/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[6-9] FUNC- New levels for Quake 1 & 2, Sonic Mayhem updated
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61740
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61739

[6-9] SUNDER released a new update
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002-sunder-update-is-here-four-new-maps-not-a-joke/

[6-9] Doom Eternal shown at E3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HOClc6Svg4

[6-9] New MetaDoom update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&start=1590#p1107375

[6-9] Mr. Friendly updated
https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly

[6-9] Digital Foundry review about Quake 2 RTX; explains a lot of shit about the source port
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9vXz9-C-AY

[6-8] Q2 RTX Models for Q2XP
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/addons/q2rtx-models-for-q2xp

[6-8] Anon updates Smooth Doom Lite
https://mega.nz/#!f5MAmQ5J!ADzufTEZ2COW5xRlblSrxZ42Qw3h-UU-Jjbe5wGN3iI

[6-7] GZDoom 4.1.3 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64964

[6-6] Fresh Supply keeps getting updated (1.9.5)
https://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791464555909/announcements/detail/1610514097382812678

[6-6] Quake 2 RTX released
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1089130/Quake_II_RTX/

[6-4] Into The Storm - DBP12 Released
http://doomer.boards.net/thread/1524/ti-doom-storm-dbp12-released

[6-4] Sigil Buckethead MIDIs
http://www.mediafire.com/file/t99msapgk9t34gd/bucketmidi.zip/file

[6-2] Sigil updated to 1.1
https://twitter.com/romero/status/1134501030887153666
https://pastebin.com/p2GMUSRE (Changelog)

[6-2] Some Consolation Prize updates
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55298&start=120#p1106075
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55298&start=120#p1105205

[6-1] Wadsmoosh updated, now supports Sigil
https://jp.itch.io/wadsmoosh/devlog/83752/wadsmoosh-11


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>Bruce Willis Doom movie never

is it possible to shotgun start quake?

>>5659627
yeah i did it

>>5659584
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/doom-remake-4-shuts-down-due-to-cease-and-desist-from-zenimax/

Doom 4 Remake shuts down due to Betheshits interference. This is very dangerous precedent to be setting for mods and everyone should be scared , honestly.

>>5659636
Get outta here with that smalltime so-hungry-for-news-we'll-post-anything site. It's all bullshit and fake news.

doom lore might be a double edge sword
>if doomslayer is not doomguy, then the lore really is barely about the doom that mattered the most since it's expanding on a different version of the series (same thing for wolfenstein)
>if he is doomguy, then the art direction and lore makes even less sense and the stuff like the new background would feel like it's being thrown away
this is the kind of series that could get away with "the story never mattered in the first place"
yet it might as well have a proper build up than shit like bethesda's take on fallout or overwatch

>Thy Flesh Consumed
Talk about a difficulty spike, Jesus. The first two levels were absolutely brutal. Im pretty sure there were ZERO health packs on the first level. Maybe I should have tried this on HMP before UV.

Is it alright if I ask for some mapping suggestions here? I don't want to come off as begging for help but I just started mapping recently and I'm kinda stuck on what to design next.

Alright, so I have made some weapons in the past. Everything was done in Decorate because almost two years ago I didn't have the nerve to get into ZScript, although I think I could do more of what I actually want to do with it. Also, I haven't done any modding since then.
Now I have some questions:

How is GZDoom going? Last version I used was 3.1.0 - yes I saw it in the news, but I would rather hear about the consensus on here
How is ZScript going? Any nice tutorials for a noob such as me out there?
Should I sign up to Doomworld or the ZDoom forums?

what are some good marathon mods aside from the ones in the OP link?

Playing Quake with Alice Cooper in the background really compels you to play faster

>>5659636
Doesn't this prove that grafshit is not Doom? They called grafshit a third-party engine, so any grafshit-based mods including Brutal Crap are not Doom anymore and should be banned from /vr/. Crispy Doom is what we need.

>>5659627
Probably, given it was the same people making levels as for Doom, and they were likely still employing the method of just warping to the map in question and thus starting fresh.

>>5659647
>about the doom that mattered the most since it's expanding on a different version of the series
I mean, classic Doom matters the most to me, but I still like Doom 4 a lot, hell, I still like Doom 3 a decent bit, and most would say it isn't canon to either classic Doom or current Doom.

Classic was what it was and lives on indefinitely through the fans and their content, and has the option to be as open ended as you feel like it would be, while new Doom clearly is building some of its own identity (which I think they should focus more on). I'm mostly fine with this development.

>>5659652
It starts hard and then gradually calms down a little.
I kinda wish it kept up that pressure for the entire episode, at least on UV, because E4M1 is one of my favorite maps, and I really like how wild and demanding it is.

>>5659652
It's a good idea to do that. It gets easier after level 2 tho.

>>5659686
Thir lawyers are just dumb.

>no traditional multiplayer for Doom Eternal, just Battle Mode
>no campaign invasions either
Just fuck my shit up. Sure I might buy the game for the campaign alone, that's where most of my time and effort went into for Doom 2016 to begin with, but this is just.. no. I don't give a shit if you don't want it to compete with Quake Champions, that didn't stop QC from happening after 2016, and Doom inherently plays very differently from QC. Would've been a perfect time to capitalize on the evolution of the previous game's gameplay for competitive matches that still had the Doom flavor, but fuck it I guess.

Just started playing Duke 3D for the first time. It’s a lot of fun but mean, I just died to the trip mine room on Death Row on come get some.

>>5659703
They most likely shitcanned the invasion mode for the sake of Google Stadia compat

>>5659703
Given how 2016's multiplayer was pretty lackluster, I can see where this comes from.
They outsourced it to keep their focus on the singleplayer, but the contracted product wasn't that great, so they decide "Fuck it, let's just do the singleplayer."

Maybe they have future plans for multiplayer which they'll do after the singleplayer is done, maybe they'll upgrade Quake Champions or something.

>>5659657
>How is GZDoom going?
Badly as always
>Last version I used was 3.1.0 - yes I saw it in the news, but I would rather hear about the consensus on here
Modders seem to like 3.4.1 the best. Personally I think 3.6 was the last good version.
>How is ZScript going?
Badly as always
>Any nice tutorials for a noob such as me out there?
Not really. Crack open a ZS mod or crack open gzdoom.pk3.
>Should I sign up to Doomworld or the ZDoom forums?
I'd rather self-immolate but you do you.

>>5659718
It throws a couple of curveballs at you. Actually a good few, but you learn to start expecting them.

>>5659723
That's probably true, sadly.
What a fucking horrible idea, I can't wait for it to go down in flames.

>>5659703
would you really give the guys who did 343 Halo a second chance?

>>5659728
Fuck no, but when id said they were bringing the multiplayer in-house I didn't imagine that to mean "we're tossing out everything in favor of two demons vs. one slayer and that's it"

>>5659724
>maybe they'll upgrade Quake Champions
That's just Steam but I doubt the numbers look any better anywhere else.

>>5659736
Damn, I didn't know it was THAT bad.
Maybe they'll cut their losses with it and figure out something else?

>>5659683
Check out his 80's albums too. Hey Stoopid, Constrictor, and Trash, they're pretty great.

>>5659657
ZScript can do some stuff which is pretty bananas, but I hear it's not well documented.

>>5659738
It's definitely doomed. No pun intended. They'll drink that well dry and move on to something else.

>>5659683
Playing retro fps with any kind of metal or hard rock works. I especially enjoy playing Doom while listening to Bolt Thrower.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GxDKWNvpog

>>5659743
It's hard to be well-documented when it's, what, a year or less old?

>>5659736
I really hope they go back and fix or even entirely rework QC. It was such a sad mess when I tried it, and any other, smaller afps is DoA. It almost makes me feel bad for the /vg/ general.

>>5659748
I need an aloha shirt.

>>5659751
I like how that album cover looks like 80's/early 90's era Warhammer art.
But yeah, there's a lot that matches, I've gathered down as many as I can of the various songs which Doom's music was based on, and usually along with some other songs from those albums or bands.

>>5659759
Quakecon in two weeks. My guess is they'll push a new easy to program but lackluster game mode and then shill some BATTLE PASS garbage along with NEW AND EXCITING CUSTOMIZATION OPTIONS.

>>5659761
Just rip it from The New Order, like they did. Cheap and easy! OH SHIT

>>5659774
>BJ wakes up
>TNC and Youngblood was just a bad dream

>>5659583
>IWADs and more (>3 GB)
>5.7gb

Maybe it's time to update the OP.

>>5659764
I can't believe they did the battle pass shit like so many other multi-only games.
I checked /arena/, and they seem rightfully angry at doom fans and normalfags taking center stage instead of, well, Quakecon.

>>5659835
Fuck em
/vg/ posters are not people

>>5659725
Show me where Graf hurt you, anon.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/doom-eternal/deathmatch

oof

In doom are there areas where you are supposed to not be able to see shit because it is so dark? I know darkness is intended but there are sometimes areas where I literally can't see and I'm thinking my brightness is too low.

I liked the singe player aspect of Quake, its a shame we'll never see another entry with a focus on that kind of content.

>>5659864
Are you playing on GZDoom?
If so, that's happening because Graf has whack defaults. Change the Sector Lighting mode to Vanilla instead of Dark. That way light will emanate in close proximity of Doomguy so you can see.

>>5659885
I am in gzdoom and I just switched it to vanilla. Holy fuck what a difference, thanks.

>>5659874
Never say never. With the sucess of the new Doom games, we're bound to eventually get a new Quake in the style of the first game. It's just matter of waiting.

>>5659874
There's plenty of Quake maps that keep with the theme.

Man, it's so fucking devastating when you spend 20-30 mins in a map with Hideous Destructor only to die at the very end

I don't know how Eric manages to stay cool and unrustled even after being robbed cruelly of a win, only to start at square one again

>Theres a timeline where Adrian Shepard became Doomguy

Man I wanna be hyped for Doom Eternal but its hard to be excited for what is probably just a 10 hour campaign and no map tools.

>>5659782
>but he wakes up in Samsara

>>5659989
That's almost certainly what it's going to be. It's better to just play it and enjoy it for what it is when it comes out, instead of getting 'hyped' for it. Good ol' Doom will be waiting for you when your weekend romp is done.

>>5659983
>shepard is pretty much a fan favorite in the HL series
>any attempts at a sequel to his game either completely shits the bed or falls apart to internet drama
what did valve and/or gearbox mean by this?

>>5659989
i feel like map/mod tools won't be a thing at launch but they'll inevitably be added.

nobody seemed to like snapmap from doom 4 (they even cut it from the switch port) and i'm almost certain everyone working on the game is probably well aware that people would rather have actual mod tools. i can't imagine that it won't happen.

It's a start I guess. Couldn't get a good angle of the room due to its size. What would be something I could do to the corners to make them less bland?

>>5660024
Torches or corpse spikes

>>5659901
A new Quake would be pointless. Especially since 99% of people remember Quake as a multiplayer game.

>>5660047
This is seeming like the sad reality. They already added quad damage, haste, and verticality with nudoom, doing a quake campaign would just seem like a reskin.

>Play the hell levels of Doom or Sigil
>Turn of the music and play this instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48&t=250s

>>5660017
>i cant imagine that it wont happen
I would be seriously surprised if they release map tools, considering how awful snapmap was. I did some neat things with it, but the amount of effort I had to put in was insane, and I didn't even try to make custom areas. It fucking baffles me how they didnt have something as simple as the ability to create GROUND without using some sort of workaround. Just to make climbable columns, I had to take the generic column prop, disable its collision, make a custom rectangle prop roughly the size of the column, make it invisible, and splice it into the space where the column was. Working around the 13 demon limit was a massive pain requiring me to despawn enemies in certain areas according to triggers, and creating an encounter with enemies that actually spawn reasonably required a complex series of counters and spawn points pictured here.

https://github.com/NVIDIA/Q2RTX/issues/4#issuecomment-501947708
thanks fucking god, what where they thinking?

>>5659606
Dude just play Operation: Body Count™
Made by the pinnacle of entertainment software, Capstone.

>>5660125
>Capstone
?The Pinnacle of Fuck it

What happened to the /vr/ Doom server? Must be ages ago that I had a lotta fun playing Cyber Run, minigames, and good ol' deathmatch with you fucks.

>>5660001
YOU FUCKED UP MY FACE

>>5660146
You fucked my wife
*BANG*
You fucked my ass
*BANG*
But worst of all
You fucked up my hair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5JH3jCMX0M
Fuck you I thought it was funny

As long as they split up the modes I'll be happy. I'd rather not have to download 75GB+ of content again.

>>5660227

meant for

>>5659703

>>5660227
>expecting AAA games made in 2019 to have reasonable file sizes

my sides

why is registration on the booru closed?
theres a ton of pictures I wanna upload

>>5659606
>Operation: Body Count
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7n4H3ZDcvA

>>5660125
>>5660254
I meant a Doom movie starring young Bruce Willis, he could've done it

>>5659892
>>5659885
Vanilla makes farther sectors darker as well.
If you want them to be brighter, as wellas have a bright spot around you like in vanilla, choose "Doom" lightmode. "Software" lightmode is an old way of emulating software and is a middleground between "Doom" that has slightly lower contrast between areas and "Vanilla" that is much darker at a distance than actual vanilla for some reason.

To win the game, you must kill me.

>>5660359

Is there a smooth monsters only mod for gzdoom?

>>5660059
Quake didn't have a patent on verticality you fucking knob.
Not that I want Quake to meld with Doom, mind.

>>5659653
What kinda questions do you have?

>>5659725
>Personally I think 3.6 was the last good version.
What changed in later versions that made it bad?

>>5659960
I think he just has more patience than most.
>"Hideous Destructor isn't going to play fair with you, so that means you don't have to play fair either. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you can win."
I remember him saying something like that.

>>5660024
Pillars, lamps, maybe some mainframes or something, maybe an open slot along one wall where you can see a bunch of piping or circuitry.
Perhaps put a carpet in the center of the room, to tie it all together.

>>5660047
Doesn't matter what people remember it as.

>>5660125
No.

>>5659653
Didn't someone released an example map that acts as a tutorial on mapping, including the demonstrable difference between things you should and should not do and why?

I can't recall the name of it though.

>pain elemental starts fighting with its own lost soul

this was kinda bs desu

im p sure plutonia is harder than sigil

>>5660146
>>5660154
WARES GAHDEN! WHARE IZ DA FREE MAN!

Just finished Scythe 1. It was fun but the last episode was kind of shitty, considering that I don't like fighting swarms of demons and the game giving me a ton of invincible orbs. I'd rather play it more carefully and advance at my own pace than to run from left to right to get the key as fast as I can and then finish the level.

>>5660654
NOOO

>>5660663
Also wanted to ask if it's worth going trough Scythe 2. Is it the same or it has some changes? (In monster swarms and such)

>>5659647
I'm more concerned with how classic doomguy fits in with the Doom 4 story? Assuming he and the slayer are the same person, did he become the slayer after the events of Doom 1 and 2? Or was he the slayer first and arrived on mars to help out just like he did in Doom 4?
And how does the Icon of Sin fit into the new story? As I've seen people suggest it does.

>>5660667
git gud

>>5660667
>158 health
>164 armor
You'll be fine, quit bitching

>>5660705
on map 8 now, geez

the heavy MG in final doomer is awesome though

>>5660591
>playing that when I was 12
I remember handling the shooting part well.
The invisible bridge however held me back for a few hours.
At first I didn't know what to do and tried to hump all walls across the rest of the level.
Then when I figured that there's invisible bridge out there I kept falling from it.

>>5660706
>the heavy MG in final doomer is awesome
Overpowered, you mean

>>5660726
meh its already hard enough

>>5660591
Why do people always bitch about this but the insta death torch puzzle from TNT always gets a pass?

>>5660734
Honestly in my opinion neither of the Final Dooms were very good. They all had dumb shit like this.

>>5660734
There's a trick for the torch puzzle, at least in source ports. Make a save file in front of the torches in the first hall, then at the puzzle room open up the load menu and look at the thumbnail for a reference. It's still not a particularly fun segment, but that does help a bit.

>>5660734
That one clues you in.
I think the invisible bridge in Congo isn't obvious.

>>5660740
Well, your opinion is wrong.

>>5660747
oh

>>5660747
>That one clues you in
Yes, the clue is there, but you've just spent the last 29 levels doing typical doom stuff and all of a sudden they drop an environmental puzzle on you.

hmm

Are Nihility or NEIS better or worse than Sigil?

>>5660804
o shit this is such a interesting map actually

>>5660804
I don't much care for Final Doom but this was a really cool map idea. Loved this shit.

After never playing Quake before I'm finally ready to do it lads. What the best way to play these days (legal or otherwise)?

>>5660838
You have the imgur link in the OP. Quakespasm usually.

>>5660796
True. TNT is mostly good, but it does some weird shit by the last parts.
Baron's Den has the key you need hidden away.

>>5660838
Go to the second mega link in the OP.
The one that ends with icUA.

Download the Quake folder. Read the README. Enjoy.

>>5660807
Haven't played NEIS, but Nihility is considerably different from the base game, and I don't think it's directly comparable to a normal episode.

why doesn't an archvile just revive the spider mastermind LMAO

oh no

>>5660864
DUDE

>>5660876
start spamming rockets

>>5660864
why doesn't an archvile just revive the Icon of Sin

why doesn't Satan just snap his fingers and kill the doomguy

>>5660884
theres no satan in doom

>>5660886
Isn't that what the Icon is?

>>5660886
why doesn't YHVH in his omnipotence just snap the demon invasion out of reality
why did he allow it in the first place
Either YHVH exists in the Doom-verse and he's indifferent/malevolent, or he doesn't exist in the Doom-verse

When I see clips of people playing doom on either some older source port or DOS, the music is so much more loud, every single preset on gzdoom on my PC sounds muffled, even fluidsynth/microsoft which sound the best, on max volume, what's the deal? I need to download some soundfront thingy and use it with fluidsynth?

>>5660904
Who do you think Doomguy is?

>>5660913
You're implying Doomguy is YHVH?
The same questions apply, why would he not just snap the invasion out of existence in his omnipotence, or why would he allow it in the first place

And there's also the problem of YHVH being killable by a lowly zombieman or imp fireball

How come shooters and games nowadays don't have raunchy/overthetop characterisation like Duke, Lo Wang, Caleb etc? Definitely a product of the time

>>5660930
The only one of those that aged well was Caleb. Duke and Lo Wang are pretty lame and tryhard, imo.

Played trough Scythe 2. I'm at the 4th? Episode, I think. It's the jungle stuff. It's much better than the 1st Scythe.

>>5660876
There’s nothing worse than Pain Elementals exploding into more Lost Souls.

>>5660930
Everyone is too oversensitive and will throw a twitter shitfit over it.

>>5660937
This. I absolutely hate that shit, even more than I hate arch-viles.

>>5660934
They’re all try hard, but it’s endearing.

>>5660904
Doom Eternal seems to be setting up the angels as also evil, like some Bayonetta shit

>>5660940
That’s understandable. Archviles don’t fly at you in hordes.

>>5660946
They’re not really elaborating on why though. And those Angels look awfully similar to some of the Demons.

>>5660930
>How come shooters and games nowadays don't have raunchy/overthetop characterisation like Duke, Lo Wang, Caleb etc?
because now you have to infilitrate a house in night vision to a shoot a terrorist's baby and have your squadmates scream RAMIREZ WHAT DID YOU DO

>>5660946
>>5660954
i hope so
more enemy flavours is always good

>>5659583
Got punched by a revenant today, nigga left me in 68 health from the 100 I had, they hit like trucks.

>>5660946
I didn't play Bayonetta all the way through, but I thought that you're playing as the actual antagonists killing good angles? (the witches) Or do the angels do some shady shit too?

>>5660946
There's angels now?

>>5660963
>>5660620

>>5660940
Archviles aren't so bad as long as you have cover.
Now cacodemons those fuckers can suck my dick

>>5660960
Depends on the rng

>>5660940
>>5660965
Why do you hate cacos? They're like the most fair demon, basically flying imps

most bs is revenants, tracking rng bullshit, hate it so much

how incorrect is this info?
http://pabloperugino.com/fps/en/2019/06/14/bethesda-shuts-down-doom-remake-4-mod/

>>5660960
Play punch out with these nerds and beat them 2 the punch

Take a seat boneheads

>>5660974
Because they fly sometimes in places difficult to see/aim, they are usually hidden in large numbers, they take a lot of shotgun bullets to kill the super shotgun was a god send. At least imps die quickly

>>5660989
all the info originates from a single source: vasyan777

i will call it all a hoax until zeni/beth gives some kind of public statement

>>5660993
I mean, all the other sources said that bethesda dropped the hammer over the mod because mods are bad, this is stating something different, that the modder was breaking several rules

>>5660934
You're lame and tryhard.

>>5660962
Basically everything that isn't humans is evil in Bayonetta

>>5660974
Plus because of their fliying they chase you around and nothing stops them because they can just float over obstacles.
Take thy flesh consumed map 2 those cacos at the start just keep coming and nothing stops them until they are right in your face

>>5659782
I honestly thought that was how TNO ass going to end.

Hideous Destructor question -

Should I be going out of my way to avoid destroying nukage barrels? I'm not entirely positive on if they release *more* frag energy shards to revive monsters if they're in the barrel, or if they're exploded. Do you move them away from corpses, if so? Or do you punch corpses away from them? What's their radius for reviving?

Can we all agree that Thy Flesh Consumed has 2 good maps (M2, M6), and the rest are jack shit?

>>5660960
Why none of the characters (Doomguy or his enemies) use their legs for attacks? A healthy kick can kill you instantly, they are much more deadly than punches.

>>5659759
>>5659738
>>5659724
the sad part is that there just really isn't a market for arena shooters in a multiplayer capacity nowadays and most of the people who want them practically just stick exclusively to Q3 & UT anyway.

>>5661051
E4M1, and E4M2 are the only worthwhile maps in E4, I think.

>>5659997
>tfw all I ever want from a Doom sequel is a weekend romp before I go back to playing megawads
>tfw other people understand this and sympathize with me

God, I fucking love the Doom community. You guys are alright!

>>5660989
>repacked compilation of other people’s work without credit

The 980 MB build I just got from the comments section on https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-remake-4 page has credits.txt file. Here's a screenshot of it. But considering the fact that the date the file was created is 13 June and the mod was deleted from Moddb on 12 June it appears the archive originally didn't contain any credits and the person who reuploaded it added it later and probably copied from this page which was deleted along with the mod, but is still in Google cache: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RGv1gZj11H0J:https://www.moddb.com/mods/lowpoly-doom-lite-10/tutorials/doom-remake-4-credits+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

>>5661051
No, I love the secret map.
>>5659724
I feel like one of maybe 300 jackasses who actually really loved the Doom 2016 multiplayer, it was like a really simplified, casual, unreal tournament ripoff.

It had so many good maps and powerups, and the weapons are so chunky. The combos are easy to pull off and feel so satisfying.

Plus, they had Heaven environments in some of the Doom multiplayer maps before Doom Eternal was even revealed. They had planned it all from the beginning.

>>5661073
maybe it was me, I'm sharing it through fb with a mega link
I downloaded the 4 files from the google cache with the page description for each file
I'm pablo perugino btw >>5660989

>>5660930
>>5660956
just because they're not thrown into every shooter doesn't mean they don't exist anymore.

>>5660934
I'd say duke & caleb aged pretty well. sure duke might not be the most "politically correct" action hero but he's honestly not that much different than your typical 80s or 90s action movie protagonist.

>>5661094
It baffles my mind that the most psychopathic, sadistic murderer cultist in all of the build engine games is the one that is the least offensive in modern culture.

>>5661091
I've edited the post

>>5661076
i would say that it was a better attempt at what 343 was trying to do with halo 4 rather than a simplified UT and if it wasn't doom's multiplayer i don't think that many people would have hated.

my main gripe about it was that they had a ton of assets that were just straight up wasted on this mode. i can only hope that we at least see the doom 4 maps return in QC should id decide to try and unfuck that game.

>>5659724
>Given how 2016's multiplayer was pretty lackluster, I can see where this comes from.
That's just throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They already have Doomguy's abilities working in network play, there is no reason why they can't have just a basic tacked-on deathmatch mode.

>>5661108
You need a friendly url

>>5661106
The utter state of the XXI-th Century.

>>5660989
Vasyan is shitlord who fabricates screenshots and news to get attention. It's all bullshit and you bought it wholesale.

is there a fix for the skyboxes in buildgdx?

>>5660946
Not so sure about that. You explicitly see a Cyberdemon step through a portal from what appears to be Heaven. I'd guess that the plot is either that demons have taken over Heaven and you have to kick them out, OR there's some kind of evil angels that rebelled and teamed up with demons and they're the bad guys.

>>5661195
Angels are probably doing this for the "greater good". They're not evil, they're just cleaning up the mess humanity has made.
Either that, or punishing humanity for being so accepting of Hell.

>>5661159
I'm broke

Fuck both heaven and hell, give Doomguy an SSG and he'll sort them all out.

Once both god and satan are dead, then the elder gods from the Quake world open a portal and stake their claim, so we get a Ranger/Doomguy teamup

>>5661159
It's already gone mainstream, which is probably going to make people even more mad.

https://www.pcgamer.com/bethesdas-legal-department-drops-the-hammer-on-doom-remake-4-mod/
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-06-14-zenimax-shuts-down-fan-remake-of-doom

>>5661215
this is the dream

>>5661215
Has to happen. It's in the damn name. DOOM. Everything and everyone, doomed.
Please let it happen

>>5660946
I hope they're renegade angels or something.

>>5661231
God damn it. Why even source anything anymore, right? How about we all start printing our own truths? Time to shape the world.

>>5660960
Those boneheads are pretty damn big, and they really put their body in the punch, a haymaker, so I figure they can slug you pretty hard.

>>5661232
They’ve both lost the things they loved the most.

>>5661261
The enemy guide says they’re demons that died, and got rebuilt by the forces of Hell.

is duke 20th worth playing?

what the FUCK were they thinking?

>>5661282
No. Don’t support Randy.

>>5661289
What

>>5661289
It looks pretty cool.

>>5661256
I didn't attack bethesda/zenimax in my post, I was trying to clarify why it might have been shut down
at best I'm advertising the mod (which doesn't even exist anymore)
what about now?
http://pabloperugino.com/fps/en/2019/06/14/zenimax-shuts-down-doom-remake-4-mod/

>playing DOOM
>punch fist in empty room
>all monsters are suddenly alerted to my presence
loundest fists in the worst

>>5661310
I'm telling you, IT'S FAKE NEWS. Fuck Bethesda anyway but they don't have a damn thing to do with this. It's all made up. Vasydung removed the mod from moddb himself. Shit, man.

>>5661315
try to read the post at least
>Although it could not be officially confirmed
>It’s thought to be a publicity stunt driven by the modder

>>5661315
>"9/11 was an inside job"

>>5661315
Dude, that post is not speaking well about Vasyan

>>5661321
Well it's too late anyway. The best you can do now is to get a statement from Bethesda and clear all of this shit up. Either they did this is they didn't. There shouldn't have been any coverage on this unsourced nonsense to begin with. That's the problem.

>>5661313
Doomguy runs inhumanly fast, so we can assume his punches generate shockwaves.

>>5661335
I'll send them an email
what are the chances of being answered?

>>5661340
How should I know? Shit's on PC Gamer. Use that as leverage.

>>5661231
lol

>>5661342
And there he is.

>>5661045
The ones that aren't animated will release one frag shard when destroyed. They're harmless to leave alone, other than the hazard of it being an explosive barrel or possibly animated. Personally I don't mind dealing with a little frag in the air as much as I mind balefire in my back, but that's your call.

>Doom Slayer representing humanity giving Heaven and Hell the middle finger in Doom Eternal
We Shin Megami Tensei now?

>>5661352
I sure hope so, but I don't think they have the balls to go that way.

>>5661346
Gotcha. Also, is blue armor worth it now with the recent changes to it? Or is green still the way to go always

>>5661352
The one time he speaks is when he's face to face with god.
>YOU DID THIS
Both barrels.

>>5661310
What I find worrying is the community reaction to it, most of the ones taking it all on face value, seem to be thankful towards Zenimax for doing it.

Corporate involvement in policing modding is a really, really bad thing, and not something we should encourage, even if it's shoved out that plagiarist pile of shit that moddb should have cleared out ages ago.

>>5661362
Yeah, blue armor works again after being worthless for around half a year. It's still got its downsides, but it actually provides the intended near-immunity to small arms again. Its weight got massively increased to compensate, but that doesn't really matter when you're wearing it, it just means you can't carry spares practically.

>>5661363
That’s pretty edgy.

>>5661362
>heavy
>good front armor
Use it when peeking around corners and cleaning out a room of hitscanners without explosives. Something like that. Not for running and gunning. Situational.

>>5661389
I love me some 90's edge, man. Don't you?

>>5661389
Also known as metal.

Is that the Quake logo on the Icon of Sin’s forehead?

>>5661387
>>5661391
Awesome, thanks guys
Any other major changes recently that I should be aware of?

>>5661393
>>5661395
Yeah, I like it too.

>>5661051
No.

>>5661406
Payback time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDqwijVa_XI

>>5661387
>>5661391
good to know. Another question -

Is the crouch slide a meme? I've somehow managed to kill myself twice with it. I don't know if it was caused by me hitting a wall too fast or what. Or if I tripped and snapped my neck. No clue. Wasn't even bleeding or anything.

Are there any cosmetic mods for doom that work on ZDoom? I don't want higher textures and particles, just new weapon sprites.

Pls recommend if something comes to mind, thx.

>>5661282
The AWO episode has some decent maps, and a few which are actually really good, but I suggest you just pirate it, because go fuck yourself Randy.

>>5660245
something to do with spammers invading random boorus and uploading pictures of someone's dick/ass pics with random dating usernames attached

>>5661425
Crouch slide is powerful, but you have to be careful with it. If you've just recently been hit or are at particularly low health you can indeed throw yourself into a wall and finish yourself off. It's available when all your other fast movement options aren't, so it's best used to make escapes from bad situations while jumping and sprinting will serve you better on the offensive.

>>5661363
>Both barrels
>God gets gibbed
>Stylized freeze frame
>DOOM on screen, credits roll
>You can fly around and observe the scene during
>Pic related

>>5661439
I see
Also
>Jumping on the offensive
please elaborate

>>5661448
For active dodging while you're fighting stuff, as opposed to making a retreat to safety. For instance, Hell Knights are bastards that lead their shots and the projectiles are fast enough you can't dodge with normal movement usually, but a sidehop once the ball is out should work even in fairly close quarters.

>>5661427
I'm sorry to give you a (You) when I don't have anything in mind, but can I ask why you're sticking with Zdoom? I am legitimately curious and not seeking to change your mind in asking.

>>5661448
Mess around with berserk + lunge if you wanna see how useful that can be. Good for cleaning up a room or two full of mooks. Gets your adrenaline pumping.
Thanks Eric

>>5660904
Because these monsters were sent by that god. That's why. Also, the bible was never once connected to doom when it first came out. People weren't talking about how doom related to the bible, people were talking about it's controversial violence.

It wasn't until recently that this became a trend and those four letters weren't displayed openly on the internet until a few years ago, around the time that people started to wake up to the jewish manence.

yhvh doesn't exist period.

>>5660620
>>5660618
>Doomguy goes to Heaven to kill God.
So its basically this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FglVuYr0BJg

This asshole can go FUCK himself. I hate him.

>>5661473
Ignore him... unless you're going for 100%

>>5661473
You're as well-equipped to deal with him as anyone. I believe in you.

>>5661475
Considering the door only opened after I killed him, doesn't look like that was an option.

>>5661482
Found a secret invuln. We good.

>>5661485
Looks like I had some other map in mind then. My bad.

>>5661468
Anon, go back to /pol/. I'm an atheist, not a nazi sympathizer talking about muh jewish menaces.

>>5661473
I got more annoyed by the cacodemons, I killed the cyberdemon with no trouble.
I didn't enjoy that map

>>5661460
Honestly, I have no idea why I stick with it. That's the engine I downloaded first and I stuck with it.

>>5661371
>Corporate involvement in policing modding is a really, really bad thing, and not something we should encourage, even if it's shoved out that plagiarist pile of shit that moddb should have cleared out ages ago.
this
corporations are never on your side, even if they do a thing you like or does something shitty to someone you don't like

>>5661503
More than fair.

>>5661473
>>5661485
What is this wad?

>>5661510
Its episode 4 of Doom

>>5661396

>>5661515
Imagine if Id bought Hexen and Heretic from Activision.

>>5661519
They'd probably be Bethesda mobile games by now.

http://www.ladbible.com/technology/gaming-wolfenstein-2-dev-says-a-new-quake-is-on-their-bucket-list-20190513

you know dopa was neat and all
BUT YOU FUCKS DOUBLE FUCKED TNC
SO FUCK YOU I DON'T THRUST YOU
GET YOUR FUCKING HANDS OF QUAKE AAAAAAAAA

>>5660692
If you liked the first 20 maps of Scythe 1, check out demonfear. It starts out 1994tier but gets way better after the first few levels.

>>5661371
>>5661506
you said this last thread and the answer is the exact same

you would probably have a better case if this was blade of agony and not something that was stealing content and redistributing it as a standalone infringing product
a thief being held accountable for his actions is not the same

>>5659583
Quake manual is kinda funny

>>5661548
but if he actually got screwed by beth/zenimax (in case he isn't faking it) it's because of some weird copyright thing
not because of the mod in general being an asset stealing pile of shit
he got rightfully shat on but for the wrong reason and context

>>5660667
Whenever there were chaingunners in Plutonia I just ran to cover, peeked and sniped them one at a time. I only focused on the Spiderdemon after they were all dead.

>>5661548
>blade of agony
Not a relevant mod, something like DRLA would be very relevant to this, or Smooth Doom, or anything else that has id assets or derivatives of id's assets.

It's bad for the community regardless of if it happens to a plagiarizing asshat or if it happens to anybody else.
>>5661565
If it's legit, it's an axe above the heads of a lot of developers who use altered vanilla assets.

>>5661542
I'm playing scythe 2 now. I want to finish it so badly, the levels are fucking insane and unfair.

I know Bratwurst and a Mother Demon addon change the IOS boss fight with new bosses.
I wonder if there's a mod or even a mapset that do that with an enemy meant to be the Icon of Sin himself standing on two legs and fighting, while also still spawning enemies (and if it's compatible with mods, it could work with modded enemies)
I wonder if Eternal will bring him back

Thats cool as shit

Ninja Pirates and Babuins from Hideous Destructor are probably the most terrifying take on the pinkies I've ever seen.

What gets me is how they bite and hold on to you like a rabid dog, making it difficult to line up a shot with even a sidearm, or punching them off you. And the urgency that they're biting your face off while you're scrambling to get them off you.

In the megawad Moonblood good?

>>5661581
Blade of agony uses Wolfenstein sprites.

>>5661641
Yeah

>>5661496
I been playing this game since its inception. And I am on here near daily since this site's inception. You can't fool me.

>>5661656
How am I trying to fool you?

>>5661540
Can't wait for Ranger to be replaced by a butch dyke with pink hair

>>5659583
That's from Twilight Zone, right? Is it just an older Black Mirror?

>>5661540
TNO and TOB were good because they were done by a different team, and that same team left Machine Games during the development of TNC.

>>5661698
Where did they go, I wonder?

>>5660891
The icon of sin is a jew.

>>5661698
Come to think of it, BJ never mentioned his dad being abusive when he first mentioned him in his thoughts during one of the swimming segments of TNO. He only talked about the time he accidentally dropped his dad’s watch down the well, and that his dad told him to go in there and get it back.

>>5661712
So, The Betrayer is a Jew too?

>>5661698
It also got micromanaged by Zenimax, and the new team seem to have fancied themselves as movie developers instead of game developers.

>>5661519
i can see it being outsourced to arkane like how wolfenstein & rage were outsourced to other studios.

>>5661537
tom i get that you're butthurt about commander keen but let it go. it's not healthy to dwell on shit like this.

>>5661707
Who knows? They’re probably working elsewhere.

>>5661718
Ignore the stormfront fag

"Year One Pass - Access to two campaign add-ons to release within the first year of DOOM Eternal’s launch date. Featuring new perspectives and new ways to play, these standalone stories explore the cataclysmic events that led to earth’s fall against the demons."

>new perspectives
does this mean what I think it means

>>5661723
Bethesda already has a first person mobile engine and they're looking to expand into mobile more and more with older properties.

>>5661734
If you expect anything good out of the modern games industry, you're a fucking mark PERIOD.

>>5661731
Leaked DLC trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyyJSYKvmK8

>>5661468
>>5661656
>>5661689
Mental disease.

>>5661731
Maybe they might do something like Doom 3’s DLC, or TNC Freedom Chronicles, with the player being someone else other than the main character of the main campaign. Maybe Crash and Phobos from Quake 3 Arena?

>>5661565
Nothing points to this being real, guy has a history of bullshit and faking screenshots is not difficult.
All we can do is wait and see. Reactionary journalism isn't doing anyone any favors.

https://www.gameinformer.com/preview/2019/06/13/id-talks-mod-support-integrating-more-traversal-and-the-controversial-neon-ui

here it is

>>5661748
>"Doom is not trying to be an immersive game; it's not trying to be a cinematic game," Martin says. "It's a video game with the capital V that's dripping with demon blood. Because it's really fast, we're putting a lot of pressure on the player. It's speed chess. You've got to make decisions really fast. If I'm driving around a race car 200 miles an hour, I need all the signage and the game to be big and bold. Otherwise, I'm going to get killed. We want death to be a result of the player making a mistake and not the game screwing them. If stuff is subtle, it's the game screwing me... It's like in this game, I'm in a race car. Dude, if you have something to tell me, tell me loud and tell me fast. That's really why we do everything with the glowing one-ups, the floating question marks, and the huge health packs."

>>5661751
Marty mantled Romero's Sadism
inb4 one of Eternal maps is a allusion to E4m2 but Sunder levels of HARD

>>5661736
anybody who uses the word mark unironically is a bigger mark than the ones they call out.

>>5661748
>"We felt like ultimately, [using the chainsaw] was so much more satisfying than just overfilling the levels with resources everywhere so you're tripping over them,"
no
>Glory kills reward health, using the flame belch shoulder attachment to burn enemies yields armor, and stringing together glory kills powers up your Blood Punch super
so it's like rock paper scissors with resources
>"We think of the player like an exterminator – you're cleaning out this facility full of cockroaches,"
neat way of looking at it
>"Doom is not trying to be an immersive game; it's not trying to be a cinematic game,"
actually based, and I honestly prefer this new HUD to the generic 2016 scifi
>Slayer Gates Replace Rune Trials
so instead of gimmicky RPG abilities we get rewarded with resources? nice
>The Rune Lineup Includes Old Favorites And Powerful New Options
nevermind
>"There's one called Target Strike. It's awesome," Stratton says. "When you use mods, it slows time.
so bullet time?
here's the rest I gathered
>more focus on FPS platforming (oh no)
>no RTX at launch (don't really care)
>no arcade at launch (fuck)
>considering mod support (cautious hope)

>>5661731
gee I cant wait to play as a generic sassy black lady marine for muh representation points

Crash? Phobos? who? never heard of them, here are shitty new characters pre approved by the screeching retards that took over everything
I hate it already

>>5661773
Anon, by the trailer we know that Eternal will be Prime on Crack
which is probably good, because Prime 4 Devs are looking for some inspiration

>>5661751
>really fast
Looked like slayer man moved at a brisk jog. There's dashing, sure, but... nah, I don't think so. It's slow. Gotta have the SSG grapple out to move quicker? Don't like it.

>>5661748
This is looking really cool. It feels strange being hyped for a new action game

>>5661773
It’s more like they just took whatever they did for the slowmo weapon wheel and repurposed it for a gun. Seems like they’re making getting headshots even easier than it was before, which I don’t like. It’s a FPS, you should be rewarded for actually being able to aim.
Anyways, I just got done playing arcade mode a few hours ago, and I have to say, after using the haste powerup and the “speed up glory kills” rune, I’m a bit nervous about going back to the slower pace.

>>5661689
>doomguy comes out as trans in eternal

>>5661789
Arcade mode was pretty good. Can’t wait to see it for Eternal in an update.

>>5661786
Yeah I don't know why they're pushing this "gotta go fast" mentality when it doesn't even look that speedy. Between the running and the jerky dashes, the physics look a bit fucked. Hugo used the race car comparison, but if anything, classic doom felt more like a car with how stopping caused the player to gradually slow down instead of this Unreal style where it feels odd to move.

>>5661793
Trans Grösse?

Even Clint, the chilliest dude on earth got pissed with the Keen cashgrab
>https://twitter.com/lazygamereviews/status/1139654904551620608

>>5661789
the haste power-up should've just been the default run speed, and savagery should've just been the default glory kill speed

>>5661804
they push it because they designed the combat around not stopping your guy. Its to be a contrast to current age first person action games that are quite slow in comparison. Not as fast as OG Doom for sure but a decent compromise

>>5661827
That’s too fast.

>>5660807
NEIS is like DTWID. A clueless copycat shit without any kind of notable style. If someone says it's better than Sigil, then he is either a retarded Romero hater, or just a man with a very poor taste.

>>5661827
>savagery should've just been the default glory kill speed
this
if it makes gk's faster, then there's also that

>>5661827
Im really hoping they change the rune so like you keep the speed if you are over 75 armor or something. like the infinite ammo rune, I like that one. What should be default is the air control one

>>5661837
>NEIS is like DTWID. A clueless copycat shit without any kind of notable style
Consider the following: You're retarded and missed the point of those mapsets entirely.

>>5661061
Against Thee Wickedly? That is easily the best level of episode 4. Great, puzzle style layout (those teleports, the keycards, the Cybie), some legit eyecandy design inside the castle, good challenge (not unfair like M1/M2, but pretty demanding). In many ways it felt like the predecessor of Sigil, and was Romero's favourite map of his own for a reason.

>>5661842
completely forgot about that. right, that air mobility rune made shit bearable. you'd think with "eternalguy," who has all these fancy movement options, he'd at least have the power to just control how he moves through the air

>>5660463
Sorry for the late reply but my question is what I should do with the circled area of my map. All those random smaller squares are giant crates. Map theme is a warehouse. Here's how the map should flow:
>Player spawns, fights monsters in first room outside player start. Shotgun in the small north closet by green door. Other north room is a monster closet that opens when red key is picked up.
>Can't used locked green door yet, so player goes south into hallway. Encounters red door and blocked off path, so they can only go into the west "utility" area. Orange door is secret door that's locked (switch in monster closet mentioned above).
>Player uses switch in the northern part of the utility area to open the green door and collect red key causing a small ambush in starting area. Player then proceeds through red door into loading dock area. Sees locked blue doors and proceeds into little connector room right above them.
This is where I'm kinda lost at what I should do next. They need to get the blue key next which is inside storage, go back to docks and unlock loading bay blue doors, then flip a switch inside the loading bay to lower some bollards leading to the yellow key. The area surrounding all this inside the circled area feels a little bland right now.

>>5661694
>Is it just an older Black Mirror?
Close. Black Mirror is more like a pale imitation of Twilight Zone. Though to be fair it's not like Twilight Zone doesn't have its share of bland and vapid episodes.

>>5659751
I just played some duel today with my friend over lan and he put on Dragonforce. I started playing better after that kek.

>>5661894
Black Mirror is basically Twilight Zone but by a game journalist who somehow got his head even further up his own arse than is usual for game journalists.

>>5661939
It seemed to me like it was TZ but with a focus of “technology scary”

>eternal gets a tei tenga level

>>5661946
>In the 2016 reboot DOOM, the Tei Tenga Mining Station is an offworld UAC installation
Sure, why not.

>>5661698
That explains a lot, and it makes me worry about them getting to Quake.

>>5660591

>>5660747
>>5661968
It's like nobody ever watched Indiana Jones

>>5661698
Was there anything good about The New Colossus?

>>5660750
1v1_against_your_younger_cousin.jpg

>>5659282
You got a single wad to back that up?

>>5661993
Action was decent. Everything else was fluff. There's more fluff than action.

>>5661993
The suit was kind of neat, for five seconds.

so is blood fresh supply good yet or am i better off using GDX/nblood for now?

>>5661998
At least the fluff had Max.

>>5662010
Find out for yourself.

>>5662010
There’s been some patches to fix some things, but it’s still not perfect. Give Nightdive some more time. Until then, stick with BloodGDX or NBlood.

In Hideous Destructor, how the heck do I unload a rifle-mounted grenade launcher?

I know I can unload the mags with the unload key, but once a grenade is in that barrel, I don't see a way to get it out. I often just drop it on the ground in favor of another rifle with a nade already in the chamber, but I feel like that's a lot of boom going to waste.

>>5662020
>Give Nightdive more time
I really don't trust their promises, not with what they're doing with the SS1 remake.

They say one thing and then do the opposite, or do fuck all.

>>5662058
you have to select the grenade launcher like you're going to fire it, then press unload
there really should be an alt-fire unload option for it

>>5662072
Shit why didn't I think of that
Thank you based anon

Also is it intentional that when you take off/put on armor or rad suits, you slow down to walk speed for a couple seconds?

>>5662076
i think its intentional but im not 100% sure

Anyone else had this instead of quake as a kid?

>>5662076
Obviously. No ghost code fucking up your game, anon.

>>5662082
>nerf

>>5662083
>>5662080
Yeah, sorry, dumb question. Y'kno, FNG.

>>5662090
I'll take one nothing, please.

>>5661837
>DTWID
>A clueless copycat

>>5661987
There's no button to throw sand though.

Is Nightmare Underworld somewhat similar to Duke Nukem's Abyss? The same Indiana Jones style adventure between canyons, except one with aliens and the other with demons.

>>5662090
Oh hey, I just bought one of those for my new puppy.
It's loud as SHIT.

How come Hideous Destructor is so popular lately? Seen a lot more people asking about it than usual

>>5662110
I think we have at least two newbies
they make me wanna get back into it so you may see more of it

>>5662110
it's like one of the most advanced mods

>>5662082
no, my parents arent christian

>>5662105
HDestructor has (or maybe had) a function where you could flick boogers or kick sand to disorient enemies

>>5662110
Appeal to autism, it overtook stuff like Legendary Complex Clusterfuck fuckity fuck fuck Edition for first place in that meta.

>>5662114
I'm one of the newbies

Here's me taking a selfie at E1M8 as a souvenir. First time I made it through Episode 1 on Hideous, including the secret level

Should I keep going onto E2+E3+E4+Doom2, or something else?

>>5662130
Keep going for at least E2 and E3, the first three episodes play pretty decently for HD, E2 especially.

>>5662137
Cool, thanks. Will do
Also I wonder why this encumbrance setting isn't at 1.0 by default. Once I noticed it what it does, it plays much more fun enforcing a limit on you like that

>>5662130
Do E2 and 3 at least. E4 is absolutely brutal even for an experienced player. Doom 2 is more reasonable, I don't think any community wads really do a better job of introducing the new monsters.

>>5662082
Nah we played hard core games in computer class

>>5662154
>Ophelia?

>>5662129
I wish zandro would implement zscript down the line, HD multi would be great

>>5662154
you know its weird that besides nun with a gun you barely play as clergy people in Doom mods

I would pay big money to play as this fucking psychopath

>>5662163
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-8wua3uDVk

>>5662164
It's mostly ended up being a Hexen thing for that sort of player character.

>>5662114
Talking about hideous destructor, does anyone knows why the loadouts disappear?

Terminus is trying out Ashes 2063.

https://www.twitch.tv/terminusest13

>>5662171
besides wrath of chronos is there anything gameplay/mapset related that gives the full DEUS VULT experience?

>>5662180
GMOTA?

>>5662173
They don't disappear for me. What version are you on?

>>5662164
>nun and gun game

>>5662180
was this comic done by the guy who did hunters moon?

assuming theres an extra panel where the dude fucks the dragon's feet

>>5662201
>hunters moon
>furry feet fetish art

huh?

>>5662195
Must be the latest i downloaded a few weeks ago, everything worked fine but a few days I wanted to play and I only can do it as naturalist.
Maybe if I downloaded again it will work normally

>>5662204
We have a lot of not very smart people here, don't worry about it.

>>5662206
Current git version works just fine for me.
https://github.com/MatthewTheGlutton/HideousDestructor

If it keeps giving you problems, try the stable version though.

Carmack, you motherfucker

>>5662216
Also why do I like Doomguy better with glasses?

>>5662204
Ignore cringeposters.

>finish up chocolate runs of 1/2
>get to E4M2 of Smoothdoom playthrough of 1
>start 2 and don't return to E4M2 until I'm on map 26 of 2
I hate just about everything about E4M2. E4M1 doesn't even bother me that much.

>>5662082
>>5662121
my parents are both christian and only my mom had a problem with FPS, my dad raised me on Wolf ET and I stole his copy of Q3A

>>5662082
I unironically like this game more than UT

>>5659583
Anyone know how to change the position of the nailguns and nail projectiles in Quake 1?

>>5662229
My parents were both christians but didn't pay attention to what I played because they thought videogames were all like Mario, galaxian or bomberman but everything changed when they saw me playing grand theft auto 3, they grabbed me and forcedme to delete it or they are trowing the computer out of the window, I deleted the direct access and fooled them

>>5662240
what do you mean?

>>5662164
I remember Preacher being a WAD where you played as a preacher.

>>5662242
"Just gonna delete this desktop shortcut aaaaand done. GONE."
I have no idea what you mean by direct access.

>>5662217
maybe he looks good in everything
even make up

>>5662242
My parents were the same way, but in my case it was Redneck Rampage of all things.

So many Christians in here. We should ban swearing.

>>5662278
Hopefully the "muh angels are bad too" Doom Eternal thing purges them

Nah just kidding I have no problem with religious anons

>>5662273
Being in great shape makes you look good in a lot of clothes and apparel.

>>5662265
A destock shortcut, in my language it's called "direct access" (acceso directo )

>>5662294
Ok, got it.

>>5660734
Torch puzzle is at the beginning of that level, invisible bridge is at the tail end of the level

>>5662278
Doom it's a christian game

>>5662240
There’s a file on QuakeOne I think, that spawns the nails in the proper position, just look up “quake 1 nail fix”

>>5662246
>>5662310

Like moving the SNG to the right side of the screen with the nails

>>5662323
I’m not too versed with Quake modding or QuakeC, but I suppose you could fish around the progs or dat files and simply change the position of the weapons.
Or you could use Fitzquake Mark V and change it in the options.

Newfag to Quake mapping (and mapping in general), I know this is kind of a loaded question but what's the best way to go about starting a map? Drawing it, making it up as you go? And how do I avoid making a bunch of boxes?