Night Slave PC-98 English Translation

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Night Slave PC-98 English Translation Anonymous Sat Jun 29 19:16:37 2019 No.5700672 [Reply] [Original]

Night Slave PC-98 EnglishTranslation

Trailer

https://youtu.be/zMNYFBFWHEc

Download

https://www.patreon.com/retronomicon_games

Same dude that translated Night of The Brain and Makyouden

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 19:19:11 2019 No.5700679

>Broken Arrow meets Mechwarrior meets an X-Rated love triangle in Night Slave (ナイト・スレイブ) by Melody for the PC-98.

>Once upon a time, a man played a mech shooter for the SNES called Assault Suits Valken (or Cybernator) and loved it. I must have more of this, he thought. I will make this exact game, but for the PC-98.

>But all was not yet right. His game was not yet perfect. It still needed something...

>Porn, he decided. Porn, nuclear politics, and a tragic love triangle. Yes, now Night Slave was complete.

>Adult Content Warning: This game has quite a few consensual (vanilla) and less consensual (bondage) sex scenes during the story sections between missions.

>Partial Translation Note: The text that lives in hard to reach places didn't get translated. You'll have to figure out death screams and what an assault rifle is on your own.

Not going to lie, this game looks pretty good compared to Makyouden was imo, prob will start playing it tonight.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:15:07 2019 No.5700964 >>5700672 >advertising patreon account in the OP buying a banner is recommended

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:19:16 2019 No.5700969 >>5700964 If you clicked it youd see all the DLs for all his shit is open and public, jump

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:20:18 2019 No.5700970 File: 259 KB, 640x400, .gif.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And why you'd really want to play the game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:20:36 2019 No.5700971 YESSSS! Fucking HYPE!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:23:27 2019 No.5700974 >>5700969 Not an argument and has nothing to do with advertising patreon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:32:28 2019 No.5700997 File: 37 KB, 640x400, NIGHT_SLAVE_121.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've been waiting for this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:37:16 2019 No.5701005 No, NO! How could you, PC-98 translator? I told "No sluts on /vr/!" And what do you bring me? SLUTS! SLUTS on /vr/!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:39:03 2019 No.5701008 Gameplay-wise how does this stack up against ASV and front mission gun hazard? >>5700970 They have dicks, right?

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:40:00 2019 No.5701010

I've finished this a few weeks ago. The beginning is pretty good, but some of the later stages get pretty bad, because they're full of twists and dead ends. There was some issue with balancing I forgot... Anyway, the game has 9 stages. The best weapon is the laser.

The sex scenes are cool. Most are yuri. There's one near the end where your character is capture by dozens of clones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:40:49 2019 No.5701015 >>5701008 >Gameplay-wise how does this stack up It is ok for a hentai game, I guess. As in, its playable.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:42:23 2019 No.5701017

>>5701008
It's a little slower, and the mechs are too big for the screen - meaning you can get attacked from outside the screen a lot of times. Also, there's a LOT of scripted sequences, and you don't know if you're supposed to be taking fire or trying to fight an invincible enemy. For example: on Stage 3 (I think), you're defending a city during an attack. Scripted artillery will randomly attack you, and with the other mechs trying to get into the city, you don't know if you have to kill them or just wait for time to pass. Usually, you have to either go back to the beginning or let the operator finish talking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:45:05 2019 No.5701021 >>5701008 IIRC, the two black-haired girls do indeed have dicks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 23:29:33 2019 No.5701094 >>5701021 This upsets me...

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 23:45:34 2019 No.5701120

>>5701008
>Gameplay-wise how does this stack up against ASV and front mission gun hazard?
I like it a lot but the final mission (which is just a bunch of boss fights) is a bit cheap as hell especially if you didn't upgrade the laser.

A lot of people complain about the low FPS rate the game runs on because of the hardware but it never really bother me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 00:59:18 2019 No.5701232 Just opened the game and watched the opening, game looks like one the best graphic wise on the PC98 from what Ive seen so far

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 01:21:44 2019 No.5701256 Judging by the trailer they couldn't even decide whether to use Erica or Erika.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 02:42:13 2019 No.5701425 >>5700672 This translator is fuckin chad The anti-Ghideon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 02:48:43 2019 No.5701438 >>5701425 He demands money and probably gives up after a few weeks?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 11:23:39 2019 No.5702112 >>5701425 3 games in about 2 months, truly is a TransBro

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 16:36:54 2019 No.5702858 File: 620 KB, 1146x720, lr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5700672 Left or Right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 16:38:45 2019 No.5702865 >>5702858 Emily. No contest.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 17:42:34 2019 No.5702979 man this shit is hard could only get to the sub boss

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 18:13:20 2019 No.5703053 >>5702865 What about the dick?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 19:23:49 2019 No.5703208 >>5700579 We got 2 Threads now

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 21:11:49 2019 No.5703476 >>5703053 Forget about it, it's 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 23:10:55 2019 No.5703718 File: 3.15 MB, 315x174, 1556147023579.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5703476

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 14:57:35 2019 No.5705104 Bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 01:01:27 2019 No.5706165 Noice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 05:05:32 2019 No.5706405 >>5700672 Action games on the PC-98 are p bad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 06:28:25 2019 No.5706468 >>5706405 What's the problem,not enough reading for ya?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 11:17:36 2019 No.5706795 >>5706405 Game looks really good compared to the 1000 VNs on the PC-98, hell looks better then most games that get translated in general lately

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 12:30:35 2019 No.5706936 >>5706468 Not enough frames

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:28:27 2019 No.5708310 >>5706936 Human eye can only see 11 Frames

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:30:18 2019 No.5708314 >>5700672 The scrolling and graphcs are trash. Night Slave is the perfect game to get a remake. Keep all the art unchanged, but bump up the battle scenes to 16 bit quality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 05:59:04 2019 No.5708870 >>5700970 how do dominatrixes fit into a mecha game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 06:06:48 2019 No.5708876 >>5708870 You may not know, but mecha and porn are deeply related. The guy who did the first mecha manga (Mazinger Z) also did the first ecchi manga (Harenchi Gakuen).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 06:12:17 2019 No.5708883 >>5708876 That's not Mitsuteru Yokoyama or Osamu Tezuka.

>>	Anonymous ~ Wed Jul 3 08:10:13 2019 No.5709013 >>5708310 4 frames per sec is enough to fool most people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 20:08:20 2019 No.5710345 Bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 06:28:21 2019 No.5711251 I searched youtube on how to defeat a certain boss and accidentally found out that the 'translation' is pretty bad. Anyone knows how to extract the story script?

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 06:32:35 2019 No.5711254

>>5711251
Some dude posted a pastebin from a texthooker here.
It doesn't include everything and occasionally you have low shield warnings but it covers the main parts.

M1: http://pastebin.com/2vBn7kWA
M2: http://pastebin.com/Y4EQSiwn
M03 - http://pastebin.com/agNqmJj0
M04 - http://pastebin.com/tzzpvP6Y
M05 - http://pastebin.com/ntrtz7Ep
M06 - http://pastebin.com/GFZBWqZR
M07 - http://pastebin.com/BbhgwkiD
M08 - http://pastebin.com/kgwycXVT
M09 - http://pastebin.com/LKr58kT4
M10 - http://pastebin.com/gAgxv7cA

What boss do you have trouble with?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 07:49:22 2019 No.5711329 >>5711251 >'translation' is pretty bad Ohno

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 07:57:09 2019 No.5711343 >>5711251 Subhuman EOPs are fine even with shitty translations.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 08:21:07 2019 No.5711386

>>5711254
Thank you so much. I got stuck in the boss with sperm like attack.

>>5711329
Let me give you some random examples, check it yourself with google translate or something:

(Rei) And now you're nothing but terrorist
【麗】あれから、ずっとあなたの事を捜していたのよ!

(Erika) We're not kids anymore Rei
【エリカ】勘違いしないで......私はもう昔の私じゃない。

(Erika) I grew up. I looked around.
【エリカ】今の私は<スレイブ・ドッグ>の一人の兵士......。

(Rei) I was always better than you
【麗】そんな事、できる訳ないじゃない!

(Erika) Oh yeah? Prove it
【エリカ】だったら、こっちから行くわよ!

The translation made Rei sounds like an asshole, she's pretty cool in the original.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 09:01:07 2019 No.5711436 >>5711386 All those sound like the translator just made up stuff. You should provide context, if there's any that can save this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 09:39:49 2019 No.5711476 excerpt from Chiho's rape scene. The translator cut a chunk of Erika's back story. https://pastebin.com/sWrv1wns Also Chiho is not a slut

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 09:49:40 2019 No.5711486 >>5711436 This excerpt is from Stage 2 if you want to read the whole thing >>5711254

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 10:05:28 2019 No.5711503

>>5711476

I was going to comment that it looked like one of those 1990s-early 2000s commercial translations, where a quarter is omitted and a quarter is made up... which I can totally understand, because sex scene dialogue is hard to translate...

...but then at around line 88, the translation went mostly into fantasy land and never recovered...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 10:15:39 2019 No.5711521 >>5711476 That is terrible. And people pay for this shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 10:20:26 2019 No.5711530 >>5711503 It's surprising he got Rei's name right since 麗 could also be read Akira, Michiru and whatnot. It's like he had a synopsis and machine translation and filled the gaps with his own ideas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 11:18:17 2019 No.5711578 >>5711530 How do we know her name is Rei anyway - it's not like there's any confirmation / voice acting

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 11:26:57 2019 No.5711597 >>5711578 >【敵パイロット】れ、麗!? >【エリカ】麗、あなたなの!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 11:32:01 2019 No.5711608 >>5711578 It's in the wiki https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIGHT_SLAVE

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 17:54:48 2019 No.5712481 >>5711386 What the fuck, almost nothing there is correct.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 21:23:15 2019 No.5712865 >>5712481 Yet there's a guy defending it in the second thread. Damn apologists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 23:32:37 2019 No.5713098 tbf he did call it a Partial Translation...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 23:36:09 2019 No.5713107 >>5711386 >>5711386 >>5711254 Someone could question him on twitter or patreon and see what he says though. Cause I just Google Translated some of it and am very confused on why its so fucked

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 23:53:09 2019 No.5713139 Retro gaming is fucking hell for OCD Original Hardware vs Emulation accuracy CRT vs non CRT Translation or learn Japanese Is it really worth it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 01:10:22 2019 No.5713253 >>5711386 >I got stuck in the boss with sperm like attack. Did you beat him? The trick is not to shoot Erika.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 01:55:02 2019 No.5713307 >>5713253 But Erika is a slut

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:20:06 2019 No.5713486
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>>5713139
The CRT question is so much more complicated when you have a handful and you are trying to get feel on which one your prefer. Old japanese computer emulation is the only way to go. Fuck trying to acquire a pc98 and maintain it. You'll have to learn nip before you venture into that rabbit hole( The OS, the floppies, trying to get some kind of bargain).

Just walk away if you can't just use what you have now and enjoy that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 13:08:48 2019 No.5713964 Bump

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 14:56:11 2019 No.5714212 >>5713139 You can learn enough basic japanese to read menus and item and quest descriptions in a year. Just do it, if you find out to be useless at least it served as a good mental workout, give it a couple years and you'll forget everything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 10:19:12 2019 No.5716287 So, if the translation in this one "took liberties", so to speak, how was his previous work?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 12:08:55 2019 No.5716493 >>5716287 Probably just as bad if not worse.

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 12:18:46 2019 No.5716514
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>>5716287
I'm not an expert in comparing translations but judging by the start of "Dead of the Brain" it's also made up to a significant degree.
One blatant change is renaming the cat from Kitty to Schrodinger but there's other complete rewrites even in just the opening sequence.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 12:19:48 2019 No.5716517 File: 42 KB, 640x400, kitty2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5716514

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 12:23:05 2019 No.5716521 File: 46 KB, 640x400, holy shit doc! you're gonna win the Nobel Prize - Nah they're gonna invent a new prize - you gotta tell the president.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 12:25:14 2019 No.5716525 File: 59 KB, 1278x1054, comparison.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 12:25:49 2019 No.5716526 >>5716517 "Why did Kitty your pet cat attack you? Did it have rabies or something" Did I get that right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 12:34:26 2019 No.5716547 >>5716525 Translation is shit, the guy either did it on purpose or doesn't know any Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 12:38:29 2019 No.5716556 File: 120 KB, 640x400, 30667.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] EOP windowlickers waited DECADES for someone to translate this for them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 12:42:57 2019 No.5716565 File: 114 KB, 1279x1038, comparison2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5716547 Probably both.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 12:46:04 2019 No.5716572 File: 122 KB, 1271x1048, comparison3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Throw the script into Google translate, see if you can turn it into something that makes sense. If that doesn't work, fill the gaps with your own ideas.

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 12:46:19 2019 No.5716573
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Cole: Ah, excuse me. I came to visit Catherine who works here. (with the implication that he's asking a question and the waitress will tell him where Catherine is.) I came to visit Catherine but...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 12:57:17 2019 No.5716586 File: 56 KB, 1272x1033, comparison6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The dreaded electric chamber - electric chair and gas chamber in one cruel and unusual punishment.

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 13:15:43 2019 No.5716638
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If someone would be kind enough to explain the readers of this thread what's different or mistranslated between these three pic related.

I'm much too tired to understand the Japanese right now...

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Anonymous Sat Jul 6 13:18:30 2019 No.5716649
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I got as far as
> hitori no souryo ga tatazunde iru.
> nani wo suru de mo naku, tada tatte iru dake no you ni mieru.
> genzai no kyouto de ha souryo no kaazu ha izen no hanbun ni mo mitanai.

and then my brain shut off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 13:25:09 2019 No.5716663 >>5716649 >”魔壊”で多くの死者を出し、魔壊を起こした怨念を封じる戦いで更に多くの死者、再起不能者を出したためだ。

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 13:28:49 2019 No.5716671 I thought some of the stuff had to be edited out because of space concerns, but it seems the guy made most of the stuff up.

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 13:40:28 2019 No.5716709

>>5716638
There's a small lake.
At the bottom of the lake is Kyoto station and the resting place of the people who were there during the apocalypse (魔壊).
But it appears some don't rest and pull passerby into the water. Whether that's true or not can't be determined.
It seems several bounty hunters tried to challenge the water monster, but they also ended up on the bottom of the lake.

Basically the part about there being a lake is correct, the rest is bogus. Some of the words match but the context between them is entirely wrong.

TL-note:
魔壊(makai) is a neologism formed from 魔(demon, magic) and 破壊 (destruction).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 13:50:38 2019 No.5716732 lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 13:51:59 2019 No.5716738 File: 25 KB, 480x360, lies.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You mean, someone would just go on the internet and post made-up translations?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 14:14:45 2019 No.5716786 >>5716738 And demand money for it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 14:32:11 2019 No.5716831

>>5716709
Thank you. That's productive.
I was tired of this thread having insinuations of bad translation quality without almost anything to back it up. Most of the comparisons posted seemed like they weren't even of the same lines. I guess this explains why.

>>5716643
> this used to be the entrance to the station.
> if you continue along the road, you'll reach the imperial garden.
> the path is sewn with cracks all over.
> I hear the subway below is flooded with water,
> and has become the lair of aquatic beings.

...I'm cutting it here because I really don't have the skill to translate the final sentence. But it does mention bounty hunters, for what it's worth.

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 14:50:04 2019 No.5716878

>>5716831
>Most of the comparisons posted seemed like they weren't even of the same lines.
That's why it's so obvious. It's not just a bad translation with your usual fuckups like missed negation, wrong objects or mixed up vocabulary, it's made up from scratch.
If it weren't for synchronizing lines like ....... you could believe it was based on a different scene or script.

I guess the longer lines in Makyouden make it more obvious.

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 17:33:01 2019 No.5717247
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「コール」「あの爆発で完全に破壊されたと思っていたが、まさか首だけ残っていたとは」

"I thought it was completely destroyed in the explosion, but amazingly the head was left."

Pay me to translate games. I won't even make up my own dialogue.

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 17:46:16 2019 No.5717272

>>5717247
Can you pump out half a dozen garbage translations a year, though? EOPs will always prefer the ESL with MTL who can pump out 5 games in the time it takes you to do 1, because 5 is bigger than 1, and translation quality isn't something any of them actually care about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 17:50:27 2019 No.5717285 >>5717272 Former fan translator here. This is depressingly true.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 17:54:32 2019 No.5717290 File: 691 KB, 720x540, this sucks.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5717272 >>5717285 You're smothering my dreams while they're still in the cradle you guys.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 17:56:12 2019 No.5717297 >>5717290 If you want money, translate fetish doujinshi for a bit and make a patreon. You'll make a lot more, with a lot less actual work. And after a few months you can just start making excuses and putting out less and less shit.

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 18:18:31 2019 No.5717351
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This one I'm a lot less sure about.

Cole: Rei's hairstyle can't be described in just a few words. I see guys with that sort of hairstyle (doing something) in front of the station a lot. Maybe Rei's (in the station as well? With/among those guys?).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 18:37:16 2019 No.5717389 >>5717351 You don't know 演奏? Assuming that's Rei, because I have no fucking clue about this game, it's just saying he looks like a rocker.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 23:41:06 2019 No.5718069 File: 47 KB, 543x170, qwdqwdqw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5718067 So what does he do? Just Google Translate it then make it make sense grammar wise?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 23:42:54 2019 No.5718071 >>5718069 Given how shoddy the work is, I can't imagine anything else. He certainly has little to no understanding at best.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 23:47:21 2019 No.5718075 The wording there is the most damning now that Ive seen other examples,"...with the default Google Translation"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 23:50:31 2019 No.5718082 >>5718075 Using Google translate even for "testing purposes" is a massive red flag in the first place. All you're going to test is the character limit, there's no reason to break out MTL at any point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 23:53:45 2019 No.5718083 t. pathetic weebs attacking an innocent translator because they can't accept their animes have writing that hilariously bad

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 00:01:46 2019 No.5718090 >>5718083 Now you're trying a little too hard.

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 00:03:53 2019 No.5718091

Absolute wow about the Makyouden lines. I'll go through them and really explain what's wrong, in excruciating detail, just to make sure you all really know what kind of "translations" some of you are celebrating. I'll directly mention what the problems are.

First here >>5716638
小さな湖がある。湖底には京都駅と"魔壊"時、そこに居合わせた人々が眠っている。
>There's a small lake. At its bottom sleeps Kyoto Station and the people who happened to be there when the 魔壊 happened.
>>5716709 has the right idea. "everyone drowned" is a real barebones guess-translation for what is said.

しかし、今も眠れぬ者がいて、通りかかった者を、水の中に引きずり込むらしいが、事実かどうかは定かではない。
>They say that even now some remain sleepless and drag passerby into the water, but whether that's true, I don't know.
Here his translation is shit. Yeah, "monster" is right, but otherwise it's guesswork. More likely there's multiple of those monsters and rather than prowling, the text gives the impression they stay near the water and drag people in. And by using the verb "sleep" the text makes it clear the monsters are some of the people that drowned in the station (the previous line). His translation omits this, makes it seem an unrelated, different monster.

幾人かの賞金稼ぎが、この水の魔物に挑んだらしいが、皆湖の底の連中の仲間入りをしたらしい事は知っている。
>I know several bounty hunters challenged the water monsters, but ended up joining their ranks at the lake's bottom.
Yeah, the translation is a completely made-up at this point. Notice the monsters are said to be 水の魔物 (water monsters) and 湖の底の連中 (guys at the bottom of the late), further reinforcing the idea it's not some prowling monster.

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 00:41:12 2019 No.5718145

Part two of Makyouden >>5716643

ここは駅前だった処だ。
>This used the be the front of the station.
Yeah, not the station itself, the area before the station. That's not the same.
ここをこのまま進めば、御苑に行き着く。
>If you'll continue this way, you'll reach the Imperial Garden.
"Easy" is misleading here. Yeah, it's easy as in "just go straight", but not easy as far as distance goes. The station and the park are actually quite a distance away. He should have just went with "continue this way" or something like that.

道路には至る所に亀裂が入っている。
>The road is full of cracks all over.
This line doesn't exist in the translation.

この下の地下鉄にも水が流れ込み、水棲生物の巣窟となっているらしい。
>Supposedly water has flowed into the subway underneath making it a den of water-dwelling creatures.
This line doesn't exist in the translation.

一部、怪盗と称する連中、賞金稼ぎの通路として使用されている。
>A part of it is used as a passway by bounty hunters and those who call themselves "phantom thieves".
Yeah, 怪盗 is what we call "phantom thieves" in English, not just common thieves. You know "phantom thieves" as in Arsene Lupin or the Persona 5 characters. Of course it would have to be translated in a way fitting with the game's context. Also the line doesn't say anything about the people coming out there, just that they use the place as a passway.

が、たまにメンバーが減ったり、その一団が全滅したりするのはご愛敬だ。
>But it's funny how sometimes groups lose some of their members or get annihilated entirely.
Instead of this line there's something completely made up. 愛敬 is "cute, charming, likeable". A rather unexpected word to use here. Gives the idea that the speaker is okay with some of those people dying there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 00:47:50 2019 No.5718158 >>5718145 ご愛敬 here is closer to "entertainment", like watching thieves die is one of the sights.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 00:52:39 2019 No.5718170 >>5718069 That doesn't explain all the changes. Some sentences have been completely rewritten just to fit his narrative.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 00:53:35 2019 No.5718173 >>5718158 Yeah, that's I went with "funny" in the English version. Writing part 3 now.

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 00:55:27 2019 No.5718178

>>5718170
Complete rewrites are pretty typical of cleaned up MTL work. The editor gets the complete wrong impression, and is confused by some lines that seem either contradictory or out of place, so he just removes them. This further muddies the meaning.

It's not that he's trying to create a narrative, it's just a case of the blind leading the blind.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 00:58:20 2019 No.5718185 >>5718067 >Let's be rude. Is that Google's idea of 失礼します?

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 01:01:47 2019 No.5718191

Part 3 of Makyouden >>5716649

一人の僧侶が佇んでいる。
何をするでもなく、ただ立っているだけのように見える。
>A monk is standing there.
>It seems he's not doing anything in particular, just standing there.
The translation of all this is just "just an old monk". Also note that the first line uses "佇む", which is "stand at one place for a while", and the second one "立つ", simple "stand". With this in mind I think it would be fine to add something like "not moving an inch" to the first line.

現在の京都では僧侶の数は以前の半分にも満たない。
>In the current Kyoto, the number of monks doesn't reach even a half of what it used to be.
The translation makes it really vague with "not very many".

"魔壊"で多くの死者を出し、魔壊を起こした怨念を封じる戦いで更に多くの死者、再起不能者を出しためだ。
>It' because many of them died during the 魔壊 and many more lost their lives or their will to live during the battle to seal the hatred (grudge) that caused the 魔壊.
Yeah, the translation is a guess that omits most of the line. 再起不能者 is tricky to translate. It's basically anyone that lost the ability to stand up in the morning again, be it because of physical or psychological reasons. I went with "will to live", but it doesn't feel perfect.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 01:05:29 2019 No.5718201 >>5718178 That doesn't explain renaming the cat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 01:44:12 2019 No.5718281 File: 63 KB, 640x400, Erica is sick of this.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5718091 To think people only discovered this shoddy quality due to a lesbian porn game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 01:53:04 2019 No.5718296 File: 39 KB, 767x229, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5718281 Dead of the Brain is no better. >>5718228 This >>5716586 is super shoddy too. He completely cut the second half about a gas chamber and smelling cyanide.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 01:53:23 2019 No.5718297 >>5715337 >Its not, this game I'm not sure what the fuck is going on. But the first 2 where fine, even slowbeef who started the Dead of The Brain translation even game the dude money for it.

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 01:55:45 2019 No.5718306

>>5718281
More people had played Night Slave than Dead of the Brain or Makyouden so it was easier to stumble across the original script.
Maybe next time a new saviour of PC98 translations shows up, better directly check if it's another scam before more damage is done.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 01:57:34 2019 No.5718308 >>5718297 Slowbeef is that SA guy who translated Policenauts, no? Maybe I'd be worried.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 01:58:03 2019 No.5718309 >>5718306 What damage? It's cringy anime hentai. You take this way too seriously, Japan can't write for shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 02:00:33 2019 No.5718312 >>5718309 Is this you, paranoia-kun?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 02:55:28 2019 No.5718383 >>5718281 I told you! I told you Erika was a slut! That's why we have the rule NO SLUTS ON /VR/! Do you understand what your "translation" has brought upon us? Divine thunder! NO SLUTS ON /VR/! PERIOD!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 05:26:44 2019 No.5718569 File: 3.19 MB, 480x320, 1537822354241.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5703053 even better

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 05:45:00 2019 No.5718583 [DELETED]

>>5701008
no they dont have a penis queer. I know you're used to everything you post and read on >>>/lgbt/ but the world outside of your queer brain has straight peoplethings also.
so sometimes you'll play video games made before 2019 and they wont be made with queers or tranny freaks in mind and it wont have scenes where you dilate like a good fake vagina queer does. So sorry not sorry but >>>/lgbt/ for yourqueer posting and does it have a penis questions. queers and retro dont go together and especially queer stuff like wanting girls to have a penis... that's a boy in drag you dumb retarded queer not a girl with a penis. get your brain fixed

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 05:58:47 2019 No.5718591
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Cole: On top of that, we also know they're after human brains. They're attacking humans to eat their brain matter. (I don't know if there's a complex reason?) that's their only instinct."

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 06:07:36 2019 No.5718597

>>5718191
>再起不能者 is tricky to translate. It's basically anyone that lost the ability to stand up in the morning again, be it because of physical or psychological reasons. I went with "will to live", but it doesn't feel perfect.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/invalid#Etymology_2

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 06:19:01 2019 No.5718606

>>5718591
>複雑な理由は判らないが、これも本能の1つだろうな。
>I don't know the complex reason, but it seems to be one of their instincts.

He isn't saying he doesn't know if there's a reason, but that he doesn't know the reason.

When の1つ is used like this, it means "one of", not "only".

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 06:39:47 2019 No.5718627 >>5718597 Cool, that seems like a good choice.

>>	Anonymous ~ Sun Jul 7 07:29:36 2019 No.5718675 >>5713139 >hell for OCD Take your pills and see a head doc, anons. Don't blame vidya for it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 17:02:54 2019 No.5719681 >>5700672 Any good pc98 games that are not porn? I know about Touhou and Madou Monogatari

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 17:05:05 2019 No.5719686 >>5719681 大航海時代

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 17:15:34 2019 No.5719701 >>5719681 rusty, which is basicly just weeb castlevania

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 18:49:51 2019 No.5719935
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The soundtrack to this game is amazing. I've never played this and listen to the OST all the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-6yaPiBFV8

Sc-88 Version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8R8hbKq_No

And a great, modern version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8HQL2Q35Q8

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 22:26:22 2019 No.5720378 >>5719935 Does anyone prefer the OPN version of the music to the SC-88? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbwSHj7dQW4 https://youtu.be/P8R8hbKq_No?t=3267 Seriously this sounded OK until the fart trumpets kicked in

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 22:59:29 2019 No.5720448

This is a very autistic and pathetic thread.
It's almost like people don't understand translations don't always have to be 100% word-for-word identical and are more based on getting the general gist across, because face it, no language is 100% equitable to another vocabulary and tone-wise. In fact, some of these "mistakes" aren't "mistakes"- they say the exact same thing except in fewer or more words. The "just a monk standing there" is a fine reduction of what was originally a redundant string of statements. And the "front" of some place can be referred to as a being part of a place lol. Some of these nitpicks don't really make sense to me unless English isn't your first language and you don't understand lack of formality in wording.
You guys better not look into some official translations like the ones for Ace Attorney because you'd probably piss yourselves and make a 50 reply thread analyzing all the ways it is incorrect.

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 23:19:59 2019 No.5720495

>>5720448
You're a pathetic apologist. The "translator" clearly doesn't know Japanese, uses machine translation, completely makes up some lines and completely skips some.

For example the grammar used the Dead of the Brain line in this picture >>5718296 is really basic, yet he completely mistranslated it.
https://japanesetest4you.com/flashcard/learn-japanese-grammar-44/
Try telling me "thinking about having a party" is the same way as "being on a way to a party". You know, the Japanese line is about thinking about organizing a party yourself in the future, the guy's guess-translation about going to someone else's party now.

How is this misunderstanding of basic Japanese defensible?

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 00:36:02 2019 No.5720618

>>5720495
Nobody gives a fuck lol
I don't know why you're pissy about it.
Play the fuckin game
You're the kind of person who would get butthurt over the Ted Woolsey translation of FFVI and recommend the god-awful literalist translations of FFVI or VII that sucks all the personality out of them.

Stop posting these weird character-for-character analyses in the threads. Nobody cares.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 00:42:34 2019 No.5720621 >>5720618 Ted Woolsey could actually do his fucking job and not just make shit up because his Babelfish translation failed him.

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 00:43:19 2019 No.5720624
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[コール」あのドラムカンの中は空洞だったな。もう調べる必要はないだろう

"Cole: The inside of that drumcan is hollow. I don't need to investigate it anymore."

Now if I were doing a proper translations I'd translate that as "That barrel is empty. I don't need to check it again". That would be what I consider altering the dialogue in a way that makes it sound good in English while keeping the original meaning. I wouldn't just literally make up my own dialogue that has nothing to do with anything.

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 00:48:44 2019 No.5720631

>>5720618
You're a pathetic shit-eater.

It's especially hilarious how you think I'd defend autistic FF retranslations. Those are probably so bad you can't even imagine. Luckily I can play the Japanese originals and avoid all kinds of shitty translations altogether.

What's clear is that eveyone should avoid this Patreon dude's terrible guess-translations. (Are you him? That's the only good reason I can imagine why you're so triggered by people exposing him.)

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 00:50:52 2019 No.5720638 [DELETED]

>>5716525
My nip isn't all that great, but...
>はははは! ゾンビとは上手い言い回しだ。いや、人間には試した事がないんで判らないが… ま、試したら犯罪になってしまうからな。わしは科学者であって医者でないのだから。
>Hahahaha! "Zombie" would be a good way to describe it, yes. No, I haven't tested it on humans, so I don't know... And well, testeing it would be a crime. I'm a scientist, not a doctor, you know.

It goes into pure fanfiction after the first line.

Also, this guy's name should probably be Cougar, not Cooger.

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 00:52:49 2019 No.5720640

>>5716525
My nip isn't all that great, but...
>はははは! ゾンビとは上手い言い回しだ。いや、人間には試した事がないんで判らないが… ま、試したら犯罪になってしまうからな。わしは科学者であって医者でないのだから。
>Hahahaha! "Zombies" would be a good way to describe it, yes. No, I haven't tested it on humans, so I don't know... And well, testing it on one would be a crime. I'm a scientist, not a doctor, you know.

It goes into pure fanfiction after the first line.

Also, this guy's name should probably be Cougar, not Cooger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 00:56:39 2019 No.5720641 >>5720640 Your translation's good. The Patreon dude's includes some completely made-up stuff about announcing. He probably got it from misinterpreting a machine translation.

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 00:59:43 2019 No.5720645

>>5720641
I just don't get it.

Google Translate:
>The zombies are a good word. No, I don't know it hasn't been tried by humans ... but if you try it it's a crime. Because I am a scientist and not a doctor.
Bing Translator:
>A. Zombies are good phrases. No, i don't know because i've never tried it on a human being. Well, if you try it, it's going to be a crime. I'm a scientist, not a doctor.

Both are MUCH closer than his shit. Are there other big machine translators that could've raped the text this badly?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 01:01:40 2019 No.5720650 File: 238 KB, 744x370, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5720640 >Also, this guy's name should probably be Cougar, not Cooger. Reminds me of one of my favourite pieces of shit translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 01:07:35 2019 No.5720658 >>5720645 It's really mind-blowing. The more you look into it the more he looks like a simple scammer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 01:08:05 2019 No.5720659 >>5720645 Maybe English isn't his native language. Could he be translating it from Japanese into whatever his native language is and then into English? Like how the famous Jojo duwang translation was from Japanese to Chinese to English.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 01:10:14 2019 No.5720668 >>5720640 Ha, this is the first time I see machine translators actually translate the first person pronoun "washi" right instead of tossing in some crap about eagles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 01:54:56 2019 No.5720728 File: 36 KB, 638x448, Dob17.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] "Cole : Woah!! How awful... There weren't any police in the broadcast room, were there?" I'm not sure if I got this one correct.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 02:18:21 2019 No.5720750 >>5720728 What are you even trying to do? You don't read Japanese by translating it into English.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 02:20:34 2019 No.5720756 >>5720750 What do you think it says?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 02:23:49 2019 No.5720763 >>5720756 コール:うわっ!! なんて事だ!! この通信室には警官が居なかったのか!?

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 03:02:25 2019 No.5720812

>>5720621
>"son of a submariner"
>"do I look like a waiter"
>"slit his mama's throat for a nickel"
lmao the delusion.

>>5720631
No, I just think it's funny you guys are going out of your way of ruining being able to enjoy a game because it isn't 100% perfectly translated. Like why are you going out of your way to not enjoy something? Are you masochists? Or just some faux-language expert kids off JET.
Do you perhaps browse /m/ because you have the type of autism I see on there a lot.
Like unironically the pretension here is ridiculous

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 03:18:52 2019 No.5720821

>>5720812
>No, I just think it's funny you guys are going out of your way of ruining being able to enjoy a game because it isn't 100% perfectly translated. This game is no fun without friends who are capable, no one likes playing... ... of jump master and can ruin your game before it's even begun. Dropping 20 seconds late and going back the way. ... so I just wait for a friend to get online before playing (it should not be like this, ..... username does not check out.

...what? You're not making sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 03:19:20 2019 No.5720824 >>5720756 Ignore the guy, he's a 50-something loser that has nothing to be proud about outside of bragging about his ability to read Japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 03:22:02 2019 No.5720830 >>5720824 Why would somebody brag about the ability to read Japanese on a board where it's nothing special?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 03:22:11 2019 No.5720832 >>5720812 Knowing Japanese probably seems pretentious to someone like you. And nothing is ruined. People now just known the Patreon dude's translations are low quality rewrites.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 03:40:20 2019 No.5720852 >>5719681 Falcom, Koei, Kogado

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 04:39:46 2019 No.5720919 >>5720448 It's fine to rephrase stuff to make it flow better. It's fine to omit some stuff that doesn't translate well. But it's a problem when the amount omitted reaches 50 %.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 04:41:58 2019 No.5720924 Also, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that Google Translate (for some unfathomable reason) gives 'Democracy' as a translation for 魔壊 and which word did the translator choose to use? 'Demonocracy'.

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 04:46:33 2019 No.5720931

>>5720919
The biggest problem is the translator clearly not knowing Japanese. You can see it with the Dead of the Brain example about a party, where he isn't able to translate a sentence that uses basic Japanese grammar pattern. It's not some complicated stuff, it's a common pattern that every textbook teaches as a set thing. It doesn't even require thinking, just knowing it and recognizing it.

And also know that you're replying to a mentally ill paranoid dude that couldn't handle the fact that many people on /vr/ know Japanese. He's shitposting in various threads like this. You can also spot him in the X68000 thread for example: //boards.4channel.org/vr/thread/5718139

>>5720924
Jesus Christ. I hope people mention all this on his Patreon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 04:49:48 2019 No.5720936 >>5720852 These and Artdink.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 05:24:55 2019 No.5720976 >>5720924 Odd, for me it's translated as "magic". I tried switching the language to Chinese but then it's Konjak for both traditional and simplified. Guess it's a bublle thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 05:31:17 2019 No.5720985 >>5720976 Try a full sentence. GT is wonky like that. > ”魔壊”で多くの死者を出し、魔壊を起こした怨念を封じる戦いで更に多くの死者、再起不能者を出したためだ。 > It is because it caused many dead in "democracy", and more dead and non-rebootable ones in the battle to seal up the devastation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 05:53:05 2019 No.5721014 >>5720985 If I put the second 魔壊 in quotation marks it turns into Devilishness and Devilishing. I'd really like to know how it gets democracy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 05:59:51 2019 No.5721020 File: 37 KB, 1300x354, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5721014

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 06:05:18 2019 No.5721029 >>5721020 I wasn't doubting it. I was curious about the algorithms and data he based the translation on.

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 06:06:19 2019 No.5721031

>>5720931
I am seeing this pop up and it doesn't seem like there is some boogeyman who can't handle Japanese in these threads, the link you have is just someone, possibly you, randomly mentioning this mythical person, not really evidence. Did someone criticize your Japanese or something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 06:09:20 2019 No.5721037 >>5721031 It's a recent phenomenon. According to the guy, everybody who knows Japanese is 50 years old.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 06:12:23 2019 No.5721045 File: 9 KB, 938x125, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5721031 It's this guy >>5720448 >>5720576 >>5720660 >>5720685 In other words, it's likely you denying your own existence. Seek help.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 10:05:39 2019 No.5721282 I miss when /vr/ was a place for decent discussion betwween mostly older anons that only very occasionaally devolved into /v/-style "if you like something I don't like you're the cancer killing the board" faggotry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 13:15:24 2019 No.5721529 >>5721045 >>5720931 Ironic how you inaccurately jumped to the conclusion that those were all the same poster, all while calling him paranoid... Go take your meds.

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 13:26:10 2019 No.5721550

>>5721282
I can guarantee you that no matter the time frame of /vr/, if someone figured out the translation sucked, people would (rightfuly) complain. I`ve been using this board since 2014 (not that that`s when I joined 4chan) and if I saw this hot garbage of a translation back then, I would rightfully trash it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 13:27:36 2019 No.5721558 >>5721550 I was referring to that guy posting shit like this >>5720660

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 13:39:51 2019 No.5721583 >>5721529 Some of those were a guess. You do exist though. In that deleted post in the screenshot, and in the post in this thread saying translations don't matter, if nowhere else. And the fact that other people learned Japanese keeps you up at night.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:14:52 2019 No.5721767 I think the fundamental problem with this machine translation garbage is that the guy has a FUCKING PATREON for it. Having a fake translation is one thing, but there's no excusing asking for money to do them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:19:29 2019 No.5721776 >>5721767 At least the Nana guy releases one translation every 5 months. This guy did what, 3 translations in 2 months?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:19:46 2019 No.5721779 >>5721767 He's doing more than just using machine translations. Machine translations are closer to the actual script. Aside from taking money the biggest issue is leaving your customers in the dark on what you actually do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:22:10 2019 No.5721783 >>5721583 No, the deleted post and the translations don't matter are both not me. I guess you don't have everything figured out after all. Do you intend to keep being this retarded?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:26:03 2019 No.5721793 File: 37 KB, 676x266, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This article about the game also mistranslates "Cougar" as "Cooger". Coincidence or something more sinister? http://www.ceiling-gallery.com/blog/2015/10/31/dead-of-the-brain

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:26:59 2019 No.5721797 >>5721779 Yeah, he's not even honest about it, and that's ultimately the point where it crosses into fraud with Patreon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:27:44 2019 No.5721798 >>5721793 There's a sign spelling it as Cooger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:30:04 2019 No.5721806 >>5721776 He did 0 translations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:30:45 2019 No.5721810 File: 156 KB, 835x264, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5721798 So the Japs don't know how to spell English words properly. Shocking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:33:59 2019 No.5721815 >>5721810 It's a name. Neither Cooger nor Cougar appear to be actual last names.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:35:12 2019 No.5721816 >>5721806 The Nana guy was also pretty fishy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:37:27 2019 No.5721823 >>5721815 The characters in the game are supposed to be American, hence why they have names like Cole, Catherine, Terry, Cougar, etc... Are you being stupid on purpose?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:39:55 2019 No.5721831 >>5721823 Cougar is an animal, not an actual name in America, at least not a family name you put on your door.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:41:52 2019 No.5721840 >>5721831 The game is also fictional and written by Japanese people who probably don't actually know American last names. His name is Cougar and is spelled as such in Japanese. They just didn't know how to spell it in English.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:44:22 2019 No.5721846 >>5721840 His name is spelled クーガー in Japanese. There is no reason why it should be Cougar and not Cooger if both names are fictional.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:47:21 2019 No.5721849 >>5721846 Occams Razors tells me it's probably the existing word and not the misspelled version of it that doesn't exist in any language.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:52:10 2019 No.5721865 >>5721849 Then it's Kuger, which is an actual name.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 15:56:30 2019 No.5721875 >>5721865 Then the arseclown that made up the translation is wrong and so is the article.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 16:00:23 2019 No.5721892 >>5721875 It's perfectly normal to use the spelling shown on the screen instead of trying to reason why it's wrong. If you want to complain about names, in Night Slave he translated ラーニャ as Lana and ノッティー as Noti.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 16:01:22 2019 No.5721894 >>5721865 Then why isn't it クーゲー then?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 16:03:54 2019 No.5721902 >>5721892 What's wrong with Lana tho? I get Naughty, but Lana?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 16:11:53 2019 No.5721915 >>5721902 How is Lana even close to ラーニャ? ラナ is what's normally used for Lana.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 16:14:59 2019 No.5721919 >>5721894 Because that's not how Katakana transcription works. You can't slur an R into ゲー. The alternative would be クーゲル.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 16:44:08 2019 No.5721968 >>5721045 That wasn’t me? Lol what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 16:52:38 2019 No.5721990 >>5721968 Try to ignore her, it's literally a schizophrenic person always shitting up the board trying to hunt down the boogeyman. She goes apeshit like this at least once a week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 16:56:11 2019 No.5722000 File: 68 KB, 564x717, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Look at these idiots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 17:01:32 2019 No.5722016 >>5722000 Someone below that posted a comment linking to this thread saying you shouldn't give him any money. Let's see how long it takes before he deletes those comments.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 17:02:54 2019 No.5722019 >>5721990 How do you know it's a girl? lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 17:15:29 2019 No.5722040 >>5722019 Just guessing from how she acts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 19:29:34 2019 No.5722440 >>5700672 Is this Yuri?

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 22:11:31 2019 No.5722698
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Suddenly noone is this guy, lol.

I guess the gig was up, now he has to deny everything. It's probably disconcerning people noticed his patterns. No wonder he deleted his post in this thread.

Better luck with your next persona, bucko.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 22:33:43 2019 No.5722729 >>5722440 Yuri, Futa

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 22:36:50 2019 No.5722735 >>5722698 You are literally mentally ill, my friend. I hope you get the help you need.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:00:10 2019 No.5722782 >>5722698 Well it’s nice knowing only schizophrenics are shitting up this thread with their obsessive-compulsive translation annotations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:20:06 2019 No.5722817 >>5722735 >>5722782 I'm very confused by your attitude. If translation accuracy doesn't matter to you, why even wait for the game to be translated in the first place? Why not just play it in Japanese and make up your own dialogue?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:29:56 2019 No.5722829 >>5722817 I was referring to your rambling about "patterns" and "denial" and obsession with boogeyman

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 23:56:34 2019 No.5722856 >>5722735 >>5722782 >>5722829 You reverted to apologism again? At this point I feel sorry for you and other apologists like you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 00:27:05 2019 No.5722913 >>5722856 Yet again, you're confusing multiple people as being one. You are literally paranoid and crazy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 02:30:50 2019 No.5723125 File: 1.06 MB, 1128x651, brain.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cole: Compared to the others, this guy's bleeding a lot. Killing people in such a cruel way... these monsters are heartless. That'll be $1000 a month on Patreon, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 03:50:17 2019 No.5723205 >>5722856 What are you talking about. I'm not all those posts

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 04:34:01 2019 No.5723238 >>5723125 To be fair he didn't make that much money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 05:12:25 2019 No.5723267 >>5722913 >>5723205 The translation is bad and you all need to face that fact.

>>	Anonymous ~ Tue Jul 9 05:52:08 2019 No.5723295 >>5720624 Thanks. Pls work with patreon guy to make quality patches!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 06:11:14 2019 No.5723317 >>5723295 The Patreon guy would be nothing but a hinderance.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:38:09 2019 No.5723931
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「コール」話しかけたところで脳が無いじゃ返事は出来ないだろう

Cole: Even if I talk to him, he can't answer without a brain.

Maybe add a little humour. "He doesn't look like he has much to say" "I don't think he'll be doing much talking without a brain" "I don't think he can talk without a brain. Then again a lot of people manage."

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:55:18 2019 No.5723971 File: 67 KB, 550x372, crying.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5711386 >(Erika) I grew up. I looked around. >【エリカ】今の私は<スレイブ・ドッグ>の一人の兵士......。 Holy motherfucking jesus, how can you defend this translation?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:58:16 2019 No.5723978 >>5716526 By far closer than the actual translation, but basically yeah

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 14:01:00 2019 No.5723979 >>5723931 Sounds good to me

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 14:21:48 2019 No.5724008
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「コール」何か火薬のような臭いがする、ここは武器庫かな。こう暗くちゃ何も見えない。

Cole: Something smells like gunpowder. This must be the weapons storage room. It's so dark I can't see anything.

I'm really curious to read this game in Japanese and then compare it to the "translation" to see what sort of weird shit the guy made up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 14:25:07 2019 No.5724017 >>5720650 What's wrong with Jambo?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 14:27:56 2019 No.5724019 File: 9 KB, 688x193, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5724017 It's supposed to be Jumbo. You know because the dog's big?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 14:28:40 2019 No.5724020 >>5724019 Jambo is Swahili for Hello.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 14:31:16 2019 No.5724027 >>5724020 And?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 14:32:13 2019 No.5724029 >>5724027 Jumbo is American for big.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 14:33:53 2019 No.5724030 >>5724027 Jumbo was an elephant. Dogs and elephants are only remotely related.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 14:45:35 2019 No.5724040 >>5720650 GATTSU

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 15:50:15 2019 No.5724142

It's silly to bicker about how a name should be in English. You need to understand how the Japanese mash a foreign name into their writing system, and then try to reverse it. This task always needs some artistic discretion.

As long as it roughly matches the pronunciation, and doesn't look stupid, it's good.

Cooger is fine. Cougar is fine but is a tad stupid.
Kuger could work too.
Also, Lanya and Nottie would be my choices.

I mean, we're not talking about Belldandy here. These names are not references to Norse deities, are they?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 16:04:06 2019 No.5724160 >>5724142 When I said it should probably be spelled Cougar, I didn't know it wwas actually written out as Cooger in the actual graphics somewhere. If there's an established spelling in the actual game, of course that's the one you should use.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 16:08:38 2019 No.5724168
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>>5724160
Do you think that was how they intended it to be spelled or did they just not know how to spell Cougar correctly? Because I can show you plenty of examples of Japs butchering English spelling.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 16:11:50 2019 No.5724172 >>5724168 Cooger sounds enough like a real name I don't see any reason to assume it wouldn't be the one they intended.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 16:14:49 2019 No.5724175 >>5723971 Holy shit someone please give me tools to work on this game. Night Slave does not deserve to be butchered like this. I'll do it for free and release it here, anonymously. I can't stand this anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 16:17:57 2019 No.5724179 >>5724175 That only encourages such reckless behavior.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 16:19:47 2019 No.5724185

>>5724179
You guys can look at it and make fun of it if it's shitty. I have nothing to gain or lose, there's no ego or money involved. I am only volunteering because I've been watching dumbasses butcher visual novels I like for 5 straight years. I'm fed up with this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 16:20:40 2019 No.5724187 File: 918 KB, 1125x653, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5724172 They also wrote "President" on the police chief's desk. Do you think that's what they meant? Or did they not know the proper English word?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 16:26:51 2019 No.5724205 >>5724185 And that will lead to even more butchering because they think somebody is going to clean up after them.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 16:34:49 2019 No.5724219

>>5724187
Names of positions and titles are notoriously difficult to get right in translations because different languages use different systems and you can't just look up in a dictionary what English speakers call "that guy who's the big boss of the police". It's easier today because you can google shit and see which combinations you actually get hits for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 16:45:29 2019 No.5724240 >>5724205 Only if the material is actually hard to translate. PC 98 games really aren't.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 16:59:04 2019 No.5724263

>>5724240
So you are willing to translate thousands of PC98 games just because some kid released a rewrite?
You aren't even get the shit out of the world that way. People keep sharing terrible, broken patches years after fixes have been made.
Best we can do is try to get it taken down before it spreads too far.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:14:52 2019 No.5724294 Why do people post Japanese text with an English translation but without clarifying whether that's the unofficial translation or their own translation, and if so add a second translation to use as a comparison?

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:22:10 2019 No.5724319

"He took the magic sword, and went on the adventure."
NOOOO! It's supposed to be
"The sword he took could do magic, and so then he went adventuring"
Who fucking cares, these games all have the most basic, boring, generic, retarded writing anyways. And yes, I mean ALL. I've played a lot of these old Japanese games, even with a butchered translation no one is missing anything of substance. Sorry hipsters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:32:24 2019 No.5724356 File: 1.07 MB, 1123x653, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5724294 「コール」こ、これも死霊達の仕業だって言うのか? ドック!! Cole: D-do you think the zombies did this as well, Doc? That's my translation and it's 100% correct. I dare anyone to correct me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:35:09 2019 No.5724362 >>5722000 how so?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:37:57 2019 No.5724369 File: 26 KB, 640x480, 121237.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5724362 >how does giving money to a scam artist make someone an idiot.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:38:47 2019 No.5724372

>>5724356
The point is that your post is pretty much pointless. The people who are able to translate it already read the language, thus rendering any translation pointless.

What people are interested in is knowing what the "good" translation would be like when compared to the machine translated translation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:40:15 2019 No.5724376 >>5724356 >Cole: A-Are you saying the zombies did this as well, Doc? In the absence of any other context, this is more accurate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:44:00 2019 No.5724384 >>5724376 Luckily we have context. Doc doesn't say anything in that scene. https://youtu.be/X65Qf3LdwAU?t=2550

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:49:29 2019 No.5724397 >>5724319 Unfortunately for your falseflagging ass, this "translation" would've rendered it as "He found a sword on the ground and thought it might be worth money, so he decided to take it back home and sell it."

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:50:14 2019 No.5724401
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Well shit, I was excited to play the game in English finally but I'm not dealing with a literal machine translation. Back to waiting.
>>5720378
To be fair, the SC-88 Pro isn't the intended device to listen to it on. I actually don't know what is, the soundtrack is just "Roland GS" compatible. An SC-55 mkII is the most likely, but it could have been made on an SC-88, or some GS compatible keyboard. I just used what I had on hand to record the soundtrack, though I've expanded my setup a lot since then.
If anyone's interested, I could give the soundtrack another record but use a more professional synth with GS support like the Fantom XR. It won't be studio quality per se but it's as close as you can get with GS music - definitely better than a Sound Canvas since those have their samples compressed and chopped up to fit into a minuscule amount of ROM.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:52:43 2019 No.5724405 >>5724356 >ACTHUALLY

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 17:55:36 2019 No.5724410 >>5724401 It's not a "literal machine translation", it's completely made-up bullshit with the occasional line here and there somewhat resembling something that was said in Japanese.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 18:31:05 2019 No.5724497
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「コール」ここは署長室のようだな。荒らされた様子もなく、死霊はこの部屋に入っていないようだ。

Cole: This looks like the chief's office. (It hasn't been broken into?) I guess the zombies didn't come in here.

I'm not sure about 荒らされた様子もなく.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 18:50:48 2019 No.5724538 >>5724497 Also no sign of invasion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 18:56:48 2019 No.5724552 File: 28 KB, 666x446, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5724538 I'd still go with "broken into" since it sounds more natural in English. I guess the literal English translation would be "Not in a broken into state"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 19:10:49 2019 No.5724598 >>5724497 >This looks like the chief's office. And it's in a pristine state, so I guess the zombies never entered it. 荒らされた様子 is fairly broad and can mean anything from "completely destroyed" to "just had some chairs knocked over".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 19:18:19 2019 No.5724634 >>5724598 Or better, >This looks like the chief's office. And it's in a pristine state, so it doesn't look like the zombies ever entered it. It's not so much that he thinks so than that it's the logical conclusion of the earlier statement.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 19:29:33 2019 No.5724669

>>5724401
i'd be interested. already liked the sound of the one linked in the other thread.
some feedback on that one, assuming it was yours, is that there was slight stuttering every so often. an example is in the track "night slave" at 0:28. didn't say anything in the other thread because i didn't want to be a shitter and also didn't want to point out something that folks might not be able to unhear (and maybe it's somehow just on my end), but if you're giving it another pass then maybe this would be useful info now.

>>	Anonymous ~ Tue Jul 9 19:33:17 2019 No.5724679 >>5723317 Pls make translation patches for all my fav PC98 eroges for free, japanese teachers of this thread!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 21:06:25 2019 No.5724890 This is already free. Even if they're mediocre y'all don't need to pay shit to Patreon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 21:07:24 2019 No.5724892 File: 889 KB, 1124x657, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 「コール」この国籍を見ていると、つくづくアメリカに生まれてよかったと実感するな。 Cole: When I look at that flag, I feel glad I was born in America. GOD BLEZZ DE BURGERS :DDD

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 21:17:53 2019 No.5724906 >>5724401 I've tried several of the sets in Hoot and it just kind of seems to me that they sometimes chose weird instruments to use for the tunes - the OPN version of Chiho is the only one that doesn't kill it using fart trumpets

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 22:19:57 2019 No.5725028

>>5724669
That other dude is somebody else, he got around to uploading the MIDI soundtrack on an SC-55 before I even got to buy one for myself. I only did the SC-88 Pro upload.
I'll report back with a new upload soon as I can figure out how to get my Fantom XR into GM/GS mode - if it works then it should hopefully be the best sounding version of the music, assuming Roland didn't royally fuck up mixing on it like the did with a few other synths.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 23:20:21 2019 No.5725162 >>5722729 Futa isn't yuri.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 23:31:36 2019 No.5725181 >>5724679 /vr/ needs to set up a nippon moonrunes school for us all

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 23:40:28 2019 No.5725198 >>5724319 The Patreon translation is made-up shit and everyone knows. Seek mental help to help you deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 23:41:43 2019 No.5725201 >>5724372 There are posts in this thread doing just that. For example the Makyouden comparison ones.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 00:44:35 2019 No.5725286 I see no experts here, just "this is what I think it says" and rarely any reason on why or how. Bunch of hacks everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 00:51:36 2019 No.5725303 >>5725286 A really pathetic attempt. Why and how? Because that's what the words mean. Your beloved Patreon dude doesn't know any though.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 00:57:30 2019 No.5725315
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>>5725286
No one in this thread is claiming to be an expert. Nor would they need to be. I'm N3 at best and can read 90% of Dead of the Brain. You want me to break down sentences and explain them word by word?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 00:59:12 2019 No.5725319 >>5725315 Don't bother replying to that idiot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 01:02:55 2019 No.5725331 >>5725303 Any reason to assume it's not him? I've seen people defend shit translations but they normally don't doubt that the translations are shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 01:07:39 2019 No.5725342 >>5725331 I hope it's not him. He himself has to know his own translations are made-up and based on misunderstood machine translations. Knowing that and still coming here to defend himself. C'mon, no one can be that delusional.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 01:10:40 2019 No.5725347 File: 112 KB, 900x900, unnamed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5725342 >no one can be that delusional. Maybe he's mentally ill. It could be like a Terry Davis thing where God/the voices in his head are telling him how to translate games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 01:11:04 2019 No.5725348 >>5725342 And he released them that way without informing anybody, not even his patrons. You know how far people are willing to go for $70 a month.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 01:14:34 2019 No.5725357 >>5725347 Terry was /ourguy/ though. This guy not so much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 02:06:54 2019 No.5725475 >>5725162 2 of the antagonist characters are Futa, the rest aren't.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 02:26:15 2019 No.5725516 >>5725315 >No one in this thread is claiming to be an expert. except the retard claiming HIS translation is obviously better, while not making a rom for it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 02:30:51 2019 No.5725524 >>5725516 Literally anyone can tell it's better by just tossing the nip into Google Translate. Go back to your Patreon and damage control there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 02:35:00 2019 No.5725529 >>5725524 >Literally anyone can tell it's better by just tossing the nip into Google Translate. you should run a patreon then, if you're so clever

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 02:35:15 2019 No.5725530 >>5725516 Dilate, you entitled fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 02:36:16 2019 No.5725531 >>5725529 Dilate.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 02:44:27 2019 No.5725543
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>>5725516
As I've already said, I'd be happy to break down my translations and explain them word by word if you don't trust me. There are also other people in this thread who understand a lot more Japanese than me who can vouch for my accuracy or point out inaccuracy.

[警官」ん?ちょっと待ってください。今の声はあそこの冷蔵庫の辺りから聞こえてきませんでした?

Police officer: Huh? Wait a minute. Did you hear that voice coming from over by the refrigerator just now?

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 02:50:47 2019 No.5725554

>>5725516
If he was making mistakes, people would jump on it as an opportunity to brag about their N2 Japanese. I know I would.

The wording might not be perfect, because it never is and people have different opinions on that kind of shit, but I don't think he's made a mistake worth noting yet. These games have very simple Japanese in the first place, which is what makes it even funnier that the guy who actually worked on them managed to fuck the whole thing up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 02:53:02 2019 No.5725558 >>5725554 and yet, he did translate the game and the only thing you did is to complain on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 02:56:56 2019 No.5725567 >>5725558 Buddy, you have to put translate in quotes or something. He didn't "translate" shit, he rewrote a work he couldn't understand. If you want to play some random dude's reimagining of these games because you're an EOP, go nuts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:05:56 2019 No.5725574 >>5725567 EOP here, is the original text some kind of special or will the writing be bland either way?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:11:45 2019 No.5725582 >>5725543 Your translation's good. >>5725558 Noone owes you anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:13:36 2019 No.5725586 File: 110 KB, 480x480, tenor.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ITT

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:14:25 2019 No.5725589 >>5725574 No, every example I've seen in this thread is just normal Japanese.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:14:54 2019 No.5725591

>>5725574
Translations done by most people will be bland, because what is interesting in Japanese isn't interesting in English, and when you stick with fairly literal interpretations like >>5725543, the meaning is retained but not the tone. You have to add your own flavor to approximate the original.

I haven't played these games so I don't know how good the writing actually is, but I'd rate DotB about a 5, Makyoden about a 7, and NS about a 4/10, just on the basis of the random posts I've been reading. They could all be well above these scores, that's just the impression I get from a few lines here and there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:16:37 2019 No.5725595 >>5725586 Does other people really knowing Japanese really bother you so much? You were worshipping this Patreon scammer, but now you're acting like the games he translated are crap that doesn't deserve accurate translations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:18:55 2019 No.5725601 >>5725591 >the meaning is retained but not the tone. You have to add your own flavor to approximate the original. True. I can translate but I'm not a good writer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:22:06 2019 No.5725608 >>5725595 litteral translation doesn't always work. You often have to readapt some expressions because all language are differents.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:22:12 2019 No.5725610

>>5725591
>>5725601
Being a good writer newer was the point of the translations in this thread. The point is that the Patreon dude's translations are terrible.

Don't get dragged in the EOP tranny's spiral of "why didn't you make a patch for me" and other similar cries.

Of course if for some reason you decided to actually make a patch, you'd need to put it million times more effort to make it both correct and sound good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:23:32 2019 No.5725613 >>5725608 The Patreon scammer completely rewrote or cut pretty much every line. Don't act like he's doing any sort of adaptation.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:24:42 2019 No.5725615

>>5725610
>>Being a good writer newer was the point of the translations in this thread.
Oh, for sure, I'm just making that clear for the EOP. It's easy to assume writing is bland just because a translation is too literal, because you can't read the original and have no point of comparison.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:29:49 2019 No.5725625 >>5725613 >The Patreon scammer completely rewrote or cut pretty much every line how would that even work?

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:36:42 2019 No.5725634

>>5725625
His translations are made-up crap based on machine translations.

That was already showcased in this thread. For example, he traslated the word 魔壊 as "Demoncracy". 魔壊 is a neologism made from 魔 (devil, demon) and 破壊 (destruction). Except Google Translate, for some reason, translates it as "democracy" (see here >>5721020) in the sentence it appears in the game. In reality, it has nothing to do with any form of goverment, just demons and destructions. Yet the Patreon dude went with demons and democracy.

There's also a comparison of three scenes from Makyouden in this thread. All three are full of rewrites and cut lines.

I dunno what the Patreon dude was thinking. He probably didn't do any self-reflection at all.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 03:58:08 2019 No.5725665
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「コール」ヘッドホンをしていたせいで、何も聞こえなったのだろう。いきなり背後から死霊に襲われたらひとたまりもないな。僕も気をつけないと

Cole: He couldn't hear anything because he was using headphones. The zombies attacked suddenly from behind and he never stood a chance. If I'm not careful...

And the right is the Patreon guy's translation. I got it from the trailer he released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdQK-fQaGWs

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:05:31 2019 No.5725671 >>5725665 His translation of that line is better than yours, even if it doesn't mention the zombies explicitly. 僕も気をつけないと is not a fragment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:08:23 2019 No.5725673 >>5725671 Is $77 a month on Patreon really worth the complete loss of your dignity?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:12:24 2019 No.5725678 >>5725665 >He couldn't hear anything because he was using headphones だろう is important here, man. He PROBABLY couldn't hear anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:14:33 2019 No.5725680 >>5725673 No. The translation is utter trash overall. But that particular line, and that one alone, was better the way the Patreon scammer worded it.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:19:39 2019 No.5725684
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>>5725665
>>5725671
A line so simple even machine translation gets it.

And what do you mean 僕も気をつけないと is not a fragment? It is a commonly used shortening.
http://web[dot]ydu.edu[dot]tw/~uchiyama/conv/shinai.html
>しないと。［省略形］: 主おもに話はなしことばで使つかわれる。
I'd say it's completely fine to end the English line with ... cause both in Japanese and in English there's something obvious left unsaid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:22:22 2019 No.5725686 >>5725613 Based on examples you yourself have provided that’s not true lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:22:39 2019 No.5725687 >>5725680 >No. Yet here you are making a fool of yourself.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:24:31 2019 No.5725691

>>5725684
>both in Japanese and in English there's something obvious left unsaid.
There's nothing left unsaid in the Japanese version. That's a very standard, natural way to end that clause. It's not trailing off like the English is. I understand why you think it is, but that's simply due to your inexperience with the language.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:25:08 2019 No.5725692 >>5725686 Is this how you rationalize the money you gave him? And why didn't you reply to this >>5725634 Because his usage of machine translation is way too obvious in that case?

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:29:58 2019 No.5725697

>>5725691
>There's nothing left unsaid in the Japanese version.

Clearly these is when it's a 省略形. And don't tell me
>If I'm not careful...
doesn't end a clause in the same way. It's not like anyone in that situation would be confused by what the speaker means.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:43:00 2019 No.5725728

>>5725697
Listen to how actual Japanese people sound when they say it. 気をつけないと is just the end of the sentence, no one expects it to continue after that. Japanese doesn't work the same way as English in that regard. Something like "I need to be careful..." would be closer to how the text reads in Japanese.

Anyway, I'm not trying to tear you down here. Just treat this as a learning experience.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:45:45 2019 No.5725731 >>5725728 >Something like "I need to be careful..." would be closer to how the text reads in Japanese. And that's not trailing off?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:47:46 2019 No.5725735 File: 849 KB, 1129x656, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 「コール」ハアハア... やはり脳が要点だったか。この事をドク達にも知らせてないと Cole: panting Just as I though, the brain is their weak point. I have to let doc and the others know too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:49:28 2019 No.5725740 >>5725728 You're talking to multiple different people and I doubt any of them are going to take your incorrect advice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:49:33 2019 No.5725742 >>5725731 No, because the sentence is complete in that case, not stopping in the middle. It would also be fine (better, probably) to simply omit the ellipsis altogether.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:49:47 2019 No.5725745 >>5725731 The xないと phrasing is usually just translated as "I have to x" or "I must x". It's not trailing off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:53:18 2019 No.5725750 >>5725731 Not any more than the "that's" you used in your post is slurred speech. It's just common shortform.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 04:53:21 2019 No.5725751

>>5725735
Here the ... wouldn't fit even if it's the same grammar point しないと. But I'm okay with it here >>5725665

>>5725745
No shit, that's what the site I initially linked explains. But the first example really gives the "I have to do x (be careful)... or I'm toast" vibe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 05:49:44 2019 No.5725852 >>5700679 >based mecha gameplay >porn Sounds fucking awesome. If only there were more companies this enlightened.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 05:52:09 2019 No.5725857 >>5708876 >You may not know, but mecha and porn are deeply related. Tell me more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 08:32:50 2019 No.5726084 >>5725516 >while not making a rom for it. A DOS ROM?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 14:59:53 2019 No.5726694 Well PatreAnon has lost about 15-20 dollars since people caught on to what was going on, and still no word from him since someone commented about it being a scam... I think the dream is over boys

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:02:09 2019 No.5726703 >>5726694 Clearly he's preparing his next masterpiece.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:06:52 2019 No.5726727

>>5726703
tbf I really did enjoy Dead of The Brain, even if some of it was just made up translations. But after some of the shit people have posted side by side where in some cases its complete nonsense and even character motivations are different like in Night Slave its just a fucking shame.

But, even though alot of people wont agree with this, Ill take a it over completely nothing

But I wont be throwing money myself at it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:10:08 2019 No.5726739 >>5726727 >Ill take a it over completely nothing That's a false dichotomy. You have more options than to play the game with the fake translation or not playing it at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:25:06 2019 No.5726786 File: 72 KB, 696x1148, dekinai_chan_by_unzipstaco_dczyh4n-pre.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5726727 > Ill take a it over completely nothing Most untranslated games will never even get a made up translation. Just learn.

Cammar Wed Jul 10 16:15:41 2019 No.5726935

Now that's a shame. PC-98 is already pretty damn obscure as it is. There are tons of translations for many other system, but this one seems to have gotten a short end of the stick. I just hope that, in spite of their low quality, these translations will manage to inspire someone with technical know-how and good Japanese command to do a better job.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:17:42 2019 No.5726939 >>5726786 Can't somebody make a tool that automatically inserts fake translations? Make it randomized to increase the replay value.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:22:46 2019 No.5726954 >>5726935 PC98 is the end of the rabbit hole. Once you get there, learning Japanese is the only practical choice. Most translations are for surface level stuff like Famicom and SuFami, even Saturn or PCE don't have much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:32:45 2019 No.5726985 >>5725665 This one is fine, some of the other examples where much worse

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:34:12 2019 No.5726989 File: 892 KB, 1133x656, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [コール」あのカバーについてるマークは大手の建設会社のものだ Cole: That logo on the covers belongs to a major construction company. Is it just me or is this game very easy by visual novel standards?

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 18:22:13 2019 No.5727296

Am I the only one to absolutely not care if the translation is accurate, or even partially made-up, as long as I can understand what's going on?

Working Designs have been fucking up the boring original dialogues for the best, so I'm not blaming this guy.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 18:29:10 2019 No.5727314

>>5727296
>Am I the only one to absolutely not care if the translation is accurate, or even partially made-up, as long as I can understand what's going on?

I can read it in the original language so it doesn't bother me that the English translation is shit. I just want to spread awareness and make sure people know this guy's trying to scam them. After that if they're still fine with shit that's their choice.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 18:30:56 2019 No.5727315

>>5727296
>Am I the only one to absolutely not care if the translation is accurate, or even partially made-up, as long as I can understand what's going on?
I care some, although there's certainly different levels of quality I'm willing to accept for different games. But ultimately when I play a game I want to experience the game itself, not a fan's bad re-interpretation of it, so I want the translation to at least be decent.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 19:36:01 2019 No.5727468 >>5726727 >But, even though alot of people wont agree with this, Ill take a it over completely nothing Nigger it IS a complete nothing. You can literally just play it in Japanese and make up a story as you go, it's the same as what this guy did.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 19:38:30 2019 No.5727473

>>5727296
>One of the many great things about languages worldwide is the sizeable number of words for which there is no real English translation. Often they tell us about concepts and ideas that we are missing out on in the anglophone world.

This is true, but I don't see what it has to do with this game.

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Anonymous Wed Jul 10 19:46:48 2019 No.5727506
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Not knowing a lick of Japanese there was nothing that struck me as odd in the Dead of The Brain translation, but just 3 missions into this it immediately feels very fucking off. Like each sentence doesn't connect with the previous. I mean the story does seem fucking silly and meaningless to begin with but, what a bizarre fucking read

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 19:53:38 2019 No.5727531 >>5727506 Turns out it's more difficult than you'd think to bullshit up a coherent set of text to go with the gameplay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 20:19:49 2019 No.5727582 I wish all these limp dick losers here would band together and just translate and hack this shit so there's something not worth complaining about.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 20:39:38 2019 No.5727619 File: 418 KB, 1130x654, dead.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5727582 「シーラ] きっとこのホテルに避難した人達も殺られてしまったんだわ。 Sheila: The people who took refuge in this hotel were probably killed as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 20:42:22 2019 No.5727624 File: 418 KB, 1130x654, dead.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5727582 「シーラ] きっとこのホテルに避難した人達も殺られてしまったんだわ。 Sheila: The people who took refuge in this hotel must have been killed as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 22:36:22 2019 No.5727845 >>5727582 Don't be entitled.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 22:38:12 2019 No.5727851 >>5727296 Lol, why not make up your own story then? It'll be the same experience as playing with this guy's patches.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 00:27:42 2019 No.5728105 File: 438 KB, 1130x655, dead.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 「コール」3階もここと一緒だよ!シーラの言ったように、ここに避難した人はみんな死霊に食われてしまったんだ! The other 3 floors will be exactly the same. It's like Sheila said, everyone who took refuge here was eaten by zombies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 00:42:04 2019 No.5728141 >>5728105 3階 is "the third floor" not "three floors".

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 00:44:19 2019 No.5728153 >>5728141 Thanks.

Cammar Thu Jul 11 00:59:41 2019 No.5728190

>>5726954
Yeah, it's mostly Nintendo's consoles that have been covered well so far. Everything else - not so much, maybe except for the Mega Drive and GG. When there's VA involved, dubbing is the usual go-to method also, because adding subtitles to PCE games is a massive PITA, apparently. Still, all of this doesn't excuse making up script, since anyone could do that. Doing so could obscure the message and some hints completely.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 01:13:04 2019 No.5728213 >>5727582 How about you take the effort and actually learn Japanese instead? https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 09:31:38 2019 No.5728807 How many Patrons has he lost?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 11:12:01 2019 No.5728985 >>5728807 me like 1 third into this thread. also if anyone is curious why this thread is argumentative/shitty, i linked him to this thread specifically as the reason why I dropped support.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 17:42:57 2019 No.5729836 >>5728985 I think it was obvious to anyone that there were literal shills here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 19:09:13 2019 No.5730013 Unsubscribed today. Those Night Slave comparisons are especially damning. Damn shame.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 19:42:20 2019 No.5730089 I feel like no one in this thread understands what a localization is. Or has analyzed an actual official industry translation compared to belittling this one

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 19:58:15 2019 No.5730124 >>5730089 You're free to eat shit. Just stop trying to convince other people that it tastes good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 21:27:47 2019 No.5730342 >>5728807 >>5728985 >>5730013 Man, he must have really regretted doing this game now - no one would have learned his deception if it wasn't for Night Slave

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 21:49:45 2019 No.5730420 >>5730089 I feel like you're a shit-eater defending a machine translation-based rewrite by someone who doesn't know Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 21:59:50 2019 No.5730457 >>5730089 Name a single official release that was "localized" in this manner. One.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:03:29 2019 No.5730471 >>5730457 digimon cyber sleuth

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:18:47 2019 No.5730519
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>>5727296
Because people that claim that translations need to have liberties taken with them or else they end up stiff and boring are just making excuses to cover for their own lack of ability. While it's definitely true that some things just don't translate and some changes are needed to make it understandable for people who aren't fluent, those moments usually aren't THAT common and it's no excuse to use it to take a hacksaw to a script either.

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:37:35 2019 No.5730542

>>5730089
When I started learning Japanese I thought it was a good idea to read manga in Japanese and English side by side. I quickly gave up on that because there were omissions, additions and errors obvious to even basic beginners. It didn't matter if it was old or new, commercial or fan-made, all translations I tried sucked.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 03:55:55 2019 No.5731054 >>5730542 Well it's nice someone in this thread has actually done this comparison thing before this thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 04:03:49 2019 No.5731065 Wow so this dude is actually a hack? Dang, who would've thought weekly game releases were fishy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 04:08:38 2019 No.5731071 >>5731065 3 translations in 2 months. What do you think?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 05:01:27 2019 No.5731136 >>5730519 The first translation is absolutely terrible, you have to localize your shit, otherwise it's weeb shit.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 06:00:35 2019 No.5731186

>>5730089
It feels like (you) don't know what localizations are either. Localizations are a translation of the sentiment behind the Japanese sentence without losing any important details and making sure culturally relevant terms are changed to those the target audience will recognize and respond to in a similar fashion to the original language's target audience.

That's not what happened here. These "translations/localizations" or whatever you call them, are mostly made up sentences that don't even relay the base sentiment behind the original Japanese sentences, much less the relevant details. There's really no defending the translation part of these releases, and calling them localizations is also disingenuous.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 08:43:45 2019 No.5731392 >>5730519 vid related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIGoHS_UYwA

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 20:44:45 2019 No.5732589 >>5731392 Not as related as you think.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 21:40:33 2019 No.5732691 >>5731071 I don't think speed is the issue here. Coming up with an original story takes as much time as translating.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 01:23:41 2019 No.5733067
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コール:この箱の中で死霊が来るのを持っているのも一つの手だが、シーラが待っているんだ。早めに死霊を片付けて部屋に戻ろう。
Cole: One (something) is waiting for the zombies in the box to come out. But Sheila's waiting so I better deal with them (preemptively) and get back to the room.

What does 一つの手 mean in this context?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 01:28:43 2019 No.5733078 >>5733067 One option https://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/一つの手段

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 01:54:11 2019 No.5733109 >>5733078 That's 'one way of doing it', the quote he posted is 'on the one hand.... on the other hand...' I wonder if whoever posted that question understands the context though? Like what the dude is even talking about?

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 02:09:27 2019 No.5733123

>>5733109
No I don't think it is. It sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.

"I could wait for the zombies in the box to come out (waiting would be one option/thing I could do) but Sheila's waiting so I better deal with them (go and kill them instead of waiting for them to come to me) and get back to the room."

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 02:32:47 2019 No.5733149 >>5733123 Or better, "on one hand, I could wait for the zombies in the box to come out, but..."

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 02:38:59 2019 No.5733162 >>5733067 手 here is meaning 9 from here. https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/148831/meaning/m0u/ >9 事を行うための手段・方法。「きたない手を使う」「その手は食わない」「打つ手」 >>5733109 Sorry bro, you're not right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 02:41:05 2019 No.5733164 >>5733067 手 here is meaning 9 from here. https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/148831/meaning/m0u/ >9 事を行うための手段・方法。「きたない手を使う」「その手は食わない」「打つ手

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 13 19:52:33 2019 No.5734845 bump

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