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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5727254

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0 [Embed]

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

Doom RPG series
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
https://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K
https://pastebin.com/idahQRj2

>> No.5732971

=== ONGOING ===

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Deadline: July 14th 23:00 GMT
-All details and a FAQ can be found in the following pastebin to help get you started
https://pastebin.com/j8crafJN

=== NEWS ===

[7-8] New beta release for La Tailor Girl
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=390#p1110538

[7-4] Alien Bastards! a new Doomer Boards mapset inspired by Alien Carnage
http://doomer.boards.net/thread/1541/dbp13-alien

[7-3] Quake Speedmapping Pack 198: 768 ^ 2
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61748

[7-1] Anon updates 'Demon CounterStrike' to fix Rocket Launcher spawns
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/5701806/#5702668

[6-29] Anon map release: TESTINGGROUND.wad
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehkggu5q3p4n8jp/TESTINGGROUND.wad?dl=0

[6-28] Masters of Doom to get a dramatized TV adaptation
https://www.pcgamer.com/james-and-dave-franco-are-producing-a-television-show-based-on-masters-of-doom/

[6-27] 'Vanilla Doom Plus', a monster variant randomizer balanced closer to vanilla
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106432-vanilla-doom-plusmonster-randomizer-updated-june-25th40-added-monsters/

[6-22] /vr/ is hosting it's own Quake mapping project! GET IN HERE FAGETS

[6-20] Copper for Quake released: a vanilla+ mod (includes optional map pack)
http://lunaran.com/copper/index.html

[6-17] Coffee Quake released, 76 speedmaps in 4 episodes
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_p8iwL2Vw&feature=youtu.be [Embed]

[6-15] Guncaster 3.3 released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcUHPmb76do [Embed]

[6-15] Doom the Golden Souls 3 announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rivZEQ2mNFg [Embed]

[6-15] MetaDoom player feedback survey
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfRZWx1kN9FpAShfjXcmS9Co9MNTYWLwD-hupYfhAduD5334g/viewform

=== PREVIOUS ===

https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5732985
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5732985

This is the dumbest fucking row of ceiling lights. No one ever looks up anyway, though. Fuck it. id didn't even bother putting physical light sources half the time.

>> No.5733001
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5733001

Don't be a dick.
Help others, even if that means playing a direct hand in mapping or coding.
Don't just say "you want us to do all the work!", for this is ignorance.

>> No.5733004

>>5733001
I'm going to have gay sex with each and every one of those anthropomorphic cartoon goat men.

>> No.5733006

>>5733001
>no /fit goat on top
>overcome all that bullshit and idealize your personal potential by lifting heavy weights and eating right.

>> No.5733024

>>5733004
whoa there buddy
>>5733006
>thinking it's all about the muscles
You would be on the bottom, with the reds.

We need this image modified with applicable retro stuff, though.

>> No.5733028
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>>5733024
>not realizing it's an expression of self control.
>unironically thinks it's a point buy system like RPGs

I-im not fit but it's okay because I'm smart.

>> No.5733034

>>5733024
this image is technically correct in some ways but im going to assume the authors idea of help is "punching nazis" I am only assuming this because this shit looks like it was pulled right from tumblr

>> No.5733041

>>5733028
Thinking fitness is the end all be all proves you have no maturity.

>> No.5733043
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>>5733034
You have to go back.

>> No.5733047

>>5733041
>scorns others efforts
>knows everything

>> No.5733048

>>5733043
it looks like tumblr shit how is saying that /pol/ faggot

>> No.5733050 [DELETED] 

>>5733043
Shut up kike, /pol/ owns 4chan now.

>> No.5733051

>>5733043
Ouch faggot finds it too true.

>> No.5733052

>>5733047
I'm not pretending to be mature though

>> No.5733053 [DELETED] 
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>>5733048
>using tumblr as an adjective
>not a phrase straight out of /pol/ddit dialect

>>5733050
>>5733051
Please see the image attached, thank you.

>> No.5733057

I'm still so mixed on Blood upon revisiting it. Its like half of the game is terrible and the other half is incredible. Fighting cultists can sometimes be exhilarating but at others it can be annoying and frustrating. The other problem is that Blood's other enemies are mostly just annoyances rather than enemies that add to its core combat experience. The ghosts and the smaller flying golems might as well not even be there. I think they both could have served as some projectile based ranged enemies but both of their ranged attacks deal almost no damage to you. Also the larger stone golems literally cannot it you if you are crouching. I don't understand how that got past testing. Episodes 1 and 2 are both fantastic but 3 and 4 are mixed bags AT BEST. If there was one game that I wish could get a quality remake, it would be Blood. There is a truly GOAT game buried in there somewhere.

>> No.5733061
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5733061

I decided to keep playing Obituary despite hating the rocket launcher zombies, and I have to say their "Hightech Guy" custom monster is actually neat. Nearly invisible, extremely fast, doesn't do a ton of damage but it's hitscan and a decent RoF, while also being about as frail as a zombieman and making constant noise while moving so you know when one is near (unless they just became alert and get the jump on you). Overall I approve of the enemy and think it adds something to DOOM's bestiary, though I don't know if I'd want it in every wad.

>> No.5733084

>>5733057
cultists are literally the only thing good about blood. The combat in every other regard is absolutely terrible and broken.

>> No.5733087

Hl sold more than doom and goldeneye.

>> No.5733090

>everyone's mapping for quake
>still can't make decent doom maps

Yo, just end me. Being stuck with SLADE on Linux certainly doesn't help.

>>5733053
>a phrase straight out of /pol/ddit dialect

hownew.ru

>> No.5733095
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5733095

DBP10. Another fantastic DoomerBoards wad. Duke Nukem-style city maps, but with a trippy twist. And this map uses a MIDI of fucking Clever Girl, which was shocking to hear in a doom wad.

>> No.5733096

>>5733028
>>5733041
>obsessed with status/aesthetic appearance
>knows everything
you're on the bottom, meathead.

>> No.5733102
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>>5733053
Hating tumblr is not a pasttime exclusive to /pol/.

>> No.5733106

You can't refute sales.

>> No.5733107

>>5733090
I honestly find Quake mapping a lot easier to make than Doom mapping. It's easier for me to think in the third dimension, so I can pack a good amount of stuff into a 3D plane.

>> No.5733114

>>5733095
Link?

>> No.5733117
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>level geometry is getting progressively less detailed as I go
Oh well, at least I feel I can finish it now.

>> No.5733120

http://50.38.134.5/be_wads/

More than 200 gbs of doom wads, go nuts.

>> No.5733152
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5733152

I'll delete the post from the old thread and post it here instead, hope those two fellows who offered to play see this!

So, what if I told you a friend of mine managed to create a fusion of Starfox 64 and Ace Combat...

in GZDoom?
I've been helping him here and there with various things, but he's really doing the work because every time he updates it, it becomes almost an order of magnitude better than the previous version and he's just cranking these out every couple of days.

What do you guys think? Normally you'd think this would be better suited to /aceg/ but considering what it's running in, I figured I'd try here first.

Oh, and it's an IWAD with all original materials so it's standalone. We're hoping you guys can find some of the weirder bugs that might be buried in there, especially with all the new AI we're trying.

Here's the Doomworld thread regarding it: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107435-furys-sky-action-flight-iwad-for-gzdoom/

>> No.5733156

>>5733096
False. I lift because the weights are there. I do not lift for girls or status. Lift for yourself but not to excess

>> No.5733163
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>>5733152
I'll toss in the other screenshots while I'm at it

We've got animated briefings between missions, not as hard as I first thought it was going to be thankfully.

Total of 8 aircraft to fly, each one with different weapons you can unlock as well as stat upgrades to the planes themselves

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>>5733163
My personal favorite is this guy, the Condor. Secondary weapon is a high damage high ROF autocannon, and with the rate of fire upgraded to max it becomes a GAU-8 and is oh so satisfying. Need better sound effects for it.
Actually we need better sound effects in general

>> No.5733173
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>>5733168
Friendly and enemy AI form wings in groups up to 4 at a time.
Your own wingman can be commanded using the number row
1. Form up - Wingman will follow you close on your wing
2. Hold Position- Wingman will stay near the point you designated by switching to this command
3. Cover me - Wingman will fly around you in a defensive pattern, engaging enemies that approach too closely
4. Engage at will - Wingman is free to roam and engage enemy targets at his leisure.

We upgraded the pathfinding and combat AI for friendlies and enemies today, and we're excited to see where it's limits are.

>> No.5733191

How come nobody talks about Heretic when it is clearly better than Doom?

>> No.5733196

>>5733191
It's just not quite as fun nor as well known. I love Heretic but I've never enjoyed it like I enjoyed Doom

>> No.5733203

>>5733191
Heretic 2 is better.

>> No.5733209

>>5733196
Wrong.

>>5733203
Double wrong.

>> No.5733212

>>5730392
LegenDoom

>> No.5733214

>>5733209
Are you telling me I DID have more fun with Heretic and I'm just too retarded to know the difference? Well, glad you cleared that up for me!

>> No.5733217

>>5733191
>>5733209
Why are you so insecure in what you like? Why do you need the approval of others and get butthurt when they don't agree with you?

>> No.5733230

>>5733107
This. Doom won't let me do a lot of the things I want to do without resorting to 3D floor hackery all over the place. On the other hand, level control is so much better in UDMF.

>> No.5733259

Half Life is quite simply the greatest videogame to ever be created

>> No.5733260

half life is OBJECTIVELY a game

>> No.5733262
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Not retro but a sensible chuckle

>> No.5733280

>>5733156
>absorbed in the self
You're so red you're crimson.

>> No.5733285

>>5733156
Keep on gymcelling, bro.

>> No.5733297
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>>5733262

>> No.5733318
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>> No.5733324

reposting from previous bread
fellow doomguise, do you know what sound card or sound patch is used in this ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qURei6svd90
It has that big drum hit, that is not in SC-55 or other commonly used sound fonts for doom.

>> No.5733325 [DELETED] 

>>5733318
off yikes that's an epic lose jeepers creepers ooferooni poggers monkas

>> No.5733334

>>5733318
This shit is so fucking gay. I can't stand all this oof yikes goddamn fucking crap. You people are donkey brained.

>> No.5733337

>>5733334
Some idiot is gonna reply to this with oof or yikes but I feel your pain, anon. I'm tired of people either using it ironically or using it as a replacement for an actual response.
I mean it'd be better to just not reply at all at that point.

>> No.5733340

>>5733325
>>5733334
It’s supposed to be Doomguy’s noise he makes when he’s wall humping, and the noises he makes in Eternal when he gets hurt.

>> No.5733341

>>5733337
>>5733334
seething

>> No.5733346

What weapons do you like?
For me, Grenade launchers feel underrated, I like them.
Flamethrowers are probably my favorite though.

>> No.5733347

>>5733346
AA-12, or any auto shotgun.

>> No.5733359

>>5731657
>Are the derisive "muh slaughter" remarks coming from some place of legit criticism, or are they from people who can't git gud at them?
This gives me the feeling you don't want a good faith argument here.
Anyway, what >>5731961 said already hits the mark. Slaughter is largely made by mappers who have played Doom ad nauseam, to the point where the traditional mechanics bore them and the only entertainment value they can get out of the game is by exploiting the system in an extreme manner. At that point what you're playing becomes a separate "meta" game (could almost be considered bullet hell), and that's not the genre most people came for.
I think that's why so many folks chafe at Hideous Destructor--aside from the steep (and arguably unintuitive) learning curve, the mod is a super sharp departure from Doom's simple-to-control high-speed power-fantasy thrill ride.

>> No.5733361

>>5733340
wasn't that actually "UNF"?

>> No.5733362

>>5731657
>>5733359
Personally, I also think slaughter has a bad habit of detracting from the importance of level design, the usefulness of the entire arsenal, and enemy prioritization.
Slaughter combat requires you to constantly stay on the move, and combined with the large enemy numbers this means slaughter maps are rather large and open. It's constant strafing combat with no time for level exploration and no place for using the map itself as an obstacle. Many slaughterwads are quite beautiful, but their arenas are reduced in function to eye candy.
The arsenal issue comes down to the fact that most slaughtwads are reduced to BFG and rocket launcher spamfests. That's what happens when every enemy encounter is a gigantic crowd, and you can't afford to waste energy cells on the plasma rifle; any other weapon (usually the SSG) becomes a cleanup tool.
And lastly there's enemy encounter prioritization, or the reduced importance of it. Part of the issue stems from the reliance upon area-of-effect weapons in slaughter combat, making every shot a "two birds, one stone" situation where any kind of precision targeting is inefficient. The other part of the issue is the inevitability of, and even reliance upon, infighting. It is insanely easy to initiate with such high monster counts, and this means huge parts of the crowd will be distracted by others--which in turn reduces threat levels and does much of the work for you. Monster crowds are reduced to large blobs for you to fire rockets into, and even the one threat that stands out above this (the Archvile) is not immune to such large-scale infighting.

>> No.5733364

>>5733341
((onions))

>> No.5733368

>>5733346
>>5733347
too bad those usually get done pretty badly
> auto shotgun
> semi auto pistol can fire faster/ can't hit shit

> flamethrower
> almost never worth using
> low damage/ crappy range/ eats all ammo instantly

one day i will include these in a mod, and have them be actually good

>> No.5733370

Hey, it's Saturday.

>> No.5733373
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>>5733370
SO THAT MEANS SCREENSHOT SATURDAY.
SO STEP UP AND SHOW US WHAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON MOTHERFUCKERS.
Art, sprites, mods, maps? I'm sure you guys have been busy, right?

>> No.5733383

Contagious laughter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXsChDuUZlk

>> No.5733431
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I saw Ranger at a home improvement store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “HUH? HUH? HUH?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen boxes of nails in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the boxes and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>> No.5733435
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I've been fixing texture alignment for the last two hours.

>> No.5733436
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>>5733373
Running buddha mode for video capture because our damage scaling is a little wonky at the moment

>> No.5733437

>>5733431
i don't think his hand has enough polygons to open or close

>> No.5733470
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Why don't triggers do what I want REEEEEEEEEE

>> No.5733472

>>5733470 meant for >>5733373

>> No.5733493

>>5733435
HOW

>> No.5733495

>>5733470
Sometimes triggers didn't fire when I assigned them directly to something. When I passed them over a relay, it worked. No idea why.

>> No.5733509

What ever happened to the guy who posted the "babby" map? You started in some cabinet and then went through some kind of space station looking warehouse thing and that was it, but it already had some really nice details.

>> No.5733519

Don't extend the HUH deadline. It was already extended like a week. I wanna play all the maps. All the map shitters that couldn't finish their map (me included) had enough time...

>> No.5733571

When I try to launch SIGIL with ZDL it tells me "failed to launch the process." I'm using latest GZDoom and doom1.wad. Anyone know why?

>> No.5733572
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>that map that had nicely detailed church but played like something tried to recreate serious sam

>> No.5733576

>>5733519
multiple deadline extensions are a cornerstone of modern quake mapping

>>5733509
what game? we need some context or more details here man

>> No.5733583
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>>5733209
Doom:
>Chainsaw
>Berserk Fists
>Super Shotgun
>Plasma Rifle

Heretic:
>Has only reskins of three of those, doesn't even try to have a Super Shotgun

I think we have our winner.

>> No.5733625
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My priority while considering extensions is whether or not this is going to help get more anons to finish their maps, the way I see it the more the merrier.

BUT before we proceed I would like to know what (you) think, so yeah another poll

https://strawpoll.com/ss37bshw
https://strawpoll.com/ss37bshw
https://strawpoll.com/ss37bshw
https://strawpoll.com/ss37bshw

>> No.5733634

>>5733625
I'm at the detailing stage but definitely can't get it done by Sunday's deadline; I didn't realize how quickly time actually goes by when you're detailing stuff, you look down and a whole hour has gone by and you've finished one room. No idea how many maps have actually been sent in yet but I think there's a few others still 'in the wild' as well unless those anons finished and submitted them without giving it away here.

>> No.5733653

In my HUH map, what do I set trigger_changelevel to? There's gonna be a mega"wad" in the end, isn't there?

>> No.5733656

>>5733634
so far I got 5 maps, I should double check the threads just in case I missed a link out there, the last one was 655321 sent to me on Wednesday

>>5733653
you can link it to the start map or whatever you want, once I get everything I will link them accordingly

>> No.5733660

>>5733634
I haven't sent my map yet but I can definitely finish by tomorrow.

>> No.5733662

>>5733656
>you can link it to the start map or whatever you want, once I get everything I will link them accordingly
Guess I'll set it to direct to the start map, then. Didn't you say something about running custom progs that auto-reset inventory on level clear instead of having to mess with the rune-reset setup?

>>5733660
Well nuts to you, frankly.

>> No.5733665
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Why do these completely uninteresting, unnecessary games even exist?

>> No.5733667
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Some months ago there was an anon working on a succubus mod. Did anything come out of it? I remember him stopping posting pictures since he got b& for it a couple times.

>> No.5733669

>>5733667
>that tiny censor square
What, no horse dick?

>> No.5733671

>>5733662
yeah, that will come in handy no matter the format
I was thinking maybe we could do two different releases, one with a hub and another one in sequential order, both using the progs

>> No.5733674

>>5733669
Some people like vaginas.

>> No.5733683

>>5733671
Ehh, the problem with sequential order is that it has to be done one of two ways- either carry over the weapons and armor from the previous map, which will make every map past the first much easier than intended as so far they're all meant to be shotgun-started, or wipe the player's inventory anyway, which gives no advantages other than not going back to a hub map. A lot of people like hub maps- myself included so I'm biased as fuck here- as they're universally neat and give a nice way for players to wander around and play what they think looks good or interesting in whatever order they want, with no back-end debates about whose map should go where in the order.

If the maps had all been designed with a specific, universal setpiece as the start and finish for each so they were all visually (if not gameplay-wise) interconnected, it'd be one thing, but I think most everyone went in wildly different directions with their maps theme-wise.

>> No.5733687
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>>5733665
i prefer heretic to doom purely because of the setting. i'm a fantasy autist on top of being an fpsfag so it's literally my ideal video game

>> No.5733689

>>5733674
Vaganias are gross.

>> No.5733694

>>5733683
fair point, my biggest concern with maps in sequential order was the inability to try the maps in whatever order you want, but I had some people approach me with the linear suggestion

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>>5733694

>> No.5733707
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>>5733687
>Hexen's licensing is still up in the damn air and id wasted Galena on quack champs and will never use her in a proper sword-and-shells-and-spells SP game
I will never, ever not be fucking mad.

>> No.5733710

>>5733703
it's poor form to release the exact same map set twice, one with a hub and one without

>> No.5733719

>>5733656
What's the start map? start.bsp?
Also, we submit .maps then, not .bsp's?

>> No.5733724

>>5733719
Start map is just 'start,' you don't include the .bsp part when entering the name in the changelevel trigger. IIRC the showrunner wants both; most of the time it's common courtesy to supply the .map along with the .bsp for any map releases in case someone wants to see how something was done in a map, but it's not a necessity.

>> No.5733726

>>5733710
No way to make it 2in1? Choice is nice.

>> No.5733728

>>5733703
>>5733710
I dont see why we couldn't upload the hub one to quaddicted and leave an extra link to the linear one in other places like func or here, just as a bonus

>>5733719
both

>>5733724
exactly, the reasoning was so I can change the change level triggers if necessary
I was thinking of sneaking a secret map with the classic double sided slipgate gimmick

>> No.5733729

>>5733383
Holy fuck you're right. I wish there was more doom related videos like this.

>> No.5733730

>>5733726
not so far as i'm aware, no

>> No.5733732
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5733732

>>5733729
There are plenty but they're on small channels. Hard to find and all that.

>> No.5733754

>>5733669
Zan pls

>> No.5733762

>>5733754
I don't know who that is.

>> No.5733765

>>5733762
Hedon dev and futa horsedick connoisseur

>> No.5733771

>>5733765
Oh. I like their concepts even if their own art tends to be mediocre.

>> No.5733787

>>5733509
that was me, I posted my map a week ago because I had to go down to Florida without any way to work on it and assumed the deadline was still the 7th. I think I'm almost done, just need to figure out how to make a slipgate exit

>> No.5733792
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5733792

Where'd you go, Hollowlands-anon? See >>5733373

>> No.5733794

>>5733792
tfw the demo he posted doesn't work with current gzdoom

>> No.5733798
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>>5733794
Don't know if this is the latest one but it works just fine

>> No.5733807
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5733807

>>5733798

>> No.5733818

>>5733807
https://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/
No problems here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.5733831

>>5733787
Nice, looking forward to it.

>> No.5733834

>>5733787
>just need to figure out how to make a slipgate exit
What do you need figuring out? Just copypaste a slipgate from one of the id maps and put an exit brush there.

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>>5733818
Ah shit, here we go again

>> No.5733870

Do the gold and silver keys have spawnflags to make them keycards? I can't find them in the entity list.

>> No.5733876

What's the point of .Vis? How important are not having leaks? Do maps run bad with them or what?

>> No.5733878

https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1150023255882752001

>> No.5733883

>>5733870
YOu have to choose the theme in the worldspawn entity. You can have medieval, runic or techbase, so you can only have keys, runes or keycards, but not mixed afaik.

>>5733876
Just use google. Vis basically computes WHEN you can see stuff, so it won't be rendered unnecessarily. I don't know how relevant this it today, but my autism would never allow me to have leaks or anything.

>> No.5733896
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>>5733883
My map probably has small leaks all over the place because the moment I realized Quakepasm will run it even with leaks I stopped giving a shit.

>> No.5733904

>>5733896
Your map has a leak the moment an entity can view the void. That also includes placing triggers and relays in the void.
Sometimes you forgot to close some weird angle, though and that might help finding ugly holes that shouldn't be there.

>> No.5733912

>>5733436
FAEBs or bust

>> No.5733928

>>5733665
Is is some /v/-tier shitposting. Heretic and Hexen are absolutely fantastic.

>> No.5733940 [DELETED] 

>>5733940

>> No.5733981
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5733981

I've been out of these threads for 2 months fellas,what did I miss?

>> No.5733985
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5733985

hey I'm trying to play doom64 ex but I can't set the resolution to 1080p because a part of the screen gets cut off (picrel), any fixes?

>> No.5733992

>>5733985
Try
>vid_scalefactor 1

>> No.5734002
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5734002

>See latest Ion Maiden/Ion Fury trailer
>Looks absolutely dope
>Remind myself that Hdoomguy made some sprites for the game,like some blood and weapons
>Sgt. Marky Mark never had the chance to work on a game ever
>TFW the one who's infamous for making a porn mod for Doom actually worked on a game unlike the other modder who spent 9 years of his life on adding features making it a cluttered mess,which is also the most popular mod of the community.

>> No.5734003

>>5733992
what file do I put this in?

>> No.5734010

>>5734002
H-Bomb when?

>> No.5734015
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5734015

First version of my map is finished. Feel free to give it a spin - feedback will be greatly appreciated. The medium skill might be closer to vanilla hard than vanilla medium.

Also the cave-like environments apparently have leaks through solid walls, no idea how to fix that.

https://files.catbox.moe/0tyoq8.bsp

>> No.5734018

>>5734003
In the console. Try restarting the game if nothing happens.

>> No.5734019
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>>5734018
doesn't work

>> No.5734023
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5734023

>Play Guncaster
>Really good as usual
>Try Guncaster Vindicated
>I like it even better
>Look it up and some people complain that it nerfs Cygnis too much and lost the point of feeling powerful
>You can literally adjust it on the option

I just don't get it,"Vanilla" Guncaster has so many weapons but you're not going to use all of them because they're OP. They're wonderful but they feel like a waste.
Even with the Universal Adapter,with Colourful Hell etc. they're too powerful,so sorry if I want to use all these tools and to have a bigger challenge.

>> No.5734026
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>> No.5734027

Wouldn't some maps from the OG Duke guys be fucking dope for IF? I hope they do an expansion or something like in the old days where 3rd parties would do that

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>> No.5734031

>>5734015
enclose them in a box outside of the geometry?

>> No.5734036
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>>5734027
That would be awesome, I mean they got some old mappers from Duke 3D for the 20th anniversary edition,I think they would gladly do so.

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>> No.5734041

>>5734037
lol

>> No.5734042

>>5734037
do not tempt me dumb lizard mistress
I'll handhold you so hard you will become a devout mormon

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>>5733373
it's fucking nothing.

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5734048

jap mythology doom when?

>> No.5734050

>>5734036
I love the new 5th episode. The amount of detail they could cram in was wonderful. And we see that even more so with Ion Fury. They even talk about they're original scope and plans for Duke 3D with maps but had to keep scaling back and scaling back as the game had to run at a minimum of 20fps on a commercial rig they had.

They said Hollywood holocaust had clothes and jewelry stores you could go into and palm trees and a large bridge and it all had to just get kept peeled back. When you play it now it's so empty and it's such a shame. A full remake of Duke 3D even in a current build engine would be so interesting. Even just the first episode even. To see it flooded with detail what they would have done had they the tech back then.

>> No.5734058

>>5734048
this reminds me of that metal slug 3 boss at the end of the desert/pyramid level

goddamn i want an fps metal slug adaptation
a game where you shoot more than you move
and you move a whole lot

>> No.5734060

>>5734048
>gats
also check the gameplay mods section in the zdoom forums

>> No.5734061

>>5734048
>That one yokai that just licks the moisture off the ceiling

>> No.5734069

>>5734050
I think Hollywood Holocaust is still a good introduction on what Duke 3D is all about.
But yeah,still a shame.

I remember there was remake of L.A. Meltdown made with the Serious Sam 3 engine. It was good but when it added new sections it was pretty terrible.

I still think 3D Realms should've used that new Build engine for Duke Nukem Forever from the get go.

>> No.5734071

>>5734027
Maybe Blum, but Levellord hates it now, and you'd have to offer him a lot of money.

>> No.5734078

>>5734019
In the game console, anon

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>> No.5734082

>>5734071
Levellords a fucking tired old boomer. He made that russian map and it's full of these weird references. In Duke it would be pop culture references, parodies, comedic shit. In Ep5 it's literally references to bakeries and parks and shops that he lived near when he was in Russia. The fucking old boomer. He just wants to put his feet up and nap by the fire. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

>> No.5734085

>>5734078
... isn't that the game console?
I launched the game and pressed \ to open it

>> No.5734091

>>5734080
>no horsedick

wtf zan

>> No.5734139

>>5733431
I saw Ranger at a home improvement store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “HUH?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “HUH? HUH? HUH?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle("HUHHUHHUH") as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen boxes of nails in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the boxes and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her "HUH,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by "HUH"-ing really loudly.

>> No.5734161

>>5734139
Why didn't he tell her to scan them individually or it would cause "Rune interference"?

>> No.5734163

>>5734080
Man, that dick is tucked in damn well.

>> No.5734167

>>5734080
IS THAT GAME ANY GOOD

>> No.5734187

>>5734161
infetterence*
i sweat the donning-kruger effect is real

>> No.5734206

>>5733665
always did something that doom didnt
a bunch of different old fps always tried to have some differences unlike most installments in the call of duty franchise

>> No.5734208

>>5733669
why does it have to be horse in the first place?
closet zoophilia?

>> No.5734219

mapping for quake has made me realize just how much space a dog needs to move around

>> No.5734257
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>>5734167
I played the first episode and I enjoyed it.
Some parts are really good,the weapons are satisfying and the enviroments are comfy and beautiful.
But it goes hard on the backtracking and puzzles,not Hexen-tier but it can be frustrating.

The enemy roster is good too,same for the soundtrack,it uses a bunch of Unreal Tournament unused tracks(the creator got the permission from the composer).

Plus the protagonist is absolute waifu material
>Image somewhat related

>> No.5734264

>>5734015
I think this map could be cool, but I just can't see shit. What gamma are you using? Or am I supposed to walk through PITCH BLACK segments?
Also, I'm on laptop right now without mouse, so I can't say anything about actual combat.

>> No.5734280

>>5734028
what map is that?

>> No.5734289

>>5734280
Map 30 from Doom 2.
It becomes like this with Guncaster Vindicated and Brutal Doom

>> No.5734304

>>5734264
There are some pitch black sections, I had very dramatic lighting in mind. I just hope the ones that weren't supposed to be completely dark can be navigated properly.

>> No.5734313

>>5734304
remember to send it to the email too

>> No.5734323 [DELETED] 
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5734323

Hey guys. There's one idiot from 2ch/v/doom trying to argue that Doom was never a funny colourful arcade game as we all know and was actually a dark horror like Doom 3 which according to him was not a spin-off but a natural development of the franchise in the direction of horror as well as PSXDoom/D64. As part of arguing he posted this screenshot stating that he added some "CRT filter" to it which he claims is the way Doom is meant to play with, because "LCD monitors and default GZDoom settings broke the original dark style and turned the game into some mario colourful bright shit".

This schizo is also a dumb hater of mods (Brutal Doom) and Nu-Doom games and says that the franchise went on a wrong direction because of "crappy mods". He praises Doom 3 though.

How to deal with such schizo? I really doubt that Doom actually looked that dark on CRT monitors in 90s and and this he is probably telling bullshit. Can somebody who really played Doom 2 in 90s on CRT analyze this screenshot?

>> No.5734324

>>5734002
fascinating

>> No.5734330

>>5734323
I don't think you know what a schizo is, and you're just parroting words you've seen on 4chan.

>> No.5734334

>>5734330
>2ch

Even worse.

>> No.5734350

>>5734323
I can agree with him in some points. In fact I remember the game being scary in CRT with all that gore and satanist shit.

>> No.5734351
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5734351

Well, my map's not gonna be done.

>> No.5734353

>>5733665
Heretic is alright
Still have to play Hexen

>> No.5734354

>>5734323
He's right. I had same looking Doom 2 back in 95. It was too dark. However on the second episode I discovered F11 and managed to make it brighter, but now I regret that I was playing it wrong way for my first time and lost the original artistic style.

>>5734323
>This schizo is also a dumb hater of mods (Brutal Doom)
Based.

>> No.5734356

>>5734351
if you give up Im going to go to your house and squeeze your balls like in that Stephen King book where the bad guy crushed a tennis ball in his other hand to prove a point

>> No.5734358

>>5733665
Heretic is boring. I tried to appreciate Hexen's hub-centered design but it also ended up being boring.

>> No.5734362

>>5734356
>give up
Listen, I'm not one of those skeez-heads over at func_ who shit out seventeen maps a month. I physically can not work fast enough.

>> No.5734363

>>5733985
Give Doom 64 GEC Master Edition a try. The whole game in GZDOOM, underrated

>> No.5734364

>>5734358
Level design in Heretic is awesome.

>> No.5734368

>>5734313
I'll have to tweak some stuff before I officially submit it, that's why I asked people to play it to test it.
How many hours are left before the cutoff? I'm not very good at timezones.

>> No.5734374

>>5734362
did you vote in the poll

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>>5732968
Was id aware that the name of the deity Shub Niggurath could easily be misconstrued as the N slur? Or was it one of those things they didn't think of and just lifted from Lovecraft's mythos?

And before you say it, yes I'm fully aware what HPL's cat was named.

>> No.5734381
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5734381

>No Duke game since Forever
>Only a 20th anniversary edition of the best game of the franchise by Randy Bitchford
>Even Duke voice actor wants him to comeback
>No plans whatsoever
>TFW Duke Nukem Forever will be 10 years old in 2 years.

>> No.5734383

>>5734381
I'm surprised 3D Realms didn't get Jon to do something more similar to the Duke voice for Ion Maiden.

>> No.5734389

>>5734383
They may have pulled a DUSK on us again, who knows.

>> No.5734390

>>5734383
Maybe a reference or a cameo but I don't think Gearbox would allow it.

>> No.5734393

>>5734381
Not only that, but Randy is holding old builds of DNF hostage until a "deal" with 2K is worked out regarding their release

>> No.5734394

>>5734389
He's already confirmed to be the voice of the bad guy. He was the not-Hamill Joker from the trailer.
>>5734390
Can they really copyright a voice?

>> No.5734397

>>5734374
Yes, I was the first person to vote in the poll.

>> No.5734398

>>5734394
Randy is a bitch,he would do that.

>> No.5734404
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5734404

What things does a retro-inspired shooter have to nail to not come-off as a modern knock-off?

I ask /vr/ since you'd be the ones to know the answer, if anyone. What makes certain attempts feel more genuine, like they actually came from that era (sans the tech limitations)?

>> No.5734414

Doesn't playing Doom 64 with a mouse trivialize the challenge? It was designed with a controller in mind. Are the source port versions different? What about playing the N64 version with a dual joystick config, would that make it too easy?

>> No.5734416

>>5734376
Not everyone is a dumbfuck american who can't think of anything else than race. Hell, I have never before made the connection until I saw this very OP.
And since you weren't probably alive back then: In the 90s people were much less racist than today, on all sides.

>> No.5734424

>>5734304
Well, do I just have to walk straight through the dark sections with nothing inbetween or will there be surprises I won't see coming? Because that's not fun at all. The zombie that you could at least see as silhouette was borderline, but still ok.
Also, if it's too dark it might completely drown out architecture, which might not be intended.

Although I have a part in my map that is almost absolutely pitch black and the idea is that you use the muzzle flash of your gun to see shit. But that part is optional, I wouldn't put that in a regular route.

>> No.5734430

>>5733878
Not Kinsie but might as well >>5733373

>> No.5734440

>>5734416
Anon why do you assume I'm a dumbfuck, an american, or born post-90's

You're only right about the first one

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>>5734364
>you were saying?

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5734452

anyone know some good mapsets where the music doesn't matter that much?

I feel guilty when I play something else while running though wads like Ancient Aliens because then I miss out on the custom soundtrack

>> No.5734459

So using a "skip" texture makes a brush unpassable? I dont have that face texture in my wad though? I have trigger and clip but no skip

>> No.5734464

>>5734459
Yeah, I got it from another place.

>> No.5734487

>>5734443
E5M6 and M7 are some of my favorite levels in Shadow of the Serpent Riders.

>> No.5734489

>>5734414
Its not very easy. Honestly being able to run in the PC conversions is what really changes the gameplay

>> No.5734493

>>5733665
Heretic is arguably better than Doom

>> No.5734495

>>5734489
you can run in the original

>> No.5734496

Half Life, without a single iota of doubt within my brilliant mind, is quite possibly, nay, is without question the greatest piece of interactive media to ever exist within our realm.

>> No.5734501

>>5734381
>>Even Duke voice actor wants him to comeback
What do you mean "even"? It was probably the best-paying gig he ever had. Obviously the dude best known for voicing Duke Nukem would want there to be more Duke games.

>> No.5734502

>>5734496
Half-Based and MIT pilled

>> No.5734503

>>5734080
Hedon is kinda weird because it makes it as if whether or not one can make a game/mod just to include one or two of their fetishes and finding ways to justify said game's existence, as in, there being more to it.
And sometimes i imagine myself in a similar scenario with whatever dumb shit i come up with.
>>5734002
To be fair, HDoom doesn't seem that finished either and HDoomguy seems to have had another one or two projects that are either dead or just paused at the moment.
Then again a lot of modders are like this and what matters is the variety and depth in your track record.

>> No.5734521
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>>5734503
Zan(the creator) never hided his kinks but the game does a competent job to never put too much of it,in this case it's pretty vanilla.
It's not like other games made by devs who mainly focused on that,like those you find on Steam.
Hell,games like Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament have some of the devs kinks shoved here and there.


About Hdoom,yeah it's long gone but he clearly puts tons of effort into his projects,most of the sprites are original or heavily edited.

At least he has a better track record than Sgt. Mark who also had lots of dead projects that other modders picked up.
In fact,outside of Extermination Day,BD and BD 64,he has nothing,which is kinda pitiful,even for the guy who made an extremely popular mod.
He said that was the last version(I doubt it) and wants to focus on other projects.

>> No.5734539

HOW THE FUCK DO I USE QUAKE INJECTOR!?! WHERE THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO PUT IT!?! IT DOESN'T FUCKING WOOOOOORRRRRRK!!!

>> No.5734540

>>5734539
>configuration
>set up your shit
voila

>> No.5734541

>>5734539
Dont. Its shit. Just download the maps and put them in ID1 --> maps

For mods put the entire mod to the root of your quake folder.

>> No.5734542

>>5734521
>games like Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament have some of the devs kinks shoved here and there
pls elaborate. for research.

>> No.5734543

>>5734493
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH no.

>> No.5734547

>>5734541
I've been trying to play Ter Shibboleth but when I put it in the map folder and type "shib1" in the console it does fucking nothing.

>> No.5734551

>>5734543
Sorry to burst your bubble but Doom past episode 1 isn't anything amazing. E3 in particular is really weak as a whole. Heretic is great all the way through.

>> No.5734552

>>5734551
Wrong

>> No.5734554

>>5734547
you have to put "map shib1". Map [mapname] to load maps

You entering map?

>> No.5734558

>>5734547
try following the instructions

>> No.5734559

>>5734554
I'll try that.

>> No.5734567
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>>5734542
>Amazon for Hunter
>Robophilia for Angel
>Amputee for Slash(her taunt is also an orgasm)
>BBW for Lucy
>Vore for one of the first maps
>Latex for Mynx

And that's for Quake 3,kinda works for UT too

>> No.5734570

>>5734567
>Amputee for Slash(her taunt is also an orgasm)
s-source me up pls

>> No.5734572

>>5734554
>>5734558
Nevermind, had to use Dark Places instead of Quakespasm.

>> No.5734573

>>5734567
>Vore for one of the first maps
Don't forget Sorlag.

>> No.5734578

>>5734572
I am amazed by your consistent ability to fuck literally everything up.

>> No.5734579

>>5734572
ok now you are just trolling me

>> No.5734584
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>> No.5734585

>>5734578
>>5734579
Don't be mean :'(

>> No.5734586

>>5734578
Not him but I downloaded it to see what the issue was. The maps are kinda awkward to setup. You have to change some parameters around and shit with an autoexec

>> No.5734591

>>5734578
Scientists baffled

>> No.5734596
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>>5734570
In Quake 3 she clearly has a cyborg arm,given her design that's problably the case.

>>5734573
I think she falls more on the scalie territory,for obvious reasons.
I guess you're talking about that one Doomslayer animation where he punches the hell out of her.

>>5734584
They all look nice,makes me wonder if they will add the Eternal armour in the future.

>> No.5734597

>>5734586
Do you dress yourself in the morning, or does your handler do it for you?
>make mod folder
>plunk map files and assorted files in
>run quakespasm
>game shib
QS's latest versions should automatically use sv_protocol 999; if not,
>sv_protocol 999
>map shib1
WOW
SO AWKWARD

>> No.5734607

>>5734597
People new to these things that havent EVER done it before might find that difficult to do.

>> No.5734613

>>5734607
Those are the same things you'll do with any manually installed Quake mod. You make one folder and type two lines. Jesus fucking wept, if you can't do that, you're honestly not cut out for playing these games, as presumptuous as it sounds, because it means you can't follow simple READMEs or maybe you're typing with one finger and your sad, wilted penis instead of your hands.

>> No.5734621

>>5734596
>I guess you're talking about that one Doomslayer animation where he punches the hell out of her.
I meant her chat/text lines about eating people, present in Q3A and doubled down on in QC.

>> No.5734625

>>5733431
Huh?

>> No.5734626

>>5734613
Someone people dont know how to make an autoexec, or a bat file. He simply asked for help. Dunno why youre getting so aggressive about it to be honest.

>> No.5734631
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>>5734625
HUUH

>> No.5734637

>>5734503
>>5734521
hdoomguy busy living on patreon bux and not doing anything, don't expect him to ever release anything now that hes riding the patreon train
>last hdoom version almost 2 years old

>> No.5734638

>>5733001
There's a really good reason not to help others when it comes to modding and mapping: no matter how much you help, it'll still be worse than what's already been put out. Also a good reason to not mod or map at all.

>> No.5734640
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>>5732968
Alright! Here's my take on retro First Person Shooters and music groups, allowing for not just rock, but also rap, jazz, pop, techno, and Classical.

>DOOM1 and 2
Slayer
>Wolf 3D
U2
>Chex Quest
Bach
>Quake1
Nine Inch Nails
>Quake2
Rage against the Machine
>Q3A
RunDMC
>Duke 3D
Megadeth
>Blood
Type O negative
>NAM
Fallout boy
>WW2GI
Luciano Pavoratti
>Shadow Warrior
SMAP
>Redneck Rampage and RR rides again
ZZtop
>Dark Forces 1 and 2
John Williams
>Psycho Circus
KISS
>Hexen 1 and 2
Flogging Molly
>Heretic
Jethro Tull
>Unreal 1998
Metallica
>Unreal Tournament 1999
DeadMau5
>Alien Trilogy
Anthrax
>Alien Resurrection
Behemoth
>Witchraven 1 and 2
Beethoven
>TekWar
Randy Newman
>Extreme Paintbrawl
Insane Clown Posse
>Shadow Warrior 2
Shaq(Yes he was a rapper for some time)
>Thief 1 and 2
Korn
>Half-Life 1
Jerry Goldsmith
>Marathon
Dokken
>Breathless
Pantera
>Behind the Iron Gate
Anvil
>Genetic species
Daft Punk
>SS1
Skrillex
>SS2
Nirvana
>Terminator: Future Shock
Tool

>> No.5734645

>>5733120
>my old fucking gameplay mod for skulltag with like 50 versions is on there and i havent seen it uploaded anywhere else
the good old days, theres some rare shit on here.

>> No.5734646

>>5734638
sounds like a great excuse to never improve at anything
you cant make good stuff without making a bunch of shit first

>> No.5734649

>>5734626
The infographic in the OP mentions autoexec, as does two seconds in your local search engine of choice. There's no batch file necessary. I refuse to believe any of this isn't you bullshitting us because there's no logical way Darkplaces solved the problem that Quakespasm didn't as both require the same fucking folder setup and commands.

>> No.5734651

>>5734646
But why post that shit? If it's not good, why bother?

>> No.5734654

>>5734023
Prove it.

>> No.5734658

>>5734552
You are clearly in denial. Sad.

>> No.5734659

>>5734646
the problem is no one wants to play the shit stuff and they'll hold it to the standards set by 20-year veterans and literal professionals who only make good stuff, then shit-talk you behind your back because you dared to release something that wasn't a 150,000 brush, 3-hours of gameplay, bsp2 requiring extravagant piece of crumbling bricks and PC Gamer full-page spreads

>> No.5734662

>>5734637
He actually doesn't get that much on his patreon,he's simply really inconsistent and slow with his work.

>> No.5734663

>>5734597
You know, you don't ALWAYS have to be a fucking asshole anon.

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>>5734640
>Blood
>not Death

Anon pls

>> No.5734667

>>5734597
>>5734613
Fuck off back to /a/. retard.

>> No.5734670
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>>5734651
>>5734659
you do it anyways
even if its shit, even if people dont want to play it, some require more experience before they get good, but you dont get anywhere by giving up

its not rocket science

>> No.5734672

>>5734659
Has this actually happened or are you just imagining they'd do that due to your insecurity

>> No.5734674

>>5734663
I don't, but unfortunately it tends to be the only way to get through to people. Not that it matters, they'll probably play for ten minutes and ragequit anyway because the super shotgun doesn't instagib everything.

>> No.5734676

>>5734597
kys autist

>> No.5734679

>>5734662
>its dropped to under 800
he used to get almost 2 grand a month at its peak, but hes still getting quite a bit for doing nothing

>> No.5734680

>>5734670
If people don't want to play it, it didn't have to be made.

>> No.5734692

>>5734680
>imp encounter didn't have to be made
get out zoomer

>> No.5734696

>>5734680
wrong

>> No.5734701
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>>5734680

>> No.5734704 [DELETED] 

>>5734679
Well,he makes pixel art and that takes skill.
He just doesn't work on mods as much he used to.

I'm surprised that Marisa Kirisame and Pillowblaster don't get more,their work is far more impressive.

>> No.5734708

>>5734704
did you forget your trip marisa

>> No.5734712

>>5734704
I think marisa is talented but really obnoxious and condescending most of the time, and it shows when people don't really praise them as much as other creators when they do make better stuff.

>> No.5734715

>>5734708
XDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.5734724

>>5734704
Has this Marisa person made any original sprites or mods? Ive only seen levels by them. Which is nice and all, but it's different.

>> No.5734727

>>5734712
Doom Tournament is really good,Abort is funny and has some neat ideas.
I've seen other modders making equally impressive and don't have a patreon.

Pillow has 3 mods(with the help of a team) and all about being OP,I wonder if he could do something in terms of mapping.

>> No.5734730 [DELETED] 

>>5734724
lots of stuff, but i always see him post in other mods threads being super negative and saying he could do better, or comparing it to his mods, meanwhile ignoring criticisms on his own mods, and this is coming from someone who doesn't even have a zdoom forums account.

>> No.5734734

jut curious why are mentions of this particular modder keep getting scrubbed
we dont do that for Kinsie, Kegan or Term, they all post here (not so sure about Kinsie)

>> No.5734736

>>5734734
probably because you deleted it on your own and now you're trying to start shit

>> No.5734737

>>5734734
leftover drama from before zandronum died probably, a ton of shit went down because of certain people being shitty and they will bring it to these threads if posts arent scrubbed.

>> No.5734742
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Do anyone here have more hud animations of Ranger? Fan made and cut?

>> No.5734745

>>5734664
blood's retail release came with a type o negative song

>> No.5734750
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>>5734745
So I guess he would be more of Peter Steele then

>>5734664
Love the fact they're all dressed like cultists,it fits.

>> No.5734757
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5734757

Got back playing Quake 3.Better re-download all those skins like Caleb and Duke etc.

>> No.5734762

Just finished the first 3 episodes of Doom for the first time. Is Thy Flesh Consumed any good? I went through the first level and the amount of teleporting shit was off the charts

>> No.5734767

>>5734762
first two levels are ballbusters
it mellows out a bit in the later levels

>> No.5734769

>>5734762
first 2 levels are a kick in the nuts but the rest is fine, you should play doom 2 first since tfc was made after doom 2

>> No.5734770

>>5734762
Its alright. Only the first two levels are ballbusters.

>> No.5734771

>>5734762
the first level of TFC is the hardest. Its good. PLay it.

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>>5734742
made this a while ago
>>5734757
If you want more, someone posted this link here about a year or so ago.
http://en.ws.q3df.org/models/
It's really the only place I've found for skins/models of Quake 3. Or for any Quake, for that matter. Q1 and 2 just lead me to archive.org and a bunch of dead links.

>> No.5734778

>>5734774
Thanks anon! I've completely forgot about that website

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>>5734774
http://en.ws.q3df.org/model/cdemon_maiden/

>> No.5734812

http://www.rigelatin.net/q3a/quotes/

>> No.5734823

>>5734812
>"He cried, you know. Said he didn't want to die. Then he did."

>> No.5734824
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>>5734812
>http://www.rigelatin.net/q3a/quotes/bitterman.php
>Bitterman, Level End
>"The South will rise again!"

>> No.5734830

I have no idea how to tie my shitty fucking rooms together just to finish this shitty map. FUCK YOU MAP ANON telling us to do this im wasting hours of my life

>> No.5734838

>>5734824
South Stroggos of course.

>> No.5734839
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>>5734830
YOU SOUND LIKE A QUITTER
I DIDN'T RAISE A FUCKING QUITTER
NOW GET BACK TO IT YOUNG MAN

>> No.5734840
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>> No.5734842

>>5734443
>>5734487
Now I want to replay Heretic, I remember the maps were crazy and full of chaos. The weapons I never liked that much, but monsters were freaky specially that head thing that shoots tornadoes and throws you up in the air.

>> No.5734851

>>5734443
Literally the only bad thing is that they reused the same final boss boss for E4 and E5 but then again Doom reused the spiderdemon for E4M8.

>> No.5734854

>>5734824
IIRC Bitterman and Patriot share the same model,maybe they accidentally mixed up the quotes.

>> No.5734858

>>5732968
Is there something wrong with the cultist damage output in blood GDX?
I don't remember them killing me so quickly when I played blood on DOS box

>> No.5734864

>>5734854
nah, patriot and razor are the model pair

>> No.5734865

>>5734858
>he hasn't memorized every single enemy location in the game to avoid damage
That's how you play Blood.

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>>5734824
>crash vs bitterman

>> No.5734869

>>5734812
>"Dooooooooooommmmmmmmm!"

>> No.5734876

>>5734680
Creating is more rewarding than playing.

>> No.5734887 [SPOILER] 
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>>5734869

>> No.5734890

Heretic > Doom 1

>> No.5734894

>>5734858
The original executable had a bug that would invert the difficulty setting's damage modifier when you loaded a save, so if you played on Well Done it would change to Pink on the Inside. All the ports fix that.

>> No.5734898

>>5734812
I forgot how much characterization they tried to shove into every character they could, even the reskins. I knew Patriot was obviously patriotic, but I didn't know he was also a MGS-esque cyber vampire.

>> No.5734907

>>5734812
I NEED A HUNTER WIFE
PLEASE GOD

>> No.5734918
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>>5734404
Don't make everything 90 degree walls and then say it's inspired by Doom and Heretic, these games had walls at many angles, their actual limitation was not rendering room over room sectors. If you want to make a shooter like that, fine, but don't say it's like Doom. Optionally, you could take some pages from Rise Of The Triad, which did 90 degree walls, but played around a lot with height.

Don't make sprites shit-ass stick figures with single shade colors, that will just make shit look like an Atari 2600 sprite except someone forgot they were generally only one color. Nobody drew characters as stick figures for shooters back then, nobody who made an actual good game at any rate. This isn't to say you can't have some kind of stylized look to your game, but pic related just doesn't look fucking good.
You will have to actually draw sprites with some detail on them, optionally pre-render 3D models, or digitize physical models or live actors, you'll likely have to edit these in post.

Don't make sprites and textures around 16x16 pixels, even Wolfenstein 3D was doing 128x128 textures for its walls in 1993.

Don't make it generate levels procedurally, this is an enormously unsuitable mechanic for a first person shooter, it will make everything feel lifeless and stale. You will have to sit down and actually make levels for your game, which means you will have to take a look at and get some ideas about level design theory, like how to do level progression, how to craft encounters, and making your level so that it's not difficult for the player to orient in.

>> No.5734940

>>5734894
That explains why I sometimes sucked so much in the DOS version just to play extremely well shortly afterwards

>> No.5734942

>>5734868
nigger

>> No.5734943

the icon of sin but the face is that girl from the exorcist and the sounds are replaced with screamers
the room is also kind of dark but the face is highlighted

>> No.5734961

so many wads to play
and I cannot choose

you know I wish we had something like the random steam game generator but with quality Doom wads

>> No.5734984
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5734984

Have you hugged your Doomgal today?

>> No.5735031

>>5734984
No you stupid bitch

>> No.5735037

>>5735031
Whoa, that's uncalled for.

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>>5735037

>> No.5735048
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Well I just listened to what I think were the majority of albums that inspired Doom's soundtrack

>Alice in Chains-Dirt/Facelift
>Slayer-south of Heaven
kinda liked these, but I found myself liking more the tracks that have direct parallels to Doom

>Soundgarden-Motorfinger
the first track was incredible, but the rest didn't stick with me

>stone temple pilots-core
I kinda liked it

>Pantera-Vulgar dispaly of power
again, I found myself liking the tracks that have direct correlation to Doom

>SOD
eh, didnt click with me

>Black Sabbath-dehumanizer
solid all around but I didnt find myself being uber hyped

Conclusion: I liked the ones I'm more familiar with thorough sheer osmosis

>> No.5735072
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5735072

Blackbird > any Q3 hoe

>> No.5735083

>>5735072
Why did she turn out evil in the bad route again?

>> No.5735104

>>5735048
There was some music inspiration behind TNTs tracks as well.
https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Doom_TNT_music
Some of it is pretty good. Some of it was far better as .midi

>>5735083
I think they honestly just made something up for the bad ending.

>> No.5735116

>>5735104
Also, I really don't hear the similarities at all in some of these.

>> No.5735132

>>5735104
>fandom

>> No.5735135

>Stylish Hell, Ralsei+Susie and Lt. Typhon
Comfy going through vanilla D2 with this setup.
Also hilarious watching Susie chuck Ralsei at an archvile replacement and get the final killshot onto her.

I think Eviternity will be next on the list after running through Chex and Heretic with Stylish

>> No.5735140

Enemy placement is a real bitch. Hard to not have the enemies all over the place by the time you get to a room. I want enemies to be in place until your in a certain spot but by the time you get there the whole squad of fuckers is running around like mad.

Trying to slap a map together makes me appreciate the original maps more. I've went back and played a few and you can see the talent that went into them.

>> No.5735142

>>5735132
I know, but the other one isn't as extensive in its examples on the music articles.

>> No.5735154

Why has noone been able to outdo Doom? I've played Quake, Duke, Blood, Shadow Warrior, Unreal, all of the heavy hitters and still none of them are as fun to me as Doom.

>> No.5735162

Could someone take the resources from the Quake expansions and put them into a normal map, or is that "illegal?"

>> No.5735165

>>5735162
people cram stuff into quake maps from other sources all the time
as long as you're not asking money for it and give credit where it's due, no one gives a shit

>> No.5735174

>>5735162
Yeah, you can basically just do that.

>> No.5735192

>>5735165
>>5735174
Alright, thanks. I looked up how to do so because I thought I could spice up my HUH entry, but it seems like if I do so then every other mapper would have to have the same files or something like that. Maybe another time.

>> No.5735208

>>5735192
I think you can actually stick added textures into just your map file and that should be fine.

>> No.5735216

>>5735208
The new textures are nice, but I was thinking entities. I had this wack idea about adding centroids, seekers, fumigators etc. because techbase only really has 3 enemies for variety.

>> No.5735227

>>5735216
Oh, you mean like that. Yeah, that might be more involved.

You're limited by texture set for monsters?

>> No.5735229

>>5735227
Yeah, I put in a little cave area with some ogres and whatnot, but it's just one area. The rest is a base with Grunts, Enforcers, and Dogs.

>> No.5735231
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What musical groups do you think would fit for the respective expansion packs for the games I listed in >>5734640? Those that have expansion packs, of course.

>> No.5735249

>>5733057

Blood's problem is that the levels have a ton of, as they say, conceptual grandness, and are very impressive for the Build engine. However. the rest of the game doesn't match the quality of Episode 1 and 2's levels. The enemies are either a pain to deal with (the cultists at some points and the Evil Dead hands) or a bore (everything else). The weapons aren't as punchy as people say they are. Explosions turn enemies into generic gib fountains instead of actually tearing them into pieces like you'd expect. I'd fall in love with the game if enemies and weapons were replaced with Duke 3D's or even Shadow Warrior's.

The cultists can be fun, but their presence can slow the game down to SOFII-levels of speed, which isn't really appropriate considering how the game is set up.

>> No.5735254

>>5734984
I really like Hunter's Boots!

>> No.5735263

>>5735254
One of the things I'm definitely happy they changed from Bisley's original unrelated art/character is the footwear. All the best scifi and fantasy babes have big stompy boots.

>> No.5735285

So, I'm trying to play Blood 2. But although I fixed the resolution, it has a serious framerate problem. I've tried out many things, but it still remains under 20fps. Can someone help me out?

>> No.5735289

>>5735249
>I'd fall in love with the game if enemies and weapons were replaced with Duke 3D's or even Shadow Warrior's.
Enemies I kind of agree with, but weapons? Hell fucking no. Blood's arsenal is one of its best assets. Out of every classic FPS I would say it actually has the best, and most fun to use weapons. Duke's shotgun is fucking GARBAGE compared to Blood's shotgun.

>> No.5735306

>>5735229
>>5735227
I have never understood why id and mappers to this day felt constrained to keep tech enemies in techbases and fantasy enemies in castles. The whole plot revolves around teleportation, so it would be perfectly logical for some of the monsters to travel to our dimension and vice-versa.

>> No.5735332

Is there a decent list of Doom original total conversions? Stuff that turns it into a game based on a different franchise, or at least something distinct from the original setting. I like playing Doom but I want to shoot something other than demons for a change.

>> No.5735338

>>5735285
Are you using any patches?

>> No.5735357

>>5735338
How do I check which version I'm running?

>> No.5735369

>>5735357
Don't think there's any version counter in the game itself. Did you install any official patches, look up the basic PCGamingWiki stuff, or are you trying to run an install fresh off the disc?

>> No.5735385

>>5735369
I've installed the gog version. There's a readme file that mentions version 2.1, which seems to be the latest, but I'm unsure if it's already installed or if there's a patch somewhere I'm not seeing. The PCgamingwiki mentions dgvoodoo as "just install it and put the necessary files on your game folder and it'll just werk", but I did that, and it actually made the game run WORSE.

>> No.5735393

>>5735385
>>5735285
Your computer is trying to tell you not to play Blood 2.

>> No.5735431

>>5735285
That kinda just sounds like Blood 2.

>> No.5735447

>>5734381
randy will probably be going to jail soon if that makes you feel better.

>> No.5735578

>>5735285
>So, I'm trying to play Blood 2.
please don't do that.

>> No.5735579

>>5735285
Anon, we care about you, please don't do this!

>> No.5735583

>>5734621
>doubled down on in QC.
QC has all but borderline made Sorlag a vore meme on legs and thrown an SSBW at them.

>> No.5735587

Where could one find the old sound libraries that Doom used? In an extra-legal manner of course, I assume they still cost hundreds of dollars.

>> No.5735590

>>5735583
>and thrown an SSBW at them.
There are no fat ladies in Q:C, Lucy was never added.

>> No.5735591

>>5735587
Probably on torrent sites.
Tell me if you find them.

>> No.5735597

>>5735583
the irony is that it would increase player retension
/vg/ even has a macro regarding it.

>> No.5735608

>>5735590
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Sorlag has fat and vore memes as of quake champions at virtually every corner and they're practically inseperable. You can't even go to /arena/ and mention Sorlag without them bursting into memes.

>> No.5735619

>>5735608
But Sorlag isn't fat. She's fucking shredded, actually. There isn't even any great art of her fat. If there was I'd masturbate more than I already do.

>> No.5735642 [SPOILER] 
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>>5735619
[spoilers]you didn't look hard enough, most of the sorgie meme is a 4chan thing[/spoiler]
Tell that to /arena/'s sorgie-posters.

>> No.5735648

>>5735642
[spoilers]There's also this infamous belter: https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/421288714/[/spoilers]
polite sage for offtopic

>> No.5735649

>>5735642
>didn't look hard enough
There's one good image drawn by a nameless artbro, three just-okay edits from existing images from /trash/, and three mediocre images recently uploaded to FA. Don't you tell me I'm not looking hard enough.

>> No.5735656

>>5735642
>>5735648
ctrl+s my friend

>> No.5735667

>>5735656
kill me

>> No.5735671

>>5735649
Beggars can't be choosers.
Now stop it before we invite forces left unchecked.
there's nothing wrong with a level themed inside of something. vidya has done it for ages

>> No.5735674
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>>5735667
you will find no peace in this land

>> No.5735685

>>5735674
help

>> No.5735730

Which is better Hereric or Hexen?

>> No.5735745

>>5735674
That's a lot of Quad Damage.

>>5735730
I want to say Heretic.

>> No.5735748
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>>5733373
still working on the map beautifier thing, stopped posting for a while due to OS troubles

i tried putting in fans today

>> No.5735753
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>>5735748
oops wrong picture

>> No.5735759

Why do people like Duke over Shadow Warrior?

>> No.5735771

>>5735759
Why do people like Shadow Warrior over Duke?
People like both, some like one more than the other. Some don't like either, we call those people fags.

>> No.5735775

>>5735771
>Why do people like Shadow Warrior over Duke?
Because its better

>> No.5735785

>>5735730
the one you like more

>> No.5735789

You can say anything from Randy and Duke World Tour, but Golden Carnage (the San Francisco, Golden Gate level) is probably the best level ever made for the Build engine. It was so elegant and cool.

>> No.5735801

>>5734708
What

>> No.5735803

>>5735332
The doom wikis have TC sections, also moddb has a "total conversion" tag.
also Google-fu +doom "total conversion"
etc...

>> No.5735814

>>5735759
Better level design and unique themes or centerpiece architecture for every map outside of lunar apocalypse. It's one of the main reasons why DNF failed because the levels didn't feel unique from one another and just sort of blended together.

>> No.5735889

>>5735685
no

>> No.5735908

>>5735083
Because it wasn't really her.

>> No.5735910

>>5735889
screaming
i dont wanna be a fuwwy uwu

>> No.5735967
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5735967

>Id Software still wants to push Quake Champions
>They're picking the most random characters
>Almost none of them are interesting
>They could make a new Lovecraftian SP Quake but they won't

It's been said countless times but the Quake 1 setting has so much potential and it's absolutely wasted on a multiplayer shooter whose tone is still unclear.
Doom Eternal seems to be ironically the closest thing to a SP Quake so far but I still want a new one damn it.

Maybe a game based on one of the characters who are not Ranger, like Visor, Crash or Sorlag.

>> No.5736019
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>>5734918
This is my biggest problem with DUSK, the games graphics look like ass. Sure, you could say they're 'stylized', but an aesthetic can still look bad. Quake 1 had far, FAR better models/textures than DUSK, and it came out over 20 years ago...

For 20 bucks, its almost a slap in the face.

>> No.5736026

>>5736019
In the dev's defense it's one guy and Quake was backed by some really good artists.

>> No.5736034
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>>5736026
Well that one guy shouldn't be charging 20 dollars for a game he made himself then. If he wasn't willing to spend money on art assets, why should I be willing to spend money on his game?


It's no excuse when the game is way overpriced. should be 10 bucks, and thats being generous.

>> No.5736035
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>>5736019
20 bucks is fine.

>> No.5736039
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>>5736035
No its not. Quake and Doom are 5 bucks USD, and always go on sale.

Dusk really doesn't do anything different compared to said games, besides its movement and setting. Why should I pay triple the money?

Amid evil though, that deserves its price.

>> No.5736047

>>5736039
This seems all like a matter of personal opinion then, because I don't think Amid Evil is worth it.

>> No.5736048

>a
>fucking
>wojakposter

>> No.5736050

>>5736039
>assets
>Stephan Weyte
>Andrew Hulshult

>> No.5736051

>>5736047
Whys that?

>> No.5736053

>>5736051
Too visually busy, and something about the combat puts me off, I can't put my finger on it but it seems so floaty.
I haven't gotten a chance to play it myself properly yet, but I'm not keen on spending the price of admission to see for myself.

>> No.5736054

>>5736051
the weapons feel like shit and while it's pretty it definitely isn't fun

>> No.5736057

>>5736053
>>5736054
oof
nice bait

>> No.5736067

Dusk's biggest budget expenditure and focus effort was marketing. The game itself is like some random amateur could have done back in the early 2000's alone.

>hurr durr that's the point

If only it was released for free as it should. I ain't paying for that shit.

>> No.5736086

>>5734085
Ingame options menu. 'Go to console' after that.

>> No.5736095

Final HUH stretch. How do I add one of the vanilla tracks to my map? When I put "track08" in worldspawn's sounds, nothing happens.

>> No.5736118

>>5736095
it's just 08

>> No.5736119
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5736119

What exactly makes it not okay to discuss Ion Fury here on /vr/?

People discuss modern mods for Doom, and a trillion other vr titles. How is Ion Maiden any different? It's running on eduke32, sure it's all original assets but it's still retro.

Am I wrong?

>> No.5736120

>>5736119
Because it's not out yet.

>> No.5736127

>>5734823
>"You let them die. That’s why I hate you."

>> No.5736128

>>5734769
TFC happens before DOOM 2

>> No.5736131

>>5736128
Who cares, should he also play Sigil after TFC just because it "happens" before Doom 2? The """plot""" is a joke and is only an excuse to get you to kill demons. Did you watch the Star Wars prequels before the original trilogy because they "happen before" too?

>> No.5736141

>>5736131
4th episode is still a part of DOOM 1, so he should complete it before moving on to DOOM 2.

>> No.5736147

>>5736141
ackchually it's a part of THE ULTIMATE DOOM, an edition that came out later than DOOM 1 itself

he should play whatever he feels like

>> No.5736149

>>5736147
>he should play whatever he feels like
yeah, so then this conversation is pointless, i fully agree with the statement above.

>> No.5736154

>>5733102
Why is the caco in this image smol

>> No.5736170

>>5736154
It’s cute.

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>>5734631
Fuck, that's a good Ranger.

I made a whole unit using Capitol Airborne Ranger models from Prince August. It's a very close match but not quite right.

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>>5736174
>>5734631
Found DOOK on their FB page

>> No.5736194

>>5736178
that chin and general demeanor reminds me of metal slug
I'd pay some real money for a duke game with the metal slug aesthetic

>> No.5736201

>>5736194
Duke Nukem 2 is the closest thing to it.
Same for Manhattan Project.

>> No.5736209

In Trenchbroom, how would I make an elevator that only goes up all the way once but goes back down if the player falls off along the way?

>> No.5736236

>>5736019
DUSK is chunky like Quake but doesn't really look like Quake. That said, I can't see why you think the art direction itself is bad.

The art direction is incredible. There's a lot of memorable locations. Into the Thresher's abyss tribute.

>> No.5736238

>>5736209
Make a trigger brush at the foot of it that brings it back down?

>> No.5736241

>>5736053
>>5736057
I kind of feel the same way.

I don't like all the Unreal engine faff, and even though all the YouTubers praise the combat, I don't find it that impactful.

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>>5736194
?????

>> No.5736245

>>5736067
Did you mean "Strafe"?

>> No.5736247

How do all these old FPS look at 120fps? Might be getting a 120hz monitor soon.

>> No.5736249

>>5736242
Wow, Randy let them use Duke Nukem?

>> No.5736265

>>5736119
>Ion Fury
Goddammit, if I ever see a limo of an Iron Maiden member, I'm fucking keying it. Bunch of rich old fart wankers.

>> No.5736273

>>5736265
Assuming they're even aware of it.

They've not made any public statements have they?

>> No.5736276

>>5736242
Where is Commander Cunny?

>> No.5736278

You get to unlock a fully voiced Duke Nukem in Ion Fury.
This is a lie

>> No.5736303

>>5736265
>>5736273
The company representing the band did that. Which proves once more that copyright laws in terms of music are bullshit.

Ironically Iron Maiden said several times they're fine with piracy.

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>> No.5736372
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>>5734015
Okay, I managed to finish it. What a ride. I really like your style, it reminds me of Turok/Turok 2. The graves in the caves and the boiler room were pretty cool. The statue was awesome, how long did it take you?

As before, it was way too dark for me in many, many parts. You can't see where you're supposed to be going, you can't see enemies, zombies are more annoying than anything else and I FUCKING HATE ZOMBIE SEWERS, I already hated them in the id levels, seriously, fuck that shit.

You might consider putting clip textures onto the stairs, because it's often janky moving around them. Especially in the beginning, during the descent - why actually should I do that at all instead of just jumping down? It's not like the Nailgun is good enough to warrant dealing with the death knights. That said, apprehending death knights with only a shotgun is mean. Consider maybe making the descending stairs larger.

The shambler didn't have any health packs lying around, I only won it by cheesing through the stairs and playing peekaboo. And fighting a shambler with just grenades, buckshot and a handful of regular nails is not fun, remember they are resistant to explosives.

I didn't find a single secret and couldn't figure out for the love of me how to get the yellow armor and superhealth in the room before the shambler. Jumping didn't work and shooting anything didn't work either. And what was the bottom of the pit in the round room for? There wasn't anything but a teleporter bringing me back.

This was a lot of nitpicking now, but I really, really liked your detailing and the verticality and seeing stuff I could visit later and such. Put some more health and fine tune a bit and I will love it.

>> No.5736374

So I've completed blood on well done, and post mortem on well done too. What now? I'm eager for more content, but I'm a little wary of cryptic passage. If Civvie can romp through it, it won't really present a challenge for me.

I'm using nblood and would prefer to keep using that port, or if need be, swap to another new port

>> No.5736383

>>5736374
If you want more content just play Cryptic Passage, what's wrong with you

>> No.5736389

>>5736372
Holy shit that's a long map.
Mine Is Coffee Quake tier in comparison.

>> No.5736402

what are the limits of all the tricksy shit you can do with the GZDoom engine to add more verticality to a map?

I remember it supported this weird sector over sector thing with dummy sectors, and portals to simulate room over room, but I would like to know some good examples of it

>> No.5736409

>>5736374
Go for Cryptic Passage,It's the weakest of the bunch but not bad at all.
It's just pretty unbalanced with its difficulty.
Sometimes it's too easy and other times is relentless.

If you want even more,then play Deathwish,it has cutscenes,original ost and great level design. It's the real Blood 2.

>> No.5736437
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>7 votes in favor of the extension
>5 against
>1 undecided

THE HUH DEADLINE HAS BEEN EXTENDED
ONE LAST TIME
JULY 21 FOLKS

Make the most of it, and don't get too big with the scope of your map, cut corners if necessary.
And I'm looking forward to playing all your maps.

>> No.5736460

>>5734376

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzo6geKTtQo&t=1080s

>> No.5736462
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>>5736372
Thanks for trying it out. I've started on Monday, though I put a lot of my free time into it, I'm guessing around 25-30 hours, the statue was maybe 10-20 minutes. I've also upgraded the map since that post, mainly with better lighting. I've emailed the final version to the project email, I've also uploaded it here:
> https://files.catbox.moe/15l3mr.zip
As for your crits, I've intended the pillars in the shambler's arena to be the cover for player; I don't think it makes the fight much more fun than peeking the corner, but then I think it's hard to make a good shambler fight. It's the same deal with archviles, for the same reasons.
The yellow armor one is both the most basic and worst secret idea I had; you're supposed to grenade jump up there. That's why there is a megahealth there too.
The secret in the pit might be equally awful now that I think of it. One of the walls there is non-solid.
Other secrets are a more classic deal. In the newest version there is something even better than that statue in one of the secrets.
Pic related is my attempt at "speedrunning" it.

>> No.5736463

>>5734376
H.P. Lovecraft wrote poem on Creation of Nigger and was racist.

>> No.5736465

>>5734015
I played your map, and recorded a demo - shame it's 115 mb.

Thoughts -

Too many rockets
Too many knights (ez)
Got to silver key door before I found silver key, took about 5 minutes to find it after that
Got gold key, forgot where the gold key door was, took about 5 minutes to backtrack and find it
Great level aesthetics, just felt very sparsely populated
route to the silver key not intuitive
easy to forgot about the gold door

i played on medium, gonna give it a go on skill 2

>> No.5736468

>>5734376
reminder his father was the one who actually named the cat
he kept the name because he thought it was cruel to force a new one on an old cat

>> No.5736470

>>5736468
Can you tell me what he meant by "nautical-looking negro"?

>> No.5736471

>>5736462
the grenade jump bit was fun. took me a second or two to figure it out (thought it might lower with the gold key)

>> No.5736472
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>>5736236
No the game just looks like shit most of the time. Crap textures, and awful models. I meant that Quake was superior Technically speaking, as well as art direction wise. Quakes models look far, FAR better than DUSK's.


The art direction is really not 'incredible', its directionless and not at all cohesive. The music isn't too bad, though it doesn't really feel connected to the game much. Just metal music for the sake of MUH RETRO FPS.


Dusk has so much potential to be good, but just fails at a lot.

>> No.5736473

>>5736470
a scuba brotha

>> No.5736479

>>5734015
This is fucking crazy. It's huge. So many unique rooms and so much detail. I love it. I laughed hysterically playing through it thinking about my first map I've made is like 3 small empty rooms not connected to each other and this is one giant sprawling interconnected legit map. Good job.

The red dot twinkling Walls, dunno how you did that but it's pretty. And the shambler room was aesthetic as heck and the vore room and boiler room was all mechanical kino. Also there's a little village thing with accompanying statues. I attempted a spiral staircase and was like "nope" after 5 minutes and you have a great one. Also the huge lift with the wooden beams and all. Good shit anon

>> No.5736483
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>>5735967
I don't understand why they decided to put Eisen in the game, you know the red-headed guy? Yeah, you probably forgot he even existed.

Seriously though, why the fuck? He's such a bland looking character, and looks completely out of place.

Why would they waste time adding him at all? Why not add some more fan favorites to get people hyped? Whoever is running the dev team must be fucking retarded.

>> No.5736484

>>5736372
You use and time a grenade to rocket jump up a little extra height. Any damage you take is offset by the mega health and armor.

>> No.5736505

It's the Blood 2 fag >>5735285
here. After 10 hours of researching and fixing shit, I FINALLY got it to run at high framerate, without stutters. Thanks for nothing, everyone, from now on, I refuse to believe that you even play games, you're all just shitposters.

>> No.5736510

>>5736479
>>5736465
Thanks. There's a newer version of the map, I've posted it here: >>5736462 (not sure if you've played that one). It was supposed to be the final version, though I'm still getting constructive feedback and the deadline's been extended so I might improve it.
Oh, and the red dots on walls are just the texture author doing a hack job. Some colors in Quake's palette are always fullbright, and someone didn't account for that.

>> No.5736512

>Drink in Ion Maiden (fuck you that's what it's called) is "Cock"
>She doesn't have a voice line saying "mmm... I love cock" or "I love the taste of cock"

Why? Pussies.

>> No.5736513

>>5736505
/vr/ is fucking terrible for any kind of troubleshooting or mod recommendations (that aren't big names like Arcane Dimensions). I come here to see if a random map might have dropped and/or to rage about a map's shitty design which I unironically expect to be doing when H.U.H releases to put the final nail in the coffin that /vr/ have dogshit tastes. I already played some anon's slaughter-shit map and if that's the quality that is getting in then my expectations are low

>> No.5736517

>>5736513
>This guy's first map ever was shit lmao
Gee, what wonderful critique. I'm sure everyone can't wait for your full HUH review. It's gonna be full of first timer maps.

>> No.5736535

>>5736039
>Quake and Doom are 5 bucks USD, and always go on sale.
They're 20+ year old games.

>> No.5736542

>>5736535
yes, and?

>> No.5736547

>>5736517
>general that is specifically devoted to retro FPS, their mods, and maps made for them, anon releases a terrible map
>"it's his first time guys!"
>>5734015 actually made a decent map that at least seems play tested. The map I'm referring to was not

>> No.5736558

>>5736547
Funny, he said already two people had playtested it. I didn't like it, too, because I am not a fan of slaughtermaps, but remember where you are and if you don't like being civil, fuck right off to /v/.

>> No.5736570

>>5736558
So you admit it was shit? All I needed to know

>> No.5736572
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>>5736513
>>5736547
>>5736570
cant learn to cook without fucking up from time to time when you start out
same with mapping or any other thing that requires any amount of effort
even if you put out something bad you need keep at it, that is how you develop a skill

>> No.5736579

>>5736572
Yeah, as long as you don't give up, you're good.

>> No.5736582

>>5736558
Which parts are slaughter-y? I tried not to make giant square rooms filled with same monsters, I guess I made some by accident.

>> No.5736586
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Here's a first draft of my map.
https://files.catbox.moe/s1xd2s.zip

>> No.5736591

>>5736582
I don't know who you are, I thought we were talking about the dude who made a slaughtermap. You start in a church and from there on it's getting serious, Sam.

>> No.5736592
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>>5736483
The turret gimmick is cool but the character is bland, he looks like a Rage 2 reject.
Why not give it to a veteran? Like Major/Daemia or Sarge.

About the Strogg, why not Kane from Quake 4? Or Bitterman?

There are so many characters to choose from. All this feels like a waste

>> No.5736593

>>5736472
go play Quake then

>> No.5736594

>>5736591
Oh, sorry. I posted mine in this thread, the one with the underground city of sorts.

>> No.5736602

>>5736547
>you HAVE to be great when you start doing something new, or else you're shit
lol

>> No.5736607

>>5736594
Well, I liked that one. I am >>5736372.
Still find it too dark in a lot of spots though.

>> No.5736614
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5736614

Is Heretic really not great or I don't get something about it? Barely made myself to complete first episode, and that's using Wayfarer's Tome because default weapons suck. Still, on paper combat is similar to Doom 1 with all straight fireball throwing folks, and I love D1's gameplay, but in Heretic it feels unengaging at all. Maybe lack of hitscan enemies is the reason for that, dunno.

>> No.5736623

>>5736437
Bless your soul, anon. I won't let you down.

>>5736513
You can frig right off, though.

>> No.5736640

>>5736586
Alright, overall I like it.

Right at the start, the fire thingies are still kinda dark, maybe put some light there.

Consider moving the platforms closer together, as I was falling down a few times when trying to jump, because they are pretty far away and then you just barely hit the edge.

At the first beam with the health and such, consider making those wider, as on my way to the health I got stuck, probably because the player box hit the diagonal beam because the walking one wasn't wide enough.

I really liked the floating platform thingy, that looked insanely cool.

The demon at the lightning gun is stuck, they need lots of space for some reason. Lightning gun itself is borderline useless because it eats ammo like you mom eats twinkies and just the initial 20 or 30 or what aren't nearly enough to do anything of importance in the end fight (which I liked, despite it being a huge FUCK YOU).

I had more, but I accidentally deleted my already finished post.

And something to everyone having lots of stairs and such: PLEASE use Clip or make the stairs lowe, because getting stuck all the time is not fun at all.

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>>5734015
i bet you spent a while making this statue

>> No.5736680

>>5736640
Thanks for the feedback anon. Did you find all the secrets?

>Consider moving the platforms closer together, as I was falling down a few times when trying to jump, because they are pretty far away and then you just barely hit the edge
Yeah, I'm probably gonna do that. I think the issue is mostly the height so I'm just gonna add another platform.

>as on my way to the health I got stuck
There's a badly placed clip brush there I intended to stop the player from getting stuck under the grenade launcher platform. Pretty useless that one. But yeah, it's also possible to get stuck on the beams themselves.

>PLEASE use Clip or make the stairs lower
Definitely gonna do that. I wasn't planning on doing it to the curved staircases as that's a pain in the ass but now I have a week to do it.

>> No.5736681

>>5736614
Same for me, I did not find Heretic engaging at all. Maybe it did have amazing level design, but I played through the 3 original episodes on autopilot and uninstalled the wad right the fuck after. It just didn't grab me

>> No.5736694
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>>5736483
>I don't understand why they decided to put Eisen in the game, you know the red-headed guy? Yeah, you probably forgot he even existed.
Who?

>> No.5736698

>>5736694
the kraut engineer guy

>> No.5736703

>>5736698
Where he is supposed to be from?

>> No.5736707
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>>5736694

>> No.5736708

>>5736707
He looks like Postal Guy.

>> No.5736712

>>5736703
He's an OC.

>> No.5736715

>>5736703
ostensibly nowhere, he's an original the character for Q:C but the turret mechanic itself is a callback to multiple quake mods and spinoffs (team fortress and ET:quake wars)

>> No.5736716
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>> No.5736717

>>5736716
I still don't understand why they modeled his mouth so fucking wide. He looks like an orangutan, it's ridiculous.
>outfits are just "postal dde, gordon freeman, lazy cosplay doomguy, and marco from metal slug"

>> No.5736718

>have finished map
>have already submitted it
>now there's still a week left

>> No.5736720
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>>5736718
>haven't finished map
>can now finish map and maybe even make it better

>> No.5736723

>>5736716
Dangerous Dave?

>> No.5736727

>>5736708
Dude. Postal Dude.

>> No.5736728

>>5736716
He looks so sad lol

>> No.5736734

>>5736728
robot fucking shits killed his azn wife

>> No.5736754

>>5736716
Wait, is the thrird outfit supposed to be the QWTF engineer?

>> No.5736756

>>5736718
make another one

>> No.5736761

>>5736754
Nah, no overalls. If anything that's a somewhat-reference to the Quake Wars engineer.

>> No.5736765

>>5734376
>N slur
kill yourself nigger

>> No.5736775

>>5736602
Food analogy:
>make me a PB&J sandwich
>WTF there's mayo on it
>"i-it's my first time"
>you spend your free time on an Indonesian Basket Weaving forum discussion various sandwiches and ways to make them even listing off greats and yet fucked this up. Fucking how?

>> No.5736781
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>>5736174
Thanks for letting me know about Prince August. In return, here's a link to a Russian company that does some nice Doomguy/Gordon Freeman minis.
https://klukvaminiatures.com/
Also, where the hell is that Cyberdemon from? Is it custom? It's massive.

>> No.5736791
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5736791

Which one do you prefer between Arcane Dimensions for Quake and Deathwish for Blood?

>> No.5736805

>>5736791
I dislike sprites after playing all classic FPS so AD.

>> No.5736808

>>5736657
A couple of minutes. Me being a drawfag probably made it faster than it otherwise would be.
>>5736607
Making it dark in some places was a conscious decision, I love dramaric lighting with a lot of contrast. Maybe I failed at the 'contrast' part though. I was also banking on water being fullbright in Quakespasm - it's the same for other engines, right?

>> No.5736809

>>5736775
>Food analogy
No

>> No.5736821

>>5736791
I dislike Quake in general so DW.

>> No.5736823

>>5736131
What year was Doom

>> No.5736828
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5736828

Trying to make a space station kinda thing, but I am having problems with the skybox. Is there any way to make it not appear fucky when angled?
This here is just brushes covering the windows, but I had it with a box enclosing the whole thing at first, but it looked the same.

>> No.5736832

>5736823
Release dates:
Doom - 93
Doom II - 94
Ultimate Doom (includes TFC) - 95

>> No.5736835
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>>5736828
Well fuck, wrong picture.

>> No.5736837

>>5736823
didn't mean to fuck it up, this one is for you >>5736823

>> No.5736843

>>5736067
Feel free to show the class all those games from the 2000s made by random amateurs with an equal amount of content & quality.

>> No.5736850

>>5736837
No problem. I actually mean what year "in the game". I always assumed it happened in the far future, like in the year 3000 or something.

>> No.5736856

>>5736791
Death Wish. AD has too many annoying custom enemies.

>> No.5736858

>>5736835
No, that's how the sky texture works. What you're seeing is the 'rollover point' where the upper and lower patterns meet and where the distortion is heaviest.

>> No.5736861

>>5736858
Well fuck, so much for that.

>> No.5736883

I just gave up with the HUH thing. Now I'll just remake the leve but using progs_dump because fuck vanilla Quake tools, you useless and clunky piece of shit

>> No.5736885

>>5736119
We discuss it in this thread all the time though

>> No.5736892

>>5736034
Theres nothing that says your game HAS to look good you fucking autist. The game plays well and for some people thats the main thing that matters.

>> No.5736897

>>5736883
If you're not concerned about polycounts, subtract and join coupled with convex merge are a quick qnd dirty method of making more complex shapes. I used these for HUH because of time constraints.

>> No.5736903

>>5736897
No, I meant how limited and propense to fuck up are triggers and entities in general.

>> No.5736906

>>5736903
You can actually do way more with vanilla entities than it first appears. What issue are you having?

>> No.5736912

>>5736513
>>5736547
>>5736775
Kill yourself.

>> No.5736925

>>5736850
21st century, I believe.

>> No.5736927

>>5736835
Is it going to be a Warhammer 40K style fortress in space? Quake's textures are very well suited for that.
Also, which wad has this tasty starry sky?

>> No.5736940

>>5736775
making sandwiches and making maps for games are different fucking things

>> No.5736953

>>5736927
Nah, I was trying to go more for a "overrun by monsters" space station thing à la Alien(s). The idea is you can actually see parts of the station through the windows. The sky is from the Q.wad.

>> No.5736954

>>5736906
For some reason triggers doesn't work (probably because I use multiple targets with the same name and also they have a killtarget) and I can't figure out how to fix them. Also I want a func_train which doesn't go to X path_corner until I push some trigger but it isn't possible in vanilla Quake unless you use some weird hack.
I also attached ogres to some doors so they only open when they are dead, but the behavior is weird: sometimes a door opens but for an unknown reason sometimes all the doors open at once.
Fuck that.

>> No.5736960

>>5736954
For your first problem, try using relays. I noticed that when I have a trigger_once and let it target several targets at once, it won't necessarily work until I let it target only relays and let THOSE target the targets.
Also, even I have already found out that target + killtarget on one entity won't work.

tl;dr: If in doubt, use moar relays.

>> No.5737007

>>5736791
DW is more charming and fun for me

>> No.5737009

>>5736850
https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Doom_Timeline

According to this, the game started happening in 2022 so it's two years for doom.

>> No.5737113

>>5736592
probably the same reason why the fanservice feels like someone just browsed some wikis for short periods of time
it's from only a portion of id software
if you look at doomguy's visor in the eternal battlemode trailer, it looks more fitting compared to the face he got in qc

>> No.5737114

>>5736614
a lot of heretic enemies seem to be just messing with numbers where some are just stat changes, compared to doom 2 (besides maybe some hitscanners, baron/imp/hk's and specter/pinkies) except for bosses which seem to be where the effort went
weapon feedback might be a reason too since it's magic guns

>> No.5737145

>>5736805
>>5736821
>>5736856
>>5737007
I guess Deathwish is better then

>> No.5737151
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Am I stuck here?

>> No.5737152

What is the conversion for Doom units to rl units? 32u = 1m? That looks a bit too short for me, though, but 64 is too much. I want to make a car and I want it to look at least approximately right.

>> No.5737163

>>5735649

>three
hol up.
there is two

>> No.5737181

>>5736835
this might help you
https://twitter.com/ItEndsWithTens/status/1047248380068548610

>> No.5737189

>>5736835
>>5737181
If all he wants is a starry sky then he could just use a regular skybox, no need for a 3D skybox that's troublesome to implement.

>> No.5737196

>>5737181
this is the equivalent of drawing a big box around your map and putting a sky texture on it and will do similarly bad things to vis

>> No.5737203

How difficult is it to create a whole new weapon for a quake mod?
I know Arcane dimensions did it with the triple barrel shotgun and the plasma gun.

>> No.5737204

>>5737203
are you good with C?

>> No.5737230
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The skybox stuff is giving me headaches, so I am trying to implement blast doors/shutters. I am also not sure what exactly I want to do with this station because it's so tight and would rather be fit for some one-on-one horror stuff instead of monster onslaught.

>> No.5737258

>>5737196
Isn't that a real skybox that displays on the sky brushes? Like the ones you can make in (g)zdoom with skybox viewpoints?

>> No.5737263

>>5737230
I don't understand how the sky is confusing you. The sky is split in two halves horizontally. At each side of each half, a sky texture scrolls across in a spherical motion until it meets the horizon line at the opposite end.

>> No.5737269

>>5737263
Yes, I understand that. I am completely aware how it works, but I would like it to not work that way because it looks like shit like that. But apparently I can't do anything against it, so I will just lock it out, HAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.5737272

>>5737258
No, it's literally just normal geometry but scaled up massively so his map is now 40,000 units across.

>> No.5737280

>>5737272
No. If you actually look at it, it's only 576 units across, and does not tank performance.

>>5737230
you can try to do something with animated texture /moving meshes - look at how it was done in Quake 1.5 moving train level

>> No.5737287

>>5732971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omRyy5Z1ezM

>> No.5737290

>>5736542
Games often discount when old.
They were also megahits, and they can count on making cash from people just lining up to buy them because of their legacy and the word of mouth. Mind that Doom and Quake also retailed at much more than 5bux each when they were new.

20bux is perfectly reasonable for a new game IMO, especially given that you're often paying 60bux for a brand new AAA title (which may be mediocre as hell). If you're poor, just pirate it or wait for a sale, it's seriously not a lot of money.

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>>5737204
I know some C++

>> No.5737302

>>5737280
>If you actually look at it, it's only 576 units across, and does not tank performance.
You don't understand how both the Quake map format and how the map import part of ericw's tools work.

>> No.5737308

>>5737292
you'll be fine, then

>> No.5737316
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Why are Hell Tech Troopers so cool?

>> No.5737317
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SUNDAY

>> No.5737320

>>5734631
That Ranger model is excellent.

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>huh deadline extended again
Well I guess I can make another level now

>> No.5737335

>>5737328
that's the spirit

>> No.5737339

>>5737328
careful, if you make too many maps at once the quakedads will say you're not putting any effort in

>> No.5737345

looking forward to playing this quake map pack

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>There's a Blood korean comic book
>Technically

>> No.5737350

>>5737339
maybe you could make a map instead of making shit up

>> No.5737403

Is there a way to make a platform go up, stay up and then only get down again when I step on it? So, a lift basically? I don't want to fuck around with buttons n shiet.

>> No.5737420

>>5737403
you'll have to use trigger fields
lifts do the exact opposite- go down, stay down and go up again once you step on it

>> No.5737430

>>5737403
what engine

>> No.5737434

>>5737430
quakespasm

>> No.5737502

is there a "snap to vertex" in trenchbroom?

>> No.5737563

>>5736586
I love your use of verticality, it's really well done, and so are the two telegraphed secrets. The only nitpicks I have are the stuck fiend and the beams you can get stuck on, which the other anon already mentioned.

>> No.5737597

Finished Alien Bastards.
Was fun but i wished it wasn't that short.

>> No.5737602

>>5737317
where is this from?
looks nice

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>>5737602
Thing I'm doin. Meant to quote the screenshot saturday post. whoops.

>> No.5737607

is it possible to use doom wad textures assets for quake?
i remember someone posting a quake map with btsx textures

>> No.5737609

>>5737604
SUTANDO POWAA

>> No.5737620

>>5737609
I don't watch jojo. Only saw the first ep of the newish series.

>> No.5737621

>>5737604
>>5737609
Brb, stealing this for my jojo fancomic

>> No.5737642

Thank you for these threads. They've been inspiring.

>> No.5737680

Can anyone upload their half life caged folder to mega or something? I want to play it through xash3D but the version i found seems to be missing files and doesn't launch.
>install steam faggot
that would be simple, but i'm on a shitty fucking laptop that can't even launch it, also, i'm locked out of my steam account since it sends some 2 factor authentication shit to a dead hotmail address that i haven't used since 2005
>make a new account
you need half life to download the mod, my half life key from my old generations box is registered to the account i can't get in to

even if no one helps me i'm glad to get this shit off my chest, i fucking hate steam and i fucking hate what its done to pc gaming, monopolizing everything into their fucking launcher

>> No.5737681
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5737681

Is Outlaws any good?

>> No.5737715

>>5737681
I hear it's supposed to be fun, but the screenshots and ripped sprites I've seen I think look absolutely hideous and it puts me off.

>> No.5737718

What are there in the way of first person metroidvanias?

>> No.5737732

>>5737680
https://mega.nz/#!DrhkAKQL
here's the steam version folder if it helps.
key
9yiK58RzOlbtoASn1mI7Uz7aTPauwptmk66urqb56bg

>> No.5737757

speaking of Xash3D, does anyone know how to get Half-Nuked running properly? It works fine for the steam version, but Xash has issues. The pistol for example, doesn’t make any firing sounds nor eject any casings. I feel like it has something to do with the cl_dlls, but I’m not sure.

>> No.5737774

>>5737732
Wow I wasn't expecting someone to do this so fast, thanks dude. Will report back if it works.

>> No.5737784

>>5737718
Hedon feels like a Metroidvania.

>> No.5737787
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5737787

Which one do you think is better? Quake or Blood?

>> No.5737794

>>5737787
I find Blood more aesthetically pleasing but gameplay wise I vastly prefer Quake

wish the Build engine had the same modding community Doom has though

>> No.5737798

>>5737681
give it a shot

>> No.5737802

>>5737787
Why do you keep asking questions comparing the two?

>> No.5737835

>>5737774
After a motherfucking eternity of trying to copy this shit from my piece of shit computer to my piece of shit phone without it disconnecting half way through, it doesn't work, just launches regular half life. Gonna keep trying though.

>> No.5737840

>>5737715
>>5737681
The artstyle is indeed pretty crappy (outside of the cutscenes), but the gameplay is very solid.

>> No.5737863

>>5737835
Just needed to copy the caged_fgs folder and nothing else, now its working, thanks again.

>> No.5737882

Is Erik Alm one of the most influential mappers on the Doom scene?

>> No.5737919
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HUH extension until August 3rd

>> No.5737920

>>5737919
no

>> No.5737923

>>5737919
HEURGH

>> No.5737928

>>5737919
yes

>> No.5737931

>>5737919
only if everyone makes 2 maps

>> No.5737940
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>>5737919
THE NEVERENDING HUHRY

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5737949

>>5737919
hahahahahaha no
t. organizer fag

>> No.5737953

>>5737787
That's like comparing apples and oranges.
Two different games serving two vastly different purposes.

Quake is about a more medieval and otherworldly setting. It's a world changing event, the hero is almost unimportant.

Blood is about a horror fantasy taking place in about the 1920-30s. The hero is the main focus.

gameplay is very different too. Blood is more about using different kinds of attacks on certain enemies in a certain way. Quake's enemies (usually) dont have resistance or susceptibility to certain types of damage, so you can combo whatever weapons you want to kill enemies. Where Blood locks you into a pattern, Quake is more freeform, allowing you to fight in the way that you see fit.

Blood is also much slower than Quake. Quake has bunnyhopping and instant weapon switch, and it just rewards you for moving and attacking quickly. Blood makes you be patient.

Basically, why are you even comparing two games that do two completely different things?

>> No.5737970
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5737970

Playing this on my phone with an 8bitdo is a weird but entertaining experience, can't wait until I get back to my desktop in a couple months and can play it properly.

>> No.5738004

looking forward to playing all your maps, good night anons

>> No.5738017

>>5737949
Its been pushed back a week like what, 3 times now?
Wasn't its original intended end date july 1st?

>> No.5738018
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5738018

This video demonstrates how to take control of the most intense combat areas on Chasing Suns, the first Sunlust map.
Turn on subtitles, and I hope you enjoy the video.
https://youtu.be/_SdzN_yApdQ

>> No.5738021

>>5738017
technically twice but...yeah my handling of this thing leaves a lot to be desired
my fault for not making it a month long thing from the beginning

>> No.5738043

>HUH got extended by another week
>still have my half-finished first attempt lying around
Guess I'm making two maps.

>> No.5738049

>>5733340
No, it's the dumbshit from Roblox that for some odd reason people are nostalgic for (I never even heard of that shit till last year)

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5738058

>>5734640
So uhhh you got something against Judas Priest, which could practically fill many on this list?

>> No.5738135

>>5738018
Brazilian/portuguese anon that wanted us to "make a video reach John Romero"

why do you keep shilling your shit here, you said you'd stop

>> No.5738150

>those missile turrets in Ground Zero
what the fuck were they thinking

>> No.5738174

New thread.

>>5738172
>>5738172
>>5738172

While it was said to be the 21st in the thread, I'm using the HUH deadline that was in the pastebin (24th).

>> No.5738232

>>5738049
>>5733334
>>5733337
who the fuck cares lol

>> No.5738432

>>5737151
shoot the wall infront of you

>> No.5738697

>>5733334
I'm almost 30, but I'll use it because it makes people like you mad as fuck.

>> No.5739006

>>5737346
what is it and where do i get it

>> No.5739262

>>5736303
It's a trademark law issue, not a copyright law issue.

Also, guess who own and run the holding company?

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