/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5693387]

They strike fighting poses

[Anonymous No.5693607]

>>5693387
Pokemon is gay go back to /vp/

[Anonymous No.5694014]

>>5693607
>it's the "muh /vp/" autist
get over it dude, pokemon up to gen 2 is retro.
Pokemon threads on /vr/ are fucking civil and stays on-topic.
/vp/ is for horny teenagers wanting to fuck some monsters and having aversion to anything old, especially gen 1.

[Anonymous No.5694929]

I've beaten RBY so many times that i think i'll do fine playing Pokemon Green in japanese, is there anything other than the Cerulean Cave layout and the pokemon sprites that i should know is different before going into it?

[Anonymous No.5695401]

they strike shitting poses

[Anonymous No.5696827]

>>5695401
Very original

[Anonymous No.5697228]

Bump

[Anonymous No.5697428]

>>5693387
Whats the matter, Zoomer?

[Anonymous No.5697959]

I spent so many hours playing both Stadium games back in the day, so many memories. Why they never made any Stadium sequel for gen 3 onwards is beyond me

[Anonymous No.5698140]

>>5693387
and then they succ each other

[Anonymous No.5698563]

>>5697959
Gen 3 had Pokemon Colloseum and gen 4 had Battle Revolution. Nothing at all since then, though.

[Anonymous No.5698641]

>>5698563
Colosseum it's quite different, Battle Revolution tried to be more like Stadium but it sucked

[Anonymous No.5698654]

>>5698641
Colosseum and its sequel are the console pokemon games people wanted in the first place.

[Anonymous No.5698657]

>>5694014
>but are you simgle master?

/vp/oreons are fucking terrible but its the fastest way to fill your cringe collection.

& some of the best memes really do come from there

[Anonymous No.5698730]

>>5694929
The only other big thing is that the PC works differently. In the US version, you have 12 boxes, but they can only hold 20 Pokemon each. In Japan, it was 8 boxes that could hold 30 Pokemon.

[Anonymous No.5700924]

Is Amnesia Psyduck worth the work of beating the elite four with all 151 Pokemon?

[Anonymous No.5700935]

>>5700924
It's a rare psyduck, of course it does.
Take your time though. I still haven't done it, but from time to time I go back to Stadium and beat the elite four with mons I haven't used before. Some times they're shitmons and they're just there filling space while Mewtwo and Mew screw things up, but sometimes you get to use ones that aren't bad and maybe you rarely or ever used.

[Anonymous No.5700937]

>>5700924
Amnesia does make Golduck usable due to how absurdly overpowered it was in gen 1. Not "good", just "not a complete shitmon".

[Anonymous No.5700950]

>>5700937
>evolving amnesia psyduck
>using amnesia psyduck instead of having it as a collector piece

[Anonymous No.5700953]

>>5700937
golduck is slow but honestly an amnesia rest set or just amnesia / surf / blizzard / psychic doesn't seem awful

[Anonymous No.5702183]

>Savage attack!
>In the weak spot!

[Anonymous No.5702198]

>>5693387

This game was so good back in the day because you'd take your 2d pokemon and put them on a bigger screen where they are 3d and you can actually see them doing things.

Today it just wouldn't have the same effect. Things have come to far to be impressed by something like this.

[Anonymous No.5702307]

>>5702198
it's still cool if you have a completed file of a classic pokemon
better than anything since

[Anonymous No.5702314]

>>5693387
It's 2019 and we still don't have a mainline Pokémon game that lives up to how lively those Pokémon look. Fucking GameFreak and their 1000 Pokémon.

[Anonymous No.5702382]

>>5700924
No. It's neat, but you might as well just use slowbro if you want a water/psychic type with amnesia.

[Anonymous No.5702680]

>Dragon Rage
>Only Dragon type move in gen 1
>Only does 40 hp damage and has no additional effect
>Doesn't even get STAB

[Anonymous No.5703294]

Be honest, how many of you knew the existence of the beserk gene before Detective Pikachu?

[Anonymous No.5703303]

Be honest, how many of you actually knew the existence of the berserk gene before Detective Pikachu came out?

[Anonymous No.5703319]

>>5703303
The what?

[Anonymous No.5703354]

>>5703303
I don't know how I found out but I sure was pissed it was such an useless item. Now that I'm (much) older I realize it was meant to be nothing more than an easter egg. Still...

[Anonymous No.5703359]

There's a distinct difference in the number of remaining Pokémon!

[Anonymous No.5703471]

>>5693607
What's the matter, trainer?

[Anonymous No.5703526]

>>5697959
Literally the whole appeal of Stadium was seeing Pokemon in 3D and on the TV. By Gen 5, that was a common sight and the general amount of spin offs had died down.

Ironically, having all Pokemon playble with. O easy trainers is a gimmick that they could use to bring it back.

[Anonymous No.5703578]

>>5703303
I wrote a dumb fanfic about Blue from Pokemon Special finding it and turning into a psychic trainer to beat Red because shes now part Mewtwo when i was 12. Does that count?

[Anonymous No.5703697]

Since "candied" Pokemon are weaker than "battled" Pokemon because rare candies do not increase Stat experience like battling. And from what i understand the high level pokemon you find in the wild are not as strong as the one you have trained. So if i raise a Mewtwo from an early level will it be much stronger than the one you get at cerulean cave?

[Anonymous No.5703738]

>>5703697
What i mean by that it's if that Mewtwo i got at level 2 will be stronger when it gets to level 100 than the other you get at level 70 from cerulean cave. And yes, i used a gameshark code if you're wondering

[Anonymous No.5703759]

>>5703738
fuck off retard

[Anonymous No.5703767]

>>5703759
ur mums a retard

[Anonymous No.5704479]

>>5703759
The state of /vr/, ladies and gentlemen

[Anonymous No.5705043]

Speaking of cheat codes, am i the only that uses a gameshark code to level up the pokemon in the wild so i can get more EXP.? Yeah is cheating, but grinding up in gen 2 it's so slow and tedious

[Anonymous No.5705051]

>>5705043
No, nobody has ever used a gameshark before. You're a special unique snowflake.
Seriously fuck off, kid, nobody plays pokemon for the skill challenge and if they do they are fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.5705113]

>>5705051
ur mums a retard

[Anonymous No.5705342]

>>5703697
>>5703738
what about the pokemon box glitch? It's supposed to increase and max out your stats even after level 100.
I tried it and never worked, though.

[Anonymous No.5705936]

>>5703759
>>5705051
I sense some hostility there neighbour

[Anonymous No.5705942]

>>5705342
Why do you need to cheat at a small children's game.

[Anonymous No.5705961]

>>5703697
If you're familiar with later games, "Stat Experience" and "EVs" are the same thing, except Pokemon fans are autistic enough to give them different names because it was reworked slightly in later gens (there's no official term for it). Basically, the more wild Pokemon you knock out with a Pokemon, the stronger it becomes. The only reason a level 2 Mewtwo would be stronger than the Mewtwo caught at level 70 is because it knocked out a lot of Pokemon to get to that level. You can also just take the Cereulean Mewtwo and beat up a bunch of Pidgeys or whatever for hours to the same effect (although the stat you gain varies based on which Pokemon you kill).

The "box glitch" isn't even a glitch so much as a consequence of gen 1 Pokemon only updating their stats when they level up. So if you kill hundreds upon hundreds of Pidgey at level 100, the game just won't update the stats. You can just shove the Pokemon in the PC and take it out to get it to update.

[Anonymous No.5707254]

It sucks that some Pokemon can't learn good STAB moves on their own, like Hitmontop doesn't get good fighting moves unless you breed a Hitmonlee with a Ditto, had i known that before i wouldn't have bothered to raise Hitmontop up to level 50 but i don"t want to get rid of it since i don't want to feel like all those hours training him were a waste

[Anonymous No.5707268]

>>5703303
I did. Gen 2 had so many bizarre held items that I enjoyed collecting them. Like the TwistedSpoon you can only get from a Yellow version Kadabra.

[Anonymous No.5707282]

>>5707254
I'm not sure which is worse, that or the huge discrepancy in coverage moves. Some Pokemon like Nidoking can learn fucking anything, while Vensaur's only options are normal or grass moves.

[Anonymous No.5707341]

>>5694014
/vp/ is not against gen 1, it's against genwunners and kantopandering, it's way different.

[Anonymous No.5707350]

>>5707341
same thing, you wouldn't be able to have a thread like this here without people sperging out.

[Anonymous No.5707650]

>>5707341
>/vp/ is a person

please stop being retarded
there is a variety of opinion on the board &
please dont fall for the memes.

/vp/ talks shit on every game that comes out no matter what. LGP/E were wonderful although lacking the hardcore battling elements online/postgame

[Anonymous No.5707809]

Haven’t cared about pokemon in years but if they put out a stadium-esque game with all the freedom and qol improvements of showdown I’d get it in a heartbeat. I don’t give a shit about grinding or whatever excuse of a story there is, but the battling system is pretty fun.

Just give me full customizability from a menu so I can do teambuilding without the timewasting bullshit.

Also I like the animal like sounds for pokemon more than them saying their names, though mascot ones like pikachu and clefairy are exceptions.

Without worrying about resources needed for a story mode it’d be way easier to actually have quality animations again.

This kind of well made battle focused pokemon game is the only pokemon game that would interest me at all.

Of course this is a pipedream cause gamefreak thinks people only cared about seeing pokemon in 3D, and if they did do it they’d do a horribly halfassed job.

[Anonymous No.5707945]

>>5702183
THEY'RE DOWN! THEY'RE BOTH DOWN!

[Anonymous No.5708028]

I like that the game still has voice clips I haven't heard before, because they're either tied to obscure moves like Egg Bomb or rare circumstances like taking away 75% of the opponent's HP with an attack that's not very effective.

[Anonymous No.5708215]

>>5703697
in gen 1 and 2, every time your pokemon defeats an enemy pokemon, be it wild or a trainer, it gets points called "EVs" in each stat (equal to the opposing pokemon's base stat, iirc). these EVs accumulate and when your pokemon levels up (or are deposited in a box like the other anon mentioned), they may add up to increases in stats if you've accumulated enough. rare candies don't increase EVs. this is why a pokemon exclusively leveled with rare candy is weaker. a pokemon caught at level 50 and trained to 100 would be just as strong as one that was caught at level 2 as long as it battled enough.

[Anonymous No.5708230]

Why playing RBY via pokemon stadium with the transfer pak is so based and comfy? I just got a 2nd transfer pak so i can complete my dex trading with myself, i have all 3 games.

[Anonymous No.5708234]

>>5707809
>Haven’t cared about pokemon in years
GTFO of vp then you gigantic retarded faggot.

[Anonymous No.5708258]

>>5708234
>vp
Uh... anon?

[Anonymous No.5708270]

>>5703526
This may not apply to most players, but the biggest appeal of Stadium to me was basically that it provided a sort of post-game for Gens 1 and 2. Some of those trainers were pretty challenging by in-game standards, and it was great to have something so extensive for those Pokemon I'd leveled up. If a new Pokemon Stadium came out that actually had the same level of effort put into it, I'd honestly be willing to forgive GF for making the core games so braindead easy.

>>5707254
Agreed, the movesets are one of the things that make the first couple Gens a little hard to revisit unless you're playing a ROMhack or something. So many Pokemon just aren't fun to use because they don't get any interesting moves.

[Anonymous No.5708628]

*body slams you*
heh nothin personnel

[Anonymous No.5708694]

>>5708270
> If a new Pokemon Stadium came out that actually had the same level of effort put into it, I'd honestly be willing to forgive GF for making the core games so braindead easy.
There's no need for it anymore because the games all include the post-game Battle Tower that serves the same purpose and is quite hard

[Anonymous No.5708830]

>>5708694
what are you fucking talking about
there hasnt been a post game since bw2

[Anonymous No.5708862]

>>5700937
way too much effort, there's other water types with amnesia. It's a broken move and fun to use, but doing all that to get it.... nah. You could back-trade yourself an amnesia Clefable or Tangela. Amnesia/Tangela on gen 1 is actually pretty damn badass.

[Anonymous No.5708872]

>>5703303
Yea, I used in conjunction with moves like Thrash

[Anonymous No.5708949]

>>5708830
The battle tower, or whatever the current variation of it is, has been in every game since Crystal.

[Anonymous No.5709017]

>>5708949
oras / sunmo /ultrasunmo/ lgpe / swsh

Pokemon has been going downhill since xy

[Anonymous No.5709575]

>>5709017
Yep, it's been in all of those, although the name of it changes. Sun/Moon = Battle Tree, x/y = Battle Maison, etc

[Anonymous No.5709719]

>>5708628
*runs away in safari zone and doesn't appear again until hours later, only to run away again*
nothing personnel

[Anonymous No.5709937]

>>5709017
Are you just repeating talking points you hear other people talking about? Every Pokemon game has a post-game battle facility. When people bitch about "no post game", it's because the Battle Tower clone is considered a standard feature at this point so they don't count it.

Please actually play the games before complaining about them.

[Anonymous No.5709942]

>>5709937
Oh, except Let's Go. That one doesn't, but that's not a main series game no matter how much Gamefreak tries to insist it is.

[Anonymous No.5710301]

>>5709937
>>5709575
battle Maison is uninspired and u know it bb
no battle facility in oras as it was literally removed bc lazy devs


i have played and beat every main series game anonkuns & some of them multiple times

[Anonymous No.5710405]

>>5710301
That's nice and all, but what does it have to do with ORAS not having a battle tower?

[Anonymous No.5710414]

>>5693387
this game is dope, still got it with my 64

[Anonymous No.5710516]

So how does the move relearner work on Stadium 2? Can you use it more than once? Should i trade my Eevee from Silver to Crystal for it to learn Baton Pass?

[Anonymous No.5710518]

So how does the move relearner work on Stadium 2? Can you use it more than once? Should i trade my level 45 Eevee from Silver to Crystal for it to learn Baton Pass?

[Anonymous No.5710542]

>>5710518
You get one use every time you beat gym leader castle.

[Anonymous No.5711118]

>>5710518
>>5710542
this is fucking awesome, I never knew.
still need to find a stadium 2 cart.

[Anonymous No.5711556]

Don't forget that you have to beat the elite four and Lance all at once, you won't get the move relearner if you suspend and resume the battle later

[Anonymous No.5711696]

>>5703303
You know the red guy in the screenshot actually says his itemfinder is going off if you talk to him. There are maybe 20 squares you can search, this isn't exactly a super hidden secret.

[Anonymous No.5711704]

>>5703738
>>5703697
No, you are thinking about "EV's", or "Effort Values" which give you additional stat increases while leveling up based on pokemon you have KO'd. Each pokemon can only gain a finite number of stats this way though, so no, a level 2 Mewtwo would not be any stronger or have more stats than one raised from level 70 as long as they both max out their EVs.

[Anonymous No.5713081]

So my pokemon will gain more by battling hundreds low level pokemon than beating the elite four over and over again?

[Anonymous No.5713626]

>>5708628
Remember when Tauros used to be one of the top tier Pokemon?

[Anonymous No.5715107]

>>5713626
My favorite competitive days. I sorta want a semi patched gen1 with Blizzard reduced to 70% accuracy just to see how it goes

[Anonymous No.5715209]

>>5713081
Yes, although you're better off grinding in Cerulean Cave than grinding pidgeys, since the amount of EVs you get is determined by the base stats of the Pokemon. For example, Pidgey has 45 attack, so every Pidgey you kill gives you 45 attack EVs. Meanwhile, Golbat has 80 attack, so killing one gives you almost twice as much per kill.

[Anonymous No.5716519]

>Here's the first move!
>Oops, that missed!

[Anonymous No.5718064]

>>5703354
At least on Stadium 2 you can use it more than once and the confusion doesn't last 256 turns

[Anonymous No.5718452]

>Come back and spank each other!

[Anonymous No.5719317]

Stadium 1 > Stadium 2

[Anonymous No.5721330]

I can't be the only one that rage quitted at Erika's Vaporeon on Stadium 2, right?

[Anonymous No.5721441]

>>5707341
a single mention of gen 1 and all the sinnohfetuses start sperging out

[Anonymous No.5721976]

>>5694014
In /vp/'s defense, some mons are very fuggable.

[Anonymous No.5721996]

>>5705942
Just sounds like crap and it makes you look lame~

[Anonymous No.5722414]

>>5721976
Why is it a smugmaster?

[Anonymous No.5722974]

>>5721976
no

[Anonymous No.5723063]

>>5722974
C'mon anon, how can you look at Salazzle, for example, and not think they're fuggable?

[Anonymous No.5723919]

>>5721976
The blush was shopped, right? There's no way that's real.

[Anonymous No.5723934]

>>5707341
>/vp/ is not against gen 1, it's against genwunners and kantopandering
every gen 1 thread gets shitposted with KANTOOOO and complaints about genwunners and kantopandering anyway. the distinction is meaningless because its impossible to have a decent thread in there regardless.

[Anonymous No.5723936]

>>5721996
I appreciate your post, anon.

[Anonymous No.5725292]

Lugia or Ho-oh?

[Anonymous No.5725824]

>>5725292
I like Ho-oh more. Lugia's hand-wings bug the shit out of me. Ho-oh looks divine while Lugia looks kinda sleek at first but then really silly once you really get a good look.

[Anonymous No.5726403]

>>5703303
I actually discovered that in Stadium 2, a Primape of the Prime Cup has one.

[Anonymous No.5728851]

>Wow! KO'ed by one hit! That was just too quick!

[Anonymous No.5728989]

And down it goes