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I finally got my amiga up and running and now I want to get software for it. What's the best way to copy games onto 3.5 inch floppies? Use an old PC I've got lying around with a floppy disk drive? Get a USB disk drive? Do I need to convert the .ipf files to anything different? Do anything else to make it work? Sorry I don't know much about this stuff, but I want to learn

>> No.5578595

Get an Amiga SD card adapter. It's well worth it and makes things a lot easier to deal with. Btw, what Amiga do you have?

>> No.5578597

You don't. Get an HxC.

>> No.5578607

>>5578595
2000. I have some disks that still work, and some that havent lasted that i'd like to replace, but i suppose an sd card would be easier. I just like the authenticity of popping the disks in

>> No.5578663

>>5578607

I can understand that, but finding a good source of disks is a bitch and a half. SD card reader is easy. And the Amiga 2000 has the ability to have IDE hard drives, so you technically are keeping with the authentic feel if you use a IDE to CF or SD card read adapter.

>> No.5578682

>>5578663
>I can understand that, but finding a good source of disks is a bitch and a half
New 3.5" DD media to my knowledge has not been made since the 90s. I saw a Usenet post from 1994 saying it was already becoming difficult to find them.

>> No.5578725

>>5578682

Which is why I suggested the SD or CF card adapter. For like $50 to $100 anyone can easily get around the issue of hardware becoming impossible to find.

>> No.5578728

>>5578682

Hell, I just looked. Gotek makes a USB floppy emulator for $36 USD. So worth grabbing.

>> No.5578731

Oi m8, that James Pond was a rousting good game on the ol' Amiga. Can't believe Yanks played that Mario rubbish instead.

>> No.5578815

>>5578682
>New 3.5" DD media to my knowledge has not been made since the 90s.
>>5578663
>I can understand that, but finding a good source of disks is a bitch and a half.
I just googled 3.5 floppy disks and got all kinds of Amazon links to newly made disks from Maxell and Memorex. How can you people not google?

>> No.5578989

>>5578815
Yeah I'm seeing those too. And external USB floppy drives are like $13. This gives me more hope to copy them. So does anyone know if I'll need to convert the .ipf files or what else they need?

>> No.5579447

>>5578989
After more research, it looks like hooking an amiga up to a PC with a null modem cable and writing .adf files onto the floppies is the way to go. If anyone is still interested

>> No.5579461
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5579461

>>5578731
I wouldn't recommend Amiga games they're pretty bad.
OP should listen to tracker music or watch some animations by Eric Schwartz. He's American btw and the mod composers are from northern Europe. Brits used this fine piece of hardware as a toilet to dump their shitty games that should have stayed on the ZX Speccy.

>> No.5579547

>>5579461
This.
>>5578585
Get a nice Windows 95 setup going and you'll get my attention. Otherwise keep it in a /degeneral/ or something.

>> No.5579584

>>5578597
You mean get a Gotek and install FlashFloppy.

>> No.5579590

>>5578585
Amiga is for graphics / music creation, not for games

>> No.5580661

>>5579590
Except for all those good games that were on it.

>> No.5581189

>>5580661
So Knights of the Crystallion.

>> No.5581195

>>5578815
They're NOS.

>> No.5581201

>>5578595
Besides, 3.5" media is less than reliable. Especially when the disks are 25+ years old.

>> No.5581242

>>5579461
Some are ok, just avoid arcade ports and anything that tries to replicate console-style gameplay.

>> No.5581330

>>5581242
Eh not really, they're all pretty clunky and have ports available which are much better.

>> No.5581664

>>5581201
From the box of games from my childhood that my dad still had lying around about 80% of the disks still work. If I have an easy, reliable way to copy new disks, I don't mind replacing them

>> No.5581667

>>5581664
>new disks
In that case, get you a time machine back to 1988.

>> No.5581960

>>5581667
1. Read the thread
2. Learn to Google
We've already established they still make and sell 3.5 inch floppies, despite the apparent common "knowledge" that the ancient technique had been lost to the sands of time

>> No.5582057

>>5578585
Get a floppy emulator. Not the one shillanon is shilling here >>5578597

>>5578663
Easy to find unless you're literally retarded. Almost as retarded as if you actually use them

>>5578682
You got trolled kiddo

>> No.5582942

>>5581960
Maybe 1.44MB disks, not the DD ones.

>> No.5582953

>>5578595
>>5578663
I always hated using floppies back in the day. No idea why anyone would still willingly subject themselves to that in 2019.

>> No.5582974

>*.ipf
Fuck that noise, mate. 99% of the time the cracktros were better than the games.

>> No.5582982

>>5582974
>99% of the time the cracktros were better than the games
I'd rather look at the crack screen than play Double Dragon or Yolanda too.

>> No.5583068

Transferring games via null modem cable is painfully slow. Expect to lose your shit if you want to copy much over. Back in the day when I was doing things that way I was dumping stuff in to ramdisk on an expanded A1200 - not sure what your options are on a 1MB machine with no internal storage.
Not sure of a way to write them PC side without specialised hardware. There are ways to read them if you've still got a PC with a real floppy controller (no USB shit) and a pair of drives, but not aware of being able to write stuff out.

>> No.5583085

If you value authenticity too much to go for the simple option of a floppy emulator you're looking at about £100+ for a zorro II IDE interface. There were cheaper options but like all Amiga stuff stock is scarce. Get a CF/SD adaptor and you're good.
You can probably get a RAM expansion + IDE combo for about the same price if you're willing to go the ebay route. Get 4MB and you're good for running 99.99% of WHDLoadable OCS stuff, though if you're still on KS1.3 you'll want some 2.0+ ROMS for that. They can be had pretty cheaply.
A SCSI-IDE bridge would also be an option, but you're looking at a similar price for less functionality.

>> No.5583089

(...Also what the fuck are you doing asking on 4chan, my dude. Get over to EAB.)

>> No.5583104

>>5583085
amigastore.eu
gotta goto germany, austria, chech republic, and poland where the only good original amiga games ever developed were in the mid-90s central europe
only real market is in europe for that jew trash cause it was shit on them after the USSR fell apart

>> No.5583140

>>5583089
Pretty much.. OP is just going to get trolled and "HURR DURR AMIGA BAD BECAUSE I'M 17"

>> No.5583151

>>5583104
They sell some great stuff but not much to help OP. The Buddha has been sold out for a billion years now and fetches 4x their listed price on ebay and then some.
Their other Zorro II IDE card is €100 and at that price I'd go for a 2nd hand fleabay RAM expansion+IDE at the same price.
Saw their SD to SCSI adaptor and was intrigued until I saw "Standard SDSC (1GB maximum size)" tucked away at the bottom of the spec list. Huh. Sufficient for just shifting some disk images to right out I guess but damn. I'd be interested to know where that limitation actually comes from.

>> No.5583163

>A2000
Hope you've sorted out that barrel battery, OP.

>> No.5583234

>>5579461
>Brits used this fine piece of hardware as a toilet to dump their shitty games that should have stayed on the ZX Speccy

Thankfully there are many fine American games from the likes of EA, SSI, and LucasArts you can play instead.

>> No.5583265

Total worldwide Amiga sales for its 9 year run were about 4 million units, the A500 being the biggest selling model. The UK and Germany were the two largest markets, accounting for about 70% of total volume.

>> No.5583284

>>5583265
The exports of Germany are numerous in amount. One thing they export is corn, or as the Indians call it, "maize".

>> No.5583386

The Amiga's custom chipset was a complex piece of hardware that required a lot of coding skill to master and the British software industry seldom did it justice since they wanted to crank out games assembly line style on as low a budget as possible.

>> No.5583391

>>5582942
I doubted them based on that too but found DD floppies with a quick search. Try it, there's NOS DD floppies out there somehow.

>> No.5583414

>>5583386
Also the fact that a lot of Amiga games were produced by copypasting Atari ST code. The two machines are radically different and have nothing in common except the CPU, so trying to port Atari ST code on the Amiga was pretty much doomed to fail from the outset.

>> No.5583620

FUCK YOU US GOLD AND TIERTEX

>> No.5583734

>>5583414
Amigafags are still mad they never got a port of Oids.

>> No.5583771

>>5583234
It's another thread where Amerifats pretend their interactive storybooks are games.

>> No.5583860

Up to about 1990 or so Amiga games are usually better than the PC equivalent.

>> No.5583918

>>5578585
Fuck games. I'm not playing games on my expensive A2000/A3000/A4000.

>> No.5584839

>>5583089
This is a fair point, but I've gotten some useful info on the different opinions on how to go about it.
>>5583163
Yep. Dug the computer out of dad's basement, opened it up and sure enough, it leaked all over the CPU. The board was still ok though, so we just swapped out the socket and it runs great. No battery at all right now, might replace it sometime

>> No.5584895

Those blue barrel batteries were forged by Lucifer himself.