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Which version is better, PSX or X68000?

>> No.5715960
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5715960

Nobody owns (or has seen) an x68k and the emulator is notoriously hard to setup, so the PSX remaster is only reasonable option.

>> No.5715967

>>5715940
I played the x86k version on emulator and it was decent enough. The PSX version apparently changed simon's sprite to make him look like a girly man, so that kind of rules it out for me.

>> No.5715969

>>5715967
no there is original mode, and arranged mode. original doesnt change simon arranged makes him look like the bdsm goof

>> No.5715971

>>5715940
>Castlevania Chronicles

I really like the Arrange Mode. It's very balanced and fun and the music is dope.

Little known fact: the US version cut out some audio. The little dolls on stage six actually talk in Japanese. That's why I fucking hate these old localizations, always fucking cutting and censoring content.

>> No.5715972

>>5715940
The inconsistency of Simon's design in all media he's in bothers me. Me personally I see him as blonde. He looks retarded as hell with red hair. Its just not him no way.

>> No.5715978

>>5715972
yeah I pictured him with brown hair cause hes french or at least his surname is. maybe if his name was seamus o'boyle

>> No.5715985
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5715985

>>5715967

You have both versions available on Playstation.

I kinda prefer the updated sprite though, it's more vibrant. The old one is a bit drab and boring.

>> No.5715989

>>5715978
I don't mind the brown hair but only because that would also suit him well and I always assumed it was just sprite limitations that he would have brown hair. Like how Mario in SMB3 has black overall. Its just that red hair and feminine look is what bothers me. I mean really Konami you're giving us this many designs of Simon? I think Nintendo got it pretty right with his Smash look. Looks more a less like how he does in the games.

>> No.5715992
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5715992

>>5715985

I cant decide which Dracula is better. The updated one is cool, but I like the classic look of the sprite.

>> No.5715996

>>5715940

PSX version has both the updated game and the old X68000 version

>> No.5716028

>>5715960
Truly the most stupid awnser

>> No.5716042
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5716042

>>5715992
I'd have to go with the arrange sprite, I've just always preferred Kojima's Dracula designs to the Bella Lugosi look, and Chronicles design is my favorite. It's a design that screams bloodsucking, aristocratic, medieval demon lord.

>> No.5716073

>>5715960
X68000 is easy to emulate.

>> No.5716090

>>5716073
Yeah maybe if you're a geek and super into it. Some people just want to press "play" and play the fucking game.

>> No.5716095
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5716095

>>5715940
The X68000 version lets you see the full screen, whereas the PSX version obscures 15-20% of the screen with the HUD. The X68000 version also has working versions of the Stage 5 clock and Stage 7 seasonal painting, and the hitboxes are reportedly better as well.

>> No.5716101

>>5715992
The Arranged sprite is amazing, even hinting at Dracula's phase two transformation/the Curse of Man enemy with each attack. Also, unlike the original sprite, it actually fits within the teleportation beam.

>> No.5716114

>>5715960
Hey here is a build of winx6k or whatever the fuck that works pretty good, just for this game. I know bc i made it lmao. If some anons want it please sound off, i will post it.

I havent played the psx one, but the OG jap thing is pretty weird and cool. The music is very weird, only similar to Turbografx CD - i would bet the psx version emulates that fairly perfectly?

Aside from that the Windows/Dos style cutscenes are interesting and cool visually

>> No.5716227

>>5716090
boohoo

>> No.5716269

>>5715992
I prefer the subtlety of the original sprite

>> No.5716414

>>5716095

I knew about the clock, but this is the first time I hear about the painting. I love details like that!

>> No.5716779 [DELETED] 

PSX version of OG mode is inferior because it's missing the time-specific features and runs in a cropped display window.

Also don't listen to the retards ITT, the best X68000 emulator only takes a few clicks to get the game up and running fine.

>> No.5717225

>>5716073
No it isn't.

>> No.5717239

>>5716414
the psx has the clock and painting thing as well. you have to enter a button code at the titlescreen to unlock the "extra option" menu which has an option to let you enter the date and time which then enables the clock and painting feature. annoying, but its there.

>> No.5717240

>>5716779
It would take more than a few clicks to get the game running to the level I would want to play it at. I want native resolution, perfect smooth scrolling without tearing, low input lag, and clean audio.

>> No.5717253 [DELETED] 

>>5717239
Konami should've ported the game to Saturn as well, since that has an internal battery-powered clock like the X68K.

>> No.5717262

>>5717253
yea

>> No.5717304

>>5715960
>the emulator is notoriously hard to setup
lol

>> No.5717309

>>5715940
The PS1 port contains the original music and graphics and all versions of the soundtrack, so how can it be inferior in any way whatever?

>> No.5717313

>>5716114
>i would bet the psx version emulates that fairly perfectly
The PS1 version has four versions of the soundtrack: three types x68k sound cards and a completely new rendition which is fucking great.

>> No.5717316

>>5717240
You wouldn't get that on the real hardware, so why expect it from an emulation of all things?

>> No.5717404

>>5715960
>an x68k and the emulator is notoriously hard to setup
maybe 10 years ago...

>> No.5717537

>>5717309
See >>5716095

PS1 is a gimped port that fucks everything up.

>> No.5717539 [DELETED] 

Always play the game on the hardware it was originally developed for.

NO EXCEPTIONS.

>> No.5718005

>>5717316
>native resolution
Yes, I would
>perfect smooth scrolling without tearing
I don't know, never played a real X68k but if it had it I want it. It should have it since it is very similar to the CPS1.
>low input lag
This is as little -additional- input lag over what the original hardware would have.
>clean audio
To the best of my knowledge the X68k had excellent clear audio.

>> No.5718031

>>5716090
That's literally all you have to do.

>>5717225
Yes, it is.

>> No.5718041

>>5718031
If all you want to do is play like a pleb without proper set-up of >>5717240

>> No.5718049

>>5715960
>>5715960
>>5715960

Fuck off with your major nerd bullshit.

A. None of that shits hard to find.
B. Its easy to emulate.
3. Shut up

>> No.5718052
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5718052

>>5716090
>>5716090
>>5716090

>some kind of geek on /vr/

Go back to /v/ bra

>> No.5718062 [DELETED] 

>>5718041
Why don't you try emulating it then and report back to us whether or not it lives up to your oh so high standards?

>> No.5718160
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5718160

>>5716095
Best post in the thread.

>> No.5718184

>>5718062
The last time I did this was a few years ago and at that time the best X68k emulator did not support sync-to-refresh (but beetle psx does) and required some contortions and tricks to get to display in native resolution. It wasn't as simple as picking a resolution from a drop-down box.

>> No.5718456
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>>5715960
hmm.....

>> No.5718510

>>5715967
always some fucking retard with this shite, look at the menu you dumb cunt you were playing arrange mode.

>> No.5718545

>>5715985
The new sprite really does make him look like a clumsy transvestite. That design was Kojima at her worst.

>> No.5718570
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5718570

>>5718545
It reminds me of this redesign.

>> No.5718631

>>5718570
Gayer than Final Fantasy

>> No.5719196

>>5718456
must be nice to be rich (or live in Japan)

>> No.5719201
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>>5719196
why not both?

>> No.5719203

>>5719201
do you work at a Hard Off by any chance?

>> No.5719279
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5719279

>>5719203
i spend my paychecks there lol

>> No.5719303

>>5719279
living the dream

>> No.5719410

>>5718545
>>5718570
Thankfully, Konami has since dropped the redesigns and gone back to Simon's original appearance.

>> No.5721318

>>5715940
Here's the more important question: How is the MSX Castlevania game?

>> No.5721535 [DELETED] 

>>5721318
Looking for keys is kind of a slog, but otherwise it looks and plays fine and has decent level design for a Tansakuvania.

>> No.5721837

>>5721318
It doesn't have scrolling, so you explore room by room. It's very different from the NES game.

>> No.5721850 [DELETED] 

>>5721837
Have you played the ROM hack that ports the NES levels into the MSX game yet?

>> No.5721881

>>5721850
No, how does it work? Certain segments on CV work with the scrolling in mind, like corridors with medusas.

>> No.5722259

>>5719201
SuperDeadite

>> No.5722272

>>5715967
New sprite is better. Changes in mechanics and soundtrack are bad though. It's impressive that they were able to take a bad soundtrack and make one that's about 10 times worse.

>> No.5722286

>>5719196
>sees something worth a few thousand dollars
>RICH!

>> No.5722723

>>5722272
What were the changes in mechanics anyway? Also, X68000 had some great songs.

>> No.5722783

>>5719201
So that's what an X68k monitor looks like, huh? Looks like a generic 600 TVL Color Video Monitor. Very easily replicated.

>> No.5722828

>>5715940
the ps1 version because it includes both

>> No.5722849

>>5722828
you mean it includes a shitty remake plus an inferior version of the original game

>> No.5722889

>>5722286
well, do you own one?
also it was kinda a joke because, if you don't live in Japan, the shipping for one of those would also be quite a tax. Of course a working man can still buy it, but it's not gonna be cheap.

>> No.5723000

>>5722723
The compositions are fine, but I hate the instrumentation.

>> No.5723004

>>5722723
No knockback and enemies do less damage.

>> No.5723429

>>5723004
For the Original Mode as well? Whenever people talk about mechanical changes, I figure they're referring to port issues with the Original Mode. Otherwise a person could just play on Original Mode for the Sharp experience (HUD and time issues aside) and buying Chronicles wouldn't be an issue.

>> No.5723994

>>5723429
Nah, PSX original mode has the same gameplay as the X68K game.

>> No.5725160
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5725160

>>5716114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV0edD_Gsw8

Post it.