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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5625186

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:

IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)

Doom RPG series

Launchers for Build Engine games



Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/








>> No.5628552

=== NEWS ===

[6-2] Sigil updated to 1.1
https://pastebin.com/p2GMUSRE (Changelog)

[6-2] Some Consolation Prize updates

[6-1] Wadsmoosh updated, now supports Sigil

[6-1] 64-bit version of OBLIGE

[6-1] SIGIL now officially available for download

[5-28] METADOOM has moved over to Zscript, SIGIL supported, Testers needed

[5-28] New LTG beta release

[5-27] Quake 2 RTX Release date in June 6

[5-26] SIGIL has been leaked, check the MEGA links in the OP

[5-23] Chex Quest 3 has been re-released officially

[5-22] SIGIL is shipping

[5-21] Redemption Of The Slain is getting a no BD version

[5-21] Cyrgoth's Manor -a 7 Level Hub FOR Hexen has been released

[5-19] Unbeliever, heretic megawad has been released

[5-18] BuildGDX update with FOV slider and other fixes, now supports Duke Nukem

[5-16] REKKR updated to v1.16

[5-15] GZDoom 4.1.2 released

[5-12] Quake 1 sounds remastered

=== PREVIOUS ===


== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5628579
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>> No.5628585

I watched ICARUS's video on Sigil. Mostly nowhere near as bad as Gman's video, but his rant about no longer taking skill and relying too much luck, while the gameplay clearly shows hes savescumming to the point of disadvantaging himself with very low health every load, really irked me.

>> No.5628591

I got the sense that Gman was just trying to get more people who have never played a game older than Halo 2 to check out Blood in general, and his title that this particular remake was very good was just misleading. The game overall is great and I think that's kind of what he was trying to say. He doesn't focus on retro content at all though, whereas someone like Civvie does just that..

>> No.5628594
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Can we have a map with this aesthetic?

>> No.5628596

I meant his Sigil video, not blood.

>> No.5628601

What are these threads even about? I'm new to all this shit. Only retro FPS I play is Q3A and Duke.

>> No.5628607

Oh shit yeah you said Sigil. Sorry.

>> No.5628610

I wanna see Romero play and comment on Plutonia. All of it.
Get rekt.

>> No.5628614

Tech support, modding and source port news. Stuff like that. Lurk it up.

>> No.5628621

We talk about playing and modding retro FPS games. Mostly Doom because it has the most active modding community, meaning constant new content to discuss.

>> No.5628654

Sigil. Pistol start. Better or worse? I like it.

>> No.5628661

Oh... that's pretty cool I guess.

>> No.5628664
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This image was in last thread. Look how cool it is

>> No.5628672
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Anything retro FPS related. Mostly shitposting and mod news. If you're looking for new stuff to try, check out some of the games that are in the mega!

>> No.5628698

Snap crackle pop.

>> No.5628707

Watercolor animu urban city?

>> No.5628712
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Mostly classic Doom and modding classic Doom (both mods and maps from before the year 2000, and after), but most people here also like a lot of other 90's shooters.
Games like Quake and Duke Nukem 3D are revered as greats, among many others, and on the subject of modifying Doom many will take a page or two from cherished classics like these, either on a superficial level or on core gameplay mechanics (I'm guilty of both).

Quake 3 Arena doesn't get a lot of discussion, but there's people here who're fond of it (it's one of the few multiplayer shooters I was ever particularly fond of, next to Day Of Defeat and Counter-Strike), and if you were to ask if anyone wants to play a game you could throw up a server and maybe play with some people.
Most people play singleplayer games here but there's the occasional multiplayer.

>> No.5628728

>He doesn't focus on retro content at all though

He has done dozens of reviews for older FPSes.

>> No.5628730

Old school FPSes (and Thief for some reason). These games (especially Doom) have mods coming out all the time. We spend most of these threads talking about those mods, but also source ports and technical problems with the games, etc. Or just random bullshit. Whatever.

>> No.5628738

>GZDoom 35fps
>Zandronem 700fps

Pls help wtf

>> No.5628741
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Can someone help me? I want to play Sigil but apparently Romero was an asshole and made the wad with limits removed so I had to get the pice of shit gzdoom again. Is there any way to make the HUD bigger? Better yet, is there any way to play gzdoom in 320x200 scaled to a 4x window?

>> No.5628742

Just play it in Boom.

>> No.5628746

But there's a wad for non-limit removed.

It's Sigil_compat

>> No.5628747

turn off cl_capfps

>> No.5628750

try that

>> No.5628751

Do a lot of mods just not have any enemies drop ammo ever? I'm noticing this is a trend and makes them pretty much unplayable on more vanilla maps, relegating them more and more to slaughter maps where you drown in enemy, maps I don't like.
Not sure if they ain't set to drop ammo or they got broke at some point by gzdoom updates because its so absurdly common I can't imagine this many otherwise good modders fucked up the same thing

>> No.5628754
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Go to HUD options in fuck with the sliders. For the 300x200 try a mod called vanilla essence. You can also just play it in crispy-doom or PrBoom+.

>> No.5628759

IWAD tag not present: SIGIL.wad
Neither is compatible with Chocolate Doom
The slider number is greyed out and even though I can fuck with it, it has no effect.

>> No.5628764

Sigil is a pwad, and play the compatibility version.

>> No.5628765

>Like 8 maps and 3 dm maps
>An iwad

>> No.5628767

post screenshots. Are you loading sigil as an iwad as well? Load it up with the standard doom.wad as an iwad.

>> No.5628773

>Load it up with the standard doom.wad as an iwad.
Can you give me the command line argument? I can get Boom to recognize DOOM.wad but I don't know how to load additional stuff with it.

>> No.5628776
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>prboom-plus -iwad doom.wad -file sigil_compat.wad
You can't get the MP3 audio to work in anything except (G)ZDoom.

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>> No.5628786
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GZDoom, not even once

>> No.5628795

looks more liek zdaemon

>> No.5628796
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Oh shit! It’s real!

>> No.5628804

Thanks. I didn't even need command line arguments. I got the original Boom at first, not prBoom. Now with prBoom I could just drag and drop like in gzDoom.

>> No.5628805

300 minutes of /vr/ is unironically probably the best megawad I've ever played.

>> No.5628816
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Is that Buckethead I hear? Sure is.

>> No.5628818

One of the great things is that there are 20+ years of fan level packs made, some which are as good, even better than the original published levels.

The added beauty here is not just good maps for base gameplay, but you can just take a gameplay mod you really like and play with these maps and map packs, and it's like having a new game almost.
Doom was made to allow for interchangeable usermade content, the base game is somewhat simple, and the sourcecode was given away in 1998, so Doom has had a very good and long shelf life.

Making a level for the original Doom is a lot easier and simpler than making maps for games like Duke Nukem 3D (which is a good game, but making maps for it isn't nearly as straight forward and clean cut), and some particularly userfriendly tools became available in the last decade.

>> No.5628820

I listened to part of the soundtrack on Youtube and I hated it. Sounds incredibly phoned in and uninspired.

>> No.5628829

Mostly doom mods and modding. Thankfully since this is /vr/ and not /vg/ it moves at a pace where it can survive and have good convos with just this. Unlike /vg/ where half the posts are just ''bump'' or shitposts just to not be drowned in the 5000 gacha threads

>> No.5628834

What's the best way to play Doom 64 currently? Only Tech1 game I haven't torn apart yet, but last I checked there wasn't a definitive way to play it.

>> No.5628835

If Sigil was as bad as some shitposter virgins say it is, then nobody would be talking about it. Sigil dominates the Doom discussion for months now. Romero made you your bitch.

>> No.5628840

I have only ever found one way to play is and it's EX

>> No.5628848

t. gas attendee

>> No.5628850

?, ?, Doomguy, assassins creed, Claptrap from Norderlands?
Hexen, ? (looks familiar, can't place it), DUKE NUKEM, Quake, Shadow Warrior
Blood, Redneck Rampage, Turok, Half-life, ?
?, I recall there being a Kiss game - was it an FPS?, Serious Sam, ?, ?

>> No.5628852

Real hardware, emulation, then 64EX

>> No.5628856

EX it is, sounds like. Thanks brosefs, its demon murder time.

>> No.5628869

No, compat is for any limit removing port. Non-compat requires a mapinfo port.

>> No.5628872
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Doom nowadays is moreso an engine with premade content and assets then it is game in and of itself.

>> No.5628878

It's both, really, which is why I think it's so good and has so much staying power.

>> No.5628880

You know it's just old bucket head tracks right? Only the first track is original.

>> No.5628881

6/10. Above average.

>> No.5628882

Ayyyy! Both versions of Sigil in the mega. Good job.

>> No.5628887

Who are most of those supposed to be?

>> No.5628889
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>Most people play singleplayer games here but there's the occasional multiplayer.

There used to be a fair deal of multiplayer here back when Best-Ever was a thing and made it easy to set up servers. It kind of whittled away though, probably doesn't help that some modders jumped ship from Zandronum to GZDoom and that the former barely updates anymore.

>> No.5628892

I've seen various comments about how great the M9 song by Jimmy is. While I don't disagree, Jimmy has always been a genious, this song really doesn't feel like a good fit to a hellish level with a badly placed Cyberdemon. More like a game ending victory song of sorts.

>> No.5628895

Top to bottom, left to right:
>Wolfenstein, Blake Stone, Doom, Heretic, Chex Quest
>Heretic, ROTT, Duke, Quake, Shadow Warrior
>Blood, Redneck Rampage, Turok, Half-Life, SIN
>Requiem: Avenging Angel, Psycho Circus, Serious Sam, Postal 2, Painkiller

Correct me if I might be wrong

>> No.5628898

There's indeed the issue that GZDoom, while being far more advanced for modding, has complete garbage for multiplayer support.

>> No.5628901

For all intents and purposes it might as well be a single player source port. An absolute shame that it's been held back so far in the multiplayer department.

>> No.5628907

All right lads, i have been avoiding it long enough, what's the best way to play ROTT?

>> No.5628912

I'm fucking stupid, I thought it was the dude from Will Rock

>> No.5628914


>> No.5628919

>There used to be a fair deal of multiplayer here back when Best-Ever was a thing and made it easy to set up servers.

I thought they just renamed themselves.

>> No.5628920

Its actually because of a few things, as someone who played the multi more than any other game in my life.
A: Complex doom. I don't know what it is with this mod, but it completely dominated the online and still does. I don't like it. A lot of people I knew didn't like it. And they stopped playing.

2: CTF was made private exclusive. No reason was given for this, the IDLF CTF server, by far the most popular one, was just private one day. This was what I mostly played.

3: 'BEST EVER' forum drama. This was the primary NA host. EU had Grandvoid. For some reason, when BE killed itself, most of the playerbase just stopped playing rather than playing on GV, despite getting decent ping on it. This was the biggest blow. It completely destroyed the playerbase and its never got even remotely close to recovering.

4: A general shift to survival and LMS because people seem to want to watch more than to play. And because there are less players and death matters so much in these, you invariably get TK'ers or stallers who come in and kill the servers. Same guys every time.

5: Too many variants on popular mods. Like 5 different versions of GVH. All worse than vanilla. But the doom online playerbase likes to play anything 'new' even if its worse. So they play it rather than vanilla, remember its shit, leave and it just stays dead. This killed a lot of mods. They just can't leave shit alone.

On the other side, the MM8BDM community added a lot of players, but they have the same ''make 15 variations of the same mod until people don't want to play anymore'' issue doom has combined with getting one of their main mods (Saxton Hale) banned from hsoting for around 3 fucking years. They mostly play LMS so they don't help the people who left because of lack of non-permadeath servers to play

>> No.5628926

I guess I hate Buckethead then. Maybe I confused the name with something else I actually used to like

>> No.5628930

Pretty sure the "new" one is just a mishmash of old tracks.

>> No.5628935
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>brutal planet
kinda fitting

>> No.5628936

Except he straight up doubled down on it in discord saying, and I quote, "the only people who are gonna notice problems with the port are people who have played the fucking shit out of blood"

>> No.5628937

This. I fucking hate the Zandronum community because it's so inherently fucking uncreative.

>> No.5628941
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>> No.5628943

Strawpoll? See what people want to play, let it run for a week and then plan a game day.

>> No.5628947

Heh... Trespasser.

>> No.5628949
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The only ones I recognize are NOLF, Mr. Halo, Girl from Jurassic Park, Guy from Star Wars, Big Daddy, and the guy in the bottom right is maybe Caleb.

>> No.5628953

column 1 row 2 is malcolm from unreal tournament

>> No.5628954

I had just made that connection right before you posted. Whose column 1 row 1?

>> No.5628956

Is that Noah in the bottom row, third from the left?

>> No.5628957

This one is a bit harder. I recognize Kylo Ren, Malcolm, and MC. The NOLF girl too but I haven't played her games. Assuming second from the bottom left is a Big Daddy?

>> No.5628959

how do you not recognize super noahs ark 3d
or unreal tournament guy
also the first one is nitro family
and that's not caleb, he was in the last one
this guy is extra tall
and i think the bottom left is STALKER?

>> No.5628961

?, ? , ?, Kyle Katarn
?, ?, Lady from NoLF, ?
Lady from trespasser, Garett maybe, ?, Master chef
Guy from Stalker, Big Daddy, Noah from Noah's Ark and I guess guy from dusk.

>> No.5628962

oh right, column 2 row 3 is garrett

>> No.5628963

I just realized, the adventurer looking dude on the first row HAS to be the MC from Clive Barker's Undying.

>> No.5628965

I saw the slingshot and thought "where have I seen a rfps with a slingshot before" and forgot about noahs ark 3d. I just now got that the negro is supposed to be Malcom. What the fuck is nitro family?

>> No.5628967

Can't speak for other people, but I'm not into multiplayer games so I have no idea about characters from Unreal Tournament.

>> No.5628973


>> No.5628974

>What the fuck is nitro family?
What if Koreans got a hold of the Serious Engine and tried to make a racist Serious Sam with cuckolding as super secret bonus reward.

>> No.5628981


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>with cuckolding as super secret bonus reward.


>> No.5628993

>Its fun
>But every weapon uses 1 million ammo per second so 99% of it is just spamming the basic handgun
>Stops being fun
An shames.

>> No.5629001

is there any good Doom 3 re-creations in Doom/Doom 2?

>> No.5629005

I agree. It's fucking weird too because every gun basically boiled down to "it's like the doom gun from this slot but with a slight gimmick and the alt fire just uses more ammo"

>> No.5629006

If you collect all the secret bonus cards in the levels you can cheat on your wife and fuck the arms dealer

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>> No.5629008

If you find however much of some fucking collectible I don't remember, you will cheat on your wife with the girl that sells you upgrades.

>> No.5629021
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uncalled for, much?

>> No.5629026

zoomer here, just beat Inferno

I liked it more than episode 2, but fuck that teleporter puzzle map

>> No.5629031

>That floating pair of boobs for the Jurassic Park girl

>> No.5629036

>Just downloaded Eduke
I'm playing on Come Get Some, I never noticed how little ammo you had for your guns when I played this years ago. I'm having to use the pistol fairly often, I'm guessing Doom's difficulty setting rules don't really translate to Duke.

>> No.5629037

Where do you go find/setup DM servers? Is there any Discord servers or something?

I doubt anyone but ultra boomers use IRC in 2019.

>> No.5629045

Outside of the Cyberdemon episode 2 is fairly weak. Welcome to 90's FPS, where all the best shit is in episode 1 so you can be sold on the rest of the game via shareware, and the rest of the game ends up being rushed or no where near as well polished.

>> No.5629060
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You guys ever see this shit?

Sonic fan game made in Doom engine. It's actually great

>> No.5629065

It's surprisingly pretty rough with ammo sometimes (The Birth especially), and it doesn't help that monsters aren't consistent with their drops. You might end up being frugal with Freeze Ray, Shrinker and Devastator ammo, though. The game seems to drop ammo for those fairly occasionally, and explosives generally see pretty consistent usage and supplies.

>> No.5629068

What the fuck?! Can anyone name all of these?

>> No.5629071

This of course needs to be the OP image for the next thread.

>> No.5629079

Its a neat idea, but accurate jumping in the doom engine is a bitch and this thing is a platformer.

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>> No.5629089
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Resident Evil has been made in Doom engine too.


>> No.5629094

Adjust air control to your liking and use something like SpriteShadow if the mod doesn't already have it

>> No.5629095

It's been so long since I've finished a wad

>> No.5629104

Lads the top 100 wads link is dead
Anonfiles one

>> No.5629108

This, complex is trash, and addons make it worse.
My experience with this was.
>wait until 300 MB of mods download
>join server
>it's a full blown cancer, some fucking anime girls as monsters that kill everyone on sight
>health and armor go up to 500
>dozens of different weapons, most of which are reskins
>balance, what balance?
>wait for half an hour because there are like a thousand monsters on map
>everyone is playing extremely slow because legendaries one-shot you
>monsters that will run to the other side of the map to kill you in one shot
>all monsters now shoot (projectiles or plain bullets), even pinkies
>zombies now have any weapon: a quadruple shotgun can now kill you in (you guessed) one shot, BFG zombies, chainsaw zombies etc
>finally last survivor manages to exit a map
>he now has all runes, top weapons, 250 hp/armor
>get killed by legendary in one shot in first 3 minutes of play because I don't have any armor or decent weapons
>now have to watch for another half-hour how other players slowly try to kill other legendaries with grenade launcher or mines
Go for it. Set up play time then choose mods/maps.

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Why is it so hard to get into my hobby of making Doom stuff when the world is such a depressing place?

I used to like doing it but I keep seeing how much bad shit is in the world and I keep thinking about the bad stuff and it takes me away from my hobby.

>> No.5629115

Holy fuck. Look how nice that player character looks. The animation and all.

Why the fuck has someone not did this with Doom? Where you play through all of doom levels with a Resi 4 style camera? That would be great

>> No.5629118

There are no bad things, perception is reality, if you chose not to think about things then they don't exist

>> No.5629123

It's okay, Brendan. You don't have to think about Hollywood if you don't want to. Just start mapping for Doom instead. I'm sure you have some money tucked aw-
Oh, never mind.

>> No.5629128
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how often do you exercise?

when I picked up running I came back home too tired to get mad at dumb shit like politics and getting a hot shower was a great way to get my head out of the gutter

I should go back to that and soon

>> No.5629132
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Stay the fuck away from twitter and tumblr and news blogs you dummy.

Instead, play mods and maps for good video games to get inspiration. Follow development of mods and maps to get a sense of positive things happening. And force yourself to get 8 hours of sleep at night.

>> No.5629137

Twitter always depends on who you follow. I only follow hentai artists and meme accounts, so all I get are laughs and boners.

>> No.5629139
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Is it underneath a pastebin? To be honest a lot of the loose pastebins in the OP do need to be cleaned up or replaced, most of that shit is old and mostly out of date.

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Lads, what's the best software for making Doom maps on Linux? Using MX Linux, specifically.

>> No.5629145

Brendan's alimony payments were legally stopped recently, the internet has a small celebration.

>> No.5629147

They have. It's called DooM: the mercenaries. It's by therm same guy too.

>> No.5629150

Yeah under the "our wads" pastebin

Guess I could just look up top 100 wads but

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What do you think Doomguy would do after he killed all the demons? Like 100% killed every last demon, nothing left and no way for more to appear.

>> No.5629154

Take a nap.

>> No.5629156
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Yeah well if you've got self control you can use it, but for some people it might be best to avoid.

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open his own version of that japanese bunny island

>> No.5629160

There are literal studies demonstrating that twitter makes you stupider. It's a worthless site for worthless content and worthless people.

>> No.5629162

How easy would it be to make a mod that blurs the screen that isn't in the 4:3 aspect ratio. I kind of want to make a motion sickness mod. You'd still get the full 16:9 experience, but the motion sickness from turning the camera would be highly reduced.

>> No.5629167

That's exactly what my experience with Complex is, too. It feels like it MIGHT be a little bit fun if it was co-op with infinite respawns and the entire server just threw themselves at the bullshit, but that's not how people play it because it's survival.

>> No.5629172

I want to hold that rabbit.

>> No.5629173

If he doesn't find another equivalent or another malicious entity on the scale of hell, I'd imagine he would just settle down somewhere quiet and get a rabbit.

>> No.5629174

Eh, the physics in it combined with the engine gives me some kind of motion sickness. From what I've looked apparently the version they're working on now is going to completely retool the engine so maybe that will solve my issues.
The kart racer mod is fantastic though.

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>> No.5629180

what mods are you playing?

>> No.5629181

I can attest to it personally. Watching friends go from intellectuals to drama whores who clash together shitty memes to get attention and quick RTs from the meme generation is fucking depressing. The state of the world and its future at the hands of social media has me incredibly worried. I thought with all this interconnectivity we would have become a lot smarter and more capable, but all it's done is make us way more alienated, angry, and above all else, cultlike. You can see it on this fucking website.

>> No.5629182

What is the best Duke Nukem 3D level and why is it Derelict?

>> No.5629186

Does this also give you motion sickness? I think it's the aspect ratio.


>> No.5629190

I'm not so sure those people had any wits to begin with, anon.

>> No.5629193


>> No.5629194

Did you like Duke Nukem Forever 2013?

>> No.5629197
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I want Cyriak to make another mapset.

>> No.5629203

It's more and more geared up to social engineer people into being stuck on it all the time, getting into petty fights over nothing and making a priority to showing shit that'll piss them off, all in the name of ad revenue.

In some ways it's kind of an extension of what smartphones have done to people, there's a lot of data to show that smartphones have wrecked people's memory spans, between having Facebook to hand to remember every detail about somebody for them and being able to photo/record everything has resulted in them delegating remembering stuff to a device.

Kinda explains the 85% of people who can't go five minutes without checking them.

>> No.5629205

It was an alright game.

Was there a way to play the unreleased 2001 version? I seem to remember seeing it float around a while back.

>> No.5629212

Flip of a coin on whether to just dosbox it or use WinRottGL. The latter is kind of a trash port, actually.

The game is real fun though.
Also, it might actually be nice to play while naked.

>> No.5629215

Not even slightly, and I still hold a bitter grudge towards Gearbox (and in extension 3DRealms for their own mistakes) over it.

>> No.5629216

Because it's a tense dungeon crawl set on a semi-realistic location, with lots of good fighting and exploration.

It's the kind of map that Duke Nukem 3D did best.

>> No.5629218

Not that guy but getting proper wide-screen in dosbox is impossible right

>> No.5629223
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Waste disposal technician.

>> No.5629225

The tall guy with hat and rifle has to be Marshal from Outlaws.

>> No.5629232

Ok very stupid question but I have been really interested in trying Doom multiplayer. Thing is I'm super paranoid about downloading files through clients like Zandronum and every server requires you to. Is it possible to get anything malicious through it?

>> No.5629236

So you know it's paranoia. Turn it off and play Doom.

>> No.5629245

no, any file uploaded through allfearthesentinel gets checked for that shit, and they ban people from uploading it

>> No.5629248

Hmm... I meant with a Doomguy sprite character not resi evil.

But yeah this looks cool as fuck either way I'll definitely be giving this a play.

>> No.5629253

I'm getting some ocassional crashes in GZDoom 4.1.2 with a couple of mods. Not always, just once every couple of days

The crash log reports:
*** Fatal Error ***
Address not mapped to object (signal 11)
Address: 0x1fd0

Does anyone know what this means?

>> No.5629262

I got something similar a couple years ago every time I saved with a previous edition of GZDoom. Its just Graf breaking shit with the new version as always. The latest version complete with fix will be out soon anyway because it always is, fucker can't stop fiddling with it.

>> No.5629264
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question about arch-viles
i sometimes see them fighting other demons but when the arch-vile attacks, he hits me instead and i dont have the fire covering my screen when that happens
whats the deal with that?

>> No.5629268

Wouldn't that just annihilate the marshmellow?

>> No.5629272

i mean he could just break the arch-viles's line of sight with the marshmellow

>> No.5629273
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well if the pro strats taught me something is that archies cant blast past a 2x2 unit wide wall so maybe the stick is fucking up his aim

>> No.5629281

If something hits an archvile, it will aggro at the new target immediately. The switch can happen even mid-attack and does not interrupt it.

>> No.5629282

This, Going Down is one of my favorite mapsets.

>> No.5629283
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What's the deal with this archvile, am I right?
He's grilling some baron and then BOOM, I'm the one who blows up! Seems a little unfair, don't you think?

>> No.5629295 [DELETED] 

Why you doomfags are so insecure? Why you make fallacies?

>> No.5629303

Enjoy your brain surgery. That tumor needs to go.

>> No.5629306

surprised tf2 isn't represented here

>> No.5629310

I actually like Half-Life though. Its one of my favourite PC games of all time up there with Doom. The problem lies with one faggot who has permenant anal damage over it being popular for some reason.

>> No.5629317

Probably because it's nine characters, not just one.

>> No.5629318

you do know it's him don't you?

>> No.5629324

What is this lego autism

>> No.5629334

Heavy is pretty much the mascot at this point.

>> No.5629337

I like this sort of kitbash photoshop art. If someone did something like that and painted over it nicely you could get some really great results.

>> No.5629340
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Lego autism you say?

>> No.5629345

it has been released like 20 years ago, yes i saw it already

>> No.5629357

any of them could serve as a figurehead

>> No.5629358

I doubt you could ever get any significant chunk to agree with you on that.

>> No.5629361


>> No.5629362

It was more that he was featured the most in all the promotional material around release and was the first featured video valve made.

>> No.5629364

He was the most featured when it comes to promo material and even collectible figures.

>> No.5629371

First = / = Most

>> No.5629375

I dont want to play and then cry when I remember its dead

>> No.5629379
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Is it considered cheating to play with a mouse? I just finished DOOM 1 and DOOM 2 with keyboard on UV but Nightmare seems very hard. Then again what's the point of playing Nightmare if you cheat with a mouse.

>> No.5629387

Playing with a mouse isnt cheating, it's even recommended in the original manual.
Vertical mouse-aim though is considered to make the game easier and could easily be viewed as cheating.

>> No.5629389

Is it cheating to play Doom and Doom 2 with autorun on?

>> No.5629390

doom came with mouse support
just use the fucking thing

>> No.5629395
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Breed rabbits

>> No.5629396

How do I become a cool dude like Pordontae

>> No.5629407

Oh shit holy kek

>> No.5629409

Having a bit of a problem trying to run doom_complete.pk3 on GZDoom v4.1.2. Every time I try to, I keep getting “Script error, "doom_complete.pk3:cvarinfo.txt" line 1: cvar ,ws_sky_compat' already exists” as an error. Any suggestions?

>> No.5629412

hey, I want to learn doom modding
is there a chaos garden like mod where doomguy raise cacodemons?

>> No.5629417

No. It's no different than leaving a weight on the shift key.

>> No.5629419
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I only play stuff pistol start, so I dunno if it's better than continuous. I was getting buttfucked so hard for ammo on M5 that I actually ended up emailing John Romero asking if it was balanced for pistol start. He told me to git gud. I ended up beating the rest of the wad pistol starting, so I guess he was right.

>> No.5629430

He did Twitch streams where he was testing pistol starts on the toughest levels. He failed plenty of times but I'm sure he did eventually get through everything that way.

>> No.5629432

It’s perfect. Thank you Anon.

>> No.5629434

I don't know what a chaos garden is, but a radius monster raise that turns them friendly is perfectly possible. You should start with making a basic gun however.

>> No.5629441

That's not how doom guy looks like

>> No.5629445

Pet The Caco?

>> No.5629447

Yeah. Really fucked up with that model switch.

>> No.5629448


>> No.5629449


Doomguy probably would go full Bolshevik and do a one-man-Revolution to overthrow big corporations.

>> No.5629450
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Why yes, I do always pistol start. How could you tell?

>> No.5629451

I can recognize Kyle Katarn, Cate Archer (NOLF, I have to play both games), Master Chief, Malcom from UT, Tresspasser girl, Noah, Big Daddy, most probably those are Strelok and Garret. And I do remember the ones at the top left, but I can't remember the game's name. I think they were a couple of rednecks and it shooter was quite ridiculous. never played the game tho

>> No.5629454

>Nitro Family, Undying, Dishonored?, Dark Forces
>Unreal Tournament, ?, NOLF, ?
>Trespasser, Thief, ?, Halo
>Stalker maybe? Is that supposed to be a vodka bottle?, Bioshock 2, Super Noah's Ark, Outlaws?

>> No.5629457

This list should be completed

>> No.5629459

Needs more abs

>> No.5629475

I loved the one made in the Build engine

>> No.5629502

As said, unless he's stunned by an attack to interrupt him, an attack from another source can make him switch targets on the spot, and thus an attack he started on someone else can be finished on another target.

He's quick to anger.

>> No.5629531
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Doom originally supports using the mouse for fast and precise horizontal turning, you can't look up or down, but the added freedom and mobility of just mouseturning is both original and worthwhile.
Romero played with keyboard and mouseturning, and you can see that distinct movement in his demos playing in attract mode.

The game incorporated vertical auto-aiming to compensate for the lack of true 3D aiming, and thus the original levels are balanced for that. A few instances will let you break an original level over your knees if you have the ability to freely aim up and down, but for most of the levels, turning off the auto-aim and using freelook (through a sourceport, obviously), doesn't add up to TOO much of an advantage, but it's still noticeable and it wouldn't be "kosher".

If you've already beat Doom as is, do as you feel like. I always found the Quake/Half-Life/Duke style of freelook without auto-aim very pleasant, and these days I just prefer that as a matter of comfort, to the point that I sometimes outright prefer a twinstick gamepad for classic horizontally locked Doom.

>> No.5629536

could the last one be the guy from Darkwatch?

>> No.5629538

>2 row, 2 column
Is that my boy Ghat from Zeno Clash?

>> No.5629540

What the is that Baron doing?

>> No.5629547

Pretty solid. The level design is very linear & setpiece-focused. I'm too young to have nostalgia for the 2001 DNF trailer so it didn't impress me much seeing the locations recreated.

>> No.5629560

>wait this isn't Doom! this is anal sex!

>> No.5629569

can I upload some sutff to the mega? because I want to add daikatana

>> No.5629572

Why do my saves sometimes stop working in GZDoom? Like earlier I played Sigil, went to play another wad, came back and my Sigil save won't start.

I didn't save over it or anything. This has happened to me before too an it's mad annoying.

>> No.5629574

>I'm gonna help you aim and massage your back so that we can cuddle on the gore pile later

>> No.5629581

I have a small modding question
I'm playing Hideous Destructor, but I want the extra sounds added by Sound Caulking PC (such as the creepy Lost Soul wails). I tried loading caulkpc.pk3 last, but it still won't affect the sounds - it's as if Hideous Destructor is using different tags for them or something?

Is there any easy way to go about making them compatible, or would I have to go into HD itself and replace OGGs one by one?

>> No.5629583

>Manually fix WoC's ammo issues
>Now noticing armor doesn't work at all, you die in 2 shotgun hits with every armor 'slot' filled because it never applies the armor
What the fuck happened to this mod everything is broken

>> No.5629585

>it's as if Hideous Destructor is using different tags for them or something?
It probably is. Check the SNDINFO in HD's pk3. You may have to make your own SNDINFO to overwrite HD's and load it fter in tandem with Sound Caulking.

>> No.5629586

It’s the Baron from Hearts of Demons.

>> No.5629593

Now the dust has settled, pick your 10 best UDoom maps from E1 to E5.



>> No.5629604
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>[screams externally]

>> No.5629621

Gotcha, that makes sense. I'll see if I can do it

Another question - I use the Footsteps mod, but I'd very much like to expand it to also include enemies, at least humanoids, in HD. Would this be just a matter of using a similar technique for the other monster classes instead of just the player? Or would it be more involved than that?

>> No.5629627

No idea how that mod works, but it would probably be more complex than just adding sounds to the playerpawn because of how much more complicated the enemies are.

>> No.5629628

Ah alright, that's a shame. Anyway, thanks for the answers!

>> No.5629630
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Finally someone got it.
Surprised that no one noticed Willford Rockwell and Grayson Hunt from Bulletstorm so far but then again, that Peacemaker carbine was a bitch to translate into bricks and the bandage piece may look a bit too awkward as leash-glove.

>> No.5629635
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>> No.5629647

Haha kek

>> No.5629652

Same. Don’t know what to do about that though.

>> No.5629654

The first 3 levels were very easy to breeze through in uv for me. Couldn't find every secret on e5m3 though.

>> No.5629670
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What do you think of The Wayfarer for Heretic and its standalone weapons version?

>> No.5629673
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I thought everybody who played on UV did that.
What's the point of starting a map with weapons and powerups you got from the previous map? It just ruins the experience.

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G-Go easy on me guys.

>> No.5629694

>those muscles

>> No.5629698

I imagine their running animation is just as goofy on PC

>> No.5629701

God Quake 2 is boring.

>> No.5629704

It’s still nowhere close to Rob Liefeld tumor muscles.

>> No.5629727

doomguy is on roids
and apparently so is the baron

>> No.5629728
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>> No.5629729

>half life doesnt have secre-
min 30:12 to 30:40

>> No.5629730

Chubzdoomer weighs in


>> No.5629750

The most fun I've had with Heretic in a long, long, long time.
People who whine about "slaughtershit" can fuck right off.

>> No.5629756

Is this the guy they based the Skulltag skin off of?

>> No.5629760

has made mapping tutorials since doombuilder 2 was considered new

>> No.5629765

What's the verdict on Doom 64: Retribution?

>> No.5629767

>abloo bloo its too difficult
>it sucks REEEEE
what a fag

>> No.5629770

Wtf is thst "eve eternity" wad he keeps mentioning? Am I hearing it wrong

>> No.5629771

don't the bosses and arachnos have walking sounds already?

>> No.5629773

Yes, but if the custom monster has multiple walking cycles or does stuff during its walk frames it might be difficult for someone who isn't knowledgeable about modding to add the footstep sounds without breaking shit.

>> No.5629780

>the guy in the bottom right is maybe Caleb
I think it's the guy from Dusk.

>> No.5629781

Eviternity, I presume.

>> No.5629782
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Wrong Forever, Anon.

>> No.5629786

How come only like two or three Youtubers haven't fucking sucked at Sigil?

Why is being awful at Doom so tied to making content of them playing it?

>> No.5629790

Its not as faithful to the original as it could be, but to be fair, the creator admits that it’s no supposed to be entirely faithful to the original, and recommends Doom 64 EX if you want authenticity.

>> No.5629803

maybe they focus on other things or were spoiled by certain kinds of wads or games
decino/marphyblack videos on sigil when?
has anyone tried making the most faithfull d64 port on gzdoom/zandronum?

>> No.5629806

Casual videos for casual players/viewers. Non-commentary runs tend to be better buuuut of course, those won't have an impact anywhere.

>> No.5629808

There is GZDoom64. Haven’t played it yet though.

>> No.5629829

what's your fucking problem

>> No.5629857

>He fucking hops over the grenade at 0:15


>> No.5629859

>not knowing what chao garden is
it's a sonic adventure 2 minigame

>> No.5629862

Whats the elf gets pissed of doom

>> No.5629864

There's Mr. Friendly where you fly around and do little quests for demons who have random lines. It's pretty cute. As for actually making something like that, good fucking luck, something like t hat is pretty damn difficult to make.

>> No.5629870

I'd love a demon crossing/harvest phobos type game

>> No.5629879

No Rest for the Living is pretty good. Went in blind expecting a full megawad and was sad when it ended so soon.

>> No.5629885

I'll check it
I'll plan to jump directly to zscript, I'm a c++ programmer

>> No.5629892


>> No.5629893

Don't tell him

>> No.5629896

Good choice. Plenty of zscript mods out there for you to study at this point.

>> No.5629897

I'm bad at spriting though

>> No.5629901

It's ok, most mod developers are.

>> No.5629903

ZS is more like C# with a bunch of very weird changes. Don't take the terminology too seriously or you might have an autism aneurysm.

>> No.5629904

just finished sigil on HMP.

Nice maps. I was expecting it to be a lot more boring. Turns out to be pretty good.

>> No.5629905

Luckily, the doom community has absolute shit tons of sprites you can usually use as long as you credit the creator

>> No.5629906

let me study it, I never played any of them

>> No.5629912

Pretty sure the teleporting keycard on one of the final maps is bugged and teleports behind a locked door. Other than that its fine.

>> No.5629931
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>just finished sigil on HMP.

>> No.5629935

All original maps ported directly from Doom 64 with accurate texturing in UDMF format
Remade Doom 64 MAP33 titlemap to be used as the actual TITLEMAP here
Custom intermission text screens recreating the originals with text lines that fade instead of type on
New introduction text screen which tells the story so far from the game manual (can be skipped at any time to get right into the game)
Fixing obvious bugs and mismatched or unaligned textures present on the original levels
Only minor fixes made to maps (small things that improve the original maps visually or otherwise, but the maps will not deviate from the originals)
Map order is matched to Doom 64's original order exactly
Bonus "fun" maps are accessible from a hub style selection map
Reward for completing Hectic is a Megasphere (what you would get from the death traps) and some early cells
Titlemap has been made into a playable level also accessible from the fun map hub
Testing map included where you can see every monster, weapon, item, and prop and pit monsters against each other in a 12v12 arena
"Fake sky-hack 3D geometry" recreated by using actual 3D floors
Doom 64 style "split doors" recreated using scripts and sound sequences
MAP20 Breakdown's "sliding door" effect converted to Polyobjects
Scrolling cloud skies made using hires cloud textures, skyboxes and translucent 3D floors
All original cloud skies match up to the color and map slot they belong in from the original game
Colored sector lighting as close to Doom 64 as possible in GZDoom, will be improved in the future!
Freshly written scripts for every map, which accurately recreate original game events and puzzles
Toggle option to choose between a fully revamped arsenal with smoother firing animations from Cage and Almonds or the original animations
Toggle option to make bullet and shell casings drop from either animation set
Original push-back and recoil (purely visual) effects added to most weapons

>> No.5629938

Unmaker has been recreated to function identical to the original and uses cells for ammo
Three Demon Keys and upgrades to the Unmaker function as in Doom 64
Doom 64 HUD has been remade and incorporated replacing the normal Status Bar
G/ZDoom's alternative HUD is left unchanged, and thus still available for use if you prefer the alt hud
You can see which Demon Keys you have by checking the Automap
Player viewheight and size adjusted to match with Doom 64's larger map and sprite scale
Player speed and gravity adjusted to match Doom 64's properties
All Doom 64 monsters are remade and adjusted to match Doom 64's original behavior
All items, powerups, pickups, keys, weapons, ammo, and props are recreated
No additional enemies, gore effects or crazy map effects are added
Simple usage of dynamic lights to enhance atmosphere, but don't worry they aren't overbearing
>Planned for the future:
Proper Doom 64 lighting for every map (probably a version 2 update later on) once the lighting system is perfected and all Doom 64 effects are possible
Custom brightmaps for many glowing surfaces and areas of sprites that make sense (some will already be included at first release)
All new 9-level episode featuring the cut weapon and maps from alpha and beta screenshots designed to bridge the gap between Doom 64 and DOOM 2016, the "Retribution" episode
Bring over all "forgotten" levels, including the Absolution TC exclusive maps, the Outcast levels, and more as time passes

>> No.5629940

Man, Duke is a lot more dull and generic than I remember it being.

>> No.5629941
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I tried making a modified version of Caulking so that the SND includes both HD stuff + the skull sound I want, at the top of the file.

However, it still isn't working when loaded after Hideous Destructor. What am I doing wrong? isn't "skull" the generic tag for Lost Souls?

>> No.5629948

No man, you're supposed to find out what sounds he's using in his custom monster then make a new SNDINFO to overwrite those entries with your sounds. It's highly unlikely he's using the default sounds.

>> No.5629951

so is john romero poor or not
apparently the gas station pics are from him collecting an entire gas station for some reason but he also sold his original doom disks

>> No.5629952

Yeah, after the first episode everything is horribly rushed and bad.

>> No.5629960

But there isn't any reference to Lost Souls in the HD SNDINFO, that's why I'm confused. Unless the zscript for lostsouls.txt takes care of that?

>> No.5629971

The only references to sounds in here are the skull/melee sound. The active sound in particular is deliberately muted. Your patch should work for the pain and death sounds, but it needs to be loaded after HD. If you want the active sound you'll have to edit your HD pk3 and add it back to the enemy.

>> No.5629975

>The active sound in particular is deliberately muted.
Ah. That explains it
Well, thanks anon, sorry for the dumb dumbs.

>> No.5629979

No problem, HD is a bitch to dig through especially for new modders. I hope it works once you fix it.

>> No.5629987

Sigil's UV sure gives the player very little ammo... Which is fun! I love having to carefully manage my ammunition and having a good excuse to use the chainsaw.

More mapsets should have HMP as the "standard" difficulty and UV to rely on thinking things more carefully without raising the enemy count too much, maybe having to rely on infighting and avoiding some encounters until the players get better equipment.

>> No.5629998

Man, if there's one thing that can be said about Sigil, it's fucking DRIPPING with 90s hell atmosphere. If I'd played this when I was younger, it would have scared the shit out of me. I think it's awesome, honestly.

>> No.5630000

hmp is normal mode, poop head

>> No.5630019

Ask him, not us. He responds to emails.

>> No.5630021

I'm too shy to email my idol

>> No.5630027
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I sure wish HD Webm Anon would post some new stuff.

>> No.5630030
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at it with TEXTURES again as a zscript break. how does this look as a key replacement?

(the base floppy disk is a gzdoom.pk3 internal graphic)

>> No.5630032

He's just another person, anon.

>> No.5630050

sent him a dick pick instead

>> No.5630054

that's nothing, ask about Blackroom instead

>> No.5630058

but the dick pick had a cacodemon draw over my glans

>> No.5630063

don't lie anon
it was a shotgun shell pickup sprite and it covered the whole thing, with 3 times the cover to spare

>> No.5630067

t. romero

>> No.5630068
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It's funny how clearly different Romero thinks about difficulty compared to guys like Gman, Icarus, and people in general who don't like Sigil. When Romero plays something like E4M2 on Devs Play or Sigil on stream, he just laughs when something ridiculous happens and rolls with it even when it kills him. But when others have that happen, they gets pissed and call it "bullshit" or "trolling" or something else that implies that there's something wrong with the game because it didn't fit their expectation of what Doom is supposed to be.

I feel like there's a particular pride for a good amount of video game players where they just expect that they're good at video games and that they should be able to beat stuff with only a little sweat. So when there's something that's truly tough, especially in an unexpected way, they'll end up blaming the game for "bad design" rather than just having the humility to believe that something can be intentionally designed well but in a way that they don't personally enjoy. It's psychologically a lot easier for someone to turn difficulty up and then shift blame than just turn it down.

pic related, interview with Dario Casali on Plutonia

>> No.5630070

I'm writing like a retard

>> No.5630074

i wonder if the idea for the face wall texture in doom comes from the movie "society"
>well, doomguy, i'm a butthead

>> No.5630075

romero sempai streams? what does he think of alliens first map having an instant fucking cyberdemon

>> No.5630079

Cute, but I wonder if it will read from a distance as well as the normal big yellow key. Maybe a yellow floppy would be more clear.

>> No.5630080

He streamed Sigil while it was still being made to show off his work in progress. I don't think he streams regularly.

>> No.5630081

Whats the best source port for Blood and Duke?

>> No.5630085

blood cm and zbloody hell

>> No.5630086

Hm yeah I can try that. It'll probably look better since it'll be fullbright come to think of it.

Skull keys will be CD's instead by the way. With a colored jewel case or something

>> No.5630102


>> No.5630110

Sigil Buckethead midis. Whipped up for those who want to listen Buckethead but don't like mp3s.

>> No.5630115

You're playing with a controller?
Also, damn. I have to learn how to modify Quake 2 and add those cut movements to the enemies (and maybe speed them up)

>> No.5630118

Forgot to name the tracks. OH WELL

>> No.5630120

what the fuck, someone actually ported RE Survivor to doom

>> No.5630126

This entire "UV is canon Doom mode" need to die. It's clear it is not about enjoying hard mode but complacent about game what is not as hard as it was intended because change of way people play (keyboard and mouse with stuff like strafing being standard) and enjoy beating so called hard mode.

>> No.5630129

Never underestimate Doom.

>> No.5630131

I'm actually impressed that someone decided to port that one since nobody ever talks about it. Can't wait to see a RE1 or REmake mansion or RE2+RE3 map interconnected maybe Outbreak or Dead Aim

>> No.5630138


>> No.5630140

i wanna see someone remake the resident evil 1 mansion and mgs' shadow moses in doom

>> No.5630146

Stand perfectly still, forever, waiting for more to appear. (just in case)

>> No.5630150

i wanna see more lewd porn mods in doom
canon hedon where you just fuck eveyrone with your 12 foot dik when

>> No.5630151

can vanilla doom skies be larger than 256x128?
Like can I just add in some more patches?

>> No.5630153

>not NBlood

>> No.5630159

There are a few Metal Gear mods, but they’re of Metal Gear 1 and 2, with Outer Heaven.

>> No.5630162

>not bloodgdx

>> No.5630172

No, NBlood is actually better.

>> No.5630186

who ever said that half life doesn't have secrets?

>> No.5630190

icarus and gman are clowns who think they speak for people despite being terrible at games. Watching gman's review when he has filters and free look on is evidence to that. I have no idea how you complain about ammo problems when you play continuous.

>> No.5630198
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maybe I could try adding these on top of Term's MIDI mod

>> No.5630205

I think with Sigil we got the proper second episode after KDITD. 2 years ago we got the final pieces of KDITD, including ending, now we have a real sequel.

Aside from E2M2 and E4M6, episode 2-4 are all fucked up shit.

>> No.5630214

Make videos being informative of Doom's gameplay, but short and with an odd sense of humor attached.
Also make some cool maps occasionally.

Most of Doom's behavior and quirks are pretty much laid out in the open though, so unless you can think of some subject which isn't described in detail in a popular video or something, your other recourse would be mapping.

I'm gonna be blunt; Sigil is good, but it's not as good as Shores Of Hell.

>> No.5630220

Is it more gameplay-accurate than gdx now?

>> No.5630221

Extremely subjective.

Presumably some invasive pest from rpgcodex.

>> No.5630226

There is nothing wrong with playing with freelook (as long as you have proper experience with vanilla gameplay).
I agree with the rest of your post.

>> No.5630230

There's a dozen crude attempts.
One of the better ones is a partial remake of the RE mansion in Alfonzone.

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>likes sigil
>doesn't like E4M2

>> No.5630240

Width can be up to 1024. Height im pretty sure is limited to 128 in vanilla. In PrBoom+ they can be bigger.

>> No.5630241

If you do, please upload the result!

>> No.5630243
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I recently played through NRFTL and SIGIL and enjoyed them. Haven't touched my other wads in years, only really came back to playing DOOM for SIGIL. Added some that I haven't played at all yet from recommendations in older threads as well.

If you had to play one wad from this list tonight, which would you pick anons?

>> No.5630248

If I ever find myself angered by dying, usually I tend to rationalize it as my own failure and my rage is aimed at myself.
I should have done better, maybe I cornered myself in a stupid way, or I had a mean ambush sprung on me and I hesitated instead of acting.

I seldom feel like I direct my anger towards a level, in fact the last time I did that was because the levels were nowhere near as challenging as they were claimed to be, and it felt like I was being constantly blueballed.
I was upset because I was promised difficulty but then it was way too easy, so I guess it tested my patience in a completely different direction.
I don't usually tend to seek the greatest challenge either, yet I really like what a ballbuster Thy Flesh Consumed is for the first few maps, maybe I just like the exact way it bites me in the heels.

>> No.5630251

Not bad but you just cant beat Doom 64 Master Edition. The Retribution author even admitted that. Both are good

>> No.5630254

Maybe I'm stupid, but why do you have a separate folder for each wad? Sure, some older ones come in multiple wads or variants, but still.

>> No.5630258

>have sigil.wad
>trying to play sigil on zandronum
>doomseeker confirms I do in fact have sigil.wad and its green
>cant join sigil game because it says I don't have sigil.wad

>> No.5630260

I use different settings, different source ports, different addon mods, different soundfonts, etc. for different wads.
I realize I could just use a launcher like ZDL or Rocket Launcher 2 but hard drive space isn't really an issue for me right now so I kind of like having everything contained in its own little folder.

>> No.5630262

Use the Shotguns on those guys. Feels better than that wonky grenade launcher too

>> No.5630264


>> No.5630269

Cool. Good to know.

>> No.5630270

Do you have the 1.1 version?

>> No.5630271
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Not him, but I do the same thing. It's nice to know exactly where everything is when I'm jumping between source ports and launchers.

>> No.5630275

64 EX

>> No.5630279

Keep trying strogg bro, you'll get him someday.

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Any help frens?

>> No.5630282
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>TFW still waiting for Shadow Warrior's complete source code to be found and released publicly

>> No.5630294

I have this sort of a setup with ZDL and drag+drop stuff in.

Also have somewhere in the region of eighty different builds of source ports, divided by type and then version number, because testing my shit across different ports is useful and it keeps mods working instead of getting fucked by Graf.

>> No.5630303 [DELETED] 

Readmes, probably.

>> No.5630305

Oh my I didn't know there was a new version. Thanks

>> No.5630314

Complex Doom and all the bastardized versions of Zombie Hoard (the Bagel one is just a cancerous union of retardation and autism) killed it for me. Just got bored. I just want to go back to the days of Skulltag and ZDaemon, with a good variety of vanilla coop and DM, and the occasional fun stuff like Hide and Seek. It's a shame it sounds like things haven't changed in the year+ ago I stopped playing.

>> No.5630317
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I have mine like this. It was a clusterfuck, because I only used GZDoom drag n drop. But when I felt a chore to select 5 files to drag onto GZDoom and started to use Zandronum, it was no longer viable. Saving presets is much more confortable.

>> No.5630323


>> No.5630332

I heard Eureka's pretty good, try that.

>> No.5630342

whats everyones thoughts on the Quake 2 expansions?

Im only on the first level of the first one and ive already died more than the last levels of the base game. It feels like the enemies are WAY more aggressive

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oh you sneaky bastard

jokes on you I'm adding them anyways

>> No.5630352

Fucking hell, this keeps happening

*** Fatal Error ***
Address not mapped to object (signal 11)

Could anyone enlighten me on what it means or how to troubleshoot it? GZDoom 4.1.2. Playing Hideous Destructor but it has happened at other occasions as well I think.

>> No.5630363

Always use the lowest compatible version of GZDoom to avoid Grafcode fuckups.

>> No.5630374

fuck demons

>> No.5630379
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Hey, it's one of his tracks. Can't help it!
Had a hard time scraping all of those together. Not that many good bucket midis out there.

>> No.5630385

this picture is amazing

>> No.5630390

They honestly arent very good. I think Quake 2 is a good game but the expansions drag on and on, the level design starts to get confusing really quick too

>> No.5630396

Why is the beginning of Plutonia MAP12 so lame? There's not enough shotgun ammo in the starting area to take out everything that comes out the front door, and trying to make monsters infight can take like five minutes because of all the large height sector differences. I don't want to run in there because there are hitscanners in literally every direction inside that room, but trying to take it slow is agonizing.

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Thanks. Will give it a go tonight

>> No.5630413

Any /vr/ server?

>> No.5630418

You want co-op or deathmatch?

Make something good for us, frogposter-kun

>> No.5630428
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To breed with them? Maybe. I mean, they know how to build neat stuff.

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This guy doesn't fuck around.

>> No.5630448

If co-op, no infinite respawns.

>> No.5630450
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>> No.5630469

I was thinking of Sigil, since it's the hot new shit.

>> No.5630472
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Do you think Joel is crazy enough to do another Doom contest next year

>> No.5630473
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>Playing "Hatomo Battles the Yomi Demons" for the first time
>Hideous Destructor is on
>Look for the secret in map 1
>It's a backpack
>It has this in it

Hot damn. I guess I win?

>> No.5630478
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>In backpack:

>> No.5630480

Almost takes a year just to review it all.

>> No.5630482

I'm basically immortal now, right?

>> No.5630491
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I wonder if the coders put in some sort of fuck you measure in case you chug a lot of them in quick succession

>> No.5630492

Only one way to find out. Bottoms up.

>> No.5630497
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Nope. I just chugged all 8 of them back to back and I'm fine.

Should you be saving them for when you get injured or should you drink them asap when you see them?

>> No.5630507

gdx now has a fov slider, it automatically position itself over the rest included that nightdive abomination

>> No.5630514

You know he is.
Better draw more Joelguy just to make sure.

>> No.5630516

How to get sigil_shreds.wad?

>> No.5630519

Mega link in OP

>> No.5630527

timestamp is relevant

>> No.5630528

that scene terrified me as a kid

>> No.5630531


>> No.5630536
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>Make something good for us, frogposter-kun

I'll try. Sometimes I get a little autistic with the dynamic lights and lighting detail in general, but I suppose that's good for the people who use PBR textures. It's fun. Vids related.
This one was made in like 100 to 120 min.:

>> No.5630538

Am I the only one thinks Romero's modern maps are shit and don't deserve cacowards?

>> No.5630540

right in the feels

>> No.5630542

I dunno about deserving cacowards, but I don't think they're shit.
Although some of the modern maps are too modern for me and I also don't know about them deserving cacowards.
"deserving" anything is a subjective thing, and it's ultimately up to the award overseers to determine.

>> No.5630543

They arent shit but its pretty obvious he only got a cacoward due to his fame / importance to Doom.

>> No.5630548

I just think they're average, and get rated higher just because it's Romero.

>> No.5630549

Yeah, that I don't doubt. But he did make doom, in part, and it's not like the cacowards were a thing in 1993, so... Don't really have a problem with that.
If he wins another it'd be strange. Although I'm sure there's a chance.

>> No.5630553

Blue potions, soulspheres, and megaspheres all provide a supply of supernatural healing commonly referred to as blues. Rather than increasing your HP over the normal maximum as in vanilla, blues provide a variety of more subtle benefits. Your medical needs are mostly automated, as open wounds will be sealed up and treated wounds will be cured slowly over time. If you've suffered rare aggravated damage (caused by such things as using second flesh with temporarily bandaged wounds, coming down from berserk, or balefire attacks from hell knights and barons), blues are the only way to cure it and recover your full maximum HP. Your encumbrance tolerance is increased by about 25%, scaling down with lower amounts of blue (one potion gets you most of the way to the maximum bonus). Random effects such as converting enemies to allies or a full HP refill also fire off occasionally. Blues are consumed really slowly and there's no upper limit whatsoever. Once you've gotten one soulsphere you'll be good to go for a long time, and you'll almost certainly find more before you get anywhere close to running out. The potions are worth about 1/7th of a soulsphere. Megaspheres provide the same amount of blues as a soulsphere, but also gives a layer of spiritual armor on top of that.

The only reason you might not want to consume all blues you find immediately would be if you wanted to use the blursphere. Its evil magic doesn't get along well with blues and you'll find yourself caught in very literal crossfire if you try to use them together.

>> No.5630569

Any recommended companion wad with Eviternity?

>> No.5630578

I found like 4 summoning talismans in one during one of my many romps through Diabolous Ex. They make the rooftop fight so, so much easier when you spam them all up there.

>> No.5630583

What sort of mods are you looking for? Weapons, demon replacers, or something else?

>> No.5630585

No, but your opinion is bad

>> No.5630586


>> No.5630590

I was just curious if anything is recommended generally, usually I only run chaulking and smoothdoom, brutal is too much for me

>> No.5630602

I see. Eviternity is fairly self contained. It modifies and adds a lot of stuff, including the vanilla pistol. I'd be worried about stuff conflicting with it. Nash Gore (new or old) is always nice, though. Other than that, I didn't really feel it needed anything. Once I beat it, I'd like to do it again with PSX music.

>> No.5630608

What is chaulking?

>> No.5630625

>The only reason you might not want to consume all blues you find immediately would be if you wanted to use the blursphere. Its evil magic doesn't get along well with blues and you'll find yourself caught in very literal crossfire if you try to use them together.
Oh shit, I see. So if you use the blursphere it cancels out any blue energy you've acquired? So that's why I was bursting into flames sometimes when I activated the blur, and other times not...I was never understanding what triggered it

Are blurspheres worth sacrificing all of that extra healing power? I would guess no

>> No.5630628
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Alrighty boys let's play.

Server Name: /vr/ - Sigil co-op
Password: casualfilter

>> No.5630641

I expect more quicksaving the instant he takes damage and getting lost from almost NEVER using the automap.

>> No.5630645

Adds a lot of "missing" sounds to the game, like bone effects for revenant or chain gun sounds, I use chaulking pc of the 3 options, Google doom chaulkjing

>> No.5630650

Am I the only one that has played RLA so much I don't remember normal Doom anymore?

>> No.5630652

*doom sound caulking
anons keyboard is having a stroke

>> No.5630654
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Dang, that's going straight into the autoload folder. Thanks, anon.

>> No.5630657

Any tips for completing Map28 in Scythe? I seems no matter how fast I go, I always die right at the exit.

>> No.5630659

Generally no. The blursphere's effects are more powerful than blues, but it also causes aggravated damage in addition to insanity effects. In longer mapsets, it's definitely better to have the steady constant healing of blues. Especially because once you're deep in the blur hole, the only safe way out is to find some spiritual armor, and that stuff's as rare as it gets.

>> No.5630662

You're gonna need your big boy SR50 pants on if you're playing on UV.

>> No.5630667

It's some annoying shit to be walled by this when no previous map has ever required it. No map I've ever played has required it.

>> No.5630674
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I just barely got a death exit using nothing but SR40. You might be able to make it with perfect execution, but SR50 is really what you need.

>> No.5630675

Actually to get the secret maps in Scythe 1/2 needs it.

>> No.5630682

I got both secret maps without it. I didn't even have turn keys or a strafe toggle bound.

>> No.5630705

What does the smooth textures addon for SmoothDoom do? It's not explained anywhere in the release thread and I can't notice any difference with or without it.

>> No.5630710
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Got it with pure SR40. Good luck doing this if you're playing on a more vanilla-accurate port, those lost souls early on are bastards.

>> No.5630714

Doom? More like NYOOOM

>> No.5630716

Doing it in prBoom+.

>> No.5630718
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I'm never playing this shitty map again.

>> No.5630729

ur 2 slo

>> No.5630775

>Map *requires* an exploit to progress
Why is this allowed
I don't care if it were to get a secret or something, but a map that NEEDS you to straferun is complete bullshit. What do you do if you've never heard of straferunning and come across this map? You're completely stuck.

>> No.5630779
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Take care of his family and recover everything.

>> No.5630780

>Straferunning is an exploit
I do it by default in any game I play. Started before I even knew for certain that it was faster, rather, it just felt faster.

>> No.5630782

Congratulations, it is still an exploit in idtech1 games

>> No.5630790

>Doomguy marries one of the only characters who could kick his ass in a fight
Makes total sense.

>> No.5630796

They're probably pretty even honestly (it's hard to tell considering they both have ultra-high killcounts of things which could singlehandedly take out a platoon of soldiers), it's just that Samus wins any fights because Doomguy doesn't like hitting a lady. She tells him not to treat her as special for being female but he still holds back.

>> No.5630809

just look at how he hugs he, he has class.

>> No.5630812

>They're probably pretty even honestly
Sorry bro but no. Go compare similar attacks in games like Metroid prime to Doom. Samus has a health bar so long it's insane, and all her weapons are easily equal to at least a chaingun/rocket launcher, BFG if you count some of the more insane Prime 2 ones. We're talking about someone who can facetank a rocket and take one third of one tenth of their health in damage, carries hundreds of similar homing rockets, has multiple infinite ammo weapons that can kill most unarmored targets in under 5 hits, etc.
It's like comparing Conan to the Terminator. It's not a fair fight from the get go.
>Doomguy won't hit a lady
Unless she asks for it :^)

>> No.5630813

I know it's not retro but the nu-DOOM Cyberdemon design is so bad. What were they thinking? Glad Eternal seems to be leaning more towards the original designs for monsters.

>> No.5630823
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Anon, both are tied, the thing is that doomguy would never fight serioius with a woman due to respect and discipline, and samus wouldn't fight him seriously because she hates hurting people.

Sadly DrPipsy will never finish his Spritepack for nu cyberdemon

>> No.5630825

>samus wouldn't fight him seriously because she hates hurting people
Sakamoto retcons don't count. There were only 2 Prime games and no metroid games on Wii AND YOU CAN'T CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE LALALALALALALALAAAAAA please god why did it come to this

>> No.5630827
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>Kylo Ren

>> No.5630828

Tails and Knuckles make the platforming a lot easier. Sonic's kind of a bitch to use in that game. 2.2 can't come out soon enough.

>> No.5630829
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>Samus has to teach her son to jump because doomguy uses mark V boots
>Doomguy has to teach chief how to melee because samus cant
>Both teach him how to shoot and build his own pistol

>> No.5630830

>Sadly DrPipsy will never finish his Spritepack for nu cyberdemon
Seems busy pulling rotational spriting for every fucking gameplay mod under the sun right now.

>> No.5630831

Scythe II has some rockin midis. About 10 levels deep and they keep getting better, hearing more is my main drive to finish this wad right now.

>> No.5630832

I project everything wrong with the world onto the demons in the game, and then killing them makes me feel better. Maybe designing a map to act as catharsis will help you.

>> No.5630839

>Doomguy forgot to teach chief how to go fast so he moves slow like his mom
>Samus forgot to teach chief how to get free health and ammo from killing dudes so he has to rely on pickups outside of his shields
Bad parenting 101

>> No.5630842

I wasn't aware he was working on other mods.

>> No.5630843

If youve never heard of straferunning you shouldnt be trying to play doom pwads, since you clearly have near-zero knowledge of the game

>> No.5630845

Oh fuck I'm so sorry

>> No.5630846

I legit like Sigil more than I've ever liked any level pack for this game, even the original levels, it's the most perfect distillation of like, the original game's dungeon crawling feel that you also get in Doom II

Are there any other megawads like this? that feel more like a dungeon crawl adventure than rip and tear stuff, because I never noticed how much I didn't like the fast paced focus in Doom until I played this

Now I know why Episodes 2 and 3 are my favorites from the original game

>> No.5630852

>an entire gas station

>> No.5630853

>If you've never heard of [insert exploit here], you shouldn't be trying to play fan-made levels of [insert game here]
I get it, strafe running is easy. It is still an unintended mechanic for idtech1, this makes it an exploit.

>> No.5630856

Well that’s something.

>> No.5630858

There's the "DOOM the Way id Did" series of wads. The levels are hit or miss imo but for the most part they do manage to capture that vanilla aesthetic and feel.

>> No.5630859

His hobby is collecting gas station memorabilia. A tad strange, but I can't judge.

>> No.5630863

Are there any projects that attempt to retroactively apply ideas and lore from Doom 3 into the classic universe?

>> No.5630865

i mean, people said my collection of women's toenail clippings was strange, so

>> No.5630870


but like why the specific focus on the tight dungeon crawling for this release? it's weird, and I literally prefer it to the design of the original game, are the Doom the Way id Did wads like this? I just want dungeon crawling, it literally feels like I'm playing Rainbow Six or SWAT 4 or something

>> No.5630874

Samus is weird because how strong she is changes constantly through a game, as the whole point of Metroid is finding new upgrades for your suit. How a fight would play out against her would be totally different based on which game you pulled her from, and what POINT in that game you pulled her from. It's complicated like that.

>> No.5630881

E4M2 was Romero's low point. Ugly, annoying and doesn't look like properly finished (after all, it's a 6 hour map).

IMHO Sigil's spiritual predecessor was E4M6, which played (and looked) similarly with movement restrictions and puzzles to learn. Add a Sigil type start and end, some glowing cracks and a few shootable eyes, and E4M6 can be put into Sigil easily. Same can't be said about E4M2.

>> No.5630882

All is forgiven.

>> No.5630886

>Doomguy Tyson mode vs weakest samus
Samus wins
>Fully-loaded Super Metroid Samus vs Fully loaded Doomguy who's just grabbed an invuln and Megasphere
Samus wins, presuming there's a wall to dodge BFG with.
It's really only a contest in the middle.

>> No.5630891

I mean
for a moment I thought he just uprooted an entire fucking gas station and ran off with it
I was like
"what the fuck"

>> No.5630894

>after all, it's a 6 hour map
That makes me wonder how long he took for each map in Sigil. Especially the secret map.

>> No.5630898

doesn't that apply to every game?
sure, doomguy is always fast
but he can range from fist + pistol + 100hp to 100 rockets + bfg + 400(effective)hp

i forgot how fucking tanky samus can get
> reserve tanks upon reserve tanks
> varia suit and gravity suit reduce incoming damage even further
but as long as there is ENOUGH horizontal space, doomguy is going to outmaneuver
> speed booster/shinespark
requires long stretches of flat ground
doomguy can shuffle in a small area at crazy speeds

>> No.5630902

How do I get into Hideous Destructor, and why the fuck did it turn my screen black and white? Must have/recommended mods to add to it?

>> No.5630904

The gap between Doomguy and Samus narrows a bit if he's allowed to pull from 4 and Eternal. I suppose if she can pull from Prime and beyond it would be fair.

>> No.5630912

>requires long stretches of flat ground
Oh my man you don't know about all the glitchy bullshit tricks though do you? Speed Booster/shinespark is far faster than straferunning and you can start it pretty fast too. You're also forgetting
>Wave beam
>Ice beam
means she's firing a hitbox the size of a mancubus that freezes the target on contact.
Samus is bustedly overpowered in anything but her own setting.

>> No.5630915

>a hitbox the size of a mancubus
*that passes through all solid objects

>> No.5630918
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This is the ideal way to play the Freedoom levels. You may not like it, but this is what Freedoom looks like with Doom graphics.

>> No.5630923

I like the snake imps in Freedoom

>> No.5630924

The new Imp sprites or the old ones? The old ones are cool, but the new tentacle monster thing they've changed them to is not my thing. Not sure why they were changed (or the weapon sprites for that matter.)

>> No.5630927

whatever you call gzdoom - is there a version of that that emulates what it would have been like to play doom in 1993? one without all the bells whistles and upgrades. did original doom even have mouse support for 2d "free" look?

>> No.5630930

They changed them again? I haven't touched it in a long time.

>> No.5630935

I'm still mad they replaced the old gib sound in freedoom. The original is hilarious

>> No.5630936

Buckethead is famous for pumping out albums en masse, not for being a particularly good guitarist, though he is decent.

>> No.5630939

There’s always Crispy Doom and Chocolate Doom. Same for Vanilla Essence.

>> No.5630940

Original Doom did not have freelook. You could use the mouse to look left and right, but not up and down, as in RoTT or Duke. There are settings you can change to get GZDoom to behave fairly similarly to Doom '93, but ultimately, the way GZDoom handles certain things, beyond visuals, is fundamentally different. All that being said, in practical terms, unless you're trying to speed run and rely on Doom '93 glitches, any differences will be negligible. Any skill acquired to GZDoom transfers to Doom '93 and vice versa. If you're looking for a modern port that "...that accurately reproduces the experience of Doom as it was played in the 1990s..." Chocolate Doom is absolutely the way to go. You might also have luck with other ports like PRBoom+, but Chocolate Doom is purpose built for what you're looking for.

>> No.5630942

Did you put on a pair of light amp googles? It kind of turns out like that if you don't have a battery to power it.

As for getting into it, what I did was play around with the weapons and their functions in the firing range and do keybinds as I was experimenting with them.

I also played on the lowest difficulty on Mansionv2.wad, since it was a very short map with some obstacles to try out the climbing and dodging with the large courtyard.

>> No.5630946

No, I wasn't being screwed with the light goggles, I was playing on Entryway and for some reason the game turned black and white.

>> No.5630947
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>They changed them again?
Pic related is the new one. I think in the right context it would be cool, but it's just not for me in the case of Freedoom.

Lord, I totally forgot about that, lol. So mushy and watery sounding. As soon as I read your post, I remembered exactly what it sounded like years ago.

>> No.5630957

Software renderer is the main thing you want to set it to. GZDoom doesn't have 320x200 resolution but it does have 640x400, which is close.
If you want a true 1993 experience, get Chocolate DOOM, which aims to 100% recreate that exact experience (down to having the same limitations; Crispy DOOM is a fork of Chocolate which removes said limits while still being mostly true, and it'd be needed to play something like Sigil).

>> No.5630960 [DELETED] 

Why is the free version of Sigil working fine in Zdoom but not the version with the music?

>> No.5630975

Weird, that's never happened to me.
Save then restart the game?

>> No.5630981

I just removed it, for some reason it still was like that so I reset my settings to default, and now I'm just using SmoothDoom and all that, so whatevs.

>> No.5631012

christ was dodging such a pain in the ass on the original release? i just downloaded chocolate and i guess yo ucan't change key bindings?

>> No.5631018

You can rebind your keys using chocolate-doom-setup.exe, but yes, default DOOM controls are not intuitive in 2019 if you're used to standard WASD movement.

>> No.5631020

When I was a young man when Doom came out, I liked it, but didnt love it. It was fun but I honestly liked Wolfenstein more. Now, when I finally really played Doom 1, 2, and the extra shit, I really fell in love with it. Not sure why, but I think it is a combination of the visuals and map design. I just get sucked the fuck in. Anybody else get that way? If I even see Doom shit, I have to play Doom all the way through again like a turbo autist. I think I've played E1M1 at least 3000 times in just the past year alone. How the fuck did they do it?

>> No.5631027

The buckethead soundtrack is comfy.

>> No.5631030

The "grumbling drunken man" noise you made when you died would always get me.

>> No.5631037


yeah don't bother with the original controls


now the goal is to get a Chocolate/Crispy style engine that's compatible with all limit-removing maps of all types.

I hate having to use Doom Retro for Eviternity, for example.

>> No.5631067

Especially E5M3's track. A level called "Cages of the Damned" should not be as comfy as it is.

>> No.5631078
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Hideous Destructor noob here.

How do I remote activate switches/doors with D.E.R.P.s? I know it's possible but nothing in the manual or help text seems to address it - only how to change between patrol/turret/ambush and simple commands like gotome

Damn fun mod by the way.

>> No.5631079

The secret map looks like a DTWID level trying to imitate Romero's style. It doesn't have the pro look of the other maps.

Normally I think the making of a Sigil quality map needs 80-100 hours on average, probably the first 3 a bit less. But you shouldn't forget making up the ideas. It might be more with the planning.

>> No.5631084

The original ID team were made out of autists.

>> No.5631087

The classic dooms are verging on painful to play blind unless you savescum the fuck out of them (which I really should be doing but I don't like playing games that way)

They either just play the game straight in which case it's fun enough although verging on too easy since the game was probably expected to be played on keyboards before mice

Or they royally fuck you in the ass with a GOTCHA trap like cyberdemons spawning directly in front of you in close quarters, a teleporter leading into a point-blank clusterfuck, a platform suddenly dropping into an inescapable death-pit, or having such numbers of enemies or scarcity of ammo that if you don't know what's coming in advance and rationing HEAVILY/finding secrets you're just straight fucked.

Should I just look up walkthroughs and maps in advance so I can actually focus on playing well instead of playing so safe and skittish it makes RE1 look fast?

>> No.5631089

derp 555 in the console attaches DERPs to walls/switches, derp 556 activates it, I recommend just binding those.

>> No.5631094

Just played through Urania and Adonis, very Plutonia and a little bit of Evilution based and had a big exploration and puzzle feel .

>> No.5631095

Thanks anon
Why the heck is this info nowhere to be found in the manual tho. What other obscure cool shit am I missing out on that isn't written there either?

>> No.5631105

Playing dead when second fleshing makes it stronger, make sure to holster your weapon when falling from ledges as it gives you a greater threshold before taking damage, pulling your view up and over a ledge when at the top of a ladder helps a lot, though it might just be the act of turning.

>> No.5631106
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>somehow never knew sound caulking was a thing
>go through the trouble of making a bunch of new pain sounds for my mod
>add a nice switch to them so people can revert if they want
>realize sound caulking is a thing
>"Oh, it should be mostly compatible as long as my own custom sounds are turned off!"
>My implementation is literally the exact reverse of how it would need to be done to be compatible
>Literally just remake the whole implementation from scratch
>Ends up shorter and more efficient
Sometimes I feel like the world is laughing with me, and sometimes I feel like it's laughing at me. This is definitely the latter.

>> No.5631113

>Playing dead when second fleshing makes it stronger
I tried this but it still seems to take forever. Is that intentional?

>> No.5631118

Second flesh will always take a long ass time, but the amount you recover is significantly higher if you lay on the ground and wait it out.

>> No.5631120

Gotcha. Well, thank you senpai

>> No.5631167

E4M2 is the bomb. It's just an elegant, pure chokehold of a map where you're fighting for every inch, but doesn't last longer than it needs to. It's like a proto-Plutonia map. Ugly, whatever. It plays great, and that's what really counts.

>> No.5631170

If you're having trouble playing the game on Ultraviolence, there's nothing wrong with going down to Hurt Me Plenty and if you're just new to this style of FPS game in general I probably wouldn't make fun of you for playing on Not Too Rough but that makes the maps too simple to be fun in my opinion. HMP decreases the amount of enemies and increases pickups relative to Ultraviolence, making instances like gotcha traps easier to deal with. I and a lot of other people generally like the "gotcha" instances of DOOM though; it's a moment of surprise where you need to think quickly and respond to a situation at a glance. It has a learning curve for sure, but you'll both figure out how to deal with each enemy type in a gotcha situation, as well as get a better sense of where to expect these traps in the first place.
Again, I do recommend playing on HMP if you're having trouble with UV. The community likes to stress "UV pistol start or you're a pussy," and while I think that's the most fun way to play once you've gotten gud, it's not really the best for newer players.

>> No.5631176

Doesn't E4M2 have the timed secret that is missable after a certain amount of time? I can't stand that shit. If I'm looking for secrets and I know I'm missing one I'll hunt every inch of the map. It's a stupid mechanic if I'm remember it correctly.

>> No.5631180

PRBoom running the proper complevel. It's demo compatible with vanilla, so just putting everything else to fit your visual standards should be enough.

>> No.5631184


I can't get it to the proper 320x200 aspect ratio corrected look, and can I limit the framerate to 30?

>> No.5631187


>> No.5631206
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>Dubs on /vr/

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>> No.5631219

He's probably a newfag who doesn't know the difference between dubs and gets

>> No.5631234
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>Doesn't E4M2 have the timed secret that is missable after a certain amount of time?

-geom <width>x<height> lets you set the resolution, and you can set the aspect ratio from within. It looks like putting "uncapped framerate" to "no" locks it at 35 FPS. This is a tad out of my league because I don't play very vanilla, but that's what I found.

>> No.5631273

why the hell not

>> No.5631337
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can this be next thread's OP image?

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>> No.5631369
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Same zoomer from before, just beat Thy Flesh Consumed

it was actually fucking cool, but the first 2 maps can go fuck themselves

>> No.5631389

You can thank American McGee for E4M1, and John Romero for E4M2.

>> No.5631390

E4M2 isn't so bad on pistol start, at least.

>> No.5631420

Just finished Sigil. That was shit.

>> No.5631430

It's way more fun with UV, since HMP doesn't have all those cyberdemons. I recommend you to try UV.

>> No.5631437
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Return to his home town quietly, set up a farm and raise bunny rabbits, donating them to local orphaned children from the invasion

>> No.5631442

James Paddock (the midi composer for Sigil) did a video on Sigil

>> No.5631460

I personally don't agree that E4M2 is ugly.
Its visuals are definitely not on the same level as modern wads. But very good by 90's standards.

>> No.5631461
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new drawing featuring Evil Eye-chan.

>> No.5631467
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Right, thats it, I'm fucking done
The Golden Souls 2 is just too fucking long
I got about half way though world 3 and even after taking a two week break, I loaded my save, saw I was still on the water temple level and just quit out.

Every single level outstays its welcome by about half an hour. Whats there is well made and in a vacuum would be a very good Doom map, but all together they are just too fucking long. I've gotten sick of the mod far before the end.

The maps would be fine at half the size. I don't know why the modder felt they needed to make them so long

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>> No.5631471 [DELETED] 

i guess

>> No.5631483

HDoom is for that.

>> No.5631513

Most ZDoom wads just have bad level design. Usually nice scripting and experimentation, but nothing else. I'm not going to touch any new ZDoom unless it's made by skilled level designer. I'm actually looking forward Realm Of ZMagic though. Dimension Of The Boomed was a fun wad and I did enjoy the teaser demo of Realm Of ZMagic.

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>> No.5631523
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>Nor will I give Sigil an overarching opinion
>Sigil is not my cup of tea on the higher difficulties, but I don't dislike the set at all.
tee hee

>> No.5631538
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>taking a paid job making music for a map set that you don't really like is hypocritical

>> No.5631542

Free software projects often have questionable changes, usually because whoever gets to decide it, just changes it and nobody else is in a place to question it.

A number of sounds like the gib sound are worse now, to a degree that makes the sprite changes seem like a very negligible thing.

>> No.5631547

What's wrong with the new sloppy taco bell diarrhea sound recorded from inside the toilet bowl?

>> No.5631560

It's not as funny.

>> No.5631567

Where can I listen to it?

>> No.5631568

In pretty much every mod made by Kegan.

>> No.5631569

>Most ZDoom wads just have bad level design
I'd say this is because Hexen and UDMF formats are much more complex and feature rich, that it takes a lot more time and effort to actually design a good level with them.
It's why most mapsets tend to stick to vanilla and boom formats. Much simpler to work with.

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>> No.5631572
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The hypocrisy is that he claims to not try to make an overarching review and says that he's unbiased at the end of the video, but constantly uses language that show how much he likes it and mentions what he doesn't like about it. I don't mind because I also think Sigil is really good, but just admit that you like it instead of pretending you're withholding judgment. What's he worried about, looking like a conflict of interest? Who gives a fuck? It's a free map pack.

>> No.5631574

>but constantly uses language that show how much he likes it and mentions what he doesn't like about it.

All he seemed to do was give a broad overview of the maps

>> No.5631579

Sounds weird! Thanks.

>> No.5631583

Nightmare! is actually stupidly hard and really not suggested for the average player, originally added as a joke for people who complained that the base game wasn't hard enough on Ultra-Violence, it's managed to get itself established as a hardcore challenge mode for speedrunners.

Freelook isn't enough of a boon to make a serious difference in Nightmare!, because to play Nightmare! you just need to be seriously fucking good at the game at any rate (particularly for Thy Flesh Consumed and Plutonia), regardless of if you can look up or down.

>> No.5631589

E4M2 is like an aggressive handjob, ouch, that's rough, but it still feels fucking great eventually.

>> No.5631592
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Come on, lucky number something!

>> No.5631593

Possibly, but I really hope he puts down some rules to make it all run much more effectively.

Like not a hard rule, but say that if a map realistically would take over 20 minutes, it counts against it.

>> No.5631596
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Not immortal, but magical healing is the best source of healing in HD, capable of (eventually) fully fixing even the worst of injuries.

8 bottles of blue I think could comfortably take you through a lot of very difficult encounters.

>> No.5631601
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It's literally not cheating. The original game had support for it. Even Wolf3D was designed with a mouse in mind.
Don't know where this outright lie came from or why it holds so much traction with zoomers who've never played Doom.
You could say that using vertical look is cheating, but just using the mouse in its default state (horizontal look only) is in no way cheating.

>> No.5631603

>You should really check it out if you love classic Doom or anything from the same era
>Consistency is key, and this setup is fine when used across all the maps like this
>The crusher section is iconic
>Level 5 is a visually striking level
>A maze with a cyberdemon in it. What more could you ask for?
>Well worth checking out and everyone should play it
>Sigil isn't quite my cup of tea on the higher difficulties, but I don't dislike the maps
It's not as heavily opinionated as any of the other reviewers that have looked at Sigil, but it's not free of value judgements and recommendation. Again, I'm fine with that because people shouldn't be robots when talking about something personal like what it's like to play a game, but just don't waste breath saying it's free of bias.

>> No.5631606

Play with fast monsters instead. Nightmare is pretty bad. -fast command line.

>> No.5631610

God I hope not. Brought way to many memers and faggots into the community.

>> No.5631616

It's fun, but it's developed at a glacial pace and the community isn't much more active.

>> No.5631618

Because there's some confusion on the differences between:
>using the mouse for horizontal turning (original intended behavior)
>using true freelook to look in any direction (not supported by the original .exes, allows you to alter the odds or outright break some original maps)
>using the look up or look down features (as seen in some of the licensed engine games)

There's this persistent myth that Doom was designed exclusively around using only a keyboard.

>> No.5631624

Just point people to old speedruns or whatever. DM demos. People definitely play with a mouse in those.

>> No.5631628

Or the manual

>> No.5631632
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More specifically pic related.

>> No.5631634

Or the original demo lumps, where you can clearly see on the movement how Romero is playing with a mouse for turning.

>> No.5631642
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Oh yeah. Never even thought of that.

>> No.5631654

when the FUCK is sugoi 3 coming out

>> No.5631662

Hey people! What's the deal with invisible bridge on level 3 (I think) in plutonia 2? Do I have to load some extra stuff for it to show?

Playing on GZDOOm

>> No.5631668

Just skip the level. It's impossible. By the time you have to fight a fuckzillion of spiders and cacos you have literally no ammo. Guy who made it is retard.

>> No.5631675

It's supposed to be invisible.

Git gud lmao

>> No.5631678

Just a dick move. Don't worry about it.

>> No.5631704

>Beat all the episodes of quake
>Game somehow forgot I beat the first three episodes right after beating the last level of the forth episode
>lol you dont have the rune stones

Livid right now

>> No.5631705

I like Chex Quest. I like rpg

>> No.5631709

No thats a common glitch where it wipes your runes.

You can just add the runes with a console command. That happens sometimes.

>> No.5631712

Bring up the console and type "impulse 11" to add a rune

>> No.5631718

I have tried that and nothing seems to happen. I have exited the console and retried

>> No.5631721

That was a bug that could happen in the original .exe sometimes.
Most sourceports fix it.

>> No.5631724

your typing it without the "" right? Some people forget to not type those.

does the console not say anything? Maybe close the game and open it up and try again.

And as a last resort if that doesnt work you can just console command "noclip" through the floor thats supposed to open up leading to the final boss. Thats all that happens is a door opens.

>> No.5631725

You need to type Impulse 11 multiple times to make it change the amount of runes you have.

>> No.5631746

I no clipped and fucked up that bastard. Now it is time for quake MP and other maps. I was using quakespasm I was surprised a bug like that would still be in the game.

>> No.5631747

Remember that gote companion mod some crazy person made a while ago?

Well now you can finally bring along Barney the bully for optimun HD play in megawads such as alien vendetta and hell revealed 2

>> No.5631748

They left it due to compatibility issues with original save files

>> No.5631759

I didn't get it any of the three times I played Quake in Quakespasm, I assumed it was fixed.

You should try Dissolution Of Eternity and Scourge Of Armagon too. Dimensions Of The Past is great as well.

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>> No.5631789

I see cool, is it is just me or no quake servers are up for mp

>> No.5631801

Hopefully next year he bait and switches Doom for Heretic instead.
I just want some more Heretic love.

>> No.5631808

Has he even played Heretic? Never seemed to be a thing in Scandinavia.

>> No.5631810

That'd be interesting to see actually.

>> No.5631835

New thread.


>> No.5632784

He would either retire to some suburban or rural area, or explore the galaxy searching for strange new worlds.

>> No.5632821

>no porn of samus and doomguy, both nude and muscular as fuck, fucking lovingly, because samus is potrayed as a bimbo slave and doomguy is replaced with "doomgal" in their respective porn most of the time

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