Can someone clue me in as to why was it so important to leak this? Let's review the facts:

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Anonymous Sat Jul 13 04:48:17 2019 No.5733345 [Reply] [Original]

Can someone clue me in as to why was it so important to leak this? Let's review the facts:

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 04:50:28 2019 No.5733349
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>"He was hoarding the games"
They were being shared and he was well aware of it, pic related. I had been already been reuploading some of them to legendsworld and a couple other abandonware sites by the time he took the links down. He was uploading something like 5 games a week at one point and taking the time to scan the boxes and manuals, and rip the official soundtracks, for free (since no one ever contributed to his patreon.) Only a few games at a time out of hundreds were ever off limits at any point, and he usually added them to the public folder later.

>"His games were stuff that was already out there that no one cares about."
There were a ton of extremely valuable undumped games in his stash that few had ever seen, one of the last things he uploaded before the Labyrinthe leak was a PC version of the cancelled Sega Saturn adventure FMV game Obelisk, which no one even realized existed, not even Saturn collectors, it was considered lost. He also dumped the full set of Psychic Detective games for Windows ported from FM Towns... for those who don't know, these sell for ridiculous prices, something like $1000 for the full set, and the previously undumped Windows version of Chu Teng (same price). He also dumped rare floppy disks like Flappy 95 with a Kryoflux. Those are just a few examples. Again: he was freely sharing them.

>"He made a douchey post on the bemani tracker."
This is probably closer to the real reason, the leaker got triggered or ego bruised and so decided to boost his own notoriety and publicly slander him, to the detriment of the preservation community at large. Pretty fucking selfish if you ask me, and exactly why /vr/ doesn't deserve nice things ever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 04:50:28 2019 No.5733350 Peepee kaka

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 04:55:19 2019 No.5733357 aahh pooo pee poo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 04:57:20 2019 No.5733358 >>5733349 He asked me to delete that pic on discord just now but it was a picture of him saying that sharing the games is fine

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 05:07:42 2019 No.5733369 caca pee piss farrtt parp snot crumb

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 05:12:46 2019 No.5733375 Poopoopeepeekaka

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 05:13:33 2019 No.5733376 POO POO DOO DOO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 05:23:38 2019 No.5733386 File: 2 KB, 52x25, emot-downsbravo.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5733350 >>5733357 >>5733369 >>5733375 >>5733376

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 05:32:40 2019 No.5733394 >>5733386 Poopeepoopee

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 05:35:16 2019 No.5733395 >>5733349 >the leaker got triggered Saint is based BakuDD is cringe

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 05:38:34 2019 No.5733401 not sure what this thread is about other than pointing out how /vr/ has shit taste in games, which is well known

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 05:40:46 2019 No.5733404 >>5733345 Is that some kind of shortstack goblin?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 05:46:01 2019 No.5733414 >>5733350 >>5733357 >>5733369 >>5733375 >>5733376 >>5733386 >>5733394 Wrong site you reddshit PoS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 05:47:46 2019 No.5733417 >>5733414 It's a BakuDD defense tactic, leave him alone

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 05:50:55 2019 No.5733418 >>5733414 hey I'm on your side dawg - poster of downsbravo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 06:15:26 2019 No.5733429 >>5733395 No idea who any of these people are. Summary?

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 07:03:53 2019 No.5733476
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is this Saint? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyJBSpJlIyc
clicked on the most promising video title but it just devolved into some kind of unfunny fyad reject level 0 tryhard irony for zoomers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 07:08:25 2019 No.5733483 >>5733476 Like there's MDE style intentionally unfunny irony made to troll, and then there's this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 07:29:51 2019 No.5733503 File: 65 KB, 899x173, 1563007828040.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5733358 Well I just reposted it.

>>	Funcoland Clown Sat Jul 13 08:33:26 2019 No.5733561 >trusting an online community He shouldn't have shared those games in the first place of he didn't want them "leaked"

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 08:34:33 2019 No.5733563

These shitty "lost" games authored in macromedia or quicktime or whatever always ALWAYS turn out to be worthless piles 100% of the time. Chu Teng was incomprehensible shit. Necrobius was incomprehensible shit. These arent some lost Nintendo games, theyre shit tier autism simulators for hipster faggots. Get a fucking life idiots, no one cares about any of this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 08:35:42 2019 No.5733565 >>5733561 namefags need to stfu

Funcoland Clown Sat Jul 13 08:42:37 2019 No.5733574

>>5733565
Like BakuDD? If he would just accept his responsibility for his own situation and avoid that mistake in the future rather than continuing to try to remind people a year later that he took his ball and went home he would be a lot happier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 08:46:07 2019 No.5733581 >>5733345 Oh hey I downloaded that game and still didnt get around to playing it, is it good? Dont give a fuck about hoarder/uploader drama or whatever the fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 08:49:14 2019 No.5733585 >>5733574 I don't know or care who that is, all I see is a shitty poster in multiple threads, tagging all his shitty posts with the same name, who needs to stfu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 08:50:11 2019 No.5733586 >>5733358 >discord

>>	Funcoland Clown Sat Jul 13 08:52:13 2019 No.5733592 >>5733585 Then why are you even in this thread?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 08:54:54 2019 No.5733596 >>5733345 >>5733349 Shut up bombman and upload the rest of those """valuable""" games

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 08:55:59 2019 No.5733597 >>5733592 to tell you to stop posting

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 08:56:23 2019 No.5733598 File: 114 KB, 267x921, 2018-08-13-083501_1920x1080_scrot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5733349 >There were a ton of extremely valuable undumped games in his stash Y-yeah...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 09:26:40 2019 No.5733631 >>5733598 Macro TV when

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 09:32:55 2019 No.5733643

>>5733349
>They were being shared
Except the ones that were in the "do not upload" folder, which all the leaked games were.
>He was uploading something like 5 games a week at one point and taking the time to scan the boxes and manuals
Just like everyone at archive.org. So what?
> Again: he was freely sharing them.
No, he was "sharing" them with a handful of autists for cred. He soldl the games for ridiculous prices too and had no real interest in archiving for the public.
>preservation community
You're not preserving anything if you hoard dumps on your private dropbox.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 09:33:52 2019 No.5733647 So is someone going to link the leaked games or what

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 09:39:34 2019 No.5733652 File: 439 KB, 1734x878, 2019-07-13-153851_1920x1080_scrot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5733647 Most are already on archive.org

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 09:41:24 2019 No.5733654 >>5733652 cool Also fuck this stupid drama who the fuck cares

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 09:53:21 2019 No.5733680

>>5733643
>Except the ones that were in the "do not upload" folder, which all the leaked games were.

Hmm, well, I already know this is false since I clearly remember downloading Fukkatsu Eggerland and Henry Explorers from old-games.ru (https://www.old-games.ru/game/download/6335.html)) which was both part of the leaked games torrent, and you can see these games were both mirrored from him in 2016, and there's also some other games from him on that website which were included in the leaked games.

So based on your post which immediately begins with misinformation, it seems like you're what is known as an "unreliable narrator" and so, your posts should be completely ignored.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 09:56:49 2019 No.5733686 File: 154 KB, 1150x1233, autist.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5733680 see >>5733596

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 10:01:23 2019 No.5733696 File: 87 KB, 992x418, preservation.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 10:03:01 2019 No.5733704 >>5733686 so what you're saying here is bombman: uploaded 120 games saint: uploaded 0 games seems pretty cut and dry to me

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 10:20:17 2019 No.5733734

>>5733704
A more interesting point regarding that post: if Saint was going to burn bridges, he might as well have mirrored the entire folder, but he chose to ONLY mirror (and take credit for) the Labyrinthe game, which shows that the leak was singularly motivated by that particular game, not necessarily out of any sort of indignation against game hoarding in general

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 10:42:33 2019 No.5733764 Saint said he was going to do a blind play of Riven but I never saw it, he must have gave up. Pathetic....

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 11:01:09 2019 No.5733783 >>5733704 saint: archived 1 game bombman: archived 0 games

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 11:06:57 2019 No.5733785 >>5733783 But the guy archived LOADS of obscure, undumped games. He just had a handful he was trying to keep on the down-low.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 11:08:55 2019 No.5733790 saint: nigger bombman: faggot Who will come out on top in this battle of retards? Oh wait no one cares.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 11:47:40 2019 No.5733841

>>5733785
Except he never planned on releasing them to the public because they were "valuable"
Honestly it doesn't make sense, first he says he uploaded it to a private forum because others wanted him to upload more, then he claims that no-one cares anyway about the games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 11:56:14 2019 No.5733850 So what is the new saint discord anyway? I don't get the grid thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 12:46:21 2019 No.5733924 >>5733680 shut the fuck up lapdog

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 13:33:16 2019 No.5733990 >>5733850 pool's closed

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 15:15:35 2019 No.5734228 >>5733429 BakuDD is the hoarder Saint is the leaker

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 15:16:19 2019 No.5734231 File: 690 KB, 500x667, 1561720550747.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5733349 >>5733358 So you are either him or his friend? Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 15:17:50 2019 No.5734237 >>5733764 He started to play but gave up because he didn't like it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 15:19:09 2019 No.5734240 >>5733850 His cool friends get to be on the more obscure servers. The downside is nothing happens on those servers.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 15:30:17 2019 No.5734253
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>>5733764
>>5734237
>tfw Saint got out of EOP status unlike the rest of us and is now enjoying super obscure PS1 game
>tfw not autistic enough to learn jap

what a legend though tb.h

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 15:44:23 2019 No.5734275 How much money has byuu spent again?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 15:47:51 2019 No.5734282 >>5734240 I liked to lurk and steal their memes, the people around him are morons though. The old server is pretty much dead. Hope a new link pops up without needing to talk to these people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 15:58:36 2019 No.5734306 >>5733686 >they made it clear to me that they did not want the games publicly distributed I don't get this. How do the developers themselves, who put so much work and creativity in their games, not want the game to be seen and enjoyed by others?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 16:00:09 2019 No.5734312 >>5734306 They fear that they will be raped by the game's distributor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 16:04:04 2019 No.5734317 >>5734312 That's obviously not going to happen, the games have basically been wiped from existence because of their obscurity. Is Japanese fear of piracy law really this bad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 16:22:07 2019 No.5734361 >>5734306 We are still talking about a commercially sold product with copyrights and not an art student's school project.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 16:32:46 2019 No.5734387

>>5734361
A commercially sold product that had such an absence of information on it that people weren't even sure it existed...
I'm starting to think the problem with these lost games isn't hoarding, but the tight laws of Japanese society. Hasn't it always been Westerners uploading Japanese media, from roms to anime? It's interesting because the guy we're talking about here ("BakuDD") said he was half Japanese, and it's almost as if he's torn between sharing these games or not. On one hand he's trusted some games by developers not to share, but then goes and shares them between a private group of people, but then eventually gives in to the Japanese desire of keeping the games out of hands once again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 16:38:22 2019 No.5734402 >>5734317 This fag claims he is half Japanese, somebody please report him to the Japanese officials and get him banned from Japan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 16:38:59 2019 No.5734405 >>5734387 A lot of western developers are the same. Lots of obscure old media from smaller countries is not uploaded to the internet and thus lost.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 16:40:26 2019 No.5734408 if he didn't want them to be shared he shouldn't have share with anyone. A shared "do not upload" folder is not a security measure, it is already a leak.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 16:40:44 2019 No.5734409 >>5734387 I don't know about their laws, but from my experience they prefer legit copies and don't support pirating. The guy from that post is acting weird though and owning rare games seems to make all people involved going on a nerd powertrip.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:19:11 2019 No.5734608

>>5733696
>that one faggot still ranting about byuu since he doesn't understand that byuu passes the games off to someone else to dump
>he'll probably show up to screech in this thread about byuu hoarding shit when everything byuu has ever touched has been added into the no-intro sets and is publicly available

>>5734317
>Is Japanese fear of piracy law really this bad?
People go to PRISON in japan for downloading ROMs, how bad do you think it would be for someone blamed for uploading shit?

A tl;dr version of this drama is as follows.
>people hardcore into JP games have private tracker, share shit among themselves
>someone lets /vr/ know some obscure JP game is on tracker
>some youtube/twitch guy named Saint who visits here downloads, goes posting it everywhere for e-cred
>uploader has section of games he doesn't want uploaded due to request of devs
>Saint copy+pastes everything to archive.org
>drama
>both sides are gay as shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:24:16 2019 No.5734624 >>5734608 Why is the guy who reposted all the games gay? He seems like the only non-sperg in this whoel group of people

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:30:34 2019 No.5734647

>>5734608
>people hardcore into JP games have private tracker, share shit among themselves
It's just about retro games in general. There were probably only like 5 people on the site that cared about the stuff in the private folder.
>goes posting it everywhere for e-cred
Saint genuinely wanted to play the game, and like >>5733734 said he wasn't actually the one who leaked the games. He just wanted other people to play the game he enjoyed, and was angry that the guy who kept it secret didn't even care about it (thought people were weird for getting obsessed over it). He had to figure out everything in the game, make his own walkthrough, and he even went out of his way to show all the different endings. If you take one look at his channel you'll see he isn't your average e-celeb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:32:44 2019 No.5734656 This is the reason that we don't even let the public know where the private tracker for dumped recent-ish arcades games is. It only takes one fag to leak everything and make the guys dumping them bail.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:40:53 2019 No.5734682

>>5734624
Because he could have waited until all the games were dumped and could be leaked instead of rushing to leak 1/4th of the stash just because "OTHER PEOPLE NEED TO PLAY THIS ONE GAME I LIKED RIGHT NOW!"
>>5734647
>He just wanted other people to play the game he enjoyed
Great, and now those other games are stuck in limbo. Waiting a little while longer to discuss a single game with other people was that impossible for him? Fuck him and the attention whore uploader.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:44:50 2019 No.5734691 File: 17 KB, 256x352, laughing_elf_man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >put game online for strangers to download >wtf people share my upload

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:45:34 2019 No.5734693 >>5733345 >an someone clue me in as to why was it so important to leak this? It had a cute sexy goblin girl on the cover dressed in nothing but a leather bikini+boots+gloves, riding a giant axe as if it was a phallic symbol.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:48:18 2019 No.5734702 >>5734682 >Waiting a little while longer Bakudd was never going to move Labyrinthe out of the "do not upload" folder. He even sold ハラペコ月と星あつめ on Ebay, yet did not move it out even though it met his condition of "recouping the costs of buying".

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:49:44 2019 No.5734706

>>5734656
What reason? Keeping old games nobody even knows a secret to feel better about yourself?
It's just digital media you can copy, not a super rare mtg card. The only thing that has value is the box and anything physical, who cares about the game files?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:50:59 2019 No.5734709 >>5734702 Who cares where it gets moved? You wait until he's UPLOADED everything first. THEN you leak. So people get everything instead of 1/4th of the stash only to have the uploader quit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:52:40 2019 No.5734714 >>5734709 Which would have taken like 8 years at his speed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:53:18 2019 No.5734718 >>5734706 >says reason RIGHT IN THE POST >WUT REASON?! Nigga, you are dumb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:56:40 2019 No.5734729 >>5734714 But we would have actually had them, rather than just 1/4th of the stash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 18:59:58 2019 No.5734739 >>5734718 Calling something a leak when he put it online in his community is a dumb move and even more of a dumb move to name another folder pls don't share. Again, I don't see a reason to keep it secret.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:11:50 2019 No.5734759

>>5734739
>uploading recent arcade games
>uploaders don't want this shit made public or they will stop uploading it
>as time passes, people stop caring about it being made public
>or some faggot leaks it, and the uploaders fuck off and no new material
Do you have downs? MAMEdevs have been playing this game for years. They dump some rare/obscure game, promise the hoarder it won't get leaked. They sit on it for years, then quietly add it into MAME. Everyone gets the game, and the hoarder has long stopped caring about it.

Then you have situations like Sega Sonic Bros, where some faggot like Guru makes a huge public scene about "DUDE, WE DUMPED THIS HOARDED GAME". Hoarders get pissed, MAMEdevs have even less chance of getting shit from hoarders, and they had to pull the game from MAME to avoid a shitton of drama.

The first method means we actually get games without issue. The second method means we get one game you need to modify the MAME source code just to make it work, and reduced chances of getting another hoarded game out of the hands of hoarders.

Can you explain how fucking over the release of future games is worth one game right now?

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:17:35 2019 No.5734768

>>5734656
Gatekeeping fags are the fucking worst.
>https://retrowithin.com/
>https://onlyone.cab/
Triggered?

>>5734759
Imagine rationalizing sucking hoarder dick. Sure you get more undumped games, but is that really worth being a submissive faggot? I hope not.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:18:17 2019 No.5734772

>>5734759
I don't know why you talk about recent arcade games when the OP post is about a 25 year old game nobody even cares about. He even said in his forum post that not even he knows people that are interested in it, so there is no value and he got himself in this situation.
No idea why you bring something else up that has nothing to do with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:24:01 2019 No.5734784 >>5734768 >sure, you get more undumped games And that is the entire point of game preservation, you retarded homo. >lying to hoarders is sucking hoarder dick How?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:25:02 2019 No.5734787 >>5734772 Because the guy was replying to someone talking about a private tracker for dumps of recent arcade games? Try to follow a conversation before you open your stupidhole.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:29:04 2019 No.5734792

>>5734772
>a 25 year old game nobody even cares about.
He said in his forum post that he had recently sold a copy of Labyrinthe to a buyer, under the condition that he not distribute it to the public. But he still chose to make to game available to those on the private tracker, because it wasn't private. He even included a note in the file saying not to redistribute any of the games in that folder. He wasn't hoarding the game, which is why it got leaked in the first place.

Now, in the future, do you think he's going to continue making games in his collection available to people who want them under a "don't redistribute these" honor system? Or do you think he's going to learn that people can't be trusted and actually hoard them? This is why you can't have faggots doing this shit. These kinds of games are dumped with a certain amount of trust from the dumper. If you violate that trust, they stop.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:30:37 2019 No.5734794 >>5734702 >ハラペコ月と星あつめ Is that a good game? -yes: put up a video then. -no: then who cares? Shut the fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:33:49 2019 No.5734802 >>5734792 >sells game and promises to not share it >shares anyway for bonus e-fame points >spergs out when it doesn't go his way It's better to get idiots like this back down to earth.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:40:51 2019 No.5734810

>>5733643
>He was uploading something like 5 games a week at one point and taking the time to scan the boxes and manuals
>Just like everyone at archive.org. So what?

You do know this whole scanning and dumping shit on archive.org started very recently and it's mostly one single group behind it, right? Which bakudd is a part of. If it weren't for turbo autists like him meticulously archiving everything we would have nothing, so fuck you and your ungratefulness you unbelievably selfish prick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:41:08 2019 No.5734813 >>5734802 What point are you even arguing anymore? First you say that he should have just leaked them to the public from the beginning, then this? And don't try to pull that "that wasn't me" shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:41:30 2019 No.5734815 >>5734802 >getting one over on some random nobody literally who is more important than getting games dumped Yeah, we'll show em! Just like we showed Ebaum!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:46:15 2019 No.5734826 >>5734810 Are you just making shit up? Bakudd timegated his uploads for no reason and never uploaded anything to Archive.org

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:48:43 2019 No.5734832

>>5734813
Both options of making it public for everyone or not uploading it at all would be better options than what he did. The second way would have been the better, because he is the one that broke the trust the guy that bought his game.
He has no right to complain about trust when he is doing the same.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:54:33 2019 No.5734857

>>5734832
They don't upload anything themselves, they give the raw materials to one of the guys running it who cleans up the scans and stuff, makes sure its up to spec and then uploads it himself. Lots of shit going on behind the scenes you're not aware of because you're only thinking about yourself.

>>5733598
I see at least 3 rare games in here other people have been looking for, Macro TV, Putle Story, and The Alius. So by focusing on the one game YOU wanted, you fucked over anyone who wanted to play those other games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:55:21 2019 No.5734860 >>5734832 So he's a bad guy for sharing it instead of hoarding it, because he didn't post about it all over the internet? Is this really your complaint?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:59:59 2019 No.5734873 >>5734857 Ironically they wouldn't have been interested in the games and known of their existence if the leak hadn't happened.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 20:03:48 2019 No.5734889 >>5734873 I don't know about Macro TV but back then I was already aware of Putle Story from rockleevk looking for it and The Alius from a different Saint-like streamer on twitch who plays rare PC games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 20:05:45 2019 No.5734891 >>5734860 He got literally paid for not sharing this game and yet he has done it to be the hero of his private tracker forum circlejerk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 20:14:05 2019 No.5734910 the fact that this all started because someone got butthurt over a throwaway shitpost on sows is the funniest part about this whole thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 20:27:44 2019 No.5734932 >>5734910 Can I get a link to the shitpost?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 20:28:32 2019 No.5734934 >>5734891 So he's a bad guy because he dumped a game that wasn't supposed to be shared, and now people can play it?

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 20:34:21 2019 No.5734949

>>5734891
I don't think there was anyone to circlejerk to, since according to him, nobody really gave a shit about any of these games. It sounds like he put them on the tracker on the off chance there was some lone soul who really wanted to play it (although he didn't count on that person both existing and not caring about the rules of the private tracker).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 20:39:00 2019 No.5734956 >>5733349 >pic related >file deleted WHAT DID THE JANNIES MEAN BY THIS BROS???

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 20:41:40 2019 No.5734959 >>5733598 >Mushidanshaku No Yakata https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r251662825 Yo the box art of this game looks SICK, where's the iso of this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 20:51:56 2019 No.5734975 >try to join this super ebin private tracker >got as far as finding their IRC channel and entering it >promptly ignored by everyone when asked about joining Yeah I'm not sucking dick for this autism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 20:59:41 2019 No.5734994 >>5734975 This is why all top tier private trackers like PTP or RED have a vetting process. It's to weed out garbage people like you, who feel entitled to unlimited free shit at the click of a button, at any time, at no cost or effort to yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 21:00:40 2019 No.5734995 >>5734994 Nice job assuming things from a person you don't know. Keep the keys to your sekrit club.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 21:03:20 2019 No.5734997 >>5734995 What I know is what you posted, which is that you don't know the first thing about how private trackers work, and are not even willing to put in a minimal effort to learn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 21:04:06 2019 No.5735001 >/vr/ defends hoarders expected as much from autists who stash plastic because muh 4ms of imput leg

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 21:19:43 2019 No.5735026

>>5734995
You're not missing out much, private trackers are your typical pyramid scheme.
The only way to keep a decent ratio is to run a seedbox, of course FOR FREE so whoever is running the site can get e-cred from you in exchange for shitty torrents that could have been open anyway since 99% of this shit is abandonware.
Some even include ways to buy ratio with real money, which is even funnier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 21:26:27 2019 No.5735043 >>5735001 >/vr/ defends hoarders >entire thread is people saying the hoarder is a faggot, but the guy who leaked early is also a faggot since now 3/4ths of the collection isn't getting dumped Nice reading comprehension there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 21:27:15 2019 No.5735046 >>5735026 It depends on the tracker. Some of them, like sows, do freeleech every couple months so people can build up ratio. Others don't give a shit about ratio as long as you're not just grabbing one file and running off.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 21:29:26 2019 No.5735049

>>5735026
No respectable tracker lets you pay money for ratio. Also, private trackers are full of people who are knowledgeable in their respective communities.

Surviving on RED requires you to have a knowledge of music encoding and file formats. karagarga has people who archive lost films, bemanisows has its own internal teams of people who crack arcade games into being playable on PCs.
If you've ever watched a movie downloaded from torrents, there's at least a 1/3 chance the original rip came from hdbits.

Thinking that a seedbox is required to use trackers proves that you know nothing. Hdbits even discourages the use of seedboxes by counting ratio against you on otherwise free leech torrents.

Every time you open your mouth you show that you're an entitled, retarded fuckwad who has absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 21:33:49 2019 No.5735060 >>5734994 retrowithin is all freeleech though...

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 21:39:06 2019 No.5735069

>>5735049
Wanna spot a leech who demands shit for free without being willing to give anything back? Find the person screaming about private trackers being "gatekeeping" or "circlejerks". Same fucks who constantly beg for shit in the /co/ mega threads but never upload anything to share. They never have a decent argument other than "ME WANT NOW!"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 21:54:14 2019 No.5735102 >>5733785 how is it archiving if you're only saving it for yourself and a select few other people? imagine if you opened a public library but didn't let anyone in

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 21:59:27 2019 No.5735117 >>5733783 copies game off a russian abandonware site thats been there forever and puts it up on mega Behold, I have archived a game

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:08:23 2019 No.5735127

>>5735102
>game isn't dumped
>therefor it's not archived
>game is dumped
>therefor it's archived
This isn't a hard concept. And the reason for it not being publicly released to everyone has already been explained. "WAH I CAN'T DOWNLOAD IT RIGHT NOW" is not an argument, and has no bearing on if a game has been archived or not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:09:31 2019 No.5735131 >>5734693 virgin detected

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:21:13 2019 No.5735151 >>5735127 how would you describe archiving then?

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:27:35 2019 No.5735159

>>5735151
Getting something copied so that if the original medium is destroyed, it's not lost forever. Or if not possible, putting it in the hands of those who can take care of it. For example, the Mona Lisa is archived in museums. You can't walk up to it and touch the fucking thing, but it's preserved for the future.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:27:44 2019 No.5735160 File: 696 KB, 500x667, bakuddmeme.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5734231

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:30:34 2019 No.5735161

>>5735159
so theoretically if i copy something for the original and only have it accessible for only 4 people on the entire planet (basically the same thing as not letting it be shared with everyone else), it's not lost forever despite the fact that i don't want them to spread it around to the enjoyment of everyone else much like the mona lisa?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:31:17 2019 No.5735163 >>5734826 they were on other abandonware sites but since he didnt upload them to archive.org they werent archived? not sure what point you're trying to make with this post

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:35:25 2019 No.5735171 >>5733345 So is the hot red-head Goblin in the game or what?

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:35:39 2019 No.5735172

>>5734975
I pmed bakudd asking for an invite to retrowithin because I wanted to download his games and he invited me right away even though I never talked to him before in my life. I didn't get the impresion he was gatekeeping, seems like they were available for anyone who was looking for them

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:36:15 2019 No.5735175
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>hey bro i've been looking for this really obscure painting for a long long time and i've searched around and basically have found out that you and your small little group are practically the only people that has access to it. if so, could i just please see it since you've properly archived it and have the original anyways?
>>lol fuck off nerd

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:37:40 2019 No.5735178 >>5735161 >5 copies >it's not lost forever Exactly. Even if the original disc is destroyed, there's still 5 copies out there. They may not be available to everyone on earth, but that game isn't lost to time. That's how preservation works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:41:44 2019 No.5735186 >>5735172 Wasn't he the one who gave an invite to Saint in the first place? That doesn't sound like a hoarder being owned or infiltrated, it sounds like a narcissist taking advantage of someone's kindness for ego preservation

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:44:20 2019 No.5735194 >>5735175 see >>5735172 More like "Sure, come on in and download a copy." But hey, keep screeching about how a private tracker is evil gatekeeping.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:46:26 2019 No.5735202 >>5735178 If only some gay clique has access to it, then it objectively might as well not exist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:47:04 2019 No.5735204 File: 108 KB, 1200x826, 321382891.1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is the game actually good? What about the first 2? Can we actually discuss this instead of the drama, I mean come on it's been over a year now

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 22:59:14 2019 No.5735223 >>5735202 So the National Archives shouldn't exist because you can't walk in and borrow one of the archived movies? You are one selfish faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:01:47 2019 No.5735225 No one could possibly give a shit about any of this, I'll bet a good 90% of these posts are just bakudd and saint talking about themselves

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:03:49 2019 No.5735228 >>5735225 Good point

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:05:12 2019 No.5735230 File: 43 KB, 570x587, (you).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5735223 >you don't support hoarders? >you selfish faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:10:24 2019 No.5735241 >>5734237 Makes sense, the game is meant for high iqs

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:27:34 2019 No.5735267 >>5735230 >national archives are hoarders! Your retardation just reached a new high. Please explain how the National Archives are evil hoarders.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:31:04 2019 No.5735272 >>5735267 I don't think it would be a stretch to say that the National Archives and a couple of faggots in their basement are two very different things. Not to mention the difference in the contents and the importance of the contents being archived.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:40:46 2019 No.5735296

>>5735272
>it's preservation but...!
So it's a matter of importance on what is being archived? A matter of scale? Are you even capable of making a single coherent argument and sticking with it?
>WAH THIS GUY IS A HOARDER!!!
>Uh, he's dumping the games
>BUT NO ONE CAN GET THEM!!!!
>All you had to do was join the tracker and fucking download them
>BUT I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT TO GET WHAT I WANT, THEY SHOULD BE EVERYWHERE!!!!!
>But if he did that, the hoarders wouldn't let him touch the games
>WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING HOARDERS?!
>No one is defending the hoarders, just telling you how this shit works
>IF I DON'T HAVE A COPY, IT'S NOT PRESERVED!!!!!
>That's not how preservation works retard, look at these other groups that preserve shit
>BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE!!!!

Every single argument you've made has been "I WANT IT NOW!" hidden behind a pathetic attempt at logic, that falls apart the exact moment you look at the facts. Try harder.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:43:00 2019 No.5735302 >>5735296 >THEY SHOULD BE EVERYWHERE!!!!! Even in your Dobson tier I AM SILLY bullshit you make a good point. It should be everywhere, that's the only way you can be sure it's actually archived.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:44:36 2019 No.5735305

>>5735202
>private tracker
>gay clique
If the files were actually restricted to a "gay clique", the guy who leaked it would have never gotten his hands on the files to begin with. Private trackers don't exist for the purpose of excluding people who want the files, but to try to keep them out the eyes of the general public (mainly copyright holders who can slam the uploader with a lawsuit, but sometimes other reasons like the person who uploaded it in the first place not wanting the file to get too widespread). The idea is that if you're interested enough in what the tracker is offering, you'll be willing to put in the extra legwork to show you're not going to leak shit.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:45:43 2019 No.5735309

>>5735272
The private tracker whatcd was the largest collection of music ever conceived by mankind. There has never been a governmental body or anything in history that even came close to its breadth and volume. And it was 100% curated by "faggots in their basement", as you call them.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:50:30 2019 No.5735320

>>5735302
Again, the National Archives won't let you walk in and grab any movie to take home with you. Saying the National Archives doesn't archive anything because everyone can't stop by and grab a copy is 100% fucking retarded. Do you have a single fucking argument, or are you just going to keep repeating the same bullshit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:51:11 2019 No.5735325 >>5735320 >grab any movie to take home with you Physical media and digital copies are not the same thing.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:52:50 2019 No.5735331

>>5735309
Everyone who downloaded tons of music was on whatcd though. RW is secret club mentality 100%, you aren't even allowed to mention it by name or if they find out who you are on there you get banned. Putting those games behind the power user forum restricted it even more since more than half the users aren't power users.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:53:37 2019 No.5735337 >>5735331 Yes, whatcd didn't have that rule. And look what happened to them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:54:37 2019 No.5735342 >>5735325 You can download old 1920 movies from them. But you can't download Titanic. Both are archived. Quit trying to hide behind semantics you whiny brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:55:01 2019 No.5735345 >>5735325 Tell that to the MIT guy who distributed a bunch of scientific papers online, got arrested for it, and killed himself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:56:09 2019 No.5735350 >>5735342 Pointing out that theft and copyright theft aren't the same is not being pedantic. One is taking something away, the other doesn't effect the item being copied.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:58:08 2019 No.5735359 >>5735331 Because it's so hard to make power user on a tracker that's 100% freeleech and doesn't even require you to upload a single torrent. You really are entitled.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:59:12 2019 No.5735362 >>5735350 I'm not the guy you're arguing with, but I think you're trying to derail the argument with a debate about what counts as "theft".

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 23:59:53 2019 No.5735364 >>5735331 And everyone who cares about the archival of retro games is on retrowithin. Your point?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:01:31 2019 No.5735368 >>5735359 Would take months without a seedbox. And good luck to anyone trying to get in that isn't already on another tracker or knows someone that's in.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:02:42 2019 No.5735370

>>5735350
But that isn't the fucking argument. The argument is
>>5735302
>It should be everywhere, that's the only way you can be sure it's actually archived.
>>5735320
>the National Archives won't let you walk in and grab any movie to take home with you
>>5735325
>Physical media and digital copies are not the same thing.
>>5735342
>You can download old 1920 movies from them. But you can't download Titanic. Both are archived.

Theft or copyright theft wasn't even a part of this conversation. You are trying to nitpick over the semantics of saying "grab a copy" instead of actually addressing the argument at hand. As mentioned earlier, you CAN download old 1920's movies from the National Archive, but not Titanic. This doesn't mean they don't have Titanic archived just because YOU can't download a copy.

Now, can you come up with an actual counter-argument to the current conversation, or are you going to try to hide behind semantic bullshit again?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:05:10 2019 No.5735380 >>5735364 >implying a couple thousand manchildren care about the archival of retro games

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:12:34 2019 No.5735395

>>5735368
Right, so you can't figure how to download the torrents with the most leechers, and seed them back. A killer combination of entitled and retarded.

>>5735380
Retrowithin is the relaunch of underground gamer, which was by far the largest tracker for retro games for many years, until it was infiltrated by EA lawyers when they briefly allowed open signups. A MASSIVE amount of the dumps available to us now are thanks to the users there. Learn the lore, don't be a zoomer idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:14:47 2019 No.5735404 Like, the people running no-intro, tosec, redump, they're all on underground gamer and retrowithin.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:16:30 2019 No.5735407 >>5735370 My argument is this: what is the point in """archiving""" something if nobody has access to it outside of a secret club? It might as well not exist at that point. 1920s movies and Titanic are not exclusively hoarded by the National Archives.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:18:54 2019 No.5735416 >>5733476 >>5733483 I think you guys are exactly the sort of people he wants to be upset by this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:19:28 2019 No.5735418 >>5734282 Doesn't he have a link from his Twitch page?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:19:58 2019 No.5735419 >>5735407 How do you think the youtuber was able to get his hands on it if nobody had access to it outside of a secret club?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:20:37 2019 No.5735421 >>5735419 I don't know, tell me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:23:16 2019 No.5735428 >>5735421 He asked around, someone explained how he could get the file, and he did it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:23:36 2019 No.5735430 >>5735407 Um, there are definitely many lost films from every time period which are "hoarded" and only given limited showings maybe once every year or two years.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:24:20 2019 No.5735432 >>5735428 Would you say he joined the club?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:26:04 2019 No.5735440 >>5735395 Don’t bother explaining shit to zoomers, they’re only able to process information if it’s in youtube video form

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:26:05 2019 No.5735439 >>5735432 No. I'd say the people who were in the "secret club" saw someone was looking for the file and shared it, even though they knew he likely wasn't going to seed or stick around after getting it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:31:21 2019 No.5735449 >>5734409 This again? I know it might be hard for you EOPs to ascertain, but look around 2ch/5ch's download boards. They certainly pirate. Or try looking at the peers of any torrent of recently released Japanese media. It's full of Japanese IPs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:33:45 2019 No.5735453 >>5735449 Oh look, the schizo joined in.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:37:32 2019 No.5735462 File: 312 KB, 1134x594, vinny.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:37:48 2019 No.5735463 >>5735449 There are Japanese IPs as peers but they dont actually seed

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:40:31 2019 No.5735467 File: 70 KB, 579x485, shirtimage-11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >only true Saint fans will get this joke

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:41:58 2019 No.5735470 File: 43 KB, 1000x1000, lurks.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:42:45 2019 No.5735474 >>5735463 They do. See for yourself in two weeks when new eroge comes out. >>5735453 Dilate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:44:30 2019 No.5735478 >>5734792 How the fuck do you buy a game with conditions? That is gay as fuck, I can do whatever the fuck I want with it if I buy it. Are people actually little bitches that go along with this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:49:04 2019 No.5735487 >>5735478 No, it was the buyer who specified that he didn't want the game to go public immediately after he bought the game, so the seller agreed it would be kept on private trackers until a certain amount of time had passed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 00:58:09 2019 No.5735516 >>5735418 Just took a look at it and it's full of childish meme shit, no vidya discussion anywhere

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 01:00:57 2019 No.5735526 >>5735516 vidya discussion is located outside the grid

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 01:03:41 2019 No.5735530 File: 20 KB, 650x183, PEDOPHILESATANISTFAGGOT.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] REMINDER THAT SAINTTTIMMY/OLVIN WEPLANIS IS A CONFIRMED PEDOPHILE

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 01:04:02 2019 No.5735534 >>5735530 shocking if true

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 01:21:16 2019 No.5735569
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>>5735416
im not seriously following this drama in any way, just happened to see the op, did a bit of googling and discovered a guy who makes unfunny videos, if youre trying to provoke a reaction by posting low iq memes that are about one step below tranny humor on the autism scale then well done i guess

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 01:31:42 2019 No.5735596

>>5735530
Who gives a flying fuck about this? It has nothing to do with fucking retro games.

>>5735407
Already explained by multiple people to your retarded ass multiple times in this thread. Because having this shit a quick google search away means the copyright holders and hoarders can ALSO FUCKING SEE IT'S A GOOGLE SEARCH AWAY. Which makes getting more of this material dumped THAT MUCH HARDER. Because the people who dumped it and don't want the copyright holders or hoarders knowing it's been dumped STOP DUMPING SHIT WHEN RETARDS "LEAK" IT! It wasn't out of reach of anyone who actually wanted a copy either, stop pretending it was trapped in a goddamn safe in someone's house.

The point of archiving or preserving ANYTHING is to make sure everyone in the future CAN access the material, that it ISN'T lost to time. It's not to give you a copy right now. And for the record, the National Archive is the only source for a great deal of material, including genealogy records and naturalization records where the physical records were destroyed decades ago. Guess what, they have lots of material YOU can't access. Guess there's no point in keeping that shit since retarded anon can't get his own copy! Dumb fuck.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 01:35:44 2019 No.5735607

>>5735596
>Because having this shit a quick google search away means the copyright holders and hoarders can ALSO FUCKING SEE IT'S A GOOGLE SEARCH AWAY.
I'm sure the copyright holders for games nobody ever heard of are really the litigious bunch. I mean Nintendo and Sony? Chump change, they can't get their shit pulled down off Googleable webpages, but Literally McWho? They got elite lawyers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 01:39:04 2019 No.5735616 >>5735607 At least three of those games actually were given to the guy who uploaded them by the original developers and copyright holders.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 01:40:07 2019 No.5735618

>>5735607
I mentioned copyright holders since modern arcade games popped up earlier. You better believe they will protect their copyright, it's why the download links on /1cc/ vanish so quickly. It's why the private tracker for new arcade dumps doesn't want any public notice.

Which still doesn't matter for the sake of the argument, since either copyright holders or hoarders finding out the game has been dumped is bad news, and will have negative effects either way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 01:40:31 2019 No.5735620 >>5735607 Depends on who it is and how much effort they're willing to put in, for example Presto Studios went around doing takedown requests of their Journeyman Project games several years ago.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 01:46:40 2019 No.5735638

>>5735607
Yes, exactly. Sony and Nintendo are so big and have so much constant copyright infringement that they just can't act on it all and can only hit easy targets. A small no-name developer that thinks they can make a quick buck is much more likely to pursue legal action.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 01:47:38 2019 No.5735643 >>5735620 Hell, look at Digital Leisure. Good luck finding a public download for ANY game that runs under Delphine they currently have the copyright for. Even many private trackers have Digital Leisure games blacklisted to avoid trouble.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 02:17:37 2019 No.5735712
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The sheer level of butthurt from these weird exclusivity people is blowing my mind. Do they honestly think they're going to redpill anyone in this thread? Do they not realize they're acting like fools and being laughed at? There comes a time when you should step away because hanging around only makes things worse

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 02:31:56 2019 No.5735741 >>5735712 >>/v/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 02:35:30 2019 No.5735752 >>5735712 Redpill implies that it's something people aren't aware of in the first place, a minority opinion. The number of private tracker users greatly outnumber the number of entitled shut-in nerds posting on /vr/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 02:36:54 2019 No.5735757 >>5735712 I'm butthurt as fuck that I can't play The Alius now. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/389923364 Look at how much it costs, no one is going to buy this shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 02:40:09 2019 No.5735764 >>5735757 ironically some other twitch streamer seems to have played it https://www.twitch.tv/macaw45/video/61932072 but no dump? you could try contacting him

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 02:42:55 2019 No.5735768 >>5735764 Yeah I know, I mentioned that earlier in the thread. I tried contacting him but no response. He has a bunch of other rare games too

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 02:43:44 2019 No.5735769 >>5735768 try his discord in the description, seems like he's active in there

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 02:51:50 2019 No.5735780

>>5735768
Since there's a video up no one will ever buy it, it needs to become a meme first and have some sort of mystique surrounding it before anyone on /vr/ is interested. Just like Garage, Chu Teng and Labyrinthe, people only care about it if they feel like it's out of reach

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 02:58:45 2019 No.5735790 >>5735780 idk, people itt with no knowledge of behavioral economics keep trying to make the argument that games don't lose their value when they're dumped

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 03:05:20 2019 No.5735805
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I still don't understand what the private forum people are trying to accomplish here. Like lets just pretend everyone suddenly starts to agree with you. What happens next? Thread is such an incomprehensible shitstorm of gibber jabber I can't even tell what people are trying to convince eachother of anymore

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 03:11:53 2019 No.5735810 >>5735805 yes we already know you lack reading comprehension due to your shitty attempt at setting up a strawman argument

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 03:16:07 2019 No.5735817
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>>5735810
See posts like this makes me believe they're firmly in the wrong. Acting like a smug asshole at every opportunity will never help. If anything it'll convince people to actively harm you. So lets try to start completely fresh and have a neutral and non-aggressive argument presented to avoid pointless internet slapfights

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 03:29:25 2019 No.5735834 >>5735817 hard to take you seriously when your tactics include both willful ignorance and/or distortion of facts to help your argument, truth doesnt seem to be a valued part of your discourse

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 03:33:55 2019 No.5735837

>>5735805
They are trying to get games dumped and preserved. So people can play them in the future. So they don't get lost to time. This has been said multiple times. You could at least try to read the thread before posting.

>>5735817
Oh, it's just you pretending to not understand the argument again. Let me try greentext.
>hoarders are faggots
>hoarders don't want shit released
>dumpers get chummy with hoarders
>lie to them and say they will never release
>they dump, then keep it quiet
>people deep into this stuff can get a copy
>but hoarder faggots don't know, think it's still private
>years from now it releases, hoarders don't know who to blame
>repeat for more rare games
Or
>dev/copyright owner will DMCA or even sue
>dumpers get chummy with dev/copyright owner
>lie to them and say they will never release
>they dump, then keep it quiet
>people deep into this stuff can get a copy
>but dev/copyright owner doesn't know, can't DMCA or sue
>years from now it releases, dev/copyright owner doesn't know who to blame
>repeat for more rare games

By all means, keep playing dumb. You are converting more people to your side by the second.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 03:38:06 2019 No.5735842 >>5735837 Sounds highly cliquey and very gay.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 03:39:31 2019 No.5735849

>>5735757
Hey that's my game. Keep in mind that if you buy it, you can't dump it, can't keep a copy, can only play it on every other Wednesday for a span of time no longer than 1 hour, have to delete saves after each playthrough to prevent leaks, oh and it actually will stay at my house so I can make sure you follow the conditions, but yeah, I'm happy to sell you this game!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 03:45:03 2019 No.5735856 >>5735842 You've been given every reason for why the system is the way it is, and all you can do is bitch you aren't a part of it? When all you had to do was not be a leech and you would have been? Jesus christ you are whiny.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 03:45:53 2019 No.5735859 >>5735842 This but for both sides, one guy keeping games on a private tracker to impress his clique and the other guy leaking one of the games to impress his clique, they're both self serving faggots

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 03:47:29 2019 No.5735860 >>5735856 I don't want to be a part of any circlejerk. That's why I post on an anonymous imageboard.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 05:00:20 2019 No.5735918

If you want to stop hoarders, stop acting like games like Labyrinthe are the lost Half-Life 3 holy grail. Hoarders get off to people getting mad at them for not being able to get their games. Ignore them like the insignificant trash they are and they'll go away.
>>5734608
>>that one faggot still ranting about byuu
byuu's a furfag lolcow without having to make up hoarding and pedo diaperfag accusations. All that guy's doing is making him look like a victim outside of 4chan. Call him on his actual bullshit like accusing UPS of stealing his games if you're that obsessed with ruining some random autist.
>Is Japanese fear of piracy law really this bad?
They just banned cheat code devices, and they arrested children for linking to a Javascript infinite loop. You don't fuck around in Japan. Their prisons are hard labor too.
>>5735060
Doesn't help when I can't even sign up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 05:55:39 2019 No.5735986 >>5735474 >Dilate What is this even supposed to mean? I asked one of my millennial kids and she said it means "I'm a zoomer". If that true? Why would you brag about something like that?

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 06:12:53 2019 No.5736013

To dilate means to insert something into your fake trans vagina to make sure it doesn't close, since in reality it's just a wound and the body treats it as such. Post-op transsexuals have to dilate pretty much for the rest of their lives.

>>5735986
Dilate.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 06:19:55 2019 No.5736018

>>5735834
I literally just started posting. You have a persecution complex and you lump anything not yourself as an enemy. This is unhealthy behavior
>>5735837
This response makes me believe there are no real winners here and everyone in this thread is an asshole for no other reason than ego stroking. I propose a solution, make private opposing subreddits to upvote eachother into oblivion. This way you can each circlejerk eachother until it all dies down. Either way you all suck

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 10:10:19 2019 No.5736427 So.... does anyone plan on talking about lost games or is it just going to be ego stroking the entire thread?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 10:31:32 2019 No.5736461 >>5735842 Like it or not, it's the only way to get games out of hoarder hands. Otherwise, they'll just keep them in their private collections forever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 10:46:14 2019 No.5736494 >>5736013 That's not true, and it doesn't matter anyway if you're getting banged by chad every night

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 11:11:36 2019 No.5736541 >>5736494 lmfao if you think chad fucks trannies

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 11:15:34 2019 No.5736548 >>5736494 Loool, I was joking by telling you to dilate, but it seems you really are a tranny.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 13:35:27 2019 No.5736793 >>5735817 feminism.jpg

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 14:03:08 2019 No.5736851 Why is this faggot bitching about ppl finding out that he put a file up on a publicly accessible folder

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 14:12:58 2019 No.5736873 >>5734994 No one gives a shit about anything in these private trackers lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 14:14:29 2019 No.5736875 >>5735049 redditfag detected

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 14:20:14 2019 No.5736884 >>5735757 fuck that's chump change i was expecting $1500 or some shit. do none of you people have jobs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 15:14:28 2019 No.5736964 >>5735769 Right, that is where I tried contacting him, he didn't answer. >>5736884 weird flex but okay. you gonna buy it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 15:24:24 2019 No.5736978 File: 987 KB, 271x226, smgdh.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5736873 This anon watches YIFY rips of capeshit at 720p and listens to all his music through youtube.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 15:25:55 2019 No.5736981 File: 50 KB, 379x500, 23carlin-500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5733357 shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker and tits

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 15:43:48 2019 No.5737017 >>5736873 i dont give a single iota of a fuck about any of this faggotry but if youre talking shit about my BTN so help me i will pop you upside your fool head. bitch ass zoomer muthafucka.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 15:44:38 2019 No.5737020 >>5736964 sounds like you gave up pretty easily try dming him, messaging a mod, messaging on twitch, etc...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 15:55:18 2019 No.5737054 >>5733358 >>5734231 is there a discord for obscure japanese pc games or is it more secret club bullshit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 15:57:34 2019 No.5737061 >>5736427 people don't actually care about lost games, they care about the drama surrounding them. lost games get posted on legends world and other sites pretty often but no one gives a shit because they can't complain about something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 16:05:19 2019 No.5737083 File: 11 KB, 566x208, legendsworld.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5737061 >legends world Wow, look at all these treasures.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 16:23:46 2019 No.5737117

>>5735516
There used to be a few months ago, before saint deleted everything and left with most of his friends. The only cool guy is MisterMan as he does a lot of scanning of auctions and knowing runes. Everyone else are just third world children that spam porn and gore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 16:29:34 2019 No.5737131 >>5737083 >it's ONLY interesting and has "value" when it's in Japanese

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 16:45:48 2019 No.5737156

>>5736978
Reminder that you can't listen to In The Court Of The Crimson King, widely considered one of the top albums of all time, on youtube, spotify, iTunes, or any other digital service. Your only option to hear it is private trackers, unless you want a letter from your IP and your internet shut off for downloading music from tpb (yes, this still happens) Plus you don't know if you downloaded a FLAC or, as is the case with public torrents half the time, a soulseek repost from some kid who ripped a 128kbps mp3 from his scratched CD and re-encoded it to FLAC.

This is why private trackers exist in the first place, so that like-minded people can get together to preserve and archive their old media in the highest quality possible, away from the prying eyes of copyright trolls. You can gain access to any of these sites easily if you're not a drooling ddiq and know the bare minimum essentials of how to use torrents. But yeah, if you equate a private tracker to a secret hoarding club where no one is allowed in you are definitely full blown pants-on-head retarded.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 16:59:55 2019 No.5737174

>>5737156
That's cool and all, but when someone comes into this thread, all they see are tracker people sperging out and bringing their drama on a board of people that are not involved and don't care unless there is a result. The dicksucking and social engineering to get the games is for the turbo nerds. I have more the impression that people come here to collect e-points.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:08:02 2019 No.5737191 >>5737174 And I've got to wonder what you're doing in this thread for the past two days. Are you the guy who decided to play Robin Hood and leak the files or are you just here to bitch about how much you hate private trackers?

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:11:08 2019 No.5737193

>>5737156
>You can gain access to any of these sites easily
It can takes months or even a full year to climb up some trackers if you don't have friends without invites. It's literally a secret club where you have to prove yourself to enter. Are you just trolling now?

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:11:11 2019 No.5737194

>>5737174
I really have no idea what this thread is about, all I know is that I scrolled down the main board, saw some posts with idiots shitting on private trackers with the tired "muh sekrit club" meme in 2019, and got annoyed. Didn't realize that this thread was somehow related to "tracker people" or why that would necessarily be a separate category from the regular users of this board.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:15:39 2019 No.5737209

>>5737156
>Plus you don't know if you downloaded a FLAC or, as is the case with public torrents half the time, a soulseek repost from some kid who ripped a 128kbps mp3 from his scratched CD and re-encoded it to FLAC.

It's piss easy to check whether the audio shows signs of compressions, but you can also check if it matches the CRCs of the original CD as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:19:45 2019 No.5737224 File: 443 KB, 741x812, I_love_vr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5737191 No, I'm just here to hear about saint and realize everyone involved into this is a huge faggot. Preservation in itself is important though.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:20:29 2019 No.5737228

>>5737156
Not him but
https://archive.org/details/InTheCourtOfKingCrimson
https://www.deezer.com/album/78808872
https://open.spotify.com/album/5wec5BciMpDMzlEFpYeHse

If you want to say "private trackers are so we don't have to deal with copyright bullshit and corporate meddling", that's fine and reasonable, but don't pretend it's some kind of noble endeavor, that's embarrassing. The vast majority of people in these circles treat it as a secret, exclusive club, and it's not like we're talking about actual, physical objects that can be unique and need to be actively protected...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:23:24 2019 No.5737245 >>5737194 It's basically like women denying sex and blueballing men, just with sweaty guys that use rare video games as their weapon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:29:29 2019 No.5737259 >>5737228 Some just don't understand that digital media has no value. When we are talking about a boxed game, that's what people pay for. Just data files are whatever.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:40:59 2019 No.5737289

>>5737228
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/king-crimson-moves-catalog-to-apple-music-spotify.html

Only happened 2 months ago. Forgive me if I didn't notice. And an archive.org link from April, are you serious? How long do you honestly think that is going to last? Are you really naive enough to think you can just throw up anything up on archive.org and it will just stay there on clearnet for all eternity, or are you just grasping at straws now?
As for physical media, it deteriorates, and usually needs to get digitized sooner or later. There are countless one of a kind films, records, and books from all over the world that have been preserved thanks to private tracker communities. There have been many mainstream media articles about their efforts. It's not some kind of well kept secret.
And torrent trackers are not "exclusive" in any sense except that, if you expect to just come in and use up someone else's bandwidth, then yes, they are exclusive to people who aren't entitled welfare queens that expect to get something for nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:44:56 2019 No.5737296 Saint's a g even before this happened Also I was wondering why he was following cursedcons on twitter so him being on sows is kinda great

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:46:23 2019 No.5737304 Lmao @ that king crimson album on archive Robert fripp is a luddite boomer though so there's actually a good chance he won't notice

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:47:51 2019 No.5737307 >>5737296 also sows has always been a shit, it makes sense within the context of the bemani community especially after Programmed World, but the userbase is terrible so whatever

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 17:49:30 2019 No.5737315 >>5737083 you gotta scroll through the garbage to find better shit retard. it's an archive, it's not going to include something because its "not cool".

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 18:09:24 2019 No.5737362

>>5737228
In every private tracker I've ever been in, treating it like a secret club will get you roughly the same response as trying to claim 4chan is. They generally let anyone in as long as they're not being an obvious bitch (ie. asking for an invite then throwing a fit when nobody responds instead of waiting a few days and trying again).

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 19:51:22 2019 No.5737638

>>5737307
uhhh sows is the least autistic tracker community on the interwebs my dude, ive been there since the beginning and sows has little if anything to do with this drama lmao

>>5737296
who is saint, what does he have to do with bemani games? bakudd says he invited saint to sows but he never posted or uploaded anything, not sure why hes allowed there tbqh if hes a proven leaker whos just there to repost all our shit to 1cc like every other mexifag

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 20:03:28 2019 No.5737659

>>5737638
Why do you suck his dick? I don't get it. Are you just hoping you'll get some of his super secret rare gamez? And have some independence for once and stop asking for your great leader's permission to make a fucking post. What's wrong with you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 20:06:29 2019 No.5737663 >>5737659 i dont have the slightest on what youre talking about senpai

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 20:22:27 2019 No.5737690 >>5737659 >hoping you'll get some of his super secret rare gamez Saint doesn't have shit. He's just a cool chaotic neutral dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 20:27:34 2019 No.5737703 >>5737690 >>5737663 I meant Bakudd. His cronies are in some Discord server relaying messages for him, it seems like.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 20:29:15 2019 No.5737707 >>5737703 the same could be said for saint, lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 20:41:46 2019 No.5737731 >>5737703 could be, i wouldnt know, i got here from sows forums

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 20:52:13 2019 No.5737745 >>5737638 >sows isn't autism but we're too scared to type out the actual name of our website for some dumb fucking reason i think its autism, chief

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 20:52:46 2019 No.5737748 I am a regular on the peepee nigger discord where saint and bakudd reside. They just gave me a direct order to post my dick and balls in this thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 20:55:29 2019 No.5737754 >>5737745 Yeah, you generally don't want to name private trackers. Once it gets to the point where people casually throw the name around, that's when the lawsuits start hitting.

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 20:58:35 2019 No.5737763

>>5735204
You Anon, deserve an award. The only post in this thread that attempted to discuss retro games, yet it seems no one actually cares about the origin of the game that started this drama. What a sad realization. I'd post my thoughts on it but I haven't played it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 21:04:55 2019 No.5737782 >>5737707 I'm a saint crony but I haven't been on the discord server in months so it's not like he's telling us what to do or anything

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 21:11:26 2019 No.5737801 File: 725 KB, 500x667, bakuddmeme.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SAINT INSTRUCTED ME TO SEND THIS MEME MAKE SURE IT REACHES BAKUDD, ANONS!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 21:20:21 2019 No.5737818 >>5737745 lol okay whatever you say broski, not sure who ur expecting to bait with this bottom tier trolling

Anonymous Sun Jul 14 21:44:01 2019 No.5737869
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I AM THE LEGENDARY FAGGOT NIGGER, HERE TO CAST JUDGMENT ON YOU ALL. MY JUDGMENT IS AS FOLLOWS: I FIND NONE OF YOU WORTHY OF THE (YOU)S BESTOWED UPON YOU IN THIS THREAD. I HEREBY CURSE ALL POSTERS RESIDING HERE WITH THE ULTIMATE FORM OF AIDS: LEVEL 999 FAIL AIDS.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 23:53:06 2019 No.5738070 >>5736013 So you're saying you're a tranny who's using a stent to keep your wound open? Why would you brag about something like that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 01:58:34 2019 No.5738258 >>5737017 lmfao bakuDD put up luv 2 shy flacs on sows so he's cool in my book

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 03:08:42 2019 No.5738349 File: 8 KB, 200x202, This.1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5733401

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 03:45:53 2019 No.5738419 >>5735849 proof?

Anonymous Mon Jul 15 04:59:36 2019 No.5738507

Jesus goddamn CHRIST. The fact that there are now anons on the retro games board who unironically think that torrent trackers are somehow ANTI-PRESERVATION is some truly mind boggling mental gymnastics and just shows the extent of how much zoomers have infected 4chan with their AIDS since its glory days. Goddamn it, have we seriously gotten to this point? Wow, fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 05:22:35 2019 No.5738538 >>5738507 Pantsshitting zoomers are going to be the death of western culture, mark my words. I blame the kikes for eroding our social cohesion with onions and nigger shit. We should have gassed them while we had the chance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 08:49:07 2019 No.5738787 Is anyone going to talk about the game pictured in OP Is it good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 08:56:08 2019 No.5738802 >>5738787 It's a macromedia game

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 08:57:30 2019 No.5738805 >>5738802 meaning what

Anonymous Mon Jul 15 10:04:20 2019 No.5738865

So this guy
>bought more than 1 copy of Labyrinthe
>uploaded it years ago to a sekrit club in a sekrit club for brownie points
>sold off the games and wanted it to not leak so he can sell it at an even higher price to some gaijin
And we are supposed to be grateful about all of this. lol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 10:08:48 2019 No.5738873 >>5733598 >Guardian Heroes Final. we are talking about the same Guardian Heroes from Saturn? fucking bitch hoarders, what is their problem by keeping all those games?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 10:23:56 2019 No.5738887 >>5738865 The weekend's over, so the guy posting the bait is probably gone. You can leave now.

Anonymous Mon Jul 15 11:14:53 2019 No.5738959

>>5738873
Just googled it and I think thats supposed to be Guardian *Heroines* Final which is some shitty dojin game from the looks of it on youtube.

>>5738887
This seems like a good opportunity to quarantine this thread and remove all the waste of space weeaboos who shit up the boards with threads about shitty hipster games that they can't even read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 11:37:05 2019 No.5738987 >>5738959 That Retro Bishoujo thread is straight cringe

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 12:05:53 2019 No.5739060 >>5738959 >complains about weaboos on 4chan of all places

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 12:20:21 2019 No.5739081 Holy shit is everyone involved in this a giant faggot.

Anonymous Mon Jul 15 12:21:07 2019 No.5739085

>>5737083
>there was a Life with Louie videogame
That actually is interesting.

>>5738507
It's literally just Saint pretending to not understand. He tried arguing it up and down this thread, then started to pretend he didn't understand all the big words and everyone should just agree with him because man, those big words are hard to understand! People have tried to explain how he just fucked things up for everyone who actually wants all these games preserved, but he's too brainlet to understand why /vr/ isn't sucking his dick for his retardation.

Anonymous Mon Jul 15 13:14:31 2019 No.5739192

>>5739081
not sure which is worse the as always autistic private fag tracker cucks defense force or the aspie weeb streamer virgin damage control squad

"uhm well ackshually its easy to join RED just wait 5 hours in irc queue to take the interview, ok first question what is the exact frequency cutoff in audacity for a transcoded v2>flac, wait you answered too fast did you just google it? youre banned forever"

"dont talk that way about saint chan he is such a chaotic neutral with +3 stamina sugoi! *sunglasses guy, speedo guy or some other forced meme* nice vid saint hehe we did it reddit, thanks for the donations here are some more WACKY shit from vector.jp"

worthless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 13:23:57 2019 No.5739219 >>5739192 >messaged dumper for invite >got invite >got in, started downloading stuff Yeah, these fucking hoops I gotta jump through, jesus christ.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 13:27:51 2019 No.5739224 >>5739085 like, have sex, man

Anonymous Mon Jul 15 13:40:18 2019 No.5739243

>>5739219
Honest question, wtf is the point in all this? For like the games, aren't they all pretty shitty? Why would someone want to play them when you have access to so many good actually released games and tons of other shit to do with your life? Even if you are a game historian it takes a lifetime to just play all the good released stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 13:45:14 2019 No.5739253 >>5739243 Obviously this thread wouldn't have happened in the first place if nobody wanted to play Labrynthe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 13:58:18 2019 No.5739276 >>5739243 To preserve every game. The entire point of game preservation is to preserve every game. >>5739224 >Dude, why do you care about videogames on a board about videogames? As usual, /v/irgins have no actual argument, just shitposting and memes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 14:02:44 2019 No.5739282 Fuck labyrinthe thats like some gay twinkletoed fairy shit, I still want THIS >>5734959

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 14:06:39 2019 No.5739287 I am a fucking piece of shit faggot I have never had sex, I have only had sex had to me (by big black cumfilled cocks), I'm a nigger, a jew and a sperg faggot queer ccuck tranny

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 17:08:21 2019 No.5739690 File: 2.76 MB, 3687x2602, mushidan.1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5739243 Good is subjective, some people enjoy playing games that are terrible >>5739282 It's yet another crappy macromedia director game

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 17:11:29 2019 No.5739696 >>5739282 Then buy it, it's 25 bucks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 17:35:25 2019 No.5739746 >>5739690 >macromedia director The game engine of choice for true artists

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 17:48:31 2019 No.5739763 >>5739276 Why? Imagine having the mindset that all drawings ever should be preserved or all songs, etc... What's the point?

Anonymous Mon Jul 15 18:30:32 2019 No.5739852

>>5739763
So they don't get lost to history? On the off chance you aren't just pretending to not understand the point of history preservation, I'll try to explain in words you can understand.

If we don't preserve everything, then how do we pick and choose what gets saved and what gets lost? By what's currently popular? A specific level of interest from the public? Only the top 10 on a console are worth keeping? The people involved get to chose what is history for everyone else? Only games that were best sellers? Where the fuck do you draw the line? How do you justify your nostalgia for game X being more important than someone else's nostalgia for game Y?

And that's why preservationists try to preserve all of history, and not just a small part of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 19:31:49 2019 No.5739956 >>5739763 >Imagine having the mindset that all drawings ever should be preserved or all songs, etc That would be ideal for history's sake. Imagine have all that from Ancient Rome, it would be awesome.

Anonymous Mon Jul 15 19:37:42 2019 No.5739961

reminder that bakudd didn't care about any of the games people claim in this thread he was "saving", and when an outsider who was actually interested in a game he locked up he called them insane and mentally ill just for wanting to play a fucking specific video game. I get the arguments that we would have more stuff from him, but you can't argue that he was in the right. he's the insane one

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 19:48:47 2019 No.5739979 >>5739961 He's been in this thread the last couple of days laughing at all of the crazy shit people have been posting about him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 19:54:16 2019 No.5739989 File: 24 KB, 400x400, 1563234856895.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5739979 good

Anonymous Mon Jul 15 21:12:42 2019 No.5740150

>>5739961
>he didn't care about these games
>that's why he hunted down the original devs to get a copy, ripped it, took the time to scan the manual and box art
>because he didn't care!
>he insulted people for showing interest
He called Saint an autist, after Saint went full retard and leaked shit all over his obsession over shortstack goblin macromedia game, I don't see anyone else saying he insulted them. Got any proof? HAHAHAH, why am I even asking? Fuck off Saint.

>>5739956
Oh god that would be amazing. Imagine all the graffiti of Socrates calling people boy-lovers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 21:18:43 2019 No.5740160 >>5740150 lol, I bet baku hasn't played through any of those games. wanting to finish the last game in a series makes you an autist? I guess everyone who likes video games is one then

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 21:29:06 2019 No.5740174 >>5740160 >ignores reason for insult >makes up own reason Goddamn, you do have the tism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 22:48:18 2019 No.5740337 I refuse to believe that there exists 77 distinct individual people who care about anything posted in this thread, it reads like the same two faggots arguing back and forth with each other

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 01:01:25 2019 No.5740542
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I hate hoarder/private tracker kikes as much as the next NEET, but Saint man, you already know you went about this the entirely wrong way, and posting here doubling down trying to hide your autism just makes you come up looking worse and worse. We got what we wanted already, just call the guy a faggot, cut your losses and move on.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 01:45:22 2019 No.5740636

>>5740337
My first post is 25% of the way into the thread, calling both baku and Saint faggots. Me and at least 2 other people have been trying to explain simple concepts to either 1 retard or a group of retards. Feels like slapping a blind person. I stopped posting about 60% of the way through, just posting again this morning. Shitton of posts, a lot seem to be /v/ tourists.

>>5740542
He reminds me of JD's autism.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:12:29 2019 No.5740891

>>5734624
saint only uploaded labyrinthe, frank cifaldi uploaded all the other games and he is unquestionably a 100% homogay dildo licker

>>5735368
for cabal cucktrackers you need a seedbox but RW is literally perma freeleech and comfy af, you sound pretty dumb also i got invited right away from their irc just mentioning i used to be on ug

>>5739192
lol i have a funny story about being interviewed by the turbosperg red moderator but i need to figure out how to change details enough to tell it without getting narced on by some of the spergs creeping this thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 09:23:06 2019 No.5741240 >>5736981 solid 7

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 15:38:07 2019 No.5741953

>got linked to this from sows
Holy shit this board is a trash fire. Fuck secret club niggers who hoard games but you aren't any better. If there's something undumped I want I buy it and share it as many places as possible, this ensures preservation. I've done this for quite a few albums and even bugged Japanese artists to get stuff released digitally in the past.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 18:29:43 2019 No.5742354

>>5733345
Preserving lost media is important. Media is history; It reflects who we were and where we are at that time.

It is estimated that 70% of all silent films are gone. Lost forever. Kaput. Producers of radio shows used to demand that radio stations that got their records must smash them and send them back the bits before sending a new batch of records. The BBC dumped thousands of hours of programming. A studio fire erased decades of recording masters.

The only way we can preserve our history is to spread it around; No one place should only have everything.

Our history is constantly being lost and we should cherish what is found. Just a few years back, a work-in-progress manuscript (a "beta," if you will) of Dungeons & Dragons was found amongst a bunch of cardboard boxes that had been sitting dormant for ages. The Blu-Ray remaster of the movie Blade Runner was only possible because the movie studio had erroneously forgotten to dump dozens of boxes of film material from the movie that was meant to be scrapped shortly after the movie was released.

Our history is priceless; The people who have lost the most know this the most.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 18:36:18 2019 No.5742372

>>5742354
Dude, you're trying to give your life some meaning to fill the void of not being a normal good person who has a good family, kids, real job, etc... Old shitty games that nobody wants to play aren't history or culture, same as some sketch an untalented artist makes shouldn't be preserved forever. All this shit will be lost again someday, it's pointless and a clear waste of life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 18:54:53 2019 No.5742423 >>5742372 Stop projecting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 23:35:15 2019 No.5742954 >>5738887 >Thinking the baitposter has a different schedule on weekdays

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 01:02:00 2019 No.5743109

>>5741953
this is a retarded post but ironically there is actually is a guy on sows who has been able to get many albums digitally released but thats due to the fact he has connections in the japanese music industry, not some random nobody who autistically "bugs" people with pms on twitter or whatever in broken japanese

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 02:31:13 2019 No.5743215 >>5741953 There are japanese artists and indie artists on sows you clueless twat

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 02:41:17 2019 No.5743226 >>5742354 this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 03:02:43 2019 No.5743250 >>5743226 I agree but japanese don't care about preserving history, their entire culture is based on ephemerality

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 03:10:00 2019 No.5743259

My question is, why do people who own these ancient games not want their shit everywhere? Nobody cares about piracy of 20+ year old games. Most of the rights holders for these things are fucking dead and gone anyhow. So what is the endgame here? Why not just dump them all enmasse? Are they really worried about piracy of a game not even sold anymore or is there sone kind of asshole ITS MINE shit at play here? Not saying they SHOULD dump everything or that people who leak shit are justified, just trying to understand why it seems to be a much bigger deal to these people than to anybody else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 03:50:49 2019 No.5743290 >>5743259 This, no one is macking money on this shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 04:02:12 2019 No.5743301 >>5743259 He did dump everything, read the thread before you post

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 04:05:30 2019 No.5743304 >>5743301 I meant more in general, not this specifically, really. Why doesnt everybody just publically dump everything? Nothing seems to be stopping them other than their own desire not to. Thats what I was getting at, sorry if I wasnt too clear there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 04:06:20 2019 No.5743305 >>5743304 Capitalism

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 04:16:44 2019 No.5743313 >>5743305 There is literally no capital involved, you cant go to a store and buy this games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 04:32:18 2019 No.5743324 File: 44 KB, 610x368, Df3nhnoU0AEYp6r.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5733358 >He asked me to delete that pic on discord just now hold still

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 04:35:55 2019 No.5743334 File: 54 KB, 604x453, notsureifbait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5743313 ...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 13:12:54 2019 No.5744001 >>5742423 Response of a child. >>5743109 Anybody can get music released digitally. >>5743259 Nobody gives a fuck about them, that's why. You also wondering why Flash games of websites for little children aren't being dumped and preserved?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 13:14:45 2019 No.5744002 >>5744001 >Flash games of websites for little children aren't being dumped and preserved? But they are... https://archive.org/details/NewgroundsAuditorium https://archive.org/details/WindowsFlashParodiesCollection

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 13:47:21 2019 No.5744068

>>5743259
In this case, there were only a handful of games that were supposed to be kept "under the radar". Some of them were in there because the dumper paid a lot for them and wanted to make sure he got most of his money back before deflating the value by making the rip too easy to find. Others were given to him by the original developers and they asked that the games not be spread around too much for legal reasons (since they technically didn't own full rights to the game). In both cases, he still made them available in a small corner of the internet for people who really wanted them badly enough (with a disclaimer asking not to mirror them).

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 13:50:07 2019 No.5744074

>>5744001
>Nobody gives a fuck about them, that's why. You also wondering why Flash games of websites for little children aren't being dumped and preserved?
You'd be surprised how many random defunct Flash games have communities trying to track them down because nobody saved them at the time. The reason that you preserve as much as you can is because you can never know which games people will suddenly care about two decades later.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 13:55:53 2019 No.5744089

>>5744074
Just stop responding to the moron. He got BTFO yesterday, and now he's changed to the argument that anyone who cares about preserving shit is somehow a damaged human because of it. Because screaming about people who are doing something you obviously don't care about is a sign of mental health?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 14:28:16 2019 No.5744161 >>5743109 >some random nobody who autistically "bugs" people with pms on twitter or whatever in broken japanese It legitimately has worked for me in the past but you do you anon

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 14:30:26 2019 No.5744173
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>>5744001
Bakudd was dumping some childrens games going off this image. Ponkickies is a japanese sesame street type show and Niningashi is a math game for kids which I think he or someone else dumped on Macintosh Garden. I think domo kun is for kids too. Also when I looked at his thread on tokugawa forum he was talking about emailing some developers of old childrens games to see if they had copies left. So, at least one person seemed to care about them quite a bit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 14:57:11 2019 No.5744225 This thread is boring, lets think of gross names for the people posting in it Taint Baku Pee Pee

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