/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5739913]

I dunno man, I still kinda like it

[Anonymous No.5739916]

nostalgia

[Anonymous No.5739919]

>>5739916
faggotgia

[Anonymous No.5739923]

>>5739919
based

[Anonymous No.5739963]

All the 3D Sonic games are so surreal. The gameplay and presentation are just one massive 'what the fuck'. I've never got why people are so into Sonic.

[Anonymous No.5739973]

>>5739963
>surreal
yes

[Anonymous No.5740023]

>>5739913
Yeah, it's pretty alright.

[Anonymous No.5740057]

Can you guys just make a Sonic general?

[Anonymous No.5740059]

Zoomers that spam mario, zelda and sonic threads should be shot.

[Anonymous No.5740071]

I played so much of it as a kid that I can get by most of the jank just through muscle memory.

[Anonymous No.5740115]

>>5740057
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.5740139]

>>5740059
>zoomers liking anything Sonic

[Anonymous No.5740353]

Game was fun as hell overall, at least the DC version I had. SA2 was where the Sonic cycle of shit started.

[Anonymous No.5740856]

>>5739913
Wish I still did. I tried to play it again as an adult and it sucked. But more power to you, OP. Have fun.

[Anonymous No.5741115]

>>5739913
I like it too. A lot. I usually replay it once a year.

[Anonymous No.5741131]

>>5739913
>Games change over time depending on what the popular consensus is.
When I got Sonic Adventure first I thought it was ok. I wasn't blown away by it by any stretch. I still think the exact same. People tried to convince me that SA was great but I didn't listen to them. Don't let your opinions be changed by others. Game don't age jfc.

[Anonymous No.5741139]

It was always a cool game, but the camera and how easy it is to just fall off the map (often because of the camera) hasn't aged well.

[Anonymous No.5741225]

>>5740059
Zoomers don't know Sanic exists. It's a 30-year-old boomer market.

[Anonymous No.5741248]

So do I, and the sequel. All three gameplay styles in SA2 are good you can take your zoomer e-celeb opinions to /v/. “waaaah I have to play the treasure hunting levels now!” Most SA1 and 2 detractors today didn’t actually play them.

[Anonymous No.5741268]

>>5741248
>“waaaah I have to play the treasure hunting levels now!”
Am I the only one who genuinely loved how Knuckles levels worked?

[Anonymous No.5741279]

>>5741268
Nah I always enjoyed them, particularly in SA2 with his chill hip-hop soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.5741296]

>>5740059
mario has been around for over 30 years though

[Anonymous No.5741327]

>>5739913
There's nothing really wrong with it as an introductory 3D title for Sonic and it's still a fun game. People just like to be hyperbolic and overly dramatic about it's flaws while ignoring the flaws just about every other early 3D platformer that came from a previously 2D franchise has.

I think the fact that this game and it's sequel still sell well when they get released and you can still see people outside of these kind of discussions still talk fondly of them and still enjoy playing them should clue you in that it's really just a very loud minority constantly hating on the games.

[Anonymous No.5741687]

>>5739913
there's a bunch to like
SA1 is still a mess and you can see it from the first stage, and it's got a bunch of things that aren't terribly well thought out, but it's a very ambitious game and it has its share of fun parts.

but seriously, it's also a bit of a mess
in SA1 on DC, I'll still get flung sideways out of loops for no reason -- thought it was nuts when that happened to me back in 1999 playing the demo at a store, and shrugged it off as "well, I guess the game is in 3D now, so you can fall off the side" at the time
and then I played it again recently and it happened in Emerald Coast, and I couldn't explain what the fuck was going on with why Sonic was even heading that direction
in SADX on GC, sometimes I'll get killed on the whale bit for no particular reason, and (very rarely) I'll fall through the floor in the tunnels in Speed Highway

I keep hearing people say that SADX is based on the code from the original JP release of SA1 rather than the bugfixed international version, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. SA1 on DC is a lot nicer too. Even the textures are prettier, Red Mountain in SADX looks ugly as shit. It's a lot more "red" now, but god damn. Better lighting, (arguably) better Sonic model, better textures, and the only things worse about SA on DC vs SADX are Chao (SADX just uses stuff from SA2's system) and the framerate (30 on DC, 60 on DX, but it drops really often).

>>5741268
I just wish the radar didn't only pick up on one emerald at a time. Knuckles has really pleasant controls, and I remember liking how he moved more than Sonic
Shit, I really liked playing as Knuckles in SA1 and just wished his stages were as big as in SA2.

still, the space stages as Knuckles and Rouge kinda suck -- people complain too far loudly about Mad Space, but it's still kinda shit
at least the BGM for Meteor Herd is an absolute banger

[Anonymous No.5742106]

>>5741687
>A very ambitious game
And this is what detractors willfully forget, the sheer variety in that game was mind blowing in the late 90s. You scarcely see that much variety in games, even today.

[Anonymous No.5742113]

Grinding on rails ruined the sequel.

[Anonymous No.5742186]

>>5741687
Good post. And also agreed on everything you said on Knuckles's gameplay.
And Mad Space is fucking shit. Meteor Herd is fun though.

[Anonymous No.5742225]

sa1 was fun. its 2 that was shit.

[Anonymous No.5742521]

>>5739913
Me too, anon. I legit just think it's a great game.

[Anonymous No.5743224]

Its not amazing, but the game is overly hated. Also DX blows.

[Anonymous No.5743371]

Both games were and are still good. Flawed gems I'd say.

[Anonymous No.5745450]

>>5743371
The Robot's story was the best thing about the game.

[Anonymous No.5745454]

>>5745450

[Anonymous No.5745463]

I do too man. I know that objectively, they're pretty shit, but I still enjoy them.

[Anonymous No.5745485]

>>5745454

E-102 Gamma died for our sins.

Props to Sega for not immediately undoing his death like they did with Shadow.

[Anonymous No.5745747]

>>5745450
Personally, it's the best character arc in the series and among the best in general. It's painful how Gamma gets used as a husk in Sonic Battle.

[Anonymous No.5745756]

>>5741327
>There's nothing really wrong with it as an introductory 3D title for Sonic...
What are you trying to introduce people to? You're the video game equivalent to the fat disgusting BDSM who wants to tie you up in his rape dungeon and make you suck his micro penis. It's 3D Sonic; nothing good awaits.

[Anonymous No.5745840]

>>5739916
fpbp. It's a broken piece of shit with janky animations and laughable voice acting, and this is coming from someone who actually liked this game a lot.

[Anonymous No.5745906]

>>5745747

Never played battle, no idea why they made a Gamma clone to use once instead of their actual (inferior) Gamma clone Omega.

[Anonymous No.5746439]

>>5745485
>Props to Sega for not immediately undoing his death like they did with Shadow.
You know he shows up as a regular badnik in the very next game after SA, right?

[Anonymous No.5746545]

>>5746439
Those are meant to be cheap knockoffs, though. He should have just built 5 good robots instead of loads of shit ones.

[Anonymous No.5746767]

>>5739913
Dreamcast Sonic Adventure was a little buggy but it captured the soul of the old games in a way was like a terminus for the old cool Sonic and had a great soundtrack. The cutscenes are a little cheesy, but in a charming 90s kind of way.
>come on ya big drip, where ya goin'?
Sonic Adventure 2 had some really fun Sonic/Shadow levels, but it's arguably the beginning of modern cheesy ironic meme Sonic.
>>5741225
Nah, I was around a bunch of zoomers recently and they were getting all nostalgic about Sonic Heroes and how kids these days would never understand. I just kept quiet and let the conversation keep going.

[Anonymous No.5746796]

>>5746767
Eh you realize Sonic Heroes came out 16 years ago. Phew it's legally allowed to drive.

[Anonymous No.5747732]

[Anonymous No.5747885]

>>5745756
You proved his point with your hyperbolic diatribe.

[Anonymous No.5748554]

>>5747885
I think people just like to shit on SA1 without having even played it because that's the popular opinion.

[Anonymous No.5748575]

>>5748554
Not him but I liked it when I was younger, played the shit out of it. Played it again several years later and I realized it was just nostalgia. It's a janky, bug-ridden mess even by those times' standards and the voice acting was the cherry on top of the shit cake. Still a fun little gem for kids though.

[Anonymous No.5749334]

>>5746796
t.gamecube zoomer

[Anonymous No.5749476]

>>5739913
All that buildup, and that amazing opening movie, all for this?

[Anonymous No.5749482]

>>5749476
WHY WE EXIST
ONLY TO SUFFER
You think that's bad try raising chao and getting all A ranks with every character only for a 2 minute green hill remake with ugly graphics.

[Anonymous No.5749486]

>>5749334
Haha it's ironic because we're acting like 2009 wasn't a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.5749836]

>>5749476

[Anonymous No.5751794]

>>5739913
Greatest game of all time.

[Anonymous No.5751808]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tukd2xpIrMc

[Anonymous No.5752039]

>>5739963
Genesis Sonic games were such a potent homage to city pop and late 80s culture that people who were susceptible to things like television, radio, and marketing were drawn to Sonic like a moth to flame the first time they turned it on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYxlqTpZ-24

[Anonymous No.5752657]

>>5749476
>gamecube version

[Anonymous No.5752664]

It's overall quality is obviously and legitimately questionable but you literally cannot convince me that Sonic Adventure is not the most ambitious 3D platformer ever made to this very day

[Anonymous No.5752682]

>>5739913
There's something about this cover that simply wouldn't work if it fell into another era. It's so oddly shitty but so cool in a 2000 way. The texture logo treatment looks like a step up from WordArt but I wouldn't remove it. I feel so conflicted.

[Anonymous No.5753812]

>>5747732
no.

[Anonymous No.5755112]

I have a soft spot for SA even though I think its a bad game
Like its a buggy game with a lot of questionable design decisions, but goddamn you can tell the put a lot of passion into it and there are some really ambitious ideas in there.

[Anonymous No.5755248]

>>5739913
For me, it's the soundtrack. Kino, hard to not have a good time exploring each location.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfqloFaznDA

Is the game bad? Eh, a little. Controls are definitely clunky at times. For the first in the 3D series I think it's solid though. Might go replay it sometime, not sure if I 100%'d it before.

>>5749476
I always thought the water creatures looked cool desu.

[Anonymous No.5755257]

>>5739913
In my top 15 best games of all time. Get fucked if you don't see the greatness of this game

[Anonymous No.5755692]

I probably replay it once a year or so. It's janky as hell, but that's half the fun. You can really break the physics. They are so badly implemented that they are basically the whole game. I like SA2 as well though.

[Anonymous No.5755732]

>>5752682
No, the artwork on the cover is awesome, the game is just ok.

[Anonymous No.5757337]

awesome for speedrunning

[Anonymous No.5757359]

>>5755248
The soundtrack is the best part of Big the Cat's part for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dG_K8jmY6E