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5629657 No.5629657 [Reply] [Original]

Why is it so hard to buy decent stuff on Ebay? It's either overpriced crap or idiot sellers.
>See a cheap vectrex
>Seller says collection only
>place good high bid
>Seller contacts me, asking if I'm sure I can collect
>Tell him I will arrange courier
>that's no good anon, you must collect because reasons
>he cancels my bid
>mfw it ends at half of my bid

>> No.5629839

>>5629657
People are retards, who knew?

>> No.5629954

>>5629657
Have you ever sold anything on eBay lately? It's a total pain in the arse with fees out the whazoo.
Then you get ripped off by some arsehole claiming they didn't get the item or some shit

>> No.5630116

>>5629954
Yeah, I have and I get your point. But I told the seller I would buy it then arrange collection, as per Ebay rules if I win and pay but didn't collect, by Ebays rules I would have no recourse. I fucked up really, I should have told him I'd collect it during my job working for DHL. He couldn't prove otherwise lol.

>> No.5631053

>>5629657
>Seller says collection only
>bid knowing I can't collect
>Cry about my failure on the internet

>> No.5631192

>>5631053
But it's being collected by a courier. How is this any different than op going in his own car? The seller lost money because he has a weird hang up about dealing with couriers? That's stupidity on the sellers part.

>> No.5631275

>>5629657
To be fair the , ill have a courier pick it up is a common scam

>> No.5631383

>>5631275
But if it's been paid for via PayPal what's the problem?

>> No.5631427

>>5631192
>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Educating children about eBay scams is not that.
The seller lost nothing. He sold something to legit buyer at a price he was happy with. OP bid knowing full well he couldn't collect the item as required. If he's willing to do that why trust him at all?

>>5631383
>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Educating children about eBay scams is not that.

>> No.5631487

>>5629657
eBay seller here. I would NEVER do this if you paid with paypal. Could see the chargeback coming from miles away.

>> No.5631790

>>5631487
So paying via Visa would be better for the seller? I never thought about the charge back, probably because I genuinely wanted it and wasn't intending to screw him.

>> No.5631791

>>5631427
What a tit. How about giving op advice instead of parroting the same thing to different posts

>> No.5631809

I'm sure the guy selling it wanted to avoid the "it arrived damaged" claim that is no doubt very common with Vectrex. In his eyes, handing it over to a courier OP arranged is no different than shipping it himself as there was never a "buyer acknowledges system is working and accepts possession" moment. In not sure how it actually works but knowing eBay if there was a dispute they would settle in the buyers favor.

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5631817

>>5629657
based

he BTFO your faggot reseller scammer ass

>> No.5631848

>>5629657

My persnal favorite was last night when I went looking for a GBC. There are a TON of morons selling DSes with the top screen ripped off the hinges for $70-80 as "Game Boy Mega" or some shit. I wound up buying a refurb DS from some Chinese seller for $30.

>> No.5631883

>>5631848
That's never going to arrive, it's a common Chinese scam. They set the shipping to the maximum and hope the buyer forgets about it by the time he can dispute it.

>> No.5631892

>>5631817
Nice projecting

>> No.5631898

>>5631791
>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Educating children about eBay scams is not that.

>> No.5633432
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5633432

I bet OP is pic realted.
Kys OP.

>> No.5634409

>>5633432
You first.

>> No.5634413

>>5629657
no anon you must collect . he has a personal add in the news paper this weekend to sell himself as a fuck slut gimp and he needs a stunt man because fucking gross but hes a guy so he canyt be seen on some street corner in pantyhose and he doesnt want stuff in his butt so you need to collect anon. you may never be seen again and you may die from anal trauma but dude vectrex

>> No.5634437 [DELETED] 

>>5633432
Do this with other people than random races. Try all of one, like niggers or chinese.

>> No.5634542

>>5631883
Sounds like the chinks alright

>> No.5634995

>>5634413
Funny I had the fear over him being a bit buffalo bill desu.

>> No.5635064

>>5629657
it's good ebay practice to you know, not do anything fishy. good on the seller for refusing your bid, arranging a courier is a definite red flag, especially when they can just sell to someone who won't give them any hassle.

>> No.5635875

>>5635064
He lost £100, it's no real hassle for him though is it? Other sellers had delivery set at £20, had he set the sale to include delivery he would be better off.

>> No.5636596

>>5635875
He didn't loose anything except maybe a bit of time dealing with a tard. You weren't a legit bidder and there's no evidence he wouldn't have actually lost everything had he handed his shit over to you.

>> No.5636617

>>5633432
Is there a term for this idiotic millennial grimace yet?

>> No.5636783

>>5636596
I was a legit bidder, that's my point. If I was a scammer I'd be busy scamming people, not whining about losing out on buying something that's not very common on UK Ebay.

>> No.5636807

>>5636783
Well it asks me that you can get Amiga CD32s for like fifty bucks still but that shipping from the UK to the US costs a damn arm and a leg while shopping from China is cheaper than domestic rates somehow. Not that I'd trade my Vectrex for a CD32 but still.

>> No.5636938

>>5636783
>I was a legit bidder
lol. No. You're a scammer who bid knowing full well you couldn't fulfill your obligations as a buyer. A stupid entitled little shit who even now can't accept that he was wrong.

>> No.5637187

>>5636938
Nope. I'm probably twice your age. Plenty of people put down collection only, purely to save on delivery on bulky items. You know a lot about scamming, you're obviously the kind of guy who always says they never received items to get them free.

>> No.5638941

>>5636617
Its kind of the opposite of a grimace, just a bad picture trend among dorks trying to appear to be excited and failing at making it look natural at all.

>> No.5638948

>>5637187
You being a legitimate buyer is all well and good, but the seller has no way of knowing that. You can't expect someone to not take precautions given how sketchy Ebay can be.

>> No.5638968

>>5638941
Basic white bitches have their duck face
Basic white so yboys have their surprised face

It's what happens when an entire group of people feels the need to remix the simple smile

>> No.5639040

>>5637187
Yup. Seller said collection only and you knew you couldn't collect. Are you as retarded as you are young my little projectlet? But good math on that projecting. You probably are pretty close to half my age. I know a lot about scamming because I have to deal with scammers like you all the time. I do exactly the same thing the other seller did. Tell them to get fucked.

>> No.5639049

>>5631192
That shit sounds like a scam, I would have cancelled too.

>> No.5639336

>>5636617
>Is there a term for this idiotic millennial grimace yet?
I suggest 'Where's the beef', since they all look like they're waiting to suck a big dick.

>> No.5639416

>>5636617
I think basedface is the most common I've heard

>> No.5639420

>>5639416
Obviously filtered but I'm sure you can figure it out

>> No.5639976

>>5636617
s
o
yface

>> No.5640232

>>5636617
Cuckface is the actual term.

>> No.5641924

>>5629657
eBay is shit. Everything has been overpriced there for so long that it's no longer viable. I go there once a week just to see if someone has accidentally placed something there of any value. Nope.

And then everyone wonders how Steam became huge.

>> No.5642296

>>5641924
>I go there once a week
got no search-assistants set up to send you a mail about new offers?
n00b..

>> No.5643282

>>5642296
Examples?

>> No.5643393

>>5629657
I'm siding with the seller, your whole proposal sounds like an absolute scam.

>> No.5643471
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5643471

>>5631192
>have friend to go pick it up
>friend gives you item
>file a claim with ebay you never got it
>ebay being as notorious as it is siding with the buyer over the most insane shit sides with the guy giving him his money back
>seller is now out of both his item and money
That's why he canceled you dumb fuck.

>> No.5644598

>>5643471
A courier would have records of it being collected, the seller could have confirmed condition to the courier. The buyer would then have no recourse to claim against him as it was collected as stated in the sale.

>> No.5644615

>>5629657
>auction at $100 for a lightmeter that usually sells for $300
>description is very unclear, but it is obvious the item is good
>want it for a trip, but auction ends two days before I leave, making it unlikely to receive it in time
>make an offer of $200
>gets rejected
>bid at $100 for shit and giggles
>actually get it
>ship it to where I was going on trip and it was there to use when I arrived

Dude lost out on $100.

>> No.5644728

>>5643282
what do you mean?

>> No.5644762

>>5644728
>Search assistants

>> No.5644801

>>5644762
Fucking saved searches you turbotard.

They're literally the only way to have a chance of winning on eJew.

>> No.5644813

>>5629657
Sounds like retard audiophiles who will demand to interview you in person about your interest in music before the decide to offer to sell you their Sennheiser headphones.

>> No.5644857

>>5644598
That's if the courier is legit. Also there have been cases where sellers straight up record footage of the item in good condition, packaging it, and shipping it out AND STILL ebay sides with the buyer trying to scam them by either claiming it was damaged or not as advertised. ebay is usually a last resort for people trying to sell stuff because it's way too easy to get scammed since almost always takes the side of the buyer and this isn't even going into if they used paypal as a form of purchase. If you go on /'toy/ they got tons of horror stories of when they either got or were nearly scammed by someone.

>> No.5644895

>>5644857
Didn't know people went to such lengths to scam people. Couldn't be arsed to go through the hassle for something under £100. I'd rather just pay for it.

>> No.5644909

>>5629657
Sellers aren't here to give you deals, we're here to rip you off. Shut the fuck up, place your bid/pay the listing and wait for your toy.

>> No.5644924
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5644924

>>5629657
>Get an email for my snes listing
>hello yes is your item still available i would like to purchase it right now.
>(its still listed, isn't that obvious, dude?) 'Yes, it's available'
>oh ok, so then I will send you my paypal, please send me the invoice, thank you, this is for my son. it is a gift. my email is (chinese@outlook)
>'sorry, I only sell through ebay'
>no further emails from guy

>> No.5645004

>>5644615
you expected the seller to end the auction and sell outside of eBay?
or end the auction and put up a BIN for $200?
>seller does as asked, buyer ignores, seller has to start auction again
this has happened so often that a smart seller will never end an auction at buyer request
sure, they lost money this time, but they had no way of knowing that
sounds like a smart, experienced seller
I was a seller in a similar situation
>started auction at $50, would've been satisfied with 1 bid
>offered $200
>holy shit, is my item more desired than I realized?
>politely decline after reading seller horror stories
>auction ended at $350
so you never know

>>5644924
here's an example of a smart seller

>> No.5645076

>>5644598
>being this retarded

>> No.5645085

>>5644895
There's a lot of pathetic people out there who will do what they can to get free shit.

>> No.5645176

I don't understand how this could be seen a scam from Op. So what if he uses a courier? Wouldn't the seller have his money already by the time the package was picked up?

>> No.5645185

>>5645004

> you expected the seller to end the auction and sell outside of eBay?

He had the option to make an offer. Why do that if not open to accepting anything?

>> No.5645197

>>5645185
That’s true and it’s documented through eBay’s message function which everyone should only use to communicate for documentation purposes.

>> No.5645205

>>5645185
why didn't you say that to begin with?
so the seller gambled and lost
big deal
sometimes you win, sometimes you lose
that doesn't mean the seller is an idiot
as you implied

>> No.5645270

>>5645176
Ebay and Paypal are notorious for siding with buyer claims against even documented proof from sellers. They know they already have sellers by the balls because they're the main/only option, so they use "buyer safety" as a feature to attract people to buy from their sellers. Thieves know all about this, and they exploit the fuck out of it to get free shit at the expense of the people they're scamming. Ebay and Paypal lose nothing because the people being scammed have no other serious choice but to keep using them.

summary:
Ebay to buyers: "Everything is free if you don't want to pay for it"
Ebay to sellers: "You will be scammed and you will pay for the privilege, wtf are you going to do about it?"

>> No.5645469

>>5645076
I've sold stuff that the seller claims he didn't receive. I had pics of the courier collecting it and screenshots of all delivery updates including the final delivery alert. He can't told to fuck off and I wasn't forced to refund him.

>> No.5645785

>>5645270
Wow that's greasy. You couldn't demand e transfer either because the scam would just happen the other way around.

>> No.5645846

>>5643282
Literally just save a search and ebay emails you when new listings appear. God you people are noobs. This is how you get shit cheap fools. I got the Konami color gb collection cheap from patience and saved searches.

>> No.5645849

>>5644857
Toy is full of autistic faggots who screech if a fleck of paint is missing from the bottom of a shoe

>> No.5645876

>>5645846
I thought he meant there was some other type of programme that would search for something I want. You know that looks for spelling mistakes etc.

>> No.5645879

>>5645876
you can do that too I forget how to do it on ebay but I think you search (nintendo) in parentheses like that and it comes up with anything close to that, I dont recall if thats how to actually do it but I do know ebay has that feature because I would use it myself when finding japanese games

>> No.5645940

>>5645879
Thanks.

>> No.5645947

>>5645940
its not brackets I just went to try that, I wish I could remember dude someone on this board showed me years ago.

>> No.5645981
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5645981

I've bought and sold a lot on ebay with no issues beside a couple of times I got games that didn't work but was instantly refunded so no issue but there was one

>Parasite Eve NTSC/UC up for auction
>Pretty rare in Europe due to no PAL release
>Low bid amount but it's missing the "disc 3" Square promo disc
>Snipe bid it at 2 seconds to finish and get it for almost a quarter of what some muppets are trying to sell it at buy it now prices
>Get it delivered to me in a paper thin letter
>obviously got damaged in transit, case is chipped in one corner and the bottom of it is split which causes the hinges to pop out when opened
>tell the seller with photos showing the damage
>"hurr durr it's not my fault it's the postage service"
>point out it was he who packaged it in a literal paper bag with no protection and he selected which postage service to use
>becomes clear that he's pissed that it sold for so little to me
>claims that he had other interest but it was outside of ebay (bullshit if you ask me, it wasn't a complete copy so who would be that interested)
>I ask for a partial refund to buy a replacement case
>Refuses to budge on any amount to cover it
>Demands I send it back if I'm unhappy with it but makes veiled accusation that I might break it before sending it back to spite him
>out of fustration I start the return item process and also hoping to call his bluff on thinking he can sell a damaged uncomplete copy for more
>He accepts the return
>I cancel because it was still very cheap compared to buying the discs loose

According to this thread I could've easily got a full refund, where did I go wrong?

>> No.5646529

>>5645469
>i told lies on the internet and thought i could fool anyone
lol. LARP harder underage ESL faggot

>> No.5647030

>>5638968
Nigger.

>> No.5647079

>>5646529
Of course. Just because it didn't happen to you it must be lies because millions of people all have the same experiences. It was quite expensive ECU remapping equipment and I got the best courier service i could afford.

>> No.5647121

>>5647079
It's lies because it's a bullshit story you made up to "prove" other lies. That's how bullshitters like you dig yourself into a hole. It's starts with a simple like like "seller is safe if the buyer uses a courier" But that bullshit has so many holes in it you need to prop it up with taller tales. Eventually it ends up with you talking selfies with the courier while the pope notarizes that the package contains a working item tested by an elite team of navy seal game testers.

>> No.5647290

>>5647030
time to take picture
open wide, faggot!

>> No.5647335

>>5647121
You've got a real chip on your shoulder.

>> No.5647552

>>5629657
>buy stuff with Buy It Now
>no hassles, generally get stuff at a cheap-ish price, typically from a seller with some kind of reputation to uphold

>> No.5647582

I wonder if this arrangement was a bid by game manufacturers to kill the secondhand market. Set up EBay, have it directly compete with physical secondhand stores to the point of extinction, and then change policies so they are unreliable to sellers. That, and eventually push for streaming content while eliminating physical copies. A porky capitalist wet dream.

>> No.5647625

>>5647582
Cringe.

>> No.5647707

>>5646529
Shut the hell up /pol/ and take your memes with you. Protip: For something to be a LIVE ACTION ROLEPLAY they have to you know BE DOING IT OUTSIDE IN REAL LIFE YOU FUCKING RETARD.

>> No.5647758

>>5644762
https://www.ebay.com/help/buying/search-tips/saved-searches?id=4051

>> No.5647845

>>5629657
Your biggest problem you’ll run into on eBay is shill bidders that’ll ruin a great deal on auctions. Best way to avoid this is to just bid at the last second.

>> No.5648262

>>5647758
Cheers

>> No.5649239

>>5647335
You're the one crying about getting called out for lying on the internet

>>5647707
>waaaaaahhhhh
lolololol

>> No.5649557

>>5649239
Wew. Getting this upset over nothing.

>> No.5649754

>>5649557
Wew. Getting this upset over anything

>> No.5649786

Not OP...what the fuck has happened to /vr/ since I've been away.

>> No.5649824

>>5649786
October to June. Summerfag

>> No.5649838

>>5649824

It is currently Winter where I live, dipshit.

>> No.5650251

>>5649838
So a super stupid summerfag. Got it.

>> No.5650340

>>5649239
Wow he's a /pol/tard AND A REDDITSPACER A TWOFER POOPER EVERYBODY WE GOT A TWOFER POOPER!

>> No.5650483

>>5650340
he mad

>> No.5650752

>>5650340
>/pol/tard
what did indicate that he is a /pol/ack?
>REDDITSPACER
this isn't reddit spacing,

this is.

you see what i am doing here?

after every sentence i make spacing like this.

get your fucking buzzwords right before larping as some sort of oldfag

>> No.5653186

>>5650752
Autism

>> No.5653214

Shit, double-spacing is reddit-spacing? Guess that makes all the essays I wrote in college before reddit even existed retroactively reddit.

>> No.5654320

>>5653214
Double spacing between sentences in an essay makes them written by a retard. I didn't know they had colleges for autstic downeys. What did you major in? Putting colored shapes in the right holes?

>> No.5654392

>>5629657
>>Seller contacts me, asking if I'm sure I can collect
>>Tell him I will arrange courier
what the fuck does this even mean
t. neet

>> No.5654419

>>5629954
Ive only had 1 person claim they didnt recieve the item and they got their money back but it was some dinky charm i bought for my ex that I threw in an envelope with no tracking.. If you have tracking, which you should, then I'm pretty sure this can't happen to you.You're right about the fees though.

>> No.5654653

>>5654392
A courier is an expensive package delivery service.

>> No.5654679

>>5636783
>I fucked 60 guys without protection and don't have any STDs!
Still wouldn't risk it.