/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5694272]

>that Zoomer saying games these days are too expensive

[Anonymous No.5694284]

Those were in 90s dollar so if you take inflation into account they were actually cheaper than today where the dollar is ruined because President [redacted] destroyed America.

[Anonymous No.5694306]

>>5694284

Are you being serious right now?

[Anonymous No.5694314]

>$70 for a SNES game
vs.
>$100+ for a complete 2019 game or $60 for its barebones version
Not a really good comparison.

[Anonymous No.5694316]

>>5694284
Holy shit you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.5694340]

>>5694314
$70 in 1994 would be around $120 today.

[Anonymous No.5694352]

>>5694340
Fair enough, but at least everything you paid for came in the box.

[Anonymous No.5694354]

>>5694340
>1994
>DK3 wasn't released until 1997

[Anonymous No.5694372]

>>5694352
I came in ur moms box roflmao

[Anonymous No.5694373]

>>5694272
>Buying a snes when PlayStation / N64 were already / just about to be out
Sucked to be that kid

[Anonymous No.5694386]

>>5694372
Dad? You finally got those cigarettes you went out for?

[Anonymous No.5694491]

>>5694284
Bush? Obama?

[Anonymous No.5694543]

>>5694491
Everybody since Nixon. Obama and Bush tied for 1st place though.

[Anonymous No.5694561]

>>5694272
$50-$60 game + $50 season pass (yearly)
Or
$100 upfront.

[Anonymous No.5694572]

>>5694272
They are. For what you get (lower quality product versus 90s games) it is vastly overpriced. Due to how little gameplay is in modern games and how they are mostly hand holding interactive movies $15 seems like the max most modern games should be.

[Anonymous No.5694575]

>>5694491
Obama's the one who started all this race war bullshit. Going on TV and literally crying like a pussy over some black kids that got shot but when whites do he doesn't even mention it. Pure crocodile tears to push his agenda. We wouldn't have domestic terrorist groups like BLM now if he didn't stir the pot.

[Anonymous No.5694576]

If this trend keeps up in 10 years we'll be forced to pay 200+ dollars for the full game and 60+ for a one shot demo.

[Anonymous No.5694589]

>>5694576
Ground Zeroes already established that precedent. $20 for the demo (GZ), buy the full game (MGSV) later, with a shit load of DLCs to boot.

[Anonymous No.5694616]

>>5694272
b-b-but they should be $1 now because I only want to pay $1

[Anonymous No.5694705]

>>5694272
>>5694340
Paid $80 for Final Fantasy III back when it came out

[Anonymous No.5694710]

>>5694705
Jesus man, how did SNES games go that high?

[Anonymous No.5694723]

>>5694575
Oh you watch Fox exclusively. Got it. Obama called out every school shooting, which are predominantly white kids getting shot. But let me guess, crisis actors?

[Anonymous No.5694731]

>>5694723
This has got to be a false flag, right? Even Cult of Obama NPCs aren't that retarded. Also, fuck off back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.5694732]

>>5694306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvUQcnfwUUM

[Anonymous No.5694770]

>>5694272
Globalization was in an earlier state then and there was no standardized price for games. Generally, imports from japan were more expensive

[Anonymous No.5694775]

>>5694284
t. paul krugman

[Anonymous No.5694784]

>>5694272
69 DORRA?!

[Anonymous No.5694842]

>>5694284
Is this... did you...

Did somebody actually put effort into their trolling for once?

[Anonymous No.5694891]

>>5694723
But how many did he cry for on national let alone world-wise TV, all while we're at war with ISIS? He looked like a little sissy bitch in front of the entire world and our enemies. ISIS was laughing their asses off at how weak we look as a country thanks to him.

[Anonymous No.5694923]

>>5694732

>Haha jokes on you, I was only pretending to be retarded!

[Anonymous No.5694938]

>>5694284
>*rattles tits* UMMMM WEN ACCOUNTING FOR INFWASHUN

[Anonymous No.5694941]

>>5694710
Storage space was very, very expensive back then. A 2MB or even 4MB cart would've been much more expensive to manufacture. After the CD became commonplace the cost of data dropped like a rock, and now you can get terabyte hard drives for barely anything.

[Anonymous No.5694962]

>>5694272
>$110 for UMK3(1997-2018)
Holy fuck, I bought that. Still worth it though, put hundreds of hours into it to satisfy my 12-13yo dopamine needs.

[Anonymous No.5695043]

>>5694284

this is why we should never have containment boards, because this bullshit is never truly contained

[Anonymous No.5695070]

Yep. My parents had a policy that if my brother and I got good grades at school, we would be rewarded with video games. My brother when he was in elementary school was very good at it so we had over a dozen SNES games.

This was back when my dad had his decent paying programming job and my family was not into expensive vacations across the country or overseas so it worked out.

[Anonymous No.5695103]

>>5695070
based dad

[Anonymous No.5695127]

>>5695070
>tfw my kids ask for Fortnite V-bucks instead of games

[Anonymous No.5695137]

>>5695127
please tell me you aren't serious

[Anonymous No.5695151]

>>5695070
At my peak I had about 20 Regular Nintendo tapes in my stack and about 12 Super Nintendo ones (though those didn't stack so they went in the drawer under the TV)

My family wasn't very rich but two factors helped
1. My dad liked games
2. There was an early game trade store in my small city

[Anonymous No.5695157]

>>5695137
Not him but hes dead on. I've given my nephews prepaid cards just so they can buy bullshit on roblox and fortnite. I always remind them how dumb they are every time i see them.

[Anonymous No.5695185]

>>5694272
Holy shit, that lineup looks terrible. Take away Yoshi's island and DKC and it's literally all shovelware.

[Anonymous No.5695191]

>>5694372
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ROFLMAO

[Anonymous No.5695197]

>>5694723
Hahaha obama is the GOAT right? I like all his drone strikes on civilians

[Anonymous No.5695198]

>>5694272
Average price on this page is $56. Adjusted for inflation using 1992 USD, the average is $100 2018 USD.

Really glad games are considerably cheaper now.

[Anonymous No.5695209]

>>5695070
Based family. Remember to thank them for a great childhood when you have the chance desu

[Anonymous No.5695212]

>>5694284
>Inflation means money is more as time goes on.

Bingo! You got it Anon. Glad to see not everyone slept through macro.

[Anonymous No.5695240]

>>5694543
>>5694575

Inflation was lowest under Obama since WWII. Not that presidents control inflation anyhow, since the Fed is quite independent by design. Plus, recessions normally produce lower inflation, and he got the biggest recession since the 1930s. We actually had deflation in 2009.

As for BLM, that's more of a cultural phenomenon. A study of Obama's public speeches show he brought up race less than any president since Carter. People just dragged him into it more and we're more sensitive about it.

[Anonymous No.5695272]

>>5695209
Except that I was beaten for feeling overwhelmed with work and for fighting back against bullies. If I was ever assumed to have been cursing at school, I was beaten and forbidden from playing video games regardless of dipshit faculty, ghetto trash at school, and my parents cursing at anything.

The games were more like compensation for not letting me homeschool and being around for me since they were more focused on work.

It is one of those cases where it was glamorous looking in but living it came with heavy prices besides money. Also, some games I would not be able to finish because my dumbass brother traded in most of our stuff so it would not be until GBA and other ports that I would get to finish a complete playthrough of some of those SNES games like FF4 and FF6. My brother would just say that emulation is better.

Still, the games were a nice reward for all the stress I had to deal with at public grade school and despite the fact that I would have learned better as well as complete facts and more accurate narratives if I had been homeschooled or gone to alternative tech schools.

[Anonymous No.5695294]

>>5695272
Iktfb I have a son myself and am terrified of being tied so much to work that video games raise him. FF2 (US) was the shit though, the escapism was real too.

[Anonymous No.5695310]

>>5694284
>all of these triggered ass replies
go back to redit or leftypol you faggot cocksuckers

[Anonymous No.5695317]

Look at it in terms of wages and hours worked needed to buy a game. Unskilled labor paid about $5/hr in 1997. You would have to work 12 hours without any deductions to buy one SNES game.

Today with $15 as the average unskilled labor wage you can buy a new game ever 3 or 4 hours of labor (again leaving out taxes and other deductions).

Game prices have not really gone up much in last 20 years, and within 6 months their retail price drops to $30 or less. Last years games are all in the $19.99 bin at Walmart. They are cheaper and easier to get (proportional to hourly wage) than at any point in history.

[Anonymous No.5695416]

>>5695317
>15 dollar average labor wage

No

[Anonymous No.5695429]

>>5694723
Piece of shit, your favorite president drone striked children like it was nothing, and you actually think that man has any compassion?

[Anonymous No.5695441]

When I was a kid, it was VERY rare for my parents to buy me new games because of how fucking expensive they were. The trade-off is that there was no "eBay prices" back then, so it was pretty easy to get pretty much any game for a few bucks used, as long as it wasn't brand new. I got most of my SNES lineup from a garage sale for like 5 bucks each.

[Anonymous No.5695453]

>>5694941
>Storage space was very, very expensive back then.
This so much. My HDD was a few dozen MB and I remember thinking how huge it was because it could save millions of characters. When I got a CD-ROM it was such a game changer. 700MB? Who could ever use this much space?

[Anonymous No.5695460]

>>5695429
>your favorite president drone striked children like it was nothing
no u

[Anonymous No.5695467]

>>5695272
>Except that I was beaten
extra based family

[Anonymous No.5695483]

>>5695416
Red states voted to keep away higher wages, so they have to work longer for their video games.

Millions of other Americans live in places with $15 minimum wage or are in the process of implementing it. Larger retailers like Costco and Amazon already pay this. Walmart averages $14/hr nationwide even in the flyover states that would otherwise pay around $8.

[Anonymous No.5695595]

>>5695043
jej

[Anonymous No.5695750]

>>5695151
Did people literally think that cartridges were like cassettes with a spool of tape inside, I'm sure some people did. I remember some people were so dumb that they thought you could get epilepsy from seeing a video game for one second.

[Anonymous No.5696408]

>>5694284
That's got to be a new lap record for fastest destroyed thread. At least it wasn't a good thread to begin with.

[Anonymous No.5696482]

>>5694284
cap sux lol

[Anonymous No.5697124]

>>5694272
they are tho

[Anonymous No.5697161]

>>5695750
>Did people literally think that cartridges were like cassettes with a spool of tape inside, I'm sure some people did.
I think it's more likely they didn't understand the "tape" part of cassette tapes.
>I remember some people were so dumb that they thought you could get epilepsy from seeing a video game for one second.
No you don't. Nobody ever thought that.

[Anonymous No.5697434]

>>5695750
Maybe. Ask your gramps about 8 track. Or ask /vr/ to google it for you.

[Anonymous No.5697697]

>>5694272
launch prices were too high to make up for the absolutely flourishing rental and secondhand markets

instead modern games supplement titles, which can be 20 dollars in a month, with mxt and dlc. but preorder culture gets them the up-front launch sale anyway thanks to last gen making it the normal epic gamer thing to do.

[Anonymous No.5697732]

>>5697161
>>I remember some people were so dumb that they thought you could get epilepsy from seeing a video game for one second.

This was really common in the 80s and persisted in some circles in the 90s. When "Pac fever" was at its height people were very keen to blame colorful games for everything terrible. Why do you think so many games have epilepsy warnings on them?

[Anonymous No.5697737]

>>5694284
DKC2 release 1995 at $59.99

in 2019 that’s = $100.81

did you even think about what you said or do you just spout random stuff you are ignorant about and feel proud of it?

[Anonymous No.5697741]

Here are some pages from 1993. Ops catalog page is 1997. Surprising not a huge depreciation considering the SNES was obsolete in 07.

[Anonymous No.5697745]

>>5697741
Genesis for reference.

[Anonymous No.5697748]

>>5697741
"Obsolete in 97", not 07 obviously meant to say.

[Anonymous No.5697756]

>>5697741
>a 3rd party pad for more than the Nintendo one

[Anonymous No.5697757]

>>5694491
Both.

Bush = dude lets enact the CRA and have everyone default on their loans because giving loans to people who can’t afford to pay them back is a great idea!

Obama = dude lets just print trillions of dollars out of nowhere to pay for all the free shit people want but refuse to pay more in tax on, this definitely won’t hurt the value of the dollar in trade and cause everything to be more expensive, nope nope nope!

[Anonymous No.5697759]

>>5697756

Those were actually pretty good though, I had a megadrive version of it.

Had turbo and programmable macros.

[Anonymous No.5697765]

1990 Sears catalog.

[Anonymous No.5697768]

>>5694314
>$60 for the base game and $400 for the complete collection
So many games like this now, some of them are actually pretty good. Always pirating those.

[Anonymous No.5697771]

>>5697745
>>5697741
The thing that bugs me the most is the price of the controllers. Even when factored for inflation they're significantly cheaper than stuff today. Better build quality too. The only broken sega/nintedo controllers I've ever seen were broken on purpose. Compared to modern controllers which break all the fucking time.

[Anonymous No.5697773]

>>5694272
Are those Canadian prices?

[Anonymous No.5697775]

>>5697765
Holy shit I've never seen this NES Organizer before. Now I want it like nothing else.

[Anonymous No.5697776]

1980 jc penny

[Anonymous No.5697782]

>>5697773
Canadafag here. Our game prices were $70 to $90 in the 16 bit era. The most I ever paid for a video game was $99 for might and magic on genesis.

[Anonymous No.5697804]

>>5697745
Sege was a very aggressive competitor while Nintendo was very slow to adapt to the changes happening in the market, although they still had a very big advantage inherited from the previous generation. We really have Sega to thank for why games are so cheap today.

[Anonymous No.5697806]

>>5697732
>Why do you think so many games have epilepsy warnings on them?
jfc you really are a dumb fucking cunt aren't you?

The flashing in some games can give some people, especially those with an epilepsy diagnosis, seizures. That's the reason for the warnings. TV heavy with special effects can give seizures also - everyone has heard of the Pokemon episode with heavy flashing that aired in Japan that a lot of people got seizures from. The tv code tends to be very strict about such stuff so people with epilepsy can watch tv without having to be concerned, however flashing occurs in videogames so much that it's sort of tough shit for them.

[Anonymous No.5697810]

>>5697732
>Why do you think so many games have epilepsy warnings on them?
jfc you really are a dumb fucking cunt aren't you?

The flashing in some games can give some people, especially those with an epilepsy diagnosis, seizures. That's the reason for the warnings. TV heavy with special effects can give seizures also - everyone has heard of the Pokemon episode with heavy flashing that aired in Japan that a lot of people got seizures from. The tv code tends to be very strict about such stuff so people with epilepsy can watch tv without having to be concerned, however flashing occurs in videogames so much that it's sort of tough shit for them.

I am more confident than ever now that noone has ever thought that watching videogames for 1 second "gave people epilepsy", you just made that up.

[Anonymous No.5697813]

This one is the best. I bet Atari was pissed.

[Anonymous No.5697839]

>>5697810
k

[Anonymous No.5698171]

>>5697810
my parents and relatives literally thought that if my grandparents walked past the tv with a video game on that they would instantly fall down and have a fit, people were really dumb back then.

[Anonymous No.5698175]

>>5697771
>Even when factored for inflation they're significantly cheaper than stuff today
Because they were simpler and cheaper to make. No wireless, no analog control, no rumble, no nothing. That simplicity also gave them longevity because there was just less to go wrong.

[Anonymous No.5698186]

>>5697810
The Pokémon episode had more to do with kids sitting alone in a dark room with their faces against the screen. It's why anime now tells you to back the fuck away from the TV and turn the lights on.

[Anonymous No.5698193]

>>5698175
Well for me and my friends the parts that go wrong the most are the parts that have always existed in controllers, the wires and the buttons. Its not the analog, or the rumble, or even the gyroscope that fails. Its always the fucking shoulder buttons or the wire breaks internally.

[Anonymous No.5698213]

>>5697810
Okay retard. People in the 80s and 90s didn't have the internet to instantly prove bullshit claims wrong.
People believed this kind of retarded stuff all the time.
Koreans actually believe a ceiling fan will kill you in your sleep by sucking our all the air in your lungs despite having the entirety of the internet and industrial history to tell them otherwise.

Never underestimate the capacity for people to be retarded

[Anonymous No.5698218]

My grandmother thought if you put your face too close to a microwave while it was running, you'd get cancer.

[Anonymous No.5698265]

>>5698218
Only if you were microwaving 4chan posts

[Anonymous No.5699205]

>>5694272
Games are much cheaper now.

[Anonymous No.5699357]

>>5697771
>Compared to modern controllers which break all the fucking time.

I call BS. I used to own a psx and they break down a lot more than you think. Analog buttons broke, the wiring inside get scrambled that the buttons keep pressing indefinitely, sometimes they just flat out stopped working etc. And these are the original controllers rather than the cheap chink knockoffs im talking about.

the only problem i had with a modern controller is that the batteries keep popping off because its cover is faulty and and the shoulder buttons become hard to press or just barely work properly after 5 years of extensive use. the dualshock 4 i have right is still pretty much working flawlessly after a year

[Anonymous No.5699428]

>>5694306

[Anonymous No.5699746]

It's pretty beneficial to learn surface japanese for games since they are always much cheaper (n64 games in japan you can get cartridge only for 500 yen. Online usually under 20 bucks depending the game).

Kind of shows how artificial the western pricing is. Kirby 64 is a game that barely uses any use of language yet the two are so different in price.

[Anonymous No.5699752]

I remember going up north as a kid and seeing Donkey Kong Country selling for 100 Canadian Loonies.

However, Playstation and PC games were 50 USD. The 60 USD standard is a 6th gen thing. CD games were actually originally cheaper. But, just like with digital, companies realized they don't actually have to pass the savings made in manufacturing on to the customer.

[Anonymous No.5699993]

>>5699205
stop eating this shit lie, people had more money back then

[Anonymous No.5700023]

>>5698186
is that why anime replaced the old flashy effects with that ugly ass motion blur for high speed scenes?

I remember in Dragonball kai most if the redrawn scenes were the flashy effects ones in the original dbz

[Anonymous No.5700039]

>>5694842
Go back to youtube and take your redditspacing with you.

[Anonymous No.5700407]

>>5695272
>I would have learned better as well as complete facts and more accurate narratives if I had been homeschooled
Do you really believe this?

[Anonymous No.5701356]

>>5699746
>surface japanese
Nah bro. Everythings better down where it's wetter

[Anonymous No.5701519]

>>5694272
some games are more than half the price of the system. Crazy

[Anonymous No.5701563]

>>5697775
My thoughts exactly. Those infrared wireless controllers looked neat as well.

[Anonymous No.5701569]

>>5697771
>>5698175
>>5699357
I don't understand why people say controllers used to be much better in the past. I guess they're fine if you play them on original hardware and they're not busted internally from dirt or broken contacts but seriously, any modern controller works better for both sidescrolling and 3-dimensional games. Whether it's on a handheld like the 3DS or controllers like the Wii U Pro controller, one of the Switch Pro controllers or the Xbox One controller, every button whether analog or digital responds perfectly to whatever I push while my old Gameboys, SNES controller and N64 controller aren't even CLOSE to modern alternatives in regards to touch response.

Yes I know it's technically not impossible to fix my old stuff but I don't feel like taking them apart and I'd rather spend my spare time just playing games instead of being 'authentic' or try to fit in with those retro gaming hipsters of today.

[Anonymous No.5701735]

>>5695453
>My HDD was a few dozen MB
In the early '90s? My smallest hard drive c.1993 was a 400MB Conner. And did you really wait until CD(-R)s hit 700MB before you picked up a CD-ROM drive?

Be honest anon, are you playing make believe right now?

[Anonymous No.5701767]

>>5701735
Maybe he's from a third world shithole. My hardrive was only 200mb in 96 but over half of that were dedicated to ms dos and shitty office and art design programs leaving us with very little to work with.

[Anonymous No.5701768]

>>5697804
So you don't see the $65 SOR on that page?

All those games were priced by KB according to their perception of demand. Those aren't MSRP and don't represent Nintendo being "slow" about anything or Sega being to thank for today's game prices at all. The switch to optical media is what brought game prices down (while increasing per-unit profits for publishers at the same time). The digital push is doing the same again.

[Anonymous No.5701771]

>>5697810
Correct, but you're getting dogpiled by anons who have the ultimate excuse for their bullshit: the claim that a third party, neither you nor them, are fundamentally stupid.

[Anonymous No.5701773]

>>5699205
I waited for MMX to hit $20 at Target. Still have the shrink on my old boxes, too.

[Anonymous No.5701785]

>>5701569
They're talking about durability and may be influenced by negative recency bias. "My SNES controller is almost 30 years old and still works but my Xbone controller just broke last week."

Whatever it is, I agree with it. The more omplex the controller, the more points of failure there are, and if just one part breaks, it's considered a broken controller. We've all seen controllers with absolutely mangled analogs. Controllers without analogs aren't so easily ruined.

[Anonymous No.5701820]

>>5701735
Imagine calling someone else out for playing make believe while playing make believe. Fucking hilarious.

[Anonymous No.5701832]

>>5694284
you remind me of that kid who would insisted that length measurement will increase with thermally expanded rulers

[Anonymous No.5701934]

>>5699993
I didn't have more money back then. I still don't now.


>>5701773
You got to understand the intense hype pressure I was under at the time. I loved the original 1, got 2 on release and loved it, rented 3 and enjoyed it ... and I played an early build of X at a trade show. I had to get a non-Square, non-Nintendo game for my SNES. So apparently I did pay over $60USD of back then money for MMX.

[Anonymous No.5702415]

>>5697757
This. Every president just makes things worse because nobody has the balls or leverage to do anything that will actually stem the tide of slow decay that will eventually destroy this nation.

America's like a mildly senile retiree blowing though their savings and hoping they die before they run out of money.

[Anonymous No.5702423]

>>5702415
This is why we need communism

[Anonymous No.5702431]

>>5697765
>Sears Catalog

I acknowledge the catalog quickly became antiquated and would be useless now even if they still made it but god damn I miss that thing. This whole thread is making me nostalgic as fuck.

[Anonymous No.5702437]

>>5702423

[Anonymous No.5702641]

>>5697776
>$40 in 1980 dollars for chess

[Anonymous No.5704128]

>>5694284
Nigga went full retard

[Anonymous No.5704147]

>>5694372
goteeeeem

[Anonymous No.5705035]

>>5694372
fuckin destroyed 'em

[Anonymous No.5705151]

>>5701771
A lot of people on sites like this seem to have such a desire to call others stupid that they start just inventing them. Dipshit zoomers talking to me about how it was in the 80s and 90s lol. The internet is responsible for more bullshit being believed, not less.

[Anonymous No.5705818]

>>5694284

[Anonymous No.5705825]

>modern console on release: $400
>modern console 3 years later: $349
>modern game on release: $60
>modern game 3 years later: $60
>retro console on release: $300
>retro console 3 years later: $150 or less
>retro game on release: $60
>retro game 6 months later: in the bargain bin for $5 if not a hugely popular game, in bargain bin for $10-20 a couple of years later for popular ones
Modern gaming is a fucking ripoff.

[Anonymous No.5705837]

>>5705825
you must be baiting

[Anonymous No.5705840]

>>5705825
>modern game 3 years later: $60

wat? Most of the time, the games are already half off after the first month. Nintendo titles are evergreen though.

[Anonymous No.5705861]

>>5705837
No, I'm fucking serious. This is the way things are.
>>5705840
Bullshit. Any fucking place I go I see old as fuck games still at new prices.

[Anonymous No.5705892]

>>5705837
You must be too young to buy your own toys. Ask your mommy how much she paid for your switch and check against current prices.

[Anonymous No.5705904]

I remember Turok tuesday. 70 pounds so I couldn't even afford a memory card. Thank fuck it had loads of cheats. Street fighter 2 on the megadrive was 70 pounds too I think which was bizzare.

[Anonymous No.5707456]

>>5705904
What year?

[Anonymous No.5707986]

>>5707456

95 and 97.

[Anonymous No.5707995]

>>5705904
Super Street Fighter 2 had a special mapper to go over the 4mb limit I think. And also because it was popular

[Anonymous No.5709069]

>>5705861
Lrn2shop

Srsly. 3-6 months from release and PS4 games drop to $20-30 new/10-30 used.