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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5617995

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

Doom RPG series
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K
https://pastebin.com/idahQRj2

>> No.5621283

=== NEWS ===

[5-28] METADOOM has moved over to Zscript, SIGIL supported, Testers needed
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010

[5-28] New LTG beta release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1105508#p1105508

[5-27] Quake 2 RTX Release date in June 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unGtBbhaPeU

[5-26] SIGIL has been leaked, check the links in the OP

[5-23] Chex Quest 3 has been re-released officially
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPByIugoiM0

[5-22] SIGIL is shipping
https://twitter.com/romero/status/1131200733192380417

[5-21] Redemption Of The Slain is getting a no BD version
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=64768

[5-21] Cyrgoth's Manor -a 7 Level Hub FOR Hexen has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106379-hexen-cyrgoths-manor-7-level-hub/

[5-19] Unbeliever, heretic megawad has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105690-unbeliever-a-heretic-megawad-release-candidate/

[5-18] BuildGDX update with FOV slider and other fixes, now supports Duke Nukem
https://m210.duke4.net/

[5-16] REKKR updated to v1.16
http://manbitesshark.com/

[5-15] GZDoom 4.1.2 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64701

[5-12] Quake 1 sounds remastered
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61714

[5-10] Nightdive's BLOOD remaster released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da8x89BBjI8

[5-9] Sigil delay entirely on the disk
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103430-sigil-new-romero-megawad-for-may-2019/?page=47

[5-7] Two more Quake map jams, SM196 and Map Jam X
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61717
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61718

[5-5] GZDoom 4.1.1 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64582

[5-3] Introducing SM195, seven Quake speedmaps made in 24 hours
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61715


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== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5621303

This Cacoward season is looking meh. Eviternity and Sigil are guaranteed awards but almost everything else released this year looks boring.

>> No.5621323
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5621323

>Sigil is released
>Everybody complains that it's too hard
>I play it on HMP
>It's pretty damn good wad
>Babies just gonna be babies because UV is actually hard

>> No.5621331

>>5621280
>TFW Still waiting for X-Men or Spiderman Doom.

>> No.5621336
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5621336

What would a second issue of the comic be like

>> No.5621339

>>5621283
>[5-26] SIGIL has been leaked, check the links in the OP

i dont see it

>> No.5621340

>>5621323
i think what took alot of people off guard is that doom is generally a very easy game and playing anything below UV is trivial.

>>5621331
>xmen
there's always ravages of apocalypse.

>> No.5621342

>>5621339
Open wide.
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q

>> No.5621345

>MarphitimusBlackimus is a lead designer at RWS
Any other /vr/ related devs on youtube or something similar?

>> No.5621346

>>5621342
ty

>> No.5621348
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>>5621323
>Everybody complains that it's too hard
>I play it on HMP

>> No.5621353

>>5621283
REMEMBER THAT SIGIL OFFICIALLY RELEASES TOMORROW. THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE NEWS POST IN THE NEXT THREAD.

>> No.5621358

>>5621353
Does that mean that there will finally be servers up? I really want to play some Sigil DM with you fags.

>> No.5621359

>>5621336
Trash, pretty much. The bad kind of self-aware.

>> No.5621369

>>5621340
>game made in 1993 is easier when people play with modern hardware, resolution, mouselook, non ball-mice, and have generally a lot more experience with FPS even if theyve never played Doom
>game made by the same guy in 2019 has difficulty appropriate for the much greater skill level of it's audience instead of being balanced exactly like it was in 1993
wooooooow
Are these the same retards who on their first playthrough of Blood and Shadow Warrior, select Extra Crispy and No Pain No Gain, then bitch about how the game isnt balanced?

>> No.5621398

>>5621303
Yeah. If BTSX E3 and TNT2 don't release this year, the cacowards are gonna be a snore.

>> No.5621401

>>5621336
Wouldn't really surprise me if something like that gets handed out at E3.

>> No.5621406

>>5621398
lol christ alive, I have been out of the game for a while but BTSX E3 is STILL not out?

>> No.5621413

>>5621340
People really need to get into the mindset that mapsets are almost never going to be as easy as Doom 1 and 2 themselves on UV. Especially because most of them are made with the expectation that the player has already completed them, and thus have taken off the training wheels.

>> No.5621414

>>5621406
They did make a thread for it with a bunch of screenshots back in february: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104557-back-to-saturn-x-episode-3-wip/
So it could be getting close now. But yeah, still waiting for it.

>> No.5621419
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5621419

So whats your favorite soundfont?
I'm liking the fatboy one some anon linked in a past thread

>> No.5621440

>>5621419
These guys need something to dance to, anons.
https://youtu.be/djV11Xbc914

>> No.5621442
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5621442

>played all the Build games back to back and loved them all
>can't into Doom

>> No.5621454

>>5621442
Even Redneck Rampage + Rides Again?

>> No.5621460

>>5621442
Vanilla DOOM feels ehh after playing Build games, but I still think community made DOOM wads hold up and are enjoyable. The engine is fine and source ports allow some nice new features.
Try Alien Vendetta. It's wad from 2001 but it still holds up, it's a lot faster paced than vanilla DOOM and has nice custom textures.

>> No.5621472
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Now that is a ruined fucking city map

>> No.5621479

>>5621442
You should try the Ashes 2063 TC. It has that Build game feeling. There's even a building exploding / collapsing sequence.

>> No.5621486

does sigil work with wadsmoosh yet? speaking of that do I need to use both doom 1 and 2's sprite fixes for doom-complete.pk3?

>> No.5621487

>>5621359
This. Stuff like that just can't be done twice

>> No.5621489

>>5621348
He's right, though. Because the original Doom wads are so easy even on UV, lots of players have this mindset that that they ought to be able to blaze through UV, but HMP is supposed to be the baseline, not UV.

>> No.5621494

>>5621369
>starting on the hardest difficulty in a game you never played before.
i can get it if it's a franchise you're familiar with but what kind of overcompensating tryhard do you have to be to think this is a good idea?

>> No.5621496

>>5621460
>Alien Vendetta
This is pretty cool so far. I just started really getting into these games and I'm blown away with how many level packs there is for Doom.

>> No.5621504

>>5621496
I have a 3 gigabyte folder of nothing but idtech1 game wads, there are too many good ones to list in a single post.
DOOM is probably the most modified game of all time.

>> No.5621506
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5621506

It won't happen again. We only got one.
Shine on you rushed diamond. RIP traditional media.

>> No.5621507

>>5621489
>but HMP is supposed to be the baseline, not UV.
i know it's probably true but i have a hard time believing that since it felt like levels were designed with UV's encounters in mind that it feels empty without them.

>> No.5621509
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>>5621496
>AV
its a bit spotty in places, but boy you are in for a ride, I can safely say I disagree with the people who say it doesn't hold up

I still have a couple of maps to go so I might have to eat those words later down the line

>> No.5621516

>>5621509
If you end up enjoying it all the way up to the end you should give Scythe II a try. It's very unlike the first Scythe and is more in line with the style of Alien Vendetta. The two wads get compared a lot but I personally think they are both great.

>> No.5621520

>>5621359
you mean the original wasn't? there's no way they unironically did that comic.

>> No.5621527

>>5621419
I hade a cool setup where I was using a virtual mt-32 doing all the music. I tried to do it again but it didn't work for some reason. I should give it another try.

>> No.5621532

>>5621520
Lots of mainstream comics looked like that at the time. Unironically.

>> No.5621536

>>5621442
>>5621460
You should try UV with fast monsters if you haven't already. It really ups the ante without having to deal with respawning enemy bullshit like in Nightmare.

>> No.5621538

>>5621398
>>5621406
i wonder if they'll merge every episode into one wad once BTSX 3 comes out

>> No.5621542

>>5621538
I'll do it myself honestly. Pretty sure I know how and it's not that hard.

>> No.5621559

Draw-anons, I challenge you.
Recolor the Doom comic from scratch.

>> No.5621571

>>5621559
What? Why?

>> No.5621572

>>5621559
the original is perfect as is, in all its idiotic glory

>> No.5621580
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>>5621559
would be funny if we remade it page by page kinda like /m/ did with the gundam OP but in comic form

or maybe panel by panel

>> No.5621591

>>5621538
I doubt it, considering a big part of the project is that it's compatible with vanilla doom2.exe.

>> No.5621592
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5621592

LEWD

>> No.5621594

>>5621440
I think you meant to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ClbHPyF9w
No need to thank me, fren.

>> No.5621596

>>5621571
There are some... inconsistencies.

>> No.5621602

>>5621594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv4y3iklBps

>> No.5621603

>>5621594
Hey, as long as they have something to dance to.

>> No.5621604
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5621604

Anyone know where the hell MARV-ELLER went? Apparently he nuked all his stuff and he hasn't posted in months.

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5621639

is it even worth downloading

>> No.5621643

>>5621639
Not really

>> No.5621646

>>5621639
Do you like jerking off and then acting like you just played it for the lulz? Then it's for you.
Do you like jerking off? Then it's for you.

>> No.5621649

>>5621639
nah the novelty wears off fast

>> No.5621651

>>5621507
They are fine in UV, but the cybies in M2, M5 and M6 are badly missing on HMP. Only the M9 one had been kept, which was quite terrible.

>> No.5621657

>>5621604

He made a YT post a couple months ago saying that he even forgot about the channel and wouldn't upload anymore.

>> No.5621660
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>>5621280
Which must-plays am I missing here, /doom/? Maps only

>> No.5621663

>>5621657
Oh, well shit.

>> No.5621669

>>5621419
Brainlet here, how do you make gzdoom use the fatboy soundfont once downloaded? I assume it's through fluidsynth config or something?

>> No.5621676

>>5621660
preacher, the darkening, hellground, jenesis, strain, nihilty

>> No.5621678

>>5621669
Put fatboy file in the GZD soundfonts folder.
Sound options -> advanced -> midi -> fluid -> select fatboy.
Restart sound on your way out of the menus. Done .

>> No.5621682

What are some good total conversions?

>> No.5621683

>>5621676
Jenesis is already in the list, but I'll check those others out, thanks anon

>> No.5621686

>>5621676
Not trying to namefag btw, just used the name field to specify the map in a screenshot I posted earlier and forgot to remove it.

>> No.5621692

>>5621639
Yes if you play it as C. Kid

>> No.5621693

>>5621682
Castlevania: Simon's Destiny if you're a Castlevania fan. WolfenDOOM: Blade of Agony if you want a modern shooter that plays nothing like DOOM but kind of retains the look.
Honorable mention to The Adventures of Square for being super high quality. Wasn't really a big fan of the palette but I appreciate all the effort that went into it.

>> No.5621706

>>5621693
Thanks these both look awesome

>> No.5621717
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>>5621678
Do you have any recommended settings, or should I leave it all default?

>> No.5621725

>>5621717
I set gain to 1 and up the voices just in case. Reverb is up to you. Gain pretty much seems to be a volume slider so 1 makes sense for the sound menu music slider.

>> No.5621730

>>5621725
Yeah, figured gain = 1 was alright
What does chorus do anyway? I don't really notice a difference on/off. And did you up the voices to max (4096) or to how much?

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5621734

Are there any doom related discord servers that are worth your time? The zdoom server is pretty nice but it feels like there's more shit going on in regards to discord servers I'm just ignorant of.

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>>5621280
>Fall into the pit at the end of Abattoire
>Again

>> No.5621739

>>5621734
>discord
No in general, nothing good comes from discord. I wish someone would revive the IRC though.

>> No.5621745

>>5621739
>muh discord boogeyman
>responds to an obvious troll

lmao

>> No.5621747

>>5621739
its a good place to get advice without waiting several days for an answer
regarding mod dev stuff

>> No.5621749

>>5621745
>merely pretending
k then

>> No.5621754

>>5621730
Chorus is busted? News to me. Never use it anyway so whatevs.
I go with 256 voices. Should be more than enough without hogging any extra memory... or whatever. I'm no expert.

You can tune things in the console too if you want. fluid_ and hit tab. Mess around.

>> No.5621758

>>5621754
Gotcha, thanks anon
I don't know if Chorus is busted, but I didn't notice a "chorus effect" at all when turning it on. Maybe my ears are the ones busted. Oh well, whatever, I won't use it either

>> No.5621771

>>5621745
I'm not a troll, I genuinely wanted to know if there was a decent discord server because I see people mentioning it so much I thought I was missing out on something.

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>>5621592
shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp

>> No.5621787
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>>5621771
I'll be more specific then. Generally no, not unless you're buddies with the people who operate private servers. Discord in general is infested with the absolute worst kind of people and any small tidbits you can get from it are usually obtainable elsewhere, though sometimes more slowly or with more difficulty. If you can tolerate the ZDoom discord and you really need a chat group for people who play doom for some godforsaken reason then get yourself in with the admins there and get access to their private channels. Personally I'd rather eat a bullet than deal with them but obviously I'm not everyone.
There's also the /r/doom discord but that's mainly for NuDoom, and the private Doominati one if it's still up but good luck getting in unless you know Terminus or something (plus it's apparently more for modding than anything else). All in all these threads are probably far more worth your time than any discord channel unless you're fine with the kind of idiocy that comes with online personas and power hierarchies.

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>>5621604
>someone actually kept this image I made

>> No.5621801

>>5621796
Ye boi I was the one who posted the transparent Jake Paul that you used in that thread. I couldn't not save it.

>> No.5621805

>>5621801
I lost the image so I'm just glad to have it again. Thanks.

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>>5621805
np bro

>> No.5621809

>>5621787
I appreciate the response. I used to be active in the doom community from about 2011 to 2016 and I just dropped off until more recently. A lot has changed in those 3 years and I'm still trying to catch up to speed, hearing people blindly bash discord without any reasoning just confused me as discord (from my eyes) was just irc with file uploading.

>> No.5621810

>>5621739
the /vr/ channel is on zandronum's server under #vr right?

>> No.5621824

I'm surprised that Civvie hasn't reviewed Final DOOM by now. Wonder if he will.

>> No.5621832

>>5621807
Last night I rip and tear gibbed your sister?

>> No.5621834

>>5621810
Something like that yeah. It's been dead for years now though.
>>5621809
I get that, I dropped off from 2015-2017 so I came back to a dead IRC and discord servers galore. In my honest opinion I would say that, unless you need specialized knowledge RIGHT NOW and there are people active in that discord, these threads and the ZDoom wiki/gzdoom.pk3/gzdoom source are a far less stressful and more useful tool for social interaction and modding reference respectively. Learning to read the pk3/source especially is well worth the time investment if you're going to be modding.

>> No.5621836

>>5621323
Yeah, the combination of Doom being easy on UV and GGGman crying about it being too hard are all probably people just playing it on UV and crying about it. Not to be a huge fag about e-celebs but Civvie is proving his superiority here again.

>>5621479
I'd second this, played the first ashes and it was fantastic. Great soundtrack, gunplay and atmosphere. Hard mode made ammo insanely scarce though. Is there a second episode or a fan continuation or am I forgetting something?

Also played through Quake 1.5 and loved it, shit was fucking amazing.

>>5621460
Is there a decent place that categorizes Doom mods? I want to check out more of them but it just seems like a mountain of information, and I'm only really interested in total conversions or map packs.

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SIGIL v1.1 is out and officially free:

https://www.romerogames.ie/s/SIGIL_V1_1.zip

>> No.5621846

>>5621838
What did he fix? I assume the glitch with the eye switches getting stuck sometimes?

>> No.5621847

>>5621836
>Is there a decent place that categorizes Doom mods?
Not exactly but there are a fuckton on ZDoom's forums.
>I'm only really interested in total conversions or map packs.
So if you're not that deep into Doom you may not know, but you can absolutely mix and match weapon/enemy mods with maps to sort of roll your own experience. If you prefer build-like speed I'd suggest trying BURL TUMD (if you can find it) or Faspons. They work on most mapsets and alter both enemies and weapons.

>> No.5621852

>>5621838
I never noticed the how ripped carrmack looks in this photo

>> No.5621858

>>5621824
He probably will. His doom 2 review was only a couple weeks ago.

>> No.5621859

>>5621852
his muscles are actually just his brain which grew to fit his entire body

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>>5621846

https://pastebin.com/K7gxraK1

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>>5621852

I'm reading Masters of Doom at the moment and apparently he was pretty buff back then.

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>>5621863

the changelog in the file isn't complete tho
that changelog covers what flambeau and kb_doomer provided, but then there were a few more additional changes
from the top of my head: the e5m2 mandatory medkit pickup to open up the exit is now a bunch of health bonuses so people are drawn to it better
the inescapable bit of lava right next to the start area is now escapable
some DM visual crap was fixed
most important (covered in the changelog tho) is that the compat version now has a dehacked definition that stops the mastermind death from ending m8

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>>5621859
Reduce mass

>> No.5621884
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browsing doom general

>> No.5621894

I really hope Xaser's getting paid to work on Sigil. He's a good guy who'd do it for free but shit, Romero. Not like you haven't been raking in money on this.

>> No.5621903

>>5621894
Extra! Johh Romero is a slave owner!

>> No.5621904

>>5621894
Uh... you mean Jimmy?

>> No.5621907

>>5621894
Dew was also involved with playtesting.

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>>5621904
No.

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>>5621280
Plutonia MAP07 has too many enemies for my lizard brain to handle. There's not enough rocket ammo for both the mancubi and the revenants, trying to kill the former with the SSG takes forever and generally takes away most of my health, and I don't know if it's even possible to kill the latter with the SSG given how high up they are. Is there a "trick" I'm not getting?

>> No.5621928

>>5621923
Pistol start?

>> No.5621931
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>>5621520
I'm sure it was aware of how tongue-in-cheek some lines were (e.g. rambling about the environment in the middle of his killing spree), but there are multiple kinds of self-awareness. "This is at least a little cheesy but we're rolling with it because it's fun" self-awareness is different from "dude we're making something bad on purpose it's going to be a MEME" self-awareness. It's why any attempt at making a "sequel" to one of those low-budget hack films like Birdemic or Sharknado leads to all the charm being sucked out; to generalize, doing something bad because you think it will be good can often be charming, while doing something bad because you're trying to be "so-bad-it's-good" will always just lead to something both bad and bland.

>> No.5621941

>>5621928
Yeah, pistol start.

>> No.5621958

>>5621941
Gave it a shot. Not too tricky.
Pick the zombiemans off with your pistol after you've cleaned up some mancs. (Single click and you have perfect accuracy.) It's fine if you waste a rocket on the chaingunner. Rockets or SSG for the remaining mancs. Revs weren't so bad. Clean some of them up with rockets and SSG for the rest. Keep grabbing health from the elevators if you need it. Jump in the trench if you need a breather. Just keep moving and blasting until you feel it's safe enough to head to the upper level. SSG, dodge and weave and get the megasphere.

I'll admit, I cheesed the it when the archies showed up. Ran to a elevator, flames locked on to me as it came down. I built up some speed and ran over the elevator, archie attack hit me and made me jump. Cleared the trench and then I got the fuck out of there. Couple of chaingun boys and an arach by the exit. No problem. Level complete.

>> No.5621965

>>5621923
here's a trick: you can just barely get line of sight on the elevator barons from below
shoot one of them before you kill the last fatty to get him off the elevator, and you'll be able to get onto the elevator easily and have an easy time rocketing the bony bastards who haven't woken up and are still in their towers

>> No.5621979
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Hideous Destructor players, could you please share what keybindings you're using? I have trouble finding a setup that I'm comfortable with, so I'd like to try some of yours

>> No.5621995
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5621995

I like it when revenants die. They like it when I die. What a nice relationship.

>> No.5622003

>>5621965
>shoot one of them before you kill the last fatty to get him off the elevator, and you'll be able to get onto the elevator easily and have an easy time rocketing the bony bastards who haven't woken up and are still in their towers
That did the trick. I just ignored the archviles and booked it for the exit as soon as I hit the switch. Thank both of you anons for the advice.

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5622010

>>5622003
Nice.

>> No.5622029
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5622029

I didn't see the new thread...

>> No.5622041

>>5622029
These threads run insanely fast, just like Doomguy!

>> No.5622057

>>5622029
>>5622041
Sigil really boosted activity in these threads

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>>5622003
>MAP08
I can already see why Plutonia is so strongly associated with revenants, holy fuck
After the first time (where I got killed by it) I somehow managed to avoid triggering the chaingunner teleport rush by the blue key every subsequent run. Is that normal?

>> No.5622112

>>5621660
Monster Hunter Ltd (pt1&2)

>> No.5622123
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>>5621736
Anon I just got to this stage and I feel your FUCKING pain
I'm really glad I allowed myself one mid-level save per map, it alleviates the pain since I can go back to that save, but I've still died half a dozen times to the pit

>> No.5622127

Alright rate how casual I am at Doom. I enable jumping, I have a binded key that gives me megaspheres when I'm at low health, I "give X card/skull" through the console when a boring maze segment happens, I resurrect whenever I die. I mainly use GZDoom as my main source port and I have a whole bunch of postprocessing effects enabled like FXAA, AO and tonemapping like Heji Dawson but no trilinear filtering that looks terrible. I play with the default dark sector lights, I mainly noclip to skip whatever boring part of the map I'm at, I use linetarget to know the name of custom enemies and mainly "summonfriend" monster whenever I can. Also I don't mouse look.

>> No.5622140

>>5622127
>I enable jumping
You already lost, stopped reading there

>> No.5622143

>>5622127
Sounds like you need to try some gameplay mods

>> No.5622148
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>>5621979
Besides what's listed here:
Tab and E for inventory cycling and usage
Y and U for DERP remote switch placement and activation
N to play dead (greatly improves second flesh efficiency)
L to drop inventory

>> No.5622178

>>5621280
Brainlet here. I can't get sigil to work with the buckethead soundtrack...it keeps defaulting to the midi ost (which is great), but I want to hear the buckethead one. I'm dragging SIGIL.wad and the SIGIL_SHREDS.wad into gzdoom and I can't find the option to switch soundtracks...how do i do this?

>> No.5622179
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>>5622127
You're what's wrong with the Doom community.

>> No.5622180

>>5622178
You're not meant to load both wads.

>> No.5622181
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5622181

>>5622178
Try switching the order you're selecting the files.

>>5622180
yes you are.

>> No.5622184

>>5622181
>yes you are.
Oh shit, you're right. I misremembered how i loaded it.
Anyway, you're gonna want Shreds to be loaded After SIGIL itself.

>> No.5622190

>>5622178
>>5622180
>>5622181
nvm I figured it out...I had to manually load the doom.wad as well as the other two and them gzdoom defaulted to the buckethead ost, thanks for the (you)s anyway.

>> No.5622194

>>5622179
Crotch rocketry

>> No.5622212
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>90s/00s fps devs be like "hell yeah we need a forced stealth section"

>> No.5622218
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>>5622212
Don't know about forced.

>> No.5622219

>>5621303
We still have half the year left.

>> No.5622234

>>5621348
HMP is normal difficulty. UV is hard difficulty. Hard difficulty is supposed to be hard.

>> No.5622235

>>5620168
>Changing Lighting from "Dark" to "Software" makes it slightly better

Makes it even darker outside of light circle though.

>>5621495
>>5620251
>>5621543
There's an unspoken competition in Russian gamedev.ru community on what kind of turd they can push onto Steam
In one of prior threads there was a link to the projects gamedev page.

>> No.5622242

>>5621323
This. I'll do UV when I'm done with HMP.

>> No.5622254

>>5621660
Double Impact

>> No.5622259

>>5621660
Doom The Way Id Did
Doom The Way Id Did : Lost Episodes
Doom 2 The Way Id Did
TNT Revilution
Alfonzone

>> No.5622262

>>5621852
Dude was always pretty buff.

>> No.5622306
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5622306

Why do they even call it a megawad when it's only one episode? Aren't those supposed to be the full 32 levels (in case of Doom 2, at least)?

>> No.5622308

>>5622306
Romero's just wrong.

>> No.5622310

>>5622306
Megawad traditionally refers to any wad with 15+ maps in it, and Romero considers SIGIL to have 18 because each singleplayer map also has a separate deathmatch map included.

>> No.5622316

>>5622310
I see what he's thinking, but it still doesn't make it count as a megawad IMO.

>> No.5622320

>>5622316
It's a stretch for sure, but he's technically not wrong, which makes him technically correct, and we all know that's the best kind of correct.

>> No.5622352
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5622352

if vanilla essence is the way to play, how am I getting 9 fps when its turned on. while regular gzdoom legacy 3.8 but with downscaled resolution brings me to a crispy 60+fps, picrel

>> No.5622365
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>>5622352
probably because your processor is dog snot and can't handle the software renderer.

>> No.5622375

>>5621303
Ultimate Doom The Way id Did was a fucking good wad. I'm also sure that BTSX E3 will be released this year since we got the massive amount of screens, and "confirmation" that the wad is actually happening.

That's 4 good wads already. 2018 didn't have anything else interesting for me than Dimension of the Boomed.

>> No.5622398
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5622398

Fuck, all of the Sigil 1.1 demos are desynced, at least on Crispy Doom. On Version 1.0 it only seemed like demo 3 had an issue.
It doesn't really matter all that much, but it upsets my tism.

>> No.5622428

>>5622398
They're probably deciding not to do a new demo reel until they're confident there's no more game breaking bugs.

>> No.5622435
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5622435

I liked Sigil. Last map is kind of a joke on HMP.
I figure I should give it a go on UV with the patch, I never found the secret exit (which level is it on?)

I really liked the music by Buckethead.
Not the best mapset ever or anything, but I had fun.

>> No.5622469

>>5622310
More like his wife does and he just goes along with it because HE'S BIGGER THAN THE COMMUNITY, right?

>> No.5622494

>>5621832
Hot

>> No.5622529

>>5622352
did you turn off the 35 FPS cap?

I wouldn't say its THE way to play, but I really fucking love how I can get the Chocolate Doom look while also using gameplay mods

>> No.5622561

>play Scythe 2 because everyone says it's the bees knees
>much more modern map design than vanilla Doom, maps allow for a lot of movement
>difficulty increase later in the wad just massively bumps up monster numbers, makes combat a chore; Circle Strafing Simulator

>play Sigil because nothing better to do
>very confined, almost claustrophobic map design, pretty oldschool
>difficulty increase is done through dastardly enemy placement and player restriction, need quick thinking to overcome

I'm starting to think there's something to all of you bitching about newer map design trends.

>> No.5622594

Should I play Plutonia, TNT, BTSX, Ancient Aliens etc. with Final Doomer first time round or does it mess with the balance?

>> No.5622605

>>5622594
It does mess with the balance, but it doesn't mess with the fun

>> No.5622608
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5622608

what in the fuck is this romero?

>> No.5622621
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sup

>> No.5622634
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>>5622608
I did it.

>> No.5622639

>>5621442
For me Doom is much more enjoyable than Build games. There is almost no space for tactics in Build games, it's just all-or-nothing assault and the control / movement feels a bit clunky.
When I play Doom, I always feel "in control". I never had such feeling while playing Duke / Blood / Shadow Warrior.

>> No.5622674

>>5622435
>Not the best mapset ever or anything, but I had fun.

It really is. Sigil is more than just a mapset, it has visible artistic merits. You know, the thing that separates the true work of art from the random pretenders.

Sigil has lots of great ideas, all maps have their own narratives, lots of great design elements, not flawless by any means, but pleasure to play and look at.

Most mapsets/megawads are like... there. They are fun and all, but they couldn't manage to overcome the "fanwork" label. For instance, they usually overstayed their welcome, lots of repetitive areas and fight are in them.

Good example is Jade Earth. It's a really interesting map with an interesting design philosophy. But you know, it quickly loses its appeal when you fight the same hordes in the same rooms for 2 hours or more.

Ancient Aliens and other high profile wads suffer from this as well. Hard to tell the difference between Map05 and MaP19 or just pick randomly.

Sigil on the other hand clearly shows a master at his work. Romero clearly owed us with this release, he had his hellish snippets in the original game, but was too lazy to do a massive work of his own.

>> No.5622712

>>5622674
is there anything actually wrong with wads like ancient aliens being dedicated to one type of gameplay and one visual style

>> No.5622717

>>5622674
>Ancient Aliens and other high profile wads suffer from this as well. Hard to tell the difference between Map05 and MaP19 or just pick randomly.
Gonna have to disagree here. I found most Ancient Aliens maps were pretty distinct and memorable.

>> No.5622720

>>5621787
>and the private Doominati one
which one of them?

>> No.5622729
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>>5622720
There's only one that I'm aware of, but it's dying.
Honestly a new /vr/ chatroom would be nice, as the irc was, last I checked, dead. I don't have the time to moderate such a thing, and I doubt anyone else does either, which is how these things flounder.

>> No.5622758
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5622758

Saved this from a previous thread. Can someone tell me which wad is this, please?

>> No.5622761

How do you enable the Buckethead music in Sigil? Is it the COMPAT file?

>> No.5622767

>>5622761
SHREDS is the file. Needs to be loaded after SIGIL itself.

>> No.5622768

>>5622767
>SHREDS doesn't come with the base WAD download.
Wow, thanks John.

>> No.5622769

>>5622674
How dare you speak to me?

>> No.5622770
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what the fuck was he thinking with this map

>> No.5622775

>>5622767
>>5622768
>>5622761
has any one uploaded SHREDS yet?

>> No.5622776

>>5622775
Check the thread.

>> No.5622778

>>5622768
That's because Buckethead wasn't doing it for free.

>> No.5622779

>>5622775
Check the OP

>> No.5622782
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5622782

>>5622768
Do you really think Buckethead was letting John use his music for free?
Just check the Mega in the OP, look for "Sigil Registered Version"

>> No.5622790

>>5622608
I thought that part was good.

>> No.5622791

>>5622768
Yes, that was the point with paying.

>> No.5622793

>>5622782
Yeah, I accidentally downloaded the base version again. Thanks fren.
That begs the question, why not just pay him up front/after all of it was made or pay for each song?
He probably did that anyway but whatever.

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>>5622779
>>5622776
in the MEGA? can't find it
nor in musicpacks

>> No.5622798

>>5622795
IDtech 1

>> No.5622803

>>5622798
ah thanks

>> No.5622808

>>5622795
The first one. Under iD Tech 1/Expansions.

>> No.5622809

>>5622793
None of the songs were written for the game, John pretty much went through his catalogue and picked out what he thought went best with the level.
Well, maybe that's not entirely true, I heard from somewhere that that theme was actually written just for Sigil, but I haven't looked into that to verify if it's true.

>> No.5622814

>>5622435
What mods are you using?

>> No.5622819

>>5621280
whoever drew this is a stupid piece of shit. fact.

>> No.5622829

I made a simple sigil deathmatch server on Zandronum if anyone feels like killing each other, it's hosted by Exciter

>> No.5622838

>>5622829
I almost feel like trying out Exitmatch at some point, sounds like it could be pretty fun.

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5622839

huh why is it slightly bigger?

>> No.5622846

>>5622839
v1.1 was an update. Download the "registered version" for the soundtrack and use v1.1's SIGIL.wad and SIGIL_COMPAT.wad

>> No.5622849

>>5622846
Ah i c thanks, using gzdoom so dont need compat I think

>> No.5622858

do u guys prefer the midi or SHREDS?

>> No.5622870

>>5622858
Holy shit dude, just listen to them both and see which one you like more.

>> No.5622879

>>5622858
While I agree with the other guy, here's my shit opinion because I like to listen to my own voice. Both are amazing, I prefer the buckethead soundtrack because I was already a buckethead fan to begin with. However the midi soundtrack fits the feel of classic doom a bit more.

>> No.5622887

>>5622858
I prefer the MIDI tracks myself, but that's mostly because I have a thing for MIDI to begin with, plus I do think Jimmy does good work.
The Buckethead tracks are pretty damn good, and if you're a fan you'll probably love that they're here.

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5622896

Please share some Hideous Destructor pro-tips with me, fellow masochists

Do you always start with the Liberator in your loadout, since you can't find it out in the wild? Or do you use the mod that sometimes spawns full Liberators instead of Plasma Rifles?

Do you often keep a shitton of magazines, or do you only keep a handful and drop the rest?

When incapacitated (drop to the floor), is the only way to get back up to use a stimpack and wait like 40 seconds or so? Or can I do anything else?

Is the Slayer (double barrel shotgun) obsoleted once you find a Hunter (regular shotgun) that has semi-auto or even full-auto fire select?

And any other minor tips you wish you had known when you started, I guess. I'm loving it, but I'm in the dark to a lot of its nuances.

>> No.5622901

>>5622634
what's the soft to show temp and fps stats?

>> No.5622903

>>5622259
dtwid, d2twid, tnt_revilution are already in the list. I'll add lost episodes and alfonzone though, thanks.

>>5622112
>>5622254
thanks guys

>> No.5622908

>>5622901
rivatuner.

>> No.5622914

Where do I get Quake 2 maps?

>> No.5622916

>>5622914
Haha, that's a funny joke anon

>> No.5622917
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>>5622814
Immoral Conduct thing I've been working on for too long
Tilt++
NC HUD
Spritefix Thing
Some brightmaps

>> No.5622919
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5622919

>>5622917
>Tilt++

>> No.5622928

What the fuck is the point of demos?

>> No.5622935

>>5622770
ROMEROD.com

>> No.5622940

>>5622928
Mappers find them useful for player feedback

>> No.5622951

>>5622928
A clever, nifty invention to show your playthrough of a map by recording all your inputs, and storing them in a small file. Back in the 90's, capturing a video file of your computer was fairly out of the question/cumbersome, and the resulting file would likely be too large to distribute easily.

It is also used as evidence of speedruns, since they attest to the program not being modified at all.

>> No.5622986
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5622986

>>5622896
Also, why can't I pick up anything from ammo boxes? I press Use on them, but it just makes them dance around. It's definitely not that my inventory is full, as you can see.

>> No.5622989
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5622989

psst...

>> No.5622995

>>5622986
Your pockets can be full from other shit.
There's also an old version where ammo boxes and bulk grenade spawns were glitched and failed the inventory check too soon.

>> No.5622997

>>5622809
Paddocks music is better anyway.

>> No.5623000

>>5622995
I'm using the latest version from the git though. And I highly doubt that my pockets are full, this is barely starting E1M1...

>> No.5623005
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5623005

Holy shit why is zdoom's documentation for shit so bad.
What are the bare minimum requirements to have a functioning .ipk3?

>> No.5623012

>>5622928
Speedruns and FDAs.

>> No.5623024

>>5622758
halp pls :[

>> No.5623038

>>5622995
>>5622896
+Adding to this, what is the recommended Encumbrance setting? I have it at the 0.25 default right now.

Is there a way to revert to the old functionality of "shaking up" weapons on the ground for ammo instead of picking them up? Or are we stuck grabbing weapons and manually stripping them for ammo?

>> No.5623040

>>5622896
>Do you always start with the Liberator in your loadout, since you can't find it out in the wild? Or do you use the mod that sometimes spawns full Liberators instead of Plasma Rifles?
I don't really bother with the lib, the ammo's really heavy even if it's great at penetrating walls.

>Do you often keep a shitton of magazines, or do you only keep a handful and drop the rest?
A few on hand, a few in the backpack in case of a drought.

>When incapacitated (drop to the floor), is the only way to get back up to use a stimpack and wait like 40 seconds or so? Or can I do anything else?
You can fumble for other items. A berserk will spring you right back up on your feet.

>Is the Slayer (double barrel shotgun) obsoleted once you find a Hunter (regular shotgun) that has semi-auto or even full-auto fire select?
Matter of preference. Cycle failures when using the hunter set to auto are annoying.

>And any other minor tips you wish you had known when you started, I guess. I'm loving it, but I'm in the dark to a lot of its nuances.
Apply chainsaw to corpses to gib them and help keep them dead.
Use your derp's ability to hit switches and open doors liberally. Ping it to ambush mode before triggering it to keep it from wandering off or being attacked.
There's more you can do with an invulnerability sphere than picking it up.
You can get a rough estimate of how damaged a vulcanette is from the message when you pick it up. Note that dropping them causes some damage.

>> No.5623046

>>5623040
Thanks so much for this. Specially for the chainsaw tip, did not even think to try that.

Would you happen to know what I'm doing wrong here by any chance? >>5622986 And if you could address these too I would be very grateful >>5623038

>> No.5623051

>Tweed did a Sigil video
Holy shit I did not see this coming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXAPBl7RyGE

>> No.5623060

>>5622916
I don't get it... Is quake 2 usermaps not popular or something?

>> No.5623065

>>5622919
Yes.

>> No.5623082

>>5622928
Attract mode. It's lively and adds flavor.

>> No.5623084

>>5622928
they are a versatile powerclass and pretty much the other half of the core of a sixes team

>> No.5623106

>>5622914
I've never even played a single player map for Q2, that game was all mp. You could try these though:
http://www.quake2.com/awoq2/
http://www.3dgamersedge.com/

>> No.5623118

>>5622634
>Baphomet

Wait, who was he? Why couldn't I fight her? Only just a weak spiderdemon and the overused cyberdemon.

>> No.5623131

>>5623118
That’s another name for the Icon of Sin.

>> No.5623135

>>5623005
>that pic

fucking lmao
Why not just take off the fucking horn?

>> No.5623139
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5623139

>>5621323
UV is insanely hard. It's definitely one to play on HMP first.

But I think Romero knew what he was doing.

I'm impressed he got that much mileage out of just the Doom 1 roster.

>> No.5623141
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqh-2fTkyW4

The only SIGIL review that matters.

>> No.5623145

What is Sigil's best soundtrack?

>> No.5623148

>>5623145
I found the midi to be more fitting if you're playing it as a continuation of the original episodes. The Buckethead tracks are good though if you're just doing it as a standalone episode and don't care about consistency.

>> No.5623152

>>5623139
Romero still knows how to be a dick with level design.

>> No.5623163

>>5622809
The first level theme has Romero in the title, I think its' safe to say that was written especially for SIGIL

>> No.5623169

What the fucking hell "demesne" means? Or "Abaddon"? Such weird titles.

>> No.5623171

>>5623169
>The Hebrew term Abaddon (Hebrew: אֲבַדּוֹן Avaddon, meaning "doom"), and its Greek equivalent Apollyon (Greek: Ἀπολλύων, Apollýōn) appear in the Bible as both a place of destruction and an angel of the abyss.

>> No.5623176

Preacher is an amazing wad but hearing "bollocks!" every time you press use to look for secrets is super annoying.

>> No.5623180

>>5623169
A demesne is a property owned by someone.

>> No.5623202

>>5623005
I come to 4chan to laugh at all these sperglords. this shit is gold.

>> No.5623212

>>5623169
'Abaddon' is hebrew - personified abyss or annihilation.

>> No.5623214

>>5623051
hahahahah this guy really hates romero's cheese and troll focused nature

>> No.5623217

>>5622989
wanna buy some meatballs

>> No.5623220
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5623220

What's some weird official Doom merchandise?
This snowboard even has unique artwork not used anywhere else.

>> No.5623251

If Marveller did in fact quit making videos, somebody should archive everything he has up so far, if not, even trying to make videos similar to his works.

>> No.5623257

>>5623220
>son of phobos
>there's a eternal related theory that the night sentinel are located on phobos, since mars shows up
>even the helmet here is green

>> No.5623262

Have any of you tried Four Site and is it any good?

>> No.5623265
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5623265

How the fuck do you jump up here?

>> No.5623272

>>5623265
>How were you supposed to know you had to jump on top of the goombas?

>> No.5623278

>>5623265
walk through hte window on the left

>> No.5623285
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>>5621660
Hellcore 2.0


Speaking of which, Top 10 WAD Soundtracks guys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnlFOdrv0ho

>> No.5623286

>>5623278

I can't, I just fall into the moat

>> No.5623287
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>>5621838
best part of 1.1 is that the USB drive is USB so you can just add it onto it.

>> No.5623289

>>5621660
Chainworm Kommando is worth having, it's not long but it's comfy.

>> No.5623290

>>5623046
>>5623040
>>5622986
>>5622995
Nevermind, I figured out what I was doing wrong.

Apparently, to pick up ammo boxes (rockets, shells, 9mm, etc), you need to grab them while you're using your backpack, and THEN drop the ammo from your backpack to your floor so you can grab it yourself out of backpack mode. A bit cumbersome, not sure why Matt chose to do it that way

>> No.5623291

>>5623286
Bind strafe left and strafe right to something. Then approach the jump at a diagonal angle while holding strafe and you go faster than normal

>> No.5623293
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5623293

>>5623286
get some momentum and run from here to here

idk if it doesnt work

>> No.5623295

>>5623135
Then how do you honk the gas out, idiot?

>> No.5623297
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5623297

>>5621660
Also Dark universe Pt. 1
If not because it's one of my favorite maps, but just the raw unfiltered ATMOSPHERE Of that map.

>> No.5623310

>>5621348
>>5623139
>>5621836

UV is effectively nightmare iN SIGIL and Romero has all but admitted to this.

Also
>I'd second this, played the first ashes and it was fantastic. Great soundtrack, gunplay and atmosphere. Hard mode made ammo insanely scarce though. Is there a second episode or a fan continuation or am I forgetting something?

Ashes is fucking amazing and easily one of my favorite things to come out of Doom.

>>5621852
Carmack is a quintissential nerd, but around that time both of them were hitting the gym pretty hardcore. Source: masters of Doom

>> No.5623321
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5623321

Sigil support is at a pretty good spot in Wadsmoosh.

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5623328

>>5623293

Absolutely no luck. How the fuck did something this bad make it into Level 2?

>> No.5623336

>>5623321
Nice.

>> No.5623337

>>5623328
works for me

>> No.5623342

>>5623214
I'unno, seemed to be pretty positive for one of Tweed's videos, he's a pretty critical dude.

>> No.5623346

>>5623321

So midi wise, the Roland SC-55 pack (and a Roland SC-55 soundfont for Sigil until that gets a proper pack) is a good way to do Vanilla Doom Soundtrack. Now with Sigil having an alternate music pack, it obviously doesn't flow with the rest of the midi tunes. What's a good instrumental sound pack for Doom1/Doom2/TNT that would compliment the Buckethead soundtrack in Sigil?

>> No.5623351

>>5622896
>Do you always start with the Liberator in your loadout, since you can't find it out in the wild? Or do you use the mod that sometimes spawns full Liberators instead of Plasma Rifles?
Liberator's fairly common actually, it's on chaingun, plasma rifle, and sometimes backpack spawns (as well as occasionally being found inside backpacks). You'll never find the non-bullpup variant without putting it in your loadout, but I'd say the bullpup model is better anyway. The high weight of the gun and its ammo makes it pretty niche, so it's good to be able to stick it in your backpack and not have it weighing you down while you clean up trash with more common weapons.

>Do you often keep a shitton of magazines, or do you only keep a handful and drop the rest?
Just keep enough ammo for two or three reloads of each of my guns on hand. Around two or three times as much stored in a backpack once I've got one. I'll stack my pockets as deep as possible before exiting a level, since I can just drop most of it at the start of the next.

>When incapacitated (drop to the floor), is the only way to get back up to use a stimpack and wait like 40 seconds or so? Or can I do anything else?
Press firemode once you've pulled out a stimpack to cycle through your options. There's also an exploit you can use to deploy DERPs, HERPs, or use your fists while downed. Cycle through all available items until you're back to nothing on the screen, then hold Fire or Altfire and press 1 repeatedly to punch or use the lunge. You might need a dedicated bind to deploy robots while downed, I've never done it myself.

1/2, out of characters

>> No.5623365

>>5623139
>I'm impressed he got that much mileage out of just the Doom 1 roster.
Using all the monsters in the first game, and not just restricting yourself to some for one episode, you can actually do quite a lot.

Another example is Double Impact, it's an E1 replacer which uses all of Doom 1's monsters in its levels, and it's definitely one of the best single episode replacers for the first game.

>> No.5623370

>>5623257
Doom 1 Ep1 is on Phobos dude.

>> No.5623371

>>5623139
not that he had to wrap his head around it too much. there were no variations, no in-betweens, no options for creative combat ensambles or getting crafty with enemy placing in Doom 1. it's one boss monster, one tank, one mid tier ranged enemy, and one option for hitscan that hits *really* hard. and the player is stuck with a shotgun for most of that.

>> No.5623383

is there any proper way to deal with the red key trap in plutonia map03? i've never known what to do being immediately trapped in a tiny room with a baron and arch and i always feel like i just survive it by sheer luck

>> No.5623391

>>5623370
i know but someone once pointed out some mountains in that night sentinel footage resembling the kdidt skybox

>> No.5623396

>>5623328
run diagonally into the window.

think when you're trying to charge at a door irl to bust it open, you don't do it head on. you back up a bit and run into it shoulder first. same principle for running. you run diagonally, like a cartoon character.

once you reach the top of the stairs, open up the secret wall to your left. it should lead you to a secret with a blue armor vest in it. don't forget to grab the red key before walking into the teleporter

>> No.5623413

>>5622896
>Is the Slayer (double barrel shotgun) obsoleted once you find a Hunter (regular shotgun) that has semi-auto or even full-auto fire select?
Slayer is more like a highly powerful sidearm while the Hunter is a low-end primary weapon. It's particularly good for ensuring the deaths of marines and ninja pirates (the full-size pinkies that fake their deaths). The Hunter handles small groups of zombies and imps extremely well.

>And any other minor tips you wish you had known when you started, I guess
Shoot enemies in center mass to score critical hits that deal significantly higher damage.
The tripwire function on frag grenades is best used by sticking the gum directly on the wall of a closet that's going to open, rather than running the tripwire parallel. It'll immediately trip the grenade as soon as the wall opens, rather than when the monsters come out and have already gotten away from the grenade before it explodes.
If you obtain a 7mm reloading machine or a Liberator, you'll automatically reload as many rounds as you have the resources for during intermission between maps. If you've finished a map and have a lot of brass and loose 4mm, just hit the exit to save yourself a lot of time.
Utilize the autorun toggle. When walking, your aim is far more stable than running and you'll continue to regenerate health without having to stop entirely.
When you're severely wounded and incapable of normal movement options like sprinting or jumping, you can still use the crouch slide and fist lunge to maneuver yourself to safety.
The radsuit will protect against imp fireballs and cacodemon lightning in addition to damaging floors. Balefire, guns, and other sorts of impacts like revenant fireballs or melee attacks will still fuck you up and destroy the suit, so take it off if you're expecting such threats.
Popping a stimpack before a berserk pack will greatly reduce your withdrawal period when berserk wears off.
Jump to hang up ladders higher than normal.

>> No.5623415 [DELETED] 

>>5621280
Why you fags hate hl so much?

>> No.5623421

>>5623415
Fuck off trying to start a flame war faggot. Both are great games.

>> No.5623428

How the fuck do I set a proper quicksave in gzdoom without it prompting me to click Y if I want to overwrite

>> No.5623435

>>5623428
bind key1 "save save"
bind key2 "load save"

>> No.5623436

I wanna make some cool levels. How do I get started? I've never made a level before.

>> No.5623438

>>5623396

Just spent another ten minutes trying this. Just can not get in that window at all.

Am I being trolled? Was this bullshit a thing in 1994? When were pixel perfect precision jump/runs a thing in Doom?

>> No.5623445

>>5623428
you can disable the confirmation part under miscellaneous options
or just do what >>5623435 said

>> No.5623448

>>5623438
>Am I being trolled?
I hope this is bait, I really do.

>> No.5623459

>>5622896
When dropping from a high place, put your weapon away, crouch, and then uncrouch as you fall. You can handle longer falls better when unarmed, though sometimes it's better to just deploy a ladder.
Speaking of ladders, when you reach the top of one, turn your view around as this can help you get onto the ledge easier.
You can gib corpses with your bare hands, just hold reload to keep throwing the distracting punch, this can take a few punches but it does work. Useful for making sure marines stay down and you have no chainsaw.
When second fleshing, hit the play dead key and lay on the floor, this makes second flesh work way better.

>> No.5623463
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5623463

why though

>> No.5623473

>>5623459
actually you hold the sprint key to drop off from high places.

>> No.5623485

>>5623448

Ok I've done it. Apparently there's a run button that a never knew about before.

>> No.5623491

>>5623473
I just put my weapon away. Very rarely do I use the sprint key, I'm too much of a fatboy because of all the shit I'm carrying

>> No.5623492

>>5623485
>don't check the game's controls
>get angry and call bullshit

>> No.5623493

>>5623485
LMAO
use always run

>> No.5623494

>>5623438
Turn Always Run on you mouth breather

>> No.5623501

>>5623485
lmao I love you guys

>> No.5623514
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5623514

>>5623459
>>5623413
>>5623351
>>5623290
>>5623040
>>5622995
Again, thanks so much for all the advice.
What I'm struggling with the most at the moment is inventory management I think. As long as I'm not in a red number (to the bottom left), I'm okay right? Or should I try to stay below a certain weight number no matter what?

I'm using the default 0.25 encumbrance setting.

>> No.5623521

>>5623514
>carrying that much shit
anon you might have a hoarding problem.

>> No.5623529

>>5623521
You should have seen me earlier, this was after throwing out a fuckton of things.

So should I always stay in the green numbers or what?

>> No.5623532

>>5623529
It helps for mobility when you need it, but it's not really necessary to carry all of the weapons. Especially the boss rifle and a blooper when you already have a rocket launcher, the blooper is obviously really light but it only holds one grenade at a time.

>> No.5623535

>>5623514
why do you have the boss rifle on
that thing's only good for ammo stripping

>> No.5623560
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welp thats that

>> No.5623568

>>5623485
> dsp plays doom 2

>> No.5623573

>>5623514
you don't need that many weapons on you at all. think more about which ones see the most use, if you're carrying a vulcanette then you most probably won't ever need the brontornis for taking out heavy targets if they're slow enough. use up all its ammo (preferably on barons) and then discard it. lose the ZM66 while you're at it. grenade launcher also. you have a rocquette launcher. *maybe* keep the liberator.

you don't need two pistols either. neither a revolver. maybe keep the SMG just in case, that's enough. stock up on those pistol rounds to refill your mags. voila.

>> No.5623576

>>5623560
>rip and tear
Sad to see Romero use nu doom phrases

>> No.5623580

>>5623576
who cares.

>> No.5623581

>>5623576
>how to out yourself as a newfag: the post

>> No.5623583

>>5621931
This. You can't make lightning strike twice like that. There's a very clear distinction between intentionally cheesy and cheesy unintentionally. I love the fuck out of cheese and 80's action flicks, but I don't think I could ever do them justice as I am now as just a fan. I'd have to look at everything they did, the mindsets they were in at the time, and their methods, but all I could end up making is an imitation of a genuine effort, not a genuine effort. If I did, it'd be a product of it's time, my environment, and so on, just like the originals were.

So if anything, them making a memey as fuck sequel would be the only way it'd end up because that's exactly what kind of shitty, plastic fucking era we live in. Everything's fake and trying to imitate other shit.

>> No.5623584

>>5623568
WOOOOOOOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW HOW TO RUN??

>> No.5623586

Oh boy. Time to pay 10 bucks for midis converted into mp3s, everybody.
Fucking Romero. Just pay Jimmy yourself and then GTFO. How about that?

>> No.5623587

>>5623514
The default 0.25 encumbrance setting is rather forgiving and you'll pretty much be fine as long as you stay in the yellow. Red is when you start taking severe movement penalties. If you want to lighten the load, drop some of those redundant weapons like the Boss rifle and the grenade launcher. Your weight is better allocated to just a sidearm, one or two primaries, and a boss killer, and the rest can be used for ammo or inventory items. You can even forego the boss killer most of the time because maps don't tend to place tough enemies without also providing adequate firepower to handle them in the same map. A rocket launcher by itself with no additional ammo provided is already enough to handle two cyberdemons, three masterminds, or six barons.

Also, you have a total limit on pocket space, indicated by the bar in the bottom-left corner, but it doesn't display accurately for any encumbrance setting except 1.0. Once that was implemented, I just adapted to playing on 1.0 all the time. It's not too hard to get used to, the numbers are easy to remember. 400 is how much you can carry before any penalties are applied, 800 is when things get bad, and 2000 is a hard limit where you become barely able to move at all and can't pick up additional weapons anymore. The limits are increased by around 200-300 units when you pick up a soulsphere/megasphere or drink a potion. Pocket space is hardcapped at 600 units. Your backpack's 1000 units of space become way more valuable when it's almost twice what you can carry on hand and you can instantly drop it as one item when you need to move fast.

>> No.5623595
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5623595

>release 'stable' versions
>still expect everyone to build from the latest commit

Are GZDoom devs and modders this retarded?

>> No.5623597
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5623597

>>5623576

>> No.5623613

>>5621359
tangentially related but I really wish more people truly understood the concept of 'self awareness'. maybe then we'd stop passing awful modern comedy for genius work on the basis of
>but anon, they KNEW they were TRASH!!!

>> No.5623619 [DELETED] 

>>5623613
Dude can't even afford a hairdcut. Pay up.

>> No.5623624

>>5623576
> doom comic is nu doom
tell me how to time travel

>> No.5623649

Ok, anons. Tom Grindberg. The guy who inked and colored the Doom comic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Grindberg

I just want him do draw more Doomguy. Can't be impossible, right?

>> No.5623653

>>5623649
Durpalurp. Don't know if he colored it but whatever. Draw more Doomguy, guy.

>> No.5623663

>>5623576
The comic is older than you are.

>> No.5623667

>>5623586
It's not the same music.

>> No.5623675
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5623675

how did they expect you to deathmatch here when it's so damn cramped

>> No.5623689

>>5623675
Romero played against himself when he made that. Only needs room for one person. Not like anyone else plays DM.

>> No.5623694

>>5623689
That's not Sigil.

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>>5623694
Shit.

>> No.5623697

>>5623321
Upload this exact wad

>> No.5623701

>>5623328
Are you sure you have autorun turned on

>> No.5623702

>>5623328
What? Are you even running?

>> No.5623705

>>5623701
>>5623702
he just found out.

>> No.5623721

>>5623328
From a design standpoint it's teaching you that this is how "jumping" works in this game.
Just hold down shift, anon. You'll move faster.

>> No.5623743
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>> No.5623748
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5623748

or with fit to screen

>> No.5623749

>>5623743
so what is this mod? You show it off constantly.

>> No.5623752

>>5623586
what the fuck

>> No.5623754

>>5623749
Doom Radys

>> No.5623757
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5623757

>divorced before new year
>dad had a stroke last Tuesday
I must have chosen nightmare when I was born

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5623761

>>5623576
Romeros writings in the text screens and manuals were always written in a campy edgey manner. God forbid he include the fan slogan

>> No.5623776

>>5623321
Please upload this WAD, comrade

>> No.5623778

>>5623667
He's doing some shill thing on twooter

>> No.5623784

where does SPIKED KNUCKLES come from

>> No.5623786

>hates quake 2 and half life
what other fps games this board doesnt like?

>> No.5623794

>>5623784
Dad gave them to you before you went to space

>> No.5623797

>>5623786
No one hates half life cept 1 autist

quake 2 I can understand, it's meh compared to 1

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>>5623749
It's Doom Radys, made by Toooooasty who contributed to the JPCP megawad. It's a gameplay mode where you choose different anime girls to play as, including Yuki from the melancholy of haruhi suzumiya, Sayaka from Madoka magica and Rena from Higurashi. Along with other OC characters like C.Kid depicted here, he is still working on updates for it as i'm playing an early alpha he released back in December although he has released earlier finished versions right now only a few characters from the earlier version has been implemented but the infamous cyberdog from an early version. It's a neat little gameplay wad that has more beefed up monsters like Arch viles that will instantaneously dash through the map, barons and hell knights having four arms and their fireballs will freeze you, zombiemen spawn other undead enemies and arachnotrons will climb up onto the ceiling to shoot at you from above and many more.
here is a link to one i have been playing but although some things have not been implemented yet not sure when the next update will be released
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eysyrykgjpn7hx0/DRadys_earlyalpha0.03.pk3?dl=0

>> No.5623813

How do you play Action Doom 2 in GZDOOM?
I get an error that says:
Script error, "action2.wad:CASINOD" line 1:
Script error, "action2.wad:CASINOD" line 1:
Tried to define class 'Symbol' more than twice in the same file.

>> No.5623814

>>5623051
No clue who this guy is but he has some interesting games on there. Neat!

>> No.5623815
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>>5623757
>lost job immediately after Christmas break, laid off with no warning or reason provided
>just learned that I can't get a government security clearance due to living in a foreign country for a few years
>almost all jobs in my area require one, wasted a month waiting for said clearance to start work on a job that I already got
>obviously got let go from that job too
>no friends except ones who live literally several days drive away
>no family except drug addicts and crazy people
>obviously no romance of any kind
>car's power steering is broken, brakes nearly broken
>only 6 months of Employment Insurance left
I'm sitting here in my late-20s after having done everything right wondering where it all went wrong. Never got into drugs, got good grades, got a job, still ended up jobless and alone because the world likes taking a dump on people. Shit happens, play doom. It'll get better or you'll die, then it's not your problem.

>> No.5623818

>>5623813
Try an older version of GZDoom

>> No.5623820

>>5623818
Ok' I'll try that

>> No.5623821

did all the 90's shooter follow a formulaic release pattern?

Cus they all seem to have 2 official expansions each.

>> No.5623824

>>5623757
>>5623815
Nice blogs, faggots

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also my OTP of doom characters is C.Kid x Evil eye-chan.

>> No.5623826

>>5623757
well.... is it better to have loved and lost or what?

virgin here.

>> No.5623828

>>5623815
Was life any better when you were abroad?

>> No.5623834

>>5623821
Two expansions are for the very popular games, or for those with a very dedicated playerbase.

>> No.5623841

>>5623828
Absolutely. All memes aside the USA is the fucking best place to live on earth hands down, and now that I'm not there anymore I have significantly less opportunity, pay, and general happiness. I would literally surrender every cent I have and item I own for an american citizenship. I'm that confident that I could get it all back, and that it would be worth it.

>> No.5623850

>>5622758
Looks like Town Infection

>> No.5623857
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5623857

>> No.5623858

>>5623857
What's this?

>> No.5623864

>>5623858
Looks like HXRTC, it's a clusterfuck randomizer.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=48074

>> No.5623869

>>5623841
Sounds like you should look into getting a green card and/or work permit then. Work yourself up to getting a citizenship. Nothing to lose, right?

>> No.5623871 [DELETED] 
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5623871

Lol fucking seriously? How was this NSFW?

>> No.5623872

>>5623583
>>5621931
I feel like the last thing to work at being "so bad it's good" is Tails Gets Trolled and most shitty webcomes because you can't tell if they're legitimate.
But once something cringy gets "self aware" the spark is gone.
And then you have stuff like BL2 and Dream Dadddy trying to be "ironic" and use forced meme humor and it's just bad.
I wonder if it has something to do with today's ironic humor, that in someway related to 2013 Shrek jokes and MLG montage parodies.
Meanwhile, most people couldn't tell Starship Troopers was satire back in the day.
It feels like something can't be "silly for fun" unless it's telling the audience about it in the most blatant way possible.

>> No.5623873

>>5623871
Nips

>> No.5623874

>>5623841
>break ankle
>thatll be $10,000 plus tip please
>LAND OF THE FREE

>> No.5623875

>>5623869
Literally impossible unless you work for an american company or get refugee status. I know all about the immigration system in the states my dude. You don't just get a green card or work permit, especially not if you're not from an absolute trashfire of a country. You cannot work your way up to citizenship without first getting into the country, and you can't get in *legally* without getting a job, and you can't do that unless you're a 200IQ genius double PhD specialist or work for an american company who will transfer you. Regardless of the rhetoric you may have heard, your borders are locked very tight, I assure you.
>>5623864
Well shit I guess I'll try it. I was hoping it was a more rebalance-y thing.

>> No.5623878

>>5623871
what the fuck are the mods doing? Chill mods.

>> No.5623881

>>5622319
I always wondered why Bethesda stoppde doing these digital Doom collections, then i remember most of them (not just bfg edition) either fuck up things in one way or another or don't do actual meaningfull shit to the point a switch port would be the opportunity to find a way to get Doom 64
>Sigil
I mean, it depends on how Romero's relationship is with those companies, compared to Carmack's
Whether or not they care that people spent money on it
And the licensing considering the artwork from Lovell and Buckethead/Jimmy's music

>> No.5623884

>>5623873
Oh wow that's hilarious, I didn't even notice. I guess I should have slightly cropped. Still ridiculous to get banned for that in a fucking DOOM general where you blow shit to bits with blood and limbs everywhere.

>> No.5623886

>>5623871
nipples.

>> No.5623887
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>>5623875
Alright. I just like thinking that things can work out no matter what. Also I'm not 'murican. Just pulling stuff out of my ass here.

>> No.5623891

Now that the dust has settled and we can all safely admit Sigil is trash.
Will Doomworld give it is worst WAD of the year award?

>> No.5623892

>>5623887
Yeah no biggie dude. Surely I can get out of groceryland eventually.

>> No.5623893

>>5623875
easy to get in for Mexicans though, am eastern european ameriboo trying to get in myself, have American family but its still very hard, my family all got green cards from the lottery in the 90s, every single one of em, lucky cunts

im thinking either enroll in a uni then go through work and travel bullshit or find a desperate American girl on okculid to marry me

>> No.5623895

>>5623884
cartoon nudity isn't the same as cartoon gore, as silly as that sounds. there's no equivalency.

>> No.5623902

>>5623875
>Regardless of the rhetoric you may have heard, your borders are locked very tight, I assure you.
Horse shit, we have millions of illegals here. You're a law abiding dude, and I respect that, but having tight admissions and a tight physical border are two different things.

>> No.5623903

>>5623871
>admitting to ban evading

>> No.5623904
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>>5623881
Romero just sold one of those Doomthesda figurine sets on his store for a ridiculous. I don't know if he's skating on thin ice deliberately or what but shit's hilarious. John Trollero.

>> No.5623908

>>5623904
*ridiculous price

>> No.5623912

>>5623903
yeah and?

>> No.5623914

>>5623903
>hdoom

And nothing of value was lost.

>> No.5623916

>>5623902
I did somewhat imply that I meant legally, but you have a fair point. A lot of the rhetoric I heard was dealing with people becoming legal. That shit just isn't even one tenth as easy as the average american thinks because they've never done it and most media lies about how it works.
>>5623893
Free advice, if you go to university it's going to cost you an arm and a leg so don't waste that time. Get as many internships as physically possible before going onto your extended work permit which continues from the F1 visa. If you don't have at least one job offer before your graduation date you've probably fucked up. Marriage is probably a no-go unless you hate yourself or are very lucky.

Anyways this is getting very off topic. Let's stop.

>> No.5623917

>>5623874
It's not better in countries where we have 'free' healthcare, trust me.

>> No.5623919

>>5623912
lol so tough

>> No.5623923
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5623923

So What Episode 5 map do you guys like most? I like E5M5 the best

>> No.5623924 [DELETED] 

Honestly, it's not hard to evade a ban, janny :^)

>> No.5623926

>>5623904
I mean, they existed long before Bethesda and Zenimax owned id

>> No.5623929
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>>5623912
>>5623924
>hdoom poster
>is chronically butthurt

Hmm yes I see

>> No.5623931

>>5623926
Sure. And that's what makes it funny. Not often you see Zenifucks taking the shaft.

>> No.5623939

Can we stop the shit flinging? There are several boards that are for inane arguing, we dont need a fight every thread

>> No.5623942

>>5623904
I don't have the full set, but I consider myself lucky to have some of the original pewters with the id software copyright on the bottom, before the prices of them skyrocketed.

>> No.5623945

>>5623929
I mean, I didn't even play HDoom. I was downloading a bunch of wads and I was just wondering if it was even worth downloading. I've seen worse shit in OP images stay up or hours. I think it's funny is all. And I guess I'm a little butthurt too.

>> No.5623947

Anyone have a pack of WADs that are must-have essentials?

>> No.5623949

>>5623947
OP does

>> No.5623952

>Delete every single reference to willpower in Hexercide
>It still runs fine
>Will power still showws up in menus
>still works
very confusing

>> No.5623958

>>5623952
If the mod is using ACS, it's probably still there in the compiled ACS code which you can't edit without recompiling

>> No.5623960

>>5623949
Yeah but I mean there's like hundreds of them in that Google Drive torrent. Wasn't sure if there was a smaller one that has mostly the more important ones but it's ok if there is none. Would rather just get a smaller pack.

>> No.5623961

>>5623826
>is it better to have loved and lost or what?
if you want to remember every night how nice it was while crying to sleep, yes

>> No.5623964

>>5623945
I remember that pink bunny link with his butt on display staying up for days

>> No.5623968

>>5623958
Mmmm guess so. Just wanted to see if I could port willpowers regen to con like in the current WoC. I'll look into what you use to compile it tomorrow I guess.

>> No.5623973 [DELETED] 

>>5623872
Irony is what lead to SEGA turning Sonic's social media presence to gamerbro pandering, the /pol/dditfuxation of vapor/synthwave, and gave Sham Shite a career.

It (probably) also gave us Lil Peep so maybe it ain't all that bad.

>> No.5623974

>>5623960
Well, try this. >>5621660
More of a map than a pack but you know how to follow a map, right?

>> No.5623978

>>5623872
Irony is what lead to SEGA turning Sonic's social media presence to gamerbro pandering, the /pol/dditfuxation of vapor/synthwave, and gave Sham Shite a career.

It (probably) also gave us Lil Peep and the new wave of doge so maybe it ain't all that bad.

>> No.5623979

>>5623961
Anon is offering you his virginity. Something to make you feel better.
Made you smile.

>> No.5623982

>>5623974
Thank you Anon

>> No.5623986

I downloaded a bunch of WADs and I would like to have it be in the GZDoom launcher. Is it possible to have it appear in the GZDoom launcher or do I have to drag-and-drop the WAD files over the .exe file?

>> No.5623991

>>5623986
use ZDL

>> No.5623996
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5623996

so what do you guys listen to while mapping?
my podcast feed is dried up at the moment

>> No.5624000

>>5623979
dinner first

>> No.5624001

>>5623968
As long as the ACS source is still there in the mod, you only need to right click > script >compile acs on the correct file after adjusting it. Changing up complex ACS isn't something you do without prior knowledge though

>> No.5624002

>>5623986
https://zdoom.org/wiki/ZDL

>> No.5624006

>>5622819
seething

>> No.5624008
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>>5623996
The sounds of the super shotty.

>> No.5624012

>>5623991
>>5624002
>ZDL when Rocket Launcher 2 exists
Why

>> No.5624014
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>> No.5624017

>>5624008
Hail Benellus!

>> No.5624024

>>5624008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSd0pI1EQGk

>> No.5624028
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5624028

>some crazy motherfucker took Term's MIDI mod and racked up the number of songs to 800

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=54096
I don't really care for some of the additions but this is neat.

>> No.5624034

>>5623850
Thank you doombro

>> No.5624035

>>5624028
i like kinsie's variants

makes OBLIGE playthroughs less painful

>> No.5624038
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>>5624028
>Billy Idol

>> No.5624039
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5624039

Are there any mods / wads that focus on boss fights?
Am looking for mods where bosses have unique mechanics, their own dedicated maps and music.
Preferably quite difficult. Until now I've only been playing LCA and I really enjoy the legendary fights.

I can only think of the SuperDemon, but it focuses entirely on online gameplay and needs at least two players, because one of them transforms into the boss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka_eS1o3Q40

>> No.5624071

>>5621305
there's that doom 2 rpg chick but was she a good character?
still, we need crash in eternal or something

>> No.5624104

>>5624039
Pro Doomer has boss fights.

>> No.5624109
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>> No.5624115

>>5624071
Why the FFFFFFFFFFFFFF isn't she in Champions? Crazy.

>> No.5624120

>>5624115
>no crash
>but we get boring blue hair chick

>> No.5624121

Dooooooooooom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYVWRjvjCgM

>> No.5624124

>>5624115
>>5624120
And no Phobos.

>> No.5624127

>>5624121
This always reminds me a lot of Caleb when I hear it.

>> No.5624132

>>5623139
UV is only hard if you pistol start it

>> No.5624134

>>5621323
>tfw Romeo made everybody his bitch with with his UV insanity

>> No.5624136

im playing in gzdoom, and former human corpses block all movement for some fuckin reason. anyone have an idea why it'd do this?

>> No.5624137
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5624137

I don't know why this hasn't happened yet but I have a million-dollar Doom idea

>Roguelike
>Procedurally generated levels
>10x different variations of monsters
>RPG Leveling up system
>Low-poly mode like Quake

I swear to God it would sell like hot cakes. Why hasn't it happened?

>> No.5624138

>>5624136
what mods do you have loaded?
> none
are you in freeze mode trying to walk up stairs?

>> No.5624139 [DELETED] 

FF7? Jarpig shit. MGS? Moviegame shit. Half Life? Corridor shit.

Why was fifth gen so garbage?

>> No.5624140

>>5624137
We already have DoomRL
and also you can play DoomRL arsenal+monsters on OBLIGE maps


Also fuck you Kornel release Jupiter Hell already I CANT WAIT

>> No.5624141

>>5624136
Smooth Doom?

>> No.5624149

>>5624137
That was Strafe, it was shit.
>>5624140
Is infinitely better.

>> No.5624150
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5624150

This is such a fucking cool level. A UAC facility merging with Hell. Neat texture work and geometry. Fucking A+.

>> No.5624152

>>5624028
how do i skip to next track?

what console command?

>> No.5624153
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5624153

>>5624138
smooth doom. that's it. have it set to strict doom compat mode, nothin else really.
>>5624141
i take it this is a common smooth doom problem?

>> No.5624154

>>5624153
Ye. Seems it doesn't play nice with infinitely tall monsters enabled.

>> No.5624156

>>5624152
you can bind those in the menu

>> No.5624160

>>5624137
As the other anon said, Strafe was a disaster and convinced me procgen is shit in FPS. There's a new procgen game called "Void Bastards" thats more warmly received though.

>> No.5624164

>>5624137
Sure, great. Just find someone who can whip up a good level generator and you're golden.
Easy! EZ PZ! Or not, apparently.

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>>5624139
go back to /v/

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>>5624154
odd. i guess i'll turn that setting off then. thanks bud.

>> No.5624170 [DELETED] 

>>5624165
Stay mad hl faggot

>> No.5624175

>>5624168

oh for fucks sake it's acting up even with infinitely tall actors turned off. what the hell.

>> No.5624176

>>5624170
See u later alligator

>> No.5624186
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>>5624175
Nani the fucking shit? Well damn. Dev knows about it at least. Could be anything

>> No.5624189

So how's Oblige? Is the software ok? And how about the generation of the levels?

>> No.5624190

is there a mod with carmack and romero as the protagonists?

>> No.5624194

>>5624189
See for yourself. Some people like it.

>> No.5624197

>>5624190
Massmouth 2 has Romero and Carmack in it, the former as the main antagonist, and the later as a whole species of small versions of himself that live in a village.

>> No.5624202

>>5624186
not sure, seems kinda intermittent. good the dev knows about it though, mod is superb outside of this issue. appreciate you informing me of the mod being the culprit.

>> No.5624203

>>5624197
that sounds incredible lmao

>> No.5624206
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5624206

What are the differences -- if any -- between the "leaked" version of SIGIL and the "official" release that just came out?

>> No.5624208

>>5624189
Pretty good, especially with some addons.

>> No.5624212

>>5624028
any way to just get the track files seperately to listen to?

>> No.5624213

>>5624206
there's a 1.1 release that fixed some bugs like being able to shoot the eye switches in a way that would close them off without activating the second trigger that opens progress
the leaked one also has the buckethead tracks while you'd have to pay for them to get them with the official release

>> No.5624218

I made a patched version of Sigil for GZDoom and ZDoom. It no longer replaces the title and credits pictures, neither the intermission and title music (and a couple minor changes).
I also added some .ini files, You can open them with notepad and copy-paste its content onto your .ini file in the (G)ZDoom directory.

It essentially makes it so every time you load Doom using (G)ZDoom, Sigil is instantly loaded as well. (The WAD needs to be inside the directory of the source-port)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r7isnbrpo96fzya/SIGIL-Simple.rar?dl=0

>> No.5624224

>>5624212
you could open the thing in SLADLE and take them out

>> No.5624225

>>5624218
can I use this with wad smoosh?

>> No.5624230

>>5624213
Is it possible to get the 1.1 version running with the Buckethead music?

>> No.5624232

>>5624213
So if you just download the official download it'll play... what? The default Doom music?

>> No.5624235

>>5624230
Yeah, the Buckethead tracks are in a separate file that you load after the mapset.

>>5624232
There's a MIDI soundtrack included, courtesy of Jimmy.

>> No.5624242

>>5624225
It doesn't right now. wadsmoosh is designed for official releases, as far as I know and Sigil is unofficial. Gotta wait and see if it's updated for Sigil.

>> No.5624246

>>5624039
Invasion mapsets tend to have bosses at the end of their stages. They're usually meant to be fought by multiple players at a time, though, so you might get your shit kicked in.

>> No.5624249

Does anyone know how to install DoomRL Arsenal + Monsters? I'm really confused as the main page for DoomRL Arsenal doesn't have a guide on installing it.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044

>> No.5624253

>>5624189
Considering all the settings you can fuck about with, you're bound to find a way to play you'll like. I recommend an RPG-type mod, like Doom RLA with it.

>> No.5624257

>last two OP posts have had bare titties with no issue
>anon get banned for posting another pair in the thread
Why are jannies so inconsistent?

>> No.5624259

>>5624242
oh I see, I hope it does get updated, maybe to support other wads too

>> No.5624261

>>5624249
The fastest way to do it is to highlight both files, then drag them onto the doom exe

>> No.5624268

>>5624257
>crash abs
no nipples, those are shadows

>bassilissa pic
no nipples to be seen

>> No.5624278
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5624278

I'm playing through doom 1 and 2 on UV for the first time (I've played them before, just never committed to properly finishing them) and they're kind of confirming something I always assumed about them having played a multitude of other older shooters, that non-arena encounter design and a focus on conserving resources actively punishes aggression and offers considerable incentive to play slowly and methodically to get the most out of your resources.

The first three episodes weren't really any problem at all, but E4 has had a few levels that are absolutely horrible about being outright trial and error, E4M2 being essentially impossible unless you know through trial and error to jump down, grab the radiation suit in the lava you can't see from above and pick up the shotgun ammo up the staircase behind you, E4M6 offering you two lava moats to get into the keep, one leads you immediately to a radiation suit and one doesn't and both are clogged with enemies you don't know are there while your health is bleeding dry

From what I can tell Doom 2 is a lot better about this though, the super shotgun does a good bit to stop "sitting at a vantage point firing your shotgun at a baron of hell for 20 seconds" and ammo is more plentiful.

>> No.5624285

>>5623396
You don't need strafe running for that

>> No.5624292

>>5624261
Thank you so much. Do you know how to use an Oblige created map with both those files? I am assuming you throw it together with the oblige wad right?

>> No.5624305

>>5624235
If you have the Buckethead music file in the folder can you still choose between which soundtrack you want in the Options or whatever?

>> No.5624308

>>5624006
go to bed.

>> No.5624310

>>5624305
Just don't load sigil_shreds.wad and it'll play the MIDI tracks.

>> No.5624319

>>5624292
You just add the wad to them, yes.

>> No.5624330

>>5624028
There's an SNES jukebox with 1199 songs
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=861064#p861064

>>5624035
Made an edit of Kinsie's floppydisk to include only Doom related tracks
https://files.catbox.moe/nrp97r.pk3
Includes:
>Doom 1
>Doom 2
>TNT
>STRAIN
>Requiem
>Memento Mori 1 & 2
>Hell Revealed 2
>Eternal Doom
>Hell to Pay/Perdition's Gate
>Icarus
>Whispers of Satan
It plays At Doom's Gate about 90% of the time for Doom 1, no idea why

>> No.5624331

>>5624308
you sure you're on the position to ask him that?

>> No.5624332

>>5623814
He's an alright dude, reviews some cool old games that barely anybody remembers and probably has the best SS1 video out there.

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>> No.5624350

>>5624310
OK, thanks.

>> No.5624356

So the best way to setup SIGIL is to download the leaked version and replace the WAD file with the official released version, but keep everything else? Is this correct?

>> No.5624360

>>5624225
>>5624242

Wadsmoosh is being updated, You can look at the commits and see that they're working on adding Sigil support, but there's no proper release yet.

>> No.5624380

I am so confused. So I got all the Classic IWAD Doom files however GZDoom is not finding the Master Levels for Doom 2. How do I access them?

>> No.5624390

>>5624380
You need to run it alongside the DOOM2 iwad and then it's selectable as a new chapter iirc.
If you want to make your life easier just use wadsmoosh and put everything together into one wad.

>> No.5624402

>>5623923
You just mentioned the best one. I also really like Cages of the Damned.

>> No.5624403

>>5624390
Oh shit I see each level is its own WAD in the directory of Master Levels for Doom. Wow that was weird.

>> No.5624419

Is there a new version of the "gore only" mod for Brutal Doom to go along with v21 (I think the old one was "ketchup mod" or something)?

>> No.5624426

When loading custom WADs do you know which version it belongs to? Whether it belongs to Doom 1 or 2 or does it matter at all?

>> No.5624427

>>5624419
Bolognese

>> No.5624432

>>5624427
Did a new version of that come out to match Brutal Doom v21?

>> No.5624438

>>5624432
Yeah

>> No.5624449

>>5624426
99% of wads are for Doom 2 because it has the SSG and more monsters. If a wad is for Ultimate Doom it'll specify in its readme file.

>> No.5624465
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>>5623587
>>5623573
>>5623535
>>5623532
>>5623521
>>5623514
Well, finally made it through Episode 1 with Hideous Destructor, on Hideous Difficulty. And I set the encumbrance factor to 1.0.

Is this the equivalent of completing basic training but in HD? Goddamn it was a ride. And I want more.

>> No.5624467

>>5624438
Cool. I'll have to go looking for that now then.

>> No.5624472

>>5624465
see? ain't that much better? just keeping your inventory nice and tidy, no clutter or useless guns on you.

>> No.5624484

>>5621280
Does anyone have HD versions of the wall of faces from Doom or the bloody skull texture? Like big enough to use as a wallpaper? (In 16:9 ideally.)

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>>5624465
You seem to be in the early stages of acute HD addiction

Just kidding, its already too late

>> No.5624505

>>5624472
>>5624486
Even though I dragged my way to the end, I feel like I'm extremely noobish still, like I'm playing it wrong. There are so many little details I don't really understand yet. I guess that prospect of learning is exciting though.

>> No.5624524
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>>5621323
This, I even played it on UV and I gotta say it's probably one of the best map packs I've played in years.

People are just pissed off because it's not a slaughterwad. Zdoom and it's fucking community has poisoned Doom and has made everyone think that the game should be about getting the BFG and taking on every mapper and their mother's take on nuts.wad. So when a wad that punishes you for not paying attention and rationing your ammo comes out, they throw a shitfit because it's not like 90% of the other maps made in the last 25 years.

I hate defending romero but holy shit it's hard not to when "why aren't there enough rockets to kill all the monsters :(" shitters pour out of the woodwork at something remotely challenging

>> No.5624531
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What is my favorite Doom mod and why is it the mod currently known as H****** D*********?

>> No.5624532

>>5621348
The thing is: I think the only way to play Sigil is on HMP first because you need the secrets in order to ration health/ammo appropriately for UV. You can only realistically find the secrets on HMP.
I don't think that was a mistake on Romero's part.

>> No.5624538

>>5624531
yes the Heavy Dongus mod, my favorite.

>> No.5624540

>>5624538
no it clearly stands for hilarious didgeridoo

>> No.5624542

>>5623202
thats 420chan, my friend

>> No.5624548

>play Sigil with hardware lighting
>i-it's too dark!
really really?

>> No.5624554

>>5624524
I think the issue is the reputation doom has gotten in the past few years is that of a fast as hell game where you're circle strafing around some big bad demon filling him with lead and the focus is on evasion and shooting, not some kind of survival horror-esque thing where if you dive around corners instead of filtering enemies as they walk down a hallway single file you run the risk of getting instantaneously perforated by shotgun guys and on certain maps if you waste more than a few shots you're straight fucked.

I think there are a lot of people out there that don't associate that slow dungeon crawler-esque gameplay with doom anymore.

>> No.5624556

>>5624532
No. Play on UV you pussy. It's fun to die over and over. It's actually a challenge

>> No.5624559

>>5624556
>it's fun to die over and over, it's actually a challenge
in a game about rationing supplies is it fun to just die halfway through the level because you couldn't have conceivably known you had to spend your ammo in a highly particular way later on?

>> No.5624560 [DELETED] 

FREE ANON

WHO GOT UNRIGHTEOUSLY STRICKEN DOWN BY A TRIGGER HAPPY MOD

FREE THE TITTY

FREEDOOM!

>> No.5624561

>>5624548
I don't know why gzdoom doesn't just detect what version of opengl your computer supports and set the lighting to software if it can.

Most people always play with "dark" just because it's the default, which is super shitty.

>> No.5624563

>>5624559
Yes.

>> No.5624571

>>5624563
I don't think so because there isn't really anything useful learned from the experience. It's just "oh, I would've had to use pure guesswork to see those 8 barons coming and now there's nothing I can do to kill them, guess I'll try again or some shit"

>> No.5624583

>>5624548
I like the 'Dark' renderer myself, makes things moody.

>> No.5624587

>>5624556
I do play UV, but only after I beat HMP and memorized all the secrets so I could ration my ammo and health.

>> No.5624590

>>5624583
Doom's the one for me. Not too dark, not too bright.

>> No.5624591

>>5624559
I'm at the end of E2 and I have died only when it was a moment where it was a trap, not because I didn't have enough ammo. Doom aint hard even on UV, it's not easy but it's certainly not that hard. Don't be a pussy

>> No.5624603

>>5624591
E2 or Sigil? We're talking about Sigil.

>> No.5624607
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5624607

Jesus Christ alien vendetta
that's a lot of skellybones

>> No.5624613

>>5624554
>>5624524
>I think there are a lot of people out there that don't associate that slow dungeon crawler-esque gameplay with doom anymore.
given where doom was going before the bethesda buyout it's honestly for the best that people associate doom as more of a run & gun romp.

i don't think doom would be as popular as it is now if things were more slower paced.

>> No.5624616

>>5624603
Oh I thought you'll was talking about Doom in general. My bad carry on then. I'm working up to sigil but probably going to do it on HMP first since I trust Civvi on that one.

>> No.5624619

>>5624613
I have a different take on it. Doom is a canvas of which people paint their ideas for first person shooter puzzles/gimmicks on it.
Doom 4 wasn't struggling because it became slower paced, it was struggling because no one knew what the fuck to paint on said canvas.

>> No.5624627
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Anyone up for some Sigil Deathmatch?

Server Name: [TSPG] Exciter: /vr/ Friday Night Sigil DM

Password: johnromerosbitch

>> No.5624628

>>5624619
>I have a different take on it. Doom is a canvas of which people paint their ideas for first person shooter puzzles/gimmicks on it.

I agree, at this point Doom can be whatever the fuck you want it to be
Just look at the extremes like Demomsteele and Hideous Destructor

>> No.5624629

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HPLLvgG5tc

My favourite track from Sigil.

>> No.5624637
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5624637

Sigil the way it's supposed to be played, without all those capitalist pigs.

>> No.5624641

>>5623917
It's better if you know which doctors are good and which aren't, and word of mouth reaches a long way.

>> No.5624643

Does Delta Touch have better mod compability than Freedoom/Gzdoom-Android?
I don't really want to spew a dollar if it isn't any more compatible than the free alternatives

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>>5624560
I tried getting fairly unbanned to no avail

>> No.5624646

>>5624189
use OBHack - adds crapton of assets and allows you creating new ones, for much better level generqation.

>> No.5624650

>>5624627
Anyone?

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>>5624645
>shit thread regardless
sir, I am offended

>> No.5624654

>>5624643
Yes. It uses later version of GZDoom (3.4.1 stable and 3.8+ devbuild)

>> No.5624661 [DELETED] 

>>5624645
Why do trannies hate doom now?

>> No.5624664

>>5624661
The only people who hate doom is /v/

>> No.5624670

so Centaur. second most common enemy in its game. spends 50% of its time complete invincible
why
theyre making the game much less fun because they just kill pacing as i have no choice but to wait until its my turn like its a fucking rpg

>> No.5624673

>>5624654
does it works with most major mods like DoomRL, Guncaster, and HnD? I'm sold if they do.

>> No.5624674

so what version of GZdoom do you generally stick to?

getting the latest one is messing with Vanilla Essence randomly

>> No.5624675

>>5624650
I would love to but I'm really tired and have to wake up early, best of luck

>> No.5624676

>>5624673
IDK. I'll try and test em later if you want

>> No.5624685

>>5624676
Sure anon, I'd be grateful!

>> No.5624693

Here's fancy Doom effects when they aren't being used by a Russian dipshit. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Iem9ufCDagaqIZ0hRi8w0GnqEE4iGIfP/view?usp=sharing

>> No.5624701

>>5624675
np. I'll just set another one up tomorrow some time earlier.

>> No.5624702

>>5624674
I'm using the latest one and Vanilla Essence is not messing up at all.

>> No.5624704

>>5624645
>expecting people who do it for free to be of any worth

>> No.5624707

>>5624674
i stick to 3.7.1 because my mods work with it and i don't need anything newer

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>>5624645
>this is what jannies think of us
not surprising

>> No.5624710

>>5624674
I've got a list from 1.something to 3.4.1 because fuck sticking to a single version, you're always screwed several ways doing that.

>> No.5624715

>>5621419
I use the sc-55 soundfont rn but sometimes sgm

>> No.5624718

>>5624674
the latest one

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>>5623923
e5m4. The one with the 3 paths.

>>5623996
I just find stream archives of some people. Jerma's are good, some of Vargskelethors are good.

>> No.5624731

What are some wads with good custom midis?
So far I've played through both Memento Mori wads and Requiem, most of the music on those is by Mark Klem and his stuff is pretty comfy.

>> No.5624738

>>5624731
Jenesis
>Ding!

>> No.5624746

>>5621283
Someone made an x64 executable for OBLIGE:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=64879

>> No.5624752

>>5624731
I've been playing Eviternity. It's got some really good Midis. Great levels to. Adds some new monsters and tweaks other monsters. Good stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sEkF2Aie3Y

>> No.5624758

>>5624746
That's pretty dope. Oblige levels are always fun. You can jump and crouch freely without having to worry about ruining the fun, or missing something essential. Just go at any way you like, since there's a million more levels where those came from.

>> No.5624761

>>5624746
Oh neat, no more having it occasionally crash during generation.

>> No.5624762

>>5624758
>its throwaway trash so its good

>> No.5624763

>>5619734
How about an (imprecise) enemy scanner? "Danger level" blobs on the map.

>> No.5624791
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>>5624685
They all work fine, obviously you'd have to set up bonus buttons on screen -
tap gear icon on top, then tap button below it.
That will open control settings
Press "show custom". You'd figure it out from there.
Control setup is sensitive to where you are when you press it, so pressing it in menues will set up control for menues, pressing it when you have Custom buttons opened will customise custom buttons etc.

>> No.5624796

>>5624738
Jenesis is great so far, thanks anon.
>>5624752
Eviternity is on my to play list, I saw it mentioned in the 2019 Cacoward thread about a million times

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>>5619734
>>5624763
or something like Warframe's minimap, maybe with red dots instead of arrows since enemy facing is not that important and may degrade performance.

>> No.5624804

>>5624762
>>its throwaway trash so its good
Not what I'm implying. The levels themselves are fun, regardless of how you play them. That wouldn't be the case if they were throwaway trash. There's a reason I've beaten at least a couple hundred Oblige levels. However, because they are so numerous, and generally similar in style, you're not missing out on much by taking full advantage of things ZDoom and other ports offer in terms of mobility or mods. What you miss one map, you may see in another. You're not bound by an honor code to not jump or crouch like you might be with other mega wads. You can totally play by your own rules.

>> No.5624807

>>5624796
>I saw it mentioned in the 2019 Cacoward thread about a million times
I've been away from doom for a couple months, so I'm way behind the times, lol. I rarely play a mega wad twice, but just being on Map09, I plan to go through the whole thing again. It's got a really good DooM64-esque aesthetic. Some levels are a little confusing, but I've found most of the one's I've played flow like butter.

>> No.5624823

>>5624731
Icarus has a fantastic soundtrack. The maps can be hit or miss, though.

>> No.5624824
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For anyone here who is familiar with his music, what are some of buckhead's core albums? Sigil made me want to listen to more of his music but the dude has like 400 albums.

>> No.5624853

>>5624824
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnizl6qV1gVgOQ35Gec67YsRHUcYSAX_Q
Leave it on while you're doing other stuff.

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>>5621280
Please share your custom Hideous Destructor starting loadouts, familia

Be it optimized stuff or crazy challenge shit, go for it.

>> No.5624887

>>5624880
So many repost of my shitty edit. Whyyyyy

>> No.5624891

>>5624887
cause people like it?

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>>5624853
thanks

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>>5624880
I love this gun too much.

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>>5624891
Makes sense

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just finished sigil, played through UV
anyone else think the final level was really fucking disappointing
i just ran past the cyberdemon and spider since i thought you were supposed to use the invincibility on top of the exit but nope, just ends. even if i did fight them i don't think it'd be much more satisfying
6/10, nice soundtrack though

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>> No.5624972

>>5624964
Yeah, ending was disappointing. I'd also rate it a 6/10 or a 7/10. Not a bad rating. Above average, but not exceptional either.

>> No.5624982

>>5624746
Man, I could never get into OBLIGE. Like, the levels can be fun, but they lack the deliberate and purposeful ideas that a human can put into them. Usually results in levels that are highly samey and unmemorable.
And sure, some community mapsets can feel samey too (BTSX E1 had this as a common complaint in its beta days), but at least they still have deliberate design choices that give each map their own flavor and identity.

>> No.5624985

>>5624964
Yeah, M8 could've done more with its ending.

>> No.5624986

>>5624278
I want to hug Cookie.

>> No.5624992

>>5624982
Did you try any addons like ObAddon?

>> No.5624994

>>5623891
As someone who has been playing doom WADs for 23 years, I can safely say that SIGIL is one of the worst WADS I've ever played.

John Romero is a fucking moron.

>> No.5625008

>>5624524
>People are just pissed off because it's not a slaughterwad
I'd say it's more because it isn't fast-paced like Doom E1, which is what most fans think of when they think of Doom.
Also, I won't disagree that a lot of people are used to modern wads (which are faster paced), but not nearly as much of them are slaughter BFG-fests like you're implying.

>> No.5625014

>>5624967
>no more c kid drawings

>> No.5625020
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>>5625014
i'm never give up drawing c.kid

>> No.5625023

>>5624992
What does that do?

>> No.5625024

why do people complain about GDX having weird mouse aiming? I don't find any issues with it myself

>> No.5625029

>>5625024
Maybe they play with mouse acceleration enabled

>> No.5625031

>>5624994
Elaborate

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Your opinion on c kid?

>> No.5625040

>>5625034
Cute.

>> No.5625041

>>5625034
>doom community
>japanese
>kid
I just don't want to know.

>> No.5625054

>>5624994
Shitpost value: 2/10

SIGIL is a masterpiece.

>> No.5625084

SIGIL feels like John Romero experimenting with mapmaking, it makes me wonder if all of this was an exercise for another map pack celebrating Doom 2's anniversary.

>> No.5625087

>>5625084
It’s possible.

>> No.5625104

>>5625084
It's the anniversary in like 2 or 3 months?

>> No.5625106

>>5624731
Double Impact
TNT Revilution
Plutonia 2
Back To Saturn X
THT Threnody
Epic 2

>> No.5625108

>>5625084
Nah. He just wanted more eyes on him since he's doing some strategy thing with Paradox. Also he likes getting paid for minimal amounts of work.

>> No.5625109

>>5624731
Mutiny and Alfonzone, also.

>> No.5625115

>>5624880
Green armor, revolver, 300 rounds, a ladder and 12 grenades for room clearing and "recon by explosives"

>> No.5625116

>>5624708
But /r9k/ is unironically a shit board and Wizardchan is a vortex of AIDS?

>> No.5625120

>>5624308
are you coming with me? i love brutal anal play

>> No.5625127

Why is The Golden Souls so good?

>> No.5625152

While it had its tough moments, SIGIL honestly wasn't all that hard for the most part. I think It's just that some players are so used to run n gun gameplay of Knee Deep In The Dead and Skillsaw, that levels that require them to play more cautiously tend not to gel with their playstyle.
I loved SIGIL, but I can appreciate that it's not for everyone.

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Post new thread images

>> No.5625182

How to save map in normal form after editing in Slade? Map saved in a smaller size.

>> No.5625189

>>5625034
She looks like a weird kid.

>> No.5625190

New thread.

>>5625186
>>5625186
>>5625186

>> No.5625228

>>5624641
Doesn't help if they're all swamped with more work than they could hope to deal with in a lifetime.

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>>5624880
This one's been working really good for me. Slightly on the heavy side, but it's got everything you need. Slayer for close-range trash and making bullshit long-range shots, rocket launcher for blowing up big enemies, ZM66 for everything else.

>> No.5625843

>>5624964
I did level 9 after 8 and it was satisfying.

>> No.5625874

>>5625034
cacos are always cute

>> No.5625962

>>5625023
Adds new shit. its really cool

>> No.5626374

>>5624982
Oblige seems really ideal for rogue lite mods.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=64156&sid=dd6118be30dfde7f30482d67bcf874ff

>> No.5626417

>>5625034
I like shotas but what makes him interesting in the first place besides being a shota in a Doom mod?

>> No.5627047

what's the most vanilla source port I can use for Eviternity? I wanted to use Crispy but it's not compatible, and Doom Retro changes too much

>> No.5627405

>>5627047
Maybe Prboom plus? GZDoom with software mode and strict doom compat is pretty close if you still want to mod. Vanilla essence if you really want that chocolate/crispy feel in GZDoom.

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