/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5614754]

Sometimes accurate doesn’t mean better.

[Anonymous No.5614759]

>>5614754
if your complaint is that the colors look wrong, how are they accurate?

???

[Anonymous No.5614762]

>>5614759
They’re wrong in that they offend me by how shit they look.

[Anonymous No.5614770]

>>5614754

[Anonymous No.5614773]

>>5614754
They're not accurate; the box of Super Mario Bros. had BLUE skies. It's blue, not fucking purple. It was also BLUE for the arcade version which came out before the American version, not to be confused with the other arcade version that came out after previously mentioned games and also has BLUE skies.

[Anonymous No.5614775]

>>5614770
The upper-right corner is correct.

[Anonymous No.5614778]

>>5614773
Its purpleish blue on crts.

[Anonymous No.5614781]

>>5614773
someone post the interview of miyamoto talking about SMB's purple sky to btfo of this guy

[Anonymous No.5614782]

Vc was darkish like grim n gritty.

[Anonymous No.5614786]

[Anonymous No.5614790]

>>5614778
>Its purpleish blue on crts.
No, ig'n'nt zoomer scum. CRTs do not dictate the wrong color palette like modern TVs. With a CRT you can have anything be any color at all, easily.

[Anonymous No.5614792]

>>5614781
He can go fuck himself too because he's wrong. Creative people tell odd lies and even manufacture evidence to back up their insanity.

[Anonymous No.5614793]

>>5614782
>Vc was darkish
All VC NES games were darkened. Some believe it was an epilepsy counter measure.

[Anonymous No.5614794]

>>5614754
That's the way they look playing on a real NES.

[Anonymous No.5614795]

It's impossible to get a 100% accurate NES palette because not only will different TVs render colors slightly differently, but different PPU revisions also have slightly different palettes.

[Anonymous No.5614797]

>>5614793
It's because they didn't want people burning in their TVs with static images, which those game are full off, the anti-epilepsy have nothing to do with brightness, they just delete the strobe effect in parts that had it.

[Anonymous No.5614801]

>>5614792
>created the game
>he's wrong.

[Anonymous No.5614804]

>>5614792
This is next level cope. Like, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.5614805]

>>5614795
>but different PPU revisions also have slightly different palettes.
True, but the canon of how it's supposed to look is the box (on the back), on the front of all NES boxes, and all television commercials, plus don't forget Nintendo Power.

[Anonymous No.5614807]

>>5614797
>the anti-epilepsy have nothing to do with brightness, they just delete the strobe effect in parts that had it.
I know they did this with SNES VC games but I haven't seen it with NES VC. Not saying they didn't do it, just that I've not seen it.

[Anonymous No.5614808]

>>5614790
>>5614792
Retards.

>>5614793
They also blurred off the pixels.

[Anonymous No.5614812]

>>5614804
It's just like Lucas saying he made the original Star Wars for kids. At best, the FAMICOM version of the game, was purple. Yay!

[Anonymous No.5614816]

>>5614805
All those western stuff is wrong. Smb3 box had w unused level.

[Anonymous No.5614817]

>>5614808
t. never owner a CRT

[Anonymous No.5614818]

>>5614816
>All those western stuff is wrong.
lol COPE

[Anonymous No.5614821]

>>5614817
>>5614818
Two zoomers fags.

[Anonymous No.5614826]

>>5614821
projection pure, uncut^

[Anonymous No.5614834]

>>5614754
Basically, NES systems, and famicoms for that matter, did not encode graphics in RGB values. Rather, they were encoded directly in NTSC. And composite/RF looks different on every single TV depending on the settings of that television and the model of NES/famicom. Some had a blue sky, some had a purplish one.

Shigeru Miyamoto has stated that he chose a "purple" as the intended color for the sky for reference, but that doesn't mean you ever necessarily saw it like that as a kid depending on your setup. Further complicating matters is the fact that every Virtual Console release of the game as well as the GBA port had a different palette implemented by whoever handled the emulator.

In sum, no matter what you do, you'll never have colors that perfectly resemble the original NTSC colors of a real NES, famicom, toploader, or Famicom AV. The FBX palettes are as close as we are going to get, but even those are just approximations. On my CRT using composite, sometimes the sky is purple and sometimes it's blue depending on the TV's settings and which of my NES systems or Famicoms I am using.

[Anonymous No.5614837]

Hello everyone.

[Anonymous No.5614839]

"Because of this relatively low signal quality, a lot of the pictures in Nintendo Power, on game boxes, TV commercials, in game manuals and anywhere else wanting the best picture quality possible were taken using a specialized expensive Famicom made by Sharp called the "Famicom Titler" which could output a proper S-Video signal (which in the 80's was pretty crazy) also do some subtitles and the like. This same hardware was also used in the Playchoice 10 arcade units which is why gutting them to make RGB NESes was popular before fit-for-purpose upgrade kits were made in recent years."

[Anonymous No.5614842]

>>5614775
Miyamoto wanted purple skies, zoom zoom.

[Anonymous No.5614845]

>>5614842
Purplish, not purple.

[Anonymous No.5614847]

>>5614805
>the Canon is the box
No

[Anonymous No.5614849]

>>5614839
Yup Purple.

I rom hacked mine to be red though.

[Anonymous No.5614853]

>>5614845
Mostly purple with some blue tint.

[Anonymous No.5614860]

>>5614770
left-middle and top-middle are only good ones. middle and right-middle make the browns look like poop

[Anonymous No.5614861]

>>5614847
Not an argument.

[Anonymous No.5614865]

>>5614837
Hey there. Today, I repeatedly punched the palm of my other hand at close range (approx. 3 inches). I've been left with bruises. I think I should use this technique the next time I'm in a ground and pound situation, as it seems effective. Yup.

[Anonymous No.5614871]

>>5614861
It 100% is an argument though

[Anonymous No.5614874]

>>5614871
You can't compare a stylized drawing, to actual pictures of a finished game.

[Anonymous No.5614876]

Purple.

[Anonymous No.5614879]

>>5614876
that's a shitty pic and its blue anyway

[Anonymous No.5614903]

>>5614879
Cope fag. Its purple.

Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.5614907]

>>5614903
Ah bloo bloo

[Anonymous No.5614936]

>>5614907
the cabinet actually was called vs. super mario bros

[Anonymous No.5614940]

>>5614790
imagine being this much of a zoomer

[Anonymous No.5614987]

>>5614936
It was both.

>>5614940
>imagine being this much of a zoomer
Why expose yourself like that?

[Anonymous No.5614990]

For an example, I had a Proscan 27" that rendered the yellow in this Zelda dungeon very close to how it appears in the screencap. Another TV I had (from the 70s no less) made it look much more orangey. I joked that it looked like the color of pee.

[Anonymous No.5615001]

Aqua on the 70s set looked much more blue.

[Anonymous No.5615004]

The third dungeon map is based.

[Anonymous No.5615273]

[Anonymous No.5615658]

>>5614770
I just put SMB in and lookigat my CRT (late 90s Trinitron, one of the cheaper ones) I get color most like the top right but less brightness. There's definitely some reddishness in the brown and brightness in the green that is somewhat unlike top center and very unlike center/middle right.

tl;dr top right is about what I get with my NES/CRT

[Anonymous No.5615671]

>>5614770
>>5614775
Purple skies are objectively correct.

[Anonymous No.5615682]

>>5614790
>>5614792
>>5614834
>>5614879
Once again people don’t understand how NTSC color works. It’s a specific standard for color. You can set your display to show the skies as green if you want, it doesn’t change the fact that on a properly calibrated set the skies will be tinted purple.

[Anonymous No.5615684]

>>5614770
First of all, disregard any of the orange ones, no NES looks like that. I'd argue that left shot in row two is the most accurate.

[Anonymous No.5615714]

Since there was a thread about this game. Screenshot looks RGB. I wonder what it was taken with?

[Anonymous No.5615725]

>complains about accuracy
>doesn't play on a CRT

[Anonymous No.5615729]

>>5615684
>t. never connected a NES to a trinitron

[Anonymous No.5615734]

>>5615729
>t. doesn’r know ntsc color is supposed to look the same across any display

[Anonymous No.5615738]

>>5614770
Bottom left or bottom right are the closest to how I remember it looking on my TV as a kid.

[Anonymous No.5615754]

>>5615734
It is if the TV follows the NTSC standard properly. Many don't, especially shitty or pre-90s sets.

[Anonymous No.5615764]

I think once I saw a NES hooked up to a TV in a flea market (but maybe it was also a NOAC, I don't remember) and the colors looked orange, but none of the TVs I've used my toaster with (three different CRTs and one Sony flat panel) looked like that.

[Anonymous No.5615847]

>>5614790
based retard

[Anonymous No.5615869]

>>5614770
Chaotic evil looks ok.
Also,I think these are all accurate,depending on the quality of you parents tv at the time.

[Anonymous No.5615890]

>>5615847
It was blue in the arcade, in the commercials, in the official Nintendo publications, and on the NES, oh summer child.

[Anonymous No.5615906]

>>5614990
>>5615869
TVs back then where so much less consistent than they are today.
Pls enjoy this extra (you)>>5614990

[Anonymous No.5615927]

>>5615906
By the 90s if you had a decent quality TV, the NTSC spec was followed with a lot higher accuracy.

[Anonymous No.5615957]

Super Mario Bros. skies are officially blue. It's been established, confirmed and evidenced across various sources and mediums.

[Anonymous No.5616000]

Virgins are actually citing advertising and marketing materials as abject truth over the programmer?
To everyone saying blue, go have sex.

[Anonymous No.5616006]

>>5615957
wrong nigger

[Anonymous No.5616009]

>>5615890
It STILL is blue in official Nintendo products, like Mario Maker 1 & 2.

[Anonymous No.5616016]

>>5616000
Have children. Also, the guy who created the .gif format says it's pronounced "jiff" even though it's the letter "g" "Jrafics"? Really? Creators can be wrong sometimes like anyone, even when relating to their own creations.

[Anonymous No.5616027]

>>5616006
Silence. You weren't alive back then and you only know Mario from Russian bootleg clones.

[Anonymous No.5616119]

>>5616016
Become a grandparent. Next you'll say Fahrenheit 451 is about censorship.

[Batowl No.5616126]

Blue usa, purple Japan.

Everyone wins.

[Anonymous No.5616189]

The artist clearly meant for it to be this color, but the NES was against the artist's true vision, & they had to settle with inferior colors.

[Anonymous No.5616195]

>>5616189
Bowser was a bull there, seriously. It's interesting that King Koopa's species wasn't even nailed down until he came to the States.

[Anonymous No.5616219]

>>5614770
Lawful good, lawful evil and chaotic evil are the best here. But chaotic neutral is closest to how it looked on my TV growing up and true neutral is close to how it looks on my c64 monitor now

[Anonymous No.5616234]

>>5614790

[Anonymous No.5616241]

>>5615714
My old roommate and I got to Thursday. That game is fucking terrible and the meme wears off after about 45 minutes, but we pushed through

[Anonymous No.5617336]

>>5616009
Nope. It’s a purplish shade of blue, just like how it was described here >>5614834

[Anonymous No.5617785]

>>5616189
>The artist
Yeah, the artist of the box art. Not Miyamoto. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.5617818]

This some high quality shitposting