/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5705691]

What are /vr/'s favorite pinball tables?

[Anonymous No.5705704]

Not video games

[Anonymous No.5705713]

>>5705704
>Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball)
Fuck off retard.

[Anonymous No.5705743]

>>5705704
This post illustrates the sad state of /vr/ these days
We've been inundated by youngling weebs

I like the older pinball machines where the score only goes to the thousands
I don't dig score inflation in mechanical amusements, or level inflation in rpgs

[Anonymous No.5705759]

>>5705743
Yes. These to me are the best pinball tables. Nothing beats an actual table, of course, but Zaccharia Pinball on Steam has a good number of old, good table recreations, and they're fun.

[Anonymous No.5705801]

>>5705691
Twilight Zone.

[Anonymous No.5705856]

Well if we're keeping this even tangentially /vr/ it's the twilight zone.
Nostalgia pick is pic related. It's the first table I could consistently get freeplay on. Almost impossible to hit the outlanes.

[Anonymous No.5705918]

>>5705691
JJP Pirates of the Caribbean is my favorite. I love the characters. I love the structure. I love the toys. I love liar's dice. I love the "spot character" target. I love collecting gold. I love the extra ball shot. I love the starfield on the LE and CE models. I love it all.


How to find pinball and pinball tournaments in your area:
US, Canada, Australia, Japan, Finland, London
https://pinballmap.com/
Worldwide:
https://pinside.com/pinball/map
Europe:
https://findapinball.com/en/

Tournaments:
Depending on where you live, there may be a facebook group for fans in your area.
Pinball Simulators that will give you a free virtual pin or two as a sample:
Pinball Fx 3 (Sorcerer's Lair, Fish Tales)
Zaccaria (Time Machine)
Pinball Arcade (Mary Shelley's Frankenstein)
Stern Pinball Arcade (Also Frankenstein)

[Anonymous No.5705990]

>>5705801

Is this truly the most "complex" pinball ever made?

[Anonymous No.5706002]

Banzai Run fuckin RULES

[Anonymous No.5706074]

I'm partial to Judge Dredd just because I love the source material so much but one I'm really surprised me with how fun it is is Star Trek Next Generation
Also update, got the playfield monitor for my VPX table.

[Anonymous No.5706076]

>>5705918

[Anonymous No.5706147]

>>5705691
1. FunHouse
2. Terminator 2: Judgment Day
3. Medieval Madness
4. Black Knight
5. Black Knight 2000

Can't go without also mentioning High Speed, Creature From The Black Lagoon (if only because of its artwork), and Star Trek: The Next Generation.

>>5706074
Star Trek: The Next Generation is amazing. I played it as a kid and while I'm not a Star Trek fan I enjoyed the crap out of that table.

[Anonymous No.5706169]

>>5706147
It really surprised me. The modes are fun, I love that they got a ton of different actors doing the callouts and the probe launchers are so satisfying when you nail the shot.

[Anonymous No.5706192]

>>5706147
Well that makes me wonder if you've played Black Knight: Sword of Rage yet, and what you thought of it.

[Anonymous No.5706196]

Dudes, is that Akira pinball game on PS1 any good?

[Anonymous No.5706338]

>>5705801
This

[Anonymous No.5706341]

Has anyone ever experimented on controlling a real physical pinball machine over the internet rather than using simulations?

[Anonymous No.5706373]

>>5705691
Black Knight 2000
https://youtu.be/fCKDvjVzpNQ

[Anonymous No.5706412]

I've purchased Black Knight: Sword of Rage, Limited Edition, last week. If you have any questions about the pinball, I'll try to my best to answer.

>>5706002
Hell yes anon. My father has one and it's still so fucking fun!

>>5706074
How is this table? I've heard negative reviews because people don't seem to really understand the rules.

[Anonymous No.5706581]

>>5706192
I didn't even know this existed until right now and now I have to play it asap.

[Anonymous No.5706734]

>>5706412
Judge Dredd? I think it's a lot of fun especially if you enjoy the source material. The callouts are funny, it's got the same tongue and cheek attitude that the comics have. As for the rules you definitely have to put some time into it, they rules aren't confusing or difficult but they aren't intuitive if that makes since. The rules are simple but the game just does a poor job of conveying them.

[Anonymous No.5707990]

Pinball music (public domain is the best domain):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MeCUM7dc7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD106o-2UoE

Lexy Lightspeed is a pinball machine with a ball-sensing LCD screen built into the playfield. Some people in this thread probably haven't heard of it. I've played it and it's great. Here's the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66WGw-q_3Yg

[Anonymous No.5709875]

Elvira, easy.

[Anonymous No.5709943]

Come on you apes, you wanna live forever??

[Anonymous No.5710164]

>>5709875
There are actually two Elvira pins, soon to be three. They're both great. Are you thinking of this one or the other one?

[Anonymous No.5710186]

>>5705691
Black Knight 2000 and Addams Family.

[Anonymous No.5710214]

Reminder that Black Knight 2000 is a bad game with a good soundtrack that posers clamor about to pretend they care about pinball. There are plenty of better sys11 games out there.

>>5705918
Easily the best game released in the past 10 years or so. I wish more designers put this much love into their games.

[Anonymous No.5710761]

Women-lib. No one in the world has one, so far as I know. One guy in Japan has a backbox.

[Anonymous No.5711070]

>>5707990
I want to know how Data East got the audio quality of Star Wars so good in 1992. Even the audio clips and sound effects are crisper and less mangled than some of their contemporaries, like Addams Family.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pk-Zz1G_X8

[Anonymous No.5711081]

>>5706147
Rudy can suck it but I do love funhouse.
The bar I frequent and my wife is employed at has it and just got phantom of the opera the soundtrack is amazing.

[Anonymous No.5711268]

>>5705990
Who knows? But what it DOES have is amazing themeing for its modes and a great soundtrack. It's just such a thrill ride to play, if you can get good enough to get to the modes.
>you have come to the end of your journey
>survival. Is. Everything.

[Anonymous No.5711275]

>>5710214
What the fuck is that?

[Anonymous No.5711290]

When I was younger, my mom brought home an entire Toy Story Pinball machine. I loved that thing.

[Anonymous No.5711723]

Is it better to buy one expensive pinball or two cheaper ones?

[Anonymous No.5711809]

>>5711723
That depends on how much space you have in your house.

[Anonymous No.5712078]

>>5711809
As much space as needed.
Fuck lcd pins though, I find dot matrix really cool.

[Anonymous No.5712213]

I never played it but I find this Superman from Atari gorgeous

[Anonymous No.5712239]

Even though it's pretty standard for a pinball machine, I've had endless hours of fun playing F-14

[Anonymous No.5712420]

My top 3 are

Medieval Madness
Star Trek TNG
Twilight Zone

[Anonymous No.5712514]

>>5705691
Top five of the ones I played:
1. Arabian nights (pic related)
2. Monster Bash
3. Medieval Madness
4. Cactus Canyon
5. Judge Dredd

[Anonymous No.5712972]

>>5712078
Well you can get some DMD pins for 3500 or sometimes 2500 dollars. I've never played Breakshot, but I'm always surprised by how cheap they seem to be. 3000 dollars at maximum. And it looks fun.

Everyone says not to buy on eBay, so be forewarned. I guess that leaves pinside and craigslist. I don't know, I've never bought a pinball machine.

>>5712213
I've played it. Not enough to develop an opinion of it. It's really wide. Here's some pinball art from Franchi, for a theoretical machine.

[Anonymous No.5713195]

>>5711723
It's a bit of an arbitrary question to ask without looking at what's available. Doesn't matter if you own one expensive game if you don't like it. Same with two cheaper games. Find a machine or two nearby that you think you'll like first and then answer that question. Variety is important for owning multiple machines, too; consider something like one long-playing game and one short-playing game if you have multiple so you can go to the other for a bit if you get bored of one.

[Anonymous No.5713445]

>>5712972
There's a Judge Dredd ~20 minutes from me for 2500€.
I don't think I'll be getting it since I purchased the new Black Knight LE last week.

[Anonymous No.5714620]

>>5710164
the other one with the weird plastic finger puppet monsters

[Anonymous No.5714632]

>>5714620
Well Scared Stiff is great too.

[Anonymous No.5714669]

The only place near me with pinball machines is this barcade called Up/Down. Places like that aren't usually my scene but there is a music venue upstairs so I'll play a few rounds of South Park pinball between bands if I'm there.

[Anonymous No.5715247]

>>5714669
Have you checked pinballmap.com for other places?

I dreamed I was playing JJP PotC and the whole pin was rocking back and forth and I could feel the sea breeze blow past me and it was great.

[Anonymous No.5715405]

In no real order.

Scared Stiff
Twilight Zone
The Who's Tommy Pinball Wizard
Medieval Madness
Tales of the Arabian Nights

[Anonymous No.5715658]

>>5705918
JJP makes some amazing things, my biggest regret with pinball that LOTR will never be culturally relevant enough again to get JJP to make their own lotr game with a different layout than The Hobbit

[Anonymous No.5715659]

Twilight Zone is my all-time favorite but I have alot of love for White Water for being a shitshow most of the time.

[Anonymous No.5715748]

>>5711275
Transporter: The Rescue. It's decent, but not amazing.

[Anonymous No.5715850]

Whirlwind
Taxi
South Park
Addams Family

I've been playing a lot of the LOTR table over breaks at work.

[Anonymous No.5717080]

JJP Pirates of the Caribbean characters explained.

>>5715658
Maybe Spooky will make a silmarillion game. It could happen.

[Anonymous No.5718183]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Stern games for having way too many modes, secrets, and video screen polish instead of just being straightforward to learn but addictive to master like older games?

[Anonymous No.5718453]

I used to like to play a Bram Stokers Dracula machine that was at a local beach
it's one of few machines I ever played. it would be nice to try a KISS machine

[Anonymous No.5718482]

>>5718183
nope im in the same club, 80s is peak for me and a couple 90s but nothing tops the addictive qualities of the 70s tables and im a 30 yr old who got into pinball late 20s, shit like the getaway was perfect balance of complexity and simplicity imo

[Anonymous No.5718582]

Do you think Bride of Pinbot could be "fixed" by just making the billion something like 20 million instead? I played a good amount of it tonight and really thought about how cool the lower playfield layout with the loops is, but there's no reason to aim at anything but the space shuttle.

[Anonymous No.5718605]

We have a Flintstones table at work. We play against each other p much every lunch break.

[Anonymous No.5718614]

>>5718582
yep could be rebalanced, shit table cus of it.

[Anonymous No.5718616]

[Anonymous No.5718619]

>>5715405
I saw Tommy on Broadway and they had these machines set up, it was pretty cool.

Anyway I haven't seen many pinball machines but I have played Pinball Action, and it's one of my favorite arcade games, if that counts.

[Anonymous No.5718895]

Is it weird I prefer Pinball Arcades real life Williams tables over Pinball FX3's?

[Anonymous No.5719756]

>>5718582
There's an option to disable the billion shot in the adjustments menu. The 50 million wheel award just takes its place as the unbalancing random feature, though. Bride of Pinbot 2.0 is a thing that happened, I guess, though the manufacturer crashed and burned a while ago.

>>5718183
They're definitely afraid to innovate instead of just do the same "stack modes with multiball and playfield multipliers" garbage. Makes every game feel the same. Stern games have awful build quality, too; I hate how their flippers feel so much.

[Anonymous No.5719876]

>>5718183
I'm more upset about how every single Stern layout feels the same. Even when they aren't outright using the exact same layout as a previous game, i.e Dark Knight/Batman 66, they still have the exact same feel as previous tables.
>but the fan layout is the only option for a two flipper table
Then make something else

[Anonymous No.5720004]

>>5719876
It's pretty incredible how Iron Maiden managed to come out so samey despite having two upper flippers. All it was missing was a bash toy with a magnet in front of it and it would've been an exact carbon copy of every other game they've made recently.
I do miss when novel playfield layouts like Paragon or Space Station were more common. Hell, Stern used to make a ton of those designs themselves; the old Iron Maiden is a good example, ironically.

[Anonymous No.5720123]

There was a fishing themed one I really liked as a kid, don't remember anything else about it though.

[Anonymous No.5720171]

>>5720123
You're thinking of Fish Tales. It's a good game.

[Anonymous No.5721804]

>>5720171
Only played this one on the FX3 on switch. Loved it despite input lag

[Anonymous No.5721809]

What makes dot matrix display so absolutely fucking charming?

[Anonymous No.5721827]

>>5711809
This looks fucking cool.
I would really love to play it.

If you ever go to Budapest I can highly recommend the Pinball museum. Probably the best thing to do in all of Budapest. You pay some entrance fee and then you can play as much as you want for your entire stay. First my GF didn't want to come. She doesn't like pinball and think it's stupid but then she ended up having fun with the Super Mario Pinball.

>https://youtu.be/Of83gHvwCEI

>http://www.flippermuzeum.hu/en/

Did you know that MAD Magazine's Sergio Aeroganes (or however you spell him) is an avid Pinball collector?

I have a hard time answering what my favourite is but probably Revenge From Mars (pic related). I remember playing at as a child on vacations in Spain when it just came out and I just love the art work of it. The Simpsons one is actually not bad either.

[Anonymous No.5721838]

>>5721827
>If you ever go to Budapest I can highly recommend the Pinball museum
Well fuck, I went to Budapest a few years ago and all I did was drink good yet cheap beer and hang out with the local skinheads.
Why don't the guides tell you about this?

[Anonymous No.5722351]

>>5721809
I always liked alphanumeric displays more. Some of the last DMD games to come out (like Tron and Ghostbusters) were absolutely hideous to look at because Stern doesn't want to hire actual artists to work on their games. I swear that LCD games could be decent if the designers would put more than the minimum amount of effort into them.

[Anonymous No.5722793]

The Hobbit is my current top pick despite its mixed reception. The theme integration is one of the best I've ever experienced, the callouts/choreography really help learning players get a grasp of the decently expansive ruleset, and IMO is probably the best use of LCD screen space with most or all of the info you need/want about your status always available with relevant movie scenes playing during book modes/Smaug multiball/Arkenstone modes. I got one a year ago and still haven't seen everything it has to offer yet.
Number 2 for me right now is Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle. I loved the fact that it feels more like a story-driven theme than a band one. Exploring the castle and battling monsters felt incredibly satisfying.
After that my current top picks are The Getaway, Firepower, and Gladiators.

[Anonymous No.5722825]

>>5705691
the lord of the rings machine, also the terminator machine

[Anonymous No.5722846]

>>5705691
I don't play enough pinball to have a favorite, but I've seen some pinball art that stuck in my memory.

[Anonymous No.5722870]

Monster Bash. Surprised at such little love

[Anonymous No.5722881]

>>5705691
When I pin my balls to your mums forehead m8

[Anonymous No.5722892]

>>5705691
I didn't really have a favorite as I just tended to play just what was new at the time, Adams Family sticks with me though for some reason

pic related was my favorite computer pinball tho

[Anonymous No.5723047]

>>5722846
Obligatory pic related.

RIP Python Anghelo. Artist and designer. He did mechanical designs and everything. He died in 2014. Crazy Cat. Gone but not forgotten
Pinbot, Bride of Pinbot, Taxi, and High Speed's backglass. And many others.
https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/python-anghelo

[Anonymous No.5723097]

>>5714620
scared stiff has the finger puppet monsters right by the flippers

[Anonymous No.5723138]

>>5723097
Yeah, but you know what he meant. My favorites, one for each five year period:
1966-1970: Apollo / Blast Off
1971-1975: Don't really have one. Zodiac / Planets is cool
1976-1980: Prospector. Or Harlem Globetrotters
1981-1985: Uhhh... Centaur?
1986-1990: Earthshaker or Black Knight 2000.
1991-1995: Probably Getaway
1996-2000: Lots of good games. I guess Monster Bash
2001-2005: Playboy
2006-2010: Spider-man
2011-2015: Star Trek or Wizard of Oz
2016-now: JJP Pirates of the Caribbean

[Anonymous No.5723168]

I'll be going to the Pacific Pinball Museum with my gf soon. If I'm allowed to take pics I'll post them here.

The museum is in Alameda, in the San Francisco Bay Area for anyone curious.

But to answer the OP question: Super Mario Bros 3 for nostalgia reasons. I haven't played a ton though, I do know the museum has some free play machines, so that nice at least.

[Anonymous No.5723398]

There isn't nearly enough Alien Poker love in this thread. Life is a pair of scissor flippers.

[Anonymous No.5723418]

>>5723398
>ywn gamble your life savings away with ayy lmaos on a cool space station and get shot out the airlock for counting cards

[Anonymous No.5723428]

>>5706373
>>5707990
>>5711070
Post more pinball bangers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUFLBEFaB78

[Anonymous No.5723449]

>>5723428
I've been finding a few of the late 80s/early 90s Gottlieb games recently, and they have some excellent music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2u33Lj9jK8
This is at a bowling alley near me with the sound cranked way up, fantastic bass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_YkJoAq5hQ
And I finally got to play one of these. I was so captivated by it, I must have played 20 games straight, and it might have my single favorite pinball tune ever (music starts at 1:11).

[Anonymous No.5723541]

>>5711070
Addams Family was still using the old WMS sound hardware. They didn't introduce their DCS sound system until 1993.

[Anonymous No.5723772]

>>5723168
Yes, you're allowed to take pics. You pay admission to the museum and all the machines are on free play. They do have a few machines at the front that use quarters for people who only have time for a few games and don't want to pay the whole admission fee.

The Super Mario Bros pinball machines were the first mario games Charles Martinet voiced by release date.

There's a league night on Wednesdays. It runs for a while and then takes some time off and then comes back.
https://www.pacificpinball.org/pinball-league

Tuesdays are 2 for 20 dollars. Closed on mondays.

[Anonymous No.5723885]

I can't say I'm a real pinball fan, the number of times I saw (and played) on real tables can be count on two hands. Even searching on the internet, there are no places with more than 2 tables near me, and by near me I mean taking less than an 1 hour drive. So I have to resort to video game pinball.

And so far, I love Banzai Run, Diner and Safe Cracker, along with some Zaccaria tables. High Speed will always have a soft spot in my heart because I played the NES video game, even if it's not exactly the same.

[Anonymous No.5724815]

I love threads like this, because someone always posts obscure games I hadn't heard of, but that are usually available on visual pinball to try. Shame that >>5715748 isn't too well represented on that front, but >>5723449 looks really well done, and it's vpx too. I'm gonna play the fuck out of this.

[Anonymous No.5724873]

>>5724815
If you haven't done a lot of digging yet, the twilight years of Bally Midway have probably my favorite "obscure" machines, with lots of weird layouts and innovations that were trying to keep the company from going under. Escape from the Lost World, Blackwater 100, Dungeons & Dragons, and Black Belt are all pretty cool machines.

[Anonymous No.5724903]

>>5724873
Blackwater 100 kicks ass. Great layout, and I love that starting gate gimmick.

I love these obscure, somewhat unpopular games too. They get a lot of flack for being lesser games, and sometimes they can be kinda crap (I found a Gottlieb "Arena" recently, cool concept ruined by it being a one-shot game), but it's always a treat to find them on location. Medieval Madness and Monster Bash are certainly excellent, but I'm sure I've seen them each about 20 times. Finding a weird pre-merger Bally game is exciting.

[Anonymous No.5725065]

>>5724903
Gottlieb/Premier games especially get a bad rap for being lesser and cheap, though they really aren't all that bad. They can be pretty fun. They're a pain in the ass to own/operate, though; you can't dig up manuals or schematics online like you can with other companies because the copyright holder protects them like a hawk. I know this from having owned a Waterworld in the past, which is ironically pretty interesting to play.
Still, I'll always play a Hot Shots if I find one on location before I play a Monster Bash. I don't think there's really such a thing as a bad pinball machine.

[Anonymous No.5725087]

>>5724873
Dungeons and Dragons is one of my all time favorite tables and I think its a great untapped
theme that would make for a great new one

[Anonymous No.5725158]

>>5725087
I can see there being a market for a new Dungeons & Dragons game. I'd be in for sure if it meant there would be another game with Magic Save lanes.

>>5725065
Also, I want to amend this post to say that Dialed In sucks. Munsters and every other cookie-cutter Stern does, too. Otherwise, there's no such thing as a bad pinball machine.

[Anonymous No.5725576]

>>5723885
I wonder how Banzai Run plays on a computer, since a good chunk of the fun is the physics of the ball in the vertical playfield.

>>5725158
>Otherwise, there's no such thing as a bad pinball machine
What about the Conan pinball?

[Anonymous No.5725579]

>>5725576
>conan
Shit I mean Hercules.

[Anonymous No.5725630]

>>5725579
You're probably looking at the Pinside Top 100 and reading people say "oh! big table! it's so slow and bad!" but are you really meaning to tell me that you wouldn't drop a couple of quarters into a game that's as big as the bed you sleep in? It's a fantastic novelty and a feat of engineering.
You can have a lot of fun with really any pinball machine; I'm a lot harder on newer games though since we should really know better at this point than to keep making incredibly dull games.

[Anonymous No.5725683]

>>5724873
This is part of what really pissed me off about TPA losing the Bally Williams stuff to fucking FX. Not only do we have to wait on them to crank out the meat and potatoes standard machines everyone has played, but they add in those FUCKING STUPID unnecessary and annoying animated models. TPA was just starting to get a decent set of games and digging into more obscure stuff. At least we always have VPX.

[Anonymous No.5725835]

>>5725630
Yeah if I used pinside's general opinion as advice I'd have never actually given The Hobbit a fair shake and it never would have become one of my favorite pins.

[Anonymous No.5726008]

>>5725835
"Never listen to what Pinside says" is pretty solid advice. They're a demented hivemind on everything from game prices to fun, though they can give some nice tech advice if you specifically ask for it.

>>5725683
Farsight did such a horrible job with keeping their tables up to date (the sounds are so ugly and the physics can get real janky sometimes), but I'm still sad that they lost the licenses. It was really nice seeing games like Paragon and Doctor Who being preserved digitally. Anything digital also helps to introduce people to the hobby, since of course some people don't have any games to play locally.

[Anonymous No.5726017]

>>5726008
I wouldn't have ever given two shakes to Monster Bash had I not gotten it in their season bundle during a sale. I'm glad I did so.

[Anonymous No.5726059]

>>5726017
You never would've played Monster Bash? Attack from Mars, Medieval Madness, and Monster Bash together make up what are usually regarded as the best games ever made. I wouldn't necessarily agree, though I always thought that made them worth trying.

[Anonymous No.5726086]

>>5726059
No local arcades

[Anonymous No.5727115]

>>5725683
the animated shit is optional though and theyre still outputting tables at a faster rate than PBA ever did

[Anonymous No.5727518]

>>5727115
Only 13 games filled with obnoxious optional crap that literally nobody asked for. I don't care if you can turn it off, it shouldn't be there to begin with. About the only good thing to come out of this is that MAYBE now we'll see more obscure gotliebs like Ready Aim Fire, because I feel like we'll be waiting for basic shit like Black Knight 2000 on FX for a long while.

[Anonymous No.5727535]

A little bit beaten up, but it's still working

[Anonymous No.5727539]

>>5727535
Ooof, I guess if it's still at least working that's good, but damn it needs some paint.

[Anonymous No.5727568]

Does anyone here have the vpx version of World Cup 94?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIAOMlUa_Oo

[Anonymous No.5727585]

>>5726086
Often times people post this and I find out there is in fact an arcade with pinball close to where they live. Not always, but sometime.

Here are some poorly ranked pinball machines I really dig:
Playboy (Stern)
Wheel of Fortune
Genesis

Genesis is sort of enjoyable in the way Clue or Con Air are enjoyable. They're just really good bad movies, and Genesis is a really good bad pinball machine.

PS: The New Willy Wonka pinball machine gives you a bonus or achievement or something for scrolling through the entire info menu, I heard. I love it! Not sure about that, just something I heard.

[Anonymous No.5727757]

>>5727585
WoF is poorly ranked? I've been playing that quite a bit recently and think it's one of the more creative of the pre-2011 Sterns, which overall I think aren't so hot. It's a good layout and the integration of the game show's "more letters multiply the payout" feature is cool. The worst I can say about WoF is that one of the contestants sounds like a colossal retard.

[Anonymous No.5727850]

>>5727585
>>5727757
I have huge nostalgia for Data East Star Wars, even if it's set up poorly and ramp (singular) is pretty much the easiest way to get any points at all. But dammit, she's just so beautiful and has all the bells and whistles to make you go "this is art".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v83p6_itYrg

[Anonymous No.5727856]

I went and played Wonka today expecting to hate it but ended up enjoying it. It's certainly not my favorite game ever made (doesn't even hold a candle to Pirates), but it's not horrible.

>>5727585
The game has a bunch of "gumball" achievements that you can get for various things. Scrolling through the status report is one of them; getting two tilt warnings is another. Getting enough gumballs lights a golden ticket. Interesting feature.

>>5727757
The theme/integration is really dull, but the game's good. I've never heard of anybody outright hating it unless they lose a tournament playing it.

[Anonymous No.5727859]

>>5727850
Somebody actually made a homebrew code update for Data East Star Wars that makes the scoring more balanced (i.e. you don't just shoot the ramp all day). If you have one somewhere local, you might be able to talk them into getting it.

[Anonymous No.5727864]

>>5727850
A place near me has one of those with the sound cranked through the fucking roof. Data East games go nuclear when you start getting jackpots, absolutely explosive sound design.

[Anonymous No.5727965]

>>5727568
Apparently if you join the VP Junkies facebook group they have it but I'd rather do without then join some elitist mom group like that

[Anonymous No.5727998]

I like Junk Yard.

[Anonymous No.5728001]

>>5727864
GREAT SHOT KID THAT'S ONE IN A MILLION [WOOKIE NOISES]

[Anonymous No.5728121]

RANDOM BACKGLASS DUMP

[Anonymous No.5728126]

>>5728121

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[Anonymous No.5728131]

>>5728126
>>5728121
This machine is attractive, and I'd like to feed quarters to it.

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[Anonymous No.5728192]

>>5728143
>take her from behind
>the fish turn around and stare at you the whole time

[Anonymous No.5728276]

>>5728134
Look at what she's holding! She's the ringmaster in disguise!

There's a fan-made code update that adds a Simon Says video mode to CV. And some other stuff.

Pinbot and The Bride are my "OTP"

[Anonymous No.5728303]

>>5727965
I want it badly so I'll at least check that out. Then I'll upload it to my mega if someone else needs it. Thanks for the decent tip anon

[Anonymous No.5728319]

>>5728276
Have you played Magic Girl?
Looked at least artistically interesting, and I doubt I'll ever find this machine out there in the wild.

[Anonymous No.5728587]

NO GOOD GOPHERS

>Hey Bud some of these faggots are talking about pinball without us
>Why do you care what some sticks say Buzz

[Anonymous No.5728945]

I have a soft spot for games that keep track of things like the jackpot value on the backglass.

[Anonymous No.5730729]

>>5728587
Could they not license Caddyshack?

[Anonymous No.5731508]

>>5728276
>>5728319
I'd love to play even a virtual version of Magical Girl

[Anonymous No.5731670]

>>5731508
>>5728319
For those who don't know, Deeproot pinball is going to produce Magic Girl sometime soon.

[Anonymous No.5731710]

Probably nothing that hasn't already been said but...

1.Addams Family
2.Funhouse
3.Elvira
4.T2
5.Creature From the Black Lagoon

I want to say there was a Gremlins 2 table but I might be imagining it. The Twilight Zone table is great too.

[Anonymous No.5731757]

>>5731710
>Creature
MOVE YOUR CAR is still one of my favorite pinball moments. I nearly fell over laughing when it showed up in Theatre of Magic.

[Anonymous No.5731771]

>>5705691
I prefer skee ball and other bowling/shuffle board coin ops like a true patrician

[Anonymous No.5731938]

>>5705856
>Twilight zone
High taste. It's one of my favorites of my collection.

[Anonymous No.5732473]

>>5725065
>>5724903
I played Big House, Title Fight, and Silver Slugger recently and I was surprised. They had some interesting gameplay mechanics that you didn't really see on other machines at the time.

[Anonymous No.5732887]

just got a 1.2 million point score on Firepower during a stream, then had myself a 788 million point game on Gladiators and reached monster bash on my 2nd run of Monster Bash.

[Anonymous No.5732894]

[Anonymous No.5733014]

I don't enjoy Twilight Zone as much as I feel like I should. On paper, it's my favorite game ever made - it's a widebody game with a killer license. It was definitely my favorite starting out, but my interest has faded over time. Something about shooting nothing but easy shots for multiball with some lame scoring modes in-between puts me off. Doesn't help that it's played to death in tournaments and that basically every Data East game ever tries to copy it, though that doesn't mean it's a bad game.

[Anonymous No.5733040]

>>5733014
TZ is great, but it's not as exciting to me as some of the other "greatest hits" games. AFM, MM and MB are much more fun for me, and I think I might even like Addams a bit more, when it comes to the two most popular ones.

TZ kinda feels like an "Addams 2" that, while great, doesn't really blow Addams away as an incredible improvement.

Of course none of this really matters when the best Pat Lawlor game of the 90s appeared as soon as the decade began.

[Anonymous No.5733060]

>>5705990
It's not even deep, it's wide.

[Anonymous No.5733068]

>>5733060
When are we going to get Haunted House 2 with two "under" playfields, the second underneath the first?

[Anonymous No.5733069]

>>5706192
I've played that shit. Premium or LE, can't say. Waited on line for fucking ever, these ass clowns in front of me kept taking multiple turns. Filled me with the titular rage.

They turned and "offered" me a chance to get in on the next multiplayer game, taking themselves another turn in the process. Stepped up and fucking destroyed them. Do you understand. I'm humping that shit, bumping the ball up to the top flipper so I can nail that knight's stronghold. Nailing the lower lock shot too. Starting all those modes. 36,000,000 on the first ball.

So then Steve Ritchie walks up behind me to sign the machine. Pointed out a machine he likes. The embarrassed opponents fled, abandoning their remaining balls in the face of my insurmountable lead. He SAW them, you see.

[Anonymous No.5733072]

>>5715658
You can't make another LotR because George Gomez heads design at Stern and Pinball Kiefer programs at JJP.

You can get another Medieval Madness because guess what motherfucker, Lyman F. Sheats Jr. lives and Brian Eddy has come back to design a game for Stern.

[Anonymous No.5733076]

>>5706192
I'll need to play this more, I've only played a bit and couldn't say much more about the rules than "they're good, I liked it"

The musical and overall style got my soul burning white hot, though. Imagine, an Iron Maiden game isn't even the most metal pinball to be recently released.

[Anonymous No.5733080]

>>5722870
Because no one actually likes it. They put the remake up against 3 Munsters pins and Munsters had lines on every one while Monster Bash went unplayed. They didn't even care enough to level it, though, so maybe that's it.

Fuck playing it if the sound's off though, if I'm going to mini wizard that thing I want to rock out.

[Anonymous No.5733105]

>>5733040
While I generally prefer games with more than two flippers, Indiana Jones is a game from the same era that plays fairly similar and I like it a lot more somehow. Maybe it's that the multiballs are more complex, or maybe it's because there's less stop-and-go. I don't know.
>Whirlwind
I'll drink to that. I can't think of a lot of shots that feel as good to hit as that side ramp.

>>5733072
>Stern
>The next Medieval Madness
lol

>>5733080
That might just be because everybody has already played Monster Bash to death already while Munsters is still pretty new and is based on an existing license. I'd absolutely call Monster Bash the superior game, though I still hate it on the merit that you're waiting 10 seconds for the ball to return if the ball doesn't go all of the way up the left ramp.

[Anonymous No.5733119]

>>5733105
I don't know, the Universal Monsters are at least as if not more recognizable than The Munsters.

I just realized it's not that easy to think of a classic horror (or at least classic light/comedy horror) license that DOESN'T have a pinball game. What's the biggest one that should be done?

[Anonymous No.5733170]

>>5733119
King Kong had a 1990s Date East pin but it was never mass produced. Here's the prototype.

[Anonymous No.5733171]

>>5722892
I got this, Timeshock and Fantastic Voyage for my old powermac.
Runs great, they're really fun.

[Anonymous No.5733172]

>>5733119
>>5733170
And here's the backglass.

[Anonymous No.5733175]

>>5733040
"Uh-oh, looks like rain!"

[Anonymous No.5733179]

>>5733175
HERE IT COOOOOOOOOOMES

[Anonymous No.5733232]

>>5733105
You think Brian Eddy will program his table entirely by himself while also designing it, like he did for The Shadow? Another Shadow then. But like Lyman said during design of Attack from Mars, fuck off and design the table and I'll design the software. Or you could just talk out your ass on an imageboard. I'll be playing their new table within the year. You'll still be a homosexuality.

[Anonymous No.5733308]

>>5733232
You're failing to understand that it takes a lot more than a good designer and a good programmer to make a good pinball table. Stern has proved time and time again that it's not willing to spend more than the bare minimum on art, sound, and mechanics. Lyman could be the best damn programmer on the planet, but he isn't saving The Walking Dead from looking like a third-grader's photoshop project. When has Stern ever managed to capture the feeling of getting a super jackpot in Attack from Mars and having the game scream at you? Maybe you'd laugh and clap your hands when watching Batman 66 replay clips from the TV show if you're a troglodyte, but most of us aren't.
Also, Brian Eddy has designed three games. If you consider that Attack from Mars and Medieval Madness are the same game, Brian Eddy has designed two games. In no universe is that a guarantee that his next game is going to automatically be good. Steve Richie started out making games like Firepower and High Speed, but now he just makes duds like Star Wars.
>You'll still be a homosexuality.
Are you having a stroke?

[Anonymous No.5733965]

>>5733308
In fucking Spiderman (2007) and its re-release with premium Ultimate Spiderman artwork you fucking nonce. Programmed by Lyman, designed by Steve Ritchie. Could you have picked a more facile game to compare it to than Attack from Mars, which Eddy specifically gave them permission to use the 3-bank from on the Sandman? Mars has no fucking Steve Ritchie ramp shot like the Venom ramp. Fuck off with that shit, Spiderman is champion.

[Anonymous No.5733967]

>>5733308
Also, fuck you because AC/DC Premium by Lyman and Steve again is one of the best pinballs of the 21st century. Everyone knows it. You just pretend it isn't true. Pony up the cash, fagboy, because the real designers don't phone it in like your precious John Borg and design a shoddy "Pro". They design a Premium / LE like Steve does. If you're poor then it's your own fault.

[Anonymous No.5733971]

>>5733308
You can't even afford 6 bits to play the Sword of Rage and feel Steve inside you. Stick to those rent boys who do it for less.

[Anonymous No.5734352]

>>5733965
>>5733967
>>5733971
Aw, did I strike a nerve? Did I insult Steve Richie, your most favoritest game designer in the whole wide world? You're going to have to face it, nobody gets a free pass for being a good designer. If you wasted $8k on a Sword of Rage premium and are trying to justify that pathetic excuse for an upper playfield to quell your buyer's remorse, that's your own damn problem.
You're an actual brainlet. The industry would be a lot better off today if there weren't people like you who will ram Stern's pathetic shriveled cock down their throats and praise every horrible decision they make, like shipping unfinished and literally unplayable games with no code whatsoever. You'd probably even stick up for John Trudeau's pedophilia if you were given the opportunity. Stern's finest, right? Take that dick out of your mouth sometime and maybe you'll recover enough brain cells to type something even remotely intelligent.

[Anonymous No.5734392]

>>5734352
Why are you so seething and long-winded?

[Anonymous No.5734434]

>>5734392
I say everything at once instead of coming back to this thread every two minutes to spout more useless drivel in three separate replies like a frustrated ape. Cope.

[Anonymous No.5735145]

Pretty good original. Feels like a period appropriate EM

[Anonymous No.5735262]

>>5735145
Looks like a fun EM layout. Those center drops and that spinner are really all you need for an enjoyable table

[Anonymous No.5735318]

>>5735262
It's got a nice rule set too, if you enter that Admission to Perdition 3 times it wipes out the all the lit bonuses

[Anonymous No.5735398]

>>5734352
What's the problem? You're a Pat Lawlor dick rider who loves when he dictates the game to his Mexican CAD designer and some guy named Wally with a criss cross above the flippers? Everyone loved Dialed In last year, this year the flippers don't even work. Shoddy parts, shoddy games. None of the Willy Wonka machines worked either. Keep Jersey jacking up the price on those Lite Brites.

[Anonymous No.5735483]

You DO call them "jets" and not "pops", right Anon?

[Anonymous No.5735601]

>>5735398
Hell, I'll be the first to agree that Dialed In was one of the worst games ever made in recent years. It's an incredibly bland game that they're trying to salvage with code updates. Lawlor hasn't made a truly great game since he stopped working with Larry DeMar in the nineties. Chill out.

>>5735483
Jets > [Thumper] Bumpers > Pops. "Pops" seriously has to be the lamest thing to call them.

[Anonymous No.5735628]

>>5705691
How do I git gud at pinball? Does it require hours of autistic practice to beat each table?

[Anonymous No.5735709]

>>5735628
Learning flipper skills like dead bounces and live catches doesn't take too long; it's really just a matter of watching a playlist on YouTube and trying to replicate what you see, and it opens up a ton of options for you when playing. It's learning how to nudge the machine and save the ball that takes a lot more autistic practice. I'd try to hone flipper skills first and learn nudging along the way.

[Anonymous No.5735720]

>>5733170
>>5733172
>Data East could have had Kong
>Sega had to make Tristar Godzilla as a table
Man, Kaiju just have the worst luck as tables.

[Anonymous No.5735735]

>>5735720
Think Stern or JJ might be able to put out a Godzilla game based on the recent US movies?

[Anonymous No.5735739]

>>5735735
I'd love if they went vintage myself. I mean, Ghostbusters (original) and Willy Wonka have tables. Then again, Bayformers has a table, rather than the 80s guys.

[Anonymous No.5735746]

>>5735739
As would I, but I wonder if there would be any licensing issues with the older stuff, or general popularity of the franchise. The only Godzilla that's as well known as Ghostbusters in the US is the first one.

[Princess Sevenleaf !IT2uZpX.Ic No.5736714]

Back to the Future (1990) is pretty fun, I also enjoyed Galaxy by Stern (1980). I'm not really like, a pinball "fan", I just play the ones that have cool artwork and are fun to play.

[Anonymous No.5736726]

>>5732894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbrESjmMFbQ

[Anonymous No.5737393]

>>5735601
Oh so your hero is the dumpster-diving B&E man Larry DeMar, who bravely got all his ideas from literal theft

[Anonymous No.5737394]

>>5735739
>he doesn't know about Black Knight and Black Knight 2000 modes on Black Knight: Sword of Rage

[Anonymous No.5737626]

>>5737393
I don't know what makes you think I have a hero when I flat-out told you that nobody gets a free pass for being a good designer. You're obviously very grouchy. Until you have something meaningful to contribute to this thread, I'm going to tell you to get your diaper changed and take a nap.

>>5737394
Have they updated the Knight modes since the original release? Last I played, the goal in Black Knight multiball was to shoot every shot in the game over and over again, with a multiplier for the number of balls in play. It was kind of underwhelming.

[Anonymous No.5737739]

>>5735628
Here are some great resources for new players:
https://www.deadflip.com/tutorials/
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-WQLGFMr97DnxeE1Rmi-wAwa-Vm7D-7i

Individual machine tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci7gXjSLq9o&list=PL-WQLGFMr97CQpOQDEvRqAiSqcvSuK11h
https://pinballvideos.com/t

>>5735720
Godzilla is rumored for Stern and Spooky. Spooky wanted the Tojo Godzilla and Stern outbid them. Spooky thinks the outbid was just purely to spite them, but idk. Spooky said they went to Japan and bought a license they're really excited about. Probably the anime Godzilla or something like that.

>>5736714
A new BttF pinball machine is rumored from Deeproot.

[Anonymous No.5737747]

>>5737739
>A new BttF pinball machine is rumored from Deeproot
Good for them, having the license will really help their tax scam

[Anonymous No.5737825]

If I had the money I would buy a Terminator 2 pin in a heartbeat.

That new Wizard of Oz table is pretty good though, way better than Stern stuff

[Princess Sevenleaf !IT2uZpX.Ic No.5738318]

>>5737739
.... UNF. Her legs look absolutely killer in those pleasers <3

[Anonymous No.5738420]

>>5718616
came here to see this one. the cabinet form factor and the vertically stacked playing space is just the coolest fucking thing in the universe

[Anonymous No.5738430]

>>5737739
Trudeau-designed machine, not surprised seeing it associated with decadent and depraved sexual activity since he not only collects child pornography but also inflicts grievous sexual injury upon young family members entrusted to his care in the very year he designed this machine.

[Anonymous No.5738643]

>>5737825
What's good about Terminator 2?
Not trolling, I've never played it.

[Anonymous No.5739030]

>>5738420
There's a company that has a plan to make more, after they make more Kingpins (another cancelled game). The Kingpin remake looks great. You can choose between the original code or a new code set they've developed. I hope they do something similar for Pinball Circus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO7Fls5ti_8&t=310s


In other news, I invited an older female coworker to a pinball tournament who hasn't played pinball since she was a teenager, and she did better than me. Humiliating! But, you gotta laugh.

[Anonymous No.5739084]

>>5738643
It's my favorite movie and I really like the skill shot, open field and ramps.

It's incense is exceptionally expensive because it uses Arnold's voice

[Anonymous No.5739775]

>>5738643
It's cheap as shit for a DMD

[Anonymous No.5739783]

>>5739084
If that's supposed to say "license" then wrong, licenses had nothing to do with voice actors back then. They bought it through the studio, James Cameron gave them access to dailies so they could write a proper story for the machine as the movie was being made. Arnold was forced to come in and record dialogue, he swore the whole time and was spitting on everything and shit. The swear lines are hidden in the machine's code.

[Anonymous No.5739860]

>>5738643
Terminator 2 is just a solid game. Great design, great art, great sound. It's not a terribly deep game, but there's more than enough to shoot for in a game with such short ball times.
There are two categories of games, I think. There are games that are over very quickly and leave you wanting to play one more game, and there are games that have deep rulesets and long ball times. Terminator 2 I would put in the upper echelons of the short games category.

[Anonymous No.5740725]

There's a pinball women thread on the Adult Cartoons board at the moment, by the way. Not started by me. Give it a gander... if you dare!

[Anonymous No.5741254]

>>5739084
>>5739775
>>5739860
Thanks.