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Does /vr/ play PC-98 games?

>> No.5584348
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5584348

>>5584310
Yeah.

>> No.5584361
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5584361

TOUHOU THREAD?

>> No.5584364

>>5584310
99% of them are all in Jap, so... no.

>> No.5584457

only the porn ones

>> No.5584501

>>5584310
You don't play PC-98 games. You fap to them.

>> No.5584727
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>>5584310
my retro pc98 waifu

>> No.5584734

I've been meaning to play the PC-98 version of Brandish, the soundtrack is sick as hell.

>> No.5584780
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>>5584310
Damn look at all that DETAIL. wtf japan got lazy as fuck after 2000.

>> No.5584819
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5584819

>bought the Windows version of a PC98 game
I feel so... naughty...

>> No.5584829

I tried the first couple Touhou games. They were fun.

>> No.5584837

I only play the non-porn ones because I'm not a horny teenager.

>> No.5585006

>>5584819
Because of the poor sound or did they also mess up the colors and resolution?

>> No.5585012

>>5584310
No, I just listen to their soundtracks and whack off to their dithered anime girls

>> No.5585016

>>5584819
HOLY SHIT
it's windows version of lakers
upload it please to sukebei nyaa

>> No.5585052

>>5584829
Only 4 is particularly good. 1 and 2 are unpleasantly primitive and the backgrounds in 5 blend with the bullets.

>> No.5585054

>>5585052
>1 and 2 are unpleasantly primitive
Breakout > shmups

>> No.5585056

Shit sucks. Not worth the hassle. Just search the Pc98 tag on sadpanda and stare at the pretty pictures, the story in them is always harem shit and always guaranteed to suck.

>> No.5585062

>>5585054
Then play a proper breakout like Gunbarich, Puchicharat, Visco Blocken

>> No.5585073
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5585073

Why aren't you playing Toushin Toshi II right now /vr/?

>> No.5585202

>>5585016
It's only the first two games, mind you.

>> No.5585241

>>5585202
i'm ok with that.
torrents or mega links.

>> No.5585810

Doubt it. Too many EOPs and DJT EOPs all around. The pool of games most people can play is limited, I guess there's some good games in it like TT2 >>5585073 though.

>> No.5585832

>>5584310
Love the aesthetics, but 99% is garbage

>> No.5585915
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>>5585832
This unfortunately seems to be the real answer unless I just been unfortunate enough to just stumble upon the handful of bad ones. Yu-No so far has been the only good one I've "played" and to be fair it really is quite good. I'm sure there are other ones out there but I've been quite unfortunate in my pursuits.
The action games are quite mediocre and the system isn't powerful enough to run them at a decent framerate.
It is quite interesting exploring the library however, as you'll be surprised by the amount of great looking games that are basically unknown to most people, but from anything close to objective standards there's very few games that are anything good other than the aesthetics and music. But let me just be clear here, the visuals and music is often god fucking tier.
99% of the VNs just seem to be very sloppy nukige with storylines with a depth of a kiddy's pool. Only in the late 90s and early 00s did they started taking the genre more seriously.
But again it's still interesting to explore the library just for the sake of it

>> No.5585931

>>5585832
I have to agree with this. I'v played a couple of stylish dragon quest clones, a handful of VNs and tried out a few action games and was dissapointed for the most part. That said there are some great games I just have a hard time finding them.

>> No.5586323

>>5585915
>the system isn't powerful enough to run them at a decent framerate
maybe on original hardware? that still seems like an issue with the games themselves, not the system.
if you're emulating, that sounds like a config issue. i can run toho 3-5 at a consistent 56.4hz with only occasional drops in chiyuri fights (when the sprite limit is frequently being reached).

>> No.5586336

>>5585241
I'll see what I can do after work.

>> No.5586417

>>5586323
PC-98 games are choppy and unresponsive because there is no hardware support for scrolling.

Touhou games are incredibly late releases with very simplistic graphics.

>> No.5586421

>>5585073
it's racist toward yankee

>> No.5586457

>>5586421
Good

>> No.5586483

>>5586336
thanks. you work on weekend?

>> No.5586796

>>5586417
really? the 7220 data sheet says it can handle panning, and the vx model added the ecg blitter.
regardless, at least the later models could handle scrolling. at that point, it would have been the game devs trading playability for graphics (or not knowing any better). before then, if scrolling was an issue, then maybe it made sense to say fuck it to playability and focus on graphics. that would be fair to pin on the machine, at least to an extent.

>> No.5587316

>>5586796
It's "capable" of scrolling in the same way the SNES is "capable" of 3D, that is to say like a choppy laggy piece of shit struggling to barely reach 12 fps

>> No.5587378

>>5586796
It can do scrolling graphics the same way an IBM PC can, in software, with results dependent on the skill of the programmer but with a very low ceiling compared to consoles designed to display scrolling graphics such as the Sega Genesis or Super Nintendo. The best PC sidescrollers look like your average Turbo Grafx game, with only 1 background layer and not much going on. Touhou is the same way in that sense, they are games released in 1997 and 8 that look like games from 1984.

>> No.5587385

>>5587378
As an example. Sonic CD on Windows 95 ran at 30 fps. It ran at 60(with slowdown and drops to 55, due to being programmed by the B-Team while the A team worked on Sonic) on Sega CD.

PC98 was not nearly as capable as your average Windows 95 machine.

>> No.5587463

>>5587385
Well yeah, EGC was introduced in 1986, of course it wasn't as capable as the 2D/3D accelerators a decade later.

>> No.5587474

>>5584310
I don’t know enough kanji yet so no.

>> No.5588294

>>5586421
example?

>> No.5588378
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5588378

>>5586483
Things got in the way of an upload tonight-- will try for one tomorrow. I want to include everything in the upload, including scans of the paperwork.

>> No.5588438

I've only tried playing the old Touhou games. I do like the aesthetic of the system quite a lot.

>> No.5588467

>>5584780
Whenever people act like detail = quality I remind them that ken penders exists

>> No.5588469

>>5584819
The pc98 could run windows so it's fine

>> No.5588485
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5588485

>>5588469
yo dawg i heard you like emulators.
so i run emulator in emulator so you can emulate while you emulate.

>> No.5588495

>>5587385
The main issue with the pc98 was that it had to draw 16 color planar graphics at a 640 x 400 resolution with no hardware sprites, scrolling, or blitter. The graphics chip was capable, but not capable enough for what NEC was making it output

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5588537

>>5588294

>> No.5588568

>>5584310
Whats the best pc98 emulator?

>> No.5588843

>>5588467
Perhaps, but there's something to be also said for the way PC98 graphics could reduce such beautiful and fully realized illustrations down to 16 colors at most. OP's pic never feels like it uses such a meager amount of hues due to smart layouts.

>> No.5589014

>>5588568
>best
don't know.
but neko project is easier to setup than anex.

>> No.5589067

It's quite depressing how much PC-98 software is lost forever. Imagine tracking down some obscure game sold on floppy disks 30 years ago in limited amount at Comiket. If Touhou didn't get so big you'd never see it dumped.

The current dumps are pretty shitty too, instead of untouched floppy disks which let you install games normally you have hacked ones that just execute the game or HDD images with MS-DOS preinstalled.

>> No.5589079

>>5589067
It's a question of convenience over preservation.

>> No.5589117

>>5589014
Really? Ive used anex for years and its piss easy to use

>> No.5589118

>>5589067
The only dumps of touhou and madou monogatari i was able to find were .hdd files

>> No.5589121
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>>5588537
Based

>> No.5589126

>>5586421
yankee is a race?

wow must be that yankee education

>> No.5589127

>>5589067
Neo Kobe contains mostly untouched versions of games, with the added bonus of pre-installed hard disk images also included. Grab that if you care about not having the shitty hacked versions.

>> No.5589315

>>5588485
Is it playable? I remember running Anex on my old Pentium 133 was very choppy.

>> No.5589351

>>5589117
i tried installing both about 10 years ago. and i couldn't run anex. then i switched to neko project and it ran. guess i'm too stupid for running anex.

>> No.5589367

>>5589117
>>5589351
anex is the zsnes of pc98 emulation
very easy to use but you should be on neko

>> No.5589368

>>5588843
It's more that as a professional illustrator, the idea that simply having more detail means more quality pisses me off. It's not about the quantity of details, it's about how much effort was put into each individual detail and how they contribute to the bigger picture

>> No.5589370

>>5589367
>anex is the zsnes of pc98 emulation
zsnes' development is dead.
is anex's development dead too?

>> No.5589376

>>5589370
Since 2005.

>> No.5589434

>>5589376
i made a right choice when i choose neko.

>> No.5589454

>>5589368
Ah, that sentiment is sadly one that not enough people see. Fight the good fight, my brother.

>> No.5590508

>>5586421
>>5588537
>>5589126
yankee/yanki is delinquent in japanese, not american.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yanki

>> No.5590524

>>5590508
Finally a non-retarded post

>> No.5590657
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5590657

>>5590524
i know yankee/yanki from this manga.
yandere kanojo.
yandere = yanki-dere, not that yandere

>> No.5590660

>>5590508
yeah, but the joke is that this monster is often connected with american flags

>> No.5590662

>>5590660
or with other american symbols, like in this CG: https://e-hentai.org/s/ad5fb7d2db/475987-581 (nsfw)

>> No.5590703

>>5584310
Nope. But I like looking at the sprites

>> No.5591434
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5591434

Sorry for the huge delay, I finally have it all set (I think). One rar file containing a folder with all the game data as directly copied from the disc, and all the misc paperwork included. Here's one download link for Sei Shoujo Sentai Lakers 1 and 2, Windows version.

https://mega.nz/#!RHxkXSSD!-TG0bzhRQNvtM0BozDwsOmZOslk0czbaizjqsTOEqxU

>> No.5591547

>>5591434
many thanks, anon.
i love lakers series.

>> No.5591856

>>5590662
now i remember.
i played rance 6.

>> No.5591860

>>5591547
I hope you enjoy it. I can't read any of it.

>> No.5591915

>>5591434
Good old WinG acceleration. Well, runs flawlessly on my ancient Win95 box. Thank you anon.

>> No.5591959

>>5591860
i wish i could find windows lakers 3.
i played chinese ripped msdos version of lakers 3.
no music, no cutscene videos (if it had it).
the only video available is when the girls changes into the lakers form. i think you can see natsune's bouncing oppai.

>> No.5592046

>>5591434
You should make an iso instead of copying the files.

>> No.5592109

>>5592046
good idea.
it could have cd audio too.
you lose the cd audio if you copy only the files.

>> No.5592136

>>5591434
sorry to bother you once more, but could you please upload the iso?
for preservation of eroge.
thanks.

>> No.5592170

>>5592046
>>5592109
If it has CD audio, you need to use bin+cue, not iso.

>> No.5592187

I can't read japanase.

>> No.5592260

>>5592170
yes, you're right.

>> No.5592291

>>5592109
>>5592170
It's .midi

>> No.5592332

>>5592291
have you tried inserting the cd in a cd player?
does it have no audio tracks?

>> No.5592594

>>5589067
what the fuck are you talking about? it's the same data just with added files. you can literally open the file up and delete shit and then have fun with your 30 minute installation autism

>> No.5594276

>>5592332
No audio tracks, all sound files are midi for music and wav for everything else.

>> No.5594305

>>5594276
this

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5594337

>>5591434
Thanks

>> No.5595197

>>5584310

I played the fan translated Farland Story 6: God's Legacy. It was too damn hard so I quit.
https://www.uvlist.net/game-157325-Farland+Story+6

>> No.5596750

>>5595197
do you play Farland Saga series too?

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>> No.5597482

>>5584310
No only ninty ones

>> No.5597505
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5597505

I never been into vns or princess maker type games, but I like the art.

>> No.5597526
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5597526

HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN !!

>> No.5599551

>>5597526
I finished your game

>> No.5599552

>>5597526
someone pls upload lakers 3 windows version

>> No.5599602
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5599602

>>5584501
You can play this one

>> No.5599646

>>5599552
One day.

>> No.5599916
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>>5591434
YES! YES! YES!

>> No.5600331
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5600331

>>5597505
How about RPGs?

>> No.5601358

>>5599646
come one
pretty please

>> No.5601428

>>5596750
Nope. The difficulty put me off.

>> No.5602256

>>5601428
too easy or too hard?

>> No.5602832

>>5600331
Hentai JRPG = JRPG++

>> No.5604041

>>5597505
>princess maker
not playing prince maker

>> No.5604539

>>5585073
>Wanna fuck Sneed?

>> No.5604560

>>5602256
Not him, but the games are originaly easy, so the translator kicked the difficulty up. A lot. Making the English versions very hard.

>> No.5604563

>>5604560
English version?
This is Farland Saga, not Farland Story.
I never heard of FS English.

>> No.5604572

Too much japanese stuff. The only thing I could enjoy was Rusty.

>> No.5604592

Alright bros hit me with some ESSENTIAL VR PC98 games for a homie that cant speak jap. I love this style and I am on Princess Maker 24/7

Please give me more dope PC98 games to play!!

>> No.5604597

>>5590508
Show calls Todd a yankee and Todd calls Show a Jap in Dunbine. Pretty sure it really was an 80's slur

>> No.5604782

>>5604592
The problem is that you don't know Japanese.

>> No.5605205

>>5604592
Yu-no

>> No.5605556

>>5604592
Translated by Megatech:
Cobra Mission
Metal & Lace
Knights of Xentar
Power Doll

>> No.5605610

>>5604592
Revival Xanadu
Wizardry 1-4

>> No.5606726

VNs are not games, there's nothing to "play"

>> No.5607181

>>5606726
How many have you played that you are such an expert on them?

>> No.5607285
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5607285

>>5606726
Read-em-ups are games

>> No.5607854

>>5607285
this game ripped off many anime girls.
how did it get away?

>> No.5608504
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5608504

>> No.5609807

>>5607181
>"played"

>> No.5609841

>>5604560
>>5604563
Yes, I clearly stated it was Farland Saga 6. Too damn hard and "puzzle-like". One wrong move and you fail the mission objective...

>> No.5609847

>>5609841
Sorry. Farland STORY 6. Difficulty didn't give me high hopes for other games in the series.

>> No.5610209

>>5609841
>>5609847
i remember playing english version of fs6. i didn't finish it, but i don't remember it that hard. i did some reload though because of the mission objectives. don't forget to grind.

>> No.5610249

>>5588378
>including scans of the paperwork.
Based, thanks for going the extra mile

>> No.5610762
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5610762

>>5607285
Underrated post

>> No.5610772

>>5610762
Why Chinese?

>> No.5610850

>>5610772
Not him.
Localized. Usually a Taiwan company called Tanton or something. I played lots of those games, including this one >>5608504.

>> No.5611123

>>5610850
Were they censored in any way?

>> No.5611205

>>5611123
same as the japanese version.
the lakers series (shared above) i played were chinese too.

>> No.5611796
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5611796

Anyone play this one?
I played the DOS Chinese version, and it was hard.
Need lots of grinding or the bosses will 2-3 hits KO you.

>> No.5611801

>>5611796
It's a TGL game too, like Farland Saga and Farland Story.

>> No.5612376

>>5611796
translation:
https://github.com/46OkuMen/appareden
info:
https://www.mobygames.com/game/appare-den-fukury-no-sh

>> No.5612649

>>5585832
To be fair that can be said of almost any medium.
With contemporary stuff, or at least things you know the background of, it's easy to find "the good stuff" because even those that are described as "hidden gems" are good enough to earn that title, and are famous enough to have their name mentioned anywhere to begin with.

But going blindly into PC-98 stuff just means being exposed to all the shit it has to offer, without a compass to automatically filter out the trash simply by virtue of not being mentioned anywhere.

>> No.5612694

>>5612649
well one can read recommendation lists of pc98 games. it isnt like no one plays them. it's just not mainstream

>> No.5612717

>>5612694
>it's just not mainstream
That's the thing though. The small sample size for any lists made means any selections are much more likely to be someone's personal taste, as opposed to the vote of majority that drives the discovery of "hidden gems".

With something like the SNES, "Hidden gem" just means "It's in one lists of best games out of 3 instead of on all of them", but a PC-98 list can often just be "This guy like it enough to include it".

>> No.5612873

>>5591434

amazing

>> No.5613037

>>5612717
What if its aggregated on the vndb?

>> No.5613668

While we're at it, is there any way of forcing a resolution on windowed games?
I keep running into this problem when the games are standalone and not inside an emulator, with the window being way too small to play comfortably, but without being able to fullscreen it because it stretches the 4:3 resolution over my 16:9 screen.

I found a couple of window resizers online, but the only thing it does is allow me to resize the actual window...while the canvas inside stays unchanged.

>> No.5613720

>>5613668
You're talking about Yu-No right? Don't think there's a solution for it unfortunately. It's a common complaint.

>> No.5613723

>>5613720
I'm talking about literally any game playable natively on PC that's lacking internal resolution options

>> No.5614197

>>5613720
Obviously not since everyone knows PC98 games are 16:10.

>> No.5614268

>>5614197
Win95 Yu-No comes with black borders on top and bottom.

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>>5614748
>>5614748
>>5614748
>>5614748
>>5614748
>>5614748

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5617236

>>5616381
horror?
i wish this was translated.

>> No.5618715

>>5591434
Thank you

>> No.5619727

>>5618715
I dream of a day of translated Lakers.

>> No.5621991

>>5597241
What's this?

>> No.5621996

>>5621991
Possessioner opening

>> No.5622153

I wish emulating these games wasn't such a pain in the ass

>> No.5622159

>>5622153
It's the same as most computers. Pop in the disk image, reboot and you're good to go.
FM Towns emulation is a lot worse.

>> No.5622193

>>5622159
Do the emulators even support proper saves like other emulators or do you have to use save states for them?
I played Steam Hearts on a 98 emulator but haven't used one since and that game didn't have any save options so I wouldn't know

>> No.5622201

>>5622193
They write to the disk image whenever something writes on the disk.
Only some variants of NP2 even support save states.

>> No.5622205

>>5622201
Would NP21 support it? How do I check?

>> No.5622229

>>5597505
Game?

>> No.5622231

>>5622229
Guardian Recall

>> No.5622236

>>5622231
Thanks anon

>> No.5622350

Anyone know where a guy can get a full pc98 ost of a game? I've been frequently listening to an hour and a half long video on YouTube that the entire Brandish OST, and now it's fucking gone

>> No.5622362

Any lists of translated pc-98 games + download links? Would love to play em

>> No.5622432

>>5622362
Nah.