/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5699412]

What game has the best 2D animation of all time?

[Anonymous No.5699420]

>>5699412
Not retro, but Cuphead obviously. Darkstalkers 3 does look really nice though.

[Anonymous No.5699425]

>>5699412

First games that come to mind are Mark of the wolves and Street Fighter 3

[Anonymous No.5699543]

Dragon's Lair or Space Ace

[Anonymous No.5699553]

Dragon's Lair, easily.

Weebs will deny this.

Fact: Japanimation is based on cutting corners, whereas Western animation is not.

[Anonymous No.5699797]

Heritage for the Future, or maybe Island of the Seven Winds Story

[Anonymous No.5699868]

3rd strike

[Anonymous No.5699890]

Vampire Savior, Garou, Street Fighter 3

[Anonymous No.5699902]

>>5699553
Nearly all Western animation looks like puke. In the West it seems to be an artistic avenue that draws mostly terrible artists since the Disney and Warner Bros. golden eras. Cuphead succeeds because it's a throwback to when Western animation was good.

[Anonymous No.5700106]

>>5699797
>Island of the Seven Winds Story
neat, hadn't seen this one before.

[Anonymous No.5700110]

>>5699902
stay furious shitter

[Anonymous No.5700115]

>>5700110
Stay a meme.

[Anonymous No.5700165]

The Adventures of Lomax

[Anonymous No.5700245]

>>5699553
>Japanimation is based on cutting corners, whereas Western animation is not.
Does AKIRA ring a fucking bell to you?
Dragon's Lair is nice, but far from the best the west has to offer.

[Anonymous No.5700473]

>>5699412
Metal Slug 3. How is this even a question?

[Anonymous No.5700513]

>>5699425
>street fighter 3
rotoscoped trash

for op's question probably one of the late 90's/early 00's neo geo games

[Anonymous No.5700518]

something by SNK obviously

[Anonymous No.5700570]

>>5699553
>Fact: Japanimation is based on cutting corners, whereas Western animation is not.
Many decades ago. Now western animation is Flash shit.Ok, I known that the Japanese use some cheap techniques too, like 3D models, but even the worst anime isn't bad as most current western cartoons.

West entertainment is not even relevant anymore.
I mean, what is Mickey next to Pokémon? What is Batman next to Anpanman?

[Anonymous No.5700572]

>>5699412
Vampire Savior, Garou, Metal Slug (any of the first 3)
AOF3 looks great too, but it's rotoscoped

[Anonymous No.5700576]

>>5699412
In terms of purely animation I say Breath of Fire IV. There are games that have better sprites but its animation is unmatched.

[Anonymous No.5700665]

>>5699412
For fighting games? Probably Art of Fighting 3.

[Anonymous No.5700671]

>>5700245
If Akira was actually representative of anime, instead of being an outlier, I would actually like the medium.

[Anonymous No.5700705]

>>5700245
>>5700671
Akira the film is really only impressive solely from an animation stand point, it is mind blowing though. The plot os an absolute mess, though its understandable since the source material is just way too massive of a story to adapt to a single film. I really recommend the manga, I read it after enjoying the film and find it much better. The plot males far more sense there and it has tons of major characters and other plot points completely cut from the film.

[Anonymous No.5700707]

>>5700671
But western animation made exclusively for theatres (like the case of most early 20th century stuff) is also not representative of most western animation. Stuff made for TV is always cheap and tries to cut corners everywhere, especially weekly stuff.

[Anonymous No.5700712]

>>5699902
It's not even up for discussion: Japanese animation is usually awful.
Just so you know, artstyle =/= animation. Akira has wonderful animation, Disney has wonderful animation. But a lot of animes are literally the character moving just their mouth and nothing else during conversations.

OT: I was really surprised with SNK's animation, so I would go with Garou too. I really enjoyed SNK vs Capcom.

[Anonymous No.5700714]

>>5700712
I think you could say that TV animation is usually bad, be it japanese or western.
Then again, you have TV stuff like Batman Animated Series or Cowboy Bebop that break the mold.

[Anonymous No.5700717]

lots of beautiful snk fighting games, and of course metal slug

[Anonymous No.5700720]

[Anonymous No.5700753]

[Anonymous No.5701362]

>>5699553
he said games not movies

[Anonymous No.5703593]

>>5700245
Akira is literally the only piece of anime animated on ones.
Western animators animate on ones if they can, twos if they need to really cut budget - while Japanese TV anime is almost always made on threes. That's fucking trash.

[Anonymous No.5703596]

>>5700720
Those are just like 3 looping frames. It's pretty artwork, sure, but it's barely animated at all.

[Anonymous No.5703598]

>>5703593
American cartoons these days are absolutely pathetic looking. And don't bring up the french, they aren't animating shit.

[Anonymous No.5703664]

>>5700570
>What is Batman next to Anpanman
lmao

[Anonymous No.5703720]

>>5699553
>>5700570

The fuck are you talking about? There's low budget TV animation and High budget film animation both in the west and east, and there always has been.

Dragon's lair looks so good because it's short and the makers figured they would make the money back in quarters (they did), the entire point of that game was that you were playing a movie, DL also reuses a lot of animations for Dirk and has repeat scenes.

Any anime TV show will cut corners wherever it can for the sake of time and money, and anime movies look good because they have time and money on their side, literally the same as in the west where TV shows (see pic related) cut corners and movies like The Lion King do not.

[Anonymous No.5703784]

I quite like Art of Fighting 3 but really any late 90s early 00s Neo Geo game will be stunning.

[Anonymous No.5704018]

>>5699412
Darkstalkers is certainly up there, as is Third Strike, but a lot of KoF games are up there. XIII isn't retro but damn if it isn't some good sprite work

[Anonymous No.5704094]

>>5703720
Dragon's Lair's footage adds up to about 21 minutes give or take, going by the laserdisc. Plus they charged twice as much to play the game. Decent animation ain't cheap. Plus the whole thing is a big QTE so it's sort of cheating to put it on the same playing field as a regular game. Then again, people who would sing the praises of Dragon's Lair as an arcade game are the same people accusing modern games of being interactive movies.

[Anonymous No.5704096]

>>5700714
>Then again, you have TV stuff like Batman Animated Series or Cowboy Bebop that break the mold.
Another clear illustration of the gap in quality between post-70s Western and Japanese animation. The West hasn't been able to compete in decades.

[Anonymous No.5704120]

>placed pixels
Street Fighter 3
>scanned paper art
Probably Cuphead

>>5700513
>rotoscoped
You're a dumb nigger because the art isn't even scanned so it literally can't be rotoscoped.

[Anonymous No.5705308]

Pretty sure Skullgirls has the highest frames of animation in a 2D game.

But the real answer is Third Strike

[Anonymous No.5705318]

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[Anonymous No.5705327]

>>5705308
If heaven exists, it must be lying in bed naked with Mariel.

[Anonymous No.5705330]

>>5705308
Skullgirls also has the record of gayest piece of shit ever made.

[Anonymous No.5705671]

>>5699553

pink pilled and open rectum

[Anonymous No.5705674]

>>5699412
Super tempo

[Anonymous No.5705676]

>>5705330

skullgirls fucking sucks. Its a shame. Wasted potential.

[Anonymous No.5706185]

>>5704120
>dumb nigger
what were you were saying again bitch? better respond

[Anonymous No.5706193]

I actually don't find 3rd Strike very impressive. The heavily-rotoscoped animations clash with the cartoony art style. Granted this is a bigger problem with certain characters than others, such as Elena and the twins.

The best-looking Capcom fighting games are, in my opinion, Street Fighter Alpha 2 and Capcom vs SNK Pro.

[Anonymous No.5707848]

>>5706185
You don't know what rotoscoping is. You don't know how sf3's development process precludes rotoscoping as a possibility. You're too blind to see things as obvious as Elena's tits dangling about clearly different from your supposed live action source.
Why do you even post?

[Anonymous No.5707953]

>>5706185
>that static head on a fluently animated body

Creepy...

[Anonymous No.5707954]

>>5699420
>PS filters the game
>animation

[Anonymous No.5707959]

>>5707954
If only there was an option to turn them off in the settings in fact there really is and I'm being ironic you idiot.

[Anonymous No.5707963]

>>5707959
>I'm being ironic you idiot.
Ok

[Anonymous No.5710317]

>>5707848
either bait or retard cope

[Anonymous No.5710616]

>>5700720
If the thread was called "which fighting games have the best stage backgrounds" then yes, you'd be right.