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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5614459

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:

IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)

Doom RPG series

Launchers for Build Engine games



Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/








>> No.5617996 [DELETED] 

=== NEWS ===

[5-28] METADOOM has moved over to Zscript, SIGIL supported

[5-28] New LTG beta release

[5-27] Quake 2 RTX Release date in June 6

[5-26] SIGIL has been leaked, check the links in the OP

[5-23] Chex Quest 3 has been re-released officially

[5-22] SIGIL is shipping

[5-21] Redemption Of The Slain is getting a no BD version

[5-21] Cyrgoth's Manor -a 7 Level Hub FOR Hexen has been released

[5-19] Unbeliever, heretic megawad has been released

[5-18] BuildGDX update with FOV slider and other fixes, now supports Duke Nukem

[5-16] REKKR updated to v1.16

[5-15] GZDoom 4.1.2 released

[5-12] Quake 1 sounds remastered

[5-10] Nightdive's BLOOD remaster released

[5-9] Sigil delay entirely on the disk

[5-7] Two more Quake map jams, SM196 and Map Jam X

[5-5] GZDoom 4.1.1 released

[5-3] Introducing SM195, seven Quake speedmaps made in 24 hours

>> No.5618004

=== NEWS ===

[5-28] METADOOM has moved over to Zscript, SIGIL supported

[5-28] New LTG beta release

[5-27] Quake 2 RTX Release date in June 6

[5-26] SIGIL has been leaked, check the links in the OP

[5-23] Chex Quest 3 has been re-released officially

[5-22] SIGIL is shipping

[5-21] Redemption Of The Slain is getting a no BD version

[5-21] Cyrgoth's Manor -a 7 Level Hub FOR Hexen has been released

[5-19] Unbeliever, heretic megawad has been released

[5-18] BuildGDX update with FOV slider and other fixes, now supports Duke Nukem

[5-16] REKKR updated to v1.16

[5-15] GZDoom 4.1.2 released

[5-12] Quake 1 sounds remastered

[5-10] Nightdive's BLOOD remaster released

[5-9] Sigil delay entirely on the disk

[5-7] Two more Quake map jams, SM196 and Map Jam X

[5-5] GZDoom 4.1.1 released

[5-3] Introducing SM195, seven Quake speedmaps made in 24 hours

=== PREVIOUS ===


== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

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>> No.5618007

Dear mods: OP sucks cocks and fucked up big time with the News post

could you please remove the first post? thank you

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will repost since it was at the very end of last thread

A recent discovery in Doom 64 allows youto warp from one of the secret maps (The Lair) instantly to the credits. This is my final product speedrun using this. Doom 64 is now the fastest full game run of any of the major retro Doom games. When I first picked this game up in 2014, the fastest completion of Watch Me Die was 1 hour 8 minutes in real time by peaches. With the aid of many new glitches, improved routing, and better skill, the warpless record run now is 36:58 real time (32:32 IGT) and the warped run is less than half that now. I am happy to have given this game the attention it deserves for being by far the best console Doom game. Hope you all enjoy the run.

(NEW) Warped Watch Me Die WR - 13:30 IGT/15:48 RTA:

Warpless Watch Me Die WR - 32:32 IGT/36:58 RTA:

Also for those interested in the specifics of why this warp works, check out pic related.

Warped WMD in game time splits:

Time Map
0:30 - Staging Area
1:37 - The Terraformer
1:27 - Main Engineering
0:47 - Holding Area
1:26 - Tech Center
1:23 - Alpha Quadrant
0:20 - Research Lab
0:11 - Final Outpost
1:27 - Even Simpler
1:18 - The Bleeding
1:56 - Terror Core
0:26 - Altar of Pain
0:42 - The Lair

Total: 13:30

If you have any questions I'll be around for a while.

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>> No.5618040

I want to crash into her, if you know what I mean.

>> No.5618046
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That's adorable

>> No.5618153

does wadsmoosher work with sigil yet?

>> No.5618175

>best song in the game
>only used in one map

>> No.5618198
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So what are some cool heretic mods?
The wayfarer looks neat, and I did play wrath of Chronos with masters of chaos

Heretic/Hexen related pics from your folder are welcome

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tried to mod once

>> No.5618225

SIGIL will "officially" be released on Friday. Probably should add this to the next thread's news post.

>> No.5618228 [DELETED] 

Reminder half life ruined the fps genre forever and even other genres with it's influence

>> No.5618230

>I'm completely unable to enjoy thing because of morons that aped it for easy money
Why are you here enjoying Doom then? There was a reason FPSs were called "Doom clones" for a while.

>> No.5618234 [DELETED] 

/vr/ doesnt like half life stop deluding yourself

>> No.5618237 [DELETED] 

Doom clones are good and helped the genre unlike crap-life.

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anons, does someone have a cracked delta touch?
I have to spend these nights at the hospital and google doesn't take my debit card

>> No.5618252

Hey MetaDoom guy I just wanna say that while your mod isn't my cup of tea I respect all the work you put into it and the way you combined all the various doom games into one is fucking awesome as all hell. I especially love your sprite work and the explosion effects you did. Excellent job man.

>> No.5618253

I think you meant to post this

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>> No.5618265

tl;dr there's a mod for Half Life 1 called Half-Life: Absolute Zero that recreates the entire game's alpha for use in the original game as well as Xash3D. It's really fucking cool and well made, but some losers making a point and click game somehow copyrighted the term "Absolute Zero" so instead of going after CoD's devs, or anyone with an album named "Absolute Zero" they went after the only game on steam with "Absolute Zero" in the name so that they could be the only search result for it.

>> No.5618273

No beef quite like indie dev beef, I guess.

>> No.5618285 [DELETED] 

fuck off valve drones stop shilling your shitty mod
a game that ruined gaming doesnt deserve any recognition.

>> No.5618290

is gzdoom android 0.2.1 the last one?

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Try The History of Fruit and HYMN for Heretic. HUMP, HUMP-mini, and XUMP (Hexen) are also worth checking out.

>> No.5618298

Wtf are these referencing

>> No.5618304

Quake you dumb zoomer

>> No.5618305
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Quake champions has a lizard character named Sorlag
I think she's from Quake 3 actually? I dont remember

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thank you anons

I do wonder what would happen if Joel got hit in head one of these days and decided to announce a Heretic mapping contest

>> No.5618326

Still wish Doom would have stuck with techno instead of metal.

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>so you want to play some heretic.flv

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>> No.5618387

Brutal Chex Quest would be novel enough to be funny for at least a level or two

>> No.5618396

And Blood is already pretty brutal as it is
>head removal
>chunks fly off when gibbing
>can light enemies on fire

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Ketchup works with Chex Quest if I recall correctly. I haven't tried Bolognese

>> No.5618412

brutal doom works with chex

>> No.5618420
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>> No.5618421


Blood and guts will take out the atmosphere and charming of Chex Quest.
Unless that the enemies just explode in colours or something like that.

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Post your wad collections anons, I need suggestions on what to play next.
I tend to prefer Alien Vendetta style stuff but I'm open to anything at this point.

>> No.5618467

look up the cacowards and make your way back to 2004

or you can do it the other way around if it strikes your fancy

>> No.5618468

oh hey thats metroid

>> No.5618478

Crash anon it think its time to you to work on proper crash doujins on /aco/

>> No.5618482

Cacowards are where 90% of the wads I've played through are from. Was just hoping to see what other people here play to get an idea of what I'm missing. Been bored of browsing doomworld all day.

>> No.5618484


>> No.5618498

exquisite taste

>> No.5618512


Did you check the 25 years of doom feature on DW?

>> No.5618532
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It should be noted that some mappers put a lot of effort and care in the lighting and it would be kinda rude to shit all over it with your fancy Chocolate Doom filter

I just wanted to see if it affects performance, I'm not a heartless monster

>> No.5618545

Whats up with Nashgores broken flashing floor blood? Im running in software mode on GZDoom

>> No.5618551
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Also the Slaughter Spectrum really wants to tank your performance

Enabling Vulkan helps a ton actually, though I still get some screen tearing

>> No.5618559

> that section in Sigil where you finally get a chainsaw and get to take out all you frustration in that red hallway

Romero knows his shit. Sigil may be save scum hard, but for what is basically a finale episode it makes sense. Remember to use software mode light sectors though.

>> No.5618592

Was there a certain sound font Sigil was composed in like Doom was. It sounds good in base fluidity but doesn't sound as great with Roland I've noticed.

>> No.5618613

I guess you'd have to ask Jimmy. I know some other MIDI musicians compose for the default soundfont because that's what most people will be listening to it with.

>> No.5618623

Confession time: I didn't like Sigil.
Too gimmicky for my iking.

>> No.5618631
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Cursed doom wads

>> No.5618632

Ion Maiden is probably getting renamed. To the surprise of no one they're getting sued over the name.

>> No.5618635

>player has fun
>Romero has fun

>> No.5618640


>> No.5618643

well you can't always be top. sometimes y'gotta switch

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>> No.5618652

What a bunch of fags

>> No.5618654

What are those

>> No.5618657

shut up grav you pencil necked faggot

>> No.5618659


>> No.5618661

Well that fucking sucks.

>> No.5618663
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>"Incredibly blatant" trademark infringement
Jesus Christ, and Ion Maiden is such a good name too.

>> No.5618665

What a disappointment when most of these hardcore metal bands became lawsuit boomers in their older years.

>> No.5618667

t. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A-7MaR8PpI

>> No.5618694

Remember kids, if there's money involved nobody is your friend. Boomers doubly so. Cover your ass and retain a lawyer.

>> No.5618702

That's pretty fucking stupid, Iron Maiden. WE OWN WORDS NOW. EVEN... SIMILAR SOUNDING ONES. YEAH!

>> No.5618704

Stop getting worse, timeline.

>> No.5618705

I'm morbidly curious as to how broken a Brutal Marathon would be.

>> No.5618708

>"How much fun is fighting a couple of Barons of Hell with nothing but a shotgun" said no one ever.

Jesus Christ, what a fucking pussy.

>> No.5618712
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No Brutal Square

>> No.5618717

Doubtful it will go anywhere. They will boo hoo and say its blatant but will have hell of a time proving how the art and music is in any shape or form related to the band. The only thing they have is that the title is a play on their name. But given that an Iron Maiden is a medieval torture device predating the band, that in of itself is going to be pain in the ass to argue in court.

>> No.5618725

Play Elf Gets Pissed, it's fucking great.

>> No.5618727

There will never be a point in time where people playing a wad will realize "hmm, all I have is a shotgun and there are seven barons of hell here, perhaps there is more to this level than meets the eye."

Literally right now I'm playing through Demons of Problematique and there's a setpiece where all I have is a shotgun and a level starts with THREE barons riding your ass. Nothing encourages you to move your buns through the level as fast as you can quite like that, which I think was the intended effect.

>> No.5618731

Still gotta deal with the legal fees. Not like they'll back down without a fight. Voidpoint isn't exactly a big rich studio and 3D Realms... well, who knows what they'll do.

Hopefully the Iron Crybabies get shot down immediately.

>> No.5618732

At lest the first six exist already though.

>> No.5618738
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we need more spooky revenants

>> No.5618739

I'm thinking it won't even get that far. Prob get looked at and dismissed based on it being obvious frivolous case.

>> No.5618741

Why do people say "Quake" when theyre actually referring to Quake 3? There were no lizard bitches in Quake (or Quake 2 for that matter)

>> No.5618742

Yeah. Pretty much what anyone would say. But those fucking spin doctors, man. You never know.

>> No.5618745

I dunno. It's very confusing.
Maybe because Quake 3 is the most famous game of the franchise.

>> No.5618750

Its a singleplayer game. Its impossible to be "rude"

>> No.5618753

what a bunch of faggots

>> No.5618756
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Fuck, man. Scythe stopped screwing around for episode 3.

>> No.5618760

Soundtrack's starting to make sense.

>> No.5618778

>Drawing with visible tits for an OP of a thread in a blue board
>Still up without a problem

Huh. I mean, not that I'm complaining. Just seems unlike the mods to allow it

>> No.5618780
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I want Doomgirl to peg me and beat the absolute dogshit out of me while high on a berserk pack.

>> No.5618783

I still hate how unfitting it is for Doom. Let alone how all over the place each song is.

>> No.5618792

At first I didn't like it but after a while it got comfy.

Feels like music for someone from the 80s, perfect fit for classic retro gaming.

>> No.5618795

Playing Doom with non-electronic music gives me the same feeling as playing Doom with HD textures or models would.

>> No.5618798

That's not how courts work.

Serious question: When you first heard the name "Ion Maiden" what was the first thing you though of? The phrase "iron maiden"? Of course it was. You and everybody else on the planet.

Now what's the first thing you think of when you hear the phrase "iron maiden"? The heavy metal band "Iron Maiden", right? If they can convince the judge that most people would make the same association then they have a legal case. That's all that needs to be established in court.

And since OF COURSE "Ion Maiden" reminds people of "Iron Maiden" there's no way they beat this. Best case scenario is they settle before a trial can start and the name ends up getting changed without bankrupting the studio in the process.

>> No.5618805

On the flipside they could play the wild card. "It's just free advertisement for you guys LMAO"
Yeah, no. That's not gonna work.

>> No.5618806

>Serious question: When you first heard the name "Ion Maiden" what was the first thing you though of? The phrase "iron maiden"? Of course it was. You and everybody else on the planet.
Man I wasn't aware that I'm living on the moon. Thanks for informing me.

>> No.5618809

What happened to references?

>> No.5618813

It's a trademark dispute isn't it? Pretty sure they're obligated to fight those or else it becomes a free for all.

>> No.5618817

Iron maidens existed long before the band.

>> No.5618821

The difference is that the English blacksmiths that made the original iron maidens hundreds of years ago are no longer around to dispute the name with a heavy metal band.

>> No.5618823

Man, what a shitty situation. Any word from Voidpoint?

>> No.5618835

Best I could find. Kotaku but whatever.
Basically Iron Maiden fans going "We're stupid and illiterate. What the fuck?! You tricked us!"

>> No.5618838

His point is that it's a pre-existing word/phrase with an understood meaning, which is something you can't just trademark and then make claims on all willy nilly.

>> No.5618851

People also say Terminator, System Shock...

>> No.5618853

The trademark system is fucked so you basically can if you have the money, same with copyright.

>> No.5618856

You could make a limited claim. Iron maiden tm with respect to music and music and toy merchandising

>> No.5618858

That'd be a stretch to a video game.

>> No.5618865

Fantasy land best case scenario:
Ion Maiden gets an Iron Maiden soundtrack and the profits get split 50/50. Everybody wins bigtime.

The most distant of pipe dreams.

>> No.5618873

Oh aha oh, oh ah oh, oh aha oh.
I hope they lose.
Screw the gaming industry.

>> No.5618887
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brb telling Slayer to sue iD over their use of "Doom Slayer" in the new games.
Lawsuits over frivolous bullshit are so fucking metal man.

>> No.5618892

is there some D_RUNNIN in this or is it just me?

>> No.5618897

I made a tiny mod for Heretic using Decorate. It increases the firing speed for all weapons but reduces the max amount of ammo you can carry as well, that and other changes to try and balance things out (All changes are shown in the text file)

I made it since I feel the enemies are a little bullet spongy and found the pace of the game was a bit slow because of it but I didn't want too much of the game changed, I also wanted to figure out how decorate works and what I could do with it.


I only played it using GZDoom, so it probably works with that source-port only.

>> No.5618905

yeah, like fucking iron maiden needs the money.

>> No.5618940

Of course they'll lose. No way they can fight that kind of legal team.
There's no money for any of that of course so up in flames everything goes. Why? Because people are stupid.

>> No.5618942

Iron Merde more like

>> No.5618943


>> No.5618948

>when you're a bunch of aging, pampered assholes who have fallen so far from your self aggrandizing, over inflated egos
>a bunch who would be entirely irrelevant by now if not for selling t-shirts and toys with your OCDONUTSTEEL edgy character on them, to individuals going through (permanent)midlife crises or metalhead kids looking for that sweet retro-cred
>who play shows to ever more unenthusiastic, burnt out, geriatric crowds, no more groupies or the most used up, diseased roasties on the planet, the only drugs are the ones you pick up from the pharmacy to keep your abused body in some semblance of being alive

>so you must file a lawsuit against video game developers over what is, at best, a half reference to your XTREME HARDCORE "FUK'IN MET'L M8" band name
>since said band name is just a straight ripoff itself. meaning the game devlopers actually exercised more creativity in choosing a name than you did.

I don't even give a shit about ion maiden. or iron maiden. but this dumb shit is just so pathetic, arrogant, and born from victim-complex. besides being a perfect display of how fucked IP laws are. I'd like to think a well adjusted person in that position would say "oh cool, they're kind of referencing something I was a part of!" but then again, this is fucking clown world. HONK HONK

>> No.5618951

Looking at his post I'm gonna say he's a massive fucking faggot and should be disregarded. This industry is a shitheap but there's still things worth celebrating

>> No.5618953

... are you okay

>> No.5618958


>> No.5618962

Note that the band members probably don't run the brand company directly, and companies are legally *required* to protect their trademarks like this or they'll have the rights to the name stripped away. Intellectual property law is weird, and makes some people seem like assholes when there legit is nothing personal about it.

They could however have told 3D realms to formally ask for permission and grant it to them, because the animosity from the public might hurt their brand.

>> No.5618965

>clown world
Sadly true.

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>> No.5618969

I understand the sentiment, but most likely this lawsuit was filed by some lawyer on behalf of the band's publishing company, not the band members themselves. And even if they were involved they probably just rubberstamped it after being told someone was trying to rip them off.

>> No.5618970

iron maiden is decent. just because they pull this shit doesn't take away from their merit at creating stuff.

>> No.5618974

shut the fuck up

>> No.5618975

>just gonna rob and ruin these people real quick
The band would put a stop to this if they were decent.

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Jesus christ game calm down fuck

>> No.5618987

They are *required* only in cases of blatant copyright infringement, which "Ion Maiden" is not.
They would've only HAD to press a charge in case the the offending product tried to tie itself to them or pass it as an official brand thing, in same fields they have trademarked their name in.
Ion Maiden does not fall into that category, so this lawsuit is not because they HAVE to, but simply because they CAN.
This is just an act of bullying.

>> No.5618991

More like ass-clown world.
Full of fags

>> No.5618994

how do you not understand my words?

>> No.5618995

"decent" has several different meaning though
fuck english language for being so primitive

>> No.5618996

I understood you just fine. How do you not understand my words?

>> No.5618997

The Metallica documentary accidentally captured that whole slide, it owns. I'm pretty sure it was half the inspiration for Metalocalypse.

>> No.5619001

so you knew I was talking about the music but went on to flex about something else on purpose?

>> No.5619003

Flex? I was making a point. These people are destructive scumbags no matter what if this goes through. "We didn't know" won't cut it.

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>> No.5619010

your original post went on to douse them in shit because of their style and image in a completely unwarranted fashion. you can defend your point about them taking legal actions which really does show some scumminess from their part, but nothing about the work they ultimately do should weigh in on your judgement beyond personal preference.

>> No.5619012

I mean, it sounds like he's right.

>> No.5619013

Never said anything about their work, bud. Decent as in decent people.
See >>5618995

>> No.5619014

>>a bunch who would be entirely irrelevant by now if not for selling t-shirts and toys with your OCDONUTSTEEL edgy character on them, to individuals going through (permanent)midlife crises or metalhead kids looking for that sweet retro-cred
>>who play shows to ever more unenthusiastic, burnt out, geriatric crowds, no more groupies or the most used up, diseased roasties on the planet, the only drugs are the ones you pick up from the pharmacy to keep your abused body in some semblance of being alive

>> No.5619016

>required to fuck other people over due to nothing- errrr, """protect their trademark"""
yeah, I've heard that before, that's what I meant by how fucked the laws are. fucking criminal, especially if what you're saying about asking permission would've been possible too. and yeah, surely it isn't the band directly looking for asinine bullshit to claim as trademark infringement, but you won't see any of them looking into it and objecting, asking their parent companies to go for the non-agressive pursuit. the one that doesn't ruin people's careers.
t. iron maiden fanatic
pretty much this. letting something shitty happen isn't much better than being the one to directly commit the act.
that was my post, different anon. inb4 samefagging, I'll screencap it if you want. yeah, I shit all over their style and image, boo hoo. I wouldn't give them the time of day either, I'm a monster and that invalidates how shitty the situation is that they're not going to do anything about is. :'(

>> No.5619017

Not my post, anon.

>> No.5619020
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>> No.5619023

just so you know, your tirade doesn't justify you being a cunt to people

>> No.5619025

Does anyone have the buckethead sigil album in Flac? some of the youtube rips are pretty shitty quality

>> No.5619028

Robbing people > being angry on the internet

>> No.5619029

Buddy I don't even care what you're arguing about, but grow a thicker skin. You're on the fucking internet.

>> No.5619036

I wasn't even being rude toward you to boot. just be aware that you shouldn't take it out on a group for the work they do based on drama. that's all.

tell you what, for someone to tell me to take it like a man, you sure seem affected by this, very visibly so.

you don't need to reach that far, friend.

>> No.5619038

just ignore him and he oughta get it out of his system soon enough.

>> No.5619045

Is there a real reason to attack one group of "geriatric boomers" over the ancient boomers who make a quasi-fan-game of shit bands? 3D Realms are the equivalent of burnt out groupies.
They both should go bankrupt.

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so they're making a mural for E3 time. seems neat, the outline on the middle building suggests they're gonna be doing the classic boxart right under the Eternal logo.

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>look these guys up
>one hit wonder who was big in the 70s or something

Oh, so thats why they are suing
This lawsuit is probably the most attention these hacks are ever going to get

>> No.5619052

I don't understand IP law. If worst comes to worst can't they settle if they just change the name or something? Eyeon Maiden? Maiden of Ions?
Don't really see how this could progress any further than that at this point.

>> No.5619053

so should I still like iron maiden or start burning all their records instead because their guitar playing should be filling me with some primal anger

>> No.5619054

this nigga lit looked up iron maiden on google lmfao

>> No.5619057

Well sorry I'm not into old rock music

>> No.5619058


>> No.5619059
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>creating a video game that has the same look and feel as the IRON MAIDEN video game, 'Legacy Of The Beast';

guys I totally can't tell ion maiden apart from some shitty phone game

>> No.5619064

not really big on the band itself, but I'm certain that the creature designs they used for their cover art would lend themselves better to something a bit more nuanced than some chinese mobile game. and of course it's isometric.

>> No.5619068

>who is Windows? I'm not into OS.

>> No.5619069
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kek. bro, who the fuck cares about being a cunt to each other on the Internet, let alone on 4chan(nel) - LET ALONE "being a cunt" to a band in a DOOM thread. and you're quoting two different people again. but yo, let's just get back to DOOM or just discussing the lawsuit directly. no one needs to see either of us arguing more over literally fucking nothing, it's a shitty situation and that's about it. and I'm not justified, whatever floats your boat.
wait, what the fuck is this? fucking KEK, at last I see, this is the IP they must protect. totally justified now, case closed bros.

>> No.5619072

After playing through it, I get the feeling gman is terrible at conserving rockets, judging from his "just give me some fucking rocket launcher rounds" comment.

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>> No.5619084

He couldn't even figure out how to get out of the pits, my dude.

>> No.5619086

this month felt like it went on forever, come to think of it. jesus.

>> No.5619090

my feet hurt

>> No.5619091

how do you go from this

to this >>5618649

>> No.5619092 [SPOILER] 
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Can I have some shoe- SHIT, NOT RETRO.

>> No.5619094

>they ripped off a game themselves for their MV

>> No.5619096
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Lapti are true retro shoes

>> No.5619098

ggggggggggggman is every "does this work with brutal doom?" "hi make this work with brutal doom or I won't play it" comment rendered down and cast into the form of a youtuber.

>> No.5619101

How is Brutal Doom: Hell on Earth Starter Pack?
I hear the campaign isn't bad

>> No.5619105

>no report of the week.wad
day is ruined

>> No.5619108

Thank you for the new shoes!

>> No.5619112

Yeah, but some later stages have some heavy handholding.
Like literally a text message in a middle of a screen telling you that you can jump from window of one building into the window of a next one (when you stare right at the window frame)

Or that you should climb the railing to jump onto the bridge despite all prior railings on the level being unclimbable.

Or that you should jump at a roof of a bus that has ammo on it from the roof.

Or stating that you can use stones obviously protruding out of a wall to climb it

Or telling you that switch opened a door in the next room. I mean really.

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Well, if you think about the kind of people who play Brutal Doom, that makes sense

>> No.5619119 [SPOILER] 
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Something tells me you got a better price.

>> No.5619141

People here talk about Intermission a lot. No interest in Doom Radio?

>> No.5619153

Best Romero maps:

Toxin Refinery
Computer Station
Tech Gone Bad
Against Thee Wickedly
Abaddon's Void
Unspeakable Persecution
Nightmare Underworld
Circle of Death
Industrial Zone
The Living End

>> No.5619157

Meanwhile Dave Mustaine's been a weeny since the beginning so nothing can surprise me, Megadeth fans wins again.

>> No.5619160

What is the "A secret is revealed" sound anyway, a gong?

>> No.5619164
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Why did people complain about this section? I didn't think it was that hard, just look for the spots where monsters stand and aren't getting mashed, then when you see a clear shot just leg it towards that plate.

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>> No.5619176
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>> No.5619184

A true patrician

>> No.5619187


Minimap mod updated to 0.3.

>Can now toggle map on and off
>Minimap doesn't draw when regular automap is enabled
>cvars for alpha, background and map separate
>player arrow indicator enlarged and now scales
>doesn't crash the game if you load a save
Todo: further work on getting line colors right, squeezing out better performance

Remember to set your custom automap colors from the menu unless you like brown-on brown.

>> No.5619231

Sigil better with pistolstart or continuous play?

>> No.5619258

It is very possible to stop the crushers in a position that makes it impossible to both get out or restart them meaning that you are completely trapped and have to reload/restart.

>> No.5619283


>> No.5619292
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This stuff is pretty much perfect
Great props to you, dude.

>> No.5619298

Thanks senpai. Still taking suggestions.
Know about secret doors showing when they shouldn't, and lack of support for door lock colors and cross-portal overlays (probably won't even bother with portal support because it would be extremely painful)

>> No.5619301
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Heretical Doom

>> No.5619302

>brutal duke nukem
>not brutal duke or brute nukem

>> No.5619304

Heretical Doom is atrocious

>> No.5619306

Can you also show all activateables on the map, like you can do with AM_cheat ?

>> No.5619310

Yeah, will try. I think that's part of the commented out source code converted stuff in the GetLineColor function.

>> No.5619315
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Brutal Wolfenstein. It has BJ voiced by Tank Dempsey, German and American weapons, and levels that take advantage of the fact that it’s a Doom 2 TC.

>> No.5619317

Can I get a uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
Handheld map device. Mostly as a proof of concept for future modders. Locking the thing to a sprite, pretty much. Sway and everything taken into account.

Just chucking ideas out there.

>> No.5619318

Poor Parius

>> No.5619321

Her name is Crash.

>> No.5619326

game / mod:
> has any amount of gore beyon regular blood splats from impacts

>> No.5619336

I think that's outside the scope of the project, but it shouldn't be hard at all for another modder to do that. They'd only need to grab players[consoleplayer].readyweapon.OverlayY(1)/OverlayX(1) and use those as the X and Y map position (+offsets) rather than the cvars I think.

>> No.5619338
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what in the fuck

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>> No.5619345

I don’t how someone can be like this.

>> No.5619351

This is from Combat Shock I believe.

>> No.5619365

Pistolstart is more or less Perfect Hatred all the way through.

>> No.5619386

No worries. Not like it makes much sense to have something like that anyway without some adventuretastic gameplay mechanics.

>> No.5619392

What I do want to try though for the non-standalone version in my main mod is doing isometric 3D projection of the map. I don't think it should be that hard really.

>> No.5619396

Play Strange Aeons, if you're not afraid of spiders. Like me

>> No.5619397

That's rad. Looking forward to seeing it.

>> No.5619412 [SPOILER] 
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B̸̹̬̞̗̝̃̀͋̄͡ë̵̗͎̥̖͉͚͖́̂̎͆̈̉ḧ̶̳͇̭̫̊́̉̉̌̆̚͜͜͞͝ḭ̷̙̭̱̜̀̏͊̌̒͆͒͝ņ̡̯̬̫̩̬̾̊͂͐͗̊̚͟ͅd̴͉̳̜̙̟͖͚̜̄́̍̐̈̃̎͒ ỵ̷̧͓̮̭̯̻̠̿͂̇̇͆̍̊͌͘̚ͅợ̵̛̣̣̯̬̻͉̎̿ư̶̡̟̦̺̘̹̹͉͖̔͐̓̂̂,̴̜̟̼͙̳͌̾̄̓́̍̚͢͝͞ a̢̛̮̘͎̪̪̺͉͋̆̇̊͊̎͗̈ṉ̴̛͇̯͔͖̪̠̄̓̿̐́̾̊̚ò̴̢͍̩̪̙̙̱̓̐̒̇̒̀͐̇́ͅñ̷͔̗̭̬̝̩̮̞́̃̿͑͆̈́͂̆̕

>> No.5619416

>this is fucking clown world. HONK HONK

And you were doing so well too....

>> No.5619417
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>mfw Project Babel crashes as soon as i start it.

>> No.5619432

Spiders man

>> No.5619464

Why are people pissing on E5M7? It's a great, all around adventure map. The Barons behind the yellow key door are the only wtf moment in the otherwise outstanding map.

>> No.5619465

Romero likes Barons.

>> No.5619476

Is that true? There's an on and off switch from what I can tell, you could just keep fiddling with them I figure.

>> No.5619481

I think those are shadows not nipples

>> No.5619484

If E5M2 was meant to be a throwback to E4M2, it fucking sucks in that capacity.

>> No.5619486

There's a caged-out section near the end with a pool of blood. There is room of crushers in front of it leading to the exit and a corridor of crushers leading to the begining.
When you hug the grate of the cage from inner side, crushers stop.
The crushers will restart if you get back to the beginning and enter the area again.

Problem is crushers go at irregular intervals so it is very possible to unknowingly stop them in a composition where you can't pass onto the exit, and can't get back to the beginning to restart the crushers.

>> No.5619494

What makes you think it was meant to be a throwback?

>> No.5619504

This is pretty fucking neat anon, dont have a lot of experience with Heretic but I will give it a spin

>> No.5619509 [DELETED] 

only the first 5 technically.
brutal doom/project brutality
brutal wolfenstein
quake 1.5
brutal halflife (and technically the SMODs for HL2)
brutal heretic RPG
brutal hexen RPG

>> No.5619546

My Sigil Review
> Hardware Renderer
I can't see anything. What was that? Jesus oh fuck
> Software Renderer
A tough natural extension to the difficulty Thy Flesh Consumed ended on. It can be brutal at times, but Romero does a decent job of rewarding the player in between gauntlets. Not the best maps ever made, but for those that wanted more after episode four of Ultimate Doom, it's well worth a play.

>> No.5619554
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keeping these descriptions short is such an annoyance

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>> No.5619561

that is not how you bow

>> No.5619575
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>> No.5619578

That reads like some autistic jew wrote it.

>> No.5619581

that's really not well written at all.
as if it was written by an albanian with bare minimum knowledge of english
also you should use a more readable font

>> No.5619586
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>that hair dryer in place of a predator shoulder cannon

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nigga if you are going to drop your cropped porn at least give out a place to check out the full pictures

>> No.5619595


I am gonna rewrite it in two pages and do the same with others and re arrange the stuff so I can write it properly

>> No.5619596
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I think Brutal Doom is a decently fun way to unwind but it's a farcry from being the best mod out there and could never replace the original Doom II.

>> No.5619597

Couldn't you up the res of your help pages to 800 x 600 to give yourself more space?

>> No.5619601

>"kinda juice" fruit-flavoured drink

>> No.5619602
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If you had to remake or demake any FPS game onto any Doom source port, what would it be?

>> No.5619605
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Maybe try explaining things with pictures instead.

>> No.5619609

Painkiller Black Edition

>> No.5619612
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>> No.5619614

tron 2.0

>> No.5619616
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this hurts my eyes

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>> No.5619619

the font with outline i mean

>> No.5619621

I see perfectly fine.

>> No.5619632

15 second hackjob as a suggestion.

>> No.5619637

quakespasm or mark v?

>> No.5619643

i lol'd internally

>> No.5619656

Straight up remakes are boring but I guess I'd pick an early RTS because I'd have fun adapting it to GZDoom.

>> No.5619658
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> max brightness
> all zombiemen

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>> No.5619684

would you play an episode 6 of quake/doom made by petersen?

>> No.5619686
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Giving Sandy a limit removing mapping tool and enough time to come up with some polished Lovecraftian bullshit?

a man can dream

>> No.5619690

Sandy's a hardworking fellow, some of his maps can be a pain in the ass but at least they're memorable pains in the ass. So yeah, I'd be down for that.

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>> No.5619701

The Plutonia Experiment is pretty good. Liked it a lot more than TNT.

>> No.5619702

Ask the guy to do some maps. Can't hurt.

>> No.5619703

what is he up to anyways? isnt he making a new CoC game?

>> No.5619704
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> sigil on uv is doom on uv++
> someone give romero a copy of trenchbroom

>> No.5619705

Why not? It couldn’t hurt.

>> No.5619709

Last I checked, he was pumping out board game expansions on kickstarter

>> No.5619710

Agreed, even though I like them both.

>> No.5619714

Does anyone here own any of the board games he’s worked on? I saw on his KS page that in one of his games, a donation goal is to add a Spider Mastermind-like enemy. Is that still happening?

>> No.5619718
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SI666IL at E3
Eternal BTFO

Maybe not.

>> No.5619719

the system shock 2 music really took me out of that mod

>> No.5619723

are they gonna sue capcom for having an enemy named "iron maiden" in RE4 too?

>> No.5619725

How do you get to M9 on sigil? Secret map?

>> No.5619726

Only if you snitch.

>> No.5619728

he made the original version of call of cthulhu and he made a new version recently

>> No.5619729

Capcom would bitchslap their asses if they tried anything.

>> No.5619731

That would be fun.

>> No.5619734
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Okay, I felt a bit of excitement myself when this worked out. It's like a little 3D renderer.

Gotta do the upper layer of horizontal lines too, but it shouldn't be *too* hard.

>> No.5619736
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Hory shet that minimap

>> No.5619737

What version of GZDoom? It's broadly compatible with most up until about 3.7.x where Graf decided to start popping Pervitin like uncle A and broke goddamned everything.
Also if you give me the output I can see what's wrong maybe.

>> No.5619739

i kinda doubt the usefulnes of that map since it shows only like 10m in front of you.

>> No.5619740

Civvie just put up his Sigil review


It's night and Day compared to Gman's. Like holy shit night and day.

Excited to play this episode.

>> No.5619742

Great success!

>> No.5619743
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It'll have zoom in/out buttons.

>> No.5619747

I love how he doesn't even need to throw shade at the other guy for that to sting

>> No.5619748

are you gonna put something on the side panels or are they purely decorative?

>> No.5619749

I like that the first comment i see is
>This review is way better than Gman´s review.

>> No.5619756

this guy is such a shitter playing the game it's actually irritating
also go shill elsewhere fag

>> No.5619758

> they add a sigil-esque map to DE

what the nani the fuck
metroid prime map screen?

>> No.5619759



t. garglemanlives

>> No.5619761

Which retro FPS protagonists are the least likely to like each other

>> No.5619763

Randy has a message for you.

>> No.5619767

This looks so fucking awesome dude. I am so genuinely excited to see you release this.

>> No.5619768

I don't know why, but I feel like Caleb would hate Duke and Lo Wang.

>> No.5619769

gordon and duke? maybe?

>> No.5619772


>> No.5619773

I think I'll put health, armor, keys and energy indicators on them. There needs to be a place to stick icons for status effects (like say, your flashlight being on or you being on fire) as well.

Huh, metroid had this?

>> No.5619776

everyone would hate Lo Wang

>> No.5619779

cry more lol

>> No.5619781

Also thanks for the feedback and encouragement. You guys are great for motivation!

>> No.5619783

What's the oldest wad that you think still holds up in the year 2019?
Memento Mori from '95 is still one of my all time favorites.

>> No.5619785
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>Hutz Fandango
MORE LIKE just kidding Joel is pure

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>> No.5619790

for real tho, pay some attention
just ctrl+f the last 3 characters of the video url

you take that back
decino has wronged nobody

>> No.5619792

In E5M6, on the raised walkway in the cyberdemon room you'll eventually see an evil eye. Shoot it, and once you're at room with the cacodemon and green armor you get before teleporting in the baron cage, another room will have opened up with the secret exit. Hope this helps.

>> No.5619795

Is there an EDuke32 mod that replaces the default Duke Talk voice with the higher quality files from World Tour?

>> No.5619796
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>youtuber apologists itt
wew I just want to discuss doom man..

>> No.5619797

I don't think Caleb likes anyone except Ophelia, and that went sour real quick didn't it?

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>> No.5619808

Joel is probably dumbest and most childlike out of them.

>> No.5619809

> im not defending gmanlives
> im just saying all utubers are bad when hes not the point of discussion

>> No.5619818
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Also, Sigil's first room reminds me of the first room from MM. I wonder if Romero was a fan of MM.

>> No.5619819
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I dunno if that guy who tore me a new asshole a few days ago is still here, but I've been thinking about a means of addressing the fucked up melee power difference between Blaz and Doomslayer.
If I spread the damage out of Blaz's combo so it starts stronger but doesn't spike up as high as it does at the end of the combo, it'll mean he'll be capable of killing wimpy enemies with a single blow, while also making sure tougher monsters still need some work to bring down, plus if I increase the pause between Doomslayer's sword swipes, it'll mean he's still capable of one shotting weak enemies too, he's just not as fast or efficient as Blaz. I'll be tweaking his quickfire melee too, make it so you can't chain the swipes together as quickly but still able to animation cancel and all that good shit.
Have an update to this art so far too, I've cleaned up the dithering on a few spots and I feel like that was the right call. Nearly done with the Bomber Knight, still need to figure out what last monster is gonna be.

>> No.5619820

just kidding I don't have beef with anyone

>> No.5619823
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>> No.5619824

Ok dude you are basically a titan alright keep it up my friend homie bro ni

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>> No.5619827

Civvie video's been on patreon for two days. Strange how nobody linked it.

>> No.5619829


Oh shit yes, I was trying to remember which classic megawad had that.

>> No.5619830

>paying ecelebs

>> No.5619831

Big list. Guess those people just don't come here.

>> No.5619835

I do but I don't link the videos anyways out of respect

>> No.5619846
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>> No.5619847

>Check mod files on how something was done
>The effect/picture/whatever just doesn't plain exist in coding or as files
What the fuck?

>> No.5619857

Someone tell Mr Modder here that not only does his usage of that name fall under fair use, he's not even close to big enough to register as a fraction of a blip on anyone's radar in the business world.

>> No.5619859

like 4chan posters have money to spend on a patreon lmao

>> No.5619860

Do you have an example?

Scripted stuff can be hidden if it's ACS and the person removed their source files after compilation. Pictures can really only be hidden if you do really fancy dumb shit like encoding it as an ACS rgb array and draw individual pixels with hudmessage or something.

>> No.5619863

What does Hideous Destructor come close to sounding like that would infringe copyright?

I can't think of anything that I would confuse it for.

>> No.5619864

A lyric from a song is not the same as the name of a band, also it’s not a paid game, it’s a mod.
Hideous Destructor was the absolute perfect name, it sounded cool and accurately described the experience.

>> No.5619868

It's a Judas Priest lyric. I'm pretty sure Matt's just fucking around like he usually does, though.

>> No.5619869

Frantic paranoia

>> No.5619870

Isn't it the name of some Judas Priest song or something? I don't really follow metal much.

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>> No.5619873

Either convince Matt to not be this much of a twig in the wind or get ready to answer WHY DID HD DIE??? for years to come.

>> No.5619874

Being inspired by the Accelerator Rifle from DoomZone I opened up the pk3 in slade to see how the weapon works, the problem comes from it's 'puff' where there's "BFGEffect4" listed as custom missile, but that whole item/missile/effect doesn't exist in any of the files I checked. Same for the assorted decaldef files associated with it where the pics BFGSCRC1, BFGSCRC2, BFGLITE1 and BFGLITE2 just don't seem to exist.

>> No.5619875

Either Doomguy and Caleb, or Prisoner 849 and Lo Wang.

>> No.5619879

Show yourself!

>> No.5619880

Well see you say that but after watching a fucking Space Station 13 server get crushed under a legion of FOX's lawyers I don't think anything is sacred anymore.

>> No.5619886

Admins do a lot of "pirate broadcasting" on those servers. Music mostly. Can't have that. No fun allowed without a license.

>> No.5619887

>Well see you say that but after watching a fucking Space Station 13 server get crushed under a legion of FOX's lawyers

oh for fucks sake what happened

>> No.5619890

You are now aware that SS13 is legitimately bigger that doom modding is.

>> No.5619892

Its also the best 3d platformer

>> No.5619895

Someone angry about drama snitched on the Colonial Marines server to FOX and they got a big fat cease and desist notice and had to change everything on the server.

Fuck man what happened?

>> No.5619896

That's not so bad. No fines or anything. No problem. Not like there's a drought on SS13 content.

>> No.5619898

Goodness, Strife has some incredibly smooth animations.

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Sounds a bit puny, but I dig the revolver

when did this happen?

>> No.5619909

Do you have a gif of the gibbing animation?

>> No.5619910
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i didn't make one unfortunately

>> No.5619912

Sometime mid/late last year I believe.

>> No.5619915

Plutonia was ahead of its time, where as TNT was fairly typical of 95-96 era mapping.

>> No.5619918

I remember the first time I got killed by something shooting fire at me, and seeing this animation. I was really impressed with the level of detail Strife had. Its a shame it was overshadowed by its contemporaries.

>> No.5619923

You're not cool, you just look completely out of touch.

>> No.5619926

They sued someone several back for a book titled Iron of the Maiden
I don't think the idea is to win, it's to try an extort them for settling fees.

>> No.5619930

Just making fun of the legal system. This even being something they can bring up in a court of law is ludicrous. But, you know, money is pretty much Satan, so...

>> No.5619936

I bought sigil and I have to ask: is there even a reason to make an account on Romero's store?
I like that it came in a pack called 'Sigil Registered Version'.

>> No.5619941

It probably isn't them filing the law suit. The name is so far detached from the band that it's basically a franchise at this point.
It's probably their record label and their armies of lawyers.

>> No.5619943

I'd love to.

>> No.5619949

Yes, yes I would.

>> No.5619956

Something tells me he crapped himself after the Ion Maiden thing came out.

>> No.5619957

Yes, given all the time he needs, modern tools and being able to do what he likes, I think he'd come up with something neat.

>> No.5619964

I think everyone did because the only thing stopped most of the doom community getting sued for equally frivolous bullshit is the fact that most people don't realize that there's still a doom community.

>> No.5619971 [SPOILER] 
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Everything in the OP archive is 100% legal. R-right guys?

>> No.5619972

Nah, it's the typical USI of your average forumite modder. It's very easy to be a big fish in a pond of indeterminate size which you assume is far larger than it is. Plus, upon further inspection, it seems like he's just taking out his nerd rage at heavy metal instead of trying to dodge a lawsuit that will literally never happen.

>> No.5619980

DOOM wads are free and the ones that aren't free use entirely custom assets or are sanctioned by id software.
It's a whole different ballpark. For example Simon's Destiny uses fuck loads of stolen assets and it was wildly popular when it came out yet it's still on every major mod site available for download because the author hasn't made a dime off it.

>> No.5619981

Don't think too hard about it.

>> No.5619982

Okay lads, buckethead or midi for sigil? I'm thinking midi

>> No.5619983

most big companies not only:
Do not know shit about Doom

Or, don't care because there's no way to make money off of a suit.

>> No.5619984
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I wonder if this is what did Ion Maiden in.
I don't think they'll survive. 3D Realms, we hardly knew ye. Again.

>> No.5619991

What? It isn't even out yet

>> No.5620002

They've been selling the demo for a long time. They can change the name but they'll still have to pay for "damages."

>> No.5620012

Iron maiden didn't even come up with the name iron maiden. They're real fucking things.
The only way they'll win the suit is if they just toss so much money at it so as to be grotesque about it.

>> No.5620020
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Heretic is fun and I love Hexen but if it didn't focus around switch puzzles then it would be a 10/10 in my book. Hexen 2 is fun, I am playing through vanilla Hexen 2 right now as a Necromancer, good times. Wrath of Cronos is really fucking nice as well.

Also, this is the anon who is working on a custom Hexen map pack inspired by the map design of games like Ultima Underworld and Delver. I will post an update on the first map soon.

>> No.5620021

Remember those rocket armed big titty bitches in Quake 2?

Wouldn't it be weird haha if someone had some cool fanart of them haha

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> inspired by the map design of games like Ultima Underworld

Instant endorsement right there, you better keep us updated

>> No.5620039

Fight changing the name it's not Iron Maiden it's Ion Maiden. They don't have a trademark on Ion Maiden. Take those cunts to court they have nothing to stand on.

>> No.5620041
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Holy shit this is awesome!

>> No.5620046

fuck not fight*

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i got it to work anon, thanks.

>> No.5620061

It does, doesn't it?
Whoever did the 2D art was very talented, and did meticulous work, because it's VERY clean, VERY smooth, and VERY consistent.
There's no stray pixels, no color bleeding, no palette conversion errors or anything.

>> No.5620068

Well that's good.

>> No.5620081

weren't those enemies called Iron Maidens? Hey!

>> No.5620082
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Cacowards are a stupid circlejerk of untalented and mostly stupid modders.

Gimme something in terms of Epic 2 or Extermination Day!

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Epic 2 won a cacoward you silly

>> No.5620086

>Epic 2
So, Cacoward winners, then?

>> No.5620087

I agree that a lot of Cacowards are undeserved but that's largely due to the fact that DOOM wadding has slowed down dramatically over the years and they still try to meet their 3 pages of awards quota every year.
There are always at least a handful of good wads that make it in but you have to sift through all the shit ones to find them.

>> No.5620094

what wads would you say are undeserving?

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>sift through all the shit ones to find them.
yeah, its a pain in the arse to find a good wad to play nowadays.

Anything similar to Diabolus Ex?

>> No.5620097

I love the Japanese community pack partly because it's so awesome to be playing Doom levels created by people from a console country like Japan for the most western PC game in existence, even have their own soundtrack

>> No.5620102

I'm joking

>> No.5620103


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Holy shit they are. I swear to god this was just a coincidence. Weird.

>> No.5620109

Mostly stuff in recent years. There are a lot of good years where I feel like almost every wad on the list is great, but then there are years where they clearly just wanted to pad out the awards to hit the standard 3 pages.
I'll dig through the awards and post some examples in a bit.

>> No.5620110

How do you lads catalogue your wads? Half the wads in my doom folder I don't know what the fuck they are because i didn't rename them when I dropped em in there way back, need to reorganize this shit

>> No.5620113

That's the appeal though. He's so non controversial it's refreshing. He just has fun joking about video games.

>> No.5620117

I use different settings or sometimes even different source ports for different wads, so I have them all in their own folders in a master folder called DOOM wads.

>> No.5620125

I have a bunch of folders in my ZDL directory

and then I save a bunch of presets like VENDETTA.zdl

>> No.5620128

Eh, I'd argue the cacowards has had its share of meh years even back in the 00s

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jesus fucking christ what the fuck is this?
Im playing PSX Doom TC and is it mother fucking normal that some of the maps are so ridiculously dark?
like fuck sake, thank god I am also playing with latest BD that adds a flashlight and that has brightmaps for monsters eyes or I wouldnt be able to see a palm from my nose
and people said Doom3 was dark?
is this shit normal?
was it like this back on the PSX too?

>> No.5620145


The Castle realised how fucked up the early parts of Redemption of the Slain is... nice to see those adjustments. Also built areas with Doom Builder for his own game.

>> No.5620157

>using OpenGL rendering
>using BrutalDoom

Just use Software Rendering, that'll enable you to see how you were supposed to in those PSX maps, with light emanating from doomguy.

>> No.5620161

Vanilla Essence has a PSX option if you want to play PSX TC more accurately.

>> No.5620164

whats wrong with OpenGL???
Im not using a texture filter besides Linear
I havent touched anything else

>> No.5620168

>whats wrong with OpenGL???
Dark WADs look much darker than intended on OpenGL. Specially on its default settings. Changing Lighting from "Dark" to "Software" makes it slightly better, but if you actually want to see shit your best bet is to use Vanilla Essence like this anon says >>5620161

>> No.5620173

>texture filter: linear
But why?

>> No.5620174

you can change the lighting in the options
or like the anons said you can use Vanilla Essence if you want something you can toggle with the touch of a button

just make sure to switch off the 35 FPS cap

>> No.5620178
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What highressounds wad and which palette mod is this referring to, any one know? It's from Hurt

>> No.5620180

I would recommend Sound Caulking
I feel like I cant go back after it got shilled here

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>Best played with...

>> No.5620191

Opinion McFucking Discarded

I just use DoomSFX + Sound Caulking PC. Although I don't actually know if the latter obsoletes the former, haven't checked.

>> No.5620208

thanks I'll check out sound caulking, not sure if I should use it for sigil though, feels right to use nothing but smooth doom

>> No.5620216

>all this ion maiden nonsense
why'd they change it from Bombshell in the first place? just go back to that.

>> No.5620220

You adapt quickly to the new sounds. I did not find it affecting my experience negatively at any time.

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The 1st map still needs some polishing. You know those water areas in Ultima Underworld? I have two areas in the first map that are like that. The first one has some platforms connected via 3d bridges that lead to a mess hall room with affrits in it. But it looks empty so I might add some indents in the wall and some tall walls to form streams that lead to said indents.

>> No.5620248

It's probably the same as with all the modders who suddenly shat themselves about having a red cross on health pickups, thinking they're going to get targeted by the Red Cross like the fuckers do with game studios.

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There's been ones that have been sold that were illegally containing id assets, they usually don't stick around forever though.

>> No.5620262

looks like bloax got into typesetting

>> No.5620270

everyone would hate caleb
dude's an asshole who hurts civilians for funsies

no way anyone else would stand that

>> No.5620274

They have a very nice niche of pc gamers that venerate western shit they never get like City builders, rts, and much other stuff they never delved in.

I fucking love Hexen 2 for some reason, but also hate it. The first level is so good. And I love that fantasy art style we lost. That weird mix of Sword and Sorcery and Tolkien, and then Dark Gothic.
Fantasy today does not feel the same.

My absolute dream Hexen game is exactly that, Ultima with a simple rpg system, inventory, exploration. An Arx Fatalis with some npc encounters as well.

But all in a nice Wrath of Cronos, brutal Hexen style.

>> No.5620275

Nobody would knew Garrett was there so they could hate him the most.

>> No.5620283

do you have examples?

>> No.5620292

And he use to be a member of demon worshipping cult. A certain someone really wouldn’t like that.

>> No.5620293

Are you the guy who has musicians making custom music too or is that another Hexen map pack guy?

>> No.5620308

Japan did get stuff like city builders for a time.

I just wish Yoot Saito did more stuff like Sim/Yoot Tower, that shit was incredible.

>> No.5620312

Let's not forget that back when id owned id, no one gave a fuck, but suddenly when Bethesda owned id, "id software" became very suehappy about their likeness being used, see Doomworld, Doom RL, and so on. It's generally not the parent company doing this shit, but publishers or executives. All the more reason why all publishers and record labels should be lined up and shot.

***all of them.***

>> No.5620315

Yes but never took off in the same way.
Like fps and whatnot.
Hell even consoles are kind weak now there with mobile becoming an ever growing tyrant.

One could say many famous publishers are making their money on western audiences.

>> No.5620317

Bethesda became sue happy with their own stuff at the same time too, up to that point they'd been fine just plagiarizing mods for their games, now they're quite happy to do that while screwing over mod developers for making their old games compete with their newer ones.

>> No.5620320

is this la tailor girl but for furries

>> No.5620321

When you work 12-16 hour days every day and come home to a small empty apartment you're too stressed to play vidya. Asian work culture is literally killing them.

>> No.5620323

Japan had quite a thing for first person RPGs / blobbers for a long while, both Japanese and Western ones, but the Wizadry series kind of cocked that up and interest dried up.

>> No.5620327

Doomworld is still Doomworld though.

>> No.5620330

Cosmetic Duke

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Iron Maiden suing id over Quake 2 enemy name when???????????

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>> No.5620349

I got around to playing the first few maps in sigil, and so far I don't see the difficulty complaints. In not 100% pro strat zero deaths gamer man or anything, but it seems fair for ultra violence. The only thing that's killed me is falling into pits with low health. Also the cyberdemon knocked me down to 10 health so I reloaded.
In any event, gmanlives sucks, civvie is okay but worse than me, and anyone else who complains unironically needs to git gud.

>> No.5620350

they are getting accused of ripping off the skull logo from Eddie and plagiarizing their fucking mobile game
also Shelly is apparently based on one of the band memebers

It's like ole one of the lawyers got fired and decided to file this lawsuit as a big fuck you

>> No.5620353

It's an enemy name in a lot of games, a spell name in Diablo 2 and a lot of other junk.

It's probably that 3D Reams decided to trademark Ion Maiden and that set Iron Maiden's lawyers off.

>> No.5620357

what are the best mods for melee combat? in any fps, not just doom, i think i already tried the 'good' ones for doom (demonsteele, gmota) and i wasn't much of a fan of demonsteeles mashy gameplay and gmotas melee class felt really weak for a melee class

>> No.5620359

Agreed. I wonder how it is in their villages, outside off the city atmosphere. People don't often talk about that.
Though their villages all have to be near cities at this point anyway. Theyve got 130 million people in an area the size of California.
They need to find a way to reduce this stress.

>> No.5620362

I dunno, max payne's kung fu mod?

>> No.5620395

That was good, if a little buggy, especially in the later redone versions.

>> No.5620406

>how much sector detail do you want

>> No.5620414

They cant. They are Asians. Conformity sets in and stays for centuries if needed.

>> No.5620415

That is another guy, I don't plan on using custom music.

>> No.5620416

you should keep the readmes

>> No.5620417

Hexen. Especially with the Cronos Unleashed mod, where melee enemies lunge forward while attacking.

>> No.5620448

Chexter and Caleb

>> No.5620501
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They gave us C.Kid, best doom mod character.

>> No.5620504

Why couldnt Fox stop Randy?

>> No.5620507


>> No.5620508
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So, i should get Ion Maiden?

>> No.5620510

nips still make wizardry games and a dozen jap blobbers are released every year

>> No.5620516

someone here said something about a automap in a map object sprite
is it possible to show ammo in a gun's sprites, like in halo and doom 3?

>> No.5620520

wait for the final release, otherwise pirate the early access
never pay for an unfinished game

>> No.5620524

Arguably, there are exceptions to this.
Case in point: Factorio in early access has had more content than most full release titles, and it's well on track to 1.0.

>> No.5620532

I liked that wad until the Egypt episode. It's fucking enraging how many enemies will literally not die.

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>open it up to see about making a compatibility patch like the one for high noon drifter, but more generally applicable
>like thirty fucking DECORATE files, all just named DECORATE instead of using includes
i may have made a mistake

>> No.5620573

>ggmanshills hates it because he sucks and it's too hard for his peabrain
>civvie likes it but acknowledges it's not the second coming of Christ due to some broken spots to be expected from pushing Doom 1 so far

These two occupy the same place of "boomer talks about old games", yet the difference in quality between them is astonishing.

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Okay then.

>> No.5620583

Haha you got blocked by an internet nobody. Everyone laugh at this nerd.

>> No.5620587

>is it possible to show ammo in a gun's sprites, like in halo and doom 3?
Yeah. If you want the text angled and with perspective, you have to pre-render everything though.

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He blocked me too, I don't even have beef with the guy. I know why he did it though.

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Half Life: Absolute Zero got fucked by an indie developer for their name too. Apparently "Absolute Zero" is a name only they should use. Fucking fags

>> No.5620606

this is why you don't directly follow people
use the List function, make a private list, and see all the crap they do without them knowing you follow them

>> No.5620610

I'm playing "No Rest for the Living" (NERVE.WAD) right now. One of the best wads I've ever played. The hellish atmosphere and level design is stunning and it's all vanilla Doom 2.

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>> No.5620615

i am shocked to learn that a goon whose internet personality is based entirely around being various flavors of Disaffected And Snarky is actually a thin-skinned bitch

>> No.5620616

I never even followed the guy, he directly found my twitter and blocked me.

>> No.5620619
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OoOoOoooo... your harsh insults hurt my skin...

>> No.5620623

What do you normally tweet about anyway?
What reason do you think would be there do block you?

>> No.5620625

Because they thought he would make and sell a game for them.

>> No.5620627

>It's night and Day compared to Gman's
because he actually knows what he's talking about

>> No.5620631

speaking of first person melee, city of brass is free on epic right now, may appeal to someone here
my pc wouldnt be able to run it so im meh

>> No.5620636

Kinsie, I've got no beef with you, hell I barely even know you besides "that guy who did MetaDoom."

but I seriously hope you are not the type of douche that uses any of those blocklists that are floating around on twitter

>> No.5620637

announcing dev stuff and twitch streams. No, he's blocked me over something that happened on a discord server. It's frustrating because when he's not in a pissy mood and giving people attitude he can make some great stuff, his presentation is always on point.
But this is getting way off topic. So I'm done.

>> No.5620642

I heard some of them have viruses, so prey on that one maybe

>> No.5620649

you too, huh? i never even interacted with the guy at all.

>> No.5620665

Discord was a mistake, it further amplified the already excessively petty shit that goes on in the community.

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> ebin chink bribery store
gross repulsive and disgusting
regardless of what is there

>> No.5620697

Vanilla hexen melee is pretty meh
WoC was pretty fun once you started critting all the time but kinda sucks now since it or its monster pack is broken in every single source port

>> No.5620704

Would you recommend brutal hexen? I know it only has one character right now.

>> No.5620709

I think every brutal mod is trash and that's no exception. Annoying visual effects.

>> No.5620713

I only played a little and seemed fine, a simple crafting system and levelling.
Good chunky combat not as aggressive as brutal doom no way.

>> No.5620714

Are there any gameplay mods that are designed around no freelook always? Or do you always reserve that for Vanilla only gameplay?

>> No.5620724

>look up brutal hexen
>another mod which doesn't give you any hint on any of its functions, what source port to use, how its mechanics work, nothing
at last this one has a vid to go off which shows you cant fucking see anything through any shadow

>> No.5620741

What you expect them to go through hundreds of hours of work modding a games every aspect and then explain what they did? Fuck you. Entitled much?

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>> No.5620758

I thought that describing the eye switches with "Because they make it really obvious how they work right at the start" might have been a jab at GGGMan failing at the eye switches.

>> No.5620764

I played an hour and it seems to work. Barebones crafting, mana conversion, levelling and thats it. Its normal Hexen then.

>> No.5620793
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Doom Eternal WAD when?

>> No.5620797

there's that one hellfall thing someone made but it's bad
like super bad
otherwise you could pretend some mods are doom eternal
>doom exp

>> No.5620807

d4t was good

You die a lot quicker but are also more powerful.

Real high stakes high rewards

>> No.5620810

d4t is hard though. nu-doom is piss easy. mostly because d4t has enemies practically instagib you like nu-doom ones often would but without the busted ass mobility it gave you

>> No.5620821

d4t, metadoom, and doom exp make sense but why GMOTA?

>> No.5620828

Hexercise is pretty good, shame that it was abandoned, but what was implemented is there and Baratus plays like absolute truck full of murderfuck.

>> No.5620830

gimmicky imbalanced trash with an instakil chainsaw
on that note, how do you get chainsaw ammo in d4t

>> No.5620837


Seems exactly what I kinda wanted.
A modern Hexen with nice level design some npcs etc like I said here>>5620274 would be a dream come true.

Not sure what I would really want, more big dungeon crawling ro more hub designed.

>> No.5620840

you want dcss remade in doom with hexen like artstyle
if that's not what you want, it now is. i have dictated it

>> No.5620842

you play as the doomslayer aka doomguy during the knight sentinels
also grapple hooks

>> No.5620852

Are The Master Levels worth a play or should I just jump straight to No Rest For the Living?

>> No.5620872
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Deus Vult.

>> No.5620879

most of them are kind of bland but you may at least like one

>> No.5620902

I wonder why The Elder Scrolls, Half-Life, Thief, Minecraft and Fallout fans are fine with major graphics and sound overhaul mods, but almost anything of this sort for Quake1-3, Wolf3D, Duke Nukem, Shadow Warrior, Blood, and Redneck Rampage evokes anger, angst, and asspain.

>> No.5620906

get some vaseline and spread that shit all over the screen, and then ask yourself the big questions

>> No.5620913

tbqh i am tempted to buy hedon purely because i want to fuck the chick

>> No.5620915

The main character? She looks like crap.

>> No.5620917

Who wants to tell him?

>> No.5620918

>She looks like crap.

>> No.5620920

Isn't she a girl with a dick?

>> No.5620925

Just download the free version and rub one out

>> No.5620931

>The Chasm is the worst map of all time because you half to walk across thin platforms
>Sigils cool because your challenged by various thin platforms
Childhood is liking Gman
Adulthood is liking Civvie
Enlightenment is realizing both their opinions are hot dog shit

>> No.5620932

good idea

Even better.

>> No.5620936

Yes she looks terrible. Something that could only be made in 2019 cuck timeline.

See here come the futa fags, worse at this point than even furries.

>> No.5620938

Many people love the fancy graphical features of modern ports of Doom, Quake and Duke. It's just that high res textures on rough hewn primitive surfaces looks like fucking ass.

>> No.5620939

>Yes she looks terrible.

>> No.5620942
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most of these visual graphic mods feel like they're made with this idea in mind
>this looks old so it's bad
so they change the game simply for the sake of "modern graphics" without considering it making it look right or even thinking of an actual art style over realism
you can see the flaws
>high res image in a flat surface/wall
>different resolutions clashing
>poorly draw images
>effects that don't fit the context of certain textures
>effecst that make things harder to see (which is in someway relevent, considering og doom's art style ties into feedback and making items stand out from miles away, so aesthetic = "language" at times)
>3d models and so on
i prefer stuff like actual sprite fixes, additional sprites/frames, good pixal art and even shit like making the zombiemen sound different, because that can fit the game and be executed since there's always some form of effort in it
it's a case of "bad idea, worse execution" because the people behind it don't go anywhere else besides thinking old graphics are just bad
same thing with those mario/zelda unity remakes that tank the framerate and use assets from anywhere else. when they could have at least follow an art style that fit the devs' direction or at least resembles the concept/promo art like this final fantasy 7 mod
they're the game equivalent of disney live action remakes, because some people are allergic to anything that doesn't look "real", even if the "real deal" looks worse

>> No.5620953

There is another model pack for FF/ that actually makes the game really nice, because its not too much HD, its just a better version of the combat models.

And I am not a big FF7 fan.

>> No.5620961

True ascended tier is thinking for yourself and only watching e-celebs for entertainment value.

>> No.5620971

You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

>> No.5620973

the art is kinda bad, tho

>> No.5620976

D4D is trying to be Eternal already, and it's awful.

It's stripping out Doom 4 stuff in the attempt too.

>> No.5620986

Dumb question
How would you pronounce/write the zombie gib sound from quake?

>> No.5620987
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Remember to check out Hedon's impressive collection of official artwork.

>> No.5620989

Horns, pink hair. Muscle. Its like an amalgam of shit fetishes.

>> No.5620992

[Various squelching sounds]

>> No.5620994 [DELETED] 

*/v/igger caterwauling*

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>> No.5621001

Hey, if such things work for each of the Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Half-life, Minecraft, and maybe Thief games, why can't they work with the Quake, Duke Nukem, Shadow Warrior, Blood, and RN Rampage games?

>> No.5621004


>> No.5621007

I hear more of a nom at the end, is it just me?

>> No.5621008

Developer seems to post most of his degeneracy on hentaifoundry, google it with hedon and you'll find it all.

>> No.5621012

That could be it. I was really focused on the squishing noises, didn't thoroughly listen to the vocalization part.

>> No.5621016

>Like 7 pics
>Mostly of some random green chick who is bland and ugly

>> No.5621024

You've got to click the filter button and opt in for all the filth, there's pages of it, even body pillows.

>> No.5621025

what is hexercise
all i can find is a forum post about it+woc, a mod i dont like, no info on what hexercise actually is.

>> No.5621028

No one likes that shit. The closest thing that's accepted is newdark abandoning software rendering.

>> No.5621029

Difference is that Sigil's catwalks are few and far between, and generally short. Chasm is an entire map of them, many of which are fairly long.

And I'm someone who actually likes Chasm

>> No.5621034

Adaptation of Brutal Hexen, I think, it's quite old.

You'll probably find it on the sentinel's playground.

>> No.5621036

If you're into 90's era mapping, you might get a kick out of some of its maps. Otherwise, you're not really missing out.

>> No.5621037

Maybe I need to make an account or something because that did nothing. It already opted into nearly everything by default
That or it only displays like 7 pics per screen and I ain't seeing the next page button

>> No.5621039


>> No.5621040

I am actually fine with ddfix and the basic texture patch.
There is also a texture pack for Thief 2 that is faithful to the original textures. And does not look jarring.

The problem is going full HD.

>> No.5621042

I'm not really sure what the "90's era mapping" ethos is about. I've played some 90's maps, some 00's maps, some 10's maps, but I didn't really have the trained eye to notice major patterns

Would you care to explain what sort of "style" you see in each of those?

>> No.5621046

> In a pinch, you can also punch a projectile back to its sender.
thanks i will try this

>> No.5621051

You don't, it's just almost are futa, I did say it was degenerate.

>> No.5621052

90's was more vanilla style but designed to be more challenging for the most part.
00's is what introduced slaughter maps. There may have been some earlier but the 00's is where they blew up and now every other popular wad has rooms with 10 gorillion enemies.
It works sometimes, I think Skillsaw's maps are generally pretty good and reward good play but for the most part I prefer older wads.

>> No.5621059

why did you have to mention his name
I want to play Ancient Aliens again now

>> No.5621064

Why adapt at all? They're sounds in a video game.

>> No.5621065

Have you played Lunatic? It's really short but it's got a nice theme to it, I enjoyed it a lot.

>> No.5621071

>Illegal bullshit doesn't stick around forever

>> No.5621072


>> No.5621074

ahhh I needed to click a tiny ass button to confim thanks
awful ui on that site

>> No.5621076

Never heard of it. If it's got my boy's work in it though that's an easy download.

>> No.5621086

>why'd they change it from Bombshell in the first place?

Because 'Bombshell' implies sex appeal, and they're a bunch of woke faggot virtue signallers, so they stripped all of that out.

>> No.5621087

wasn't it a name of a game that flopped?

>> No.5621089

>2 pages of hedon art
>Mostly just the same few pics with 5000 'variations' consisting of dialogue pages
Can I use her dck which is larger than her own body to rape people in hedon? Or is that not canon.

>> No.5621094

>What's that sound?
>Oh okay that's how Lost Souls sound now

>> No.5621095

>Ion Maiden is probably getting renamed

They should redo Shelly's sprite to make make her asian and call it Ion Gaiden

>> No.5621097

Probably this. She will be the blandest of the build trio.

>> No.5621098

a top-down shootemup
they decided to go with that as their official not-really-tie-in instead of the current ion maiden
why? because douk as a whole has been in bad hands (literally) since forever

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Hair trigger on that nthere's nothing here

>> No.5621107

>they get sued by tecmo now

>> No.5621112

The thing most "HD MOD" guys do not understand is that game's visuals should be either properly stylized OR be at the same universal level of fidelity in all areas to look good.

High fidelity textures do not look good on low fidelity structures/models.
High fidelity structures/models don't look good with low fidelity textures plastered on them
High poly models need to have good animation

TES mods look fine because the difference between model fidelity and texture is not as large as in Doom's case, or they update the models too to fit the bill.

Minecraft's aestethic are really weird so having GOOD high-res textures (of which there are very few) does not look all that weird compared to the rest of the game (though I still preferred stylised 32x or 64x packs when i still played it)

Doom/Duke/etc. HD mods do not look good since they do not (and can not) update the invironmental fidelity to match, and the model formats and the way objects act in those engines make it really hard to make good animations for so much that nobody interested in modding has enough actual skill to pull that off.

>> No.5621115

Sure looks like it's canon.

>> No.5621128 [DELETED] 

So she´s a tranny?

>> No.5621129

it's pretty much more or less how i felt about it.

>another jab at randy
i can only imagine what video kind of he's going to put out if or when randy goes to jail.

>> No.5621134

IIRC it was originally intended to be a Duke game but Randy "do magic tricks on stage to try and keep people from finding out I'm a pedo" Pitchford sued them and they changed it to a supporting character who was going to be the sidekick in Duke Nukem Forever and 3D Realms still had the rights to.

>> No.5621135

can't you fucking retards go on without tainting a single thread with your retardation

>> No.5621138

Dunno, looks like there's lore to it, on some pages, I don't dare delve deeper.

>> No.5621145

Why its just an observation. Have you played it? has nothing on Caleb or Duke.

Game itself is good.

>> No.5621147

damn, you're correct about everything in life.

>> No.5621148

Probably the best for Duke since Bombshell ended up being a flop / panned game.
Would you really want to play as a bimbo with her tits out anyways? Are you an autogynephile?

>> No.5621151


>> No.5621156

>more like bombed, fell off of steam charts
>ion maiden
>more like got sued lmao
>more like based and cute futa mommi

>> No.5621158

because the original bombshell wasn't well received and they wanted to distance themselves from it.

i wouldn't be surprised if ion maiden (or whatever it'll be called if they lose that case) is successful then i imagine that they were probably gonna treat bombshell like it never happened.

kinda like how capcom practically retconned DMC2 out of existence by making every game take place before it (although i think 5 takes place after it).

>> No.5621159 [DELETED] 

Don't reply to discord trannies pls
Is there decent interest in Hexen overhauls? Not maps or anything but gameplay. Seems like every attempt just gets abandoned or something but the game really is just begging for it IMO.

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>No Marv-eller
He's pretty comfy

>> No.5621163

>Don't reply to discord trannies pls
you are actively contributing to the worsening quality of these threads

>> No.5621165

I'd give you a serious reply to this but you managed to blow the fuck out of yourself before you typed it. Now go the fuck back to your home board, mayobreath.

>> No.5621174

They don't care.

>> No.5621176

Who are you to even attempt to control us, the many?

>> No.5621178 [DELETED] 

>immediately two trannies out themselves
Fuck's sake he didn't even post good bait.

>> No.5621179 [DELETED] 

why do i have a feeling you are also white...

>> No.5621180

>ican only imagine what kind of video he's going to put out if or when randy goes to jail.
goddamn it what the fuck is wrong with me?

>> No.5621186

>gets called out
>Fuck's sake he didn't even post good bait.

You sure do have a low opinion of yourself.

>> No.5621191

Funny how this has become something you need to remind people of.

>> No.5621193 [DELETED] 

Shoving a dildo into your open wound will never make you a woman. Stop being retarded and talk about retro FPS you deranged future suicide statistic.
P.S. actually not that guy

>> No.5621194

oh yeah I forgot about Marv
Last video was like 4 months ago

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You fuckos going at it again?

Dont make me bring out the big guns again
Dont fucking make me

>> No.5621208 [DELETED] 

And you will never be a cute grill.

>> No.5621210 [DELETED] 

>unironic christcuck cope

Oh nononono

>> No.5621212

So any talk of Hedon results in a shitstorm.
I should take note of that

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>> No.5621218

Yeah it's almost like there are dedicated groups from outside this site who won't shut the fuck up about it because they're literally insane. Is the paid version even out yet? I want to give it a pirate and see what the fuss is about. I don't give a fuck if I'm some futa demon if the gameplay is good.

>> No.5621221

Is there even really any notable differences between the paid and free versions? I highly doubt it.

>> No.5621223
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Ok, here we go again


>> No.5621228

Just play Doom

>> No.5621230

I thought it was getting new content or something. Wasn't that why everyone was mad? I wasn't going to pay for it either way but I figured the issue was that the author was locking updated content behind a paywall.

>> No.5621238

It's not that bad but the dude is still charging like 10 USD for a GZDoom wad staring his futanari OC donut steal character.
You can find a dozen higher quality wads available for no charge all over the internet.

>> No.5621240

I find it funny that the protagonist of Hedon is based on the author's own sexual fantasies, and that he tried to scrub it all away.

>> No.5621242

I did play Trespasser already.

>> No.5621247

>Feels full
>Look at tits
>Shoot some dinosaurs
>Look at tits
>Look at tits
>Drop gun by accident
>Look at tits
>Pick up gun
>Look at tits
>Look at tits

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You won't do shit you nigger.

>> No.5621256 [DELETED] 

I bet Shodan today would be a tranny as well.

I really loved that broken ass game for some reason. The physics were so ahead of its time that when HL 2 came around was just meh.

And I liked the narration.

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>> No.5621272

okay now you listen here you piece of shit
you are incorrect and also homosexual

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pistol starting each episode of sigil is a treat, if the treat was cyanide

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unfucked next thread


>> No.5621298

I fucking love that game. I wish it got multiplayer and some better maps...

>> No.5621301

Sigil's free now. You can finally play it! The wait is ov-
Why the hell did you wait?

>> No.5621302

Bit early isn't it?

>> No.5621305

then who the fuck is? oliva? that dyke from doom 3?

those are only other girls in doom that aren't demons.

i agree with you on the revenants but graf seriously needs to quit the internet for like at least a year he'll feel much better for it.

>> No.5621309

They did a okay job of it, better than some science fiction/fantasy authors I've read, just looks like generic heavy metal trollbabe stuff to the casual observer. The cringy "boomercore" description will probably be a bigger turn-off.

>> No.5621312

The thief 2 pack is pretty meh. Anything over a certain res looks wrong imo. At least the thief 2 pack is faithful though.

>> No.5621320

She looks horrible. Unfeminine as possible without just being a man, then he gave her a dick and balls.
Plus the art is bad.
Except the title screen art, that's actually really cool looking.

>> No.5621321

>Plus the art is bad.
Stop stop he's already dead

>> No.5621326

what was the bump limit on this board again?

>> No.5621328

I'll beat this dead horse-cocked monstrosity for as long as I want!
The textures are nice. The sprites are shit, mostly, and the characters head is too small.

>> No.5621329


>> No.5621330

it's like 300, but we usually do new threads at page 8 or 9 because of the low post rate

>> No.5621335

alright I'll keep that in mind
I just didn't want to see another OP with just "DOOM THREAD" as the tile but ah whatever

>> No.5621341

So, nobody gonna talk about proyect brutality 3?

>> No.5621347

That's a shame. Now I'm worried that this game is going to get trashed.

>> No.5621349

i thought it got nuked by a disgruntled ex-member of the team.

>> No.5621350

so this is the prequel to Doom Remake 4?

>> No.5621354

If you've played TNT before, most 90's community wads were similar to that. Generally not much harder than Doom 2, slow-moderate pacing in most levels, and difficulty increases very steadily.

00's era was when Plutonia and Hell Revealed influences became more prevalent in wads, largely thanks to Alien Vendetta. Generally when the trend of megawads having difficulty spikes in the final third began.

10's era I'd say saw an increase in Scythe 1&2 influenced wads. As you may have noticed lots of modern megawads like to split episodes up with death exits, and a few here and there that add in additional monsters. Also plenty of slaughter maps that were influenced heavily by Sunder and Deus Vult 2.

>> No.5621363

Not fucking retro

>> No.5621368

Its alive and well. Its got all the things that make a modern shooter subjectively good, nauseating blur, weapon inspecting, varieties, upgrades and some other things i forget.

>> No.5621370

There he is! He posted it! Look!

>> No.5621383

I like how the HUD is already visible when the animation of the player putting the helmet on starts

its like putting a second helmet on, classy

>> No.5621386

2x armor

>> No.5621387
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More crazy impossible nonsense.
Cone of sight? Gray out things you don't see.

>> No.5621410

only watched up to the end of level 1.

i like the dual pistols, axe throwing & "parkour" elements but i'm not really crazy about everything else like putting the helmet on at the start of the level, weapon prep every time you get a new weapon and the screen tilting when you throw a grenade.

i'll wait until it's released for real to see if you can turn that shit off otherwise i'll stick with PB 2.0

reminds me of how the player character of fallout 4 has a hud & VATS before you get the pipboy even though that's all supposed to be tied to your pipboy in universe.

>> No.5621415

looks fun. I'd love to run it on some slaughtermemes

>> No.5621420

Trespasser was way too ahead of it's time to actually work right.

Still it was interesting, probably would mostly work as a VR game now.

>> No.5621465

Breaking new ground. Nice use of license money. They did a good job. Jank is to be expected.
Nice digits, bruh.

>> No.5621473

>Plus the art is bad.
>Except the title screen art, that's actually really cool looking.

The dev is not good with anatomy or perspective. A shame, really, because his texture art is all on point.

>> No.5621495

>The Forgotten Sprites
Haven't heard of this. Where can I get the wad?

>> No.5621543

If you google around there's a matching version on a suspect Russian site, it got pulled from Seam because it had Doom2.wad in it, and ripped stuff from UFO Enemy Uknown and Star Wars.

Wouldn't advise playing it though, it's painful.

>> No.5621551

Title screen is commisioned art, I forget who did it though.

The texture and world sprites in general are really nice, it's a shame they make bad use of some stuff and then the player/monster sprites are really not good.

Makes me feel like they'd do incredibly well as part of a Rekkr-style project, not so much as a pure solo thing.

>> No.5621557

If I learn some more coding I might try to merge this with that Wayfarer mod and see what the results are

Its probably going to be a train wreck

>> No.5621561
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Nigga, I can't even play DRLA and DRPG on the latest version of GZDoom

>> No.5621568

You're always best off using developer-supported versions when possible, regardless of the demands Graf's ego makes of users and developers needing to be on the latest version.

>> No.5621574

Very much this. In fact this is standard practice when dealing with software professionally. Nobody just grabs some library off github and always uses latest, they grab a version that works and build around it. Graf is a retarded monkey if he thinks that people should always use the latest version of an already complete software for development of addons to that software.

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>> No.5621634

Some do when stability and legacy support are pretty much a guarantee, but those are concepts that exist a long way away from GZDoom.

>> No.5621637

There's a somewhat semantic difference between developing for a version and supporting it. I've never seen a professional software where the target version of something whose code wasn't under the direction control of the devs was "latest".

>> No.5621667

Developing for experimental dev builds. What could possibly go wrong?

>> No.5621696

Isn't that what Marisa does?

>> No.5621703

>nolifer who's friends with all of Graf's tardwranglers does thing nobody else should do
You could argue he has the code under his control honestly. Or her. Whatever.

>> No.5621781

Sigil starts to get really good by e5m3

>> No.5621929

I didn't care for the outdoor map with the 2 cyberdemons as much as the first... 2... 3? maps? I don't know what map I'm on. Around halfway through.

>> No.5621952

Thats my favourite map, personally.

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SiGil should be included in a new collected version of DOOM.

>> No.5622359

So what's the deal with Quake 2?

Why does it just feel.... Off? There's something wrong with it. It was rushed development right? It feels kinda stiff. Even though it has full animation compared to Quakes like 10 frames or whatever it had. The actual enemy animations and weapons are so stiff and janky.

Like I hate... HATE seeing that piddly little pistol blaster being fired. It looks like shit.

>> No.5622364

Glorified tech demo to promote PC hardware at the time, what could have been right?

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I want to draw that Q2 final secret room scene but have too much commissions in my backlog.

>> No.5622380
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Also look at this useless motherfucker.

What were they THINKING with this guy? He's worthless. He can't even attack while running so this piece of shit runs up to you, stops, and then slowly takes a swing at you. While your already ten steps away.
He's so pointless I actually shocked in the 1 of every 500 attacks actually hit you. Maybe because you got backed into a wall by a greande launcher enemy that's actually threatening.

Im convinced they fucked the code up for this guy because it can't be intended for them to be this shit.

And the worst part is that after they first appear in game they are like 80% of the enemies that appear in the next 2 levels. Immediately dragging the fun and challenge of the game to a halt.

The game would be so much more fun if every one of these cunts was replaced with literally any other enemy. In fact, are there any mods that do just that? I think I want to play that.

>> No.5622382

so you guys uploaded the paid sigil OST ?

>> No.5622384

Like imagine losing the Stroggification lottery and you pull this short fucking straw.

"Oh hey guys, did everyone get your Strogg allocation?"
"Yeah I'm going to be a rail gun guy on those bipedal legs"
"Oh nice one Steve, that's a good one. What about you Mark?"
"Oh I got the head drone. I always wanted to fly so I'm pretty chuffed"
"That's wonderful Mark, I'm happy for you. I'm a grenade launcher myself. Those guys are pretty intimidating. so looks like we all got good pi.... Oh... Uhh hey Dave, uh, what did you get"
"Umm... I got uhh.... Melee spike guy."
"D-dave... Im... I'm so sorry, man. That's.... That's rough dude I'm not gonna lie to you. Listen... not everyone can g-"
"No, no it's fine I get it. Someone has to be that role. *Sobs*
"Hey, maybe if you get a kill, maybe even just one they might upgrade you, you never know. keep your chin up, Dave."

>> No.5622406

>Changing Lighting from "Dark" to "Software" makes it slightly better

Makes it even darker outside of light circle though.

There's an unspoken competition in Russian gamedev.ru community on what kind of turd they can push onto Steam
In one of prior threads there was a link to the projects gamedev page.

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I was just gonna ask if I should use software for sigil, it seems darker than intended w "hardware accel"

>> No.5622420

>Why does it just feel.... Off? There's something wrong with it. It was rushed development right?
Actually, the opposite.

Quake 1's development was this weird mess where it was gonna be an open world fantasy RPG, except Romero, who was going to be driving the development of this ambitious game he had in mind, really didn't, and development stalled a lot (didn't help that Carmack was actually struggling to figure out how to make proper 3D rendering work, mind this was in the days before hardware acceleration and graphics cards).
It was decided later that Quake's development really wasn't working out, and all they had to show for it was an engine that was eventually ready, along with a bunch of textures and models, so since deadline was uncomfortably close, it was decided by majority that they'd just take what they had and transform it into something they knew, a shooter, to have a game done for deadline, the idea being to go for something more ambitious later.

Romero hated this direction, which is why he opted to leave (depending on who you ask, he was also fired), but he did finish his work on Quake.
Quake 2 was started after Romero left, and though it actually wasn't a more ambitious and imaginative direction like they had promised themselves with Quake 1's compromise (aside from more technically more advanced graphics and gameplay), this time there really was a serious focus on what they wanted to do, and it shows. Quake 2 feels much more coherent, and it feels like it has a beginning and an end, with bossfights and everything, compared to Quake 1 just kind of starting and stopping awkwardly at places.

As for everything feeling wobbly and weird, it's probably because Quake 2 was still vertex animated like Quake, but had more advanced and defined models, and this just looks weird. There's a reason skeletal animations (see Half-Life) have reigned supreme, they're just way easier to animate with and produce way better results.

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>> No.5622440

Looks cool af. Very Alienish and Gigerian.

>> No.5622443




1>2 (yes really, despite having superior lighting effects Quake 2 rarely makes good use of it. Majority of the game take place in fully bright lit rooms. Where Quake makes good use of its map lighting


1>2 (the grenade is the worst weapon in all of Quake. Recoil on machine gun, shitty blaster etc)

1>2 (some stroggs are worthless, others look goofy as fuck)

Maps/level design

>> No.5622447

Iron Maiden always liked money. Also they should have retired 20 years ago. Fucking boomers.

>> No.5622450

Oh yeah, won't argue that, Quake 1 is a much more fun game, but its development was a weird mess and you can see that on the base game.
Meanwhile, Quake 2 stuck to the road from beginning to end, and it looks much more finished and polished as a whole.

>> No.5622554

Has nothing to do with id or Bethesda though.

>> No.5622563

I want to lick her asshole

>> No.5622593

Where get Quake 2 user maps?

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