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Hello people, GideonZhi, 730, and I have been working on translating this sfc game called Gokinjou Boukentai and we are currently at a standstill. In the meantime I am collecting info on the game. Does anyone happen to have access to information on the game? Such as manuals, comics, advertisements etc. It'll be much appreciated and would help gain motivation for the project

>> No.5614341

>>5614320
All I know about this game is that it is an RPG where you play as a pre school kid. Madou Monogatari already did that best. Does Gideon Zhi like pre school kids?

https://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=madou

>> No.5614357

>>5614341
Nah, I was the one who brought up the translation and he asked if he could help. I just liked it because it's very Mother-esque

>> No.5614371

>>5614357
You should talk him about doing Idea no Hi for more Mother inspired games.

>> No.5614382

>>5614371
I might, since Gokinjou isn't moving anywhere (which is partially my fault) I'll check of out

>> No.5614393

neat, I liked the idea of the job system and regenerating MP, good luck

PS: Finish the Madara 2 translation

>> No.5614409

>>5614357
>Mother-esque
You spoke the cursed words!
(At least you didn't say "Undervania" or something like that).

>> No.5614435

I would really like to play this Motherma

>> No.5614440

>>5614409
Oh yeah yeah, its Deltarunelike

Why are those the cursed words

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Gideon should probably finish some of his stalled projects before starting new ones.

>> No.5614540

>>5614534
Do not talk shit about my waifu.

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>>5614530

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>>5614320
http://www.gamingsanctuary.com/ggi_snes.html
here you can find a lot of useful stuff about this game

>> No.5614563

>>5614540

shittalk =/= constructive criticism

AeonGenesis has way too much shit in its backlog. If Gideon wants to be taken seriously, he needs to follow through with his committments, not reserve dozens of games, make 10% of progress in each of them, and then suspend progress on them indefinitely. That's not fair to anyone.

No point in asking for advice when you're going to shoot down anyone who says anything remotely negative to you. If that's how it's going to be, then take your thread and fuck off.

>> No.5614564

Gideon should probably finish blue sphere first.

>> No.5614580

Well Gid is the only one I have that can put the script in

>> No.5614603

Don't waste your time.

>> No.5614639

>>5614320
People here despise GideonZhi so get ready for more backlash.

>> No.5614683

>>5614320
It's a cute game, I own a physical copy of it.

And seconding what that other anon said. Finish MADARA2. Stop fucking sitting on games, and doing nothing with them Zhi.

>> No.5614902

>>5614320
Ghideon is starting another game? I'm shocked! :^)

>> No.5615008

>>5614683
So I'm guessing Gid is known for putting these off?

>> No.5615019

Fuck him and fuck you OP.

Hes a huge faggot.

>> No.5615093

>>5615019
I hadn't heard of him before I started work on it, I didn't know

>> No.5615098

>>5614683
You own a copy? Is it just the game?

>> No.5615312

>>5614320
why there isn't screencaps of the translation?

>> No.5615339

>>5614580

You're wasting your time. People have worked their asses off to provide Gideon with fully translated scripts, only for him to renege on those projects and put them on permanent hiatus.

The guy is a major douche. It's not just the fact that he puts so many things on hiatus, but the prevailing attitude among translators that no one else is allowed to work on translating a game if someone else has already taken it up. Since Gideon has dozens of works on reserve, no other groups want to take a shot at translating them because of the backlash it might generate.

>> No.5615445

>>5615019
this

>> No.5615479

>>5615008
I don't have the hate boner some people on here have for him, but It's his MO. Announce he is "translating" a game, then sit on it for years. MADARA2 for instance he announced back in 2007.

>>5615098
Complete. It's in storage with the rest of my SFC stuff.

>> No.5615514

>>5615339
>Coping
If Gideon wasn't miles ahead of the competition no one would be respecting his "claimed" games. The fact is that if Gideon is stuck on a project, then everyone else knows they sure as hell aren't going to succeed. But you keep up your boogieman fantasies and crying about not getting what you want.

>> No.5615525

I think we all knew this thread would get derailed at the mere mentioned of "GideonZhi"

you people need to stop acting like children, this thread isn't even about him

>> No.5615535

I love the Mother Quest subgenre

>> No.5615559 [DELETED] 

>>5615525
You'll never be a mother, stop LARPing, disgusting filth.

>> No.5615571 [DELETED] 

is this a good game for pedos?

>> No.5615573

>>5615559
cope

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>> No.5615626

>>5614320

There really needs to be a Nintendoretro project alongside segaretro. It would have all this kind of information.

>> No.5615628

http://www.dataland.sakura.ne.jp//gokinjo_boukentai_english.html

>> No.5615636

>>5615573
With your pedo-nursing arousal? KYS before you hurt someone.

>> No.5615645

>>5615636
S E E T H ! N G
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!
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>> No.5615646

>>5615636
oh grow up already. 75% of adults are pedos. maybe you don't wanna believe it but it's the truth.

>> No.5615661

>>5615646
>and that's a good thing!

>> No.5615681

>>5615645
>>5615646
kys

>> No.5615706

>>5615661
Yeah, it is a good thing. The female body OBJECTIVELY peaks before adulthood.

>> No.5615712

>>5615681
dilate

>> No.5615717 [DELETED] 

>>5615712
no one here wants to simulate your daily miserable tranny practices, get back to discord

>> No.5615720 [DELETED] 

>>5615717
have sex

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>>5614320
>>5614515
>>5614530
>>5614554
>>5614558
>>5615617
bros...

>> No.5615737 [DELETED] 

>>5615720
reported for low quality post...

>> No.5615739

>>5615737
you are not allowed to post "reported" you moron

congrats you played yourself kiddo

>> No.5615748 [DELETED] 

>>5615739
reported for trolling outside of /b/...

>> No.5615765

5615748
WTF are you even talking about, in a thread for fantranslations, namedropping mothers, LARPing, transgender people, pedophiles, nursing (?) furries, encouraging suicide, etc...

you're literally mentally ill, not to mention off topic lol

>> No.5615775

>>5614320
Why are you at a standstill? Do you not know how to translate something? Do you need to reference outside material in order to be certain about a line or something? If it's one of these, I'd be glad to lend a hand, I'm N1 certified and then some.
Or are your issues technical?
If you're at a standstill simply because the game isn't that good, and you can't find the motivation to do it, then perhaps you shouldn't be wasting your time on it?
>>5614563
Agreed, anon.

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>>5615775
>N1 certified and then some

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>>5615781
まあまあ、アノン君。我輩の尊したる時間の無駄遣いだが意識させらざるを得ないみたいねw

>> No.5615860

>>5615775
We're at a standstill because Gideon won't finish it for us

>> No.5615926

>>5614320
Welcome here, and thank you for bothering to translate this game.
Can you, in clear terms, explain how exactly is this project stalled?

Is Gideon waiting for you to translate text?
Are you waiting for him to insert parts of your translation, or extract new parts for you to translate?
Are you being "unreasonable" by making demands that require more hacking work on his part (such as proportional fonts, extending some parts, romhacking extravaganza like auto wrapping text and bold/italic kerned fonts, etc) and now you feel guilty about this? (if true you shouldn't feel guilty btw, but you also should learn to compromise if push comes to shove and this is going nowhere)

As long as you have your finished translations handy tidy and organized, you may (at the risk of pissing him off, but whatever, he often isn't as considerate to his translators and some projects take 15 years to release) get someone else to do it. Just don't involve Kotaku to try and shame him for not answering like with Mizzurna Falls, that actually made that situation worse. I'm not saying you shouldn't get someone else to do it, but do it discreetly.

>> No.5616054

>>5615926
Huh, we are waiting for item and move names, so that is correct. But sadly the other guy I'm working with doesn't want to ask anyone else yet, or else I would.

The basic translation is done, may need some editing though, but its still done enough for him to start

>> No.5616062

>>5615806
>t. 110 points

>> No.5616070

>>5614320
Best of luck with the translation.

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>>5616062
>>t. 110 points
pic related
Anyway, I scored like 145 or something, which was 92.9th percentile. Good enough for me, and I never claimed to have earned a perfect score. I'm sorry you failed your most recent attempt at the N3 and need to try to invalidate my success to make yourself feel better.
次回も頑張ってね、N3君。今度こそ合格するよ!

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>>5616105
Five months have passed since you took the test. Isn't that enough to calm down? By now you should be free of the DJT mindset that N1 makes you king.

And just for fun, I dug up my paper from two years ago. They give you much more to censor on the version given out in Japan.

>> No.5616159

>>5614558
Doctor is mai waifu.

>> No.5616367

Translators put too much focus on Sfc RPGs.

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>tfw lost my n2 certificate after moving so i can't use it to shitpost on 4chins
N1受けよっかな…
今夏の登録期間ってもう終わっちゃってる?

>> No.5616426

>>5616408
Better get that N1 or you'll get laughed at. And mimicking patterns you most likely leaned from anime is also pretty ridiculous.

>> No.5616570

>>5616426
>Better get that N1 or you'll get laughed at.
Figured as much.

>And mimicking patterns you most likely leaned from anime is also pretty ridiculous.
The fuck are you on about?

>> No.5616580

Gideon's existence really triggers this board

>> No.5616870

>>5616367
SNES rom hacking just has more tools than PS1 ISO hacking.

>> No.5616873

>>5615514
>then everyone else knows they sure as hell aren't going to succeed

This is just wrong though. When other hackers have decided to take up projects already reserved by Aeon, they've completed them in no time. But that's usually individuals or groups who have no real association with RHDN and don't give a shit about the scene's so-called ethics.

>> No.5616882

>>5616873
>Star Ocean Blue Sphere has been fully translated in French for a while

I guess Anglo fans either play in an Asian language or a Latin language.

>> No.5617216

>>5616873
If people already are taking his projects and completing them in no time, what is the problem then?

>> No.5617360

>>5616156
>not a perfect score
fuck off

>> No.5617405

>>5614371
>You should talk him about doing Idea no Hi
Idea no Hi bas a charm to it but the game is pretty infamous for being absolute shit. It was rushed as fuck in development and released horribly unfinished, it's not simething worth the time I would say.

>> No.5617796

>>5617216
I remember he once threw a public shit fit in the Romhacking dot net forums for someone releasing, just Mystery of the Emblem for the SNES before his patch.

>> No.5617998

>>5617796
How convenient, he threw a public shit fit today too, and what do you know, it's about Gokinjou Boukentai and Idea no Hi.

>Fair warning: Celeste did something like this with Gokinjo Boukentai, then did not contribute at all to the project beyond corralling a couple of actually competent workers together. She then bumped the project several times in an attempt to draw more attention (and, presumably, more workers) to it. I cannot imagine that this one would be much different.

https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=28568.msg376103

>> No.5618010

He kicked Celeste off his secret discord channel too lmao
Pop corn time! The plot thickens...

>> No.5618026

>>5614320
>>5617998
>>5618010
>>5616054
wew
status updated: cancelled

>> No.5618034

>>5617998
lol that thread is shit, OP is a faggot who's asking for help, as noted there, with literally everything

I don't know gidon personally but this celete guy is an epic faggot

>> No.5618036

>>5617998
Lol ok Gid, whatever

>> No.5618050

>>5618034
hi ghideon

to play devil's advocate he/she did offer to take translation
celeste seems to know some japanese and the entry barrier is that low

rip gokinjou boukentai

>> No.5618051

>>5617998
>>5618010
100% the roastie's fault. Could have easily come to the board and said "hey here's a cool game, do you guys have any other info/etc. on it?", but she had to go and spill her whole fucking story. Women just cannot grasp the concept of holding their tongue when it's unnecessary

>> No.5618056

5618050
>hi ghideon
le giden samefagging boogerman

>> No.5618058

>>5617998
>>5618010

Man, I didn't think it had gotten this bad.

Why does anyone continue to work with this guy? I'm not saying Gideon is incompetent, but he's by no means the best ROM hacker around. Anyone can get on Gideon's level fairly quickly just by following some of the documentation available on RHDN. The problem is that Gideon doesn't seem to have a sufficient amount of time to invest in his projects, which begs the question of why he puts so many games on reserve in the first place. And why does Nightcrawler continue to tolerate this kind of behavior from him? Other hackers have been scolded in the past for announcing new projects when they already had a multitude of inactive ones on the backburner.

>> No.5618062

>>5618058
>Other hackers have been scolded in the past for announcing new projects when they already had a multitude of inactive ones on the backburner.

Which?

>> No.5618067

>>5618062
Could be the early days, often not without reason (dejap, yonin)

>> No.5618078

>>5618067
They should have fucked like a tiger.

>> No.5618083

Unfortunately the project is over, or my "involvement" is, what Gideon said is true, I'm a freeloader looking to get the game translated.

The script is translated but I didn't translate it, so i cannot claim it

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>>5618078
>fucked like a tiger

>> No.5618093

>>5618051
It was ill-advised; and there was a much more diplomatic "status update" thread on rhdn that got pretty much ignored, so it's not for the lack of trying, but it's ghideon it's about here lol
>Lagrange Point (15 years! first tomato translation, by then he was a pro localizer)
>Magical Drop 2 (dev hell then repro shareware)
>ganbare goemon 2
>his war with the shin megami tensei fandom

the scorched earth tactic is interesting; gideon is a mod there so i would back up that page asap.

>> No.5618097

>>5618083
Objectively, do you know japanese well enough to translate this game entirely on your own?

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>>5618084

>> No.5618113

>>5618097
Possibly, probably not grammatically correct

>> No.5618126

>>5618113
How will you recover from this?

>> No.5618131

>>5618113
Hm. In that case, just fuck off. I'll contact the moderators and ask them to take this thread down since it no longer serves a purpose. Have a good night.

>> No.5618164

>>5618113
That's somewhat good enough by romhacking standards. I will take a look at the game if all what's missing from the current version is the menu text and at least extract you the item and move names.

don't get too upset at this or at yourself, the game was the perfect title for the 24th aeon genesis perpetual work in progress that never gets done, and eventually gets discreetly ghosted from the list.

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>>5618102

>> No.5618310

>>5617998
>>5618010
Fuck Gideon desu

>> No.5618963

>>5617360
t. 92.9th percentile

>> No.5618968

>>5618113
So no?

Also absolute lol at the drama. What are you guys? FBI? With secret Discords and everything crumbling when someone speaks out of turn?

>> No.5618973

>>5618968
Yea this place is fucked up, we got wackos shooting in all directions with no rhyme or reason.

If any fantranslator/romhacker is reading this, DONT EVER post a thread for your project or say who you is here in this orifice, you'll only be hurting yourself and your work.

>> No.5618985

>>5618973
But the fantranslators and romhackers are clearly the autistic ones in this case, not to mention the ones lacking Japanese ability.

>> No.5619037

>>5617405
you're thinking of another game by the same company, maka maka. idea no hi is a decent game, and certainly worth a look for anyone who's starved for jrpgs. it's not perfect, but it has a pretty good story and some weird little subsystems that make it fun enough. it's also got some really funny moments and dialogue.

>> No.5619071

also incredibly big lmfao at op whose entire schtick is "i can't contribute anything but i'm trying to gather a team to translate some games i wanna play" and equally big lmfao at /vr/ who is on board with that shit just because they hate gid

>> No.5619409

>>5618973
Many other fantranslators post here just fine and make it clear who they are.
Not all shares your hatred of freeform boards and "toxic" chats, resetera faggot. The scene wouldn't be half as productive if it had your gatekeeping. It's a subversive hobby first and foremost and doesn't mesh well with your wannabe internet HR consellor act.

>> No.5619467

>>5618973
>>5619071
>>5618131
>>5618126
Gideon pls take your meds

>> No.5619603

>>5618963
I didn't make that post, come on now.

>> No.5619607

>>5619467
That really does sound like autismo Gideon...

>> No.5619617

>>5619603
Sorry for being 2 points short then.

>> No.5619620

>>5619617
No I mean I'm the 92.9th percentile anon, and I'm not in the business of unfairly criticizing others when they've proved their worth.

>> No.5619663

>>5619620
Ah, I see. Fair enough then.