/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5595929]

What's the rarest/least known retro computer you own? Pic related is mine. I have an Amiga 4000 too but you hear people talking about that all the time. This is a niche of a niche here that lasted less than a year.

[Nicollet Avenue Kmart !0J4ewmjU/I No.5595937]

>>5595929
I have one of these, not my pic.

[Anonymous No.5595976]

>>5595937
>Compaq Portable
>rare or obscure machine
...

[Anonymous No.5595985]

>>5595976
Posts yours ;^)

[Anonymous No.5595989]

>>5595929
x68000 XVI

[Anonymous No.5595992]

>>5595989
pc9801ux with 486 upgrade

[Anonymous No.5595993]

>>5595929
Got rid of my childhood Atari 600XL a few years back. It was much less common than the popular earlier 400 and 800.

[Anonymous No.5595994]

>>5595992
pc88 ma2

[Anonymous No.5595995]

>>5595994
epson pc98 compatible laptop

[Anonymous No.5595998]

>>5595995
sharp mz80k

[Anonymous No.5596003]

>>5595992
>>5595989
>>5595994
>>5595995
>>5595998
This shit is sexy as hell, Anon. Are you in Japan or just obsessed with their computers?

[Anonymous No.5596006]

>>5595998
sony msx2 f1xdj

[Anonymous No.5596007]

>>5596003
I live in japan desu

[Anonymous No.5596012]

>>5596007
pc9821cs2

[Anonymous No.5596015]

i found this Mattel Aquarius at a thrift shop the other day for 4 bux. pretty nothin-to-write-home-about "4 kilobytes and a z80" color computer from 1983; it was discontinued at approximately the same instant it first hit store shelves. this one's missing its cartridge slot cover unfortunately, but it works okay.

>>5595995
sick

[Anonymous No.5596049]

>>5596012
snatcher for the 88

[Anonymous No.5596052]

Yamaha CX5M

[Anonymous No.5596057]

>>5596049
another sony msx2

[Anonymous No.5596058]

>>5596015
You can get a flash cart for this, but I'm not sure if the guy on AtariAge is still selling them.

[Anonymous No.5596059]

>>5596057
Shit, I have a shitty Sony MSX2 but never managed to get a flash cart. Is the one you have in >>5596006 good?

[Anonymous No.5596060]

>>5596052
sexy machine, kinda want one desu

[Anonymous No.5596062]

>>5596059
it's the best cart for msx, there are other cheaper ways to play SCC games from sd card but they require gimping a cheap SCC game.

[Anonymous No.5596065]

>>5596062
Which version do I get, Anon? Also, where do you find these in Japan? Is it just Yahoo auctions?

[Anonymous No.5596069]

>>5596007
Hook me up with a Famicom, anon.

[Anonymous No.5596072]

>>5596062
ok i'm done dumping

[Anonymous No.5596078]

>>5596065
https://www.msxcartridgeshop.com/ get the megaflashram scc+. as for where I find shit, it's a mix of BEEP shop, hardoff and YAJ.

[Anonymous No.5596079]

>>5596072
What even is that controller?

[Anonymous No.5596081]

>>5596069
protip: try buyee.jp

[Anonymous No.5596084]

>>5596079
sharp cyber stick for x68000, megadrive and pc engine

[Anonymous No.5596087]

why the fuck are all of the pictures sideways

[Anonymous No.5596091]

>>5596087
Boomers

[Anonymous No.5596093]

>>5596072
Any x68000, msx or pc98 games you recommend anon
I enjoyed night slave and kotsujin on an emulator as a kid but now I really want to know more about the libraries, those games by zoom and kogado just look so fucking cool

[Anonymous No.5596102]

>>5596093
anything from dempa, capcom or konami for the x68000, pc98 games that are worth playing? about 5 come to mind lol. rude breaker, flame zapper, rusty, 46 okunen, policenauts... the tohou stuff is ok I guess.

[Anonymous No.5596105]

>>5596087
rotation data getting ignored.

[Anonymous No.5596107]

>>5596093
as for msx, konami was a fucking powerhouse.

[Anonymous No.5596109]

>>5596078
>https://www.msxcartridgeshop.com/
Do I need the extra RAM?

[Anonymous No.5596110]

>>5596093
falcom ported their games to the 98 but generally speaking they are so much better on the 88

[Anonymous No.5596113]

>>5596109
msx always needs more ram anon

[Funcoland Clown No.5596115]

Well I have several TI-99/4As because for god only knows what reason that was what my dad got me during the 80s so I'm sentimental about them.

[Anonymous No.5596116]

>>5596110
popful mail for instance, supports OPNA on the 88, OPN on the 98. there's a reason Yuzo Koshiro still uses his pc88 to compose music.

[Anonymous No.5596127]

>>5596115
Those aren't rare, but they're fun.

[Anonymous No.5596130]

>>5596116
Computer anon, do you have anything more to show for your MZ80? The late 80s stuff is so well documented but you rarely see stuff like this.

[Anonymous No.5596142]

>>5596130
dankey kang

[Anonymous No.5596145]

>>5596142
heres one i found in a shop

[Anonymous No.5596148]

>>5596145
pasocon display at beep shop

[Anonymous No.5596152]

>>5596148
here's one in a recycle shop

[Anonymous No.5596154]

>>5596152
mz2000

[Anonymous No.5596157]

>>5596154
woops that's an mz80b and this is the 2000

[Anonymous No.5596161]

>>5596157
fujitsu fm7

[Anonymous No.5596170]

>>5596015
It was ridiculed as "1978's computer in 1983".

[Anonymous No.5596175]

>>5596015
The Aquarius would have been a huge hit in Eastern Europe. America...not so much.

[Anonymous No.5596176]

>>5596003
ay dude riddle me this:

is it ez to get that shit over there because ppl dont give a fuk about retro as much as we do? or is it something else?

[Anonymous No.5596179]

>>5596015
i heard the build quality on this was inferior to peers from that time. what can you say about that?

[Anonymous No.5596180]

[Anonymous No.5596183]

>>5596176
for the most part, used things in japan have little to no value. people don't buy used and there's no room to crowd up your house with old junk.

[Anonymous No.5596184]

[Anonymous No.5596192]

>>5596184
Poor Epyx died because they became too dependent on C64 sales and didn't have adequate plans for life after the C64. They resisted producing games for Nintendo or Sega as EA did because they wanted complete control and to that end launched a failed project to develop a handheld game system that ended up sinking the company.

[Anonymous No.5596197]

>>5596183
yea i get that feeling from the way they word their used listings online haha.

as a western demon i cannot read japanese, do you think i should get a pc engine or a saturn? i do not own any imported consoles and would like to have at least one.

[Anonymous No.5596201]

>>5596192
what about the epyx handy

[Anonymous No.5596206]

>>5596197
pc engine is fucking expensive to collect for, saturn is dirt cheap. my vote is for the saturn, especially now with pseudo saturn it's never been easier to play backups.

[Anonymous No.5596208]

>>5596197
plus the saturns are built like tanks, very reliable

[Anonymous No.5596210]

>>5596197
the pc engine CD consoles are really unreliable, bad caps, broken gears, failed lasers, they all need work.

[Anonymous No.5596213]

>>5596210
not really worth the cost in my opinion

[Anonymous No.5596217]

>>5596208
>>5596210

saturn it is then. desu i think there are probably more games that interest me on saturn anyways. thanks dude.

btw is that msx goemon game any different than the nintendo version?

[Anonymous No.5596234]

>>5596217
>btw is that msx goemon game any different than the nintendo version?

it's similar enough that it may be the exact same as the famicom game

[Anonymous No.5596245]

>>5596142
>>5596145
>>5596148
>>5596152
>>5596154
>>5596157
Based. Thanks, Anon.

[Anonymous No.5596870]

>>5596179
eh, i'd say it's about average for a cheap early-eighties machine. Plastic appears to be something other than ABS; feels a little on the flexible side but not too creaky. Keyboard's rubber, a bit less mushy than the ZX spectrum's, although still worse to use since the keys are just a bit too closely spaced to be comfortable.

>>5596170
>"1978's computer in 1983"
haha that's fair

[Anonymous No.5596930]

GAMATE

[Anonymous No.5596954]

>>5596180
That desk and Monitor seem kind of shit for that setup. I know that's not a bad monitor... but it just isn't a good fit for the Atari 8bit.

[Anonymous No.5596962]

I have a Tandy 1000 HX. Not my pic. I have two of them. One's in great shape and the other looks like it was left outside but it still works. I have them hooked up to a Magnavox CGA Monitor. The one's who's specs are just like the Commodore monitor that everyone wants and whose dot pitch matches the CM-11.

[Anonymous No.5596973]

>>5596962
I also have this Leading Edge IBM PC Clone. Also pic isn't mine. I haven't got it tested yet, and it needs a new Floppy drive, but the original MDA hard drive is still in it. I think they're called MDA... they're certainly not IDE.

[Anonymous No.5596992]

>>5596973
I got this Compaq Prolinea 4/66. I really like it because it comes with an onboard VLB Tseng VGA Chipset. In fact it's the only Tseng Video Chipset anything I have.

[Anonymous No.5596996]

>>5596992
This was my first 486 that I bought for collecting purposes. I really like it, everything works great on it and it came with a really nice Sound Blaster.

[Anonymous No.5597007]

>>5596996
I do have an Atari 1200XL. I've cleaned it up, but I've never powered it on. I've used my 800XL quite a bit and I also have a 600XL.

[Anonymous No.5597012]

>>5597007
This one probably is my Rarest. At least for here in the States. I have a UK Atari 1040 STE that takes the really old and weird ram that has the Pins. Mine came with adapters for socketed ram but you still have to jam the adapters into the pin sockets.

If you want a pic of my actual machine let me know I could try and get some off of my phone that I took.

[Anonymous No.5597036]

>>5596060
Whoa. BeeCards! Also, you’ve got like $500 dollars of Konami shooters too.

[Anonymous No.5597110]

>>5596954
That's a very common looking setup, including the period desk with overly compartmentalized hutch. I saw many such arrangements in computer/office furniture catalogs in the '80s, and owned a similar desk for my computer setup back then. Overall that pic is an accurate snapshot of the time.

>>5596992
I still have a couple Tseng ET6000s I used as fast little test cards. Up until a few years ago, I think there was a company that would buy Tseng Labs cards from individuals to refurbish old ATMs, but anyone into old DOS games would never give them up to be used for that.

>>5597007
I'm also the guy who mentioned getting rid of my 600XL earlier. I'd told my parents that the 1200XL was the system I really wanted for Chirstmas, but they got me the 600XL and a BMX bike instead, and I think that was a way better deal for them and for me.

[Anonymous No.5597132]

>>5597036
Yeah msx games are fucking expensive desu

[Anonymous No.5597174]

>>5597110
I don't know... All ever saw growing up was Art Metal desks and hand made compartment shelving.

>Art Metal is an old brand that made Atomic Age furniture. I think we have four of them on our property, maybe five.

[Anonymous No.5597246]

>>5597174
It was definitely a look. Ignore the stupid layout of components in the pic, furniture companies really wanted to make sure you'd buy more than just a single wide open table.

[Anonymous No.5598352]

Holy fuck, I literally just picked this up at a thrift store for $15. No power cord anyone here know anything about this? It says the power requirements at the bottom, 100 W, 90 cycle, ac or dc. It's a three prong plug I've never seen before.

[Anonymous No.5598360]

>>5598352
wow anon how the fuck is that even relevant to retro video games

[Anonymous No.5598381]

What's the easiest way to buy a complete PC98 setup?

[Anonymous No.5598461]

>>5598381
it would take a whole book to explain that to you, basically it depends on what you want to use it for since the 98 was made for like 25 years. also this is what $5 gets you at 7-11 in japan.

[Anonymous No.5598482]

>>5598461
sounds like a keyboard paradise

[Anonymous No.5598519]

>>5598461
Just games. I don't know anything about PC98... do they use a Japanese version of DOS?

[Anonymous No.5598558]

>>5596084
Very nice

[Anonymous No.5598568]

Since this thread has tons of Japanese computers, I need to wonder just what happened to Japanese PC developers. It seems like they were everywhere and developed games for every computer format when there were dozens, but once Windows (or even DOS) came around to standardize the platform, they just quit altogether. Did the Japanese just hate Windows or was it just a coincidence and they all jumped to consoles (much like how western PC developers did, but to a much lesser extent)?

[Anonymous No.5598597]

>>5598568
I mean Anon, PC developers in the US had a really hard time basically from the time the PS1 came out to the popularity of Steam, despite some quality releases it very much was not the place to be.

[Anonymous No.5598621]

>>5598568
>standardize "the platform"
That's like saying all home computers are "the platform" instead of each different type. And it's part of the problem. Each different architecture had pretty specific standard parts that devs could expect all users to have, including specialized video and sound hardware, accessory inputs with (sometimes) standardized controller layouts, etc. Much like consoles. As those faded away, the wide open PC clone spec allowed for many different standards that devs could no longer expect 100% of users to have. Instead there was now a wide range of CPU speeds, evolving display standards, multiple sound card standards, no standard controller, etc.

[Anonymous No.5598631]

>>5598621
(cont.)
And we're talking about DOS here, as Windows gaming was very small before Windows 95. So drivers for all these different components were a pain for users and developers alike. There was no DirectX, they had to code for all these competing hardware standards directly.

[Anonymous No.5598643]

Some really nice things in this thread. I feel unworthy posting my dinky 486 laptop, but here it is. Not my pic, but it is the oldest one I own at the moment.

A Compaq Contura 410C
Intel 486 DX2 50mhz
8mb ram
350mb hard drive

It's a nice little Dos machine from the mid 90s. Not going to run anything spectacular, but Wolf3D, Sim City and similar games work well enough.

[Anonymous No.5598729]

>>5598568
A large number are doujin titles, so many PC games only exist through Comiket.
The usual platforms the Nips sell PC games through are Toranoana, Digiket, DLsite, DMM/Fanza, Getchu & Gyutto.
There's at least 5x the number of Japanese Windows games compared to PC98. They just:
A. Don't like Westerners
B. Can't find translators
C. Don't care to put in the effort
D. Think Steam is shit (fact: it is)
The other thing is that either Westerners don't care to look or that """preservationists""" are biased mongrels that won't touch PC games "cuz it's too hard & costs too much money".
Check vndb.org (Visual Novel Database). There's an "action" tag to separate the titty games with actual gameplay.
General freeware sites with some sold products are vector.co.jp, freem.ne.jp and freegame-mugen.jp (elog.tokyo is their NSFW version).

[Anonymous No.5599059]

I have one of these
Any idea what it’s worth?

[Anonymous No.5599079]

>>5598519
The PC-98 series does run MS-DOS. A few text mode PC programs can even run on the machine, but the differences in hardware will cause issues for anything beyond that (like, screen memory is in the wrong place for starters).

[Anonymous No.5599528]

>>5597246
Christ that looks awful.

[Anonymous No.5600280]

>>5599059
Literally worthless

[Anonymous No.5600449]

>>5599059
I'm sure someone would pay twenty bucks for it. It's place in history is almost nonexistent.

[Anonymous No.5601316]

>>5599059
They're actually worth no more than $20, you can get pristine CIB ones for $40-50. Unlike what >>5600449 says, the Sinclair ZX-81 (and it's American Timex counterpart) does have a place in computer history, but that doesn't make it valuable.

[Anonymous No.5601495]

>>5600280
>>5600449
>>5601316

[Anonymous No.5601634]

>>5601495

[Anonymous No.5601810]

>>5598729
I remember a few years ago that some 2d platformer doujin game (I forget what it was, I think it was the one where the "holy crackers" meme is from) sold reasonably well on steam once some random translators approached the developers and offered to sell the game via steam. Apparently the developers were thrilled at the prospect and gave them the go ahead. Looking at Japanese PC games can be really interesting, a lot of early ones weren't ported by the Japanese themselves, usually by a western company (eg westwood for Resident Evil), and this continues to be the case even today, but the Japanese do seem to make their own ports from time to time. It just seems like they tend to target Japanese spec PCs and not western ones, since the Japs are more likely to use low power work computers than high output gaming systems, hence the random FPS and resolution locks.

[Anonymous No.5602360]

>>5601316
And exactly where is that place in computer history is the >Timex, hmm?

[Anonymous No.5602372]

>>5595929
Had 3 Cubase Atari Falcon machines.

[Anonymous No.5602404]

>>5602372
Three Falcons... Sheeze.

[Anonymous No.5603184]

>>5602360
First computer under $100 or whatever, same place in history that the ZX-81 has. It's not a huge thing, but it has a place.

[Anonymous No.5603647]

>>5602360
Exactly the same place as the britfag version that's exactly the same except a little shittier.

[Anonymous No.5603827]

>>5595937
holy shit, a compaq. nobody knows about compaq.
>>5596217
There are tons of amazing Saturn games, you'll love it. People say PCE is the king of shooters... it has a lot of them, but I found them all pretty boring. None were half as good as Dodonpachi or Battle Garegga.

[Anonymous No.5605140]

Пpaвeц 8Д

[Anonymous No.5608282]

>>5596087
Maybe he lives on Uranus.

[Anonymous No.5610184]

>>5596058
I bought one from him about five or six months ago.