Dragon Quest

[Anonymous No.5601080]

Tell me more about Dragon Quest

I am playing through DQ3 i'm about to leave Portogoa to get Black Pepper. On one hand the game is alright but I'm getting frustrated with the shoddy translation so it's hard to look up what anything does.

I feel like I had more fun in Final Fantasy 5, I looked up Dragon Quest 6 but it looks almost the same as 3 and will need a translation too. I just heard you could get slime characters?

So what is the best Dragon Quest game?

[Anonymous No.5601120]

[Anonymous No.5601271]

Just got the ship boys time to see the world

[Anonymous No.5601303]

>>5601080

I am also kind of frustrated by the personality system as even if I get the book I want for a character, if i equip something it will over-ride the personality i want

[Anonymous No.5601363]

It's fun to build your own party.
DQI is like Wizardry or Ultima, but with only one character.
DQII started the party trend, but it's very unbalanced in the sense that your other characters are worthless.
DQIV has a storyline divided into chapters. You play as a different character until the last chapter, where you play as the hero. You don't control your party characters, but you can setup the ai and there's a cheat code to enable manual control. The nes version has some bugs, like a character using a instant death skill when it won't work. The ds/mobile version has updated graphics, a new intro, a post game chapter, a new character, improved ai and party chat (mobile only), which gives more deep into characters since they become walking cardboards when they join you.
DQV is considered the best in the series, mainly because the storyline goes through three eras. You play as child, then as an adult who gets married and a final chapter with your family. Has recruitable monsters and the best soundtrack in the series, imo. The ds/mobile version have the same changes as IV, but it also adds a new wife.
DQVI is sometimes considered the worst, but because it declines after certain point, it feels like a rough version of DQVII.
If you want something like FF5, VII has a job system, but it's not recommended for welcomers as is quite extensive.

In my opinion the best ones are V, VII and VIII in no particular order.

[Anonymous No.5601372]

>>5601363
>a character using a instant death skill when it won't work
So infamous, the Musou-esque DQ Heroes spin-offs made Kiryl's special attack a great big reference to it.

[Anonymous No.5601651]

>>5601303
That's what you get for playing a remake of DQ3 instead of DQ3.

[Anonymous No.5601731]

>>5601363

did I fuck up by starting with 3

idk how i feel about this job-change system

[Anonymous No.5601784]

>>5601731
DQ3 has more in common with FF1 really, except it has a more extensive party building mechanic. what you really want is to play 9 if FF5's job system is the selling point since it greatly expands on it without feeling shallow as 6's. it's not retro though

[Anonymous No.5601820]

>>5601784

I'm just not sure how to change my party members right now

I have Hero/Soldier/Thief/Mage

I nkow i have to turn one into a sage

[Anonymous No.5601831]

>>5601120
Amazing.

[Anonymous No.5601846]

>>5601820
>>5601820
Hero/Soldier/Sage/Sage or Hero/Soldier/Fighter/Sage is usually the way to go till endgame. mostly because Sages are basically a straight upgrade and a combo class of cleric and mage that makes the latter virtually redundant. You might also need the fighter than thief since DQ3 thieves are worse than any FF version of thieves and fighters are both fast and hit harder/crits more

[Anonymous No.5601860]

>>5601820
also if you 're talking about swapping classes, you need to get to the dharma temple north of where you're headed from where you go to buy the spices from

[Anonymous No.5601905]

>>5601860

yeah all my chars are lvl 20 now but i realized Mage continues learning spells... I was going ot make them a cleric but now i don't think so

I started the game with thief becaues i wanted a whip, but now my hero can hold a whip

I guess i'll make thief a fighter and mage a sage?

[Anonymous No.5601913]

>>5601905

or soldier->sage, thief->fighter, mage->soldier?

[Anonymous No.5601919]

>>5601905
yeah there's a reason why people call mages a discount sage there and the slight speed sacrifice and the lack of whips/boomerangs are worth it for the class change for fighter imo. Your hero could instead switch between his sword and whips/boomerangs instead

[Anonymous No.5601924]

>>5601919
*for the insane damage boost

[Anonymous No.5602163]

The items in this game are so fucked up

What is the Garter Belt mysterious power?
What is orochi sword special effect when you equip it?

Dealer says all kinds of shit

[Anonymous No.5602175]

>>5602163
>sword special effect when you equip it
Pretty sure this is never the case with any item in any DQ game. If I remember correctly, the Orochi Sword lets you cast Increase for free if you use it as an item in battle. The trick is putting it in a convenient spot in the inventory so you can quickly select if, if you plan to spam it instead of using your own MP for Increase.

[Anonymous No.5602182]

>>5602163
Changes your personality to Sexy while equipped, casts Increase when used in battle.

[Anonymous No.5602223]

tfw final key

[Anonymous No.5602225]

>>5601120
What's wrong with a Buddhist swastika

[Anonymous No.5602287]

>>5601120
Nazi swastika is tilted 90 degrees. A square swastika is a buddhist symbol.

[Anonymous No.5602328]

Class changing let's you get warriors with and martial artists that can cast spells. You really only need to change your mage to a warrior after getting bikill and whatever to a sage when you can. Also the best part of the game is coming up. Keep in mind the original came out in the early months of '88. It's basically the jrpg form perfected and is the template for essentially every one made since then.

[Anonymous No.5602416]

>>5601080
>So what is the best Dragon Quest game?

[Anonymous No.5602424]

>>5601080
>So what is the best Dragon Quest game?
That one

[Anonymous No.5602441]

>>5602416

got bored fast of that one

[Anonymous No.5602458]

>>5602416
unironically this, or DQ V

[Anonymous No.5602475]

DQM2 and Last Bible 3 is the best DQ game

[Anonymous No.5602478]

>the shoddy translation
>need a translation too.
You won't be able to truly appreciate DQ if you need translations.

[Anonymous No.5602620]

>Tell me more about Dragon Quest
It's a grinding simulator. The sequels don't necessarily improve upon anything, they just add more creative ways to grind.

>So what is the best Dragon Quest game?
IMHO, I started losing interest after the second game. So I'll say the second game was the pinnacle of the series. Other anons are certainly welcome to disagree with that assessment, but I doubt they can do so without sperging out like autists. Which should speak volumes about how productive it is to post such an inquiry on /vr/ of all places.

None of the other DQ titles resonated with me, because there was too much rehashing of existing ideas and assets, and not enough plot substance to hold it all together. When DQ does implement something new, it's a lot of wasted potential. e.g. DQ3 has a rich class system, but when you get right down to it, there's no reason to use half the classes or care about min-maxing - as always, grinding and mashing the A button will eventually lead you to victory.

>>5601363
>DQV is considered the best in the series
No it isn't. There's one or two anons on /vr/ who have a severe autism boner for DQ5, but it's definitely not the most mainstream or widely celebrated entry in the series. It's the third DQ game that gets the warmest reception overall, especially in Japan. This is common knowledge.

[Anonymous No.5602785]

>>5602620
>and not enough plot substance to hold it all together.
>Playing for the plot
Maybe you want a book?

[Anonymous No.5602797]

>>5602620
Imagine having your head this far up your own ass.

[Anonymous No.5602809]

>>5602620
>grinding simulator
>just grind and mash A
>DQ3 has a rich class system, but when you get right down to it, there's no reason to use half the classes or care about min-maxing - as always, grinding and mashing the A button will eventually lead you to victory.

This downside only applies to people who enjoy grinding incessantly before doing a new area or dungeon, which is quite unnatural and not how most fans play. So your opinion really misses the mark.

>DQ5 isn't the best
You wouldn't know because you "stopped" playing at DQ2 from the sound of it. Watching lets play vids and dabbling a bit in some random titles doesn't count. That's why you appeal to other people's opinions and japanese polls because you don't have your own experience of the matter.

[Anonymous No.5603624]

>>5602620
Nice to see another dq2 bro!

[Anonymous No.5603638]

>>5602785
well the game sure isn't that fun compared to other jrpgs so what is its strong point? jesus. this is why dq fans are insufferable

[Anonymous No.5604000]

>>5603638
What jrpgs do you enjoy, first of all, before I explain it's strengths.

[Anonymous No.5604051]

>>5604000
>I refuse to talk about the game or speak on why its enjoyable, first list every jrpg you've played so I can explain why DQ is the best one despite being a snorefest
take your bait back to /v/

[Anonymous No.5604059]

>DQ5 isn't the best
>it just happen to be highly praised and a fan favourite in japan and everywere else
wut

[Anonymous No.5604239]

>>5604051
Need to know if you actually enjoy jrpgs because your critiques were meme tier bait.
What are your favourites and are you more of a story, open world, customization or combat sort of player?

[Anonymous No.5604252]

>>5604239
nothing in specific has to appeal to me, if a game is good its good. you posting that as your response is bait and im not taking it any further lad.

[Anonymous No.5604280]

>>5604252
Alright, I thought you were a shill and this confirms it.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Anonymous No.5604295]

>>5604252
>no rpg appeals to me
>let me tell you why DQ is bad...you see it has rpg elements and I don't like those!

[Anonymous No.5604305]

>>5601363
>DQI is like Wizardry or Ultima, but with only one character.
Ultima 1 and 2 only had one character.

[Anonymous No.5604346]

>>5602478

do you read japanese?

[Anonymous No.5604387]

>>5604346
I learned it with the help of DQ.

[Anonymous No.5604395]

>>5604295
Stat grinding is not an RPG element

[Anonymous No.5604559]

>be a mage
>devote your life to mage-craft
>can't cast an effect-spell on an enemy without it failing half the time

Why are RPGs so fucking gay about this????? I need to cast Stopspell so my party doesn't get sleep locked for 20 turns fuckkkkkkk

[Anonymous No.5604574]

>>5604395
Ultima, the game which fucking defined what the video game genre 'RPG' is, was all about stat grinding by repeately visiting the sign posts.

[Anonymous No.5604678]

>>5604280
you still haven't posted anything regarding the factors of what makes DQ a quality rpg series and it once again confirms the fact that DQ fans are insufferable. You all have little to nothing to actually say about the series. Come back when you stop shilling for something you in-gregarious waste.
>>5604295
don't misquote, you look stupid and incapable of basic motor skills such as reading as identified here.

[Anonymous No.5604701]

>>5604678
>ya I hate rpgs so what? tell me why DQ is good series.
>come on! stop exposing me and just take my bait!!!
Ahem, no.

[Anonymous No.5604709]

>>5602809
>>5604678
You played yourself.

[Anonymous No.5604717]

>getting baited and not talking about the game

i bet you don't know how i got a cat in my party

[Anonymous No.5604718]

>>5602620
>>5604678
Seething.

[Anonymous No.5604860]

>>5604718
>"S-seething!!"
Have sex.

[Anonymous No.5604879]

>>5604559
>>can't cast an effect-spell on an enemy without it failing half the time
You have to know which enemies have a high percentage of being affected by it. You learn as you play through DQ games, but there is usually a pattern. For example, sleep spells tend to work 90% of the time on big ass mammals or dragons. Surround spells almost always work on enemies with high attack power.

It's all determined by percentages, at least in the old games. All enemies have a percentage associated with each spell. 0% is immunity, 100% means that it will never fail if used agains them and then there is 25%, 50% and 75%. The enemy types are usually easy to discern, so you can practically tell these percentages by simply seeing the enemy and identifying it as a certain type of creature.

In the old NES games, these percentages affect the attack spells too, which is pretty interesting. A fire spell may fail to hit an enemy but hit another enemy of the same type, just because the chance of hitting wasn't 100% and one of them avoided it. It's pretty well balanced, actually. When an enemy is 100% susceptible to a spell (say, a fire monster getting hit by ice), not only is it guaranteed to always hit, it also does a lot more damage. The
spell damage is also kind of random and determined by percentages. When it hits an enemy, the amount of damage you do is determined by their percentage of resistance to that spell. So you can theoretically do max damage to a monster with a spell they are resistant to, it's just unlikely (25% chance). Resistances and weaknesses in DQ are not like "X takes less damage from Y" or "X takes more damage from Y". It's all about percentages. Being resistant or weak to a spell only determines the chance of being hit by it and the chance of receiving more or less damage. But anything can theoretically happen, as long as it's not 100% or 0%.

[Anonymous No.5604914]

I just got fucked by the infinite tunnel

[Anonymous No.5605505]

>>5604860
Dilate.

[ha(d)zuki No.5605537]

about to finish 6
which should i play next?
>>5604559
>>5604879
*fails to vivify 9 times in a row*

[Anonymous No.5607024]

>>5605537
At that point you gotta break out the classics.
"Then stay dead you stupid faggot!"

[Anonymous No.5607037]

>>5605537
Play 4 on NES, it takes place several thousand years after 6.

[Anonymous No.5607148]

what's the best version/translation of DQ3 and DQ5 and DQ7?

[Anonymous No.5607193]

>>5607148
DQ3 - official NES translation.

DQ5 - Dejap Super Famicom fan translation

DQ7 - Official PS1 translation

[Anonymous No.5607194]

>>5607193
Thank you sir.

[Anonymous No.5607217]

>>5607194
You're welcome.

Check out the SNES remake of 3 and the PS2 remake of 5 at some point, they are also great but change some things for better or for worse..

[Anonymous No.5607301]

>>5607194
>accepting the first response you're given
Play a little bit of the different versions yourself and make your own judgement calls retard.

[Anonymous No.5607312]

Tell me what you think about this

DQ3 is great for a few reasons and only borders on average at worst

It's fairly challenging but dying is not a huge punishment like in final fantasy where you just get kicked out of the game. You can start over immediately and keep all your gained items and expierience. Ex. I killed Orochi 1 then died on Orochi 2 but i got to keep Orochi sword and only had to kill orochi 2.

You can't really make OP characters

Gold is tight early on which adds to the challenge and you have to decide what items to buy and leave behind

Mana is a precious resource and you can't stock 99 ethers to continue forever, multiple trips to a dungeon first to loot then to run to the boss sometimes makes sense

Exploration is good, day/night system is great, remember-text mechanic is really great

Multiple Animated battle sprites on every monster before Pokemon did it

Good music although it gets re-used a lot

Cat suit

[Anonymous No.5607471]

>>5607312

(cont)

desu there are a few annoying bits of the game but it's ok

like spells not auto-targeting if the enemy dies like melee attacks can auto-target after an enemy dies

RobMagic barely working

music delay when board ship

Canibox hitting for 90 dmg the first time you see it

[Anonymous No.5607481]

>Soo indian village is on the north american continent
>NPCs there speak with stereotypical accent
>settler village on eastern coast of NA continent

wow

[Anonymous No.5607491]

>>5607481
I don't recall them using any accent.

[Anonymous No.5607492]

>>5605505
Edriophthalmous

[Anonymous No.5607495]

>>5607491

oh maybe not in the real script, but the snes translation has hao-pow indian speak

[Anonymous No.5607638]

Should I level a jester?
I know they become a sage for free but i already have a sage. I read somewhere that a jester>dealer is a good idea for item farming

[Anonymous No.5607674]

>>5601080
>best DQ game
DQ7.
3DS version for minimum bs.

[Anonymous No.5607678]

>>5607638
Why do you want to farm items?

[Anonymous No.5607685]

>>5607678

idk is there rare equipment?

[Anonymous No.5607690]

>>5607685
Yes, but you can live without it.

[Anonymous No.5607827]

I'm at Barabos Castle what weapons are good and where to get them?

I have thunder sword demon axe zombie killer and power knuckle right now

[Anonymous No.5607938]

>>5607827
yeah

[Anonymous No.5607953]

>>5607312
Can I ask you your age?

[Anonymous No.5607957]

>>5607953

I'm 5 years old

[Anonymous No.5607994]

>>5607827
Good luck, that guy is a complete bastard.

[Anonymous No.5608025]

>>5607994

I beat him but only after I got HealAll on my Hero and Sage, and because i got lucky with no confuses/disperses

I'm not sure that was good boss design but it felt epic anyway

[Anonymous No.5608031]

>>5608025
I'm pretty sure he can be shut down with some status spell he's weak to, but I don't remember which. He's one of the hardest bosses in the game considering the level you fight him at.

[Anonymous No.5608047]

[Anonymous No.5608051]

HUGE DW7 SPOILERS

>Soldier of God: We can't let unknown people enter this room. State your names.
>Gabo: I'm Gabo. She is Aira, and that guy is Arus.
>Soldier of God: Oh, I see. But are those really your names? (Yes/No)
>Hero: No.
>Gabo: Son of a bitch, Arus! I was telling the truth!
LMAO. This is probably the most hilarious part of the game. Gabo was kind enough to state our names for us and I made him look like a liar in front of the soldiers of God.

Saying "no" to questions in RPGs is usually a waste of time, but DW7 has lots of hilarious lines. I love messing with people in this game.

[Anonymous No.5608053]

>>5608025
Alot of DQ bosses become manageable the moment you level a specific character to learn a needed skill. Usually a new tier of healing to outdo the DPS check the boss is.
Personally, I love all the little DQ moments all the games have.

[Anonymous No.5608063]

>>5608051
Party chat and moments like it add so much to simple jrpgs.
If I were to make an rpg I would make the dialogue and talking options an actual marketed selling point. It really does flesh these games out.

[Anonymous No.5608071]

>>5608063
Party chat is a waste of time. I'm not interested in every stupid thing characters have to say.

[Anonymous No.5608074]

>>5608047
Is this the only reason they let you do something as bizarre as renaming your bag?

[Anonymous No.5608160]

>>5608031

i just assume no status will ever work on any boss in an rpg

[Anonymous No.5608782]

>>5608160
That's a shity FF trope that somehow made its way into every clone RPG series. Just like the "die and go back to your last save as if the enemy that killed you literally pulled the plug on the console" bullshit.

[Anonymous No.5608786]

>>5608071
Party chat is tacked on in the awful DS remakes, but it's an integral part of the experience in DQ7. It's well written and often the NPC dialogue feels incomplete if you don't use it.

[Anonymous No.5609891]

[Anonymous No.5610484]

>>5608782

Yeah I'm really happy with DQ's death system

You can even put your money in a bank so you don't actually lose anything beside the resurrection cost

>>5609891

how do you kill these things easy?

[Anonymous No.5610603]

>>5608782
Get good and don't die.

[Anonymous No.5610606]

>>5608782
What do you think of Wizardry's system?
Pull the plug before your party is wiped out and restart from your last position.

[Anonymous No.5613283]

>>5601080
My dudes I'm a avid collector should I get Dragon Warrior VII for 15$ the only problem it doesn't come with manual booklet so I'm a bit conflicted whether should I get it not

[Anonymous No.5613585]

I'm in Alefgard uncovered the whole map, kinda getting tired of the game, which DQ should I try next

[Anonymous No.5613679]

[Anonymous No.5614457]

>>5613585
None so you can stop these shitty blogposting threads.