Why do people on this board act like BoF2 is worse than BoF1?

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Anonymous Wed May 29 21:19:21 2019 No.5618457 [Reply] [Original]

Why do people on this board act like BoF2 is worse than BoF1?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 21:21:49 2019 No.5618463 Off the top of my head I'm gonna say the translation and because the dragon system is legit the worst in the series.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 21:21:55 2019 No.5618464 >>5618457 They both suck. Who really cares which is a bit more boring than the other?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 21:23:44 2019 No.5618473 1 and 2 are shit

Anonymous Wed May 29 21:45:38 2019 No.5618549

>>5618457
1 has a stronger sense of progression where we're always moving from set piece to set piece against a larger unifying foe in the Dark Dragon clan. 2 has you running around like a ninny for most of the game without much of a central binding goal.

2 had a far worse dragon system and the translation didn't help either. And no the retranslation doesn't improve things.

2's dungeons are a pain in the dick and you're always backtracking places. You get a warp spell sure but that's small concession in the face of generally poor pacing.

Kattfag. A shit poster so dedicated he made it impossible to discuss this series anyways.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 21:56:56 2019 No.5618562 File: 77 KB, 675x1200, katt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5618457 Not sure. I like 1, but I've always considered 2 better.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 21:58:01 2019 No.5618564 >>5618457 the real question is why people pretend games like BoF1, BoF2, Secret of Mana and Earthbound are great

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 21:58:35 2019 No.5618567 >>5618473 Nope, colorful graphics and challenging gameplay. Only problem is the encounter rate, but mods and/or fast-forward fixes that.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:00:35 2019 No.5618571 >>5618564 The last is forced meming and the first three are nostalgia

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:02:16 2019 No.5618576 >>5618564 Because you couldn’t even come up with criticism

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:02:30 2019 No.5618578 >>5618564 Because they genuinely like them

Anonymous Wed May 29 22:29:34 2019 No.5618636

>>5618549
>stronger sense of progression
But a generic plot and weaker story than II, and worse characters

>dragon system
I's wasn't too impressive to begin with, just a new sprite and boosted stats, and also the shaman system is the closest thing to its replacement rather than Ryu's transformations, which have a canon reason for being weaker

>dungeons
Improved in every way from the first game

>Katt
Is a miracle of the universe

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:31:27 2019 No.5618642 >>5618457 Why has BoF become such a target for shitposting? It's such an inoffensive series outside of the cancer that is Kattfag.

Anonymous Wed May 29 22:42:02 2019 No.5618656

>>5618636
>But a generic plot and weaker story than II

II had no story till the last second of the game where they go ABLOO ABLOO DESTINY and some asshole rebels nobody actually gives a fuck about. And none of the character had any reason to be anywhere outside of some vague nakama bullshit. Most of them stick around for literally no reason when by all logic should really just fuck off to their own business. 1 had a constant war where the Dark Dragons were everyone's problems.

>Improved in every way from the first game
Infinity called and said you're an idi *random battle* ot.

>>5618642
Kattfag.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:47:03 2019 No.5618664 >>5618656 >no story literally the first ten seconds your home town gets retconned, and Patty shows up during the first arc

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:53:37 2019 No.5618675 >>5618457 contrarianism

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:58:27 2019 No.5618685 >>5618664 >literally the first ten seconds your home town gets retconned, and Patty shows up during the first arc Then the entire middle is a fuck load of nothing.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 23:06:31 2019 No.5618697 >>5618642 In this particular thread, its one autistic furfag

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 00:57:41 2019 No.5618895 >any BoF game >best girl is the one who isn't Nina Why is this?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 03:17:52 2019 No.5619167 >>5618895 There is an iteration of Nina in every game of the series and her personality is roughly the same for all of them except two and dragon quarter. She's awful for the same reason the girl next door is aweful. Familiarity breeds contempt.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 03:42:42 2019 No.5619181 1 lets you change party members in battle 2 doesn't

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 05:43:41 2019 No.5619320 >>5618567 None of what you're mentioning are relevant to them being garbo or not.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 06:35:12 2019 No.5619381 2 is my favorite. Get the retranslation by ryusui and you're in for a treat.

Anonymous Thu May 30 07:27:55 2019 No.5619461

>start BoF3
>early game, Bow/Bosch leaves your group
>running around Solo
>Died 20 times to those raging bulls, maneaters, bees and other trash mobs
lol wtf
everything was two shotting me
Now I'm okay, got my group together but the start was really rough

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 07:53:29 2019 No.5619507 Karn is cool and fuck Katt

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 09:24:18 2019 No.5619591 File: 125 KB, 640x757, timeline.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what happened to the series after 4?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 09:27:32 2019 No.5619594 File: 9 KB, 185x185, Puka.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5619181 1 only has four party members

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 10:02:27 2019 No.5619649 >>5619591 Dragon Quarter was a great game in itself, even if it was not Breath of Fire. What killed off the series was the long wait after, just to get the shit sixth entry.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 10:57:17 2019 No.5619695 >>5619594 The first time I beat BoF 1 I didn't found any fusion. The idea to talk to NPCs with characters other than Ryu didn't cross my mind.

Anonymous Thu May 30 11:01:30 2019 No.5619698

>>5618567
>Only problem is the encounter rate
That can easily be remedied by NOT equiping the Collar accesories on Katt, Sten or Bow, as the game never tells you they are cursed items that increase the enemy encounter rate.
You might want to use them when farming for enemy drops, but that's it.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 11:16:14 2019 No.5619721 File: 156 KB, 980x550, diversity is strength.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bump

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 11:17:16 2019 No.5619724 >>5619698 >That can easily be remedied by NOT equiping the Collar accesories on Katt, Sten or Bow, as the game never tells you they are cursed items that increase the enemy encounter rate. wtf gonna test this

Anonymous Thu May 30 11:29:48 2019 No.5619741
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>>5619721
What's the max number of shaman fusions you can bring along in a single party?

>every damn character needs either dark or holy shaman to fuse into their best form
>this asshole needs BOTH OF THEM

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 11:35:17 2019 No.5619751 >>5619741 0 since you get defused in the middle of the last dungeon anyway. By the way 3 of 6 shamans are only available right before that dungeon.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 12:54:07 2019 No.5619947 File: 19 KB, 480x360, hqdefault (5).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] who is your favorite NPC? mine is Torubo for sure.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 13:07:46 2019 No.5619986 >>5619591 what's the deal with BoF1 Ryu's scar? i remember the king of Camlon acting like he knew something about it

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 13:13:07 2019 No.5620006 >>5619947 >dude here's a 1v1 boss battle after a 20-minute cutscene sure hope you knew to grind one of the most useless party members to a high enough level that you can get past it lmao FUCK YOU

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 16:11:20 2019 No.5620518 File: 785 KB, 774x955, BoFI_Ryu_Artwork.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5619986 It's a sick dragon tat

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 19:09:42 2019 No.5621068 >>5619751 >not walking back up every time it happens to refuse Git gud

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 02:39:56 2019 No.5622129 >>5619741 You can have all 3 with shamans if you have the right combos. I don't know if bow works with those though. I usually have rand katt and nina, and spar has a bunch, so he can usually fit

Anonymous Fri May 31 02:48:59 2019 No.5622147

>>5622129
>>5619741

There used to be a handy chart online that showed combinations, but I can't find it. Of the top of my head bow-devil/holy, sten-fire/wind, and rand-earth/water would work. I think spar has an earth/water too if bow and rand are too similar for you

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 02:50:41 2019 No.5622150 >>5619594 There's also mogu, but who the hell would use him over bleu, nina and puka

Anonymous Fri May 31 03:16:39 2019 No.5622202
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>>5619947
I think petape is my fav.
Bof2 is my favorite game of all time, but a lot of the criticisms are warranted. I get why people don't like it. It bugs me when people recommend the fan translation though. The original doesn't hinder the game at all and it still has charm. The fan translation is cringy as fuck with everyone losing their personalities to talk like teenage boys and references and memes everywhere

Anonymous Fri May 31 07:10:41 2019 No.5622453

>>5622202
>recommending the original over the translation
this is a first.

>lose their personalities and talk with memes and references
I haven't played the original but their personalities seem very lively and charming in the translation.

i.e
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeCndn6Tp84

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 07:13:18 2019 No.5622454 File: 14 KB, 474x365, sell me this pen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5622202 >Bof2 is my favorite game of all time How come? sell me Bof2.

Anonymous Fri May 31 08:06:18 2019 No.5622506

>>5622454
I don't try to sell people on it, but I like simple RPGs like that (ff4 is my fav ff). I like the character designs, the world, the stories and situations, the sidequests that aren't too many or too few. It's not really quantifiable, I just like it the most. Bof4 is amazing too though

To address the complaints itt, the encounter rate is pretty high, but I think I don't mind because I love the animations and just chilling out in the world. The dragon system is the worst though since they ate just spells

Anonymous Fri May 31 12:28:20 2019 No.5622996

I don't get how anybody uses Katt in battle. Extremely low defense and a worthless secondary skill is already a death-sentence for her in a game where enemies often hit extremely hard, but everything else for her is just unimpressive that nearly everybody else does better. I'd rather just use Nina or Bleu.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:36:14 2019 No.5623016 Both are shit, no one actually cares

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 13:43:58 2019 No.5623154 >>5622996 Dat end game fusion with the guaranteed crit skill tho

Anonymous Fri May 31 16:35:44 2019 No.5623642

>>5622202
same, it's my favorite game but i acknowledge its big flaws, especially for today's players. petape a cute indeed. I loved every character arc and their respective NPCs.

>>5622453
in this video the new translation doesn't add anything of value. on the contrary it's too talkative and it sounds like nerdy humor. maybe the original text was like that but i doubt it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 16:45:14 2019 No.5623673 >>5623154 You mean the one that takes two turns to set up?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 20:34:19 2019 No.5624287 >>5623642 >party members too talkative and have nerdy humor that's a good thing, nerd.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:38:46 2019 No.5624469 >>5623154 >>5623673 Yeah, her skill isn't worth it imo, but if you set her up in a more defensive formation, her attack makes up for it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:33:25 2019 No.5624903 >>5618457 They are both mediocre. Bof1 moreso because it's kind of a barebones game, and bof2 because the script is probably the worst thing any RPG has ever dropped in my lap and called it a "translation."

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:43:25 2019 No.5624924 File: 2.46 MB, 719x1999, 1556976350282.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5624903 Why do people bring up the translation of BoF2 in particular when BoF1's is just as bad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:06:21 2019 No.5624957 >>5622202 >>5623642 how do you even decide what your favourite game of all time is? Don't you have extremely close competitors that make the choice really hard?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 13:44:39 2019 No.5626404 >>5624957 it's often an adventure game that you played in your childhood, when everything felt bigger and new

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