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5671518 No.5671518 [Reply] [Original]

Up with Sega Genesis...and DOWN with SNES!

>> No.5671560

trouble shooter is fucking amazing. and the sequel is supposed to be even better but im saving it till i beat the first one

>> No.5671993

Imagine not having grown up with both MD and SNES. What as shit childhood that must have been.
inb4 it's just zoomers LARPing as actual 30+ year old console warriors.

>> No.5672001

Which console was more invalidated by MAME?

>> No.5672002

>>5672001
>emulation
It doesn't invalidate anything.
Also, console ports, while often downgraded, have their own unique stuff (like extra modes, characters, etc).

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>>5671518

>> No.5672872
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Segabros and Nintenbros... we must unite against the greater threat... the cancer that truly killed videogames, pic related.

>> No.5672876

>>5672872
Imagine sticking to using cartridges and sealing a fate of perpetual insufficient memory space

>> No.5672878

>>5672868
That was a Rare thing, not nintendo, and the ray gun, which is a reference to Earthworm Jim (on Sega and Nintendo) is the more important aspect than the Sonic shoes, primarily because EWJ had already added an easter egg making fun of DKC.

>> No.5672880

>>5672876
In hindsight, carts were the better deal. I'll trade music quality and FMV bullshit for little to no loading times.

>> No.5672925

>>5672880
this

>> No.5672964

>>5671993
Based.
I enjoyed both as a kid.
As an adult I think Genesis was better and had a more consistently good library.

>> No.5672979

>>5671993
I owned both, but played MD way more because it had the better games.

What now niggerfaggot.

>> No.5672981

>>5672876
If I wanted to spend half of my time waiting for things to load, I would play a PC game.

>> No.5672983

>Muh console wars
Have sex consolcels.

>> No.5672989

if jarpig:
snes > genesis
else:
snes < genesis

>> No.5672992

>>5671993
Why would anyone want both?

>> No.5672996

>>5672992
To play as many games as possible

The main reasons why people bought Genesis, as I remember them:
1. Sonic
2. Mortal Kombat with blood

>> No.5672998

>>5672989
Except SNES doesn't even have the best RPGs.

>> No.5673006

>>5672998
Literally the entire world disagrees with you.

>Chrono Trigger
>Final Fantasy 3
>Super Mario RPG
>Romancing Saga 3
>Lufia II
>Earthbound
>DQ5
>BoF2
All widely considered 10/10's.

Meanwhile Genesis has... Phantasy Star, and the Lunars if you were a sucker and bought a Sega CD.

Yeah....

>> No.5673009

>>5671560
Oh yeah Trouble Shooter/Battle-Mania 2 is way way better. One of the best shooters on the system, maybe the best horizontally scrolling one

>> No.5673021

>>5673009
When moeshit is one of the best in your system you know something is wrong.

>> No.5673027

SNES has 60 essential games, Genesis has about 40

>> No.5673029

>>5673027
No such thing as essential games, dumbfuck. Games are not like food or books that you must read to have basic education.

>> No.5673031

>>5673029
What food do you have to eat to appreciate all other food

>> No.5673035

>>5673031
A zoomer doesn't need to have played Mario World and Sonic 2 to appreciate Fortnite, retardo.

>> No.5673040

>>5673035
that doesn't answer the food question

>> No.5673045

>>5673040
Shove your food up your ass along with your snes classics

>> No.5673053

>>5671518
The SNES was more powerful than the Genesis (besides speed which was a Genesis win) so looking at stats the SNES is the better one when looking at the tech stuff

>> No.5673209

Down with Sega Genesis, up with Sega Megadrive

>> No.5673237 [DELETED] 

>>5673006
>Literally the entire world disagrees with you.
Look at this NPC trying to pull his appeal to normiedom bullshit. None of those meme games are as good as PSIV or Lunar.

Meanwhile you got:
Best tactics RPGs:Shining Force series, Langrisser
Best ARPGs:Light Crusader and Landstalker
Best Platformer RPG: Popful Mail
Best Roguelike: Toejam and Earl
Best Arcade RPG: M2's Gauntlet IV (has an RPG mode)
Best space RPG: Star Cruiser (decades ahead of its time)
Best Version of Shadowrun
And last but not least Rent a Hero

>> No.5673238

>>5673006
>>Literally the entire world disagrees with you.
Look at this NPC trying to pull his appeal to normiedom bullshit. None of those meme games are as good as PSIV or Lunar.

Meanwhile you got:
>Best tactics RPGs:Shining Force series, Langrisser
>Best ARPGs:Light Crusader and Landstalker
>Best Platformer RPG: Popful Mail
>Best Roguelike: Toejam and Earl
>Best Arcade RPG: M2's Gauntlet IV (has an RPG mode)
>Best space RPG: Star Cruiser (decades ahead of its time)
>Best Version of Shadowrun
>And last but not least Rent a Hero

>> No.5673239

>>5672996
Those are all valid reasons, but we all know Genesis had so much more. Meanwhile no one played RPGs during the 16 era which doesn't leave you a whole lot beyond Nintendo/Rare shit and Megaman.

>> No.5673241

>>5673021
You might want to actually play the game.

>> No.5673245

>>5673053
>It's more powerful except it's demonstrably worse
What did he mean by this?

>> No.5673249

>>5673053
Lower resolution too. Look at all the multiplats that had the their screen cropped for the SNES port.

>> No.5673251

>>5673053
Wow just look at how uneducated you are

>> No.5673253

>>5673053
>The SNES was more powerful than the Genesis (besides speed which was a Genesis win)
The irony of SNESfriends saying that the only thing better about Genesis was faster CPU is that in reality every component in the SNES was worse than Genesis except for having a more versatile (not necessarily ‘better’) graphic and audio chip.

>> No.5673258

>>5673245
He means MUH PRETTY COLORS. Also: MUH SAMPLED MUSIC (that sounds like it's being played through a tin can with a pillow shoved over the top because we have to cram everything in to 64Kb)

>> No.5673394

>>5673253
>>5673258
The funny thing is that the SNES should be a better drum machine, and yet the Genesis always has the punchier drums. And Genesis tends to look more vibrant with high contrast colors while SNES tends to use faded pastels.

>> No.5673453

>>5673394
>genesis tends to look more vibrant

>> No.5673469

>>5673394
yeah, a lot of SNES games aren't visually pleasant. They often have bad audio too.

>> No.5673484

>>5671993
console warriors are just /v/ crossboarders trying to start arguments for their own amusement.

>> No.5673556

>>5673006
>Earthbound
>BoF2
>All widely considered 10/10's.

BoF2 is mediocre just like BoF1 and Earthbound is a meme game nowhere near a 10/10 without the Nintendo Bonus

>>5673238
>Rent a Hero
below mediocre game. surprised you didn't mention another early RPG shovelware by Sega like Sword of Vermilion

>> No.5673804

>>5673238
>Best ARPGs:Light Crusader and Landstalker
you forgot Soleil
>Best Platformer RPG: Popful Mail
monster world 4 is better
>Best Roguelike: Toejam and Earl
fatal labyrinth is better

>> No.5673813

>>5673238
>Look at this NPC trying to pull his appeal to normiedom bullshit.
Way to out yourself as an ugmo neckbeard incel.

>None of those meme games are as good as PSIV or Lunar.
Most of them actually are.

>that list
Way to move the goalpost bringing up non-traditional-JRPGs because Genesis hardly has any.

>> No.5673823

there is a good reason why /vr/ prefer the genesis. now fuck off to /v/, snesniggers.

>> No.5673826

>>5673253
>i-it's not better! it's just more versatile!
mother of cope

>> No.5673836

>>5671518
you werent even alive when these 2 consoles were at war. stupid fuck.

>> No.5673838

>>5673238
Not him, but the way in which you spew ink — like a scared cuttlefish — betrays your sense of inferiority. The SNES was an objectively superior system, with a vastly superior catalog of games and exclusives.

>>5673823
You guys try to force this so hard and so often that it is readily apparent you don't believe it yourselves.

>> No.5674156

>>5673556
>below mediocre game.
It's literally no different than memebound.

>> No.5674165

>>5673838
>increasingly nervous SNES posting continues

>> No.5674173

>>5673813
How is that a goalpost shift? We already established Genesis has quality over quantitiy with PSIV and Lunar in JRPGs. It just also happens to win in all the sub genres too.

>> No.5674207

>>5673239
People also preferred Street Fighter on Super Nintendo, because most people still had 3 button Genesis controllers

So, an idort like me played MK on Genesis and SF2 on Super Nintendo in a same day.

>> No.5674550

>>5673258
>>5673394
>>5673469
Weak bait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lYz7lx_QZk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbWxBwTLGQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isf92qAf344
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4hkGd8x-6o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0jAfZAWzsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_51w2HF2feA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DjkUWUVN0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNXgtQ2-GBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psp9lxereGk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTGoIzHUs_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEpShGb9KX0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TiEfain5LM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9RVZVtuMn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkOq9ZZFSRk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5rdbgpctsE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EVSu6bmcqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4J1BtJ4DQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7d1LfIWgAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIG5rURMvY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEEPhiMdl3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsblsx2jknY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN5ZKFQP9nI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9dOQ9Y_bQU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnFETHgzoaE

>> No.5674563

>>5674550
>This level of autism over a system with such awful sound
Incredible. Truly incredible.

>> No.5674573

>>5674563
not my fault you don't know the meaning of passion, beast

>> No.5674581

Remember that time a fucking Famicom game btfo the Genesis?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrQn-O_zFRc

>> No.5674706

>>5672880
>trading music quality
Why?

>> No.5674723

>>5674706
CD's can hold way more space for higher quality music than carts could.

>> No.5674731

>>5674706
because videogame music doesn't have to be CD quality to be good

>> No.5675398

>>5674563
Just admit snes is more than capable of bettee music than the mega drive

>> No.5675446

>>5675398
With good enough FM programming you can create incredibly high quality instruments on Sega's Yamaha synth.

You can't work around the 64 KB sound RAM limit on SNES. The only choices are muffled and a bit less muffled.

>> No.5675457

>>5673826
Well there's no other way to describe the SNES graphic chip otherwise. It has a lower standard resolution than the Sega VDP, has an inferior sprite engine (square sprites only, only two sprite sizes supported at once) and other limitations (active scan DMA is not officially supported and unsafe, VRAM and object memory can't be modified on HBlank without halting the PPU).

Contrary to popular belief, Sega's VDP officially supports translucency, windowing, and vertical scrolling. But they just aren't as flexible as the PPU.

While the PPU can do up to 4 background layers and the VDP only 2, any PPU Mode that uses more than 2 background layers results in a drop in supported features. For example, the VDP can do vertical scrolling in any mode, while the PPU can only do vertical scrolling in modes with 2 background layers.

That's why I meant about the PPU being more versatile rather than better. It can sacrifice some features for other features (lose vertical scrolling for an extra background layer, lose your color advantage over Sega for an extra two background layers, drop all background layers except for 1 but get a rotating/scaling layer, etc). But no matter what it does, it can't get a 320x224 resolution or a better sprite engine.

>> No.5675841

>>5672872
Literally saved video games

>> No.5676328

>>5675841
Nope. Sony Shitstation was trash and you're a fag for liking it.

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>mfw unironic console warriors itt

>> No.5676519

>>5676514
Who are these “”””men””””

>> No.5676521

>>5676519
they are the robots.
You just got exposed as a pleb btw. be thankful 4chan is anonymous

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>>5675841
>popularizing moviegames and jarpigs, and having 99% of your library composing of shovelware is saving videogames now
Are all Sonyggers as dumb as you?

>> No.5676527

>>5676519
more like who are these mensch
>not knowing fucking kraftwerk

>> No.5676529

>>5676526
auster, I actually don't disagree with you all that much on this one. I don't hate the playstation, but it's my least favorite of the big /vr/ systems.
That said, you should stop adopting the "jarpig" term. It's kind of embarrassing for an old man to be using /vg/ teenage lingo.

>> No.5676530

>>5676519
WE

>> No.5676531

>>5676519
Kraftwerk, my dude. Emotionless German robots and electronic music pioneers.

>> No.5676537

>>5676530
ARE

>> No.5676539

>>5676529
/vg/ only uses jarpig as an insult for JRPG fans. Saying jarpig in place of JRPG existed long before they co-opted it. You should stop letting those teenage low-tier shitposters live in your head rent-free at any rate.

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>>5671993
Genesis was my main console but got snes when it got cheap. Didn't give snes much chance back then, but now that I've explored more of its library as an adult, I can say both systems are great.

>> No.5676581

>>5676539
>Saying jarpig in place of JRPG existed long before they co-opted it
Not too sure about this, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Still, you started using it here only after the /vg/ kids started forcing it here.

>> No.5676704

>>5676581
Meh, I've always disliked JRPGs. /vg/ making it popular to shit on them here is no skin off my cock.

>> No.5676717

maybe you should stay on /vg/

>> No.5676727

>>5676704
/vg/ didn't make it popular, their attempt at a cross-board/genre war failed. At this point, you're the only one still using it around here.

>> No.5676735

>>5676727
>their attempt at a cross-board/genre war failed.
Yet here you are, still bringing them up.
What, do you enjoy jarpigs or something?

>> No.5676743

>>5676735
>bringing them up
I simply pointed out how you're laughably using a term some kids from /vg/ use.
Anyway, mentioning them and their attempt failure doesn't mean the term is popular. Again, only you're using it now.

>> No.5677418

>>5674550
>Facts are bait
What did he mean by this?

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Reminder that segafag will ever EVER have glorious BLAZE PROCESSING.

>> No.5677723

>>5673253
>snesfriend
I loved Sega's games more actually.
Sega was better speed wise, but with help from playing my snes and an artical comparing the two. Yeah it (the snes) fucking sucks. Sure it could run more sprites, but the slowdown's fucking awful.
The music doesn't have that kick to it.
Most of the shit Sega did was better than Nintendo. So yes now looking at it The SNES sucked. So everyone calling me uneducated or saying Muh Graphics. I just forgot that SNES sucked. (also yes I've actually played the systems)

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>The SNES sucked

>> No.5677818

>>5677479
based