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Anonymous Sun Jul 7 10:26:38 2019 No.5718945 [Reply] [Original]

Every game ever made can be categorized as an adventure game. Prove me wrong (you cant).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 10:29:10 2019 No.5718948 >>5718945 Not tetris

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 11:39:08 2019 No.5719046

>>5718945
only the ones where you control a creature or vehicle and that feature some sort of exploration.

basically you're right though. "adventure game" is a ridiculously vague concept that overlaps with almost every game genre. there isn't a single genre that doesn't have games with adventuring elements.

>>5718948
not the original, perhaps, but I swear there are at least a few clones with adventuring elements.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 11:53:05 2019 No.5719084 Galaga. Dig Dug.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 11:58:30 2019 No.5719092 >>5719084 >Galaga agreed >Dig Dug poor example. you crawl around in tunnels and fight monsters. additionally it has immersive and open ended gameplay. it's definitely has adventuring elements.

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 12:06:12 2019 No.5719105

>>5719092
That's an interesting way to put it I guess, I'd generally argue that single screen arcade games don't give that "sense of adventure" people think of. With Dig Dug, you aren't really going deeper into the planet, there is no end game or goal, just kill->die->repeat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 12:11:37 2019 No.5719110 >>5718945 SimCity is more of a toy.

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 12:54:36 2019 No.5719195

>>5718945
Aside from games like Tetris, Pong and SimCity, you're not wrong. OoT is an adventure game, RE3 is an adventure game, GoldenEye is an adventure game, Doom is an adventure game, SMW is an adventure game, StarFox is an adventure game, Super Metroid is an adventure game, Silent Hill is adventure game, MGS is an adventure game, Diablo 2 is an adventure game, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 14:26:29 2019 No.5719348 16 Shot! SHOOTING WATCH (DS).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 16:45:25 2019 No.5719634 >>5718945 puzzle games and sports games don't fit that description at all

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 16:51:10 2019 No.5719652 >>5719634 >on an adventure to solve the puzzle >on an adventure to win the match ???

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 16:51:57 2019 No.5719653 >>5718948 You're joining the pieces on an adventure down south

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 17:43:03 2019 No.5719768 >>5719653 no >>5719046 i'm right, you know it. tetris is not an adventure game.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 19:11:16 2019 No.5719970 >>5719848 A good adventure game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 01:06:41 2019 No.5720657 >>5718945 This... >>5719348 ...Since no one is taking it on. I guess this anon won. Dumb thread, by the way. Author needs to be executed. EX-E-CUTED.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 01:17:58 2019 No.5720683 >>5718945 what about pong

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 01:28:52 2019 No.5720697

>>5718945
If you approach the naming like a gamejourno retard that sticks the genres to things not because of their gameplay, but because "it kinda fits" (like calling any action game with melee "Hack'n'Slash").
then yes. You are a retard.
If you go by actual genre-defining criteria, then no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 01:35:59 2019 No.5720708 >>5719092 Dig dug and galaga are a framing device away from adventure. I recall playing one of the namco museum versions of Dig Dug, and between levels there's a map screen showing you exploring a continemt getting closer the monsters' hideout.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 04:32:57 2019 No.5720913 >>5718945 You're an underage summerfag so every stupid think you say is wrong. Prove me wrong (you cant).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 05:36:10 2019 No.5720990 >>5720913 I turn 31 in August and post all year lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 07:53:42 2019 No.5721139 >>5720990 >im the worstest generation and shitpost all year lol You sure showed em

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 08:10:59 2019 No.5721157 >>5719092 >it's definitely has adventuring elements. "adventuring elements" does not make something an Adventure Game. Also learn to type you fucking ingrate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 11:54:03 2019 No.5721423 >>5721139 Yeah gottem bro

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 12:22:50 2019 No.5721461 >>5721139 >worstest generation Oh really? So what generation are you then? Full zoomer or legit boomer? Get good kid

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 12:51:38 2019 No.5721490 >>5719634 >puzzle games ironic because puzzles are usually the focus of games in the actual "Adventure Game" genre which people who aren't idiot autists know how to recognize.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 12:52:14 2019 No.5721491 >>5718948 you didn't realize that you build the rocket that is launched in the end? that's an adventure

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:15:14 2019 No.5721769 >>5719634 Resident Evil is an adventure/puzzle hybrid

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 18:21:22 2019 No.5722258 >>5721491 That's not even good bait.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 18:27:54 2019 No.5722274 >>5721461 I'm from the same generation as your dad. Maybe grandfather, based on your inability to git gud at disguising your underageness

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 18:47:05 2019 No.5722319 >>5722274 Lol sure kid

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 22:51:46 2019 No.5722768 >>5722319 >no u >kid lol indeed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:23:42 2019 No.5722820 It's interesting how the term 'adventure game' came to refer to a certain kind of text/graphical game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:43:04 2019 No.5722845 >>5718945 this post reeks of /v/ >>>/v/

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:58:36 2019 No.5722859

>>5722820
Most of the names that got attached to genres are either vague or nonsensical. "Fighting game" and "beat em up" could be swapped and work just as well. "Platformer" is similarly vague and Tetris isn't really a puzzle. All that matters is people get the style of game that the arbitrary name refers to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 01:52:02 2019 No.5723068 >>5718945 You are a complete fucking fool OP.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 06:08:34 2019 No.5723314
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Why is every fucking thread derailing in zoomer/boomer /v/-tier shitflinging? Please tell me this will end again when it gets colder outside... Starting to get unbearable.
Seriously look through other threads, it always has the same flow

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 06:32:37 2019 No.5723332 File: 16 KB, 328x450, Boshi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5723314 We're basically getting overrun by /v/ because /v/ is becoming completely unusable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 06:45:10 2019 No.5723348 File: 1.82 MB, 300x300, giphy (1).gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5723332 So there is no saving /vr/? Where can we run to? There is no /vr2/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 07:14:12 2019 No.5723371 >>5723314 >Please tell me this will end again when it gets colder outside.. It was like this well before summer 2019

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 07:19:20 2019 No.5723373 >>5723348 Would /vr2/ at least play music videos?

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:02:34 2019 No.5723497
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>>5718945
All games are actually simulations.
All games, no matter the genre, are simulating an experience for the player. Games only work because players have agency.

The first text adventure games were literally word parsers where you had to guess the correct combination of words to advance. What people forgot is that alone doesn't make a game. The 'game' part comes from fucking around with different combinations, PLAYING and experimenting and trying out all the different wrong answers and being told "not my type" when you try to use the "pick up" command on a human or abruptly ending the game when you type "kick bucket". This is what made adventure games fun, the digital equivalent of arguing with the storyteller. It's why janky games with obtuse mechanics are so highly regarded, because the fun comes not from playing the game but from playing to break the game.

game designers need to take more from /tg/ and less from /lit/. Not that storytelling or visuals or music aren't important, but none of it matters if you can't make the game your own. Tabletop players hate more than anything else a bad GM, and the most common trait of bad GMs is railroading. What was the last game people enjoyed that was railroaded?
Sid Meier said that a game is "a series of interesting choices", but that can probably be simplified to just "choices". You can fuck up, fine, but you need to be given the chance to fuck up. A lot of video gamers are young kids/bitter old men who aren't going to take kindly to being told what to do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:07:36 2019 No.5723504 >>5721769 resident evil is an adventure game, period. you're saying it in an ironic shitposty way, but it really is a textbook adventure game, in every sense of the word. also this >>5722820

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 09:34:31 2019 No.5723553 >>5723497 No. Some games are simulating something else, others aren't. Tetris isn't simulating an experience, it is an experience. >>5723504 Yes Survival Horror really just means it's an Adventure Game trying to be scary.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 07:12:00 2019 No.5725987 File: 844 KB, 689x693, 1557692160844.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5723371 The massive infiltration started a year ago, /vr/'s PH-level just dipped into critical territory

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 08:45:08 2019 No.5726108 >>5718945 >I'm being obtuse on purpose and pretending not to understand the basic human concept of categorization

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 09:22:33 2019 No.5726149

>>5723553
>Some games are simulating something else, others aren't. Tetris isn't simulating an experience, it is an experience.
Correct.
>>5723497
>All games are actually simulations.
incorrect

Not to be an asshole about semantics but it's is a useful distinction to know even casually. Even when you aren't talking about simulators as a genre, some games are much more like a simulation than others. Basically you're being just as obtuse as the OP even if you mean well.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 09:46:36 2019 No.5726178
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If we're going on the idea of what an adventure game is, a game were you collect items to unlock progress with an inventory just like a point'n'click "adventure" then that's easy.

Super Mario Bros.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 10:55:08 2019 No.5726263 >>5718945 Jeff minters psychedelia

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 11:14:35 2019 No.5726285 >>5718945 Chess?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 12:44:07 2019 No.5726413 >>5723332 >overrun >10 posts in the last 10 minutes according to the catalogue Although I agree, fuck zoomers

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