Jet Force Gemini

[Anonymous No.5617456]

Was rescuing the tribals at the end of the game really that bad?
Almost everyone i've met that played this game said that they dropped the game because of the tribals.

[Anonymous No.5617480]

No, it's basically just a reason to force you to explore the new levels you can get to only with certain characters or with jetpacks. They're not particularly hard to find and as long as you prioritize the brown drones that shoot them on purpose and don't fire off explosive weapons they're not in much danger of being killed.

They probably shoul'd have just let you get like 80% of them and call it a day, but it's really not as big of a deal as people make it out to be.

[Anonymous No.5617487]

>>5617456
Only when you had to be mindful of killing them in crossfires or stopping the black bugs from beating you to them. Most of the time, they weren't much different from finding the collectables in Banjo-Kazooie.

[Anonymous No.5617489]

No, it's just a parrot thing.
Finding the missing ship parts is more annoying but still not a deal-breaker.
Great game overall, people just needed an excuse to shit on it somehow.

[Anonymous No.5617545]

>>5617456
Also, lame Vela image.

>Memories of walking her against walls so the camera zooms in on her boingy bits

[Anonymous No.5617557]

>>5617545
>lame
You must have ridiculously high standards. I think she looks great

[Anonymous No.5617768]

>>5617456
I just remember some boss kicking my ass as the dog over and over, and I just kind of gave up.

[Anonymous No.5617801]

>>5617456
I really, really wish there was a remake of this game with modern third person shooter controls. JFG's controls are fair but strange, and I find them hard to go back to. What a shame, this is one of the best games on the N64, maybe the best, seriously, especially if you get deep in the multiplayer with your bros

[Anonymous No.5617848]

>>5617801
The soundtrack was highy underrated too. Easily one of Rare's best.

[Anonymous No.5617865]

>>5617801
They did it in Rare Replay, and if anything, it actually made the game harder to play. JFG was simply not made to be played without the N64 controller.

[Anonymous No.5617883]

>>5617480
>They're not particularly hard to find and as long as you prioritize the brown drones that shoot them on purpose and don't fire off explosive weapons they're not in much danger of being killed.

I feel like you're understating it a little bit. So many parts of the game try to trick you into accidentally killing a tribal with those dumb barrels or putting drones really close so you might accidentally hit one. You could end up replaying the same area over and over again. Luckily you don't have to replay the entire level as they segment them up so you can restart smaller chunks, but at the end of the day its more padding on Rare's part to artificially extend the game. Its annoying since they didn't even need to do it, the game is pretty fucking long for a single player shooter with a huge variety of levels. I must have had like 100+ hours in that game by the time I reached the final boss.

[Anonymous No.5617891]

>>5617489
collecting all the tribals is just how you get one of the ship parts though. it's just an annoying way to do an end-game collectathon that was meant as an excuse to revisit all the old levels as new characters, because getting the ship parts would have been enough, but they had to add a sub-collectathon on top of the collectathon.

[Anonymous No.5617918]

>>5617545
Vela looked like some goddamn ayy lmao shit and not in a good way

[Anonymous No.5617927]

>>5617918
pleb

[Anonymous No.5618181]

>>5617456
I never finished the ship parts. There were like two pieces I never got, one of which I was from rescuing all the tribals. Rare seem to be good at this in my experience, getting the Nintendo coin in DK64 was a serious chore. That aside, the game was immersive and expansive enough that I wasn't too bothered by missing out on the final final boss.

[Anonymous No.5618196]

>>5617848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-waWoL-iX0

It really was. Vela's route was the coolest.

[Anonymous No.5618650]

>>5617865
>it actually made the game harder to play
Really? Can you tell me about why?

[Anonymous No.5618678]

>>5618650
Aiming in Rareware games has absolute range instead of relative range.
If you move the control stick 50% to the right the sight reticle will move 50 units and autocenter if you let go instead of moving 50 units more from the last position. This works fine on the N64 controller but doesn't translate well to a modern xbox analog.

[Anonymous No.5618701]

>>5618678
I think this is the case with most N64 games that require aiming. I remember having a hard time with Sin and Punishment on Wii using a GC controller.

[Anonymous No.5618726]

>>5617456
> Was rescuing the tribals at the end of the game really that bad?
yes

> Almost everyone i've met that played this game said that they dropped the game because of the tribals.
yes

im no slouch either; if you know what this screen means.

[Anonymous No.5618728]

Theres a part of me that really wishes where we got an Gamecube sequel where it smoothed out the problems the first game had and we get the Jet Force crew in those Fifth gen graphics.

I wonder how Vela's assets would of looked like.

[Anonymous No.5618757]

>>5618728
I feel like a lot of ideas from Jet Force Gemini were later done better in Ratchet and Clank

[Anonymous No.5618759]

[Anonymous No.5618804]

>Was rescuing the tribals at the end of the game really that bad?
Yes.
Going back through previous levels in a game because you _want_ to fuck off and look for hidden shit and 100% it is fine, _making_ the player go back and 100% the game is bullshit. What are we supposed to do after we've beat the game then? The game's already forced us to find damned near everything. Every other path, cliff, jump, we've done it.
It's also artificial content, instead of giving us more to do, the game devs just force us to do the same shit over and over again. That shit's not hard, it fucking boring.

Also, it didn't fit the game's story at all, and made me think the tribals were a bunch of greedy, self-absorbed fucknuggets.
>JFG crew behind enemy lines
>alone, damaged, they fight on, because it's the right thing to do
>What happens in this star system is isolated, Earth is safe, they have no reason to put themselves on the line
>two under equipped teenagers and their fucking dog selflessly risk everything to stop Mizar from fucking the place up
>kick Mizar's ass, send him running
>running to earth
>because reasons
>ohfuck.jpg
>the fucking sucking God damned tribal leader knows this
>"Oh hey guys, thanks for saving our everything, Mizar's heading for YOUR home now to fuck shit up
>I've got an interstellar ship You could use, but I'm not letting you have it unless You fuck off and find literally every chucklefuck tribal that went missing. go fuck off for a few weeks.
>right now.
>while YOUR homeworld is in danger.

It just didn't work.

[Anonymous No.5618815]

Even as a little baby who had no problem grinding out games, jfj made me quit with it's idiotic endgame collectathon. It's one of the few games I owned as a kid that I never bothered finishing

[Anonymous No.5618818]

>>5618728
I think she's cuter in low poly. Her CGI render creeps me out.

[Anonymous No.5618820]

>Jollyjack of all people pitched a Jet Force Gemini webcomic to Rare.

[Anonymous No.5618824]

>>5618678
I'm sorry I must be stupid but I don't quite understand the distinction between absolute and relative range. Don't you want the reticle to autocenter when you let go (resetting the stick to neutral)? I guess I might not know how an n64 stick differs from a modern stick

[Anonymous No.5619834]

>>5618824
The N64 stick has finer analog control than modern sticks, so it's easier for the stick and reticle to move 1:1 with each other, which is how they did aiming in N64 games. Modern sticks have fewer points that register along the analog gradient, so they're better suited to a situation where the stick just accelerates the reticle slow/medium/fast in the direction you push it with the reticle locked to the center of the screen.

[Anonymous No.5619850]

>>5617557
>>5617545
just okay from the waist up, but those are S-class legs

[Anonymous No.5620035]

>>5619850
You know if they remade it they would give her a completely different outfit.

[Anonymous No.5620090]

>Miyamoto told Rare to redesign Juno and Vela so they're more adult-looking as opposed to their initial chibi designs
Madman.

[Anonymous No.5620098]

Say what you want about the tribal shit and ship part hunt, but JFG has a lot of soul put into it.

[Anonymous No.5620228]

If anyone is interested, I will play through the tribal hunt part of the game for you (you pay shipping and handling) so you can see the true ending of the game.

[Anonymous No.5620250]

Is there a final solution to the N64 replacement stick question yet? I've been out of the game for a couple years.

[Anonymous No.5620334]

I think its funny they meant for Vela to be some kinda of fanservice. Constant upskirt shots and even boob jiggle. But she really doesnt look good in game

[Anonymous No.5620361]

>>5617768
The difficulty shift of the Mechantids vs the other two bosses is hysterical. I know how to beat them now, but it still takes effort. Juno's and Vela's bosses i shred to pieces without even trying.

[Anonymous No.5620367]

>>5617848
This. I still can't believe they made all that music was fucking midi. it was so good

[Anonymous No.5620370]

>>5619834
That makes sense, thank you spaceman

[Anonymous No.5620373]

>>5620334
Rare never made sexy girls, even furfags don't like their furbait sans for Krystal.

[Anonymous No.5620380]

>>5618726
>i never could get past the attack ship on perfect
I envy you. Knowing there's always one level ive never been able to play. I didn't unlock Egyptian Temple in golden eye until a few years ago and i can't begin to tell you how giddy i was to play something new in an old game i loved.

[Anonymous No.5620384]

>>5620373
I'm not a furry, but i've always liked Krystal... am I in denial?

[Anonymous No.5620389]

>>5620384
No, not at all.
Being a furfag is wearing those costumes or all that other weird crap.

[Anonymous No.5620442]

>>5620384
No, but she was definitely a gateway for many. I gotta admit she's the only anthrophomorphic female character that i actually thought was kind of sexy. Maybe it was the blue? The accent? The goddamn silly sexy saxophone that played whenever Fox looked at her? I dunno... fucking cheeky brits.

[Anonymous No.5620457]

>>5620334
>I think its funny they meant for Vela to be some kinda of fanservice
It worked, everyone who played it remember Vela.
Also, what about her model looks bad? The face looks uncanny up close, but her body looks fine, and anyway most of the time you will be staring at pic related.

[Anonymous No.5620467]

>>5620457
I always preferred to play as Juno if there was no special ability requirement. Dunno, i just felt his movement animations felt better with the running pace (ignoring the slinky legs stride). I think it was also because i loved sprayign death with the machine gun and he was using it in all the promotional art.

[Anonymous No.5620781]

>>5620334
Most of the flaws in Vela's models comes from the limitations of the N64 hardware.

[Anonymous No.5620786]

>>5620781
5th gen in general, more like. But what's exactly wrong about her model anyway?

[Anonymous No.5621050]

>>5620786
For me her head is way too large, her legs are too long, and her torso is way too small. I know its supposed to be cartoony, I find it serviceable but not good.