HOMM/MM (Heroes of) Might & Magic(:Heroes) General

[Anonymous No.5638398]

Where are you guys? Almost a week without new thread?

Previous Thread: >>5576925
HoMM3 pastebin: https://pastebin.com/6G9B1cMA

[Anonymous No.5638512]

All the things that could have been said about HoMM have already been said and talking about mods is a shitpost crusade.

[Anonymous No.5638617]

>>5638512
We can discuss MM too.

[Anonymous No.5638632]

>>5638512
The same can be said about every /vr/ game. They've all been out for at least 19 years.

[Anonymous No.5639298]

>>5638398
Goddamn that is some supremely shitty art.

[Anonymous No.5639609]

>>5639298
It's official art, one of the single player's choose scenario screen in AB if I'm not wrong.

[Anonymous No.5640625]

It's Week of the Pixies!
Get ready to spank some pixies!

[Anonymous No.5640704]

>>5640625
What would you do if you had a pixie in your possesion, /vr/?

[Anonymous No.5641989]

>>5640704
Sniffing pixie dust of course.

[Anonymous No.5643576]

>>5641989
Can you get high by sniffing pixie dust?

[Anonymous No.5645179]

Who the fuck thought sea witches were a good idea holy shit, I thought the cove was nerfed

[Anonymous No.5645194]

Any advice on the 9th mission of the good campaign?
Feeling a bit overwhelmed by the AI here.

[Anonymous No.5645386]

>>5639609
>If I'm not wrong
>File: solmyr_by_bonefletcher
We should've stayed dead.

[Anonymous No.5645549]

>playing HoMM3 in summer

[Anonymous No.5646152]

>>5645194
If it is the one I am thinking of there are a few choke points. Keep them locked down and move out with Phoenix until you get Titans rolling. Grab the resources and mines on your side of the mountains ASAP. You are very ore/wood starved if you try to tech up all 3 cities, so ignore the human city aside from a statue for gold.

[Anonymous No.5646624]

Can someone point me to where I can download the game?
Played it as a kid and really craving it

[Anonymous No.5646801]

>>5646624
>where I can download the game?
The pastebin has a mega link that contains Might and Magic 1-8 and Heroes 1-4, so you could try them out.
You can also go to TPB and download the GOG version of it:
>https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/12170355/Heroes_of_Might_and_Magic_III_(Complete_Edition)___Patch_[GOG]
That being said, GOG is selling the game for $4 (or whatever is your regional equivalent), which isn't really all that much even if you're poor, so if you don't want to hassle with torrents or mega links, just buy it there.

Whatever you choose to do, DO NOT get the Heroes III HD version - it's just a shitty reskin and lacks both expansions and a random map generator. Just install the unofficial HD patch and you're good to go!
>https://sites.google.com/site/heroes3hd/

[Anonymous No.5647696]

>>5646152
That helped me through that damned mission. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.5647721]

Dark...the magic of EVIL

[Anonymous No.5648231]

>HOMM III thinking modern PCs were low spec
How do i fix this?

[Anonymous No.5648453]

>>5638512
I'd like to discuss HoMM 5-7 but then I'd have to go on fucking /v/ and I don't want that.

[Anonymous No.5649371]

>>5648453
are there newer homm/mm threads in /v/?

[Anonymous No.5649441]

>>5646801
Thank you sir

[Anonymous No.5649451]

How do I git gud at Homm3?

[Anonymous No.5649835]

in M&M7 can you delete items? i got 2 quest hats on emerald island i the 1 extra is just sitting there in my inventory now and i cant sell it
>>5649451
just get diplomacy lol

[Anonymous No.5649940]

>>5649451
You play it, try the Shadow of death campaigns, you should be less worthless once you've finished them

[Anonymous No.5649954]

Homm5 is great gameplay wise and nobody can deny that

[Anonymous No.5649990]

Anyone else like V more than III?
Like III is a great game but V is so much more fun.
Also opinions on the new ones?I played 6 and it's ok when it works, but the campaign is so bad cuz instead of them making the level hard by good design they just make the enemy have a shit ton of units that you pretty much can't beat without a shit ton of units making the games really really slow.

[Anonymous No.5650020]

>>5649990
uhrrr shut the fuck up retard

[Anonymous No.5650793]

Thoughts on "Songs of Conquest" ?

[Anonymous No.5650810]

>>5649990
either zoomer or retarded, probably both

[Anonymous No.5650820]

>>5650810
>>5650020
You guys sure destroyed him with those fine arguments.

[Anonymous No.5650838]

>>5650820
>Needing arguments against someone stating they like B over A in an A thread.

Go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.5650845]

>>5650838
Make me.

[Anonymous No.5650846]

>>5650820
>needing to argue with someone praising anything past homm3

kek

[Anonymous No.5650878]

>>5650793
>Thoughts on "Songs of Conquest" ?
I've already said farewell to HoMM after Ubishit turned it into a gacha game, so it can only pleasantly surprise me. The number of factions is limited but I'm sure they'll be able to add more if the game turns out to be successful. Also, I understand this was a stylistic choice but it's a bit too pixelated for my tastes. Sill, I'm cautiously optimistic about it.

>>5649441
>Thank you sir
No problem anon!

>>5649990
>but V is so much more fun
Don't get me wrong, V did a lot of things well (story definitely not being one of those things) but it simply isn't as replayable as HoMM III (few things are). And in the end, if you're able to play something for 20 years and not get bored, that means it's fun.

[Anonymous No.5650886]

>>5650793
>Thoughts on "Songs of Conquest" ?
I've already said farewell to HoMM after Ubishit turned it into a gacha game, so it can only pleasantly surprise me. The number of factions is limited but I'm sure they'll be able to add more if the game turns out to be successful. Also, I understand this was a stylistic choice but it's a bit too pixelated for my tastes. Sill, I'm cautiously optimistic about it.

>>5649441
>Thank you sir
No problem anon!

>>5649990
>but V is so much more fun
Don't get me wrong, V did a lot of things well (story definitely not being one of those things) but it simply isn't as replayable as HoMM III (few things are). And in the end, if you're able to play something for 20 years and not get bored, that means it's fun.

[Anonymous No.5650914]

>>5649990
>>5650886
I like V because it returns to the spirit of HoMM. IV was an entirely different game.

[Anonymous No.5651071]

>>5650914
IV was a shitfest because it was released at alpha. Still better than anything ubisoft ever attempted to do

[Anonymous No.5651113]

>>5651071
You just hate Ubisoft. V is better than the shittiest IV. Dunno about VI-VII, never play them.

[Anonymous No.5651139]

>>5651113
both are shit my meme friend

[Anonymous No.5652829]

>>5649371
rarely but yes.
who cares though, it's full of greentexting douchebags and retards.

[Anonymous No.5653190]

>>5645194
I accidentally killed Roland there.
Didn't knew you could do this as an ally

[Anonymous No.5653208]

>>5649990
no
While V hat a lot of good ideas, the story was absolute garbage, and the maps were bad. It's like you are running down endless corridors.

[Anonymous No.5653218]

>>5649990
3 is more refined of a game, especially aesthetically speaking and it makes me feel nostalgic and longing for the past because of sprites and hero portraits and the way the music sounds and how it performs. I'm just not such a huge fan of shitty WoW-esque graphics either and I think that the Inferno faction looked inauthentic concept-wise. that tower was too human-like in terms of architecture and that gate and those walls you could build around it looked mismatched compared to what's behind. academy faction was very well done however. the most awkward decision was to implement in-between turns music for every faction. it's so annoying especially while playing Inferno because it's such intense music. Because with that design choice it makes you wonder if you're gonna fully listen and appreciate every terrain soundtrack there is like you could in Heroes 3. In H4 it doesn't matter so much because the turns go by really fast but it's terrible in 5 with all the loading times.

I think Heroes 6 looks so much nicer than 5. same with 7. 6 performs horribly though and gate rushing pisses me off. I guess that shit annoys me less in 3 but I don't know why.

[Anonymous No.5654321]

>>5650793

This looks very good. Actually.. the only interesting game in 2019 e3.

[Anonymous No.5654651]

>>5643576
Pixie dust is just dried and crushed psilocybe mushrooms.

[Anonymous No.5655264]

>>5654321
>the only interesting game in 2019 e3
>what is Cyberpunk 2077, Ghostwire Tokyo, Carrion, My Friend Pedro, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Desperados III, 12 minutes, Elden Ring and The Legend of Wright
Anon, I'm afraid we can't be friends anymore.

[Anonymous No.5656268]

[Anonymous No.5656273]

>>5650886

>pixelshit

[Anonymous No.5656407]

>>5653190
I suicide-surrendered to Roland's forces so that I could buy my hero with his entire army in a different, far-off city, abusing a Poor Man's Town Portal strategy.

[Anonymous No.5656636]

Can anyone advice me on a little matter?
I have HoMM3 GOG version with ERA 2 and HD Mod on top of it (installed in that order). When I start Era game, more often than not I can't see how many units I have in any given stack when viewing hero screen. This also includes WoG's ranks. I looked over HD Mod tweaks, but didn't notice anything that may cause it, did anyone else had this problem?

[Anonymous No.5657235]

>MM7
>wall of mist
>got the 3 keys
>used them
>got almost killed by the faggots there, decided to run away to heal the 3 dead party members
>when i got back the fake wall that the 3 keys open is there again
>i dont longer have the 3 keys
>autosave and last save are after losing the keys
FUCKING WALL OF MIST ITS MY FIRST RUN BUT IM NEVER DOING GOOD PATH AGAIN

[Anonymous No.5657279]

>>5657235
That place is meant for you to go in with invisibility grab a key, run out, and repeat.

[Anonymous No.5657493]

>>5638398
Gabe Newell said him having to buy HOMM 3 or 4 four times because he kept breaking the physical copies is a reason to switch to digital

[Anonymous No.5657886]

>>5657235
this place has bug

[Anonymous No.5657890]

>>5657279
those feels when I completed it without invisibility just for the challenge

[Anonymous No.5658031]

>>5657493
Source?

[Anonymous No.5658550]

>>5658031
That guy, yes.

[Anonymous No.5658558]

>>5656273

What are you doing in /vr/?

Get the fuck out Zoomer piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.5658561]

>>5658558
making pixel games nowadays is hipster shit

[Anonymous No.5658573]

>>5658561
imagine playing a game for it's gameplay

wait

[Anonymous No.5658603]

>>5656273
>Homm thread
>complains about pixelart
were you born retarded, or did you just get curb stomped too many times for being a sightless troglodyte?

[Anonymous No.5658987]

>>5638398
Anyone able to give some advice on which M&M games I should play other than 6 (which I played recently and really enjoyed).

[Anonymous No.5659001]

>>5658987
Try M&M3 and if you enjoy it you can play the World of Xeen games for more of the same

[Anonymous No.5659860]

bleh

[Anonymous No.5660569]

>>5659860
ssssssssacha

[Anonymous No.5660645]

>>5657279
yeah i retried it and now that i knew wher the keys were it was no problem at all, even without invis
but now i have the problem that i dont know how to get into the pit

[Anonymous No.5660651]

>>5649371
The point is more than /v/ is easily the worst board on the site. Unfunny jokes, bad bait threads, and generally people ruin good threads all the time with garbage.

[Anonymous No.5660716]

>>5660645
nvm, found it

[Anonymous No.5660953]

Phoenixes should not have been made of fire (no sources give it a fiery appearance), and should not be immune to fire and should not be the fastest unit in the game. Rebirth is fine.

Arch devils with its teleport should have been the fastest unit in the game and should be immune to fire (dudes are literally teleporting through fire) and fits thematically much better with Inferno/armageddon and give inferno a much needed boost.

CHANGE MY MIND

[Anonymous No.5661040]

>>5660953
>CHANGE MY MIND
I'd lowkey like the change from a thematic standpoint but that'd just mean you'd do the same broke Armageddon strat with Devils instead of Phoenixes.

[Anonymous No.5661163]

>>5660953
>give inferno a much needed boost
There are better ways to do that than boosting a unit that is already a superfast non-retal nuker that allows you to take Utopias with trivial losses or hordes of walkers with zero losses, and there are not enough good reasons to boost a faction that has a fairly strong building curve and the demon farming strategy.

Tower is a worse town than Inferno in most metagames anyway, including SoD.

[Anonymous No.5662787]

>>5661163
>Tower is a worse town than Inferno
why?
slower movement?
expensive?

[Anonymous No.5662873]

>>5662787
both Tower and Inferno suffer from having bad hero classes and bad biome to start on meaning worse map features, but Tower also has a whopping top speed of 13, is expensive as all hell, and even though you want Master Grems in the first week it delays your overall build by a lot. When Tower is pretty much a port of a HoMM2 city with a few units changed around but everything costs the same, but you gate the best Wizard feature (powerful shooters right off the bat) behind an upgrade the build order becomes stressful to plan out and execute on week 1.

Nagas and Efreeti are somewhat comparable in terms of a creeping power boost, but Efreeti are much faster and less reliant on an upgrade to move. Titans take forever to get to; stockpiling them can get you an impressive army or it can sit in your town while the map is decided without them and Giants are fairly fragile for what they are, and losing one means losing a future Titan; in contrast, Devils are hard to kill with the right micro.

Also, Inferno has demon farming; it has endless potential, but is hard to pull off.

It also has quite a bit to do with the popularity of templates that separate players with strong guards; on more open templates Tower is more liable to snowball a tiny bit by taking someone out early.

The only reason Inferno gets a bad rap while Tower usually doesn't is because Inferno's pound for pound full army strength is lackluster and the early game with Imps is tenuous, but playing fantasy football in a vacuum while waiting for your Capitol isn't how the game actually plays.

[Anonymous No.5664801]

>>5659860
bleh too

[Anonymous No.5666012]

>>5661040
Inferno can use Armageddon tactics using Efreets

[Anonymous No.5667304]

>>5656407
>I suicide-surrendered to Roland's forces so that I could buy my hero with his entire army
i don't get it

[Anonymous No.5667913]

>>5650810
HoMM5 is 13 years old. Its almost /vr/ material at this point

[Anonymous No.5667947]

>>5667304
If you engage any enemy hero (wandering stacks don't work) in combat and surrender, you can buy them out in any town with their army at the time of the surrender fully intact. The cost of the surrender scales with the size of your army, so I seem to recall that I paid like 15000 gold and then another 2500g for the rebuy, but it was worth it to quickly traverse my whole army to the other side of the map.

Roland is technically an ally, but in HoMM2 that distinction is only coded as "both players get the same victory screen when their victory conditions are met", so it's possible to attack your ally.

[Anonymous No.5668072]

Why is she such a useless slut /vr/?

For that matter why did they make so many trash heroes? You can generally count the number of actually playable heroes in each faction on one hand.

[Anonymous No.5668089]

>>5668072
>For that matter why did they make so many trash heroes?
Because with the design model of "HoMM2, but new and improved" HoMM3 was generally working off the assumption that it's the primary hero class that will be the most important distinction, not the secondary, and that a roleplaying flavor matters.

It mostly shows on characters like Barbarians. No matter what Barbarian you find in tavern (if you play a faction with shit hero classes), they're likely decent enough even if you're wasting a single secondary skill or a hero specialty.

[Anonymous No.5668619]

>>5667947
so your starting hero starts far from his town in that scenario? i don't remember the maps, i played them in 90s.

[Anonymous No.5669064]

>>5668619
No, his town and hero are locked into an island to the NW that has a single one-way portal leading to it. I stumbled upon the portal, discovered Roland there, saw that I can't "exchange" with him like I expected to, and added 2+2.

[Anonymous No.5670119]

>>5658550
>>5658031
Not me, straight out of the fat kike's mouth
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digital-overtaking-retail-for-valve
>This is just a more reliable and dependable situation. I mean, I bought Heroes of Might and Magic four different times now, I swear."

[Anonymous No.5672348]

I wish there was some way to make the AI better so it could provide a challenge beyond several of 'em ganging up on you in the first month.

[Anonymous No.5673596]

>>5668089
i wish there are archery specialists for town with at least 2 shooters like tower & conflux. cove (hota) also has 2 shooters and cannon (special siege weapon)

[Anonymous No.5675819]

So we reached the bump limit again?

[Anonymous No.5675956]

>>5675819
this thread is so slow compared to previous threads