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5692787 No.5692787 [Reply] [Original]

I've met a lot of people (or seen people commenting on the internet) that were pretty surprised that there's a sprint/run option in original SMB because they never used it. I don't know if it's even possible to beat the game without running and doing run jumps, but the idea of not figuring out basic controls on a two-button controller sounds like a peak autism to me. Majority of them were normies and I'd never call them 'gamers', even casuals. What would Shigeru Miyamoto think of this? Is this a testament to an ultimate failure of what he seemed to be intuitive, friendly and easy to learn controls?

>> No.5692791

shiggers would probably (raughs) at them.
I also know people like this, and not even "casuals"; I have a friend who loves fighting games, but he can't into platformers. The idea of calculating jumps and stuff is like completely impossible to him.
I dunno.

>> No.5692806

>>5692787
How is it even possible to not know that? Did they also not know about fireballs either? If they knew about fireballs, they would have noticed the little burst of speed when they tap B. The only jump I know off the top of my head that requires you to run is the single block wide jump in 8-1. But considering they didn't know how to sprint, they probably never got there in the first place. Miyamoto wouldn't be sad, he would just think these people are literally retarded.

>> No.5692823

>>5692787
I believe it's an issue where people THINK they have played a game, but they haven't really. Lots of people have put a good 10 minutes into SMB but very few people have actually played thru and beat it- it's like if you ask someone "have you heard The Beatles?" even people who have not heard all their albums will say "of course I've heard The Beatles!"

>> No.5692824

>>5692787
You haven't "met" a lot of people. You might go to school with them and they might make fun of you but that's not the same thing. You sounds like a typical "normie" who laughs at other normies because last week they didn't know what you learned yesterday. Miyamoto would thing "cringe"

>> No.5692851

>>5692823
>Lots of people have put a good 10 minutes into SMB but very few people have actually played thru and beat it-

As I remember my peer group most of us got as far as the first warp and most would drop out as soon as the game got difficult for them (usually somewhere in world 4)

I beat the game but I used a trick where if you jump on a Koopa (we just said 'turtle' then) coming down an end-of-level stairs at just the right time you can bounce on the shell until it begins giving you extra lives for as long as you can pull it off

I'd then play the late levels with lots of lives to get me through the jumps.

None of us knew about A + Start.

>> No.5692861

>>5692851
>None of us knew about A + Start.
Me either until this year

>> No.5692867

>>5692851
I did, but I didn't know it as A+Start. I just thought if you mashed buttons on game over you had a random chance of continuing. It's how I also knew about the GB games that would reset if you pressed A+B+Start+Select at the same time. Did no one else ever mash buttons as a kid?

>> No.5692907

>>5692851
never knew about a+start. neat.
also, only learned about power-up double jumps recently. either that or i'd forgotten.

>> No.5692916

>>5692907
another thing you might not know... you don't have to land with you feet to stomp baddies-- you squish them as long as you are falling. This means you can stomp enemies with your head

>> No.5692932

>>5692787
>the idea of not figuring out basic controls on a two-button controller sounds like a peak autism
I think you mean "peak normalfriend"

>> No.5692951

>>5692932
Do you actually think it's "normal" to play Super Mario Bros and not figure out how to run? I assumed this was another joke thread.

>> No.5692975

That Mario 64 autist should do a "no B run" of SMB.

>for the thake of thith video, holding down the B button will count ath half a B preth
>thome of the jumpth are impothible without running, tho we'll need to do thomething known ath "wall jumping"

>> No.5692981

There's no fucking way.

>> No.5692992

>>5692787
I remember seeing a teens react video by finebros where they were playing megaman on the NES, and one of the girls didn't figure out you could shoot until 30 minutes in

>> No.5692995

>>5692823
That answer is correct though. What do you want them to say, they've been living in a cave and have never heard the Beatles? That's not the same question as "do you listen to the beatles".

>> No.5693001

I wonder how many people know that you can go to the main menu of any game and even exit a game on the dreamcast by pressing all the colored buttons and start

>> No.5693042

>>5692992
>I remember seeing a teens react video
Those are all faked. We're supposed to believed that Maisie Williams really wear a backwards hat and is a typical teenager? Fucking please. Watch the one that she's in and tell me that isn't fake, especially the part where she thinks they asked her to play a 5-year-old.

>> No.5693207

>>5692787
Poor bait or underage. Next time listen and lurk before outing yourself junior. This is parroted shit from some kids play video. Anyone that played back then figured it out in 10 minutes or instantly if they read the manual. Kids back then could read and it gave them something to do in the car on the drive back from the store because they weren't overstimulated from playing angry birds since they were 3 years old.

>> No.5693212

>>5693001
I was real pissed when I was trying to do a special on rondo of blood and hit run along with select. Boss was one hit from death.

>> No.5693624

>>5692787
>>I don't know if it's even possible to beat the game without running and doing run jumps

Just attempted this on an emulator using warps and save states. There are 2 jumps that you cant make "normally" make without pressing B - 8:1 there is a large gap with 3 goombas on the other side. You can make this one if you inch the screen forward, and land on a goomba as it is falling to bounce up slightly onto the platform.
8:2 there is another large gap just after the bullets near the start. you can make this one if you wait for a bullet to launch and keep it 1 tile behind you. you need to bounce on it near the end of the jump.
Unfortunately, I havent found a way to clear the very last jump on 8:4, between the hammer bro and bowser.

So no, you CANT finish the game without pressing B (and therefore running)

>> No.5693637

>>5692951
normalfriends are usually casuals, and wouldn't get into the game enough to figure it out

>> No.5693662

does anyone let go of B?

>> No.5693907

>>5693207
kys autist

>> No.5693918

>>5692787
Have a friend that gave oot a go and for the life of him couldn't figure out how to break the wooden boxes in kakariko village (to get the cuccoo hiding in one).

He looked up a walkthrough and ofc it told him to just roll into the box to break it.

>> No.5694049

I noticed girls tend to do this. Its not because they dont know how to run its because they just dont like to do it.
I guess its from a lack of aggression

>> No.5694524

>>5693662
Yes, gotta let go of B to press B again to throw fireballs

>> No.5694596

>>5692806
>expecting Normies to get to world 8

>> No.5694635

>>5692787
They are probably hipsters who only downloaded the game on their $800 iphone to play it for 5 minutes before deciding it is "too hard" and couldn't figure out the two button controls.

>> No.5694654

>>5694524
Well, that's if you are a power-up-picking scrub

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>>5694049
I was playing it with my sister the other day and she was doing shit, I told her "you know you hold B to run and then jump higher" and she said that she knew but didn't like to. Huh.......

>> No.5694963

I still don't get why the Mario games on the 3DS don't let you sprint or jump with the shoulder buttons.

>> No.5694973

>>5692787
My arborist brother in law who is into counting his macros and who dirt bikes and hunts managed to know there's a sprint option.

"Normie" ain't an excuse, there's fucking eight whole pressable buttons.
My goddamn MOM knows how to platform for fucksakes, it's just not an excuse anymore-- if they couldn't figure that out, I bet there's tons of dumb shit they have yet to truly figure out that would surprise them. Obvious shit.

It's not hard to press one of two buttons and figure out there's a run button.

>> No.5694980

>>5692851
>None of us knew about A + Start.
Yeah. I only learned about it like 5 years ago. Would have been great to have known as a kid.

>>5692916
I knew about this one for a while, thought it was pretty neat.

>> No.5695017
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5695017

How do you even play a game for 10 seconds and not try out all the buttons? Especially if there's only two.

>> No.5695027

There is no specific Button for sprinting you just need to go forward longer. People who found this out just now are N.O.R.M.I.E.S

>> No.5695306

>>5694654
>not picking up a fire flower to shoot fireballs to the rhythm of the music as you play

>> No.5695589

>>5692975
dont talk shit about pannen

>> No.5695719

>>5693624
>you CANT finish the game without pressing B
You can with frame-perfect wall jumps.

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>>5695589
>don't talk shit about pannen
oh no no no no

>> No.5696089

>>5692787
I had a friend who both didn't know Mario had a run button, and didn't know you could go down pipes. She knew you could go through horizontal pipes but was shocked that you could go down.

>> No.5696094

>>5692823
Listening takes less participation than playing a video game.

>> No.5696268

>>5692787
>I don't know if it's even possible to beat the game without running and doing run jumps
was testing and 4-3 seems like it is required by the beginning after the first mushroom platform

>> No.5696271

>>5696268
>first
meant second with the two red koopa troopas and line of coins

>> No.5696290

>>5692787
>>5696268
>>5692975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wts38dP9nWo

>> No.5696327

>>5696290
>TAS
cool shit though

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>>5696089
>She

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>>5692975
>there are still people who don't know understand what a "half A press" actually is
It's just a term used to talk about situations where, in a full 120-star run, no additional A presses are required, but in the context of the star by itself one IS required. Pressing the A button without releasing it is still an A press, but if you can accomplish something by keeping the A button held after pressing it for something, then you don't actually press it and it doesn't add to the total. If you don't press the A button outside this one instance where it needs to be held, though, then it DOES require a single A press.
"0.5x A presses" as the name of the term is completely arbitrary, and could have been called anything. I'm sure Pannenkoek regrets calling it that just because it's STILL somehow causing confusion years after he made that video.

>> No.5696770

>>5692916
I don't understand, what is this describing?

>> No.5696979

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/442924824

>> No.5696995

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/444338530

>> No.5698459

>>5696770
There isn't a hit box for enemies on Mario's feet when he jumps. Instead, as long as you're falling down, your WHOLE body is the hitbox. Basically, as long as you're falling down, and a (stompable) enemy touches you anywhere on your body, you won't get hurt and will instead damage the enemy. Try it with a bullet bill or any airborne enemy. It's not particularly useful, it's way easier to just jump on top of the enemy normally, but it's a thing.