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> Best D2 wiki out there
> Guide to rune hunting in LK current to 1.13+
> Unified Guides and builds on jsp
> D2 drop calculatorS
Cool D2 promo, concept artworks, monster renderers and more
> Version 1.13d, for running off-realm, third-party mods and utils including plugy
> PlugY injector for improving your SP experience
> 3dfx-voodoo glide wrapper, for lighting the way it was meant to be seen

> Last semi active D1 community
> Jarulf's Guide (every game mechanic & stat for D1)
> D1 game engine engineered

>> No.5707468
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also buttse

>> No.5707482

Diablo 2 /v/ Private Server

Name: SRoVQ
Zone: 6
IP: gay.shiptoasting.com

Version: 1.13c
Konkey Dong Mod: http://www.mediafire.com/?nyc122n77lok2cl
Maphacks/Redvex/Botting allowed

It's a dead server but I'm on it, forever_alone.png

>> No.5707495
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Shilling my faggy mod again. Opens up many more areas to farm end game as well as bosses. Makes a lot of items more useful (sets, uniques and runewords). Stamina is gone, game slightly harder, especially the bosses like izual and the summoner. Some of the shittier skills are more useful, bows and claws are more comparable to other weapon types, poison is more usable in some ways.

I didn't add anything extra, like the wacky or dumb shit that ruins most mods, I just did my best at making the base game slightly better.


>> No.5707503

That image is really quite beautiful on my large screen.

>> No.5707517

ancient armor and studded leather are the clear best looking.

>> No.5707547

Tristan.ram is gone.

There are a few forums you can find with active Diablo communities.

Check the Gog Diablo forum for how to get Battle Net working. It is a bit of a pain now.

It's a pity, the Gog release seemed to get a lot of attention to what is IMO the best Diablo, but Blizzard fucked up D1 Bnet and can't be assed to fix it.

Port forwarding was pretty straight forward though.

>> No.5707549

I'm sorry but I'm still not understanding how LK is suppose to work. Is it the fact that you might get a high rune that makes it worth doing? Because I only got 5 runes in 30 mins of doing those runs, the highest being dol. Am I suppose to be getting more runes in total?

>> No.5707558

It's just the most efficient way to find high runes. But high runes are fucking rare no matter what. Multiply that 30 minutes times 50 and you have a good shot at a Ber though.

>> No.5707561

It's supposed to take hundreds of runs, even thousands, zoomer, to get even a single high rune. You're the guy from the last thread, no? I'm beginning to agree with the sperg who said you have brain damage.

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>I only got 5 runes in 30 mins of doing those runs

Welcome to Diablo. Enjoy your grind.

>> No.5707568

>30 mins
try 30 hours

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>> No.5707578

If you're in single player just use an editor bro.

Hell, even on Bnet running shit is crazy. The game is empty after Nightmare now, and you can beat Nightmare with just skills on a caster or with any melee character with Steeldriver and Saigon's boots/gloves.

Hell games are either bot runs or empty.

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>> No.5707596
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>offline botting

>> No.5707601

Is tristr.am dead?

>> No.5707603
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That's the highest resolution version of any image I've seen from Empire of Dust, I didn't think it even existed in that quality.

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>can't see/read the top right corner

>> No.5707610

You do realize not everyone wants to play and beat games by cheating right? If you're gonna use an editor you may as well go play fortnite.

>> No.5707617

You're not on Bnet or a private realm with other people. You might as well be offline.

>No, you see, technically-

I know what you mean. Listen, if you're going to bot, you might as well just edit yourself the runes you want because damn, son. You're not even playing the game at this point.

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wait, are you seriously botting by yourself?

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>> No.5707634
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Oh christ he even has a fucking name. No one cares who you are, that's half the reason 4chan is so great. Go back to plebbit if you want usernames, faggot.

>> No.5707638


I was about to be a dumb cunt and excoriate you for the same thing.

thanks anon

>> No.5707647

Botting is cheating, hombre.

You're cheating yourself.

>> No.5707657

I guess he's just doing it for the dopamine hits when his bot picks up anything greater than an Ist. Who can understand the mind of a madman?

>> No.5707671

Okay after watching this video again I think I'm finally understanding what it is this guy and everyone else has been saying all along. I re-rolled the map and now I have the 2 campfires with the 6 super chests. I just understand why you guys are giving me such a hard time though. Not everyone has been playing this damn game for 20 years.

>> No.5707675

*I DON'T understand I meant

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>I re-rolled the map and now I have the 2 campfires with the 6 super chests.
Wow, sure sounds like that thing I told you to do at least 3 times. In baby words. In steps. Fucks sake.

...and the rest of you wonder why I get mad. Who couldn't rage against a world where people like this insult to evolution exist?

>> No.5707693

>sure sounds like that thing I told you to do at least 3 times
No you didn't

>> No.5707709

Anyone here played the D1 mod 'The Hell'? I saw people talking about it last thread and just downloaded it, seems fun so far, but I wanted to ask if it's worth the time investment?

>> No.5707713

Another anon who joined that discussion: no, it really is that simple.

>> No.5707737

Careful not to cut yourself on all that edge.

>> No.5707821

i assume this is not compatible with plugy

>> No.5707831


>> No.5707838

Of course it is. Virtually every single mod ever made is compatible, unless the modder specifically wants it not to be compatible. Balance mods like that one are always going to be compatible, because they don't really change that much.

>> No.5707854

Works fine with it. Gomule as well if that's you're thing. 1.13 through 1.14. Hell you could probably smash another mod into it if you knew your stuff.

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I am a very happy man right now lol

>> No.5707903

If it's a bot, it's cheating and hyperretarded for single player.

If you're optimizing your own build to clear the same area over and over in a few seconds with no risk of faliure... still retarded.

If you want to try out BOTD just plug one in lol.

>> No.5707907


Yes. But the Hell 2 has way more. It is on stable beta but had a few balance issues. 1.10 will be out this summer. Someone with more skills than me should make a realm. This game is what D3 should have been.

>> No.5707908

Played it way back, maybe 6 or 7 years ago, it's really cool and does some neat things with Hellfire assets, and if you like that sort of thing, it's way harder than vanilla Diablo.
It has some new music apparently, and it's actually some pretty good stuff, almost sounds a bit like what Uelmen would make.

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>mod where all the super uniques are replaced with bosses with life bars 3/4ths the width of the screen
>they can be lightning enchanted
This is what I get for making a melee character on a difficulty mod.

>> No.5708497

Is normal cows worth farming for gems?

>> No.5708612

Depends on the kind of gem. If you are looking for flawless, it is abysmally bad.

>> No.5708630

I'm just looking for chipped gems especially Amethyst so I can cube my Amns

>> No.5708736

Just check for gem shrines in early act 1 and clear the shamen camps on /p8

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>> No.5708939

Amazon still the best butts.
Paladin don't look like he's wearing heavy armour even in full plate, compared to Druid.

>> No.5708943

>max damages on claws
I thought everyone uses Kicking-sins these days and only have resistances/skills on their claws?

>> No.5708957

for me,it's the ASS-ASS-in

>> No.5708965

I once installed the nude assassin mod, but I had no idea how to turn it off, unless I played it vanilla w/o the singleplayer mod. Reinstalled D2 from scratch from old dusty CDs. Surprised the CDs still worked!

>> No.5708967
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The astute observer will note that there are staffmods on this imbue which are supposedly impossible to get (Clay, Amplify) in combo with something like +2 Skill Levels.

This is a level 10 character imbuing an absurdly rare ilvl 85 base in normal. I don't know exactly what the fuck went on here though. Anyone know about imbues who could explain what happened in one- or two-syllable words?

>> No.5708995

Why would those be impossible to get together? I have never heard of there being any kind of limitation, outside of skills not appearing on items of the wrong type (e.g. poison dagger will almost never show up on preserved heads).

>> No.5709006

When a high level level character imbues, you get a hugely buffed amount of staffmods (3/3/3 is not uncommon) but can't get the level 1 skills. There is some kind of tapered off restriction on this that is not on normally found rares. So +2 skills in combo with +3 skeles/mastery is not an actual thing, sins won't get claw mastery, barbs wont get lvl1 masteries, dudes won't get Lycanthropy, etc etc

>> No.5709023

In that case, it probably means that staffmods generate based on clvl when imbuing.

>> No.5709168

>the old thread is only just NOW going to expire
Why did we leave like a whole day early?

>> No.5709316

Did runs recently for Keys of Destruction with Hammerdin. Once you understand the pattern and/or shift your char to spot, they are easy to pass/kill. Don't panic and run around like a flayer.

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So I got stuck in this dramatic pose while double swinging at vipers, can't move or do anything.

>> No.5709502

Weapon swap.

>> No.5709537

Edit your savegame and get Double Throw and shouts like a non-conformist.

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>> No.5709579

It just never ceases to amaze me that a game this old had this much variety in character visuals.

>I didn't add anything extra, like the wacky or dumb shit that ruins most mods, I just did my best at making the base game slightly better.
You say this but I think everyone has their own views about the game and reading through the changelog I saw a bunch of stuff that I didn't really understand or agree with. I feel like the skill balance along with the endgame area/monster level changes would be the only actually compelling features of your mod. And if I want those then it would make more sense to play PoB because I think it does more interesting things when it comes to balance. Though it does go full retard over some things.

>> No.5709585

Thanks, I'll remember that should it happen again.

I'm not really into projectile stuff.

>> No.5709601

I said add, not change, you illiterate. Almost every other mod adds retarded mechanics, overdone recipes, pointless extra items.

>doesn't specify what exactly he doesn't like
Elaborate or fuck off. Your whole comment is pointless if you don't offer reasoning.

Please frel free to offer suggestions/say what you dont specifically like though, I'd be happy to implement them. With explanations.

Though if you're just another sorc crying about the teleport, you can suck my dick. Its entirely deserved and blizzard were out if their minds ever letting it get beyond beta.

Alright, now you're just baiting. Always online can go fuck itself....and it does absolutely nothing to fix the fact that most items are useless.

>> No.5709608

When the fuck is PoD ladder resetting anyway?

>> No.5709715

Just dropped an SoJ from a group of trashmobs in world stone. Feels gud.

>> No.5709746

The website is broken somehow at the moment and the ladder can't reset til it gets repaired because the devs decided to run half the fucking game through it. Soonish.

Benefits of being online. Oh wait, not benefits....the other thing.

>> No.5709756

best alternative to d2?

except grim dawn, titan quest, path of exile, warhammer chaosbane, pagan online

>> No.5709763


>> No.5709771

>best alternative to d2?
>but don't give me any of the best ones

Diablo 1. is good.

Seriously though? Kinda left of field, but Warframe fits the bill surprisingly well. It's very diablo like, just from a different camera perspective. You could also try torchlight or sacred, they're not bad.

>> No.5709774

I meant to make the point that while you intention is good you'll have a hard time doing changes with a community this autistic. Particularly the mana changes struck out to me as weird and I'm not sure if I agree on the bigger resistance reductions on nightmare and hell. On top of that a lot of the unique changes were just weird or pointless. I feel like you probably had some intention when making each change but I failed to grasp it when I quickly went through them.

Fuck sorcs. Most boring class in the game.

>and it does absolutely nothing to fix the fact that most items are useless.
It's funny because it does actually interesting changes to some uniques that actually enable new kinds of builds. Sure there's still a lot of useless uniques but I'd rather have new build options than seemingly random little changes that mostly achieve nothing.

>always online
Doesn't bother me as diablo is the type of game that I always play with friends anyway but I can see it being annoying if you prefer solo.

Overall I think I'd need to actually play your mod to get a feel how the changes play out but at the same time the mod doesn't do enough to actually justify playing it IMO.

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>Benefits of being online.

but what about playing with frens

>> No.5709804

Anon for fucks sake. I asked you to please explain WHY. THREE (3) times. How did you miss that? Or could it be that you don't have reasons....but I'll try and reply regardless.

>Particularly the mana changes struck out to me as weird
WHY? I'll agree on that to a degree, sure, but it's not like it's that different, just means that stat sees some use early game, as opposed to no use all game. I don't see a downside to having an extra stat to balance, isn't that part of the fun in these games?

>I'm not sure if I agree on the bigger resistance reductions on nightmare and hell.
WHY? It makes the game slightly harder, it's not like anyone actually finds it difficult at all how it currently is. Perhaps it makes the stat too necessary? Possibly, but I've taken 5 classes so far through to the end of hell and didn't have any issues.

>On top of that a lot of the unique changes were just weird or pointless
Again WHY? and I guess 'which' as well...and what do you mean by pointless? Almost every single change is just a direct damage upgrade in one way or another, to bring them onto the level of the most used OG stuff, or at least nearer to it...and everything else is something that allows more skill access on other classes/MF.

Congrats anon, another completely pointless post. I would be much, much more open to being civil when talking about this, if you actually EXPLAINED THE FUCKING REASONING BEHIND YOUR POINTS. I'd really love to make this mod as good as it could be with yours and anyone elses help, but your post does nothing.

You did this on purpose aren't you?

>> No.5709831

do I REALLY have to make a sorc?

>> No.5709835

Off the bat seems like the change would make early game mana even worse than it already is and it would continue to be a non-issue late game.

Makes you more reliant on resistance heavy items and/or charms to cap out. I personally hate the small inventory space and how charms fill it even more so this is more a personal opinion than necessarily a bad thing.

I honestly don't feel like going through them one by one. Too much effort.

>You did this on purpose aren't you?
No. I didn't mean to make it an argument about specific features in the first place because most of the time it's something that has no one right answer. People have their own opinions about the game and I don't expect you to agree with all the autistic opinions I have so I didn't mean to even try.

>> No.5709850

Yeah alright whatever on the majority, but I'll take the resistances into reconsideration. I did take, as I said, 5 classes (sorc, pally, zon, necro and druid) through hell and it really wasn't that much more difficult. Hardest part was the start of Hell and I think once you have all the typical end game gear, you really wouldn't notice it much outside of being a min-max sorc faggot.

>> No.5709871

Depends how much you care about efficiency and how much time you intend to invest. You don't HAVE to do anything, it's just faster than the other classes for a lot of content.

>> No.5709925

Why is it considered a waste of time to MF for certain items?

>> No.5709934

Haven’t played d2 since like 2000, I know 3 came out and is on just about every system. Is 3 worth playing or should I get d2 again?

>> No.5709953

I assume because it's either ludicrously rare or so common that you'd find it while farming other stuff anyway. What items?

3 is like 2, but with a shittier story, boring music, less item depth and a terrible WoW art style. It does however feel better to play than anything else on the market.

Your choice.

>> No.5710015

Nice, keep doing God's work anon

>> No.5710023

I thought you had every reason to get mad, I just thought he was pretending to be retarded for easy (You)s

>> No.5710030

Nice man, I still haven't found one yet

>> No.5710046

>I just thought he was pretending to be retarded for easy (You)s
I still think there's a chance he might be, it's hard to tell the idiots from those pretending to be idiots.

>> No.5710053

>"working as intended" - Blizzard
Full retard.

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Just be happy that they're in a quest area you aren't forced into.

>> No.5710064

Unless you want to farm Key of Destruction.

>> No.5710350

wow the spider jungle/great marsh gives me fucking cancer

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This is why you play mods that make everything else cancerous so that it seems less terrible in comparison.

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What the FUCK is that? Just looking at the map gave me a blood pressure spike.

>> No.5710473

Why is Act 4 so comfy?

>> No.5710490
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I love going afk near the fireplace, it's top tier comfy.

>> No.5710656

How the fuck do you solo hell my god this is annoying. I'm halfway close to quitting this game.

>> No.5710660

Be a Necro w a merc w 2k def and an Obedience polearm

>> No.5710662

>short but sweet
>izzy quest x3
>hellforge quest gives mid HR on hell mode if you're lucky
>2 ilvl 85 areas
>hell chaos gives the occasional HR up to Zod
>hell diablo drops
What's not to love?
except Burning Souls, fuck those
git gud
what class you playing?

>> No.5710668

>Just be a caster with godly gear
Great advice

I'm talking in general

>> No.5710670

you do lower kurast because odds are if you need runes you are not capable of wiping out hell cows/chaos sanc in a reasonably fast time

>> No.5710695

There is no "in general" unless you have godly equipment. How to tackle hell completely depends on your character.

>> No.5710734

Found all that in NM w maybe 50 boss/tower runs. Basic shit

>> No.5710742

max resists
well geared Merc (Obedience, Tal's head, good body armor like Fortitude or Kraken Shell)
good FCR and FHR.
Max block with good FBR if you're Paladin
walk more than run, dont run blindly into rooms/areas without scoping them out first, if you have a summon (Bear, Valkarie, Golem etc) cast one into areas ahead of you as a test dummy in case of Gloams or an archer pack.
Know the mobs that can spawn on different maps and reroll if you get shitty mobs (like Gloams, Archer packs etc)
Have either some sort of multi-Element build or have an Infinity runeword to break immunities on fire/cold/lightning. Necro, Druid and Meteorb Sorc are all great at skirting around immunities.

Also dont be afraid to just ignore mobs or run past shit areas.

If in doubt, watch some videos or watch some speedruns of players going through Hell. Good way to learn, because Speedrunners regularly clock the game through Hell in 2~4 hours at around lvl 25 or so, depending on the class/build.

>> No.5710773

Is Obedience really that good? Because I can make one with a grim scythe right now. Should I hold out for something better though?

>> No.5710775

It'll be better if you find a thresher

>> No.5710870

farm, buddy, farm. Nightmare mephisto.

>> No.5710890

Honesty I'm thinking about nuking the whole thing, chars and gear and all, and just doing nothing but a fishymancer or trapsin just to say I finally beat the damn game. I am beyond frustrated that everytime I play this game I get stonewalled when I get to hell. I enjoy D2 but at this point I'm annoyed to shit with this.

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Every single class can do it. People have been doing it with deliberately shit builds for years just because it's something fun to do. Other people speedrun normal through hell in less than 10 hours total. Either you're doing something horrifically so far off meta it's unheard of, or you have brain aids.

It's that or you're expecting to clear through hell too quickly. What is your character, build and items so far? There's no point to you coming here crying about it if you're not gonna let us help. How much time have you farmed in nightmare? Have you made any mid level runewords? What level are you?

>> No.5710962

Then I guess I'm doing something wrong. I'm not going to list all of that because I did that before and no one helped. Though I will say the furthest I've gotten is Act 4. Yes I know I need to farm for gear, I get that. But when I do hours of farming and get nothing I can't help but get disappointed. At this point I just want to beat hell and finally move on. I feel like I can't even enjoy this game because I have been trying for so long and haven't done it.

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precisely that

>> No.5710973

>At this point I just want to beat hell and finally move on.
Well if you're so blackpilled then yeah, just make a fishymancer or sor or trapsin, something brainless that can clear with nothing but skill points.

Or you could post your stuff and I'd try to help.

>> No.5710976

Max out valkyrie and any synergies. You can now solo the entire game naked.
Max out bear and shockwave. You can now solo the entire game naked.
If you are a man, put some points into howl and taunt, and you will be able to solo the entire game with just Black and Malice. If you aren't, use war cry and you will be able to solo the entire game naked.
No easy way to win with this character. You just have to get good.
>paladin, necromancer, assassin
I honestly don't know how you can be having troubles with these characters, so I'll assume you aren't playing them.

>> No.5710982

How are you boomers able to still play this game after 20 fucking years holy fucking shit. Yeah it's good, but is it really that good? God damn it.

>> No.5710985

you would probably have more success if you asked anywhere other than the board dedicated to playing 20-year-old video games

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it's cause the industry forgot to make any truly good games over the last 15 years

>> No.5710987

>>>/v/ is two boards to the left

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Mods keep me alive.

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>> No.5711004
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They sure don't make em like they used to, I'll tell ya that for free, kid.

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>windows XP
Why couldn't we just keep getting XP but safer, more powerful and more stable? Instead we get bloat after bloat filled shitty systems. They had the perfect OS for everyone that isn't an autismo and they ruined it.

>> No.5711016

the enchant is really what kicks it up a notch, means he's not missing half of the time.
Also he'll be doing a good 2k dmg a swing if it's in a good base.

This. It can even be beaten by a Pacifist Paladin where you only deal damage through Thorns and % to cast X gear.

>> No.5711019

Do like the other guy says, post a screenshot of your gear, your lvl, stats and skill build so we can help you. Seriously, sometimes small shit can mean the difference between getting dead or not. I greatly underestimated the importance of Faster Hit Recovery for decades.

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>How are you boomers able to still play this game after 20 fucking years holy fucking shit
>Asking this question on /vr/

Do you get lost on your way back to /v/? Here I'll help you out kiddo

>> No.5711024

Because they started employing zoomers like this>>5710982

>> No.5711027

>Faster Hit Recovery
Playing hardcore sure beat that lesson into me.

>> No.5711029

I still use Windows XP on my retro gaming PC, dualboot with Win98 on it as well.
Runs great and has the best UI of all the Windows versions, at least for me. Shit's easy to find and everything runs well.

>> No.5711035

XP re release when? It'd sell like fucking hotcakes.

>> No.5711036

You're talking as if XP itself wasn't just unnecessary bloat in the first place. Tell me what does XP have that isn't in 95/98 already. I'd be happy to keep using 98 if it kept being updated.

>> No.5711046
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>tfw it will never be safe to turn off your computer again

I preferred the UI in XP over any of the previous, enough so that I didn't care about any bloat. Compared to today it's not even noticeable. I do understand where you're coming from though.

>> No.5711048

>windows went from protecting you into being the spyware
>diablo 3 was what it was
truly the worst timeline

>> No.5711050

>hours of farming and get nothing
What's your MF and what class are you?

>> No.5711053

I already got a lvl 85 necro but I feel like I really need enigma to be effective with him and it seems like LK with sorceress is the best way to get those runes

>> No.5711214

>not the patrician Win2k
Best UI, converted Win 7 to it.
Telestaff. just give yourself gold

>> No.5711516

Can you buy a staff with teleport charges? If so from where?

>> No.5711543
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>play plugy
>uber smite
>farm keys
>get organs
>save and exit
>copy save file
>start new game
>enter tristram
>kill ubers
>identify large charm
>it's another barb whilst I need amazon
>save and exit
>delete save files
>copy backup
>rinse & repeat until I have torches for all chars

Lol, goodbye incessant grinding.

>> No.5711549

Save yourself the effort and download a heroeditor.

>> No.5711552

If you do that one thing, why not more? Where does it stop?

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You know I REALLY wish I had known about these earlier. God damnit. Where do you go to learn everything possible about this game's mechanics?

>> No.5711561

is the the lightning icon from planescape torment

>> No.5711579

I'm not a cheater,I'll just make a sorceress

>> No.5711581

Spend more time looking at items. I found out about the tele staff because I dropped an item called Naj's Puzzler. It's a set item that always rolls with TP charges. Then I decided to see if anything else can give them with a google search. Quickly found out about them being on magic staves. Exact same thing happened to me when I was wondering why "damage reduced by 3" even existed. Turns out there was an item that gave over 20 points and it suddenly made playing hardcore/keeping mercs alive 10x easier.

This game is so old that literally every single possible aspect has been talked about and dissected to the most minute detail on forums, all you have to do is search for it. You could also watch a youtuber like mrllama, he does speedruns which showcase so many tips and tricks, or someone like killrobplays who did a ton of retard builds through norm/nightmare and goes into quite a lot of depth while doing so.

TLDR: pay attention and google shit. Also helps to have been playing the game on and off for 20 years.

Potion selling merchants. I can't recall the level they spawn, but just go to the one that sells any staff and save and exit until they sell one, or run/waypoint in and out of town.

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Stopped right there. I'm a monk and have complete control over my destiny. Unlike you plebs who immediately lose control and act out like heroin addicts.

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>t. death by marijuana overdose by 30

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Tir, Ith, Sol, Ko,
Stick them in your Shadow Bow.
Nock a goose shaft, let it go.
Is Diablo not retro?

>> No.5711880

>max Valk
Like this?

On that note try playing a Druid shooter with lots of ravens. Ravens have no HP and don't die.

>> No.5711883


>> No.5711907
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How much MF is optimal? Running 633% on my Summoner.

>> No.5711913

Dumb question. Depends entirely on what you're farming for and who you're farming. But at 600% you're already well into extreme diminishing returns,3-400 is more than enough.

>> No.5711918

2-300, maybe 400 if you're farming sets as well.

>> No.5711936

Create a cow portal next to Akara (I was in NM) and pop in and out and look for a staff w tele charges

>> No.5711947

The number that lets you farm the fastest.

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>> No.5711990

Holy Grail. Just playing game and seeing what drops next off the list.
I level the field with this setup. 12 skeletons, Might merc with obedience, fort and andy,

>> No.5712127

I've got the same setup and it works great. Was sick of the 20 point cap so reset skills and just put the extras into RS and SM. Only need a couple points in Revive anyway, for blunderbores mainly.
This build has like 20 extra points

>> No.5712227

vanilla bnet or modded SP/TCPIP for a humble singleplayer/LAN with siblings situation?

>> No.5712305

Most people don't play this game every day for the last 20 years. I reinstall games I enjoy every couple of years and replay them.

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big diminishing returns after 150 or 200%
most important MF you can get is the first 100MF as soon as possible.

>> No.5712353

I love how Necro can have all MF gear without losing power.

>> No.5712472

>2 toap helm or later shako
>25% gloves
>20% boots
>50+ from rings and ammy
>25% from rhyme rune word
So easy

>> No.5712726

Don't do it though. Get 150, 200 tops and you already have all the unique find you can get.
This guy's 600
is just turning all the nice white bases blue.

>> No.5712775

That's like 175

>> No.5712839
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>not having a 1k+ MF Barb following you

>> No.5712849
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>try to kill one of these strippers
>they run away faster than you
>run across the whole level and wake every monster

How did anyone play this? I consider myself a vet of 2/3 and the first shitty boss stun locked me to death before I grinded past him. Apparently basic enemies permenantly lower ho an shrines will lower Mana and stats forever.

Shit is retarded.

>> No.5712879

Diablo 1 is a roguelite game, you are approaching it wrong.

As for succubus, warrior can use ranged weapons and spells.

>> No.5712902

Play as a sorcerer. The other characters are jokes.

>> No.5712903

this except I rocked a 3p.topaz helm, 4p.topaz body, 34% chance guards, 24% boots and rhyme, though really you can get by just by rocking the topaz head/body.
Arctic Hands & Belt plus Vidala Feet & Amulet is a quick and easy 90% MF for low level too.

>> No.5712931

Path of Diablo is actually breddy good.

>> No.5713028

Saw a Lo rune drop for me today while I was doing an NM baal run, I think that's the highest rune I can ever remember seeing. I haven't gotten around to doing LK runs though, on still on Act 2 Hell with my sorc on singleplayer.

>> No.5713090

>dodge speed increases with fanaticism
>fists of fire converts physical damage to fire
>holy freeze depends on chill effectiveness despite not actually chilling
This fucking game, every time I read into a skill I learn something new.

>> No.5713102

You can use a bow you know and only 1 enemy perma reduces your HP and pretty much most shrines are shit so you don't even need to click on them.

See? If you just weren't a massive retard you'd be able to fix your own problems

>> No.5713405

All white bases are belong to me already, only thing I have left are elite uniques.
Because the game is gambling simulator while at same time having early 90s arcade feel of Doom, that is plug and play. It's like Candy Crush or any mobile timewaster.

>start game in 5 seconds
>cast cta buffs
>do farm
>literally press 2 buttons the entire time
>talk with yourself over important life matters or listen to music completely unaware of mobs because fuck mobs when you lightning sorc with 50k damage or uber smiter with 700k

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>tfw you will never play BloBlo

>> No.5713818

>All white bases are belong to me already
show exile

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>> No.5714006

How would BloBlo even play? Just like normal Diablo 2, but everything is distorted and messy?

>> No.5714016


Maxed out Magic Find shout with a barbie. Don't give your barbie any skills other than the magic find shout. Then you win at MF.

>> No.5714040

>hurr farm dumb shit for thousands of hours for no reason
dis game kinda gay

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speaking of gf barbs does anyone know how to make the merc survive hell trav? When I did it on realms I felt like I was using meme gear: ebotd war pike, ebug treach, and CoT, and he never lived very long against them.

>> No.5714084

I'm guessing the merc is dying because of the Hydras?

>> No.5714115

Steel Shade is one option. I've never tested it but the fire absorb might be helpful. If your only concern is him staying alive, you might equip him with a Guardian Angel or upped Darkglow for the +max fire res. Alternatively, just be quicker in feeding him full rejuvs

>> No.5714208

I think hydras had to do with it but not everything. Proc Treach and swap something like Gangel sounds possible but laborious.

>> No.5714247

It's probably Bremm Sparkfist with his Aura Enchanted Conviction used against you.

>> No.5714260

He's not in travincal luckily. The optimal way to use a goldfind barb is to have the merc exclusively solo the council in trav, but I had problems figuring out his gear setup for this. I think if a conviction randomly spawns in there you have little choice but to ditch.

>> No.5714287

Eth bug fortitude and an Obedience eth thresher6

>> No.5714295

Good news, you don't have to farm at all! You're welcome to try the untwinked single-pass challenge.

>> No.5714318

Oh yeah, I meant Ismail Vilehand and his Cursed mod.
If you're really unlucky you might get a boss pack near them with some nasty mods like Conviction, I know I've had to re-roll some maps because of this a few times.

>> No.5714339

Out of curiousity, how old were you guys when you first played this game? I was 10 and first played it back in 2002. I literally spent an entire summer doing nothing but playing this shit on BNet lol. I barely understood how to play it but still had tons of fun. Good times.

>> No.5714351

have you gambled any rare amulets that are better than a maras?

>> No.5714357

8, played it on release day in Australia. My dad was a huge fan of d1 and got me into it. We played so much of the game together. Same with the expansion, day of release, I remember getting off school and starting, thus began the ruination of my social life for years. Good times.

Used to give out burned copies of the game on disc at school.

>> No.5714392

I don't know if you have a Crown of Ages handy, but you could try putting a Vex or two into whatever helm you use for the +max fire res. or Vex-Ral, or Vex-Fire Res/IAS jewel. I don't know how much gear you have on hand to play around with, but I imagine a CoA would make any merc pretty sturdy.

>> No.5714432

ok what's the best way to get enigma other than LK?
fuck me this is mind-numbingly boring and dumb,I'm not opening chests for 10 hours straight in a fucking arpg where I'm supposed to be murdering demons and shit

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>10 hours

>> No.5714445

>wants Enigma
>but doesn't want to grind
>Enigma only really matters if you want to grind
Reconsider your decisions.

>> No.5714446

Play online and trade. Either that or consider perhaps the game is not for you.

>> No.5714457

Use an editor. Otherwise enjoy the grind.

>> No.5714470

Are there any mods that make a bow paladin less shit?

>> No.5714479

4th post of the thread

>> No.5714480

What would you need out of a bowadin mod? I could make it in a few dozen minutes most likely if you describe your desired changes.

>> No.5714493

>not doing lower + upper kurast chests and countess runs
go do some cows/chaos then

>> No.5714505

Hell Chaos/Cows. if you don't want to grind for chests, your best bet is maximizing your kill count. even if you never actually drop a Ber or Jah, you can still start cubing up from lower runes. Eldrtich and Shenk is a also good density combo. WSK is also good for large and fairly easy mobs.

>> No.5714521

Burning/Black Souls & Undead Soul Killers would like a word with you.

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>> No.5714538

undead soul killers can't spawn in WSK so that's not an issue. and Souls are easily negated by high light res and a tgods which isn't too hard of a find.

>> No.5714539

>amulets and charms with socket items
Organize your shit.

>> No.5714545

>charms on the left side of the inventory

>> No.5714552

>empty space and tomes on the right of inventory
Efficiency, anon, think how much time would you have saved over the hours not having to have moved the mouse that far

>> No.5714558

I was 20-ish , in the army. Damn this place is too full of kiddies.

>> No.5714562

What does it do for bow paladin? Just unique bow buffs?

I guess in general the problem is that you have to play holy fire because it works with the exploding arrows mod thats on some bows. With all the fire immunes on hell it's a bit of a pain in the ass. Not really sure how to fix that though. PoD changed one of the unique bows to give level 1 multishot but that worked better for an enchantress.

>> No.5714567

Try Hero Editor.
Or just play Normal only , Hardcore, like a non-autist.

>> No.5714568

>What does it do for bow paladin? Just unique bow buffs?
That, damage increase for all bows as well as being able to get strafe.

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>tfw I got a Jah from a sparkly chest in A5

>> No.5714582

>extra strong cursed fanaticism vipers
based evil urn telling me that it's time to take a break because i'm on autopilot and that i should play something else while i'm drunk as shit later

>> No.5714595

I love Evil Urns. They were such a great addition in Act 5. I also like how the first one you encounter outside the entrance to the Crystalline Passage doesn't spawn anything so you go inside not realizing they spawn mobs. Sneaky.

>> No.5714606

So that's why that happens with the outside one. Man I'm retarded.

>> No.5714610
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I gambled maras. My biggest-ever mf score by a long shot.

But I prefer to gamble for rings and circlets. With a few millions you can get a pair of 10fcr rings with ~30 resists between them. Amulets with 10fcr appear occasionally which are better than maras if you need the breakpoint, but it is better to craft caster amulets.

The barb could flatten the nightmare council in a 1 minute run which gives about 400k gold, but on NM of course you lose out on horking uniques and runes.

Yeah unfortunately the phys resistance doesn't pan out great there because like >>5714318 said there's a fellow who will pretty much always Amp you. I think on Hell everyone's physical resist gets completely tanked by Amp because there is already an invisible -50.

>gain damage and cb
>lose 105 attack speed and life leech
>doesn't need a zod
yeah probably more realistic on sp...

>> No.5714630

you gambled perfect maras? nice
i still only have a 25 and a 22

>> No.5714635

Maybe Defiance mercenary under Battle Orders/Shout with treachery, obedience, crown of thieves and a belt of full rejuvs on standby. You could also try buying a life tap wand to curse the council so he steals life that way.

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Outside LK there is cows & 85 areas, and they are pleasant and moderately efficient. I am cubing runes mainly from cows and hellforge runs. It's probably taken about 200 hours over the past few months, LK would have been more like 60.

Yet as you point out, running LK is fucking shit and I won't touch it. Kolbot in LK could find you the runs and slot the armor automatically in about 6 hours. I see no point in trying to inefficiently mimic a bot, but if other people are obsessed with it whatever.

Really I'm legit impressed. But there is much work to be done. Ditch the excess mf and keep looking for a 45 to ebug!

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>Council casts Hydras
>they fuck you up
>you cast Hydras
>they're useless

>> No.5714730

16. it came out just as I was finishing highschool, but because of no internet my brother and I were terrible at the game doing stupid builds. I think we only ever made it as far as Normal Act 4.
We were such noobs that Rares were a big deal for us, because we never found sets/uniques because we thought that magic find only found magic items.

>> No.5714732

saved and blackpilled

>> No.5714734

you can always run The Pit, Ancient Tunnels, Mauso etc. Chance of any rune dropping, plus runeword bases and MFing for GG uniques.

>> No.5715025

11. Running around w a scythe as a Necro playing as a barb just slashing everything and never once casting amplify or corpse explosion
I have a Tal helm for life leach on my merc
It only works when there is a mob nearby

>> No.5715047

>It only works when there is a mob nearby
No. Monsters, including those made by the Evil Urn, have a limit on how close they can spawn next to an entrance/exit/waypoint (with a few special exceptions).

>> No.5715052

the Evil Urns outside the Crystalline Passage and the Ancients' Way cannot spawn mobs. Monster Shrines on the other hand do need an enemy to turn into a champion, and won't create one of thin air.

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>It only works when there is a mob nearby

>> No.5715080

Learn something new about D2 constantly. Thought it was just because I popped it after clearing the area

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>Learn something new about D2 constantly.
Yeah it's a great game to really dig into for autsimos. Like imbuing wirts leg, you can then upgrade it in the cube, which turns it into a hand axe. Then you can upgrade it two more times after that. You can also turn it magical with the cube recipe as well.

>> No.5715254

*casts iron golem*

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The reason it turns into a hand axe is because the hand axe is the first weapon written into the weapons table.

>> No.5715324

You can do something similar with the Horadric Staff as well. upgrading it turns it into a hand axe with the staff's attributes, which are actually not bad for a level 6 requirement with +50 IAS and +all resistances

>> No.5715624

isn't that kinda pointless and expensive with runes required to upgrade???

>> No.5715645

Wow this sounds interdasting. Do you think the hand axe poofs if the tomb of tal rasha is opened in the game?

>> No.5715721

How do I make Diablo 2 not tedious?

>> No.5715759


>> No.5715764

13 or 14? My first was a pally, no particular build because I didn't know what the fuck i was doing but I think I maxed Zeal. No bnet for the most part.

>> No.5715780

You're gonna have to be more specific there anon. What part you find tedious?

>> No.5715884

Play Summoning Necro build. Get good resist gear, put a point into Bone armor and some points into Bone Wall (to make Bone armor stronger).
It changes the game to basically:
>run to area
>semi-afk as your wall of skeletons, golems, merc and revives slowly kill everything
>just make sure you wont die from the odd archer or frost nova that might slip through and hurt you
>nibble your snacks, sip your beer and enjoy whatever TV show/movie/anime/let's play/stream you're watching
>check back after 5 minutes
>move to next area
>repeat forever until you beat diablo 2
the only comfy way to play diablo 2. every other class feels like a chore afterwards, what with actually having to click buttons and do stuff instead of being afk 80% of the time.

>> No.5715943

Not everyone enjoys the game the same way. Even with a necro you can do a shitload to make it more efficient with curses and corpse explosion but also makes the gameplay less afking obviously.

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Of course it's pointless and expensive, but I wasn't telling you to do it, just that you could, brainlet. Plus the the game is 20 years old, you really think people aren't doing pointless things by now?

>> No.5716117

does plugy save /players 8 or do I have to do it every time I start a new game?

>> No.5716125

Keeps it when you save/quit, but not when you actually close the game itself.

>> No.5716251

Afk and d2 don't mix. Even with summoner I constantly run around and ce 500 mile radius because I am such a fast and efficient killer. My merc has andy fort and obedience, he grinds down everything. Even my skellies manage to kill shit and give me ce resource.

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Post perfect maps.

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Also why people shill for Infinity on Lightning sorc merc? It's not mandatory.

>> No.5716775

what char do you guys usually use for ubers,trying to do something different other than smite pally

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>> No.5716796 [DELETED] 

do you have 1 campfire?
I believe a perfect map would have 2

>> No.5716801

Bowzon. Skele necro too, but the retarded AI can make it a little annoying.

>> No.5716893

Play normal mode , with LoD expansion of cose, win. Uninstall. Carry on with your life.

>> No.5716942

I have that map except they're to the west not the north. Took about 20 rolls.

>> No.5716985

>quality informative content
>retard kino
Killrob Plays
>avoid at all costs

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agreed. Dbrunski is a bit of a twat, but he makes decent stuff.

I think there's something legitimately wrong with Xtimus though.

>> No.5717040

Needs a few more categories
>pure autism incarnate
NoobTube Gaming

Alara Shade

>d3 favoring degenerate

>> No.5717048

tobe4funas is pretty cringe

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Half the reason I watch his stuff is for the attractive women he puts in the side panel.

>> No.5717084

rogue from diablo 1>act 1 merc from diablo 2
sorc from diablo 1>act 3 merc from diablo 2
wat happen to diablo 1 warrior?

>> No.5717097

I think you might need to replay diablo 1 again, my friend. The rogue from D1 is Blood Raven, the Sorc is the Summoner and the Warrior is the hooded guy you're chasing through the game i.e. diablo

Unless you're referring to the actual models?

>> No.5717106

I'm referring to the actual classes/models,not the characters themselves

>> No.5717107

I don't think it got used, sadly.

>> No.5717206

>Not everyone plays D2 the same way
Exactly. Thats why for me D2 is about getting comfy and watching something good on the other screen while my afk wall of skeletons does all the work. No rush, no min-maxing, no 20secs per run optimized LK run autism. Just comfy and killing shit with skeletons.
It makes every other class honestly seem like such a fucking drag because, ugh, you actually have to do stuff.
I've got beer to drink and shit to watch on TV, I dont waste my time dirtying my hands by killing stuff myself.

>> No.5717212

main thing wrong with Xitmus is he spends 30 minutes explaining something the llama or dbrunski explain in 5, plus he just repeats a lot of what they say.
llama is good because he has a mix of shit for all players to learn, going from ultra newbie tips right through to in depth game mechanics for experienced veterans.

>> No.5717426

I forgot about djwaters,he's at avoid at all costs

>> No.5717435

Alara Shade actually does have quality informative content including /p8 HC walkthroughs from Normal to Hell with pointers for noobs

not a waifu because the way she laughs is grating

>> No.5717551

It's not that it's mandatory, it's that lite gets the most mileage. Fire immunes have unbreakable resistance more often. Cold mastery is already based on lowering resist so the runeword is redundant against any non-CI's.

>> No.5718013

>not botting to sell gear on jsp and cash out on fg

>> No.5718340

I bet Llama is Canadian.

>> No.5718348

he's from the midwest somewhere like iowa or some shit, i remember him mentioning it in one of his videos

>> No.5718371

Think it was some meme state like Idaho

>> No.5718671

Act 1 rogues looked almost exactly like D1's Rogue. Act 3 mercs were just full plate mooks with magic. Act 2 mercs looked more like D1's enchanter because blax man.

>> No.5718724

he's italian american I think

>> No.5719180

Bros, I knocked 2 toughies off of my grail in one day, I'm psyched. I still have a ton of elite uniques to find, but I found wisp projector and a shako today in ancient tunnels. Also unique chaos armor but that doesn't seem like nearly as big a deal

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Good job anon. Keep at the grind.

>> No.5719238

B a c k u p

>> No.5719265

yeah probably a good idea considering. i'm new to plugy, where does it usually store data for me to back up

>> No.5719274

i'm assuming if i just copy the stuff in the plugY folder I'm good but i took everything just to be safe. stay on the grind bros.

>> No.5719286

D2/save/ + D2/Plugy/ folders.

>> No.5719328

In the cores folder, probably 1.13 core folder

>> No.5719413

D2SE is not the same thing as plugy.

>> No.5719543

who clears chaos sanctuary faster? a zealer or a frenzy barb?

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>2 SoJs in 5 hours

>> No.5719610

Oh I misread it as he had plugy
Still waiting for one

>> No.5719630

Frenzybarb will come out on top thanks to item find if you're asking about magic finding, probably faster clear speed too because not only does he move faster, but you can put frenzy on right click and just hold it down. Saves a lot of time.

>> No.5719632

nm andy and meph are the way to go
im actually trying to farm 35mf+ chance guards and 45mf+ war travs

>> No.5719649

Are we talking just for pure speed, or comparing full clears?
The question interested me so I decided to compare my best zealot against my best frenzy barb timewise. I timed from entrance into the Chaos Sanctuary rather than from the wp. The zealot was faster by about 10-12 seconds clocking in around 3 minutes 43 seconds.
The barb took around 3 minutes 56 seconds. Neither character has teleport, but the barb obviously has the higher movespeed, but it looks like the pally might have high kill speed between them.
Before I did the 2 runs, I would have said my barb would come out on top, and he still probably could if I just ran directly to the seals and killed nothing else. but as it stands the zealot won.
Though as the other poster already pointed out, if you're running for items, then the barb can effective do 2 runs in one with find item, so he is probably the better choice.

>> No.5719671

What are some unconventional high rune farming runs?
e.g.: killing wraiths or popping sparkly chests
I'm curious.

>> No.5719703

What do you use? Griefs? For my part I think the zealot would be easier to manage, in the very least, because he distributes the attacks around like a mini aoe. I would take him over a frenzy.

For casters the p setting matters a great deal because of spells' logistics. Hdin is one of the slower casters on p1, and the runaway winner in a full game.

>> No.5719714

it saves your gear/stash in a file in your /save folder. i delete mine every ladder reset

>> No.5719717

maybe Frenzy barb, just cuz he can focus just on the bosses.
If you mean actually clearing all the mobs in the zone though, i couldn't say.

>> No.5719720

farming Cows or any of the lv85 areas (pit, mauso, tunnels etc)

>> No.5719750

Zealot using Grief PB, Frenzy using a Grief PB/EBOTDZ.
and yes I felt the zealot was easier to manage even if his time was only a few seconds shorter.

>> No.5719751

i would love to play TheHell Diablo 1 mod with Devilutionx in Linux :P

>> No.5719763

I know I just have a great LK map and haven't been arsed to farm them yet. I bought some 30MF gloves in act 2 but they have shit for def. Not that I need it w my wall of skeles but still.

>> No.5719856

Instead of doing chaos, start from the city of the damned waypoint, head straight down the stairway and clear the whole river first before cs, it's 85. Don't tele throne, either. Walk the WSK, it's 85 too.

>> No.5719864

Also the barb can jump, so he saves a few seconds on the bridge.

>> No.5719890

Apart from Cows, ilvl 85 areas, L/UK super chest runs, Act Bosses, what else is there?

>> No.5719907

yeah, I figured between pally and barb, jump, charge, a telestaff or ammy, the lead-up through the river of flame was an open variable, so I just timed it from entry into the Chaos.

>> No.5719912

Isn't one of the basements outside Travinical 85 and other 84?

>> No.5719928

Disused Reliquary, Ruined Fane and Sewers Level 2 are 85
Forgotten Reliquary, Disused Fane, Ruined Temple, Sewers Level 1 are 84
I've read something about the wrong ends of the Arcane Sanctuary are super chests or something

>> No.5719931

>Apart from this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this,
Don't be such a bitch anon. Zod drops from outer steppes onward and a lot of particular areas beforehand.

>> No.5720306

>NM Baal dropped HoZ
>it's fucking eth

>> No.5720318

There should really be a recipe to unfuck eth uniques.

>> No.5720383

just find a Zod rune :^)

>> No.5720474

You know, its a real shame that mods that add armor never (rarely?) add sprites other than what is in pic related. I suppose that's just a consequence of 2D graphics with smooth animation and tons of rotations. At least there's a fair amount of visual variety in the base game.

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Decided to give the d1 belzebub mod a spin. I noticed this crafting shit showed up after the anvil of fury and I found a few recipe scrolls, but I've not seen a single one of the items on this list apart from the ring itself, does all that not start showing up until higher than normal difficulties or is this part of the mod just incomplete or something?

>> No.5720537

Anyone gives a shit about the upcoming median league here or is it too janky of a mod

>> No.5720542

Just play diablo 3. Skills are equally as nuke-y, but the graphics and gameplay feeling are better. Median is so far from D2 it's crazy.

>> No.5720545

If my luck doesnt start changing d2 by the time the median patch drops, I'll be switching to it at the season start

>> No.5720574

i mean rune ilvl is surprisingly low so you could farm in more places, but rather than just killing mobs for runes it's more efficient to kill many birds with one stone.
with say, Tunnels runs you're also getting gems, chance to get any unique/set item in the game, good eth bases for runewords, exp etc.
LK runs are technically the fastest for getting JUST runes but you sacrifice everything else doing so.
May as well just have fun running the end game spots or doing like >>5719856 says and clear the whole River of Flame -> Chaos or WSK.

>> No.5720749

There should be a lot of recipes more, especially for downgrading runes.

Zod can drop in Hell Cows, so even before Outer Steppes.

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p-pls just give me a vex mister LK

>> No.5721293

You'll easily get a vex in 2-3 hours of proper farming.

>> No.5721414

LK also has the benefit of giving you skillers and uniques if you pop the armor stands.
I've gotten 2 pcombs, fire, near perfect homo and hoz from it last week.
Yes but technically you need to defeat Baal first before accessing cows.

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I-Ive been farming for like 5 hours and I only got a Mal so far

>> No.5721519

>still no best alternative to diablo 2

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Play Diablo 2 mods.

>> No.5721528

Then you're farming like a retard.

>> No.5721545

well uhh got any tips mr smartypants?

>> No.5721613

Watch a youtube guide.

>> No.5721614

Try farming LK in Hell instead of NM

>> No.5721642

except that I'm opening 12 chest per minute you faggot
I'm on Hell

>> No.5721665

Stop lying retard. You'd have like 3 HR and some mid runes in 5 hours with 12 chests per minute.

>> No.5721676

>doesnt understand the concept of RNG

>> No.5721874

>doens't understand the concept of not trying to lie to people that have played hundreds of times longer than him


>> No.5721907

>still doesnt understand the concept of rng
What do you gain from your day to day life? You're in these d2 threads, all day, with an absolute shit attitude everytime you pop your head up.

Have sex unironically. Maybe if you drain your nuts you wont be on edge 24 fucking 7.

>> No.5721937

Except that I'm not and I barely post here. You're just a retard.

>> No.5721971


>> No.5722010

>You're in these d2 threads, all day, with an absolute shit attitude everytime you pop your head up.
Nah, that'd be me.

>> No.5722067

Perfect HoZ and 49 mf War Travs get, wew laddy.
>having a cactus fervently stuck up your ass 24/7

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>advice mr smartypants

get the maphack d2mr and crush hellforge maybe. It takes me 2 hours to get 7 guys through and then pop all the forges in separate games. odds are fairly good on being able to cube a Vex afterwards. It sounds more autistic than it actually is, and is in any case a fuckload less autistic than LK.

you also get a bunch of gems for rerolls and crafting, you can pass the guys through to shenk and get as many holepunches as you need if you want. The ral-ort-tal quests are good for crafting caster amulets and rerolling spirit.

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>> No.5722895

>get hellforge quest with chars
>save and exit
>copy save files
>go to runeforge and do the quests
>get eth rune
>exit and delete the saves
>copy the previous ones
>do quest again
>repeat until 2 guls
>you should get gems as well so cube it o vex

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>eth rune
you rush them to the forge in hell difficulty, dumbshit

>> No.5722934

>I-Ive been farming for like 5 hours and I only got a Mal so far

If single player, just edit yourself the runes you want.

If multiplayer, use a bot to farm.

>> No.5722941

why even play the game at this point?

>> No.5722942

>use a bot
This triggers some people.

>> No.5723085

No you don't. You go to Hellforge and get Gul.

>> No.5723152

not him but Hellforge and Hell Countess I only ever get runes below Ral.
I got an Um once and it was the second highest rune I ever got.

>> No.5723186

and that's how you get converted to solo self-found single-pass

>> No.5723193

Play "real" Rouge-likes like DOOMRL.

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Look what Mr. Meph dropped

>> No.5723738


>> No.5723789

It'd be exceedingly tough to add sprites. The originals were made by taking 3D models in various frames of animation or poses, adding more or less armor to them, and then capturing it for conversion to a sprite. Without the original 3D models, you'd have to make them from scratch, and because they'd be a little off from their originals, it'd be a little jarring.

The models are also done in sections such that the legs, chest, arms, and head are separate sprites. You would have to somehow get the right animation frames for each section if you wanted to use it with the original art, which is why it might be easier to toss out the sprite entirely and start fresh.

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How about this? Dropped it next run.

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Nibba just keeps on giving.

>> No.5724060

How much mf you got?

>> No.5724078

322. Was 380 before I got rid of Nagel and replaced it with SoJ plus removed some 5% mf sc because I needed space to hoard shit faster rather than open the cube.

>> No.5724242

Did the Amazon Basin site ever get reuploaded again? That thing was a huge repository of all sorts of obscure knowledge on the inner workings of stats and skills.

>> No.5724301

Why no runewords for Javelins, Necro totems etc.?

What a wasted potential to upgrade the game and give more use to array of items. Why did Blizzard stopped content patches after 1.10?

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>Why did Blizzard stopped content patches after 1.10?
Starting on their D3, i'd imagine. Sure is a good thing nu-blizzard decided to go against them and scrap it for the masterpiece we have now....

>> No.5724414

how many hours of LK farm for Enigma?

>> No.5724415

that'd be gay,there's already too many runewords in the game

>> No.5724421

Somewhere between 1 and infinite.

>> No.5724432

I mean, you arent wrong. But the majority of them are pretty useless, while the few others are downright mandatory depending on the build (if you're meta-fagging, I mean)

>> No.5724450

unique items are more fun to use (for me)

>> No.5724460

About 3k runs w a 9/10 map so do 100 and figure out how long it takes

>> No.5724504

there's a lot of runewords but the problem with runewords is most of them are shit or too expensive to waste good runes on, so everyone uses the same 6 or 7 runewords.

>> No.5724528

>the majority of them are pretty useless
That seems like a bit of an overstatement that seems to forget about the budget options, particularly ones that open up oddball builds. I think most of the runewords are useful to some degree unless you're approaching insane levels of wealth.

>> No.5724654

playing hc in single – is it autism?

>> No.5724683

HC in general is, but SP is by far the most sane way of going for that challenge.

>> No.5724685

>Hrad core SP
That's what real rogue-likes were like. NOT playing ladder online for bragging rights with bots.

>> No.5724689

The game could always benefit from more runewords. In fact, it may be the case that the gayness might be you. Did you consider that?

>> No.5724695

if you don't believe me there are the various wikis.

>hellforge runes
>Norm El-Amn
>NM Sol-Um
>Hell Hel-Gul
Most importantly there is an even chance of any rune in the range. If you don't get gul outright you can still cube the lower ones to get it. Doing the rush in classic requires rushing through the first 2 acts in hell, which is tough in classic, in order that converted characters be able to join hell games in xpac

You can otherwise do the rush in the expansion if you have a lvl40 bumper to get the party through the baal quests. I am not hot on backing up and restoring characters so I avoid this, but who really gives a shit.

>You're in these d2 threads, all day, with an absolute shit attitude everytime you pop your head up.
reporting in

>> No.5724794

>internet goes to shit

>> No.5724797

no you dumbass,there are already enough runewords in the game,saying that every build should have a runeword weapon is retarded,it is good that some builds use uniques and some use runewords to keep things fun and interesting
also you sound(write) like a faggot

>> No.5724825

you can put Rhyme and Splendor into Necro heads. But I agree that it's a missed opportunity. Though interestingly, while Javelins can't roll sockets, it might be worth noting though that Amazon javelin's are the only class-specific item in the game that you can craft with.
I've also long thought it was a shame that there were no viable runewords for Sorceress orbs. I believe Strength and Wind are the only possible options. and I the sorceress hardly needs to be more powerful, but it may have been nice to have a low runeword that could be put in orbs, wands, and scepters for casters to boost mana or energy without boasting skills.

>> No.5724859

Diablo isn't a roguelike though.

>> No.5724870

more low level normal-tier runewords wouldn't distort the endgame though. It's probably the best place for runewords to be.

>> No.5724931

kk nigga i gree den we got nuff mufuggin runewords hard to do all dem words where da wite wimin at

How am I doing, anon?

>> No.5724935

You forgot *smacks lips*

>> No.5724947

I always thought the game needed more crafted items. They're terribly underutilized, yet so good, especially with a great roll.

It'd be nice to see a way to upgrade the safety/caster/blood/hitpower items or have new sets entirely. Perhaps a way to reroll the stats they got without the expense of making a new one every time.

>> No.5725287

Nothing stopping you from adding them yourself. Modding this game is babby-tier, all you need to do is toss numbers into an excel sheet.

>> No.5725385

I might do it one day then, but I'd have to plan out what I should add and how it'd affect the balance of other items in the game.

Ideally, I'd like a system where we can toss specific items in the cube and make specific magic items as well. For instance, you could add the cruel affix to any weapon by putting in a specific combination of items (Say, a Perfect Ruby, Sol Rune, and Greater Health Potion), or "of the Leech" by a similar method, and you could toss all of those items in with a weapon to get a Cruel Weapon of the Leech. You can kind of do it currently by rerolling vendor stock for hours on end to get an elite weapon or armor with the suffixes you want, but this would be a method specifically for creating the items without the wait.

Perhaps adding in an item that's sort of like a jewel in the sense it rolls with a random affix and using that as the base for the cube creation would work. You'd have to find something like "Scroll of Cruelty" or "Scroll of the Leech" to use as part of the recipe, but you could use basic items to form said scrolls from a cube recipe as well.

After many years of writing off blue items, I tried a HC run where I only used magic rarity items only and found they're actually surprisingly good, making it all the way to NM Baal before I met my end to Lister. I did it mainly as a proof to a friend that you didn't need a horde of unique items and runewords to actually progress through D2.

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>For instance, you could add the cruel affix to any weapon
D3 tier as fuck.

>> No.5725453

I've never played D3 past a couple hours of beta, so I wouldn't know.

As it stands though, I don't think it'd break balance at all, considering vendors already sell Cruel Colossus Blades if you look hard enough. And rares/sets/uniques will probably still be better in most situations just due to the number of stats they have.

>> No.5725464

Oh my apologies, I didn't read properly. Yeah just for magic items would be okay.

>> No.5725573

i get what you mean and it's pretty cool, you'd have to make sure it's balanced well so it doesnt break the game.
also you can already add "of the leech" to swords with a cube recipe as far as I know.
keep in mind some magic items like "+6 javazon skill 40% IAS javelins" or "+5 tornado skiller druid helms" are incredibly rare endgame gear so you'd have to make sure you cant let players make overpowered shit like that by just

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Managed to get Sur in less than 100 runs. Stopped sometime after because it's boring. You're better off in Cows or 85 areas because other shit can drop before you get Jah and Ber. Maybe Cows are the best because there is ton of them and can drop all runes.

>> No.5725605

Also LK can't drop uniques so I prefer 85's. It's good for gems tho, and charms.

>> No.5725707

>farm lk
>fuck i forgot to s/e in act 4
>spend next hour trying to reach kurast docks waypoint

Good job Blizztard North.

>> No.5726129

Those blood crafted items are pretty cool, you can do stuff like put life leech on belts or gloves, where the affix rarely appears. It's a little expensive to make at low levels since it needs a perfect ruby and an amn rune, and lower level characters generate weaker and less bonus affixes, but getting leech on a plated belt can mean you don't have to be so picky with your weapon choice for a long time.

>> No.5726164

Do final item depends on the item type? Meaning is there difference if you use Heavy, Sharkskin or Vampirebone gloves and jewel you found in Normal difficulty? Trying to craft some Javazon blood gloves.

>> No.5726192

Yeah, the final item retains the normal, exceptional, or elite quality. I don't think it retains its base defense value though, so you don't have to try to find a perfect base item.

However, there's two things that DO affect the output item greatly, which is the level of the character you're rolling it on (Higher is better) and the item level of the item you're rolling. For instance, getting an elite set of gloves from nightmare worldstone keep (The earliest you can get them) will have a very low item level despite appearing no different than any other set of gloves, while getting them from an endgame area in hell difficulty will make them have a very high item level. The character's level and the item's level are averaged together to determine how many affixes can be added to the item (I believe it's up to 4 additional ones beyond the specific ones that spawn by the crafted recipe) and what actual affixes can be on the item. So for instance, if you're wanting to get +3 to Javelin skills on something, you'd have to have the average of your character level and the item's level be high enough to actually get that affix (I believe it's 56 for that one specifically).

I believe the actual formula (This is offhand, you'd have to check arreat summit) is something like .85*(cLvl + iLvl)/2. This means at best you can only get up to level 84 affixes on the crafted items you make, excluding I think two or three affixes entirely. I do believe unlike rare items though, you can roll magic-only affixes on the crafted items.

I remember I got an amulet once that had something like "Reduces Damage by 30," that was pretty great. It doesn't sound like much, but unlike percentage damage reduction, there's no limit to how much you can get, reducing damage from most attacks in normal and nightmare to 1 HP.

>> No.5726309

I don't think crafted items can spawn with 3+ to skill trees.

>> No.5726312

Oh, I thought it was +2 to class skills, but I might have it backwards. It's one of the two.

>> No.5726324

you might be able to get 3+ Javelin skills on crafted Amazon javelins, or maybe even 5+ because of the way they work, but aside from that, crafting maxes out at 2+ to any given skill tree as well as the 2+ All on amulets.

>> No.5726325

I'm rolling them on lvl. 91 characters. I get all mats from Hell, but I have a stash of jewels I collected since Normal/Nightmare etc.

>> No.5726604

to make the caster amulets you are either 1 or 2 levels away from optimum, I can't remember. A gambled amulet ranges clvl-5 to clvl+4? The average of the character level and the item level to be 90 or higher to get the +2 skills affix. If you have something to display the item level (plugy may do this?) that will take care of it; you can just discard the low ilvl ammies

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this and SoJ,NM Andy is a cutie!

>> No.5727130

Jealous, beats my laments Grim wand

>> No.5727187

One is actually the best one.

>> No.5727194

Is it worth farming anything on /p1 difficulty? I'm kind of considering dropping bnet and just going single player /p8. My luck has been absolute ass.

>> No.5727212

>Is it worth farming anything on /p1 difficulty?
Pindle. Drops don't change.

>> No.5727249

Countess, her unique rune drop is diminished by her item table at high /p8 settings.
Aside from that, there's no point in running /p8 if you don't have killing speed to match, so when you're starting off at a budget, you might want to keep it at /p3 or /p5, especially if you plan on starting off with dedicated boss runs.

>> No.5727306


It was originally going to be. People call it ironman when you never go back to town. It's incredibly difficult and relies on a lot of luck.

Normally you do a rouge warrior combo. Rouge for traps and ranged attackers, warrior to tank.

>> No.5727352

Well it took 18 years but I finally beat hell Baal

>> No.5727383

>18 years
I too once Patriarched an untwinked concentrate barb. Jokes aside, congrats!

>> No.5727454

Kek now to do NM Andy and LK runs

>> No.5727456

Superuniques like Pindle, Tresh etc. They always drop 2 items.
Make a barb so you can Find Item the corpse after.

>> No.5727478

what are some good builds for running cows besides any sorc builds and javazon

>> No.5727510

could also do well with summon or poison necro as corpse explosion wins there
ele druid of some sort, maybe even fire (fissure?)

>> No.5727882

Why do fishymancer guides online recommend max block? Same as sorc too. Isn't the whole point of those builds to NOT get hit and/or get close to enemies?

>> No.5727946

Expect you to have a homunculus

>> No.5728031

anything that kills huge mobs really really quickly. like other guy said.
stop calling it this.
and why do you even need a guide for a summonmancer?
just put points into skeles, a golem of your choice, 1 point into each curse you want and get a 9-10' radius on CE and you're good. You'll still have 40 something skillpoints leftover to do whatever you want, like Revives, maxxing a golem or bone skills.

>> No.5728063

But what's the point of having max block if you're not going to fight directly anyway?
I don't "need" one, I just wanted to see where people like to put their stat/skill points

>> No.5728071

>I just wanted to see where people like to put their stat/skill points
Most builds get around just fine getting enough str and dex they need for their gear and pumping the rest into vit.

>> No.5728096

I know that, but I've seen people claim to put points into dex for max block for sorcs/necros. That's why I asked why that is.

>> No.5728279

There are only 3 full sprite sets for for each character, no armor, medium and heavy armor. Prerendered from 3D model. All cut down into pieces and mix-matched according to the current wear.
Some gear gives certain pieces a palette swap.

>> No.5728296

Cuz you still get whacked picking up loot or teleing around

>> No.5728301
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fair enough, but the beauty of Necro is that every build is just Corpse Explosion plus points into whatever floats your goat.

main problem with max block is you get stuck in the blocking animation when you could just be running to safety instead. it's why speedrunners always drop their shields at the start of runs because shields will often just get you killed more unless you have good Faster Block Recovery.
but apparently hardcorefags go for max block as an extra line of defense, but i'm not a hcfag so I cant confirm.
Personally if I had to pick for a necro I'd put points into bone armor's synergies and Faster Hit Recovery instead but thats just me

>> No.5728307

Cold bowzon. Quite underrated for cows. Use something fast for main weapon.

>> No.5728371

>There are only 3 full sprite sets for for each character
>All cut down into pieces and mix-matched according to the current wear
That's where the brilliance comes from. It was basically unheard of back in the day to see this much variance on your character. Even today it beats a lot of games.

>> No.5728376

>Even today it beats a lot of games.
Applies to several facets of this game, desu

>> No.5728380

Might have something to do with why we're all still playing it.

>> No.5728436
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>> No.5728507

Necros and Sorcs are shit at defense so max block is perhaps to save you if mob hits manage to pass wall of skellies and give you time to tele out.

Personally I always enough + max vita & no energy.

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>tfw you play summoner for a long time and then switch to new characters but feel sad and weird because you don't have a big group of spooky friends to follow you

>> No.5728524

this but also the weirdness of actually having to press buttons and do stuff to kill mobs instead of just netflix afking until everything's dead.

>> No.5728624

How does /players command really work? Does it immediately change entire game space or just the area you're currently in?

I just entered Travincal and I want to farm it with /p3 but I forgot the command, so it's still on /p1. Reenter takes a second but I want to know.

>> No.5728631

The command affects everything outside the player's interest radius, something like 3 screens wide. Everything inside the radius is already loaded-in and will not be changed, and this also goes for bnet/lan games when people leave and join games.

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should I max out cold mastery or ice bolt for blizzard synergy?

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Cold Mastery allows you to lower monster resistance down to -100%. In general, optimizing how many hard points you want to put into CM depends on how much +skill you get from other items; the better your gear, the more you can put into Ice Bolt instead, as after a certain point points into CM don't do much for you at all. You need 17 points in Cold Mastery to hit -100 resistance, which is the max against monsters with 0 cold resistance.

However, a lot of mobs in Hell that aren't downright immune have around 50% Cold Resistance and bosses like Meph have 75% CR. To maximize damage against Hell Meph, you need 32 skill points in CM.

If you unlock the monster immunity through Lower Resistance curse (from a wand or friendly Necro) or an effect like Conviction (likely from Infinity RW), Cold Mastery lower resistance applies to the mob until the curse or aura effect is gone, but it can't break immunities on its own and has no impact on Cold Immune monsters.

To recap:
>level 17
gives enemies a flat -100 cold res penalty that will maximize your effectiveness against mobs with 0 cold res (this includes ALL the mobs in the popular cold sorc destination, Ancient Tunnels); l
>level 27
will give you -150 cold res, which is enough to maximize damage against Baal and a few end-game mobs (Lister the Tormentor and Minions of Destruction)
>level 32
gives you -175 cold res which will optimize damage against Mephisto's 75 res.

Of course, none of those calculations include Cold facets, Infinity, or similar effects, which effectively reduce your need for Cold Mastery greatly.

The overall answer means that you should figure out your sweet spot, although most efficient Meph runners will likely want to get as close to overall -175 as possible.

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Does anyone have any idea why this is happening?

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rly nigger

>> No.5728910

Right-click My Computer > Properties > Advanced Performance Settings > Data Execution Prevention > Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select > Add Diablo II.exe

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>> No.5728984

Max the spell, then the mastery, then synergies. This is the case here, and pretty much everywhere else in the sorc trees. The particular thing about Buriza-do is people use it for single element because totalling it out is 100 skill points and it scales quite well. If you want another element, Orb makes more sense because it is so much less finnicky; 40 to orb+mastery and 60 to the rest of the build

>> No.5729046

Don't get hit

>> No.5729121

I was going to start a new game and try something different, is there a good way to do a bow barbarian, necromancer, or paladin? I'm thinking I'll stack elemental damage via sockets and affixes, maybe use holy shock as a paladin to add to it further, but necro also has lower resist/amplify damage to enhance his attacks as well.

Any good bows for classes that don't typically use them?

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Don't do necro, only Amp is not enough, you need more because bows are quite underpowered compared to most other weapon types, nerfing yourself even further is just asking for a bad time.

Bow pally is the only one that can get through the difficulties in any reasonable timeframe, because you don't need the physical damage thanks to the holy auras. You should get the fastest bows possible, early on a Zephyr is good, then follow that with a Harmony.

Eventually you could swap to a good unique e.g. upped goldstrike arch or witchwild string. Both of which are capable of giving decent physical damage ontop of the holy X aura.

Best bow would be Faith for the Fanat aura, coupling with holy shock should be great damage. Ice bow would also work well.

FYI this mod makes Passion give +1 strafe instead of berserk to any class. >>5707495

>> No.5729228

I might consider the mod since there's no bow to my knowledge that gives to +oskills. I was thinking bow Assassin might be good too, but it does run into the same issue as the others, lack of damage and lack of way to kill groups with a weapon alone, almost requiring you dip into traps to handle it.

>> No.5729239

Bowmancer with synergized Brand RW is good.

>> No.5729242

>bow Assassin
There is a playthrough like that, on /p8 no less, only uses Shadow Disciplines:

Of course, it's insane.
You could also make an argument for a "hunter" druid who maxes summoning skills, but you get no on-hit abilities from it and your only solace is having a ton of meat to cover up your Heart of Wolverine, probably would have to use a WWS or Atma's Scarab or something.

>> No.5729245

> almost requiring you dip into traps to handle it.
Yeah you could technically make bows work with anything, but you just run into issues of having to favor other skills over the actual bow combat itself. Like necro, you'd just end up taking ages to get one kill with the bow, then CE the whole screen. Sure it works but you can't really say you're using the bow desu

>> No.5729373

Give it to your merc.

>> No.5729391

Meh not really a good merc helm. Tal Rashas is better and cheaper

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>kill Bone Vex
>doesn't drop vex rune

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>another Jah rune from Pit Level 1

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>kill Blood Fist The Impaler
>doesn't drop Bloodfist or The Impaler

>> No.5729694

bow paladin is actually a decent build. max holy fire and it's synergy, then you have a heap of points free to fuck around with something else like Fanaticism, Might or Holy shock or something.

>> No.5729754

who is the CUTEST of these three ladies?

>> No.5729758

boring overpowered poo in loo
aryan amazon goddess

Gee I wonder, it's clearly the Rogue

>> No.5729820

Which Ormus Robes +3 Sorc skills are the only ones worth keeping? Enchant, Meteor, Blizzard and Lighting correct?

>> No.5729840

I fell for the sorceresses are boring poo in the loo meme and when I played her I found out that she's fun to play and a KWEEN

>> No.5730236

Frozen Orb.

>> No.5730269

you can't roll + to level 30 spells on Ormus

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about damn time I get one of these

>> No.5730367

I found a 15 Fire/fireball Ormus on my SP blizz sorc. I can't bring myself to sell it because it's such a neat find even though it's just eating up space.

>> No.5730397

If windows 10 didn't have all the spyware and forced vsync, it would actually be very good. Not being able to disable the vsync is a real issue for me in some cases. Even in exclusive fullscreen in some cases. It's like they purposely screw around with us.

>> No.5730525

Nice find, too bad eschutas is so shit.

>> No.5730548

Where did you find your Tal Rasha armor? AT?

>> No.5730575

i used to trap people in it and laugh til my sides hurt when they raged

>> No.5730604

found a few from based AT runs

>> No.5730612

kek i started watching this, and she isn't even through the den a half hour in. then i noticed it's twenty-six (26) videos ranging from 2.5-10 hours each.

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you're welcome :^)

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you had 1 job, diablo

>> No.5730843

yeah, needless to say the Hell Baal /p8 fight takes over 2 hours for her build. Still props for pulling it off, but I think most people attempting this sort of thing shouldn't be going /p8 in Hell.

>> No.5731037

Never knew or even thought to look it up. I've never had a good ormus, and even a good ormus kind of sucks (only cold is worth it).

>> No.5731123

Where do these d2 youtubers come off?

Can I find a build guide without them casually dropping Enigma like it's a stamina potion? Can I find someone who is "ok this build is great with /p8 if you have Enigma, full inventory of skillers +45 life and tc87 uniques but how about shit gear?"

Who are they making these videos for? Other dozen Holy Shitgrailers?

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Hmmm... make Infinity or wait for another Ber, and make Infinity and Enigma?

>> No.5731148

Sadly D2 balance being what it is very few builds are actually good with minimal gear. Sure you can probably do hell with most classes but the speed differences between a sorc with entry level gear and most other builds is quite massive. The game is also so old that I think most people assume people know their shit and don't need everything step by step, just a general outline of a build to make it.

>> No.5731181

>Where do these d2 youtubers come off?
watch Alara or Llama if you want low-budget gameplay
also most caster builds (and pseudocasters like the javazon) can perform just about the same on high-end gear in principle as on low-end gear, the difference is in killing speed, survivability and mobility. skill and stat investments are generally the same.
also it's easier to gear casters because, in a pinch, all they really require is +skills to achieve killing speed, and the rest is somewhat secondary; meanwhile an untwinked physical dps has to struggle with attack rating, level differences making it hard to hit shit, IAS, weapon damage, possibly giving up block to do damage...
surprisingly few D2 players even know how to manage a character in Hell when nothing good drops (very few people seem to know about vendors selling Cruel elite weapons from time to time, or about Horadric Cube recipes) and a lot of characters who are struggling without good gear also struggle at farming said gear; this is less pronounced when playing a caster because your spells always hit and you can AoE shit down out of enemy vision range while rocking blue items that give +3 to your skills.

also you have to figure out your own threshold for "good". to one person a good build is one that manages to do Hell Baal, for another it's one that beat the entirety of Hell hardcore without skipping any areas, for someone else it's about running Andy/Meph/LK/Cows/a85/CS/WSK fast, for someone it's about farming torches, etc. Most of the D2 content nowadays is produced for people who want to get wealthy, and when your ladder career assumes that the game really starts after your sorc gears up your hammerdin there's no point to writing a guide to a cruel warpike WW barb with some IK pieces, lay on hands and a shitty crafted amulet.

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>1 off from perfect

>> No.5732414

Don't die yet

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>> No.5732830

Because most guides are just people unquestioningly regurgitating what they've heard elsewhere.
When someone suggests putting more than zero points in dex on a fucking skellymancer of all things, that should tip you off that that person didn't actually think about anything they wrote.
If you're gud enough to notice discrepancies like these in a guide, then you also won't benefit from reading how some 14 year old would theoretically build his character if he could advance from nightmare LK.

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>nm LK
Will always be funny. What an idiot.

>> No.5733446

Diablo autists, should I play Diablo 1 with DiabloPatch? Or just the new GOG version?

>> No.5733458

GOG on bnet

>> No.5733471

>When someone suggests putting more than zero points in dex on a fucking skellymancer of all things, that should tip you off that that person didn't actually think about anything they wrote.
I thought about it and budget skellymancer gear (Homunculus, Moser or Rhyme shield) actually isn't really doing anything wrong by taking block

>> No.5733479

any major change mods work with pdm? or am i just going to have to put in normal d2 again.

>> No.5733482

mostly to safeguard against certain projectiles and fast-charging mobs, although there's nothing wrong with going full vita either

>> No.5733939

Mods only work with each other if they are setup as plug-ins. PDM is a data mod, meaning the txt files will overlap with the txt files of other mods. Although you can pretty easily simulate PDM on any mod by setting up magic/rare/unique/set drop rates and manually setting all mins to maxes for every single item and affix. Of course, you can only do this if the mod is open source (e.g. the Medians), although there aren't very many that are.

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>tfw I will never find a good vortex shield

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Found this doing LK runs, a nice find for my uber buff slave.

>> No.5734847

Nice drop for nightmare

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>> No.5735298

What is objectively the best polearm?

>> No.5735316

Eth Obedience Thresher?

>> No.5735326

depends what you're doing.
Obedience is good.
Infinity is nice for breaking Immunes (doesnt work on Poison though)
Insight is great for mana
I like polearms like Kelpie Snare and Woestave, especially if I get Eth and up them. The +75% slow on Kelpie makes boss fights hilariously easy, specially when you stack it with a Holy Freeze merc or Decrepify.

>> No.5735346

I meant the polearm item itself, not the runeword.

>> No.5735830

ah, prob eth thresher then because it's fast and it's strength requirements arent too high.

>> No.5735913

Any other gear besides full Sigon for low level characters up to NM?

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So many dumbass, pointless questions that anyone can figure out with 3 seconds of thought lately.

Whatever fits your skills/class while leveling/has MF/has move speed. If your'e worried about conserving space, then don't bother at all, if not, then just keep everything.

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>> No.5736134

Very nice

>TP tome in the furthest possible slots, deliberately wasting your time

>> No.5736146

>not having TP bound to some mouse key

>> No.5736153

arctic hands/belt & vidala's feet/amulet gives 90% MF plus a bunch of other goodies like IAS and resists.
Angel's Amulet & Ring is basically mandatory for melee builds to actually hit anything.
Sigon shield is OK for the early +skill but again, mix and match 1 or 2 pieces of the set with other sets to get stuff like IAS and MF.
Berserker's is nice for barb, but the helm gives nice fire res and combined with the axe you get like +50% bonus damage and attack rating per lvl which is nice for melee builds too

hell overall you could go full angel's set and fill out the hands/belt/feet with arctic and get some sick fucking stats/bonuses by the end of act 1 normal, with plenty of room left for a lore runeword and ancient's pledge runeword.

>> No.5736156

Think you'll end up using it?

>> No.5736158

>what is TP keybind

>> No.5736203

i've never tried a poison necro before, I might give it a shot but i'll be honest i play single player and it seems like with all the poison immunes it'd be shitty. i guess anything necro with corpse explosion can be great though

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>Chad NM Lower Kurast farmer actually right-clicks his TP book because it's not like he's spending time efficiently anyway

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>> No.5736305

I think Lower Resist can break a lot of poison immunes. And you always have your merc, golem and other curses.

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>> No.5736443

death's web dude here, I am being fucking smiled on today. what do you think boys? templars or tyraels?

>> No.5736446

The one I got a few days ago from chaos was a +1 offensive templars, hoping you get better.

>> No.5736452

+2 templars for me

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Tyrael's for sure, anon! Ganbatte!

>> No.5736532

The damage a necromancer will be taking is going to be pretty much exclusively elemental, partly because it comes as ranged, AoE and piercing, but also because you have bone armor to soak up all physical damage.
Blocking strengthens a specific defense you're already good on by weakening another more general defense that's more critical to you. Don't forget that you're still talking about taking 1-200 point out of VIT in order to reach a decent block chance at level 90+. A max block necro is strictly weaker defensively than a non-block necro.

Blocking would be much more enticing for a wind druid where you have the reverse situation thanks to cyclone armor instead of bone armor, but then you get into the whole issue with block-locking and whether blocking is actually good without also having high defense, or if you would actually be better off doing something else like stacking sol runes and life everlasting on your gear.

>> No.5737427

It's great for pit farming and running cows. To get around poison immunes use lower resist, golem, Merc and corpse explosion

>> No.5737468

Can resist jewels break immunities on their own? How do they function with conviction/lower resist/cold mastery?

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>> No.5737692

Elemental mastery on items like >>5730332 is the same stat as the lightning/fire mastery skills, and lowered resists like >>5736125 is the same as cold mastery, i.e. they can't break immunes but they can lower broken immunities.

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