/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5672142]

Are there any /vr/ games that have actual decent stories? And no, FF7's nonsense isn't even remotely decent.

[Anonymous No.5672148]

>>5672142
The kings field games

[Anonymous No.5672179]

>>5672142
Princess Tomato in the Salad Kingdom

[Anonymous No.5672181]

>>5672142
I have never played a video game with a decent story. And any fucker that tries to say ff6 let alone ff7 had a good story just might be autistic.

[Anonymous No.5672184]

>>5672181
I was just thinking how the evil route from soul nomad left me traumatized for days

[Anonymous No.5672189]

>>5672179
pretty much

[Anonymous No.5672201]

Loom and The Dig had really impressive world building.

[Anonymous No.5672204]

>>5672181
I have actual autism and I can't enjoy most movie stories because they don't make me feel good.

[Anonymous No.5672210]

>>5672181
>I have never played a video game with a decent story.

Neither have I, but I think OP meant "relatively speaking compared to other video games".

[Anonymous No.5672213]

>>5672142
Grim Fandango - actually the best story ever done in vidya, ever
Ecstatica was kinda fresh to me because it was set in early, dark medieval times but never showed any knights in shining armors, trolls and castles
Full Throttle is a pretty decent B-class action movie
I'd say Prisoner Of Ice and I Have No Mouth.. but both of these are book adaptations

[Anonymous No.5672216]

>>5672142
Planescape: Torment

[Anonymous No.5672221]

>>5672181
I don't think you understood, when people praise Final Fantasy they mean the character moments.

[Anonymous No.5672239]

The original Snatcher for PC 1488 had the option to show your dick to the 14 year old daughter of your dead co-worker. I don't think Hideo Kojima will ever top that.

[Anonymous No.5672287]

>>5672142
Legend of Dragoon
Parasite Eve
Xenogears
Skies of Arcadia
But for story, Alundra on the PS1 is probably the best out of all retro games next to Torment

[Anonymous No.5672312]

>>5672142
Mother 3?

[Anonymous No.5672320]

FF7's story is not great but calling it nonsense is dumb. You must be american-tier stupid to not get it.

[Anonymous No.5672326]

DUAL ORB 2

[Anonymous No.5672336]

Arcanum : of steamworks and magick obscura

[Anonymous No.5672347]

>>5672312
>2006

[Anonymous No.5672350]

>>5672320
I'm an American with two degrees who has traveled over 4 continents and knows my country and retro games very, very well. Unfortunately I cannot argue with your comment.

[Anonymous No.5672370]

>>5672142
Bad dudes is very touching

[Anonymous No.5672889]

>>5672287

>Xenogears

Why does /v/ and /vr/ praise this fucking waste so much?

[Anonymous No.5672901]

Dragon Quest V
Earthbound
Metal Slader Glory
Alien Soldier
Snatcher
Policenauts
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater

[Anonymous No.5672937]

>>5672901
I actually think the playstation 1 versions of tony hawk games flow much better than the pc,ps2 and xbox remakes.

[Anonymous No.5672946]

>>5672937
You could make that argument for 2 but the PS1 version of 3 is fucking lazy cash-grab garbage. Absolutely no draw distance, level designs are totally unsuited for the old controls, and they brought back big drop for no reason

[Anonymous No.5672947]

>>5672142
Bad Dudes. The president has been kidnapped by ninjas are you a bad enough dude to rescue him? Save him and go out for a burger.

[Anonymous No.5672961]

>>5672946
Tony Hawk 4 Ps1 is more like what you're describing but at least it was the hardest game in the series.

[Anonymous No.5672963]

Saga Frontier series have interesting stories because they are incomplete.

[Anonymous No.5673034]

>>5672181
Welp, what am I supposed to do now? You implied that I might be autistic. My life is ruined forever and all my opinions are null and void, because you said so. brb sudoku

[Anonymous No.5673036]

>>5673034
It's the other way around where autists can't appreciate subtlety of art and creativity.

[Anonymous No.5673076]

>>5672204
facts don't care about your feelings

[Anonymous No.5673190]

>>5672947
Sublime taste. Bad Dudes has a story that is utterly direct, and sincerely reflects the motivation behind playing arcade games. Maybe one day, people will come to properly appreciate the expert execution of tone that Bad Dudes provides.

In other words, fuck movie games. especially Uncharted, who the fuck wants to press buttons while they watch discount Indiana Jones act like a smartass for 6 hours

[Anonymous No.5673198]

>>5673190
Speaking of arcade what about Ketsui, everyone is gay and boning each other. Or Espgaluda where everyone is unironically a tranny. In the end of donpachi you were KILL YOUR TEAM MATES ALL ALONG

[Anonymous No.5673206]

>>5673198
Donpachi is definitely a weird one, but that's why I love it.
I'm still not entirely sure what the tone is supposed to be.

[Anonymous No.5673210]

>>5673198
Don't forget this lovely excerpt
Actually Radiant Silvergun Saturn mode had some pretty enlightened anime story about killing ultraman tiga.
Aine motivation in Gunbird 2 is to have sex with every character including males and the robot.

[Anonymous No.5673215]

Speaking of which, I remember Dungeon Explorer Sega CD having some really cool character specific endings.
But I don't wanna spoil them.

[Anonymous No.5673687]

>>5672181
So the other day I had an epiphany and out of all games it happened while I was playing Idolmaster Perfect Sun.
Hear me out, in one of the bad endings one of the girls end up raped by a fan, mindbroken and not willing to trust men anymore, right before a message appeared on screen telling me to try again and do it properly this time. It seemed weird to have such an extremely dark theme in an otherwise happy and colorful game, that's when I realized videogames were really good at alternative states and what-if scenarios with extreme consequences, something like this wouldn't be possible in another medium such as a book or movie. You could technically have branching paths in a choose your own adventure book but that would only turn out increasingly more cumbersome to read the more complex the alternate stories get.
Not only that but the game has an alternative gameplay mode that gets rid of most of the story and only lets you play the career simulation or only the rhythm mode portions of the game. You can't have that in a book that could only be enjoyed in one style and always the same way. Once you're done with a book you're done forever, videogames are always inviting you to try again and do better. In a way it's almost anti-consumerist how games are designed to give you dozens of hours of entertainment for very little money.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying videogame schlock once in a while as long as you make sure you're not only limiting the scope of your interest to only unwashed pedophile lolishit.

[Anonymous No.5674413]

>>5672142
Grandia & Grandia II

[Anonymous No.5674419]

>>5672142
Fallout 1 & 2

[Anonymous No.5674434]

>>5672142
Shenmue
FF Tactics
Adventure games like Bladerunner (for PC), The Longest Journey and Syberia (the puzzles in that one are a chore though). Also the Soulreaver series/Legacy of Kain is good. Personally I even liked the stories for the first two Ninja Gaiden games on the NES and the entire Dragon Warrior (Quest) games, especially 8. That one and Legend of Dragoon or Alundra might be your best bets. If you have a 360 you can also look into Lost Odyssey but that's not retro.

[Anonymous No.5675507]

Persona 2

[Anonymous No.5675516]

>>5675507
You get to kill ghost hitler. Sounds good.

[Anonymous No.5675523]

The Neverhood

[Anonymous No.5675531]

>>5675516
It has actually well-written characters and a serviceable plot unlike shit like P5

[Anonymous No.5675534]

>>5675531
I liked hanging out at dance clubs, cafes, arcade and malls and creating social links to random japanese people in persona more than the dating and main plot aspect.

[Anonymous No.5675568]

>>5672142
What do you consider a "good" plot? I feel like too many idiots equate depth with quality. A story can be as stupidly simple as "rescue the princess from evil" but that doesn't determine its quality. A lot of people simply look at things like "how do the characters act" and "what is the villain's motive" when trying to argue why a story is good I've found. A story is a lot more then that though. If a game makes you have any kind of emotional though, even something as simple as "I hope my favorite character doesn't die" that alone means the story was good to you.
>>5673687
>Hear me out, in one of the bad endings one of the girls end up raped by a fan, mindbroken and not willing to trust men anymore, right before a message appeared on screen telling me to try again and do it properly this time
What the fuck? I thought idolmaster was just standard waifushit, didn't know they got edgy.

On to your point though, I imagine most would agree. The greatest strength the medium has in terms of telling a narrative is that it can do so in a nonlinear manner. Obviously a book or movie can be written/viewed so that events are nonlinear, but the way it's experienced is still linear. The other strength I would say they have is the way they can force players to partake in situations, forcing their interactivity. Watching a protagonist in a film kill a character you liked is hard but it passes by, with a game you can't continue until you would kill them yourself and by your own doing.

[Anonymous No.5675652]

>>5675568
>Watching a protagonist in a film kill a character you liked is hard but it passes by, with a game you can't continue until you would kill them yourself and by your own doing.
One of the best things MGS3 ever did was make the player pull the trigger after the final boss