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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5609323

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:

IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)

Doom RPG series

Launchers for Build Engine games



Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/








>> No.5611776

=== NEWS ===

[5-27] Quake 2 RTX Release date in June 6

[5-26] SIGIL has been leaked, check the links in the OP

[5-23] Chex Quest 3 has been re-released officially

[5-22] SIGIL is shipping

[5-21] Redemption Of The Slain is getting a no BD version

[5-21] Cyrgoth's Manor -a 7 Level Hub FOR Hexen has been released

[5-19] Unbeliever, heretic megawad has been released

[5-18] BuildGDX update with FOV slider and other fixes, now supports Duke Nukem

[5-16] REKKR updated to v1.16

[5-15] GZDoom 4.1.2 released

[5-12] Quake 1 sounds remastered

[5-10] Nightdive's BLOOD remaster released

[5-9] Sigil delay entirely on the disk

[5-7] Two more Quake map jams, SM196 and Map Jam X

[5-5] GZDoom 4.1.1 released

[5-3] Introducing SM195, seven Quake speedmaps made in 24 hours

=== PREVIOUS ===


== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5611791

Can YouTube delete the sound from my videos of letsplaying SIGIL with Buckethead soundtrack? The video editing page says something about that the video cannot be monetized because it contains copyrighted soundtrack, so I'm afraid they could remove the sound. Should I make another letsplay with midi then?

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>> No.5611818

No they won't delete. But your letsplay video might show ads the money for which will go to Buckethead.

>> No.5611823


>> No.5611827
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I know BABEL Bro posts on here so I'm gonna ask something.

Can you figure out what's making BABEL break Dark Universe pt.1 , removing all friendly NPC's and spawning in enemies early?

Hideous Destructor somehow didn't break Dark Universe so badly, and HD, babel and hard doomm seem like a match made in heaven with dark Universe.

>> No.5611846

How demanding will this be?

>> No.5611849
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>> No.5611870

Sigil is kicking my ass. on e5m3 rn.

>> No.5611893

You're gonna love the next map.

>> No.5611895
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Is anyone else waiting for their physical copy of SIGIL before playing it?

>> No.5611897
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>Robin Williams was the original lead developer of Doom and the founder of id Software. He wanted to create a fucking good first person shooter, so he gathered the team of game developers and programmers. One of the guys he recruited were John Romero and John Carmack. Williams became friends with Romero and Carmack. One weekend the guys when out for a drink. John Romero put a roofie into Robin Williams' drink. When Robin Williams couldn't defend himself anymore, Carmack and Romero raped him together. Romero fucked his ass, Carmack fucked his mouth.

and now I know the rest of the story

>> No.5611903

Oh joy. Am I going to get the plasma rifle soon? I straight up left some enemies alive in the last map because I wasn't about to shotgun 2 barons to death.

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>> No.5611908

Gimme a vanilla+ set-up for Sigil release
So far I've got
>Smooth Doom
>GZDoom- Software renderer mode

>> No.5611932

requesting Almonds Crash abs pic

>> No.5611942

its on the booru

>> No.5611946

And the booru is?

>> No.5611947


>> No.5611948
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gee I wonder where it could be

>> No.5611972

What's the command for getting the computer map? I want to see every little unexplored nook and cranny.

>> No.5611974
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sure was
but it's required viewing

> give allmap

>> No.5611976

open automap and type iddt

>> No.5611979

What about reflecting shaders by vasyan?

>> No.5611981

>that entire robot-generated text
Lost my fucking shit

>> No.5611983

Does't iddt or give allmap show everything as if I explored it already? I want the unexplored parts to appear gray as they do when I pick up the map thing.

>> No.5611984
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So, what did /vr/ think of Sigil?

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The implication that /vr/ thinks

>> No.5611995

Its this artist still alive?
I want to buy meself some crash abs

>> No.5611996

the cheat shows everything as explored, including lines set to not be shown on the automap
allmap is the internal name for the computer area map, doesn't matter what iwad it is, since it does the same thing like backpacks do

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>> No.5612002

i thought it was fun

>> No.5612004

4/10. A generic wad stuck in 90s. Too much hype for something like this. He shouldn't sell it.

>> No.5612005
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>check tracking
>mfw it's still fucking across seas
>mfw it will probably not show up until next week
>mfw everyone else has already played it

>> No.5612016

I'm pretty sure he posted here a few weeks ago.

>> No.5612020

If he released it for free people would have tempered their expectations and appreciated for what it was - an old master trying to get back into the game.

Instead, with all of this hype and marketing and a fucking Buckethead soundtrack, people expect a modern professional product which this certainly isn't. Romero should have just released Sigil for free as an exercise for himself and as advertisment for Blackroom or whatever it is now.

>> No.5612023
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Free version's out on Friday. Just gotta wait a few more days after that. Worth it.

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>mfw going through and playing old wads with Typhon instead of playing Sigil

>> No.5612029
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>fucking Buckethead soundtrack

Who would even play with this fucking shit? If you make a letsplay video on YouTube using this soundtrack it will be fucked with shitty ads.

>> No.5612034

That's on you for not understanding how youtube works.

>> No.5612037

He did the Blackroom advertisement map already though, it fell flat on it's face.

>> No.5612040
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Repost because wrong thread last time:
What the fuck is up with the final level of Sigil?
If you destroy one of the two bosses you win instantly (defeating the point of spawning in two at once), alternatively you can just run to the teleporter a few feet away and win that way as well.
Was he in that much of a hurry to finish it? It felt like it ended out of nowhere.

>> No.5612041

Play the version with Jimmy's music instead then.

It'll still be claimed because the copyright shit is a shambles but you'll not be doing buckethead stuff.

>> No.5612043


>> No.5612047

I know this horse is pretty much beaten to death but i remember how Gman once said the Mancubus in 2016 didn't change that much, even though he was completely different from his Doom 2 version
Meanwhile, modders that tried to mimick D4 stuff in D1/2 actually researched for the game's mechanics

>> No.5612053

sigil is fine imho except last 2 levels which are a little underwhelming, partially because of the thing you've mentioned.
but the wad itself has been finished for months, the delay was only related to the physical goodies.

>> No.5612057

Doesn't matter to gman. He rakes in views and money no matter what kind of bullshit he spews out.
(Use adblock.)

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>blue sky

>> No.5612065

Reminder that GGmanlives went nuclear in the comments for the sigil video when people pointed how he was playing shit was clearly not how it's meant.

>> No.5612069

Pics or it didn't happen

>> No.5612071

Says you. I just want to play it already. Anyone have the link?

>> No.5612072

No! Don't notice things! Buy a new graphics card instead. You want that.

>> No.5612073
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Agreed, but with all the hype it should have been more than just 'fine'. I can see why he put out all the physical packages months before the free download, Romero hyped us up yet again.
Even if you ignore Daikatana, we should have learned our lesson when we saw the utter state of the Kickstarter campaign he tried to launch.

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>> No.5612080

Check the old thread

>> No.5612081

Is GGGGGGmanlives the new Mark? These threads sure can't seem to stop posting about how he's shit and not worth anybody's time, except to post more about how he's shit ant not worth anybody's time.

>> No.5612082
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>Buy a new graphics card instead
I already did because 1080s are impossible to find because of cryptoniggers.

>> No.5612083

I just find it weird you guys are judging something up before it's official release.

>> No.5612087

It's been posted in many of the threads already and you can find it easily with Ctrl+F. But here you go:

>> No.5612090

what a shame, vasyan, it's so terrible you can't make money off someone else's work

>> No.5612091

Oh. I... oh.
I'm sorry, anon. I can't believe you willingly lost your legs to an RTX-mine.

>> No.5612092

>before it's official release
You honestly think anything will change? Romero himself said it was finished and he was just waiting on the physical versions to ship before releasing. Unless you're baiting, in which case fuck my life.

>> No.5612094

It's entirely filled with smoke/clouds.
This >>5612061 shit is crystal clear like it's on some solar powered vegan planet.

>> No.5612096

Especially on a leak.
wtf did you really expect?

>> No.5612097

That doesn't look like Quake 2 to me.

>people talk about him being trash for like a day or two

>> No.5612106

Vasyan doesn't have enough videos and subscribers. You need at least 1000 subscribers and 40000 hours of videos to monetize them.

>> No.5612108

>Who would even play with this fucking shit?
People who don't make let's plays, I imagine.
Plus the entire soundtrack is made up of old songs, barring the title theme. It's more like a compilation album and I'm not surprised it gets claimed when all but one of the songs already got released in some form already.

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Mine was a gift from someone else for christmas so I can't even check the fucking tracking.

I don't care, I'm just going to bubble my own opinion and wait until I can play it. This community would be disappointed even if Mordeth was finished and it was god's gift to man.

I don't even remember Romero hyping Sigil up that much as something THAT AMAZING. We got that 1 video + the dev streams.

>> No.5612110

Finally we can all agree that Decino is the best Doom related youtuber

Sorry civvie

>> No.5612121

>People who don't make let's plays

>Playing without recording letsplay

>> No.5612123
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Talk about Doom instead.

>> No.5612125


Shit like this or

he's never been good at getting called out on his bullshit or taking criticism very well, which is funny as he likes to have this "badass, I don't care fucking liberals" personality.

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Here's a minimap mod. Use ATMP_ cvars for control, and built in custom automap colors for colors. (does not support presets).

ATMP_MapBackground: Set to false for transparent map.
ATMP_MapX/ATMP_MapY: Upper left corner position
ATMP_MapSize: width and height
ATMP_MapScale: Zoom level. Don't go and set this to 0.

>> No.5612128

>I don't even remember Romero hyping Sigil up that much as something THAT AMAZING. We got that 1 video + the dev streams.
There was a lot of
Tier hype going about.

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He's always been an edgy fuck who wants to feel special. It's why his FO76 review was basically "It's not that bad, ugh fucking reviewers."

>> No.5612142

If videos took 20 times less space and uploading time was 20 times faster I would make letsplays as well.

>> No.5612146

I want to make it clear that I never had any sky-high expectations for Sigil from the beginning, I basically expected a set of levels comparable to stuff like he did in Doom and Doom 2 back in the day.

I figure, they'll be good, but they won't be anything revolutionary by any means, particularly not comparing to all the heights and standards the community has come to expect from really stellar free map packs.
They've finished downloading, so I guess I'll play them now, I'm sick of waiting for my physical copy.

>> No.5612149

That's not really on Romero though.

>> No.5612150

This was basically what I was saying. It seemed like he was trying deliberately not to hype this too much given his reputation.

>> No.5612151

Talk to caco-bro. He used to do a lot of iD abs.

>> No.5612152

>I don't even remember Romero hyping Sigil up that much as something THAT AMAZING. We got that 1 video + the dev streams.
That's because he didn't. The hype came from dipshits who never played a Romero map that wasn't in E1, and they're the same ones who are angry now because they don't know how Romero does difficulty. If you play Perfect Hatred, Against Thee Wickedly, The Abandoned Mines, and The Living End, SIGIL is right in line with all of those. Dark, claustrophobic maps that don't shy away from heavy caco and baron usage and commonly feature narrow walkways with damaging floors beneath them. The one thing I won't defend in SIGIL is the crusher maze in E5M4. That's some outright bullshit. It'd be fine if they were normal crushers and not the guaranteed death variant. Even if you use the invulnerability secret, it only buys you enough time to make one mistake at best. Playing by vanilla rules, being even slightly off in timing gets you killed with no chance of escape. It's complete nonsense that places E5M4 solidly at the bottom of the set. Unless there's something worse in M9 because I haven't found it yet

>> No.5612161

Romero didn't say any of that, that all came from the people who desperately wanted it to be true.

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>> No.5612165

he also does a lot of horse cocks

>> No.5612173

I don't think those are mandatory.

>> No.5612174

>"Hey, here's a thing I did. It'll be available for free, but if you pay a bit of money I'll throw in some cool bonus stuff."
>doesn't go full hype train, is pretty modest about it overall, particularly in comparison to Dai-Katana
>anyone who has played his classic Doom levels, as well as his new ones, has a rough idea of what they'll get

>> No.5612181

Name of the cosmetic/gameplay mod?

>> No.5612196

he kinda leans towards pannenkoek2012/matthewmatosis levels of analyzing shit
we need more of it

>> No.5612219
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Asylum of the Wretched. It's a pretty fucked mod. Horror themed, fighting back is pretty much a bad idea until you get decently kitted further down the line, and even then it's tough.

If you start with 23 health and an empty pistol, you're running it right. You need to punch the guard and get him to open the door. If not, try an earlier version of GZDoom.

I haven't tried in a while but iirc it's very easy to make it seem like it's broken.

Beating it did genuinely feel like an accomplishment, even with my shitty grades.

>> No.5612224

has anyone ever tried that abyss of pandemonium episode for quake?

>> No.5612229

Used to always think the imp on the floor had two heads for some reason as a kid.

>> No.5612236

The lanterns casting muted light. That's what gets me.

>> No.5612250

What're the recomended sites for info on doom decorate or other code. Like the wiki lists a bunch of flags you can add on weps, CPF this tht or the other, but doesn't say where to add those or give ny example using them, just assuming I'm looking up the code because I already know it

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>> No.5612262

PS1 total conversion is pretty rad.

>> No.5612263

Played a bit of it, never really felt the desire to play the entire thing.

>> No.5612265

just download a mod and look at how they do it

>> No.5612269

not him but what are some mods with "clean" code I could open in SLADE?

>> No.5612275


>> No.5612276

None of them do what I want to do (steal armor rather than hp)
From what I've gathered you do flags by putting +flag somewhere towards the bottom but all the CPF stuff (which includes what I want) and all the weapon.stuff the wiki lists are ''not recognized flags'' in zandro or gzdoom
Makes me question what the fuck they do work in

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Oh hey - speaking of, Kegan, This is a thing I meant to show you like 3 threads ago.
Take the first image, repeat it across a canvas, set the layer to hard mix, and paint below it.
Gradients get dithered. You can use the black and white info to remap to color, or overlay or whatever.

>> No.5612285

Yeah. It's alright. Not very cohesive though, just a bunch of random levels.

>> No.5612289

I wouldn't advise trying to start by looking at any of Yholl or Ijon's mods, both of them do some pretty crazy shit.

>> No.5612291
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had to scale this because 4chan thought it had an embeded file.

>> No.5612296

That messed my brain up. It's late. I'll try again tomorrow.

>> No.5612303

Why is Caleb so amazing?

>> No.5612306

The voice and the personality, + the blitzerkrieg fighting style.

>> No.5612328

So is it
A: Half the flags no longer work but the wiki was never updated to say this
B: They work but you need to do some voodoo magic to make them work
'Cause half the weapon flags do not work at all and also aren't used in any mod I have suggesting no one uses them
Very misleading to new people whichever is the case

>> No.5612330

sigil: (hurr durr opinion) edition

>150 dollars for satanist trinkets, old Buckethead songs, a flash drive, and other loose bullshit
> 9 singleplayer maps, calling itself a megawad, my fucking sides
>E4M2 inspired level design
>I'm a huge fan of being hesitant and careful while playing Doom, right guys?
>GZDoom geometry, so you forget how awful it would look otherwise

God, what the fuck is this? None of this feels like a continuation of Doom 1. This is just a fan made project with some bullshit marketing and overpriced nonsense.

I could rattle off the amount of megawads that wipe the floor with Sigil. I'm not surprised, I'm not even angry.

I'm just disappointed.

>> No.5612335

I'll check it out then, does it come with an ost like DoE and SoA?

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No worries, dear.

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>> No.5612345

It does have a soundtrack, but some levels seem like they don't have tracks assigned.

>> No.5612346

is there a way to assign them myself?

>> No.5612362

NSF. Not Sane Fuckheads.

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>> No.5612369

Poor P849

>> No.5612373

>all of those samsara addons and no attempt at unreal anything

>> No.5612380

Is there something wrong with my wad or what because I can't even see 4 feet in front of me in Sigil.

I've played Doom 1/2/usermaps etc with the same exact settings perfectly fine.

Also is there a console command or how do I restart a level from scratch. I'm going into some levels from the last with only 10 health and it's too hard

>> No.5612381

Use the light of your gun to light your way.
The pistol is the most efficient way of doing this.

or pussy out and download a flashlight mod. I recc Beam Flashlight since it means you can see 4 feet in front of you but pretty much nothing else.

>> No.5612382

Good thing it was completely free then huh?

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Play in a software-rendered port and you'll be able to see even in complete darkness.

>> No.5612432

Also this. I doubt romero designed this around software mode, but Doom's software lighting actually somehow makes it easier to determine movement and targets.

I really wish I could explain it, but eventually you get used to seeing 4 pixels in the distance and realizing you can snipe them.

>> No.5612443

>GZDoom geometry, so you forget how awful it would look otherwise
Nibba what? It's vanilla format. It only requires a limit-removing port (which includes Crispy Doom) because it has more lines than the vanilla limit.

>> No.5612456

What were you expecting to get?

>> No.5612460

But Prisoner 849 is from Unreal.

>> No.5612462
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Another example. It's absolutely black in this room, but you can still make out the level geometry and even see the armor on the right even though it's not in its fullbright frame. I think this was designed much more around vanilla, 1993 Doom than you'd expect from Romero's regular endorsement of more modern hardware-accelerated ports. I'm also playing with autorun off (like it would be in vanilla, where autorun didn't even exist) and it's made the narrow walkways and E5M4 crusher maze so much easier. This isn't a modern community wad and you shouldn't play it like one. We're back in almost-horror Doom instead of balls to the wall action Doom.

>> No.5612473


Lol. How do I reset a level?

>> No.5612494

Caleb and Lo Wang need some love too

>> No.5612505

Romero pitched the game as THE FIFTH EPISODE(tm). Fine, whatever, he wants to make a level set similar to the OG ones and that's cool.
Then he lets you know that a fairly well-knon artist was comissioned for the theme song. Then he lets you pre-order the physical releases (one of which totals $166). Then you clock that he is selling actual T-Shirts, USB sticks and a big box for a DOOM LEVEL PACK.
Can you honestly be surprised that we expected something worth all the fuss he went through just to market the thing?

>> No.5612509
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Just rebrand it as Dick Kickem. Memes sell.

>> No.5612512

That image is just the planned Samsara characters. The only one that wasn't made was Prisoner 849

>> No.5612513

Exactly, 100% fucking this right here. This is why I'm fucking not okay with Sigil. Romero hyped up 9 mediocre maps, he even called it a damn megawad. Fuck that.

>> No.5612519

Shut the fuck up you silly faggots. No one cares about your assblasting.

>> No.5612520

why do people really keep saying "what were you expecting"
something interesting

>> No.5612525

That changes what you should expect from the levels?

>> No.5612528

Because I sure as fuck didn't have any high expectations, and I wonder why you did.

>> No.5612532

What could possibly feel new and interesting about a map pack specifically made to feel like classic Doom

A game most of us have played over and over, in various ways

There's very little novelty to be had there. Even a well crafted level is gonna feel like the same thing, just slightly different.

>> No.5612535

will romero do the same thing for quake now?
I somewhat wish he would because I like quake more than doom

>> No.5612543
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>Sandy will never open up the Quake editor and make his own SIGIL full of lovecraftian fuckery

at least we got the Quack wizards

>> No.5612552

I was also thinking of sandy but his episode is a love it or hate it, most of his stuff is honestly

>> No.5612553

>Before he faces into obscurity

>> No.5612559
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Is it considered cheesy to use chasecam to see hitscan cunts around corners?

>> No.5612561

I don't know why these toolbags don't start a patreon account and promise 1 map a month from the original level designers. Then they split the money between themselves.

That means they all have 1+ months to make levels at their leisure.

>> No.5612562

Fuck, i forgot the creator of Call of Cthulhu worked on Quake, which explains a lot.

>> No.5612568

that's just being a faggot anon, either play in first person or in third person
actually, how would blood play if it was in 3rd person?

>> No.5612573

>remember a few e3s ago
>oh shit dos prompt
>its just Q3 shit.
Just give the arcane dimension dudes a big budget.

>> No.5612579

Max Payne

>> No.5612580

Fuck me for talking about a release from an original DOOM developer in a DOOM thread because I'm not praising the game wholeheartedly.
Yes. Imagine if I came to this board, talked about a level I had been working on for months and sold merch for it well before it actually released. I would probably have doubters since I'm some random anon but people would still be curious as to whether I could actually deliver, right? Now imagine if I was John Romero, and I had a big hand in creating arguably THE most important FPS game ever made with a proven track record for legendary maps and game design philosophies. Also imagine I got Buckethead, who has played for Guns N Roses and collaborated with Les Claypool, to do the title theme.
So yes, while the game is it's own entity and should be judged on it's own merits, you have to be blind not to see how this builds hype for something as small as a Doom WAD.

>> No.5612581

>Just rebrand it as Dick Kickem. Memes sell.
The next Douk game should have Duke as normal but Dick Kickem as an alien-made Duke clone that turns against them because he's still a Douk, and the player can choose to play Duke with his traditional weaponset and one-liners, or Dick Kickem with oddball gimmic weapons and his totally botched meme lines and ventrilo references. And the cutscenes have absurd interactions between the two, like Dick goes off the script with "I've got an ASS to be reckoned with" and Duke says something like "Alright pal, you know how to kick ass, but let's just say I'll do the talking"

>> No.5612584

I'd love to see what Sandy could do with the tools we have for stuff now, and not being overworked / rushed to fuck all the time.

>> No.5612585

Nah. Giving yourself an edge is fine, I figure. You'll be playing with knowledge of where enemies are in the future anyway so you pretty much just activated a time machine. Wowie!

>> No.5612586

>Fuck me for talking about a release from an original DOOM developer in a DOOM thread because I'm not praising the game wholeheartedly.
>fuck me
Yep. Fuck you.

>> No.5612587
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>We're back in almost-horror Doom instead of balls to the wall action Doom.

I still can't believe people still exist who think DOOM Was never a horror game in any sense.
>Aliens was stated as a direct influence on the look and feel of the game.
>Half-Life was directly created to try to be as scary and special as Doom was when it launched
>Doom has more iterations of mutilated corpses and impaled figures than probably any game in existence.
>That section of Masters of Doom where Romero makes a level with creepy flashing lights, darkness and enemies popping out to show everyone how doom should look and feel.
>The purposeful diminished lighting system in Software doom to

These are the people who want to forget that Doom 3 exists, people who drank the Doom 4/Brutal Doom Zeitgeist Kool-aid so hard that it's stunted their brains.

Doom was never ALL hyper-masculine power fantasy shit.
It was nerdy, it tried to be scary, it was a bit goofy and that's where all of the charm came from. But at the time, it WAS scary.
Some levels did limit your ammo so you had to ration your weapon usage, enemies were designed to be frightening so fighting them and winning was even cooler.

>> No.5612589

Does anyone know what he's doing now? I know the last I can think of he did was the 5e Cthulhu mythos kickstarter.

>> No.5612594

Why respond if you don't give a shit? Or did I offend you for talking smack about what Romero drip-feeds you?

>> No.5612597

I just finished it. It could've been a bit better.

>> No.5612603

yeah, though I'd argue Doom 2 leaned much more towards pure action and is largely the facet that its most remembered for these days

It's almost impossible nowadays to see Doom as horror, even if you just fast forward several years after Doom came out, you can see much more successful attempts at horror

>> No.5612610

Dude, I have friends who would freak the fuck out whenever a zombie would growl in the distance. "It's dark and I don't know what to expect!"
Some people drown in immersion. For others it's gameplay. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.5612612

Doing a lot of tabletop stuff still, I think, has his own company for it.

Fucking board things this is spam too, his Facebook url is /PetersenGames/

>> No.5612613

> playable shitpost grade duke nukem
i'd play it
hell jon st john already dipped his toes into the memes with joel

>> No.5612615
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How do you deal with enemies below you? That is to say, enemies below a ledge whom you can't shoot without going down on the ledge (where depending on where you are you can easily get bodyblocked and melee'd by them)? I've lost two good runs in a row due to being unable to get around spectres blocking me from going down a ledge and taking out half my health.

>> No.5612617

Rockets or punching.

>> No.5612628

assuming mouselook is off and infinitely tall actors are on:
kite to one side and then circle around the other way

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>> No.5612635

I want a Duki Nuki as a playable character too.

>> No.5612640

Don't forget Duck Fuckem. Something for every crowd.

>> No.5612641

They could also just hire the team behind AMC TC. I’d gladly pay money for it.

>> No.5612642

>cutscene after you beat a boss
>the smouldering corpse lays on the ground, camera slowly pans sideways across Duke calmly bringing a cigar to his mouth and saying a one-liner
>the camera keeps panning, to Dick Kickem standing next to Duke
>he brings up five cigars held between six fingers, even though he has normal hands at any other time, and blows out a huge cloud of smoke
>"Yeah, blast it with ass"

>> No.5612646

Well get a discussion going on twooter. Jon really does seem to be looking for ideas.

>> No.5612648

What is the purpose of the "Vintage" version of GZDoom? Will it still run the same mods supported by the regular version up to the same version number?

>> No.5612651

Thank you.

>> No.5612654


>> No.5612657

You accept death if it's a revenant.

>> No.5612659

Sounds like chainsaw time to me.

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What would he say if he saw this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWQBLNPjHFA

>> No.5612670

Can you make a -lite version without those checks for performance even if that means no colorized lines?

>> No.5612671

He wouldn’t have shot up the school, he just would’ve blew his brains out in his house.

>> No.5612675

If you hate Sigil it's your fault.
It's the real fifth episode we've been waiting for with tons of epic metal and based Baphomet imagery
Anyone who thinks it should contain "more space" or "better lighting" has clearly fell for the joke of "modern level design" that people falsely attribute to Doom.
Complete Horse hockey!
Doom grew harder because the levels became cramped and dark and hard to navigate with abstract labryinths avoiding monster closets.
Sigil ( or as I now refer to it as Episode 5) perfectly follows up on Thy Flesh Consumed doubling down on everything taboo to give a big middle finger to these faux id style WADS and overrated map packs like Evilternity, Ancient Aliens, and NOVA 2.
I'm glad he charged money for this expansion and only regret that there wasn't a free version or possibly DRM like denuvo to keep shitters like youtubers from talking shit on things they don't understand.
You just expected one of these over designed clusterfuck levels some autistic Doomworld edgelord made to show their too lazy to learn proper 3D design.
John didn't do that and he's pretty woke for that, and his obsession with Baphomet and Satan just shows how cool he is to go against modern trends.
Can't wait to drop some money on E6!

>> No.5612679

How do I make GZDoom stop autoloading a autosave when I die?

Or how do I restart a level?

>> No.5612681

Man you were really trying here weren't you?

You still look like a complete idiot, but you tried.

>> No.5612693

How many map packs have you played? How many mods? The ones you enjoyed, I mean.
Contact the creators. Pay them. Ask them to make more. Say thank you. Offer them fellatio. Do the right thing.

>> No.5612713

It was good.

>> No.5612714
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we need more quake edits

>> No.5612720

There is a Berserk pack earlier in the map (no chainsaw unless it's in a secret), so punching should work, but my hits don't seem to register even when the monster is able to bite me. Wouldn't trying to rocket something that far down end up hitting the ground you're on though?
Kiting did work though, thank you. Beat the map. I'm not a fan of how Plutonia MAP04 starts, it feels kind of luck-based how much damage you take while you try to run to a safe spot due to how many hitscanners are facing you. The interconnected, tight level design as a whole is neat though, like a less bullshit E4M2.

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>> No.5612727

6/10 pasta

>> No.5612731

Does anyone else think the music for E5M7 sounds like a Christmas rendition of "The Real Slim Shady"?

>> No.5612734

Stroggos HAS blue Skies, even carmack can confirm that
All of Quake 2's story happens in between 5AM(Operation Overlord plus Xpacs) til 6PM(Stepchild blowing the Stroggos Gravity Well generator and Bitterman Killing the 1st Makron)

Everything about Q2 was heavily based on the D-Day itself, it took an entire day and 3 lone marines to deal with the strogg.

>> No.5612736

>Yes. Imagine if I came to this board, talked about a level I had been working on for months and sold merch for it well before it actually released. I would probably have doubters since I'm some random anon but people would still be curious as to whether I could actually deliver, right?
I guess? But Romero didn't come here to /vr/ to advertise Sigil at us.

>Now imagine if I was John Romero, and I had a big hand in creating arguably THE most important FPS game ever made with a proven track record for legendary maps and game design philosophies.
>Also imagine I got Buckethead, who has played for Guns N Roses and collaborated with Les Claypool, to do the title theme.
>So yes, while the game is it's own entity and should be judged on it's own merits, you have to be blind not to see how this builds hype for something as small as a Doom WAD.
I don't think it builds enough hype to make my expectations go through the roof.

I know what kind of Doom maps Romero can do, I've seen his 90s ones, and I've seen his modern ones, I know fully well what to expect from him, I never expected him to approach the best of what the community itself has built over the years.
Licensing Buckethead for the music is cool, but you also see that it's a very obvious gimmick, right?
All the other stuff is just knicknack and trinkets for the diehard nerds who love that shit, just like how he sells signed Doom manuals on his website.

>> No.5612739

Eviternity caught me off guard. Was expecting it to just be a showcase for OTEX but it's a good wad with mostly nice maps.

>> No.5612747
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>John Romero, a self-proclaimed "lover of death and rape"

>> No.5612752

I enjoyed it. Will play it again propably at the end of year.

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>> No.5612757

Asking as someone who probably won't play SIGIL until I slowly finish the current WAD I'm playing; people have been talking about it as "the fifth DOOM episode," but is it explicitly based on DOOM1 assets? Does it have any of the DOOM2 enemies, super shotgun, etc., or just pure DOOM1 enemies? I honestly don't know if I want to go back to fighting barons without the SSG.

>> No.5612759

And that’s why Dragonfly got hired to work on Prodeus.

>> No.5612760

Pure Doom 1 enemies. No Super Shotgun.

>> No.5612763

If I remember correctly, you can check the console to see which track the level is seeking, so you should be able to, at least on Quakespasm.

>> No.5612765

Well fuck. I'll probably survive it but I don't know if I'll enjoy it.

>> No.5612769

mutual kill

>> No.5612775

There’s also a lot of Barons, because Romero loves putting too many Barons in his maps.

>> No.5612787

I'd play it.

>> No.5612796

This thing is great at mimicking the tone / style of what you give it.

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You’d have to ask him first.

>> No.5612813

well the first map after the difficulty selection map is asking for track 0, the thing is I need to know which track is supposed to know with that map, how would I know that? to my knowledge tracks only start from 02, not 0

>> No.5612820

>If you make a letsplay video on YouTube using this soundtrack it will be fucked with shitty ads.

stick in a chunk of a Nintendo trailer and some Sony BMG owned music, deadlock the motherfucker so NOBODY gets to monetize it

>> No.5612837

I tested the original one with a 1060 6 gb, it barely ran decently at 854x480
I expect this version to run faster and look better

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>> No.5612847

does wadsmoosher only work with official wads?

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>> No.5612863

Well, your card does not have RTX chips so it's struggling.

>> No.5612871
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I genuinely feel bad for you guys who paid 300 bucks for a statue and a fake floppy disk.

>> No.5612872

>scrolling my channels
>oh god they're running that Polaris shit on disney
>it's someone playing Duke Nukem 3D really badly
huh that's partially unexpected
>attributes developers to Nerve Software and Gearbox
fuck you randy

>> No.5612885

>vanilla essence
>set compat mode to DOOM (STRICT)
>a hud mod of your choice I like this one (https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=63863)
>I prefer NashGore to ketchup but you do you

>> No.5612889
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I just got myself a brand new Quakespasm setup with the injector, SQL and everything else I need to start HUHing again

I don't know what to play tho, I already played the expansions, AD and DOPA

So what would you anons suggest I try out? Im gonna play myself some QUACK

>> No.5612893

Too much hype for what it was. If it was e1m4b or e1m8b with a spontaneous release then it would've been fine.

>> No.5612898

contract revoked
there's been a lot 'jam' map packs recently

>> No.5612907

Because Romero built so much goddamn hype around it by releasing it with a soundtrack by Buckethead in a 160 dollar boxset with a statue of him in it. I assumed it was going to be his magnum opus but just got some boring and downright tedious maps.

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abyss of pandemonium
malice and shrak TCs
beyond belief
penumbra of domination
soul of evil
coven of ebony
operation urth majik
also what commands did you use for your autoexec? I havent played quake in a while so I want to play some too

>> No.5612915

Romero wasnt telling anyone it was gonna be his magnum opus though. You people are so close to admitting you'd enjoy it if there was no delay

>> No.5612918

That's something I never quite figured out, even playing with WinQuake and DOSQuake. Will probably just need to pick what you feel goes best with that level and rename it, or at least make a copy with that name.

>> No.5612920

>Because Romero built so much goddamn hype around it
>I assumed it was going to be his magnum opus
that's on you, mate

>> No.5612921

>Too much hype
Hype by you idiots, you drummed up your own expectations.

>> No.5612924
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Yeah, if Romero announced yesterday that he made some maps as 5th episode and released it the day after it would've been fine. It was salt in the wound, a DNF effect. If DNF released a year after announcement the shitstorm surrounding it wouldn't have even been there, but since you had to wait 12 goddamn years people were rightly pissed.
I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just a tad disappointed even if I didn't pay for the box set (which was said to be the only way to get the BH soundtrack but lo and behold you can just buy it digitally now.)
Romero is a scumbag for that move alone.

>> No.5612928

I used the autoconfig that comes with the quake download in the thread mega links

>> No.5612931

That's much better.

>> No.5612932

is there a way to run multiple mods at the same time?

I want to try Q 1.5 with other mods

Do they conflict, if there are weapon alterations in those mods?
How that can be resolved?

>> No.5612934

If sigil came out with thy flesh consumed, people would remember it as a classic, a good high point doom. People are being more catty about this than when Alien World Order came out for Duke, and that wasnt even released for free

DNF is still a bad game and was victim of feature creep and constant engine change. DNF is a bad comparrison and so is Daikatana for that matter

>> No.5612935
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>Smooth Doom
>not Beautiful Doom
jk nice setup anon

>> No.5612945

>vanilla essence
Holy shit, this is such a useful lil QoL mod, thanks anon

>set compat mode to DOOM (STRICT)
Where under?

And thanks, I've started using that split HUD mod, scratches my vanilla itch while making the HUD bearable on widescreen

>> No.5612958

Any other map packs coming out or are we talking about Sigil for the rest of the week?

>> No.5612963

People got taken in by the fact that there was a whole big collector's edition and assumed they were getting basically a "new Doom game"

Even though it was stated pretty plainly that it's basically just an addendum to Doom 1, and that its only 9 maps as its meant to be the length of a Doom episode.

You could argue that maybe Romero shouldn't have had a whole special box for it, but I don't think he was being dishonest about what Sigil was meant to be.

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Alright well if you insist.

This is neat and all but I don't use GIMP for much nowadays other than mass cropping and recoloring using the colorizer tool

>> No.5612975

he's also shit. but thanks for bringing him up, checked the booru again after a long time and saved some stuff.

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>> No.5613001

Dont tell Stephan Weyte of he is going to have a heart attack

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close but no cigar. as far as the general populace goes I'm no longer active. zero. nada. zilch. might as well have kicked the bucket months ago.

I hope doom eternal kick-starts my love for big thicc demonesses again. I'm kinda nil on the topic.

>> No.5613005

I'll try to then, speaking of soundtracks what do you guys think of quake 64's ost?

>> No.5613007

Path=Smooth Doom (Almond's Edit).pk3
Path=color changing zombies.pk3
Path=SpriteShadow v1.6.pk3

>> No.5613013

DNF is bad because of George Broussard.
The game could had been released in 2002, but he decided to Half life and wanted to turn douk into one.

>/v/ HATES Civvie because they think that he's a libtard retro autist who does crap reviews
>They love GMAN

its easy to know why am i on the right board

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so no more buff Doom girls until Eternal drops?
You are tearing me apart Lisa

>> No.5613018

c u t e

>> No.5613024

Do I need the "SIGIL_SHREDS.wad" and "SIGIL_SHREDS_COMPAT.wad" files for SIGIL to work?

>> No.5613025

Rallying fans is nice but they still have to kick Randy out, right? That dude's nuts.

>> No.5613028

What sourceport you on

>> No.5613034

Sadly shitcent is closer to buy Gearbox, unless 3dr finds a rich publisher to help them to buy DOUK from randy

>> No.5613035

Not him but that's the nature of some artists, they draw what grabs their attention, and it's hard to draw great stuff if your heart's not in it.

>> No.5613036

[SOMETHING BETTER THAN CROWDFUNDING] to make him public domain. Duke Nukem Forever, for everyone.

Wow. What a pipe dream. I'm going to bed.

>> No.5613038


>> No.5613039
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It's under "Compatibility Options" in the GZDoom option menu. Switch from "Default" to "Doom" or "Doom (Strict)." You can also set Vanilla Essence to switch compat modes on the fly when you activate it.

>> No.5613041

Stop smoking Crack civvie, You're not Postal Dude.


>> No.5613046

China?! What the hell?

>> No.5613048

I'm wondering, what was the earliest year when Sigil could have been made without technical limitations? As far as I saw it's a limit removing mapset, and probably couldn't have handled the poor framerates of the 90s as well.

>> No.5613051

they want to spread and take over the world. They already own Epic and quite a few other businesses. It's pretty fucking concerning to be honest, if only because they're no fun allowed cunts and China doesn't like skeletons in their video games.

>> No.5613052

Despite the thoughts of the contrarian hivemind, it as fucking awesome. Just play it for yourself and don't let others opinions limit yours.

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Year 1 disregarding the 5th episode stuff. It would've worked fine in vanilla but he exceeded the mapsize limits by including the multiplayer maps into the singleplayer maps.

>> No.5613058

GZDoom. Are those files actually necessary for the game to run the correct/intended sound? I saw someone on another board say they were for the soundtrack. Does that mean it's for the soundtrack IN-GAME or that it's literally just the soundtrack itself and is separate from the gameplay?

>> No.5613060

Remove some floor cracks and a bunch of DM fluff and you're under the limit. Maybe. I dunno. They could've done it in '93-'94 if they'd just fixed the limit stuff themselves.

>> No.5613061

Fortunately Trump will make china bleed enough so Tencent gets fucked, which is happening atm with the government spying scandals, and Epic's shady dealings.

and since EPIC also deals with Hospital and Medical Software, how long until someone discovers a spying program inside one of those?

>> No.5613062

it was mostly fine
that last level was meh tho

>> No.5613063

If Randy sells Duke to the Chinese I'm going to fucking kill him myself.

>> No.5613067

You just need SIGIL_SHREDS.wad then. The Compat versions are for other source ports.

Its for the in-game soundtrack

>> No.5613068

But he wants to be.

>> No.5613071

Get those hollow points ready. You know what's coming.

>> No.5613073

Get your seppuku knife ready, because he’s probably going to do that. You know how much of a greedy bastard he is.

>> No.5613078

Don’t do it, Anon. We’ll still have mods for Douk.

>> No.5613081

theyll get bribed and bought to be illegal

>> No.5613084

So if I delete SIGIL_SHREDS_COMPAT.wad it'll have no effect on anything?

>> No.5613085

Yep, you can go right ahead

>> No.5613086

Seppuku? I'm talking about murder, not suicide.

>Don’t do it
For what, the sanctity of Randy's life?

>> No.5613091

If china ever gains any influence on the video game industry they'll start throwing people who pirate in prison. Mods will likely be classified as piracy. Any consumption of any media that is not "officially approved by the government" will result in a prison sentence.

I realize that any serious discussion is always going to be out of place on /vr/ of all places, but this is no bullshit. They already do that in their own shit country and if they can get away with it they'll start forcing that on other countries.

>> No.5613093

On the sanctity of your life. Is it really worth it to get raped in jail by Jamal and Tyrone just because of Randy?

>> No.5613094

kneecap that faggot

>> No.5613096

Boom and ZDoom were released in the late 90s.

>> No.5613101

Then disregard my post. I misread.

>> No.5613103

isn't china scheduled for another collapse?

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>> No.5613107

So China is going to go to other countries, pretty much kidnap people and then chuck them in prison. For gaming stuff. I don't think they can do that. At all. Not above board anyway, unless the west just goes belly up and falls apart all over. Which could happen, but it's still very unlikely.

>> No.5613109

Ongoing. Seemingly heading back to their old ways.

>> No.5613113

That's not how that works, they can't go into other sovereign nations and enforce their own laws as they feel like.

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>Implying even half of us paid anywhere near that much
I just bought the standard edition, find your strawmen elsewhere.

Seriously dude, wtf gets you off?

>> No.5613115 [DELETED] 

Yes, but it depends on how long Trump can Suffocate them and how long EU decides to man up and ban their shit too ASAP.

They are already going back to the old ways thanks to the spying stuff.
because in the words of good ol Mises, Communism is good when its being fed by other people's money.

>> No.5613128 [DELETED] 

>implying state capitalism is communism
Nice economics there chief

>> No.5613145 [DELETED] 

It's more like a highly authoritarian state corporatism, given that most of it is state conglomerates with special rights and provisions that non-conglomerate companies don't get (some even have exclusive legal monopolies on certain industries and fields), but there's a bunch of commie stuff involved in the society side, which can't be ignored.

>> No.5613148

I haven't touched GZDoom in a while. What are the versions I need if I want to play any of the mods worth a shit?

>> No.5613153

Just get the latest.

>> No.5613156

I thought certain mods won't work with newer versions because the dev guy keeps fucking with Zscript?

>> No.5613158

>been up for 18 hours
>modding and playing Doom for about half that time since my gfx card shat itself
>have to be packed up out of my flat in about a day
>its now 4:30AM
Th-thanks id

>> No.5613159

Just use the latest and then DL earlier versions for mods that say they need it.
Readmes area thing you know.

>> No.5613160

Alright, thanks for the help.

>> No.5613168

>Readmes area thing you know.
Readmes for older mods usually aren't updated when incompatibilities pop up, yo.

>> No.5613170

The U.N. already does this (and was literally created for that purpose). NATO, pretty much any similar organization... The "westernization" of the world didn't happen voluntarily. IF a "chinese-ization" of the world happens then that will be forced on countries as well.

>> No.5613171

what are some elements of good map design

>> No.5613172

Big. Fucking. This.

The so called modern design made me sick of Doom lately. It's not Doom anymore, just a scatterbrained hodgepodge by no lifes who think "awesum detiels" make good levels.

If you play horseshit like BShiTX, Ancient Failiens, Sundust or Eviturdnity, you quickly realise their mappers are no real designers, just third rate hobbyists. 10 levels in, and you still play the exact same level just with a geometry change. No progression, no sense of place, just some ugly details and weird colors in clusterfuck Unrealesque areas.

Sigil is different. Every level has its own distinct look, they progress, they look interesting, people can memorize them easily. And Romero doesn't need 250 revenants to make his levels hard, a single caco can kick your butt if you catch him unprepared.

>> No.5613175

To be frank it is ultimate doom, not having the super shotgun is cumbersome with cacos and barons in the earlier levels

>> No.5613178

Being able to stand up to the "pistol and 50 bullets start" rule. Meeting Romero's original 8 (IIRC) rules for Doom's level design. Not relying on gimmicks (deviating from the core gameplay is acceptable under certain circumstances, but *substituting* the core gameplay is [almost] always a bad idea [overuse of this is what made Battletoads a mess]).

>> No.5613181

i.e. Dark Universe Pt 1 works off this too. Every map has a set of weapons to be found, often in non-linear order and it's part of why the mapset is so great, outside of just the atmosphere and attention to detail of the mapset.

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This one has a weird resolution, but the proportions will still work.

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>> No.5613204
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what should i play next bros, hexen or doom 64?

>> No.5613208

doom 64

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>> No.5613213

You've figured out this game, congratulations.

>> No.5613214 [DELETED] 

report and ignore.

>> No.5613218

does a sexy hexen mod really exist?

>> No.5613223

nu-Cyberdemon doesn’t look too bad.

>> No.5613227

Doom 64. It’s the peak Doom game.

>> No.5613229

i wish
i wanna know what an ettin would be capable of with two heads
better yet, korax with six hands
where is it located on a stalker? right below the waist or way back like a snake?

>> No.5613230

he's the least realized monster in regards to design in the entire game.

>> No.5613235
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PSX Doom conversion mod with BABEL.
Throw in PSX Sound caulking and nashgore + the blood fix and you've got yourself one rip roaring great Dooming my friend.

>> No.5613239

What do you mean? And which one is the most realized?

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I'd say it's sexy enough already but that depends on what you like

>> No.5613242
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To add to this, just try to read up on the changes BABEL makes to the game.
It changes virtually every aspect of the core gameplay but health slightly to make combat more dynamic and force you to change up your style and improvise.

I can tl;dr if you want but it fundamentally changes how difficult one section might be from another

>> No.5613243

A few very crude 90s ones do, or did, whether they're somwhere on idgames or not is another question.

>> No.5613248

Revenant probably?

The doom 4 revenant is without a doubt the best iteration of the revenant design in Doom's history.

>> No.5613250

I want to say the baron looks the best. overall I was left down by the way most of them fared desgin wise, they were really holding themselves back from fully embracing the Doom aesthetic with things like the mancubus for instamce, which looks so fucking retarded I can't look at it straight anymore. so glad eternal has a better sense of style for each monster and they all look amazing.

>> No.5613260
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Yeah, I can see what you mean. I’m a bit surprised they made a few references to 64, with the Zombieman sprite, and the Doom Hunter having the dual bladed chainsaw from 64.

>> No.5613268

Duke Nukem for Eternal

>> No.5613269
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is this supposed to be the "ulta violence " equivalent? i tried picking hardcore and it gives me a warning that i shouldn't do that

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>> No.5613271

How is sigil hard? It's not that difficult on uv

>> No.5613275

That is not D64 tho

>> No.5613279
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agreed on the general notion that the monsters look better than before, but I haven't a clue what the pinky demon is even doing in eternal anymore. most other enemies received a facelift and yet here it is back again with the same old shitty unfun bullshit mechanics complimented by the same shitty fucking design and retarded dinosaur screeches. makes me want to gargle bleach everytime I see it. it's like it escaped Doom 2016 and snuck up in the new game completely unbeknownst to the devs.

I swear if they carry the cybermoose design over as well I'm flipping out the window and landng on my dick

>> No.5613280

Turn off brutalshit first.

>> No.5613281
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Any gameplay mods for unreal that can be played with original maps as well as usermaps?

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>> No.5613286

Be Gentle!, Bring it on!, I own Doom!, and Watch me die! Are the original difficulties for Doom 64.

>> No.5613291

its Doom 64: Retribution, is that not what i should be playing?

>> No.5613292

Watch me Die is the hardest difficulty in the original Doom 64.

>> No.5613295

Ah, I see. You should probably get Doom 64 EX first. It’s a more faithful recreation to Doom 64. Retribution changes some things up.

>> No.5613296
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The problem is in the original doom they were meat shields to prevent you from progressing and forcing you to backpedal.

Doom 2016's design means monsters can do none of that, and as a result pinkies have no place except to, like every other monster, convince you to keep moving.

This is kinda why I say Doom 2016 isn't as much of a doom game as even something like Doom 3. Enemies aren't obstacles, they're keys and points to be collected. Imps will straight up run out of your path rather than restrict it.
Even doom 3 got this right, despite stripping out all of the action and direct empowerment aspects in exchange for fancy graphics. Enemies were still obstacles. You had to fight around or through them to progress.
Doom 2016 locks the doors and forces you to survive in a box.

>> No.5613298

Man, we are fucking snobs here.

>> No.5613303
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>classic revvie screeches and charges you
>2016's sometimes just squeals like a piggie
>slower and sometimes just floats in place saying "hey fuck me up bro"
I haven't looked at much of Eternal's gameplay but is it better than 16's by a lot?

>> No.5613304

Nah. Play whatever.

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I don’t really have a problem with them. They seem to be a bit easier with the new dash. Besides, there’s plenty of new enemies too, so Pinkies should be the least of your worries.

>> No.5613310

They haven't shown Revenants yet. Most of the enemies seem to function the same, they just have a new coat of paint.

>> No.5613314
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A lot of Nudoom felt like Diablo 3 to me for some reason, not really "generic" but just kind of boring with its hell ideas and designs. Doom 3 was pretty slow but at least had some weird fleshy business going on.
It doesn't help that Eternal showed off some blueish hell bits that remind me of Reaper of Souls.

>> No.5613315

You can break their jet pack if you shoot them in the back enough.

>> No.5613316

those blue bits weren't hell.

>> No.5613320
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Doesn’t hurt that they played a remix of Sign of Evil while they showed it too.

>> No.5613321

the cacodemons have a multiple shot attack now.

>> No.5613324
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Yeah! I'm back, baby!

>> No.5613326
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That's a bit concerning because the blue emphasis in Reaper of Souls aren't from demons.

>> No.5613327

There’s nothing wrong with Retribution, it’s just not fully accurate to the source. I’d recommend playing both to see the differences.

>> No.5613329

well what else would you suppose you'd be fighting in a Doom game?

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>> No.5613332

uh, what folder does the music in quakespasm go in again? it's not playing.

>> No.5613335

Gonna enjoy blowing them apart piece by piece

>> No.5613336

id1\music, track02-11

>> No.5613337

>It's time to kick ass and chew dog

>> No.5613341

And I’m all out of dog.

>> No.5613346 [DELETED] 

yeah so it's right where it needs to be but it's just not playing for me. also the mouse just feels... off.

>> No.5613349 [DELETED] 

... oh, no nevermind. music just came on.

shame about the fucky mouse, though.

>> No.5613354

new archville


>> No.5613356

and turns out I just needed to use the standard QS.exe instead of the SL1.2. derp.

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I'd just like to nominate Alien Armageddon as the best way to replay Duke Nukem 3D

>On top of the new episode, new enemies and new weapons and new mechanics (alt fires, vending machines that give extra health), they're all added retroactively back to the classic four campaigns along with the ability to play with or as the real Ion Maiden

>> No.5613364

Nobody steals our burning dog hair and lives

>> No.5613369

please don't bring that /v/ shitposting here.

>> No.5613383 [DELETED] 

Uh... what? I really like this mod.

>> No.5613384

It’s good, but I still prefer the old version where I get killed by the door.

>> No.5613387

god I hate that thing more than the cultists

>> No.5613397

I ain't afraid of no escalator

>> No.5613406

Blow it out your ass! Gas station explodes in the distance

>> No.5613414

Takes a while for those bastards to actually chomp down on you so you need to time it just right. Their range is just as bad as yours but you've got speed. Berserk punches will occasionally take them down in one hit so it should be a cut and dry situation... until some hitscanner shows up to make things interesting.

>> No.5613415

Just tried it out. Seemed pretty good until i got the shotgun. The firing noise is complete fucking ear rape. Must be a bug, it sounds so bad it can't be intended.

>> No.5613447

Pretty good. Nice to have a Doom 1 mapset that isn't just remaking one of the episodes.

>> No.5613448 [DELETED] 

I know what you're talking about, and it's not the shotty itself (though it is the cause)

Delete bodyhit.wav

It'll stop that effect and the game will still run fine with the vanilla shotty body hit, enjoy

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>> No.5613458 [DELETED] 
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they already blew up our submarine that was spotting Chinese boats illegally fishing in our sea (by the thousands) and our government decided to go out and say that it sank by accident because we don't have an army (or a real economy or balls)

>> No.5613468

it was for him >>5613107

>> No.5613471 [DELETED] 

I didn't know we used to have a submarine. Guess it wasn't /vr/thy.

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I guess anon is argentine and the submarine was a german 1984 tr-1700 so is retro

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China won't make mods illegal outside their goal.
They will make games even worse than they currently are, though, because the Chinese have AWFUL fucking taste in all forms of media. China is the reason Hollywood has been getting even worse, quite a few studios just aim for Chinabux at this point and that's why garbage like Bayformers keeps getting sequels. We should oppose China taking over the industry for that reason alone.

Are there any good Chinese-made DOOM wads? I remember seeing Japan did a collab megawad at some point.

>> No.5613486 [DELETED] 

Well China's gonna China. They don't care about rules. Shit. Chinese on the seas? They're probably armed to the teeth and then some. Effectively pirates. Ever talk to a seaman? It gets wild out there.

Also I like Doom.

>> No.5613493
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Why do people actually want a new Duke Nukem game?
Do you guys actually remember what Duke 3D was like?

>weak, unsatisfying weapons
>damage sponge enemies, half of which are hitscanners
>seriously, second enemy you meet, who is a hitscanner, can't even be taken down with one shotgun blast, normally takes three
>boring, unmemorable levels
>most levels are cramped corridors
>clearly designed to be a place rather than a fun videogame level
>first person platforming over instant death pits
>first person platforming over instant death pits but the area you are standing is sloped so it does that build engine thing
>the few open areas are full of hitscanners
>the first enemy you meet can fly
>can fly in the first level which is infinitely tall for no reason
>switch puzzles
>no direct sequel, just two rushed expansions which reuse levels
>a couple of bad to ok ps1 third person shooters
>duke nukem forever

And now we are in modern day.
Face it, Duke was never good.
The only reason you remember him fondly is because you were 12 and you knew you were not meant to be seeing boobies.
Grow up and stop fawning over Jon St John because hes a Randy-backed shill.

>> No.5613494

doom wads inside a submarine?

>> No.5613495

I imagine most Chinese WADs (assuming they exist) would be D!Zone-tier trash on par with the 10728-in-one hack-fuck Famicom compilations they shit out. China fucking sucks at video games.

>> No.5613504

Doesn't matter. They make a game? Ok. They don't? That was expected. At least modders get more voice clips if a new game happens.

>> No.5613507

>It's just Alien Vendetta with a new titlescreen and M_DOOM
>listed under 32 unrelated names

>> No.5613508
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It's historically significant enough that it's worth playing. Sure it has its flaws, but even masterpieces like Doom has them.
A game like Duke Nukem (like Ion Maiden) or a sequel in the original style would be a breath of fresh air. The potential combination of fast paced gameplay with classic level design and the autistic level details and easter eggs will always be appealing, unlike modern shooters where it foregoes one or the other.

>> No.5613510

Shut up, Randy.

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I want a game with the Build Trio together.

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>>damage sponge enemies, half of which are hitscanners

You better not be a Bloodfag

>> No.5613519

China has a couple decent Touhou fangames, done in the style of the real games rather than shitty 3DCG spinoffs like most fangames, though those are basically all made by one specific group of fans. I'm sure there's at least one guy in China who's good at making DOOM maps, and if he found three or four other guys who are also good at that, they could make a megawad that's decent. 99.9% of wads from there are probably shit, but people will ignore those anyway so only the good ones matter.

>> No.5613520
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>file name actually says "Extra Crispy" in it
Good job, retard

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>Do you guys actually remember what Duke 3D was like?

Yes, and I quite enjoyed myself you baby shrimp dick

>> No.5613523

Why would Randy shittalk a game he sells?

>> No.5613526

Why would Randy take down a perfectly good version of a game to replace it with shit?

>> No.5613530
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>just two rushed expansions which reuse levels
I figure you're trying to use Nuclear Winter as your argument base, but Duke Caribbean is a stellar map set and D.C. had some good-to-great levels outside of the museum level. Even Doom had it's share of unofficial expansions of questionable quality.

>no direct sequel, just two rushed expansions which reuse levels
That doesn't really matter. It's not like the first three main games of the series were some long epic about fighting the aliens from 3D.

>> No.5613535

Eviternity and the likes are just the video game variants of fat people. Technically, it's bigger and supposed to be better. But these details are like fat. Unwanted, messy and ugly, make the level worse

>> No.5613536

And here I am, liking both Sigil and modern maps.

>> No.5613537

Aren't the Chinese government like terrified of demons and witchcraft and shit and bans any depictions of things like it?
Can you even get Doom in China, legally?

>> No.5613539

That's not allowed. Where's your contrarian spirit?

>> No.5613540

So he can sell it to you again

>> No.5613541

I left it at /v/, where it belongs.

>> No.5613542

Nah dude. The combat isn't AS satisfying as Doom (or Blood), but it's not outright bad. In fact it's quite fun.
>>damage sponge enemies, half of which are hitscanners
There are 3 hitscan enemies (including the miniboss and excluding the boss). That's the same amount as Doom 2. And mini Battlelords are actually way more rare than Chaingunners.
>>seriously, second enemy you meet, who is a hitscanner, can't even be taken down with one shotgun blast, normally takes three
It only takes 2 shotgun blasts to kill a pig cop, maybe you have shit aim.
>>boring, unmemorable levels
They're way more memorable than other FPS's of the time, due to the representationalism. Duke Burger is a burger shop, Red Light District is the porn shop / strip club, etc.
>>the first enemy you meet can fly
So? That makes them much more interesting to fight than Doom's mooks (rifle zombies).
>>clearly designed to be a place rather than a fun videogame level
The levels in DN3D do represent real settings, but they are clearly abstract in their actual design. Most of the progression makes little to no logical sense. So clearly they cared about gameplay plenty.
>>switch puzzles
You're right on this one, the switch "puzzles" are really dumb.
>>no direct sequel, just two rushed expansions which reuse levels
Wrong, there were 3 expansions, one of which was indeed shit and reused levels. The other two are stellar.

>> No.5613543

You should make a game, anon. You're obviously the most qualified and mature individual here.
Don't trip.

>> No.5613545

not many submarines in mars

>> No.5613546

>not navigating the soul oceans of hell

>> No.5613547

>boring, unmemorable levels
0/10 trolling anon. Duke's leveldesign is jawdroppingly brilliant, especially Allen freakin Blum's levels. Even his stuff in E5, Egypt pyramid and Golden Gate were better than like 99,9% content made for Doom.

>> No.5613549

On a UAC controlled Mars? The same UAC that keeps ordering chainsaws? I'm sure they have at least one slime ocean sub.

>> No.5613550

It can be set on Titan

>> No.5613551

You can probably tell me where the levels are set, but I very much doubt you remember much about them.
Theres a reason people normally refer just to the episodes like "The space episode"

>> No.5613556
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Speaking of Duke Nukem, god damn, just beat the first level of Alien Armageddon and it's easily the best DN3D map I've ever played. The level design is really large-scale and non-linear yet never confusing. There's a lot of new sprites/textures, but they fit in perfectly with the stock textures and Duke Nukem tone. Some are downright hilarious. And there's so many new NPC's with full animation & rotations, there must be a really talented/dedicated artist involved. There's a few new enemies in the mix too, but they're not annoying/redundant crap like custom monsters usually are. They serve specific, balanced purposes and are used reasonably. There's even a few fancy improvements like footsteps that vary based on terrain. The whole thing is just so awesome.

>> No.5613560

Good thing Doom took place on Phobos, Deimos, Hell, and Earth then.

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This is the most retarded post i've seen in a while. Good job, anon. Here's your (you).

>> No.5613563
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>that image

>> No.5613564

Not him, but even "the space episode" I can remember plenty of memorable shit.
>space elevator as a transition between levels and even a small space train in another
>destroying a giant energy generator which explodes spectacularly, followed by the next hall collapsing behind you from your mayhem
>blowing the shit out of everything as you counter-invade their mothership
>The ominous Space Odyssey slab
And that's just a few things; I can think of more.

>> No.5613565

Episode 2 is pretty samey. 1 and 3 is good stuff.

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Apparently id officially released it over there, at a cost of 1 USD per copy even. China considered but never did ban it.

>> No.5613573

The people who played it at work are probably dead now. China, you rascal.

>> No.5613589

he's got competition now.

>> No.5613620

>but I very much doubt you remember much about them
lol fuckoff

>> No.5613635

I remember even the weak levels. But maps like Hollywood Holocaust, Death Row, Abyss, Lunar Reactor, Darkside, Derelict, Duke Burger are classes of their own.

>> No.5613636

are the wads translated then?

>> No.5613637

Oh god, that alone ruins the whole shit.

>> No.5613642
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>try sigil maps in DM
>notice they're completely different than original maps despite having the same filename
>open wad in SLADE
>deathmath maps are essentialy hidden parts of single player map

what the fuck romero

>> No.5613646

is this a problem?

>> No.5613649

I found them on accident while noclipping to check out the designs of some of the later maps. The ones in E5M7 and E5M9 especially were ones that I thought at first were old testing areas for ideas since they resembled some of the final setpieces in the singleplayer levels.

>> No.5613656

Nah, it's not like a bunch of NPC's you have to talk to/protect/escort to progress. They're just civilians scattered around the city.

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I just finished Duke Nukem 3D the other day, and it totally holds up.

>> No.5613690

The Japanese Community Project Megawad is one of the best that I've played, no joke. It's really good and, if anyone is reading this, you should go play it right now.

>> No.5613694

Doom had based Sandy fucking Petersen tho.

>> No.5613709
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Same here. I still prefer Doom, but Douk's use of 'grounded' environments and the interactivity it brings is a welcome change to the more abstract maps. Perhaps I should play Shadow Warrior and Blood and see how they're like.

>> No.5613729

Abaddon's Void (E5M5) is a really amazing hellish remake of Downtown, isn't it?

Then E5M6 crafted Minotaur's Labirynth. That map is also gud.

The rest could have been as gud as these, and Romero could have been praised a lot more.

>> No.5613742

Levelord was fucking incredible but he also hates the shit out of vidya and mapping now.

>> No.5613747

Looks like Kegan is next in line for having his mods dicked with by the asshat who was jacking a versopm pf Terminus' Booster mod.

>> No.5613781

How do I git gud at Thy Flesh Consumed

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>> No.5613805

what's the latest version of GZDoom compatible with 1st gen core-era integrated graphics?

>> No.5613809

Not really. Downtown was a culmination of Sandy's experiments relating to infighting stuff (like in, you know, Doom1's finall bossfight, when pistolstarted - or Fortress of Mystery - or Sandy's version of Dead Simple which got substituted for McGee's - or Tricks&Traps - again, all of these on pistolstart). That's its whole idea. On one hand, there is a convenient arrow (in itself a reference to E3M2), which you can follow, and, provided you pistolstart on UV, have a pretty abysmal time. On the other hand,
that's right
the whole block.
Then you clear out the adjacent buildings, suit up, and then you, okay, okay, fiiiine, chadstep along the damn arrow.

>> No.5613821

On the other hand, yeah, it could be Romero's spin on Downtown. Like, what? E5M7? contains segments clearly, how do I say it, '"supplanting'" Chasm (seeing that Sigil is D1's episode and Chasm is D2's map). God Forbid Sandy invented whatsoever in Doom. Honestly astonishing e1m8b didn't have a secret reachable with rocketjump only - or did I simply miss it? Missing the entire point of it, but that's Romero for you. After all, Industrial Zone used the aforementioned arrow-painted-on-the-ground LITERALLY - instead of figuratively (and ironically), as in Downtown itself.

>> No.5613859

what blood fix are you talking about?

>> No.5613864

I think it's called cblood.pk3, which is on NashGore's zdoom post.

>> No.5613879
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I'm a brainlet.

How do I choose a specific level in a wad?

Also how do I start a Deathmatch? And can I play with bots? I'm a noon be gentle

>> No.5613887
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What port are you using? In GZDoom hit tilde, the key to left of 1 on your keyboard, and then type "map mapXX" where XX is the map number. If you're in PrBoom+ or chocolate-doom, just type idclevXX anywhere, much like the idkfa cheat. Again, replace XX with the map number. If you're in a mapset that uses episodes, like anything for Doom 1, then the command changes a bit.
Again, get to the console in GZDoom by hitting tilde, and then type "map eXmYY" where X is the episode number and YY is the actual map. To use the idclev cheat type "idclev XY", where, again, X is the episode number and Y is the map number.
Protip: in GZDoom use listmaps in the console to list all maps with their names. It will also tell you what wad everything is from.

>> No.5613898
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Any good music to listen to while playing Quake?

The thing with Quake mappers is that they make some incredible stuff and then then often reuse the vanilla soundtrack, which is understandable since you cant slap a MIDI like in Doom but it does feel like its missing something

>> No.5613905

get rid of the autistic voice scrambler thing and you'd be good.

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>> No.5613923

facts and truth: the post

>> No.5613934

I think its cool that Dew and Xaser playtested SIGIL, as well as Jimmy providing midis.

>> No.5613949


la tailor girl beta release;

>> No.5613954
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Thank you anon. I'm playing on the switch you see and there's no console input added. And there's no indication if keyboard presses even work but I typed "idclev55" in the game, not even paused, and it works.

My GZDoom autosaves and reloads last autosave when I die and I'm stuck on Sigil E5M5 start with 5 health and couldnt restart the level. this worked. I Appreciate it!!

>> No.5613956

The quake champions ost is pretty banging

>> No.5613959
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What port are you using then? Did GZDoom get ported already?

>> No.5613960

Am I the only one that find hexen boring as fuck? i get it that it try to be different but the level architecture is just tedious, heretic is miles better.

>> No.5613964

You really should. They’re great.

>> No.5613981

Good choice.

>> No.5613993 [DELETED] 
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Why are Civvie fans braindead sheep?

>> No.5613996

It's the Skub principle.
Also Skub is shit. Fuck you Skub lovers

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you have gone too far anon

>> No.5614000
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>GGGMan is known to rush out reviews and will praise any game given a big enough paycheck
>he praises the port without mentioning any of the inaccuracies despite his claims of playing the original for hundreds of hours
>surprised when people are skeptical of him
didn't he also mention that BloodGDX is a "broken russian" port or something despite being one of the most accurate available ports?

>> No.5614003

Yep I'm using GZDoom. It got ported 2 weeks ago. It's pretty fucking great. But the guy didn't implement typing into console. But I key presses work fine in game.

GZDoom is the 4th Doom port but the only actual decent one.

>Chocolate Doom

>> No.5614008

How does it perform?

>> No.5614012
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ok shill, nice anime avatar
i don't even watch namechangemanlives
have you considered that others didn't either, didn't get blood fresh supply, saw what was wrong with it, and then got shown someone saying that it's good when it clearly wasn't

reality is never as simple as you want it to be
i.e. everyone knows everything and only take sides when X says so

you want to call people braindead sheep, first you need to not be one yourself

>> No.5614013

Man, E5M5 is a fantastic level.

>> No.5614015
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>being right is being sheep
Also that motherfucker has no right to talk when Gman shits out videos so fast that it's obvious that he hasn't played a game enough to give it a proper review.

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I played through Blood Fresh Supply's episode 1 and found no faults (because I never played it originally) - it felt like the real thing, so who cares?

I just found it to be a shit game

>> No.5614017

Instead of talking about e-celebs how about you nerds post fun wads
I beat Back to Saturn X recently and enjoyed it

>> No.5614019
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>so who cares
go play in traffic. I fucking despise faggots like you who disregard accuracy because "oh it plays fine." I bet you still use ZSNES because "muh comfy snowflakes."

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>because I never played it originally
Then who cares about your opinion on accuracy. If Gman was reviewing the actual game it'd be fine, the problem is he was reviewing a port and then claimed it was accurate.

It's like saying the Disney blu-rays of old animated films are good. Sure the film itself is still good, but jesus christ you fucked up

>> No.5614021

snowflakes version is zoomer-tier

>> No.5614023

I'm looking forward to BTSX Episode 3. Fingers crossed it actually comes out this year.

>> No.5614024 [DELETED] 

>Blood is only good if the port is 100% accurate!!!1

I bought it to support Nightdive and got an okay Build game out of the deal.


Plus they're already working on patching it.

Rushing out a video about how it isn't "perfect" is just as pathetic.

>> No.5614026

How the fuck did Touhou Doom get ranked as the 21st best GZDoom mod? The level design is absolute trash and the fanfiction-tier writing really doesn't help. I love Touhou, but I'm not giving it a free pass just because it appeals to me.

>> No.5614029

post mod loading combos

>> No.5614031
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> "i know what i'm talking about"
> you don't know what you're talking about
> "yeah but who cares lol"

ports are supposed to be, with added modern support and convenience
i suppose a car is a car even if it only has one wheel, as long as it moves
> rushing out a video
completely ignore and disregard the one that you are defending that was exponentially more rushed

don't drop out of school kids

>> No.5614037
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No one's saying that. Blood is a pretty amazing game no matter the port, but when reviewing SPECIFICALLY the quality of the port it's pretty damn important to mention inaccuracies. Sure they're going to fix it, but we've had ports like BloodGDX and NBlood that've already had stuff like that down pat.
If they did a "fresh" review of the game then fine, reviewing it as a good game is valid, but when you've already reviewed the game and are now reviewing a port of it, you can't disregard shit like that.
>supporting Nightdive
why buy their shit products? Buy the stuff that's actually good and don't give them a dime until the product is working as intended.
Rushing a video out without testing (or just not fucking mentioning) its accuracy is even more pathetic.

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> its good shutup you dont know what youre talking about
> its not, we do, and we can prove it
> omg you fucking tryhards who cares now give them your money

>> No.5614041
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This anon >>5611908 here
Ended up settling on a comfy lil set up of
>Split HUD
>Smooth Doom(using its gore, Nash, Ketchup and Bolognese seemed like too much)
>Smooth Textures
>Better SFX
>Vanilla Essence (Strict Doom plus 1080p for a little less crispiness)
For Doom + Sigil

>> No.5614042

I'm playing through Doom II. Is it normal that I feel like it encourages save scumming more than the original?

>> No.5614049

So is there a MIDI version of the Buckethead soundtrack? I'd prefer that just for consistency

>> No.5614051
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>Smooth Doom (when they fix Doom (Strict) compatibility)
>split hud
>Vanilla Essence
>the mapset's wad
if playing oblige maps or stuff that doesn't change the music I like a little .pk3 called "3rdUnofficial-nowthatswhaticallmidi-expansion.pk3"
Can't remember where I got it. Googling it gave me a forum post where I reupped it lol.

>> No.5614053

>(when they fix Doom (Strict) compatibility)

>> No.5614062
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For some reason monsters corpses have infinite height when using smooth doom. Reverting to an old 2018 version fixed it but someone on the post's replies already mentioned it.
They also took out my favorite feature. That being the randomized monster sprites and decorations.
There's also some accuracy issues regarding the shotgun, (ironically Civvie mentioned it in his pro doom videos a long time ago.) but it still hasn't been fixed even though, in the forum post there's been a few people telling them what the exact problem is.

>> No.5614069

You are both wrong about the number of expansions. Expansions were:
>Plutonium Pak
>Duke!Zone 2 (first one was just collection of maps, and not a real expansion)
>Duke It Out In D.C.
>Duke: Caribbean
>Duke: Nuclear Winter
>Duke Extreme

>> No.5614071

>fullscreen status bar mod
>doom 1/2 sprite fixes
>sc 55 ogg music packs
I dont use anything else, maybe I'm missing something good but this is what I use

>> No.5614075

I usually load D2SPFX19.WAD, unless its BTSX or Ancient Aliens, as they have their own special versions.

>> No.5614082
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Never knew about vanilla essence until you guys talked about
The results are really interesting when you experiment a bit, turn off the 35 FPS cap, get the aspect ratio to your native resolution and you get yourself some crunchy niceness

>Ancient Aliens+HND+Nashgore+Vanilla Essence

kinda defeats the point of it being vanilla but what the fuck this is funky, I LOVE IT

>> No.5614086

Speaking of NBlood, what are the major differences between it and BloodGDX? I've mostly seen folks swear by the latter even if it uses Java.

>> No.5614095
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IDK. I called him out on his BS quite a bit before Civvie's video, and even got a response lol.
Unfortunately Youtube comments don't show exact date, but I did comment only a few hours after vid was up, while Gman still answered the comments, which is 3 days before civvies vids.

>> No.5614098

why do i believe that the Doom Hunter is Sarge Kelly

>> No.5614107

Java is good in fact, since it can run on anything that runs Java, which is pretty much anything these days.
Bitches who don't know shit are complaining because
a) author is Russian (and complainers are prejudiced fucks)
b) they fear Java exploits (even though JRE is most likely already installed on their machines and running a port made on it makes no difference for their security)
c) they are pissy about it not being open source (despite it being open for quite some time)

and any other number of stupid reasons.

NBlood still has some minor inacuracies, but is most accurate visually.
GDX is very accurate gameplay wise, but polymost renderer handles lighting differently from original.

GDX guy is writing a software renderer that will be accurate though.

>> No.5614116

it wasnt discovered that most of the java and such exploits happened because of Intel CPU's?

>> No.5614118
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I'm having way too much fun with this

>> No.5614125
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Holy shit I got access to the Prodeus beta!

>> No.5614126

This is what video games ACTUALLY looked like in 1996.

>> No.5614128

I love BTSX 1 & 2, Ancient Aliens, Sunlust and Eviternity. That being said, I really do think that Sigil is one of this year's best wads. I really enjoyed playing it, and after few months I will play it again.

>> No.5614130

cursed image

>> No.5614132

That hud. Looks like usual indie game developer zoomer's view of retrogames. Ugly mix of modern hd and stuff that has lower resolution than the original games, that it tries to imitate.

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I will give it to you
you are on point this time

>> No.5614135

Ok unless there's a large open area then FPS drops. Modern mods are too intense to run too. Guy who ported it said that modern mods are script heavy and whatever the switch runs on doesn't have support for those

>> No.5614136

Quake Doom? Gib wad

>> No.5614139

dimension of the boomed

>> No.5614142 [DELETED] 

Hideous + Quake map. Anon, please.

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Yep. Just how I remember it

>> No.5614146

what does vanilla essence do exactly?

>> No.5614147

Hm. What distortion shader is that for the explosion? (if it's indeed what it is)

>> No.5614148

want to know this aswell

>> No.5614151

it lets you toggle vanilla mode with a single key press, so you can go from stock GZDoom to Chocolate Doom tier visuals, the best part is that you can customize it to your liking,
I dont think it adds that many changes other than visual elements

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>> No.5614157
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couldn't tell you about frame drops

It's a toggle for vanilla-esque mode. You hit a key and it lowers your resolution, centers your cursor and sets your compatibility mode, as well as setting a bunch of lighting settings. It's a pretty handy mod.

ask vasyan who he stole it from.

It's beautiful aint it?

>> No.5614159

Funny joke.

>> No.5614160
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Doom With Sprinkles, huh?
That's a lot of neat settings to mess around with.

>> No.5614163

But Prodeus is decent.

>> No.5614171

The Depressing thing is there are people swearing blind that this is true about Prodeus being "retro".

>> No.5614175

Wait, scratch that. Just the retro shader part.

>> No.5614178

It doesn't look very good, that filter looks ugly and the weapon lineup is really boring. They're not even trying to do anything unique or interesting with the arsenal

>> No.5614179

It’s not retro, its just inspired by it. I think the Sprites have 16 rotations instead of 8.

>> No.5614182

Yeah. I hope they fix it later. Shotgun needs a better alt fire.

>> No.5614183

Oh wow.

>> No.5614184

Nothing wrong with tried and tested classic lineup.
Unique/gimmicky guns are likely to be not as useful
And quite a lot of the gimmicks already popped up somewhere so even if they try to add something fun there'd be faags who come up and say "you stole it from X"

Sprites are generated from 3D models on level load IIRC. And you can toggle between sprites and models on the fly.

>> No.5614185

Sigil would have been 5x better with the SSG

>> No.5614187

At this point why not just zorch'em

>> No.5614189

Nah. SIGIL would've been piss easy with it.

>> No.5614190

Not much inspiration as it's covered in filters and shit to make it look even worse.

It's really just a marketing term for "we intentionally made something look shit instead of working within old limits that inspired creativity at the time".

>> No.5614192

You get a SSG but half of the ammo is gone. FUG

>> No.5614193

Because zorching leaves nothing behind.

>> No.5614195

>Nothing wrong with tried and tested classic lineup
It's a problem when everything else is so safe. In fact the only really interesting standout thing I've seen this game has is the automap.
It's also a problem when they don't even bother to take a default doom style arsenal and then not even attempt to give it it's own personality, I'd be fine with no new mechanics but when the weapons are so stock that's a massive downer for me.
The weapons of an FPS are the real stars and when you're not even attempting to do anything cool with them I feel like the rest of the game is gonna have the same blandness throughout.

>> No.5614196

Doom (and Quake 1) are peak onions territory now, thanks John

>> No.5614198

Here you go.

>> No.5614201

My biggest complaint with modern "retro shooters" is that they don't take one of the biggest draws of the genre. That being the amazing graphics these games had at the time. I'm not expecting something Battlefield level I just want something that makes me go "wow." Doom 2016 did that but didn't take that much from retro shooters. It's either "go fully retro down to the graphics" or "get god tier graphics and compromise on the gameplay." I mean even the modern shadow warrior games can be very easily beaten by slashing your sword around, and has fuck all guns (at least in the first one) but hey, they look great!
Prodeus caught my attention and then immediately lost it when I saw the shit graphical style.

>> No.5614205

Not really. Just less of a chore. Instead of taking 40 seconds to kill those 2 cacodemons and that baron of hell it will only take 20.

>> No.5614206

Try Amid Evil. It's Heretic inspired and has low res textures but still manages to look visually stunning at times.

>> No.5614207

To be fair. The quicker a monster dies, the less projectiles they fire and the less time they and other monsters have a chance to force you to move.

>> No.5614208

Optional. Vanishing corpses. Makes archie sad.
But I get what you're saying.

>> No.5614210

That's what I mean. I'm kind of tired of all the compromises. Just give me a no-stops pulled graphical powerhouse with God tier retro-inspired action and I'll die a happy man.

>> No.5614212

Prodeus has a vomit inducing art direction, but I am looking forward to the maps. I'm a big fan of Dragonfly's shit.

>> No.5614216

But Sigil isn't a let down because it's all that hard. It's a let down because it's just a fucking slog and a chore. All those barons and cacos and you have very little ammo and have to just move left and right and just fire single shotgun shots over and over. Which is why the SSG would cut down the time and things would go faster and you'd have a overall more fun time

>> No.5614217

It taking less time makes dealing with them in tight corners a lot easier, because they're dead before they can even take advantage of the situation.

>> No.5614218

Good thing someone whipped up an SSG addon in one of the previous threads then. Try it out if you can find it.

>> No.5614223

This. The biggest problem with sigil is that there's barely enough ammo to complete the levels. By m5 (the one with the two cybers) I had like 5 points of health and 10 or so shots in my pistol. Was thinking about restarting the level from a true pistol start bit I was worried I was only gonna find shells and boxes rather than shotguns in the map.

>> No.5614225
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No one seems to dig the OP pun
Man I'm bummed

Or should I say

>> No.5614230

Deflating Cacos are still hilarious to me.

>> No.5614231

>Sigil themed around Baphomet with art and splash screens and story all about him
>T-Shirt with him
>Never see him, never fight him, final "boss" is a black dark hallway

Man I'm so disappointed

>> No.5614232

That guy is DEFINITELY Boom compatible.

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Fill 'er back up and you've got an ally.
If only.

>> No.5614245

That’s because you fight him in
Doom 2.

>> No.5614247

Are you writing in english?

>> No.5614248

Try saving rockets for Barons.

>> No.5614250

I really liked it!

>> No.5614252

No, you don't.
You fight Romero.

>> No.5614254

Exactly. He’s trying to give you a hint.

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Well Romero worked with what was there, like any oldschool mapper would. He didn't hire any artists.
Not that he'd need to. I mean, we've got this wonderful creation. He obviously should have used it.

>> No.5614274

Most of them are only very superficially inspired by any retro game, both in graphics and gameplay.

The rest is just making it look shit and play like Painkiller or Serious Sam.

>> No.5614286

Oh yeah, the Icon of Sin was described as having arms, wasn’t it?

>> No.5614304

That requires a pretty big team, m8y. When you see a graphical powerhouse somewhere online that touts being made by one person it's always a vertical slice of what would be a full game. A sliver of content, because creating a graphically intensive game takes a shitload of time. Stretched across a small team of 3 or 4 people plus gameplay, plus level design, plus audio, plus music, plus time, etc etc...
Isn't really a feasible project.

>> No.5614310

>All these complaints about ammo in SIGIL
I'm up to the secret level, and I haven't had this issue at all, personally. Though I have been using berserk/chainsaw on imps/pinkies a lot, and only using rocket launcher and plasma on barons. I also didn't bother shooting the Cybers in m2 and 5.

>> No.5614313
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At the end of Doom 2, yeah.

>> No.5614314


What is this?

>> No.5614317

I'd rather have something safe than something shitty

>> No.5614318

People generally don't conserve ammo, I think. "I'll get more." Not how one should play Sigil.

>> No.5614321

They play Doom and talk about things.

>> No.5614323
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Literally the worst wad ever created, my immersion is completely ruined.

>> No.5614324

A less interesting Intermission?

>> No.5614330

Winter’s Fury is pretty good.

>> No.5614331

Alright then why bother with this when Doom is free and maps are essentially limitless? I mean one of the guys that makes maps for Prodeus has made Doom maps. You can play it safe with familiar weapons and mechanics, but with better art direction for the monsters, all the while not having to pay anything for it?
I don't see a point for Prodeus' existence seeing as they're not doing anything new or interesting.

>> No.5614332
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Turn off that texture filtering right now.

>> No.5614335

nice stock GZDOOM filtering bethesda boys

>> No.5614337

so are these two bozos involved in any way with the development of Eternal?

>> No.5614338

I hate it.

>> No.5614340

The level editor looks really nice and intuitive compared to DOOM mapping tools. I can see myself playing with that a lot since it will take much less effort to create something cool with it than it would to make a DOOM map.

>> No.5614343

At least they're playing something cool and it's not just the seven hundred millionth Brutal Doom/Project Brutality showcase.

>> No.5614345

>Bethesda showcase mods of a 25 year old game because they won't let anyone mod their 2016 version


>> No.5614347

Wait what the fuck, they're including a level editor?

>> No.5614354

Get those schlubs to play MetaDoom.

>> No.5614356

Yes. There's a short video demo showing off a little of what you can do with it. It looks pretty good not gonna lie m8

>> No.5614363

yeah these guys are really not that interesting

>> No.5614369

Alright my opinion on Prodeus is less harsh then. I still think the weapons are boring and that ugly filter is better switched off, but providing map making tools is cool

>> No.5614376

Bethesda milking the community for ideas and content isn't anything new but damn. Old Doom mods? This is giving me acid blood.

I just hate Bethesda. Imagine that.

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>> No.5614383

How is showcasing neat old wads milking content out of the community? It's not like they're charging you money to watch the stream or access these, it's just a stream where two schlubs who really like doom are talking and playing.

>> No.5614386

They’re thinking of allowing mods for Eternal.

>> No.5614390

And you could have it all! My empire of dirt!

>> No.5614391

Really? Is there a source on this? id's relationship with bethesda seems to be them constantly fighting against Bethy's bullshit, like how they removed Denuvo from Doom 2016 after a couple months.

>> No.5614394

Theyve spent 20 minutes going "isn't this modding thing awesome? Isn't this cool? Wouldn't you love to do this? Haha! Anyway go play SnapMaps™ in DOOM® 2016!

>> No.5614402

They have to allow mods if they want the game to stay alive. I know I'm never going back to Doom 2016. Seen everything there is to see.

>> No.5614403

Jesus, that's gross. Hopefully what that one anon said was true and Eternal will have mod support.

>> No.5614434

"we know there are slayers all over the world"
not a fan of this corporatespeak

>> No.5614439

If they'd literally just said "Doom fans" it would have been fine but corpos need to fucking generate WACKY WORDS for their fanbase.

>> No.5614441

It was during the Q&A session at Quakecon with one of the id guys, Marty Stratton. They said that mod support wouldn’t be available at launch, and that there’s no guarantee that Eternal will be able to support mods, but added that the studio has spent time making the "game code more flexible", and that mod support is a "long-term initiative".

>> No.5614445

That's really cool, id is such a great developer, it's such a damn shame they fell into Bethesda's clutches.

>> No.5614446

Not even corporate anymore. Just streaming culture in general.

>> No.5614451

Eternal for E3 confirmed.
Shit. All of this should be in /v/, not /vr/.

>> No.5614453

Streaming in general, with the obvious exceptions, seems like such a corporate tool that it's basically one-to-one.

>> No.5614461

Submit to the hivemind. Provide content for the streamer. Do their work for them. Yes. Yes...

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I imagine making actual mods for idTech6 would be significantly more difficult than what's most modders are ready for.

>> No.5614469

I think what bothers me about gman's review the most is that he sounds so goddamn bitter about it. Really gives me the impression that he tried to rush through the wad, and lost his patience when the level design couldn't accommodate that.

>> No.5614473

Well that's just a given. But the option needs to be there. For the future. People figure things out.

>> No.5614475

True. But they might be able to get the weapons from the previous game back.

>> No.5614480

And there it is. Scumbags.

>> No.5614491

No time to not play like a complete retard when you just HAVE to have a video out for something before anyone else.

>> No.5614493

That’s because they did an interview with Pyroscourge.

>> No.5614494

>falls into pit
>dies since there's no obvious exit

First impression is false impression.

>> No.5614504

Maybe he's bitter that Romero wasn't paying him, or maybe he wanted review code and didn't get it.

>> No.5614508

Or maybe Romero made him his bitch.

>> No.5614510

There is this thing, maybe you happened to hear about it sometime, it's called "pistolstart".

>> No.5614517

Source? Then why did he make more levels for World Tour a few years ago?

>> No.5614528

Wait for Witchfire then.
Or just play Amid Evil now because the gameplay is awesome regardless of how low-res the textures are.

>> No.5614537

He constantly says how much he hates it all, I guess he got paid a fuckton to make him do enough to stick his name to it.

>> No.5614569

Any other guides for doom modding beyond what's in the pastebin, which is surprisingly lacking in both the amount and quality.
Still can't figure out why, for example, weapon.wimpy weapon works in D4T. But does not work in my own weapon as ''that's not a function that exists lol''. Despite both being in decorate and not one place in the entire internet saying you need to do more to make flags work

>> No.5614582

It's gotta have the plus.

>> No.5614589

>Implying I don't know this.

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That's terrible and pointless, John

>> No.5614615

>that tiny caco at the end of E2M1

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>> No.5614625

I literally copy and pasted it from another weapon in the same position it did to make sure its all right.
It randomly decided to work after I closed and reopened slade and did the exact same thing again slightly higher up

>> No.5614628

what do we think of wrath of chronos
i miss when its para-leveling was less absurd and playing it coop didnt mean everyone but the top level guy got one shot.
you get no ammo without a mage too so it sucks solo

>> No.5614653

Haven't really played it since they changed the UI to one nicked from Guncaster, is this a recent development with the ammo issues?

>> No.5614687

dunno, i just know nothing drops ammo for me now. at all. not a single enemy in any iwad.
but i also didnt play woc for years so i have no clue if this has been fucked recently or for years

>> No.5614693

>Play 'hardcore' mods to make shit harder
>Literally can't see through even a single inch of any shadow

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>> No.5614704

And High Noon Drifter.

>> No.5614707
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Try the minimap mod I linked you lazy bums!

>> No.5614715

i like the vanilla minimap, its nice, fond memories of using it in Super Demon to view where the demon is at all times and jump miles away to plink with hitscans until it dies

>> No.5614717

Linking for convenience.

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>tfw you can't find the secrets no matter how hard you try

Or the secret exit

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>> No.5614740

Played through Sigil a second time lads and I really enjoyed it. The only part I really have a problem with is that fucking ledge you drop off in M6 and everywhere goes dark then two cacos spawn and you can't hit it through the blue flame stand but it can hit you.

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Have yourself a sneak peek.

>> No.5614764

Any handy way I can play Deathmatch against bots? I don't have any friend (awww) and I wanna check out the Sigil DM maps.

>> No.5614768

The what now?

>> No.5614769

ive been playing doom for over 20 years and dunno where most are. i find looking for them absurdly boring. i just want to shoot things

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>> No.5614774

Oh, that sounds cool. I don't know when though; better ask the guy working on it.

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I'm sure we'll get an update soon.

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Fanta Factory

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>> No.5614824

D4T is too hard. I lose 100 armor in like 2 hits from the weakest enemies who perfectly hone in on my location and shoot borderline hitscan or actual hitscan at me the moment I exist in their reality

>> No.5614827

with what difficulty?

>> No.5614829

>hiding lewd images of your waifu in your maps

>> No.5614862

I remember you. I remember playing venice.wad and liking it so much I did a picture with alphys and eileen and now eileen is my waifu. good times.

>> No.5614867

How is Final Doomer? I might give it a shot after Sigil

>> No.5614870

Generally a bit easier than vanilla. Technical at times. Pretty good nevertheless.

>> No.5614897

How can I consistently fight Revenants up close? It seems that even if I bait their punch they're just fire a missile immediately before I have time to react.

>> No.5614901

Chaingun. Dance, bonedaddy!

>> No.5614910

I don't have one. I'm on Map22 on Scythe and I keep losing large chunks of my health to them when the SSG doesn't 2-shot.

>> No.5614914

He was never my friend to begin with.

>> No.5614916

the default one of the like 9 fucking optons it gives

>> No.5614927

At least it's not the furfag shit that's hidden in ACS Arcade.

>> No.5614930

if i recall, some part of it are tied to the mod's mechanics and the other is about the map's enemy count which was normally affected by the vanilla difficulty settings

>> No.5614939

I have a hard time picturing Civvie looking like anything other than that character from Carmageddon irl. it fits his voice perfectly.

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>> No.5614965

shut UP dude we're still on page 6

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>> No.5615052

Check the replies

>> No.5615062

Oh, I found it. I'll provide some input in the next thread.

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>> No.5615509

>allowing mods for Eternal
thanks for the privilege of putting hours of work so people will play your game bethesda. are you gonna monetize mods as well?

>> No.5615536

Join the slayers club and get POINTS for sending in content, anon! You can trade them in for SUPER POINTS at some point! Amass enough SUPER POINTS and Bethesda will give you a 50x50 jpg of Doomguy not looking at the camera.
Fucking worth it.

>> No.5615580

Blood's a mix between doom 2's abstract levels and Duke's realistic ones.

It's fucking great.

>> No.5617000

Well you caught me while I was checking for Sigil. I'm not sure exactly what the issue is honestly but if you or someone else can give an actual level I can check it out.

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