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Why do Slavs like Heroes of Might and Magic so much?

>> No.5702661

Because it's good shit.

>> No.5702685

not only Slavs
as I recall, HoMM2 didn't leave Top 10 in the Internet Top 100 for two years

>> No.5702690

>Can run on potato
>Countless replayability thanks to decent random map generator
>Hot seat can allow entire pack to play
>No need for PC, since you can just go to internet cafe and all put pocket change on the table to play all day long a match against each other
>Still looks nice over the years
>Gets decent localisation in Polish and Russian from the very start
You literally don't need more to succeed. And the above is how I used to play HoMM3 between '02 and '07 - we were just hanging out in local internet cafe for all day long, but since there were 6 of us for single PC, the actual cost was ridiculously small and we were having tons of fun.

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>Why do Slavs like Heroes of Might and Magic so much?

Because it's a fucking good game, and it's extremely comfy as hell. Better question is, why don't you like it?

>> No.5702857

Never said I didn't, just wondering.

>> No.5702982
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Slavs gracitate towards strategy and rpg games more in general, it seems. Case in point Fallout of Nevada being better than Fallout 2.

>> No.5702986

(And HoMM5 bein superior to any other HoMM. The series went to shit after Ubi took it from the Russkies)

>> No.5703107
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>meme sites compress their images
kill me

>> No.5703131

>(And HoMM5 bein superior to any other HoMM
No, it wasn't. It was the sharp decline and pathetic attempt to make HoMM3 in 3D, while also replacing anything even resembling originality with most generic cliches

>> No.5703220

more HoMM memes plox

>> No.5703229

>rock 'n' roll

>> No.5703925


>> No.5703928

please redpill me on fallout nevada. All i heard is how bad translated it is

>> No.5703936

Different anon and its initial English "translation" was fucking horrible.
That's no longer the case.
Gameplay and plotwise it's solid

>> No.5703941

where can i find it? All i remember is finding the bad translated version on NMA months ago

>> No.5703951

Did anyone ever actually finish a hotseat game?

>> No.5703984

I think the "good localisation" bit was a big deal. The same shit with Baldur's Gate and Gothic. CDProjekt did a partician job here with distribution.
Also, slavs gravitated towards PC gaming simply because consoles and console games were insanely expensive in 2000's for a typical Pole or Russian - console game prices were defaulted towards a Western consumer after all.
So now HoMM is kinda ingrained into Polish genotype - like Starcraft is for South Korea.

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>> No.5703998
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baby duck syndrome

many's first game

was in every computer club

>> No.5704001

there old games, and slavs are poor in general

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>> No.5704152

I want to see how exactly did that black dragon have a child with a Harpy - given the intro cinematic, the Black Dragon is the same size as a Giant, which is so large that it can flatten three harpies under its feet in a single step.

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Very carefully.

>> No.5704241

I read interview with a guy who did official Russian translation of HoMM3. He said it was a race against time to release it before pirates did theirs and flood virtually non-existent market with illegal copies. They had, like, few weeks, so everyone from head of the company to bookkeeping department were involved in translating the game.
And they did a very good job.

>> No.5704285

1; it's a good game
2; low system specs, and has hot seat multiplayer, so even if your computer is an absolute toaster and your internet connection would struggle to even download the OP image, you still have a good game which you could play with your friends

I kinda wonder if the Worms 2 games ever got as much love in the region, it too has low system specs and local multiplayer.

>but since there were 6 of us for single PC, the actual cost was ridiculously small and we were having tons of fun
Huh, there's that too.

>> No.5704297

Why, yes. While not as popular as HoMM3, Worms 2 (and Armageddon) was very popular as well. Countless days and nights were spent with friends in that game.

>> No.5704325

they didn't do it on time though
I have a translated pirated copy of the game by summer 1999 while the licensed one was released, I think, in late September or something (but I bought it anyway because it costed pennies, had, as I recall, some patches in it, had a better jewel-case and the translation was much better as well ofc)

>> No.5704348

The setting was a WHFB ripoff. But the game mechanics were far better. Heroes could be developed a lot more and were diverse in what they could do, each town had mechanics tied to it that made it feel different to play. The only mehanical fault is the mediocre random map generator.

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Shut the fuck up zoomer shit

Also the 4th ones was underrated as fuck

>> No.5704387

>not liking game that alows me and my 7 squating firends to play on our athlon pc
you deserve non alcohol vodka for this post OP

>> No.5704391

Did you also hide under the blanket and whistled loudly so your buddies can't see or hear your moves, or was it just us?

>> No.5704396

no, we were using blanket only while playing medal of honor on ps2
we flipped a coin to decide who was under the blanket

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>> No.5705529

sounds comfy af

>> No.5706419

>No need for PC, since you can just go to internet cafe and all put pocket change on the table to play all day long a match against each other

huh that brings back a memory of an internet cafe yeaars ago in Majorca and this dude playing this game, was really curious what game it was at the time

>> No.5706429

slavs are into turnbased games in general take a look at top chess players, over half of them are slavs

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Heroes 3 was the very first non-pirate game widely available in jewel-case with official Russian translation - good and complete one. And it had the same price as pirate cd games (something unheard at the time). And it was everywhere in all gaming magazines. So literally every one had it.

School kids in russia (lucky ones with pentium133 at home) memorises all tier cretures in all castles - like western kids memorise all the pokemons. I think I still recall all tiers from H3 while haven't played it for 15 years.

Once played the picrelated for 18 hours straight - those memories, what a superb campaign.

>> No.5706457

Why don't you?

>> No.5706474

Not Slav and i consider this the no1 computer Game of all time. At least in the turned based strategy category.

>> No.5706485

Whoa. In Poland the title wasn't even translated, but the localisation was still God-tier.

>> No.5706492

I'd rather ask why isn't it so popular in other places. This game is one of greatest, ever. I've played +3k hours myself, it's fucking fantastic.

>> No.5706495

Homm3, Diablo 2, aoe2, ttd, rct, pharaoh was basically my childhood. Never played a console until I was 23.

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Russian translation was really good - on the level of the best pirate translations (warcraft2 CПК, early Fargus).

They translated the cover art, translated the titles not literally, but meaningfully - it was: Heroes of Sword and Magic (to keep homm abbreviation in russian): the Breath of Death. They translated the text and a voice - with a decent voice acting in campaign videos. It was very well done, and all this for the price of a typical pirate disc (70 rubles).

>> No.5706507


PSX, SNES and N64 were very rare and expensive in third world. And Chinese NES clones (Dendy) and MegaDrive looked non-serious comparing with late 90s computer games.

>> No.5706518

Fuck these assholes and their regenerative bullshit

>> No.5706546

That's really cool. I hate half-assed translations.

Or what's even worst, good translations for all the other European languages except mine.

>> No.5706597

More of an arpg guy like Gothic

>> No.5706638

Instead of Dendy the Polish had Pegasus. Sone of them weren't even working 60% of the time.

And yeah - I never actually owned a proper console in my life. PC was much more budget-friendly. PSX/PS2 were insanely expensive in Poland, and trying to buy a legit console game for 200-300 PLN (only avsilable in English) in times where salaries revolved around 1000 PLN per month, was an idiocy. And on the other hand you had a shitton of fully translated PC games for 20-40PLN - HOMM3 being one of them.

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Fun fact - Baldurs Gate was not popular, because with 7 cds it cost 7x the price of a normal game on pirate cd markets (and there were no other cd markets). So most people played BG2 first.

>> No.5706685

>the Polish had Pegasus
Pegasus was at least a solid clone, one of the best famiclones out there in fact. The flea market clones were those of crappy quality (aside from Terminator Ending Man, these were "NES on a chip" systems).

>> No.5706717

because others could afford handhelds and consoles? PC gaming was an afterthought in those times.

>> No.5706725
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This thread made me play Heroes 1. Had it back in 90s, but always play Heroes 2 instead.

>> No.5706726

Homm3 being extremely popular in Russia/eastern Europe is a well established fact that most people are aware of. In the rest of Europe (& US) it was very popular in the nordics, but seemingly nowhere else. How come?

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>but seemingly nowhere else.
pls stop this nonsense
HOMM3 was popular everywhere

>> No.5706742

I guess I'm a special kind of autist, but I never liked HoMM 1. The game never did anything for me - maybe it's the cheesy graphics, maybe it's the relative simplicity. It was HoMM 2 that hooked me in.

>> No.5706769

PC was even bigger cockier master race in 90s and 2000s because of cutting 3D GPUs doing what Nintendon'ts. Console fags always mad.

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Myself is more or less the same. Heroes 1 was too close to Heroes 2, but inferior in any possible way. Even ladt year I tried Heroes 1 first, but switched to Heroes 2 Succession Wars campaign without completing a single mission.

Right now I actually quite like the simplicity of Heroes 1 - less buildings, less creatures, faster game pacing. Just finished the first level of Knight campaign.

>> No.5706808

Here's an actual grandmaster playing HoMM3.

>> No.5706809

This Crusader is moshing like a motherfucker.
Brings a tear to my eye.

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Lold from a jumping dendroid

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weird, I'm Russian, born in 1988, I got NES (Dendy) when I was 6, Sega Genesis when I was 11, didn't have a PC until I was 16. Basically the same goes for most kids I knew while growing up. Literally every boy in my grade had either Dendy, Sega or PS1. Only a few rich kids had PCs.

>> No.5706818

Well it depends on what timescale. I guess it was popular for a year or so in the west. In ex-USSR and east bloc it gained a cult status, game being played years after their release. Not to mention that whole odd concept of internet cafes for places slow to bring internet or even PCs to people's homes (due to prices or whatever).

>> No.5706837

In Poland it was actually quite an opposite - at least in my neighbourhood. Sure, there were a lot of kids with Pegasus - those fucking things were everywhere and available dirt cheap. If you could afford it, you most likely had a PC. The mantra was "why should I waste my two months worth of salary to by a console just for games, if I can use that money to buy a decent PC?". I myself had an Amiga growing up (which became obsolete VERY fast), later - when I was maybe 11 - circa 1998 - I've gotten my first PC. Finding a kid with a PS1/NES in my neighbourhood was like finding a two-headed cow. And even then nobody wanted the hang out with him, because we couldn't exchange games - which was how you played most of the new releases back in the days.

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still got mine

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>> No.5706889

That's weird, I'm Polish myself born 92, live up north and during late nineties almost everyone here myself included had a PS1. We used to go to internet cafes to play pc games or play them at school.

>> No.5706925

Maybe it's a regional thing. I live southwest and during 1995-2000 period most kids I grew up with had either a PC or a Pegasus if they were really poor. I can't recall kids without any gaming system whatsoever - to the point that not having a gaming system was a mark of shame. I can recall only one kid in my class having a PS1. The fucker kept bragging about it over and over again.

>> No.5706983

meh, I had a freaking 3DO
back then I'd like to brag about it but the thing had only 3 decent games (Road Rash, NfS and Return Fire); seriously, sometimes it seemed like some Sega Genesis was more preferable than 3DO (let alone my old slow PC that had more exciting stuff than that failure of a console)

btw the "coolest" guy I used to know (when speaking of video/computer games) had SNES, he was the only SNES owner I ever personally knew in Russia in the 90s

>> No.5707003

>he was the only SNES owner I ever personally knew in Russia in the 90s
Same here, from the entirety of my friends (classmates, family, what have you) I literally only knew one guy with the original, non-counterfeit SNES. His dad brought it to him from Germany. He was fucked though - good luck trying to buy original SNES games in 90's Poland. So he only played Flintstones and Super Mario Cart over and over and over again.

>> No.5707021
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Heroes 1 plays like a simplified Heroes 2, but art style is different. It reminds me more of a Simon the Sorcerer games.

>> No.5707036
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I also knew exactly one guy with a SNES, he actually was keeping it in secret, so other kids won't ask him to come to play. We played huge Mortal Combat tournaments on MegaDrive at the time.

He shown me Donkey Kong, and it looked gorgeous on an old CRT (Soviet Rubin). I did't know any other SNES games except DK for a long time. And it was the first game I emulated on Android phone in 2010.

>> No.5707042

Can you name any countries/region in particular where it was _very_ popular? Not just "popular" and not just around 1999 but throughout the 2000s. To me it seems like many/most people in northern Europe played it as kids whereas other westerners it's more like 1/10 people.

>> No.5707043

Makes me wonder, how hard is it for the average Russian to understand and/or translate English?

>> No.5707046

To clarify for autistic purposes when I say "people" I mean people who were kids/young/ playing games in the 90s/00s

>> No.5707048

Around 94-95 every one here had Dendy or Sega MD. "Do you have Sega or Dendy?" was an appropriate question for 10 yo kids who just met for the first time.

Circa 98 almost all my classmates had PCs - P100-166. These were "computers for study and printers", but of course were used predominantly for gaming. I didn't know anyone with PS1.

>> No.5707060

It was hard, almost impossible. For simple games (platformers, racing) people just ignore the text.

I was the best in the class with english, was playing Fallout 1 in 99 and was barely understanding the text. Was mostly guessing and using a Russian walkthrough from a book (there were a lot of books about games at the time).

Thus people liked Buka's version of Heroes 3 so much.

It was a common joke about Max Payne to be translated as "maximum pain".

>> No.5707119

Today its not so hard since English is everywhere but way back then wew

>> No.5707123
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There was a very popular TV show called: Dendy - the new reality. It was aired on weekends after TNMT cartoons. The main guy from there (picrelated) later died in a motorized sledge crash.



>> No.5707130

I'm still mad that the HoMM3 sci-fi expansion never became a thing because they gave in to the crybabies. Fuck this gay earth, I will never be not mad.

>> No.5707136

I'm French and it was pretty popular when I was in high school. Played lots of HoMM 2 and 3 at my neighbour's and schoolmates who had a PC played it.
I once visited a friend who outgrew vidya at the time, so I didn't talke much about this subject, and discovered his big sister and brother were playing 3. He told me even his mum gave it a try.

Even at university, I discovered many were fans of the series when one guy was super hyped for HoMM4.

It's one of the easiest strategy game to get into, yet has some depth and that addictive "one more turn" syndrome.

>> No.5707310

Wow, it looks vintage now. I don't remember last time when I used a cd on my laptop.

I think I have both this red one, and also a blue one with Eraphia somewhere at parents apartment. Likelg heavily scratched and with broken cases.

>> No.5707378

I love it, but never played it as a child. Only rich people had computers in Mexico back in the 90s.

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First hard battle I replayed couple of times. These ladies are tough.

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Minotaurs are really different in each Heroes game

>> No.5707925
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Dragon looks funny

>> No.5708392

There ladies are pretty much a HoMM 1 equivalent of a vampire. I hated them.

>> No.5708690
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The fuck is wrong with your graphics?
Is this a HD version of Heroes 1?

>> No.5708707

>I'm still mad that the HoMM3 sci-fi expansion never became a thing because they gave in to the crybabies. Fuck this gay earth, I will never be not mad.

I thought a fanmod put them back in? But the fanmod also increased the difficultly of the game because muh hardcore fanbois.

>> No.5708708

They looked very kawaii in the first game.

>> No.5708723

It looks like it's running on a DOSBox filters. Supereagle maybe?

>> No.5708727
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Canceled. Those poor ass polacks are doing their own shit now.
Some western steam-punk douchbaggery, unfitting, unaesthetic and unbalanced even more then that Pie-rat town from HoTA

>> No.5708753

Dude. It is HoTa.

>> No.5708764
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Cove is nowhere near as overpowered as vanilla Necropolis and Conflux. And perfectly fits into the setting too.

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>> No.5708772

nice post, insightful to a country's game culture which I never knew about

>> No.5708789

>fits into the setting too.
No its don't

>> No.5708796
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King's Bounty (1991) was the originator, and still my favorite

>> No.5708818

Dude, you are literally me in every aspect

>> No.5708824

It's literally based on existing pirate kingdom in Enroth which was featured in one of the Armageddon's Blade campaigns.

>> No.5708825
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Was looking up Cove and found this. Anyone played more of these modded towns?

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I know they had it in M&M VIII
But it's still fucking stupid

>> No.5708828

they all WOG garbage
crushing your game with no survival

>> No.5708834
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I'm pretty fond of WoG too.

>> No.5708835
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These guys have some imagination

>> No.5708838
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>Might and Magic VIII: Echo of Destruction

What the hell is this?

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You sure about that?

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Ha-ha, vampires are suckers compating to these beasts. Look what happened, when I attacked a dozen of them having peasants in my army.

Also they can be hired in Heroes 2 Price of Loyalty, that completely broke a multiplayer there (not that it was any balanced in any heroes, but having these "mid-tier flying sceletons with 100% necromancy conversion" was OTT).

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I wish I could make my own towns

It's a dream of my childhood

I even draw a concept called Hyperborea check it out it has slav mythology

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>goin with peasants on ghosts
You crazy?

>> No.5708857
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it doesn't seem to be that hard

>> No.5708858
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Magic Dosbox 5xhq filter. I rarely use filters, but 640x480 on my screen lies in a no mans land between cool pixel graphics (160p gba, 220p snes) and 600p+ clear picture. Pixels in 480p are big enough to see them, but not big enough to be a pixel-art. See picrelated. Thit is not how it originally looked on a 14" CRT.

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Why the pikeman on your picture is without the helm?

It was a lategame of map2 actually - was in hurry to the last yellow city.

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Didn't know that this guy is an oldfag from the very first heroes.

>> No.5709124

Imagine being this much of a faggot.

>> No.5709127

Ain't this prince charming turns out to be a blood sucking douche? I bet this is why he is young all the time

>> No.5709152
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Who is asking me?

>> No.5709154
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Rouges in Heroes 1 are hilarious

>> No.5709163
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Heroes 1 plays like the simplified and streamlined version of Heroes 2. It has less everything and the gameplay is faster, but is repetitivr the same way.

I just lost in a third mission in knight campaign - someone digged the artifact before.

>> No.5709169

Seek help

>> No.5709181

>pathetic attempt to make HoMM3 in 3D
bitches be mad

>> No.5709193

>born in 1988, I got NES (Dendy) when I was 6, Sega Genesis when I was 11,
NES in 1994
Sega in 1999
yep 3d world just as I remember it
My family didn't have any consoles, but I played DOS games at dad's research institute. I guess parent's work related PCs were the way to game for most post soviet kids

>> No.5709201

Oh yeah bro!
I played it on Android in the subway for a while, quite fun

>> No.5709203

>all those weak creatures
well it's your fault

>> No.5709230

Have sex

>> No.5709242
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Problems, faggot?

>> No.5709258

Swiggity swooty vampires bit your ass. retaliation? haha no.

>> No.5709276

Because everyone loves having fantasies and HMM gives Slavs the opportunity to have three:
1) use magic. all magic is fantasy.
2) be mighty. most slavs are little more than impotent manbabies with no real might or power of any sort.
3) be a hero. slavs these days can only be villains, not heroes.

>> No.5709287 [DELETED] 

russians are not slavs but finno ugric mongols

>> No.5709301

>russians are not slavs
That's like saying Germans aren't Germanic.

>> No.5709313

seething shitskins

>> No.5709320

If an enemy possess 'no retaliations' can that be countered with counterstrike?

>> No.5709346


>> No.5709349

pierdol się kacapie sam jesteś szitskin

>> No.5709364
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... toś dojebał...

>> No.5709373

Bo to prawda jest i
ruskie ludzie gnuśne i robienia kiełbasy nigdy nie chcieli nauczyć się

>> No.5709380
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How was the gaming scene in Kenya?

>> No.5709407

It's a good game, it aged well and every game after this one is utter shit because FUCKING UBISOFT

>> No.5709413

Get back to cleaning toilets, Bolek

>> No.5709414

Reminds me my group. We were using a cafe where each following hour was cheaper than the previous one, so at more than 4 hours it was cheaper to pay the bill for the PC than for the snacks we bought in a nearby grocery.
Good times. Probably the last time I was able to finish a multiplayer match on a single sitting and with more than 3 human players.

>> No.5709417

i have slave chochols doing it
noblesse oblige

>> No.5709419

If you want to roleplay as a Pole, don't use any of the existing translators. You sound like Yoda

>> No.5709423

non existent, too busy trying not to starve or get bitten by an aids mosquito or killed by a rival ethnic tribe from the next village over.

>> No.5709426

Sam jesteś translator

>> No.5709431

Post a link to this concept.

>> No.5709440
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>noblesse oblige

>> No.5709468

Polacks are the niggers of Europe

Ruining every thread they in

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that feel when HOMM2 remake looks worse than the original

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>> No.5709732

that's because you're comparing it to the 2 absolutely busted towns that are always permabanned from online play? They also nerfed them hard.

Now compare Cove to every other town. It is a improved Castle in every way.

>> No.5709758

imagine for a moment being this delusional

>> No.5709781

Low income and high intelligence. It's why America can't into retro

>> No.5709816
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fuck this game

>> No.5709887

I think one of the reasons why we slavs love heroes and other turn based games, because of climate. You know when its winter you have bunch of time, and turn based shit help wste it. And you dont need skils to play heroes.

>> No.5710084

Why do Koreans love Starcraft so much?

>> No.5710119

They have faster cheaper government-built webz for REAL-TIME e-sports. Proving that asian SOCIALISM is superior to russian mafia/KGB.

>> No.5710126

Probably. obama never played his free copy of Witcher 3 when polandball gave it to him.

>> No.5710129
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Level 3 of Heroes 1 campaign appeared to be more interesting than expected. The winning condition was to dig the artefact - The Eye of Goros.

Knight starts in the grass corner, in a first month I had 3 knight castles in that corner with the intention to get 2-3 weeks creatures from 3 castles (1-4 tiers, did have resources for 5 tier onlh in 1 castle) and to steamroll the map with a main hero after that.

To my huge surprise, in about 2 weeks one of the computer players obtained the artifact - immediate defeat and a guillotine animation. And the fartherst save about a week before. How does computer do this - I was sure it didn't visit at least the half of the obelisks?

The only thing I could get from the obelisk map, is that The Eye of Goros is somewhere on a wasteland terrain. So it was a nice exercise with rushing with a main hero across the map and trying to defend my 3-castle corner with minions. Got it right on a third attempt. But even after I wiped out all the enemies, it took half an hour to collect all the obelisks and to find the right spot.

Does computer just dig every square, once it get first 3-5 obelisks? I've seen something similar in Heroes 2 campaign, but computer was unsuccessful that time.

Picrelated - visiting graveyard.

>> No.5710137

Did they actually finished it to the playable state? Did they disable a Delay button in battle?

>> No.5710139

Play the superior Sega Genesis one with muzak.
>Get chased by ghosts in real-time on the world map. Super Spooky.

>> No.5710141

>AI is FAST!
The campaign games in HOMM games were always bullshit.

>> No.5710142

Fun thing - delay was implemented in Heroes 2, but was removed (hidden in ui) shortly before the release. There was a (windows-only) fan patch, that adds this button back.

>> No.5710149

>Week of the Manticore
>Manticore creeps blocking roads
>Turns into Zounds if left unchecked.

>> No.5710158

I liked both RoE and SoD campaigns as a child, but for some reason played only single scenarios in Heroes 2.

Finished both Roland and Archibald campaigns last year - and they are really repetetive. Got a 3 month+ no-Heroes gaming after either of them. Though level choices and poweups were nice.

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I have also felt agony over the exclusion of the forge.
I never played mm7 or anything, I just know that a sci-fi splicer faction/campaign would have been way better than what AB/conflux was.
Regardless, the only way to realise this shit is through the builds and platforms we have available to us.
Lately I've been playing with VCMI, this is a somewhat stable re-build of the game that allows installation of mods without totally changing everything like WoG.
There are still many issues when you use this shit, random crashes, AI proritises attacking catapult over units and I had to grab another mod to give AI unlimited resources because it's totally gimped otherwise but I've been able to play on original scenario maps with something resembling proper forge and that has been enough for me.

>> No.5710321
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WTF is this area in the middle of the forest? It is from the same campaign map 3.

>> No.5710480
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It is possible for us cockblocked forge fans to at least play a few maps and try to get some decent battlesunlike this one

>> No.5710710

what does delay do?

>> No.5710814

Hahahaha... My friend got a "choice" between Eagle Eye and First Aid with the same hero last match, I was sure you must be him at first glance

>> No.5710851

A mój poduszkowiec jest pełen węgorzy. I dunno why, but chuj z tym.

>> No.5711108

Before Heroes 3 the unit in battle had to go in his order, or skip the turn. In 3 units can wait and go the last in the round. Thus Arch-Devils effectively goes twice in a row after the first round. And competitive autist gaming is based on abusing "1 creature of tier 1 attacks first" trick.

>> No.5711164

>or skip the turn
not skipping but raising defence

>> No.5712595
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Barbarian bump

>> No.5713061

Why did they stop depicting inhabitans of the towns?

>> No.5713479

Do slavs like Disciples 2?

>> No.5713491

I played this so many times and loved the snot out of it.

>> No.5713543

>Do slavs like Disciples 2?
Russians apparently do. Personally, I wasn't aware of the franchise until my dad bought the game (well, pirated CD, but still) for me. I fell in love with it despite the fact game is kinda broken gameplay-wise. Then again, the same can be said for HoMM III.

>> No.5713563

We do, not as much as HoMM franchise though.

>> No.5713590

It's fun and atmospheric, with some really good artstyle. I do prefer Age of Wonders though.
So for me HoMM>AoW>Disciples.
t. Pole.

>> No.5713653

You mean that shitty homm clone that you cant see a shit and the game that lags like wtf even today

>> No.5713705

>literally turn-based Ogre Battle
>hurr durr homm clone
I even seen people call AoW "homm clone", lmao.

>> No.5713781

AoW is a MoM clone

>> No.5713783

That's the point.

>> No.5713906

Too much grimderp for me
t. another Pole

AoW2 match in late July? I'm leaving for sailing regatta in two days, but once I'm back, I would kill for a chance to play with some human opponent and a Pole at that

>> No.5713958

Yes, it was popular exactly between the people who liked Heroes 3. There were official (non-pirated) releases of Disciples 2. Disciples 3 was developed (into the ground) in Russia.

Ogre Battle and other JTRPG are meaningless in Russia - not a single person heard of them, the first Nintendo console (after the Dendy) that became relatively popular here is Switch.

>> No.5714024

>Ogre Battle

OB was an RTS with automatic turn-based battles, so I don't get why any idiot would compare it to HOMMs.

>> No.5714029
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Nippon strat games also tend to be more linear and campaign-only. Pic related.

>> No.5714097

I get he mentions OB when talking about Disciples.

Disciples feels like HoMM overworld and cities with Ogre Battle's combat and class promotion.

>> No.5714101

>AoW2 match in late July?
Thanks for the offer, but to be honest I really do suck in AoW. I like the games - I am just not good at them competetively. The one I've played the most was probably AoW 3, then 1, actually.

>> No.5714139

Few people played Ogre Battle in Russia back when it came out, but these days any game enthusiast worth their salt knows who Matsuno is and, therefore, what Ogre Battle / Tactics Ogre is. I would say about as many people proportionally know what OB is in Russia as in any other country (except Japan, where the thing was of course legitimately popular back in the days).

>> No.5714216

> game enthusiast

Exactly. And this thread is about normies, who played half-a-dozen games in high school. Not about 1 and a half autizmos maximus from 2ch hk/cg. Heroes3 popularity here was on the level of GTA3, Stalker and FIFA. And localized Disciples were pitched exactly as Heroes3 with a dumbed down combat.

I personally know grownups who have only Heroes3 (more rarely H5, Disciples or Civ4) on their work laptops and play it once a week after work/kids stuff.

>> No.5714223

Interesting sort off that happened here with Quake, not in piracy, but being a flagship, and multiplayer title because pentium 1s got a huge price drop, when before with Doom shareware and what not very few people had pcs. So people remember quake more vividly than doom and yeah its strange.

I didn't notice it as a kid, poortuguese here.

>> No.5714557

People who play games competitively are autists abusing ancient bugs for their own benefit, so no point playing with them at all.
In case you'd change your mind, just use HoMM general to call in after 24th of June

>> No.5714751
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Lava background looks nice

>> No.5715891

They are slavs and mean Wait.

>> No.5715987

What's up with the headless horseman? Didn't know HoMM 1 had dismemberment damage.

>> No.5716051

What else did you expect in slavs appreciation thread? Be grateful that I didn't write it in Bulgarian (knight Dimitri - ma boy).

>> No.5716054
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Lol, just noticed that - screenshot during tbe animation running glitch. There are no death animation at all in Heroes1 - just a blood cloud.

The coolest thing about Heroes 1 animation is moonwalking unicorns.

>> No.5716163

>Also, slavs gravitated towards PC gaming simply because consoles and console games
were non-existent. Personel computers (C=ommie 16s, 64's, plus 4's mostly) kept coming from the West one way or other, but no one knew what the fuck is a "gaming console". And Heroes was a game even normies in the school wanted to play.

>> No.5716167

When HoMM1 was a thing I subsequently had a Pegasus - a Famicom clone - and so did most of my friends of varying wealth backgrounds.

>> No.5716174

Cove is a mid-tier pick online nowadays and doesn't see as much play as Fortress, Stronghold, nerfed Conflux or Castle itself. "Improved Castle" is rich considering how strong the ability to improve your Conv Angels is on the most popular template, whereas Cove has nothing of the sort.

>> No.5716182

IDK mane, I am Hungarian, we had C=ommies coming from Austria, but the only game console I have ever seen was in the television where they let a family play Super Mario and change their in-game points to real-life stuff.

>> No.5716210

Same here - in 1995/1996 I still had a barely working Amiga, plus the Pegasus. But original SNES or PS1 - that was some sci-fi technology in Poland. I only got a proper PC in 1998. It could barely run Quake 1, but fuck it - it was a PC. I could play modern vidya and shit on it.

>> No.5716229

There were some good games you could play on a NES/Famiclone, did you guys just mostly get meme bootlegs and seldom the real games or what?

>> No.5716234

Ah, if they barely worked I could see why there was no regard for them.

>> No.5716256

The sound equilizer in my Pegasus was completely busted for instance. When I asked a shop assistant if there is a warranty for that or if I can exchange it for another one. he just laughed and moved on to another client. I guess that was a Pegasus feature.

>> No.5716462

What the fuck are you talking about? PC gaming exploded in the 90s, games like Doom and Quake were gargantuan sellers which drove the market to stronger and better hardware (Quake pretty much spearheading the development of hardware accelerated 3D, people would upgrade or replace their computers just to play it with a good framerate and dynamic lights), the rate at which tech developed was completely breakneck, when PC games were ported to consoles they often had to sacrifice graphics, performance, and even content, depending on the circumstances.

It was an excellent decade for console games, but if you didn't then also pay attention to PC games too, you're just ignorant, the only viable excuse is to be a poorfag.

>> No.5716468

Maybe it depended on where in Eastern Europe you were at the time?

>> No.5716491

>sometimes it seemed like some Sega Genesis was more preferable than 3DO
I mean, pretty much.

>> No.5716509


>> No.5716892 [DELETED] 
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Post some slav-approved games.

>> No.5716897
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Make space for better successor

>> No.5716931

Not him, but it's very simple to explain:
Dendy cost pocket change when compared with pretty much anything else. Same with Polish equivalent, Pegasus. Then a lot of 2nd hand Genesis came to the market, repeating the cycle
In the same time, PC (Atari didn't count and Commodore had the reverse effect) was a status item until early-to-mid 00s. If you had one, you could claim being middle class. Fucking internet, even modem-based, retained such status till mid 00s

tl;dr those consoles were extremely cheap

>> No.5716951

>born 92
Here is your answer.
In terms of hardware, Polish landscape was changing almost on yearly basis and let's not forget on the profound effects the komunia between 97 and 99 had on general "computerisation" of entire nation. During those three years, THE coolest thing kids could get for komunia was a PC. Bonus points if with Win98.
By '01, PC was downgraded to "just" birthday present and by '03 if you still didn't had one, something was going really fucking bad with income of your parents or you were living on literal potato farm in the middle of nowhere.

And something very similar was going with PS1. When it first came out, it was prohibitively expensive AND it "couldn't" be pirated for like stuff for PC nor you couldn't easily access more games on your nearby giełda. Releases in Polish? Ha, good one!
In fact, having PS1 was still a sign of being from a well-off family all the way until PS2 premiered. Which is funny, because PS2 took Poland by storm around '02 and '03. Greatly helped by tech-wizards who managed to provide pirated stuff for it.

All in all, you are simply young enough to get into PS1 territory when it was already "cheap"

>> No.5717035

>THE coolest thing kids could get for komunia was a PC.
When I had my komunia - circa 1994 - all I got was a trip to Paris and a week in Disneyland. Somehow I don't feel ripped off.

>> No.5717154

Is this the general?

>> No.5717163

Might as well be.

>> No.5717265

Does the general still have that anon shitposting about air Magic?

>> No.5717324

Nah, but we have new shitposters now, but I think the guy asking for modded HoMM3 to have a separate general from "true" HoMM3 is on vacation at this point.

>> No.5717334

Inferno with Elixir of life, that is good living right there.

>> No.5717378

dude just create your own template and cut out all the useless shit you don't want to play with and while you're at it add back galthran and mullich

>> No.5717620

My generation (was 8 in 1995) played Dendy in primary school, so anything remotely complex was out of question. Also most games were not localized. I remember Chip and Dale 2, Dark Wing Duck and Duck Tales 2 the most.

Most cartriges were 50 games in 1, and I think many of them were romhacks.

>> No.5717631

No, this is /int/ - slavs remember their glorious nineties thread

>> No.5717641
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I am actually quite enjoying Heroes 1 campaign. Can recommend to someone, who decides whether replay Heroes 2 or play Heroes 1.

Mission 4, big map, 4 castles, I am just returned home from a successful raid on a Warlock corner. And on picrelated green sorceress successfully raping me in my home castle (all 6 tiers built) on a 7th day after a Plague week. There are 9 Cavalry there and I have no chances - replayed it 5 times. Can kill either Cyclops or Unicorns, but not both.

>> No.5717649

It had advertisment slogan "Better than AoE2 and a spiritual successor to it". Don't know whether this is true (didn't play either of them), but this slogan was repeated in every single article/review about Cossacs.

>> No.5717661
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Spellcross, read about it in Gameland in 98

>> No.5718212

>dude just create your own template
Because I would gladly remove bunch of skills from the roster

>> No.5718221

Because that was literally the point of the game - they knew from the start the logical conclusion of AoE2 will be medieval shit, so rather than kicking with the horse, they went straight for next period.
Turns out they were right. So fucking right they make AoE3 (same period as Cossacks for the most part) look fucking terrible by comparison.
As for the slogan, it depends on what you want to get from the game. If you enjoy elaborate armies of hundreds of units, then there is nothing like Cossacks/American Conquest (ESPECIALLY American Conquest thanks to the morale mechanics and aiming calculations) in terms of that. If you want just handful of units to control, then either AoE2 or Rise of Nations/Legends.

>> No.5718736

I think Slavs really like the medieval european fantasy setting. Isn't Gothic 2 a cult game in Poland also? It'd fit the bill.

>> No.5718969
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Brave rouges are brave, defending their stolen artifact from a dragon

>> No.5719318

on the screenshot I can see you're playing HotA so just open up RMG template editor and create your own or edit existing one, you can tweak out all kinds of details, it's very well made

>> No.5720035
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How can one have the picrelated super poor result (a lot of casualties) with much stronger army.

>> No.5720040
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And with that strong hero.

>> No.5720045
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Picrelated is the answer. Fireballs were annihilating. Fortunately tere is no mana in Heroes 1, so Sorceress run out of fireballs soon

>> No.5720341

>r. And on picrelated green sorceress successfully raping me in my home castle (all 6 tiers built) on a 7th day after a Plague week. There are 9 Cavalry there and I have no chances - replayed it 5 times

AI cheats. You need to rekt them fast ASAP , or they will always outnumber you.

The custom maps are less rapey though.

>> No.5720347

Don't know what you're on about, that's what Heroes 1 and other low res games looked like on my PC monitor, you could definitely count pixels.

>> No.5720585

It really is - Gothic 1 moreso than 2. On top of it being a good game it was also fully localized into Polish - with quality voice acting and what not. So that's one reason. The other was that those games were available dirt cheap on the Polish market, so almost everyone played them. That was actually CDProjekt's conscious effort, with them releasing a bunch of really good if maybe older or lesser known games in a very attractive price and fully localized. "Kolekcja Klasyki" was essentially a proto-GOG back in 2000s. Infinity Engine games and The Longest Journey also became cult classics in Poland for this reason - good translation, quality Polish voice acting, cheap price.

>> No.5720810
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The second and the 4th HoMM are the comfiest

Proof me vvrong

protip: you cunt

>> No.5720995

I was pissed when I tried playing lost continent in HoMM2 recently, was expecting a nice long map with large battles and instead I get alamar showing up with black dragons on week 4 while I'm still flailing around looking for enough mercury to get phoenixes.
Any idea if difficulty affects the cheating? I was playing on expert/queen/whatever and thought I was being a pussy since I always play 200% on HoMM 3 but I'm starting to think the knowledge of that game might not be as transferable as I thought.

>> No.5721651
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It well may be that AI is cheating on higher difficulties. But during the campaign I didn't notice any obvious cheating. In last case with sorceress - it was a Plague week to blame. And it actually was quite fortunate to her to attack immediately after I have a brawl witn warlocks.

Picrelated - clash of 6th tiers.

>> No.5721757

Gabe Newell said the fact that he had to buy HOMM three or four times because he kept breaking it is a reason to give him a donation for a download.
>This is just a more reliable and dependable situation. I mean, I bought Heroes of Might and Magic four different times now, I swear."
The fat kike said that the fact developers used to have to release their game finished, at least on consoles, and playable without a patch because they had no way of patching it was a bad thing but tried to spin it in a positive way.

>> No.5721936

The "no-patch" thing applied too much strain to the well-behaving developers. For example Bungie lost a huge sum of money because they were forced to recall loads of Myth2 cds because of some stupid mistake included there. And Myth games, like NWCs HoMM games, were the most deep and innovatory games for that time.

And 90-s consoles super strict patching restrictions didn't necessary produce better games. Instead devs were forced to cut stuff and make games more shallow to be able to test them properly before release.

>> No.5721972

>well-behaving developers
No such thing, and what is wrong with having as much strain as possible, especially when it encourages them to release a proper product that doesn't need any patch or update?
It does produce better games and industry practices as has already been proven.
> For example Bungie lost a huge sum of money because they were forced to recall loads of Myth2 cds because of some stupid mistake included there
Good, thats one of the points, to discourage patches as much as possible and to encourage testing and bug fixing before the game is released and to leave a sour taste in the customer's mouth so they hopefully don't give them money again
Why are you trying to defend anti-consumer practices and the man that has done more damage to gaming than any other company? You are either a developer or have some other financial interest in games being released unfinished and them charging for a download or are a corporate sycophant

>> No.5722004

This fucking buzzword again.

>> No.5722147

>Still looks nice over the years
HoMM3 was always ugly compared to HoMM2.

>> No.5722730

Charging for a download is anti-consumer, unethical, and immoral and so is all the other negatives that come with it. Why does the video game and digital distribution industry get a pass for using buzzwords and brainwashing to push these shitty practices?

>> No.5723247

Consumerism is a cancer that kills games industry. It is the real reason we speak about games on /vr/ instead of /v/. Game developers, like the artists, should implement their internal vision to create games that will be remembered long after. Not to mass produce some risc-averted, albeit polished and well-tested, shallow crap.

>> No.5723251

>It is the real reason we speak about games on /vr/ instead of /v/.
I thought we're here to bitch about the Resistance skill in HotA, talk shit about Inferno, and arbitrarily deciding whether something has or hasn't got "soul".

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Was always wondering, what is inside these dark caves, but never visited one (not already visited by someone else) before.

>> No.5723254
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It appeared that there is a text minigame inside

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> talk shit about Inferno,


>> No.5723289

>Gabe Newell
Then he should buy only from GOG DRM-free and sudoku his own shitty rental game service.

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>good heroes
>Loynis, Adelaide
Inferno at least has Ignatius

>> No.5723354

>the fact developers used to have to release their game finished, at least on consoles, and playable without a patch because they had no way of patching it was a bad thing
In the sense that some games were released with bugs anyway, or obviously unfinished, I can see where he comes from.

It's not an excuse for "We'll just fix it later." or "The first wave of costumers can be our beta testers lol!", but sometimes a bug may not be discovered until after release (occasionally because the players will do something the devs never expected), and with PC games maybe the game has problems with later hardware or changes in the operative system, in which case being able to release a patch is not a bad thing.
On console this is more bothersome though, because usually the dev/publisher will be charged money for releasing a patch and it needs to be vetted, so it can take more time than normal, and there's a direct incentive against doing it (depending on how budget looks, or maybe they're just a small company, they might not be able to afford doing it).
Then there's the fact that only the dev can release a patch on consoles, it's not like on PC where fans can work out a patch or hack together a fix, even if the dev is defunct.

>> No.5723358

GOG isn't quite as DRM free as they claim, there's a few games they sell which still has their original DRM.

Truth is, a consumer needs to be ever vigilant, there's no one producer or outlet who will be 100% honest and good at all times.

>> No.5723384

Like what?

>> No.5723403

I am pretty sure Age of Wonders 3, Spellforce 3 and some Ubi games have some kind of DRM. You can still download the installer on your hard drive and play offline, so it's a pretty vestigal one. GOG is actually pretty insistant on the "you can download the installer and play in anywhere" option for their games.

>> No.5723521

I saw a documentary on the Hungarian C64 demoscene and the most amazing thing to me was the implication that computers were ubiquitous and completely normal to have in an Eastern Bloc nation during the late 80s and early 90s.

>> No.5723596

MOSTLY DRM-Free. Also note that to play online for Neverwinter Nights , you would also need to request for some bullshit code from GOG.

Naturally some people consider online-gameplay to be a form of DRM anyway.

Their Witcher Trading Card game NEEDs GOG Galaxy Client to work. There might be some other games that need the client to work too, but I've never installed or played them...

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How about some HoMM memes to keep the thread alive? I'll start:

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>> No.5724054

Errr.. Conflux still succs. Bad maymay.

>> No.5724943

Don't play conflux really, makes you look like a fag.

>> No.5725102

I didn't knew Spyro was in HoMM.

>> No.5725695

I kind of was always perplexed at Conflux being a thing, the idea feels like it was added to fill space.
>We're doing an expansion, and we need new content.
>New maps, new artifacts, new units!
>Great! What else?
>New heroes?
>Good, more?
>Uuuh... new faction?
>Alright, about what?
>They... uh... maybe, maybe...
>... ?
>ELEMENTALS! You know those factionless units which anyone can just go hire at their unit dwellings, what if they had a faction?
>Sounds good, we're already partially done then, let's go get coffee.

>> No.5725716

>idea feels like it was added to fill space
..because it was? After death treats over Forge.

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>> No.5725723

Forge strikes me as a more solid idea.

>> No.5725747

Well, they had to replace Forge with *something* and pretty much on the fly. And they didn't have time to come up with a completely new, complext town.
It's more like:
>this cool idea for a castle we put most of our development time into didn't work out, give me something new. i'll take anything. we are shipping next friday.
>town made entirely of neutral units? this saves us a lot of time?
>cool, elemental town, do it, you have five minutes.

>> No.5726075

So what's the story on Forged? Like just briefly, I've really only played HoMM3 and have basically no familiarity with the series as a whole or the devs.

>> No.5726083

> being against this Faction

Factory looks fucking awesome. Conflux is generic elemental design by comparison. It sucks we never got Factory.

>> No.5726224 [DELETED] 

>Their Witcher Trading Card game NEEDs GOG Galaxy Client to work.

>online multiplayer-tcg needs online-client

>> No.5726229

It was the right decision. Including it for the pre-existing lore fanboys would have completely alienated almost everybody else.

>> No.5726278

most online games run by themselves w/o an extra client prog. at least before STEAM was a thing. There were some /vr/ which used matchmaking 3rd party progs like Kali. But that was optional. How new are you?

>> No.5726331

HoMM3 is a goofy as fuck game, it's dubious if the presence of some sci-fi shenanigans would make it any more goofy.

>> No.5726404

Some of HOMM fanbois just hate the scifi canon from the MM games.

>> No.5726527

I bet you're the sort of weirdo that likes ketchup icecream too.

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As I remember, the Forge was supposed to be this cyberpunk/sci-fi town that was supposed to be added in Armageddon's Blade. You know, nagas with gatling guns an cyber-goblins with lasers. Bizarrely enough, this actually made a lot of sense in a greater Might and Magic lore, where sci-fi and fantasy intertwine each other. Inferno, or Kreegan are actually aliens from other planet - with a spaceship and all that shit.
Needless to say, first concept arts and screenshots of the Forge were leaked before Armageddon's Blade premiere and fans who played only HoMM series were confused and angry as fuck - because it apparently "does not fit the fantasy tone of the game". The fan backlash rose to such a ridiculous (and completely childlish) scale - there were literal fucking death threats aimed at the developers involved - that NWC scrapped the Forge and hastily replaced it with "more fantasy" Conflux. That's why Conflux looks like "last-minute addition". It was.

>> No.5728037

Looks the deaththreat fanbois still shitpost here >>5726527

>> No.5728831

so you're criticizing that they haven't made ANOTHER client for that game but instead integrated it into the GOG Galaxy shit?

>> No.5729359

No. You idiot. Any online game can be made without another extra separate program to install. GOG Galaxy was forced onto that Witcher game, just so they could promote the client. They also never made a single-player-only mode for the game.It was clear that the game was made to shill GOG Galaxy.
>>>/b/ Fuck off, pretending to be retarded.

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Text minigame can also be less rewarding

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These level-finish screens look nice

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Final battle against barbarian. Sorceress is next.

>> No.5731294

Because they're dirt poor and it ran on their toasters.

>> No.5731567

>No. You idiot. Any online game can be made without another extra separate program to install.
so you want it to be a browser-game?

>> No.5731608

It's not that out of place for the setting and themes, the style of HOMM3 already feels like all sorts of different themes and settings colliding.
The idea of a primitive cyborg menace arriving seems like it might be ok, just alter their aesthetics some.

It's not like the entire game would be changed to be like that.

>> No.5731850

Hah. Makes me think of how Halloween was supposed to be an anthology film series, hence why the third movie had nothing to do with the first two, but it was the 80s and tards complained it wasn't the same slasher film as the first, so we got 30 years of terrible fucking sequels wringing out Michael Myers instead of trying different horror and experimenting.

Sometimes, fans can terrible taste and judgment.

>> No.5732043

Prayer is one of the most broken spells in the game, and it has a lot of broken spells.

>> No.5732271

In his case, it's a spell that's attached to one of the least impressive caster classes in the game, to an individual who starts with Learning, a horrid skill. And Prayer isn't like Ciele's Magic Arrow, Luna's Firewall or Solmyr's Chain where it can reap huge dividends in the early-to-mid game; starting with Prayer is pointless because you don't have the mana to really abuse it and it also doesn't pack a decisively fight-winning oomph.

Also, Expert Water isn't high priority for most.

For these reasons, Loynis is somewhat pointless; Prayer is a good spell, but not broken; early on Haste will let you do most of the same things but without bleeding your mana pool. I'd take Terek over Loynis any day.

Loynis is hardly main hero material for these reasons; compare him with Jeddite/Alamar, who can possibly score a superfast Expert Earth and abuse Mass Slow AND Resurrection, and Alamar also can likely become a Scholar to teach everyone else the spell. That's way stronger.

>> No.5732617

lyonis has shitty progression, shitty secondary skills. HOMM3 is all about might heroes.

>> No.5732623

Solmyr getting to have Chain Lightning when starting is why he and the Tower faction is my favorite.
Also helps that their tier 1 cannon fodder can be upgraded to shooting stacks, and that their tier 7 assfuckers are shooters as well

>> No.5732634

>HOMM3 is all about might heroes.
that kinda depends to be fair
there are quite a few mages that are main hero worthy depending on circumstances
and in those long epic XL single player maps you usually want an intelligence specialist as a secondary hero
but most of the time yes

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>> No.5733895

holy kek

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>> No.5735792


This. Having a continuation of MM7 would've been boss and explored more of the backstory.

>> No.5736075

Pole here. What this anon writes
is spot on. Just adding my 2 cents here.

Generally speaking, while the UK, France, Germany etc. have developed over the last two decades and are still doing great economically, Poland has truly undergone a transformation. You have to remember that the game was not only released 20 years ago; it was released in a completely different reality for us here in Poland.

>Can run on potato

Very important. Your buddies couldn't laugh at you for being too poor to play a great game since most computers could handle this game and you could just have a good time together. This is connected with this:
>Hot seat can allow entire pack to play

>Gets decent localisation in Polish and Russian from the very start

Important but as kids we didn't give a shit since there was a lot of cooler stuff than the story to concentrate on. Still, it was always nice to get a Polish version of a game. BTW at some point some *really* good movie actors were hired to work on these. They probably don't remember doing that at all when they reflect on their careers.

>No need for PC, since you can just go to internet cafe and all put pocket change on the table to play all day long a match against each other

Exactly. CS 1.6 used to be the go-to game for everyone back in the day so I don't remember playing HOMM3 like that but I can definitely imagine kids spending their entire summer in those places.

>> No.5736112


What is the third artifact between pendant of mana and shackles ?

>> No.5736264

>They probably don't remember doing that at all when they reflect on their careers.
Fronczewski is always genuinely baffled when people keep asking him to do the one Baldur's Gate voice line. He acknowledges it and sometimes does it when asked, but has no feelings towards that particular line of work since he is computer illiterate.

>> No.5736293

tfw ywn achieve slav poorfag friendship levels of comfyness

>> No.5736701

If you never played a HoMM III game with 4 buddies during a sleepover, while hiding yourself and the PC under the blanket so they can't trace your moves, while at the same time being trolled by them to get you to make a mistake, you don't know HoMM.

>> No.5736710

He's baffled why so many young people like him and why he keeps getting invited to do voices in vidya over and over again in general. He legitimately does not realize he's a (positive) meme.
Also, playing through Polish version of BG2 is a sad experience, once you realize how many of those actors are already dead.

>> No.5737225

Easy choice, learning. It sucks but at least it will do something vs Eagle Eye.

>> No.5737242

Id do the same jesus christ.

>> No.5737303

So I got 1 2 and 3 on GoG the other day. This is like the third or fourth instance of me owning 2 and 3. I like the optimization gog gave me.

First thing I did was launch 2 and start a game of dominion. Switched it up a bit, played orange whiz (I usually play Yellow warlock). Is it just me, or is purple (barbarian) the last foe standing every time you play that map? Every fucking time he dominates the other players until I come in and its just me and him. Why is barbarian so OP on that map? The whole point of it is to be fair and balanced. Hell, Id say hes the worst of all since he has to traverse that desert for his resources.
All in all though, best map ever. Wish someone would port it over to heroes 3.

>> No.5739007

>get some efreet or rock elementals with me.
>cast armageddon
>1ko the opposing army everytime.
why is this okay?

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