoom port is just some older gzdoom that crashes on a lot of maps
>quakedroid doesn't run music, lags a bit, can't run anything but default ID1
>delta and quad touch are paid compilations of free source ports with touch controls that i won't even use since i have an android compatible controller
>even if i wanted to pay for them i loathe the idea of giving google my card details
>lowest amount they sell on google play cards is 10bux so i'll end up with a useless fiver rotting on there until they eventually ban me for being white or something
fucking kill me
i just want to doom in my hotel after a day of exploring
maybe i'll play psx quake/doom through retroarch, i always enjoyed the lighting changes

>> No.5757347

>>5755125
my goto now is dakka, the weapons are all great and health/armor resetting on level changes means you can't just end up megasphere'd to hell and ploughing through everything, it's slightly overpowered but nothing like hnd or pillowblaster mods too

>> No.5757352

>>5755550
>real artist
so what, you shit on your own dick and roll around on stage while human league plays and then a bunch of lesbians applaud you as you shove live rats up your gaping rectum? good job lol

>> No.5757361

>>5755814
>>Shogo
>It's amazing,
FUCKING FINALLY, someone appreciates this awesome game as much as me, I don't know why people shit on shogo so much here, other than them not being fast enough to react to the ai.

>> No.5757367

>>5755125
for singleplayer
>project brutality
>trailblazer

for multiplayer or bot matches
>D4T

i generally prefer more action focused gameplay out of doom. not to say other aspects of doom don't have a place but it's pretty damn satisfying to see an entire room covered in blood & demon guts after a firefight.

>> No.5757368

>>5757331
get a laptop

>> No.5757381

>>5757368
I'm posting from one, it's significantly less powerful than my phone and can hardly run gzdoom. Tried blade of agony on it for laughs and got 5fps.

>> No.5757384

>>5757381
just how fucking old is this laptop, anon
jesus christ

>> No.5757501

>>5756305
is there a key to change the camera speed in trenchbroom?

>> No.5757509
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apparantly pillow is considers himself an explosion connoiseur

can't really blame him

>> No.5757587

>>5756687
Thanks but I beat it already. Any others?

>> No.5757590

>>5755743
I beat this too. But I really liked it so thank you.

>> No.5757605

>>5757509
> i am no furry
conflicting actions and words

>> No.5757607

>>5757384
Its from 2015 but has a celeron n2830 which is possibly the worst cpu ever made, on the flipside it cost me like 100 bucks. It has slowdown on any video over 720p (both streamed and local) and also has a lefthanded touchpad which leads to all sorts of typo shenanigans and accidental clicking. However I pretty much only use it for work hence my desire to play doom on my phone rather than this slab of garbage.

>> No.5757612

>>5757361
fuck off

>> No.5757616 [DELETED] 

>>5757612
dilate and have sex you tranny incel, must suck to be so fucking OBSESSED while i'm out fucking bitches

>> No.5757620

>>5757616
Not even your prison buddy will touch your diseased, rotting ass, you false flagging Kraut ape. With any luck, the next vine your crackhead ass swings from is made from braided fiber rather than kudzu.

>> No.5757629

>>5757620
Kill yourself now before your whore mother reads your posts and throws you out on the street you fucking pathetic nonlife amoeba.

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>>5757629

>> No.5757634

>>5757620
also lmao looks like you have more on your plate than me, cry cry and cry while real men are out having sex with the women you wish you could even talk to because they like shogo and you can't even get past teh first fucking level with your fucking mutant club hands

>> No.5757636

>>5757632
amoeba out you nolife dickless tranny

>> No.5757638

>>5757607
man, save your food budget for beans for a week or something and trash that shitheap
for $100 you can get a thinkpad from a few years prior with an i5 or even i7 that will blow a celeron out of the fucking water and get you mad /g/ credz to boot

>> No.5757639

>>5757612 here. no idea who you're talking to but I'm glad because I'm losing my shit.

>> No.5757646

>>5757638
I'd rather spring for the 10 googlebux than buy another laptop lol, i fucking hate these things. Even with a decent processor and a dedicated gpu i'd still have to deal with the goddamn touchpad and chiclet keyboards, not to mention how a laptop i7 is either gimped to shit or designed to set your testicles on fire.

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>>5757646
>touchpad
>chicklet keyboards
My son, let me show you the path of the holy.

>> No.5757651

>>5757647
I know that chinkpads are nice but I just don't see any point in getting one, I use my laptop once in a blue moon and aside from the issue with doom i can still use it to play point n clicks and crpgs. Also i'm old enough to remember that the mouse nipple is even worse than a touchpad. They are nice machines though, at least aesthetically.

>> No.5757653

>>5757647
That's fine until the red nouse thing starts to go bad. They crumble or go all melty and gross.

>> No.5757658

>>5757639
There's this weird autist that gets incredibly fucking mad whenever anyone posts about shogo. I'm guessing whoever initially triggered him was german which is something new to learn. I'd hazard a guess that he's the same autist that can't stop shitposting about half life, who is also probably the same faggot that can't stop posting essays about gzdoom. God this website attracts the worst kinds of virgin, sad that they can't understand that everyone that found this place at 14 has grown up in the 15 years since.

>> No.5757661

>>5757658
The anti-HL and anti-Shogo poster literally both are DKG, who is German. Different states of fecal matter, same asshole.

I'm >>5757632 and >>5757620 fwiw.

>> No.5757664

>>5757651
>Also i'm old enough to remember that the mouse nipple is even worse than a touchpad.
The nipple is great once you get the acceleration tuned just how you like it. I understand it's not for everyone, though. You said you used your laptop for work so I assumed you meant full-time and thus you'd be typing on it constantly and want a solid keyboard- even a good chicklet one, if need be- for work rather than just for vidya.

>>5757653
Trackpoint caps are like a buck fifty a piece, anon.

>> No.5757676

>>5757620
>>5757629
>>5757634
Whoah these insults are awesome!!

>> No.5757684

>>5757664
New old stock, yeah. Gonna look that up.

>> No.5757697

>>5757605
He’s not a furry, he’s a scalie and an otherkin.

>> No.5757698

>>5757697
XD!

>> No.5757701

>>5754472
Where can I find this? The only version of DoomRunner I can find is from 2011 and looks far more basic.

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>>5755125
A tie between Guncaster and High Noon Drifter.

>> No.5757720

>>5757717
THAT DEMON HAS TITTIES

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what a shame

>> No.5757727

>>5757717
I had to go in and nerf a few guns to make it fun for myself.

>> No.5757728

>>5757717

>>5757605
>>5757697

>> No.5757730

>>5757725
bet you missed the rune

>> No.5757731

>>5757730
ikr
i saved before exiting, so time for secret hunting i guess

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>>5757720
The demon had always got tits

>> No.5757764

>>5757701
I can't find a more updated version than that myself, but I wonder if Rocket Launcher's any good for your purposes
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/87120-rocket-launcher-2-0-cross-platform-doom-front-end/

>> No.5757782

>>5757701
Google "DoomRunner launcher," first link. Contains a link to the Github with a recent beta version.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=64784

>> No.5757815

What's the UV difficulty equivalent in PB anyway?

>> No.5757818

So, I've just beaten Quake for the first time. On Hard, of course. Holy shit, with how Ep4 raped me constantly (and FUCK tarbabies), Shubby was one of the most anticlimactic bossfights ever.

>> No.5757820

>>5757818
Did you have to Google how to beat her? Be honest.

>> No.5757821

>>5757820
No. After stepping through the teleporter once I knew it had something to do with it. I'm not a retard, you know?

>> No.5757825

Today I learned that the enemy melee attack function in Quake is called continually, not just as soon as the player gets close enough, and so forcing that function to exist if it doesn't already can lead to unexpected results.

>> No.5757827

>>5757821
Well I am.

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>>5757825
Whoops.

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>>5753238
Guncaster but on Idtech 2-3 (such as Quake 1 and Quake 2) with the ability to choose the sex of the player character.

>> No.5757834

>>5754727
Shit I can't believe that Dukes design is so similair to his

>> No.5757838

If (very big if) I were to start developing aDOOM XCOM mod, what games aesthetic do you think I should base it off? 2012?

I've been wanting to start modding for an age, but it'd be slow and steady, starting with a weapon set

>> No.5757841

>>5757838
the new stuff looks a bit generic design wise
excellent furry bait tho

>> No.5757845

>>5757828
what the fuck

>> No.5757848

>>5757845
Ogre grenades.

>> No.5757853

>>5757848
ogrenades

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>>5757853

>> No.5757856

>300minvr.wad
>it's pretty good
Huh. I'm surprised to be desu

>> No.5757867

>>5753238
What if Markiplier or Pewds did a playthrough of Duke3D, Witchraven 1 Shadow Warrior?

>> No.5757868

>>5757838
Orginal is better imo.

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What do you guys think about Copper?
http://lunaran.com/copper/index.html

>> No.5757915

I'm about to upgrade my CPU due to fucking classic Doom. This is insane.

>> No.5757934

>>5757915
The GZDoom curse reaps another soul

>> No.5757939

>>5756770
is it all the mods you have slapped on?
or are they included with the map?
maybe it runs better in vanilla but I don't even know what it is

>> No.5757954

>>5757828
>even placeholder textures are brown in Quake
It's like pottery

>> No.5757956

>>5757934
>>5757915
Does GZDoom not run well in general? I can barely maintain 60fps in 480p on switch but that's a handheld tablet system.

>> No.5757968

>>5757956
Yes, it's prety heavy and very poorly optimized. More complex mods suffer from sever slowdowns even on high-end systems. It's a wonder that the Switch is even able to run it.

>> No.5757969

>>5757968
*severe

>> No.5757978

>>5754925
Final Doomer update? What wads are getting weapons?

>> No.5757982

>>5755559
Your legs aren't ok.

>> No.5757984

>>5757978
From what the zdoom thread has been posted
Whitemare is gonna get a weapon set, i don't know about any others tho
(Hopefully Going down)

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>>5756875
>Kills Alone comment
That guy might be one of the biggest cocksuckers in the YT Doom community.
95% of his content is BD,make it makes the big money, and if you dare to say anything negative about the content he goes full discourse on you like you insulted his mom.

>>5756878
But he's right though. Every single time someone tried to give feedback to his mod,fans and him were always ready to call you out as jealous or salty,in a really childish way too.
And look how the mod turned out,bloated with more features,most of the issues still not addressed and a total mess is sound design.
At least 70% of the features are useless.
That's why nobody hired him because they would have to delay their game at least 4 times because of his abysmal coding skills and because he's not capable to make original sprites by himself.

>>5757984
>Going Down weapon mod
Considering the wad was made by Cyriak I expect some Nightmare fuel material.

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>>5757509
>I'm not a furry
Scalie or furry the concept is the same

>Makes an addon with a dragon succubus shopkeeper
>She clearly wants to hop on your schlong
>Clearly sexualized
>He already chose a voice actress for her

Suuure

>> No.5757991

>>5757987
>Considering the wad was made by Cyriak I expect some Nightmare fuel material.
We should also note that the entire wad is a game that doom guy is playing and additionally if the weapon set might happen, we might also get some references to a MusicVideo with chimpanzee's with a type writer.

>> No.5758001

>>5757991
>>5757987
Does Going Down pull a Doki Doki Literature club twist or something? I haven't played it beyond its second map

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>>5757991
The possibilites are endless.

>The BFG summons a legion or rabbits that keep reproducing and turn into an even bigger rabbit
>A melee weapon that is basically a whip with several mouths on it
>Can summon a zombie cat companion
>You pull out your skull through your nose and toss it to the enemies and can do it several times.
>All the weapons have a musical medley when you fire them

>> No.5758004

>>5757934
I'm scared
>>5757939
I was getting huge framedrops lately but that's due to an AI mod I added. Even without it I still get drops as soon a map has a bit if dynamic lights and shaders
I might get the latest Ryzens sooner rather than later.

>> No.5758007

>>5758001
There's an ancient temple with a gate to hell under the building's basement. Technically a twist but perfectly normal for Doom.

>> No.5758013

>>5755125
I still really like Psychic, reminds me of Jedi Knight with the mix of weapons and magic powers, and feels more balanced than other mods with purchaseable upgrades.

Hideous Destructor is also really good, it completely reinvents the game as a tactical shooter.

>> No.5758016

>>5758001
There is one at the very end... but it's not DDLC tier level of twist
>>5758003
My ideas were mostly based Upon the lore and the music video version of one of the midi's.
i wouldn't mind these idea also,
but one of my friends had one idea in which essentially the more you advance on the game the more the weapons would mutate with demonic energy and stuff (Like the demonic weapons from DooMRLA to give you an idea).

I wonder how whitemare is gonna be based upon though, if i remember correctly Whitemare is a slaughtermap of sorts.

>> No.5758018

>>5757956
GZD discontinued legacy support, and yeah I don't know what the fuck Graf is doing. I don't anyone does.

>> No.5758026

http://esselfortium.net/music/linked/btsx-arrange/Ether.mp3

>> No.5758027

I have heard Graf Zahl namedropped a fuckton over the years and I'm still not sure I understand the hatred for him. Is it just because he's snarky/rude in the Zdoom forums, or is there some deeper reason?

I assume the GZ in GZDoom means GrafZahlDoom?

>> No.5758031

>>5757834
I think Duke Nukem predates Demolition Man actually.

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>>5758016
Oh ok gotcha.
Frankly Whitemare feels like a really random choice.
The theme is "winter" so I think most weapons will be about ice or covered in snow or something like that.

I would've picked Valiant,Deus Vult or Scythe

>> No.5758043

>>5757956
It's not the best optimized (you should see it's "voxel" support), but to a point I think also people don't realize that some of the things they're trying to do is trying to cross the boundaries of what the engine can effectively do in terms of performance.

>> No.5758049

>>5755125
DAKKA. Keeps the base weapons unchanged, but adds on top of them by adding altfires and slightly altering mechanics. Disable score rewards to avoid getting extra ammo and throwing off balance even further.

>>5757956
>>5757968
>>5757915
>>5757934
GZDoom is CPU intensive because it parses high level code (Decorate, ZScript) in a linear fashion because upon inception it was not expected to be hyperthreadable. Now if it is to maintain even token backward compatibility, it must remain linear non-multi-threadable, and thus reliant on CPU single-core speed.


>>5758001
It's fun and full of creative ideas, like a time travel puzzle, a level that you expect jumpscares in, but transforms into a hellpit instead, or level that requires you to shoot a giant demon head in the eyes, find ufo, battle in a literal colloseum for hell noble spectators, fondle all of devils balls or just flush a toilet.
You should definitely play it in full.

>>5758027
He has shot down a LOT of reasonable ideas that would've improved GZDoom for either arbitrary reasons or "just because", thus the "NO" meme.
Also did a lot of questionable decisions and one of the latest (resolution saga) revealed that he does not care about many things people take for granted, such as consistency and precise resolutions. Also requests for disabling bilinear filter by default were met with "NO, this is the modern way to play and I like it, so you should too".
Another thing he did was "fix" some angle commands that worked just fine for last 8 years, but apparently should've been working differently according to Graf, which made all mods that used those commands (there are not many, but still a few) to bug out.
Every time Graf breaks or "fixes" some feature or the other, he expects modders to fix their mods, even if those moders are no longer in the community.
Also notoriously gets pissy when modders tell people to use specific (not newest) version of GZDoom.

tl;dr: his reputation is well deserved

>> No.5758056 [DELETED] 

>>5757987
>fireden guy

He does make some good points, although it seems a bit silly to complain about Mark's EDGY HUMOR (pic related) and the violence in BD. For one, complaining about EDGY HUMOR is about as pretentious as the humor itself, and the way the guy comments on the violence seems like he's reading into it too much. "It's violent so that means projecting????????"

Either way, he does make good points nonetheless.

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>>5757987
>fireden guy

He does make some good points, although it seems a bit silly to complain about Mark's EDGY HUMOR (pic related) and the violence in BD. For one, complaining about EDGY HUMOR is about as pretentious as the humor itself, and the way the guy comments on the violence seems like he's reading into it too much. "It's violent so that means projecting????????"

Either way, he does make good points about Mark nonetheless.

>> No.5758064

>>5758049
>GZDoom is CPU intensive because it parses high level code (Decorate, ZScript) in a linear fashion because upon inception it was not expected to be hyperthreadable. Now if it is to maintain even token backward compatibility, it must remain linear non-multi-threadable, and thus reliant on CPU single-core speed.
What a mess

>> No.5758067

>>5758049
>because upon inception it was not expected to be hyperthreadable
Oh no.
Is there some hero out there rewriting ZDoom from scratch to have multi-thread CPU support? Or will we be stuck on single cores forever and ever?

>> No.5758071

Why the city levels (Amsterdam, Moscow, Paris, London) of Duke World Tour are so vomit inducingly bad? Did they think a few fake posters and cheap skyboxes can replace good leveldesign?

>> No.5758074

>>5758067
How will you do that and let it still run everything from before it?

>> No.5758078

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRMtwWlURXA
This is incredibly atmospheric, and it's done with just Vanilla Doom and some DeHacked, with very clever mapping tricks.

Erik Alm, what a guy.

>> No.5758079

>>5758064
>>5758067
There are things in ZDoom/GZDoom, like thinkers and mob code that are simply not expected to execute simultaneously, figuring out how to do them without breaking literally everything released prior would be a tremendous undertaking, and when you finally figure it out, you'll still have to literally rewrite GZDoom from scratch.

>> No.5758083

>>5758049
>GZDoom is CPU intensive because it parses high level code (Decorate, ZScript) in a linear fashion because upon inception it was not expected to be hyperthreadable. Now if it is to maintain even token backward compatibility, it must remain linear non-multi-threadable, and thus reliant on CPU single-core speed.

So, this is why my PC becomes as loud as a jet engine when I run GZdoom, as if I was playing a maxed-out modern game. I thought there was something wrong, but this must be why.

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>>5758061
I'm all for edgy humor and dark comedy but when it reaches a point that it tries too hard to shock you and relies too much on the same topics it becomes annoying(even with wholesome stuff when it's too "sugary").

BD on the other hand is like it tries so damn hard to be tough and badass but comes off like it was made by a 14 year old who just saw his first Rated R violent movie.
I doesn't help that Mark acts like said 14 year old but is incredibly thin-skinned to criticism.
As that guy said this mod is treated like as god-like while is far from being creative and mostly glorified by those who didn't even dare to touch any other retro FPS.

>> No.5758101

>>5758091
Implying that's what BD is about. Remove all the blood and dumb swearing if you want, I'd still play it because of the gameplay and the impact of the sound and hit effects. The good BD based mods let you remove the kiddy bullshit anyway
What a super misguided post. Not him by the way but what the fuck is the retarded hatred of BD anyway? It would be one thing if it was the only mod with this concept and we would be forced to play with it's rather shitty weapon balance and bad sprites, but it's not even the case when BD has 2 great alternatives.

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>>5758101
>I'd still play it because of the gameplay and the impact of the sound and hit effects

>> No.5758116

>>5758061
>>5758091
>>5758101

Here's some other points that are rarely brought up for some reason:

>Mark takes patreonbucks, brags on Doomworld about how he can make a living in his 3d world shithole with those $500 a month and quit his job, and how everyone should be jelous of him
>proceeds to do fuckall for 5 years straight, mooching off patreons to make a v20->v21 update
>some modders started a prolific modding career and made dozen of full fledged mods while he made 2 updates

>tons of bugs reported still not fixed
>cyberdemon instigating infighting with his 1-damage thunder steps, defusing some battles before player gets there
>altered monster radius values result in monsters teleporting out of bounds in some cases
>same thing makes some mobs appear outside of their monster closets
>chaingunner exploded in tight corridor with RL still keeps corpse solid and makes corridor impassable with ~5% chance. Tried digging through the code, coudln't find any reason for this.
>code attached to player transfers to voodoo doll, which has a chance of fucking up any voodoo doll sequence if its finicky enough, that may result in anything - from switches not activating, or activating right from the start, or even level auto-finishing itself in ~30 seconds if exit relies on voodoo doll standing right next to endline and being pushed iunto it by barrel explosion (quite a few of older maps did this)

>some detrimental gameplay changes
>SSG so OP you can kill cyberdemon in 3 shots to the head
>Chaingun so OP it makes Plasmagun unnecessary
>Some death animations keep enemies solid and soaking up bullets for several seconds for no reason.

I know there was more but I forgot since I havent played it seriously in 3 years or so (only played latest "final v21 gold" version to confirm if the bugs were fixed as Mark personally told me they were. He lied.)

>> No.5758123

>>5758101
>Not him by the way but what the fuck is the retarded hatred of BD anyway? It would be one thing if it was the only mod with this concept and we would be forced to play with it's rather shitty weapon balance and bad sprites, but it's not even the case when BD has 2 great alternatives.
Mostly because the fanboys kept treating it like it's the best mod ever created,harassed modders to make their work compatible with BD.
And they don't shut the fuck up about it,even when Doom Eternal gameplay was first revealed they were still there ready to praise that mod.
Same thing with other mods videos,saying "why not BD?!" "BD is better".
Like it's their only vision of Doom and the rest that isn't is trash.
With all this fanboyism of course someone would start to despise it and game journos didn't help with the exposure(but game journalism is a joke anyway).

Then you have those who simply have an hate boner for it.

>> No.5758125

>>5758112
I think he meant the feedback you get by shooting monsters in different parts with different weapons - all the different death animations that depend on where and with what you shoot, loosing limbs, exploding heads, them catching flame, chunky gibs that sort of stuff.
This is literally the only reason to play BD.
Sadly the BDLite guy went completely wrong route by keeping stupid balance decisions and removing all the feedback stuff.

>> No.5758137

>>5758125
Can confirm. I hate the feature bloat in Brutal Doom but using the classic loadout (which is barely even classic anymore) and an imp go flying from a shotgun blast was the best feeling.

>> No.5758142

>>5758137
I like when you can blow off a Zombieman’s leg, only for them to pull out their pistol and make a final stand.

>> No.5758145

>>5758142
so many good ideas in this mod gone to shit, it's sad

>> No.5758165

>>5758116
>Glory kills are useless,unless you have an health bar addon for the enemies,you will never know when to them
>Even if it gives you health,when you're surrounded by enemies,they will fuck you up real bad
>They go on for way too long,they shortest is 4 seconds long,which completely break the flow of the game

>Some enemies are even weaker than the original counterparts
>Chaingunners deal less damage for example
>The fucking new Icon of Sin takes less effort and time to kill

>Gets all these patreonbucks and can't make some original weapon sprites,most of them are ripped from other games or taken from Realm 667

>Still hasn't fixed all the bugs and glitches from BD 64
>Won mod of the year 2016 from Moddb,because that year sucked that bad in terms of mods apparently

>Vehicles implemented like ass

>>5758137
>>5758142
>>5758145
I like BDLite but that was actually one of the few memorable parts from BD.
At least is compatible with most enemy packs.

>> No.5758172

>>5758165
Brutal Doom is a neat concept for a joke wad, but Mark decided to stretch out that same joke for 7 years.

>> No.5758175

>>5757838
Any would be a good choice. It would be great if you could choose between ufo enemy unknown, xcom 1, and xcom 2 via loadouts but that's an even bigger if. If you seriously want to try making it then sticking to just enemy unknown would be the best option.

>> No.5758176

>>5757875
I'll give this a go. I like that they do at least explain their thought processes.

>> No.5758186

>>5754642
Pic is cool but Quake is kind of a let down. Other two are charging into almost certain death but Ranger just kind of taking a stroll. Not the Shub was any kind of threat regardless. Also HUH

>> No.5758191

>>5758186
Ranger’s seen worse from Viet Cong.

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>>5758172
Nah,It's great concept but is like making a pizza.
You put all the conduments,all the food you enjoy in it without thinking if they fit or how the end result would be

One of the main appeals is the gore but there are games that managed to do it better even before it,like Turok 2.

If it just stopped on version 19 it could've been an 8,5/10.
Right now is just ok.

It's like he figured it out that he couldn't do anything else so kept adding stuff to his mod.

>> No.5758201

>>5758193
>If it just stopped on version 19 it could've been an 8,5/10.
>Right now is just ok.
That's my point. It was fine to begin with; the simple concept of making Doom play more like the comic. Mark either didn't know when to stop, or wanted to hold onto relevancy as hard he could, and fell victim to feature creep.

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>>5758193
Grabbing enemies was probably the worst idea.

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>Found out about HDoom
>Definitely made by a weeb
>Curious to see if there's more
>Look up on that furry website,e621
>Go for the highest score ones
>My dick is soft like a Quake spawn,all of it garbage
>Except the Cookie Demon
>Which is the one who doesn't even look like she supposed to be a Cacodemon
>The one who deviates the most from the source material is the only Doom lewd character who is pleasant to look at
>WTF.png

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>>5758206
Oooooh that one. I completely forgot about it.
The way it gets in the way during gameplay is so annyoing.
Doesn't help that sprites look horrible.

The imp looks dumb,is the worst drawn imp I've ever seen,he's like is made of wood.
Why the soldiers look so blurry?

Also that totally not-Samus Aran as female Doomguy

What kind of stuff was he smoking when he made this?

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>>5758224
This baroness of hell is kinda cute, though.

>> No.5758260

>>5758242
Doomguy's face is priceless

>> No.5758264

>>5758224
>that buffed up marine bunny
>that snu snu tier bassilissa pic buff lover anon likes to post from time to time
>that tomboy doomgirl made by the D4D spriter
>crash posting
Oh god dont do this to my penis

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>>5758236
It gets worse.

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>>5758273
>The left arm
How can you fuck up this bad the perspective.
It's so tiny compared to the zombie head.
This won Moddb Mod of the year.

>> No.5758294

>>5758206
Hahahah is that fucking real?
The zombieman doesn't look that bad but Jesus Christ that imp hahahaha

>> No.5758298

>>5758294
I wish it wasn’t, but it’s real.

>> No.5758304

>>5758273
Fine that's the one thing I'd disable, for some reason even PB still has this.
It was fun in Crysis, you don't need this in Doom.

>> No.5758305

>>5754095

Nobody hired him but iD completely ripped him off with Doom 2016....

Plus you have no idea what he does for a day job, nob jockey.

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>>5758264
I was talking specifically about the demons.
It's just funny to me that thebest stuff strays so far away from the source material that could easily be its own thing. When it comes to Doom of course.

It's just this thing I kept seeing where the artist picks whatever thinks that's hot and cute and shoves it on the original design.
And it becomes just silly and dumb for how everything clashes with each other. Fuck off Rube

Same problem I've seen it with game design like in Duke Nukem Forever,you have these weird aliens,this over the top and corny tone but the game just looks soulless.It just doesn't match.

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>>5758305
>nob jockey
Really nigga?

ID didn't ripped off BD,Glory Kills were already a thing before BD was even a concept.

>Plus you have no idea what he does for a day job
By working only on two updates for the same mod in 3 years? While everyone else moved on other projects already and made more than he did in 7 years?

>> No.5758337

Let me see all these fun gameplay mods that aren't based on Brutally Shitty, anons.

>> No.5758351

>>5758337
High Noon Drifter
DemonSteele
Guncaster
Trailblazer
Kriegsland
Accessories of Murder
GMOTA
Lt. Typhon
D4T
Ultra Crispy
La Taylor Girl
Hearts of Demons;Baron
Hideous Destructor
Nun with a Gun

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>>5758224

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>>5758351
Trailblazer and Guncaster, but they've been done from scratch to work on the Quake Engine.

>> No.5758380

>>5758368
>they've been done from scratch to work on the Quake Engine.
You mean there's a quake version of those mods? If so where?

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>>5758330

Really bruh

iD would never have noticed any of that shit without Brutal Doom. All the trash sites like Kotaku and RPS were wanking off about Brutal Doom for ages till they decided they didn't like Sgt and now all the NPCS are SGT MK V BAD

>> No.5758383

>>5758380
I'm only suggesting ideas.

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>>5758382
>Using NPC unironically

>> No.5758396

>>5758389
He eated lemon?

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>>5758389
Is calling people NPCs lame now?

Although I have to agree, Mark's a shitty guy, but certainly not SGT BAD. I'm not that retarded.

>> No.5758419

>>5758407
>now
It's always been lame

>> No.5758468

Anti hl and cs poster here. I don't hate shogo. It's an ok game.

>> No.5758480

>>5758316
Dontchu shittalk rube Alba is top tier waife material

>> No.5758497

>>5758071
Vomit inducingly-bad, really? They're not total masterpieces but they're fine. Amsterdam at least has the getting high gimmick. And the San Francisco level is pretty awesome.

>> No.5758506
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What's with all the hostility in these threads lately?

>> No.5758513

>>5758071
I liked them.

>> No.5758514

>>5758049
You got me to think about what would use CPU power for nothing really vital and I turned a few things off and I actually got a huge increase in performances, so thanks

>> No.5758518

>>5758506
>Fuck popular things. Oh, but doom's ok.

>> No.5758521

It's like doom is the only good popular fps or something.

>> No.5758536

>>5758273
>that chicken arm

>>5758305
>Plus you have no idea what he does for a day job
he admitted himself in a doomworld thread that he quit his job and now lives off of patreonbucks he also bragged about it on social media a few times

>>5758382
Also all of the features of BD including finishers were already a thing in: Battlefield, Crysis, Serious sam 3, Duke Nukem Forever etc. before they were added by MarkyMark
And the gore system was done before (and done better) by Soldier of Fortune 1/2 and Vivisector.

And melee finishers were already in that godawful CoD Doom that got scrapped, way before BD gained any sort of notoriety.

And the method he used for hitboxes was first conceived in the ZDoom forums, but nobody wanted to use it since its too resource intensive and involves spamming 2 additional actors every couple of frames for every enemy in the map. And that's was exactly the thing that inspired Marky.

There is no original bone in BD, and it never influenced any actual game dev. That one is just sweet lies Marky tells himself when he cries himself to sleep at night, mourning all those nonexistent bucks he couldve got if he had talent to make his own brutal game.

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>>5758116
>SSG so OP you can kill cyberdemon in 3 shots to the head
An absolute classic

>> No.5758545

>>5758541
N-nooo my narrative!

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>>5758480

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>$80

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>>5758079
>>5758083
>>5758049

Perhaps it would be better to take the ZScript VM and implant into a brand new 2.5 engine.

>> No.5758580

>brutal doom gets mentioned even ONCE
>thread quality immediately drops sharply

>> No.5758583
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>Plays Douk 3D the first time
>All really good so far
>Reaches The Abyss
>Have no idea where to go
>Wander around for several minutes but nothing
>Turns that using the jetpack didn't make things faster it accidentally complicated it even more by skipping some clou parts
>Restarts everything
>It goes fine smoothly

Note for me:never use the jetpack unless I've already completed a level already

>> No.5758585

>>5758568
But it glows!

>> No.5758590

>>5758536
I don't want to defend the guy but if it's oh so unoriginal then why the fuck did no one else executed the idea before he did?
While there's a few other Doom gameplay mods none of them before BD actually made Doom an improved game as a shooter with proper modernized hitboxes, bodies reacting to effects, and better sounds effects, shooting, reload etc, as far as I know.
>nobody wanted to use it since its too resource intensive
Sound like bullshit. If someone actually tried they would have known it still did work, and even if it didn't at the time maybe the limitations would have given birth to better game design like having fewer but tougher enemies instead of spamming the enemies numbers so hard like in literally every fucking amateur wads.

>> No.5758608
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>Blood lets you have 3 different types of armour
>It doesn't really matter because the enemies deal tons of damage.
>"I'll swallow your soul"

I like this game but couldn't they just give you a regular armour?
It's a neat idea but would've been more simple like that.

>> No.5758612

>>5758165
Finishing blows to kill enemies and get rewards sounds like a nice mechanic, but it's a bit drawn out in this and Doom 4. Just a good, solid gibbing punch or chainsaw slice should do it. Add bit more flair than just hitting someone with a berserk fist, but it should still be quick and concise.

>> No.5758638
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Many say that Hellhounds are the worst enemies from Blood,along with the cultist.

For me is the hands:fast,hard to hit and a pain the ass to get them off.

How about your most despised enemy in a retro FPS?

>> No.5758649

>>5758590
you do realize the reason brutal doom lags on monster heavy maps is largely because of how it constantly spawns headshot actors for every monster, right?
it's not just theoretically slower; spawning hundreds of actors every other tic (like brutal doom does), all of which have collision enabled, is guaranteed to lag

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>>5758638
it's right behind this door, open it up and you'll see

>> No.5758659

>>5758649
Yeah nice, I didn't know this. It's definitely worth it. I get 60fps anyway.

>> No.5758660

>>5758123
Not a fan but can you show some examples? Because I've never seen this before

>> No.5758661

>>5758036
>Frankly Whitemare feels like a really random choice.
From my understanding, Yholl chose it because he likes Whitemare 2. Also the theme for the weapons is all fire based.

>> No.5758663

>>5758638
>How about your most despised enemy in a retro FPS?
The entire Blood 2 roster, which are millions of times cheaper and unfair than the Blood 1 roster.

>> No.5758664

>>5758638
Anything no startup hitscan that will melt your HP.

>> No.5758671

>>5758659
it's not worth it
even in zandronum, you can just spawn the head actors once and have them follow their master, which is much, much cheaper
in gzdoom, you don't need the head actors at all, because you can check where the hit registered
mark is just bad at code

>> No.5758672

>>5758638
Chaingunners in Doom

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>>5758664

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>>5758663
YOU WILL DIE A SLOW, SLOW DEATH!
*hitscans u faster than a chaingunner on crack*

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>>5758671
So Brutal Doom spawns a target for every enemy's head, and constantly deletes and respawns this object instead of just... having it move with the enemy?

>> No.5758695

>>5758671
So do the BD based mods clean up the code and do it the proper way?

>> No.5758701
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>>5758680
Not only aesthetically and in terms of design Blood 2 was inferior(can't fully blame Monolith though) but it was also so brutally cheap.

Enemies react way too fast,they're forgettable and their damage is unbalanced.
Doesn't help your weapons sound and feel like shit.

>> No.5758702

>>5758682
yes, and while there used to be an excuse for it (the only way for one actor to reliably track another was to make it its target, which could change on its own when damaged), there isn't anymore

>> No.5758713

>>5758702
So we have a solution slapped together for a limited, older release of GZDoom/Zandronum/whatever that was outdated, but now we can't fix it because everything is turning into spaghetti code?

>> No.5758720

>>5758572
The problem is if old stuff will run properly then.
Sure, some things of old aren't quite compatible with newer versions of GzDoom, but a lot is, and this is a community that's big on legacy content.

>> No.5758729

>>5758638
The centaur fucks in Hexen. It's an annoying enemy design.
>just use your flechettes bro
That's not the fucking point, it's still not a fun enemy to fight.

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>>5758679

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>>5758680
They evolved on the 21st century, anon. Now, they're soldiers, and no longer miss if you crouch. See the red shit behind him? If you don't gib him, he'll inject himself with it, and run at you screaming, to explode, which will certainly kill you if you're near.

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>>5758682
>and constantly deletes and respawns this object
That's HILARIOUSLY inefficient, which is a bad combo when the engine it runs on isn't all that fast to begin with.
Also it sounds like it could break pretty easily.

>> No.5758741

>>5758731
>ArdathLilitu
Love her art but I noticed she has a crush on Duke

I mean she made porn of him fingering Lara Croft while the butler gets an heart attack but ok

>> No.5758750
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi0V1W-60L0

https://mikestoybox.net/2019/03/31/robocop-doom/

Man, Impie makes good mods.

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>>5758750
That feels like an early 2000s wad,which is not insult I actually like this one.

I wonder if a boss fight against RoboCain would be possible

>> No.5758758

>>5758741
I don't see the problem?

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>>5758165
>an health bar
>an before an h word

An is used before words that start with a vowel.
Or are you that much of a britbong that you say "an 'ealth bah".

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>>5758756

I got the same vibe and I really dig it. If you want a 90s style TC vibe check out dbp13 alien bastards!

>> No.5758774

>>5758765
I'm guessing he started writing "an addon" and then added "health bar" there. Happens to me.

>> No.5758776

>>5758758
Exactly,everyone had a crush on Duke at some point of their life

>>5758765
Bruh,chill out.

>>5758768
Thanks

>> No.5758810

>>5758765
No need to sperg out over something this trivial

>> No.5758823

>>5758682
BD also uses A_Explode in many places because old versions of zandronum didn't have A_RadiusGive... while at the same time using A_RadiusGive on other parts because the mod is no longer meant to be compatible with old zandro.

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>QuakeC
I feel like too much of a retard to learn this shit
I just want new weapons and mechanics man

>> No.5758840

>>5758834
Isn't QuakeC just simplified C? Shouldn't be too complicated.

>> No.5758878
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HUH is so close to completion.
Can't you feel it?

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>>5758878
I sent my map off yesterday. Can't wait to play them all.

>> No.5758915

>>5758583
Yeah jetpack completely breaks Duke maps

>> No.5758919

>>5758878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv7KHdcZRa4

>> No.5758924

>>5758741
S...sauce?

>> No.5758927

>>5758878
Holy shit I completely forgot that I was even making a map. I was busy with shit this past week and a half

>> No.5758928

Are there any quake maps that are designed specifically to teach bunny hopping?

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>>5758927
The deadline is tomorrow

>> No.5758932

>>5758927
anon I'm going to sneak into your house and give you the worst wedgie of your entire life

>> No.5758934

>>5758924
https://www.deviantart.com/ardathlilitu/art/Duke-and-Lara-sexy-moment-806678226

>> No.5758946

>>5758931
you know what means: time for me to start making a map!

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>>5755394
I NEED THE FUCKING MUSIC

>> No.5758983

>>5758083
Remember to cap your frames to whatever your display refresh rate is. GZDoom gets no advantage from 400+fps overhead in less complex areas, since all its logic is at 35 fps, but it will still use 100% CPU no matter what, unless you limit it.

>>5758590
>why the fuck did no one else executed the idea before he did
Because nobody of the core fanbase wanted those features in Doom. And even if they wanted to mod some of those into a retro FPS, they'd be modding for some other engine that would take those features better - like Half Life.

>>5758659
try running it on a map with 1000+ monsters. I have i7 3770 (not new, i know, but still) and on some maps it gets down to 10-15 fps, while with other mods it pushes ~100 fps in same places just fine.

>>5758695
nope.
IIRC some ZScript wizard did the proper math version of the hitbox definition, but defining hitboxes with it takes a lot of math, and would require to re-do all the monsters from scratch. And at that point you might as well re-do everything from scratch proper, and people who have skill and time to do so would most probably rather do their own thing than fixing someone else's shit.
BDLite that was supposed to be "BD but fixed" opted to just remove hitboxes and everything associated with them outright.

>> No.5758989

>>5755394
I see it takes heavy inspiration from Project MSX

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>>5758989
>Project MSX
You accidentally opened old wounds,anon.
I wonder where the creator of that mod is now it's been half decade,damn it.

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>>5758931
THE LONG AWAITED SEQUEL

>> No.5759038

>>5758931
When does it release?

>> No.5759041

>>5758915
Which makes it so fun that they just give it to you at multiple occasions.

>> No.5759054
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Have you ever tried to collect all the secrets in a map and found one that you felt was mandatory to find in order to survive what's coming up next?
Especially on higher difficulties?

I would say the Napalm Launcher in E1M1 from Blood on Well Done.
This thing is a god's gift and helps you a lot against the hitscanner groups in the next map. The cultists here have a femtosecond reaction on this difficulty
The dynamite is still the coolest weapon but if I had to use the right timing against them I would be already dead.

>> No.5759074

>>5758983
GZdoom is just as much a bottleneck as BD's poor code is though. If it was a proper engine it would use multiple threads for all these sprites.

>> No.5759086

Grug want new thread.

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>>5758026
I absolutely love this!

>> No.5759110

>>5759074
>sprites
those entities are spriteless and are not rendered.

>GZdoom is just as much a bottleneck
that is why I said that if anyone would've been going for BD's ideas back in the day, they wouldve done it on a different engine that could actually uphold it and not crumble under the weight of all the walkarounds that must be taken to achieve the effect.

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>>5759110
GZDoom is indeed a clusterfuck that can create a lot of issues but when used properly by people who know what they're doing it can do wonders.
A prime example is Samsara,an ambitious mod with several sprites and animations from different games. Incredible at the time and still is but it clearly shows its limits due to the lack of other resources.

BD could be reworked with ZScript but for obvious reasons we mentioned before it didn't happen.

>> No.5759126

I feel like we have enough built up spite for the nuclear option. Make a new doom engine from the ground up with zscript and modern hardware support in mind.

>> No.5759162

>>5759094
wad?

>> No.5759172

>>5759162
Buttsex Part 2

>> No.5759176

NEW THREAD
>>5759174
>>5759174
>>5759174
>>5759174

>> No.5759234

When I change the resolution in GZDoom it says in the console..

>real resolution 1920x1080p
>Emulated resolution 960x540p (what I want it to be)

What's going on here? It certainly doesn't look 60fps despite it saying in the FPS counter it's 100+. I think it's rendering 1080p but scaling the aspect ratio down to 540p or some shit. How do I change the "real" resolution not the emulated?

>> No.5759248

>>5756213
Space Pirattete

>> No.5759251

>>5759234
Because the developer is a prima donna.

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>>5758506
Is that supposed to be a suppressed revolver? What the dick am I looking at

>> No.5759597

>>5759358
I dunno. To my knowledge the only revolver you can silence is a nagant.

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>>5759358
Ye

>> No.5759803

>>5753238
Is AMC TC any good? I'm looking to get back into Duke.

>> No.5759926

>>5755624
On MODDB there's a Half Life mod that adds CS guns. So you can play HL1 campaign with those. Closest you can get. Oh there's also the add-on you can buy on Steam, condition zero or whatever but it sucks.

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