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I would like to say something in defense of Bahamut Lagoon. On /vr/ people often shit on it because of the alleged "NTR," but it's that same "NTR" which I think makes Bahamut Lagoon so unique among JRPGs. Palpaleos s the only other Cross Knight in the game, so as Byuu you HAVE to put him in the same party as your self-insert if you want to make your MC useful, even though Palpaleos is the one who stole "your girl." I think it's really fucking neato that Square forced you, the player, to swallow your pride in order to maximize your party's potential. You can bench Palpaleos, of course, but you'd only be screwing over yourself by doing that. Not only do you have to use him, you have to put him in your MC's party! I don't think any game dev has ever done anything like this.

>> No.5701102

>>5701086
I'm on this board a lor and can barely remember the last time it was mentioned. What's an "ntr"?

>> No.5701106

>>5701102
It's a genre of hentai where the main character has the girl he likes taken from him.

>> No.5701108

>>5701102
NTR = Netorate, aka cuckolding. It's like >>5701106 said.

>> No.5701110
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5701110

>>5701106
>>5701108
Oookay. And so do you actually self insert as the character in rpgs? Is that really a thing?

>> No.5701151

>>5701086
Jokes on you I self-insert as Sendak

>> No.5701160

>>5701086
It's the easiest game ever and I don't even remember what cross knights do. The only class that matters is the one that adds mobility because you just walk around trouncing anything in your path. Thus the game is very boring. So no you don't need whats-his-face.

What is notable about bahamut lagoon is the dragon training, since you have a couple options there (though it's also terribly unbalanced which ruins that part) and the spells affecting terrain. I like how you can cast ice and freed a lake so you can walk over, for example. More srpgs should do that.

>> No.5701162

>>5701160
>freed
freeze*
sorry i'm tired
Also it's nice that you can talk to your crew between missions, too bad most of them are unlikeable

>> No.5701175

>>5701110
Some people insert themselves into the guy who gets his girl stolen yes and somehow there's a huge fetish out of it

>> No.5701182

>>5701162
agree on both. I really tried to like part of the crew but they were shit or too one-dimensional, like the girl who's a bitch to get then she's always sleeping. there's still a nice bunch of fun characters though

other things that helped terrain were using fire to set grass and trees on fire (to move faster, damage enemies) and using bolt to break buildings. fires could also be calmed down with freeze

>> No.5701757

>>5701160
Play Age of Wonders, which allows you to modify the terrain with spells too.

>> No.5701762

>>5701110
I wish, I can't use my imagination anymore. I think that part of my brain was removed when I turned elderly

>> No.5701778

>>5701086
I gotta say, if you rebuff Yoyo's advances and attempts to make Byuu fall in love with her, it is the most hilarious shit, and she will literally have sex with every other unit in your army out of frustration. There's no sting at all if you just ignore the cliche and don't get trapped by making all these assumptions about who the characters are.

And it's implied that Byuu just ends up with one of the qt fencer girls who has a crush on him instead, and that Matelite's entire opera scene is a result of Yoyo finally touching his dick, and he's the last fucking one too.

>> No.5701782

>>5701162
Idk I like the minidevils and the fencers and the bumbling assassin a lot

pay her to kill yoyo and she gets fucked instead lmao

>> No.5703096

But Princess Yoyo is borderline dead weight. Should have made her more likable if they wanted it to hurt.

>> No.5703106

>>5701175
Once you enact it irl the fetish goes away thankfully. I've moved on to harder stuff

>> No.5703180

>>5703106
You mean you had the woman you are married to seduced by someone else, or something else?

>> No.5703189

>>5703106
sounds like a wonderful idea that won't backfire at all

>> No.5703782

>>5701110
One of the biggest problems with anime and JRPGs right now is an instance on having the MC be some bland self insert for cheap harem hijinks.

>> No.5703917

>be homo
>self insert as MC
>game's "heroine" ends up with another dude
>don't care because i'm a homo
hetties just can't catch a break, can they?

>> No.5704065

>>5703917
It is funny because you can form gayness in the game

>> No.5704075

>>5703106
what do you mean by harder stuff anon

>> No.5704079

>>5704065
What games other than Japanese Azure Dreams and Bahamut Lagoon let you choose to be gay?

>> No.5704303

Gay prince in Ogre 64, (no romance though)

>> No.5704341

>>5701102
NTR is short for "Net Rally", a racing game for the MSX. (MSX is the Japanese name for the NES.)

>> No.5704358

>>5701108
Netorare*

>> No.5704475

>>5701086
Whole game has this weird empty feeling. The war is mainly useless, some places even like their ruler and bitch at you for offering them 'peace', and we feel as much for the 'big bad' and Palpaleos and see through cutscenes they have their reasons too. And of course the doomed romance. Byuu is dragonsexual anyway.