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Is there anything else this good? I really don't think there is and it makes me sad as fuck.

>> No.5620809

No, theres better

>> No.5620812

>>5620804
I thought that game was painfully boring.

>> No.5620816

>>5620804
Have you played Avoid the Noid?

>> No.5620820

>>5620804
Terranigma

>> No.5620843

>>5620820
I heard this before, is it true?

>> No.5620883

>>5620804
Final Fantasy VI and V are both better games.

>> No.5620919
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>>5620843
Yes. In terms of gameplay, it's more of an Action RPG, but it has a great story and soundtrack too. The story takes some weird turns. Avoid spoilers and you'll be in for a hell of a ride.

>> No.5620926

I'm so happy that I haven't played this yet. I'm happy every time I see a thread like this.

>> No.5622852

>>5620812
Because it is

>> No.5622862

>>5620804
Unironically Earthbound. If you can imagine yourself as a kid again and put yourself in the main protagonist's head, you'll have a good time.

Dont buy it at meme prices though, emulate, flash flashcart or repro.

>> No.5622930

>>5622862

I'll accept this answer. Earthbound really is what everyone says it is.

I don't think any SNES rpg even comes close to touching Chrono Trigger, and I've never personally played a JRPG that does on any other system, either.

It's just the best you can do with the format.

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>> No.5623083
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>>5620804
Not many games compare to it for me. If you prefer more mechanical depth you might enjoy other RPGs more, but Chrono Trigger is perfect for what it is. I think I've replayed it more than any RPG besides SaGa Frontier.

>> No.5623853

>>5620843
Absolutely not.

>> No.5623862

im currently playing this
im about to return to antique with the epoch
absolitely fucking great game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcf_FBbIRpM

>> No.5624079

>>5620804
FFII (IV), FFIII (VI), Secret of Mana, Link to the past, Link's Awakening, Legend of Dragoon (PS1), Alundra (PS1), Phantasy Star IV (Mega Drive), FF Tactics (PSP/PS1) and yes I really enjoyed playing FFVII and still do (sorry).

The closest to originality, music, gameplay and epic story with multiple character arcs would have to be Secret of Mana, FFII & III, Legend of Dragoon, FFVII and Alundra though. Earthbound and Terragnigma are also good suggestions posted here. If you are open to PC retro gaming check out the original two Fallout games and Planescape: Torment (the best of the best for old school turn based RPGs back in the 90s).

>> No.5624084

>>5620804
GRANDIA 2 (Dreamcast version is best)
and Skies of Arcadia (Gamecube version is best)

You're very welcome.

>> No.5624094

>>5620804
Xenogears

>> No.5624106

>>5620809
/thread

>> No.5624108

Prove him wrong>>5623023

>> No.5624113

>>5620812
>I thought that game was painfully boring.
Came here to say this.

>> No.5624143

>>5620804

Play the other time travel-themed SNES JRPG, the underrated Live A Live.

>> No.5624159

>>5620804
Me too, OP. Thank you for not being a faggot, today.

>> No.5624239

>>5620804
Ff6, earthbound and terranigma
Ff5 isn't bad either, but not on the level of the above

>> No.5624245

>>5624239
How is EarthBound at all better outside of its meme status? How is Terranigma better, having completely different gameplay with just a Crono wannabe?

>> No.5624263

>>5620804
One of the few timeless j-rpgs, shit never gets old and the characters are always charming.

>>5620883
cringe

>> No.5624341

>>5624245
earthbound is more fun

>> No.5624348 [DELETED] 

>>5624341
>typical Starmen.net bandwagon faggot Opinion discarded.

>> No.5624349

Playing Chrono Trigger is a sacred event, you can't just pop it in and run through it like it's some sort of trashy action game you want to get a quick high from to deal with your ADD. And you can't compare it to any other jRPG because it's so unconvential and unique and perfect.

fucken retards

>> No.5624351

>>5624341
>typical Starmen.net bandwagon faggot
Opinion discarded.

>> No.5624352

>>5624349
>>5624263
>>5624245
see>>5623023

>> No.5624364

>>5624349
no, that is exactly what it is. Chrono Trigger was the harbinger of dumbed down visual novel-esque JRPG's.

>> No.5624379

>>5624352
Low-quality responses to claims that aren't mine? Okay.

>> No.5624401

>>5620804
Like...everything
Game wasnt even tolerable enough to finish

>> No.5624425

>>5624401
Did you get lost or something? NPCs exist for your benefit.

>> No.5624441

>>5624364
>dumbed down visual novel-esque JRPG's.
All JRPGs are worse at being role-playing games than Bethesdatrash. That's what happens when your entire genre is based on adding "new battle system!" and anime stories to Ultima 3 clones.

>> No.5624448

wrpg cucks should leave

>> No.5624452

>>5624441
it's always extremely fucking funny to me when wrpg fans try to talk bad about jrpgs because they "lack role playing capability"
buddy, wrpgs aren't any better, they only trick you into thinking that they are. anybody that's spent any amount of time playing actual tabletop pen and paper rpgs would laugh in your face.

>> No.5624459

>>5623023
>screencapped my own post guys check it out
lmfao so many bad opinions contained in one image i don't even know where to start

>> No.5624461

>>5624452
Wrpgs at least let me choose my level up stats and character builds

>> No.5624464

>>5624461
mile wide inch deep

>> No.5624475

>>5624441
Ultima games just needed better combat systems and cool characters, jrpgs did that and more.

>> No.5624480

>>5624461
>wRPG
>character creation screen
>analysis paralysis for 2hours
Fuck that trash, stop making me micro-manage everything in the game.

>> No.5624482
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5624482

>>5624475
>ultima doesn't have cool cha-

>> No.5624483

Was playing Blue Dragon today and it made me realize Toriyama’s involvement was probably a bigger attribute of Chrono Trigger’s overall quality than we gave him credit for.

Sure we deride him for the sameface thing but it’s not like the guy doesn’t design other cool-looking shit like machines. I think I took him for granted all these years, which I won’t anymore.

>> No.5624498

>>5624483
part of growing up is realizing that toriyama's actually an extremely good artist. i'm proud of you anon

>> No.5624503

>>5624480
>I don't like choices! I can't make them! I need the game to make them for me!
I think /v/ might be more your speed, buddy.

>> No.5624506

>>5624461
good jrpgs allow you to do that too

>> No.5624779

>>5624503
managing individual stats is boring, it's just another form of gear/skill requirement that bogs down gameplay.

>> No.5624805

Chrono Trigger is so ridiculously easy that I don't see a reason to play it more than once.

>> No.5624825

>>5624094
eh... this game deserves its legendary status, but if you really look at it, it is flawed as hell. it is just way too ambitious for what the PS is capable of, and probably for what the devs were capable of.

>> No.5624831

>>5624503
I legit thought you were describing Chrono-Trigger there. It's a great game, and the very peak of the RPG-on-rails that Square is famous for, but it remains an RPG-on-rails. I cannot believe people play more than one game like that in their lifetime.

>> No.5624843

When did you guys first take the all-JRPGs-are-overrated-pill?

>> No.5624858

>>5623023
this post is pseudo-intellectual bullshit. Greentext kid is right, but he just sucks at explaining himself. just because someone has weak arguments doesn't mean their point is wrong. the truth is the truth, whether you can explain it, or not.

attention to detail is not empty words. this is literally the judgment of whether or not the creators paid attention to small details in their work. stuff like Crono's mom waking him up, at the beginning, the caveman dance party, or the campfire scene are probably what the kid is talking about. these elements are not exciting, don't advance the plot, and don't give the player anything to do. But, they are there to make the characters and the world they inhabit feel real. they provide context for later events, and give the game a wider emotional spectrum.

shitting on someone for having a "hot opinion", when the question is "why do you like this game" is hilarious

moron does not distinguish between Story and Plot. I think Greentext meant to say CT has a great Plot, because the story is kind of generic. but the actual events, the twists and turns, the unique characters and the ways they interact and collide are actually quite good. And the general feel of a wild, rollicking adventure is not one that many games convey. most games are grimdark as fuck. CT stays as cartoony and exciting as its art style. Which is wise, because super serious games, like FFVI are embarrassingly undercut by their own cartoony graphics

>> No.5624865

>>5624461
Wrpgs are about player agency. which often means wandering around, wasting time on bullshit or trying to figure out how to advance the plot.

Jrpgs are about structure. there are scripted characters and a (mostly) scripted plot. the story and characters are more memorable, but the experience is very passive.

some people have different tastes. Personally, I love stories and interesting characters. I like Wrpgs, too, but aimless wandering and paper thin characters always leave me cold.

>> No.5624872

>>5624483
I don't think you can appreciate his art in modern Dragon Ball Z, but if you look at his artbooks, or his stuff for the original Dragon Ball, prepare to have your mind blown. this guy is a genius, with a very specific style. Yes, CT owes a LOT of its style to Toriyama's art

>> No.5624875

>>5624843
Never because im not a seething westcuck.

>> No.5624876

>>5624094

What should have been CT 2 in fact.

>> No.5624879

>>5624805
did you like it? then play it again. did you not like it, or maybe you play games so you can check them off your list? then don't play it again.

Personally, I like easy games, because I can replay them and get to the fun parts, without having to grind my teeth on the boring or hard parts

>> No.5624884

>>5620804
CT's fatal flaw is that it's too easy. It's just that that fatal flaw is buried by the perfect art, graphics, story progression, music, sound, mechanics, and replayability. There's certainly nothing else like it.

>> No.5624890

>>5624843
there are a few people on this board who I think are only here to start shit. how you can hate on unassailable games like Chrono Trigger is beyond me. I can get not loving the game. people have different tastes. but hating it? that is bullshit.

and, anyone who uses the words "overrated" or "pretentious" is DEFINITELY full of shit

>> No.5624929

>>5624884
true bro, constant and utter bliss makes the worst fucking games

>> No.5624936

>>5624884
This, and Chrono himself looks like a gigantic Hawaiian Punch looking dork and a disproportionate amount of the narrative revolves around his dull non-character.

killing him off was beyond genius

because of that alone, CT's scenario design proves to be the gem of the gaming world and makes up for its chore-like combat

>> No.5624950

>>5624884
>too easy
I remember playing CT when I was a junior in high school and talking to a couple seniors who were playing it, they said the only problem is its too difficult.

I thought the difficulty was just right for its length and scope. You're supposed to feel powerful playing jrpgs, if you constantly get your shit pushed in like in dark souls or encounter mind-bending puzzles in every dungeon it ruins the pacing of the game and the sense of heroism.

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>>5624805
Reading Dune is easy but I enjoy it and have re-read it a few times.

JRPGs are interactive stories you take part in with worlds and characters to explore and choices to make. They don't need high difficulty because they have plenty of content to dive into and engage with.

If you want constant explosions and fast action then there are games better suited for the ADD zoomer crowd, those games need difficulty because they are so shallow and don't have much going on, i.e arcade games.

>> No.5625514

>>5624858
>super serious games, like FFVI

>> No.5625535

>>5623023
exceptionally low-IQ post
>>5624108
grow a brain fag. That post is garden-variety shitposting deluded into thinking it isn't. It's fucking embarrassing.
The only not-stupid part is where he refuted the gushing about "mofo time traveling."

>> No.5625661

>>5624483
>>5624872
Classic Dragonballbhas some really fun and intricate artwork ad designs running throughout the entire series. The animation for the ending theme alone is more interesting than the entirety of dbz.

>> No.5625747

>>5624245
Idk how anyone could say terraenigma is better than either ct or eb honestly, its a realy cool game but its just... a really good looking button masher? With cult status... not even in the same league

>> No.5625926

>>5620804
any non jarpig is better than this non game

>> No.5625935

>>5625926
cope westcuck

>> No.5626407

>>5624239
>Ff5 isn't bad either, but not on the level of the above
I think it's better, but it's quite different and better in a very different way so to get something like CT and possibly better I think you're correct with your 3 mentions.

>> No.5626548

>>5624483
>Sure we deride him for the sameface thing
>we
Not everyone is a shitposter like you, anon

>> No.5626835

Trigger niggers are the worst fanbase.

>> No.5628165

>>5620804
Planescape: Torment, Fallout 1 & 2

>> No.5628170

Chrono Trigger is kind of like baby’s first RPG. Very simple systems, easy battles, just much going mechanically...but good music and visuals to make up for it.

>> No.5628176

>>5626548
oh my bad, I must have hallucinated all the archive/Google results where people talk about it

>> No.5628194

>>5628170
>game is too easy, very simple
not a big deal desu, just means you're a gaming God. How did you get so good? Can you share some low-level boss fight video of yours...you DO have those don't you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkyssTEWlHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U87Gc_tZGCM

>> No.5628437

>>5622862
Earthbound has a cool world and story, but it's too tedious to actually play.