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5666074 No.5666074 [Reply] [Original]

Will retro games still be played in five hundred years or are we all just nostalgic little fools?

>> No.5666076

>>5666074
Yes.

>> No.5666078

I don't know that, but I do know that you'll still be here making shitty bait threads.

>> No.5666079

>>5666074
If you are looking at them from the perspective of 500 years then these are contemporary games and there is nothing unusual about us enjoying them.

>> No.5666084
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>>5666074
Don’t bother reading any books written in the last 50 years people. Because people in 500 years might not read them. Just a waste of time!

>> No.5666093

>>5666074
Chess will be, yes. But video games, no. Not a single game has the lasting power as chess. It has been played for millennia and will continue to be but even the oldest literature characters like Robin Hood have a staying power and depth that a game character as famous as Mario does not. He will be forgotten along with his millions of games.

>> No.5666109

>>5666093
I think Castlevania will though due to its spookiness, depth and mechanics.

>> No.5666119

>>5666074
Those future people will state some parameters to some software that whips up something on the fly tailor made for them. There will be 1980s and 1990ish modes but they won't call it that.

>> No.5666124

>free retro gaming will become legal and more popular with the next 100 years
I don't see why not

>> No.5666132

>humanity
>around in 500 years
HA

>> No.5666175

>>5666093
Chess is a very, very different thing and has gone through a completely different process than a videogame goes through. And chess is plenty of fun but it's not that exceptional. This from someone who plays chess every other day, have over a dozen books, it's a major habit for me. I think games like Quake Live are better and would have more staying power than chess except that people aren't exposed to them as much. Keep in mind that Bobby Fischer also said in the end that chess isn't a good game, Lasker another world champion chucked it all in to play bridge, Paul Morphy also quit. Grandmaster Peter Svidler is a big fan of hearthstone despite having tried to hide it but whatever.

Also you're wrong that it has lasted "millenia", it only came into being in its current form in around the 15th century, that's why you don't have records of chess games played before that time. Millenia of course meaning a thousand years but I'm pretty sure you just tried to think of what would be a really long time and came up with that word.

Your comments on Mario show you are just cray cray and have no clue. Mario is far bigger than Robin Hood ever was and will continue as an icon for who knows how long.

>> No.5666223

>>5666175
something like warcraft or starcraft is the modern chess.

mario is a fad like mickey mouse was. there is nothing universal

>> No.5666245

>>5666074
Probably, because there won't be another generation of retro games to replace what is currently understood as being retro.

In most people's eyes, the step to 3D is what separates old/retro looking games to modern looking games, and there isn't really anywhere to go now that we have 3D games. A game from 1995 looked much different than a game from 2000, but a game from 2005 doesn't fundamentally different than a game from 2019.

I don't think virtual reality will ever replace traditional videogames, simply because people will still want to play a game on a screen in front of them.

So, there is no reason for 2D games as a format to go away completly. Now, will people play the specific games that were produced in the retro era? That is another question, but as long as there is emulation and technology support for it, I don't see why not. What might happen is that in 50 years and beyond there will be more and more lost media, it will be basically impossible to lay hand on the data from some games, and digital emulation versions will slowly vanish from the Internet.

>> No.5666273

>>5666245
>when you need to boot your quantum headset into big iron mode, then run windows 10 emulator to run an x86 win10 emulator to run dosbox to play darklands or Laura bow

>> No.5666295

>>5666245
how about something like hollow knight that is the ultimate retro

>> No.5666302

>>5666295
eventually no autist will be left to screech "not actual retro"

>> No.5666510

>>5666074
Stop basing your enjoyment on if something will be played or enjoyed in 500 years.

>> No.5666521

>>5666074
I think everything in the past 50 years or so will be considered "early video game history." So people will undoubtedly want to try games from this period to see how video games began. Which games if any will be enjoyed and remembered by the general population, I can't say. I'll bet Tetris will be a thing for a long time to come.

>> No.5666537

>>5666084
Imagine thinking video games have the cultural significance of Homer’s Odysse or a work of Shakespeare

>> No.5666552

>>5666537
oh I would say far more. Nobody took a work of Shakespeare home and read it for 12 hours a day, even to the point of ruining their lives.

>> No.5666564

>>5666537
500 years from now people could have trouble just reading the books because language could have evolved with some words definitions changing to other words not being used much anymore to certain phrases being part of the time period.

>> No.5666565

>>5666552
So what? They’re addictive. So is crack. They’ll be playing some form of game in the future, but it won’t be Donkey Kong or whatever. Shakespeare has already stood the test of time. No one gives a fuck about the first Super Mario Bros or any other retro game outside of people who have nostalgia for them. The generation of kids coming up now care about Fortnight and Minecraft

>> No.5666570

In 500 years, AAA games released today will look like teenager's weekend solo projects.

What we call retro games now will look like cave paintings - deeply primitive and barely discernable from a child's scribble, so shockingly crude as to often need a trained eye to even interpret them as anything more than that.

Only people with an understanding of what needed to be done in order to create them with the technology of the time would be able to grasp that they were created by and for people of comparable, and possibly greater intellect than their own, rather than the work simpletons.

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>>5666175
>I think games like Quake Live are better and would have more staying power than chess except that people aren't exposed to them as much
You are beyond retarded.
Chess has been played for a long time because it's a concept. There's no single physical set that is known as chess, not a single rulebook that you must own to play chess.
If you want you can play chess with rocks.
Video games are products made by corporations.
To play Quake Live you need not only need a copy of the game but also the entirety of the internet infrastracture between you and the servers at Zenimax. You also need a compatible computer with compatible software. Emulation won't save you when the owners decide to shutdown the servers.
Keep in mind that there's also a lot of different versions of modern games. You really liked the version of Quake Live from eight years ago? Too bad, you can't play it anymore. Only latest version.

>> No.5666605

>>5666597
Don't know about that, but MMO private servers have done a great job at recreating previous versions of the game. Elysium ran a great progressive classic WoW server that ran through the various patch changes. Not perfect, but they got most of it right.

Still need an ISP, the TCP/IP framework, electricity, and a computer. But the original creator running servers is not a requirement. Just anyone doing it.

>> No.5666687

>>5666537
Just because certain autistic cultists kept certain books archived, that doesn't mean they're good. I bet you would have never read those if your English class didn't shove them down your throat.

>> No.5666693

>>5666074
Will we even be around in 500? What will video games be-- even things like wooden toys have always had some small place.

Maybe we'll have a whole new format of things by then, but then it might be like old timey toys which are really just a matter of making some basic nature work for you. Video games may well persist as long as electronic entertainment does and just like music tastes do range for people to include stuff and stylings of different ages, maybe video gamers too will have that appreciation.

I wonder if they'll be around though. With physical copies going extinct, and data being compromised in new and creative ways each day, maybe they'll just sort of fade off in some sort of tragic fire incident and it'll just sort of be a weird thing people did at one time.

>> No.5666709

>>5666597
I feel bad for you. That anyone could be sitting there and be legit that dumb. I just feel bad for you.

The only point you're making in your post is that chess is easy to replicate. I clearly referred to this by stating they were completely different and had gone through different processes and it was apples and oranges. The reason I didn't specifically mention what you're saying about being able to replicate chess over time is because it was so fucking obvious, it was an implicit part of the post, there was no need to state this.

If misinterpreting people that are saying one thing to pretend to yourself that they're "retarded" is how you get your jollies then just go... somewhere else, not here. You're nothing but a shitstain.

>> No.5666716

>>5666074
Yes, even if by historical curiosity alone.

>> No.5666734

>>5666709
He does have a point though. Simple games that are just a set of rules like chess, poker, go, etc are fundamentally very different from something like quake. Anyone who knows the rules can start playing chess on a rudimentary board and that gives it a kind of staying power something like Quake will never have.

>> No.5666759

>>5666734
I can theoretically play chess in the dirt with rocks. I can't do that with Quake

>> No.5666772

>>5666074
I doubt it:

- Think about how many CPUs and OSs have been produced since the eighties. It is unlikely emulators will exist to emulate every single cpu and system for 500 years.
- Original computers/videoconsoles will stop working. It is happening now, let alone in 500 years.
- With videos and pictures there is no need to put the effort into preserving old games. Now you can see them, as time passes there are less people interested in playing the games, and there is nothing intrinsic in playing the games at is lost when you watch it. You can replace eating by looking at somebody eating, but a Videogame is after all something you watch.

- most videogames are closed source, but even in the opposite case, new programming languages are invented that only work for specific systems. Even if you had the source code of Super Mario 1, you would still need to port everything into some modern language. Now I can see it done for a minority of games for historical reasons. But it is a lot of effort for something that lacks of intellectual value and mass appeal after 500 years.

- To play many games you need joysticks, pads and keyboard. I don't think humanity will need these in 500 years.

>> No.5666797

>>5666734
He doesn't have a point for criticizing my post. Chess having a simple set of rules able to be replicated easily is something that's helped it but it's not the only thing. If I was writing an essay I would have mentioned it but I wasn't so I just said they went through different processes.

>>5666759
You can't with tennis or football either and yet they're wildly more popular than chess or any board game. Tennis balls and racquets need to have certain properties, just like if there were ever to be a videogame that was going to last throughout history. Tennis experience will also be different based on whether played today or 50 years ago. Keep in mind that speedrunners going on a particular console game do get the exact same experience.

The main reason is just the processes the games have gone through to end up where we are, the fact that improvement in graphics etc. is a continuous ongoing thing so there's no time for people to stop and have one exact game. The fact that people set up chess clubs, if people start setting up quake clubs and organizations and making standards then quake could start to become a thing that lasts throughout time.

>> No.5667295

>>5666597
get some raspberry pis and ioquake3

>> No.5667303
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the games you played in the schoolyard as a kid have more chances of being passed down the generations than software does

out kids will probably play hopscotch in VR while wearing uber fetishistic furry anime avatars

>> No.5667337

who's that virgin in op's pic

>> No.5667350

>>5667337
It's a nazi leader known as Mark Meechan, editor in chief of Infowars

>> No.5667357

>>5666074
You stupid fucks will find any reason to argue.

>> No.5667360

>>5666597
What a stupid argument. Sports are way more popular than chess and you NEED instruments to play it.

Talking as if 'hurr I can play chess with rocks only knowing the rules' is the defining factor so as to why chess is what it is, is just retarded. Stop posting anytime.

>> No.5667602

>>5666074
Doom will live on in various forms

>> No.5667638

>>5667337
that's no virgin, that's a lobster

>> No.5667645

>>5667350
this

>> No.5667649

>>5666565
No, that's retarded. There are plenty of people who from childhood grow to appreciate and play games from older systems. I grew up in the early 90s and never played systems like Atari but still enjoyed playing some games on them when I did. My little brother grew up in 16- bit era but now fucking loves old nes and sms games, and his kid currently loves playing old gameboy games. Video game systems may become outdated, but many games are timeless and still fun.

>> No.5667743

>>5667360
This is actually one of the arguments why soccer is more popular than baseball or football. All you need is a ball and you can diy a goal pretty easily.

Your not going to diy a very good bat or safety gear to have your lines crash into each other

>> No.5667754

I assume so. I play and enjoy the hell out of games that were made before I was born and have zero nostalgia for.

Also I play chess, and that's old as fuck. I guess it's had some recent patches, but I think they respected the developer's original intent.

>> No.5668097

>>5666074

The 80s and 90s will go down history as the golden age of video gaming. There will be a number of people into digital archeology. Physical games will end up in museums and private collections. Some games will go for millions of $. Much as old paintings do now. But face it, as soon as we have the holodeck for porn, the average idiot won't give a shit about ancient video games anymore. On the emulation side of things, i can totally see emulation dying off completely in a few decades.

>> No.5668132

>>5667357
this is one of the better discussion threads currently on the board, anon

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>>5666074
I'm just hoping we survive the next half century TBQFH.

>> No.5668218

>>5666074
If you're alive In 500 year you'll be 512

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>>5668218

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Doom is forever.

>> No.5670006

>>5666074
are games from the 7th century still played? like chess?. this shoudl answer your question.

>> No.5670217

>>5666074
i keep forgetting that videogames are rather new to our history. i know people who still play horse shoes and card games i figure some classics like doom will still be ported to literally every system for the next 500 years
>in 100 years there will be so many doom wads that you could physically, never be able to play all of them
even right now it would take you years and years of devoted play to play them all

>> No.5670220

>>5666074
In five hundred years people will be running through holographic 3D images being projected into their minds in the form of retro games (along with many other genres)....while they sleep on their way to Alpha Centauri.

>> No.5670224

>>5666597
you are wrong on several accounts. arena shooters, are a concept the same as chess. secondly you can host your own servers for quake live, it will have servers but no players in likely 5 years

>> No.5671269

>>5666074
sure, why the fuck not?
if it's meant to be experienced as part of entertainment media then why should dated graphics and mechanics have any impact on that?

>> No.5672037

>>5666074
In 500 years no hardware will be able to run ANYTHING that exists today. The only game that has any chance of still being around that far in the future is Tetris.

There's also the worst case scenario that video games are outlawed or some shit in the future. Or alternatively the industry could decline and the medium could cease to be popular and they could simply stop being made or played.

>> No.5672042

>>5666175
>Mario is far bigger than Robin Hood ever was

Correct.

>and will continue as an icon for who knows how long.

Not likely. Mario isn't 1/10 as popular as he was 30 years ago. Now he's "that guy from Smash" as far as most people are concerned.

>> No.5672045

>>5666552
You clearly do not understand the influence or historical significance of Shakespeare. I've had no problem with anything posted in this thread so far, but that statement is inarguably objectively false. Saying "gravity doesn't exist" would be an easier statement to defend.

>> No.5672169

>>5672045
For someone who's talking up Shakespeare you sure suck at arguing your point. Stating your view in different ways is not arguing your point.

Claiming that Shakespeare has more cultural significance than videogames is an arbitrary and silly thing to claim to begin with.

Would you claim that Shakespeare has more cultural significance than tv, movies, internet, sports, newspapers or music? The only way you could claim that is by putting in your own arbitrary, made-up definition of "cultural signifiance" fabricated as you please. If you think english professors etc. would have your back you're wrong, nobody would be dumb enough to argue what you're arguing.

>> No.5672224

>>5672169
>Claiming that Shakespeare has more cultural significance than videogames is an arbitrary and silly thing to claim to begin with.

It's neither arbitrary or silly. It is an objective fact beyond argument. You literally have no idea what you're even saying if you would even think to claim otherwise.

>> No.5672227

>>5672169
>Would you claim that Shakespeare has more cultural significance than tv, movies, internet, sports, newspapers or music?

All of those, but the internet. Yes.