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Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:29:58 2013 No.557738 [Reply] [Original]

Looking for a controller to use for emulation. I just want something with a good d-pad and no input lag.

Does this logitech controller satisfy those conditions? Any recommendations for ones that do?

Also, are these things any good:
http://www.amazon.ca/Retrolink-Saturn-Classic-Controller-White/dp/B009DG6MP4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1367112205&sr=8-2&keywords=sega+saturn+controller

I don`t really trust 3rd party manufacturers. Would I be better off getting an adapter for official controllers? If so, where to get a reliable converter and where to get good condition 1st party controllers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:31:27 2013 No.557750 >>557738 Stay away from that controller. It has a TERRIBLE d-pad. I would argue that its worse than the Xbox controller's dpad

Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:31:27 2013 No.557756

>>557738
Hi OP,

I own four of the wireless version of what you have in your pic, the Logitech F710. Great controllers for emulation, and work a treat when you have bros over and you want to play some emulated vidya.

The wireless version also has rumble, which works nice if you set it up properly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:32:27 2013 No.557762 http://www.amazon.com/PS3-Versus-Controller-Playstation-3/dp/B0051MQK6K/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1367112716&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=pdp+versus+fightig+pad

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:32:57 2013 No.557770 >>557750 Not sure if the corded one is a shittier build quality or something, but the F710s d-pad is very acceptable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:33:57 2013 No.557779 I have an nes usb controller from retrolink and it's awesome I haven't touched an actual nes controller in three years - regardless it feels sturdy and is responsice. I definitely recommend it $1.98 + $12 expedited shipping on amazon

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:35:57 2013 No.557801 Just get this. http://www.amazon.com/Playstation-Controller-Adapter-Lifetime-Warranty-2/dp/B000F6BGXY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367112863&sr=8-1&keywords=PS1+to+USB The Playstation controller is hands down the best controller for classic emulation.

Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:36:57 2013 No.557810

>>557750
>>557756
>>557770
Thanks. The dpad is really important for me, though. Are there any usb controllers known for having good dpads?

>>557762
Does that even have a dpad?

>>557779
So retrolink is reliable? Is that in general, or just NES controllers; I`ve heard the Saturn controller is god-tier, but am not sure about imitations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:38:27 2013 No.557819 >>557810 >Does that even have a dpad? It has a micro-switch thumbstick. It's better than a d-pad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:38:27 2013 No.557820 >>557810 I haven't tried others, but the NES controller from them I strongly recommend not only to you, but anyone that happens to see this

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:41:58 2013 No.557839 I need a good snes usb controller, any suggestions?

Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:46:57 2013 No.557864
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>>557839
Use a Playstation controller since they have the same layout with extra buttons and you can comfortably play other emulators later if you want.
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>>557801
Well Idk about that exact adapter. But I've been using a Gamemon USB adapter that I picked about 5 or so years ago at Walmar and it's amazing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:55:27 2013 No.557918 >>557738 It's a pretty good controller, OP. Fucking terrible for games like Mortal Kombat, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 21:59:27 2013 No.557948 >>557738 I bought that thing today. Haven't done much playing with it yet, of course, but thus far, I'm quite happy with it. The d-pad configuration was a little funky, but I've yet to encounter any actual problems while playing.

Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:01:57 2013 No.557961

OP, I have a similar controller like in the pic (not the link) and what others are saying about the Logitech F710. I'd pick that bugger up in a heartbeat if I were you. Just note on some emulator programs (like Snes9x) you need to map the diagonals just for proper control as this thing DOES have diagonals.

Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:02:57 2013 No.557971
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>>557810

i bought one of these a while ago

it's the best dpad i've used for snes games besides an actual snes controller

i had that logitech one in your picture and it's not that great

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:04:27 2013 No.557991 DO NOT GET THAT ONE OP. I have the same one, and it's shit. It no longer works the right way either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:04:27 2013 No.557993 >>557750 wtf are you talking about? The D-pad is almost as good as the saturn's. OP, disreguard that post.

Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:09:57 2013 No.558026

>>557738

I own that thing. D-pad isn't terrible for a floater. Not hitting that mode button while using the left stick takes some getting used to. Makes quite a bit of noise. Bumpers are nice and tight. Kind of rigid on the triggers, which I like. No problems with input lag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:11:57 2013 No.558037 >>557961 The D-Pad does work better with diagonals in play,

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:12:58 2013 No.558046 If you're just going to use it for retro, why buy one with analog sticks and a questionable d-pad? Buy something designed for 2D games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:13:57 2013 No.558053 >>558046 I`m open to recommendations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:17:57 2013 No.558073 >>558053 These are good: >>557971 >>557762

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:20:57 2013 No.558096 >main gamepad breaks >switch to secondary logitec pad >realize that the joysticks only have 8 directions >8 fucking directions why not build it with 3 Dpads?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:26:27 2013 No.558149 If I get a PS2 to USB adapter, is there anywhere to get a cheap PS2 controller?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:26:58 2013 No.558146 File: 19 KB, 300x300, tomee n64.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hyperkin Tomee N64 controller. Great D-pad, no input lag at all, very comfortable, cheap.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:29:57 2013 No.558160 >>558149 http://www.ebay.com/itm/DualShock-Analog-Controller-for-PS2-PlayStation-2-/230936343052?pt=US_Video_Game_Controllers&hash=item35c4e0f20c First result on eBay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:38:58 2013 No.558223 >>558046 The analog sticks don't get in the way, and maybe he is also emulating PS1?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:41:58 2013 No.558243 >>557864 I had one of those, but the cord and sockets kept fucking up on me. Eventually nothing could be read from it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:41:59 2013 No.558245 >>558160 I'm really new to online shopping. That's a chinese knockoff of a PS2 controller, right? Are they really trustworthy?

Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:45:59 2013 No.558274

>>558245
It's got the SONY logo in the picture so I assumed it wouldn't be, but now that I look again it's listed as unbranded/generic. Have a look around for something that looks more genuine. I can't remember the site I got mine off, but they were only a few dollars more than that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:47:29 2013 No.558298 >>558274 >(NON OEM)

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:47:58 2013 No.558295 >>557738 I have the controller in the pic and it's pretty damn good

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:47:58 2013 No.558296 >>558274 >>558160 it's probably not usb either

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 22:53:28 2013 No.558332 >>558296 He said he was using an adapter.

Anonymous Sun Apr 28 08:40:29 2013 No.561310
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Do you have a PS2 controller lying around? You can use one of these babies. I got it from dealextreme at like 5 bucks and it works like a charm.

http://dx.com/p/dual-ps-ps2-controller-to-usb-2-0-pc-joystick-adapter-11707

Anonymous Sun Apr 28 08:44:28 2013 No.561318
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>>557810
you can try the speedlink fx ones. I don't know but this looks rather decent to me.

I own a F510 logitech one too and the dpad wasn't an issue. works fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 08:48:58 2013 No.561326 >>557750 Xbox360 has a MUCH worse dpad. Logitech's controllers actually have my favorite dpads out of any pc controller TL;DR fuck you, logitech dpads are great

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 08:52:28 2013 No.561340 >>561310 I have one of those and it works fine for a single controller but the second input does fuck all. Did you have the same experience/is there any way around it?

Anonymous Sun Apr 28 08:53:28 2013 No.561345

>>557820
I've been thinking about this one or an adapter for the original NES controller, but I read a review for that one which said it was not accurate enough. If you play games casually pretty much anything will go, but if you speedrun games and need very accurate inputs I'm thinking it might not cut it.

Anonymous Sun Apr 28 08:55:58 2013 No.561352

>>558146
for multi-emulation and all-round stuff the best thing to use is something with a dual shock layout and 2 sticks. I'm sure the tomee controller is good but I wouldn't recommend it for everything as it lacks a stick and several buttons for most needs. if you're using it as a N64 purist, it's totally fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 08:56:58 2013 No.561357 >>561340 I never had this problem but I'm not surprised to hear something like this. It's dealextreme after all so not everyone is lucky with the quality of the product you get. It is an ideal choice when it comes to the price though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 08:56:58 2013 No.561360 >>561326 >TL;DR fuck you, logitech dpads are great Agreed, i love my F710, at least for emulation. Modern games tend to be trickier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 13:38:07 2013 No.562949 >>557738 Read this: http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Controllers

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 14:54:29 2013 No.563549 i can't even look at logitechs anymore. i don't want to get into it, but let me tell you the construction of those things is just so terrible and from the conversations i've had i'm not the only one who thinks so

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 15:42:58 2013 No.563902 >>558096 You probably have the analog and digital settings switched around.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 15:44:28 2013 No.563912 >>557738 I've got one of the Logitechs and have had no problems with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 16:35:58 2013 No.564406 >>563549 it's shaped exactly like a playstation controller they're really quite nice, my logitech rumblepad 2 is the best controller I own for emulation I use my 360 controller for 3D games though

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 16:41:58 2013 No.564451 >>557738 To reiterate what others have said, I have that gamepad and I really like it. The d-pad is fine and I haven't had any noticeable input lag.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 17:01:58 2013 No.564598 File: 23 KB, 360x360, wecanfixthat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>561326 >Logitech makes good PC dpads >Logitech make good dpads because of no competition

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 20:28:58 2013 No.566001 File: 698 KB, 1603x1441, pccontrollers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] these are the only controllers one sees for their pc

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 20:32:28 2013 No.566035 File: 698 KB, 1603x1441, pccontrollers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] these are the only controllers one needs for their pc

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 20:39:58 2013 No.566113 All that I ever wanted was essentially a dualshock 3 with six face buttons Is it really that much to ask >in before 360 layout is better I value more the D-Pad position

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 20:41:58 2013 No.566130 http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Pad-EX-Turbo-Black/dp/B002LT9PXQ This controller is pretty great. Definitely an improvement over the original xbox 360 controller imo but the dpad placement could be less than ideal for some.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 20:43:29 2013 No.566142 >>561352 But it has 6 face buttons and 2 shoulder buttons. It's perfect for everything but dual stick PS1 games, PS2 games, Gamecube and wii games. Not saying it's good mind you, I have never touched one.

Anonymous Sun Apr 28 20:54:28 2013 No.566227

>>566130
honestly, it looks too damn big. and my ideal replacement has an extra set of buttons right where your middle fingers rest, that when pressed act like L3/R3 because I hate pressing the sticks in to sprint

>>566142
not really. the uneven sized face buttons made 2d fighters on n64 difficult. the dpad was actually really retarded, having an uneven mold. and i don't even need to touch that analog stick position.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 20:55:58 2013 No.566234 >>564406 +1 for the rumblepad 2. >$10 >works on everything >rumble drivers actually work >motherfucking indestructible Only flaws are no pressure sensitive triggers for racing games (not an issue for emulation), and rumble drivers do not work on linux

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 21:00:59 2013 No.566269 >>557750 Yeah, my friend gave it to me for free because I needed one and although everything else about it is fine, the Dpad fucks you up hard. I remember I was playing SoTN on it and trying to get a spell off was impossible on that thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 28 23:55:28 2013 No.568097 >>557738 I got this one a few months ago and it crapped out on me, but I think that was just a random bit of bad luck. The wire got pulled or something. It just disconnects and reconnects if you move it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 11:03:59 2013 No.571172 >>566035 I heard the dpad of sls saturn controller has a sticky input issue. Is that real?

Anonymous Mon Apr 29 13:09:59 2013 No.571831

>>561318

I just got 2 of these in the mail from envizage in yurp.

The feel of these controllers is fantastic, they are slightly larger than dualshocks, with a vita-like dpad.

The buttons are raised up slightly higher, and feel more responsive to the touch. The R2 and L2 have a similar style to the PS3 dualshock, i.e. they are more triggers than buttons. They have less of a range though, so they feel a bit more like buttons. I would say it is middle ground between ps2 and ps3 dualshock.

I just got them delivered to my work now, I will report back after i test the wireless link and inputs. I am hopeful, as the feel of the controller is perfect.

Anonymous Mon Apr 29 13:15:59 2013 No.571861

>>557738
Do NOT use XBox Mode if you can help it. It may have an XBox mode but it's not useful at all for playing XBox games or ports on Steam. The joysticks only have two sensitivity settings (MIN and MAX) and trying to fly a plane in Just Cause 2 is practically impossible. The triggers are probably the same but I didn't play a game that utilized sensitive triggers (If JC2 did, I didn't notice). It's been solid in emulating GBA/PS1 games, though, and would wholly reccomend it for the sake of /vr/

Anonymous Mon Apr 29 19:42:01 2013 No.574548

>>571172
No. You're thinking of those counterfeit pieces of shit from retrotech & gtron. Those I know the dpad sticks because I had one before I got a SLS controller. The counterfeit has since had it's pcb placed inside a real Saturn controller shell. As for the SLS, it's not quite as durable as a real Saturn controller, but damn close and without flaws.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 20:07:31 2013 No.574717 >>571861 xbox mode is for windows live gamepad compatibility. only games that don't support old gamepads need that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 20:22:01 2013 No.574825 >>574717 Just Cause 2 is 'controller-enabled' on PC, and based on my experience I would not reccomend the Logitech if he ever plans on playing a modern game with it's XBox Mode.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:40:32 2013 No.575336 File: 12 KB, 280x280, 23746927.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] you guys hate the gravis gamepad?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:44:01 2013 No.575362 File: 9 KB, 300x300, 2471018-2006067459-Xbox_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] USB EXCELLENT dpad 6-button face force feedback shoulder bumpers and analog triggers Plug n' play works just fine on PC.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:44:31 2013 No.575360 File: 671 KB, 2048x1536, IMG_20130429_184343.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>575336 I've got a spare, just in case mine ever breaks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:45:01 2013 No.575365 >>575362 >dpad below left analog stick fucking why

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:46:02 2013 No.575369 >>557738 I use this thing myself. It ain't bad. D-pad is a little unusual but I actually sort of like it. Makes playing Xuan Dou Zhi Wang easy (well, sorta).

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:46:31 2013 No.575368 >>575365 Because that's the best place for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:48:01 2013 No.575382 File: 13 KB, 172x212, feels retro man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>575368 No, the best place for it is symmetric with the face buttons. Unless you're playing Dreamcast games, in which case that's fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:48:01 2013 No.575383 Google says I can't use a wireless 360 controller with the charge cable as a computer controller. Please tell me Google is wrong,

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:48:01 2013 No.575385 >>575360 i'd say it's reliable at the least.

Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:48:02 2013 No.575379

>>575365
thumb placement.

left analog is usually for foraward/backward/lateral movement, so the thumb is angled accordingly
Right analog is usually for camera/diagonals, so thumb is angled accordingly.

Do some research on it. This placement is the most ergonomic for your hands.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:49:02 2013 No.575392 >>575382 see>>575379

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:49:02 2013 No.575393 >>575379 >analog Why would I be using an analog stick and 6 face buttons? There are literally like 2 games, both on the Sega Saturn, that would use that. Emulation controllers NEED the digital controls in the best places.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:49:02 2013 No.575395 >>575383 You can't. You need an adapter. Get a wired 360 pad and use the USB cord.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:50:01 2013 No.575405 >>575393 Good thing that controller does have digital in the best place

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:50:01 2013 No.575406 File: 33 KB, 288x235, 34534534.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>575362 looks like bulky garbage pic related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:50:01 2013 No.575407 >>575336 I had one of those some years ago. The D-Pad is touchy as hell, I remember having pretty big problems with trying to go in one direction on a platformer or fighter without either jumping or ducking unintentionally. That aside it was fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:50:02 2013 No.575408 >>575393 Gee...I dunno...maybe you might want to play some OTHER games on your PC besides specifically Saturn games? It's an all-purpose controller DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:50:31 2013 No.575397 >>575360 might I enquire what games come on said Gravis Game CD?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:51:01 2013 No.575415 >>575406 Nope. It's much smaller than the duke, and the face buttons are placed better. It's closer in size to the Xbox controller S.

Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:51:01 2013 No.575417

>>575379
>Consoles people are likely to emulate
>NES - no analog stick
>SNES - no analog stick
>Master System - no analog stick
>Genesis - no analog stick
>PlayStation - d-pad symmetric with face buttons
>Saturn - no analog stick
>N64 - d-pad symmetric with face buttons

Dreamcast and the Saturn 3D controller are the only situations where you want the left analog stick above the d-pad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:52:02 2013 No.575423 >>575405 I'm sorry, I don't like cramping my thumb down to hit the d-pad. There's a reason every digital-only controller had it straight across from the buttons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:53:01 2013 No.575431 >>575408 Right, the vast majority of games are not Saturn 3D Controller games. The vast majority are also not Dreamcast games. Most of the games you'll be playing are meant to be played with the d-pad and face buttons, and maybe some digital triggers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:53:01 2013 No.575437 File: 237 KB, 464x348, 1275097800753.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There must be far better logitech controllers on the market then mine if people are actually DEFENDING the d-pad on them. Because the Rumblepad 2 d-pad is absolute garbage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:53:01 2013 No.575438 File: 18 KB, 438x469, 1350952638147.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just get a ps3 controller and be done with it

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:53:31 2013 No.575430 >>575417 see>>575408 There are other controller-based titles than just retro emulation. This is a controller that is all-purpose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:54:01 2013 No.575448 File: 44 KB, 500x561, 3600_hero.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>575423 > every digital-only controller had it straight across from the buttons

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:55:01 2013 No.575454 >>575431 And that controller has all of those. I don't see the problem.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:56:32 2013 No.575462 >>575360 Oh wow, I used to have one of those. >that screw-in joystick in the center of the dpad

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:57:02 2013 No.575471 >>575437 Logitech pads are fine The only issue is how easy the controllers wear out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:57:02 2013 No.575475 >>575454 It's got a d-pad crammed below the left analog stick. It would be fine for playing Gamecube, Dreamcast, and Xbox games where the d-pad isn't supposed to be used for anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:57:32 2013 No.575469 There's a free way to do it, if you have a PS3 controller. Just download MotioninJoy and sync the controller to your computer with the program.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:58:01 2013 No.575482 >>575431 >d-pad Check >face buttons Check >Digital triggers Triple Check What are you moaning about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:58:31 2013 No.575478 >>575469 Assuming you have a bluetooth conection

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:59:01 2013 No.575489 >>575475 It's hardly crammed there. Have you ever used an Xbox controller? The position is fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:59:01 2013 No.575492 >>575475 And for everything else. You should probably try the controller before ignorantly judging it. The controls for the dpad are easily on par with the mkII Saturn controller. Unless you have arthritis or something. In that case, I'd quit gaming.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 21:59:31 2013 No.575484 >>575478 You don't need a bluetooth connection, you just need the USB charging cable that comes with the PS3 controller.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:00:01 2013 No.575504 File: 29 KB, 299x303, i don't even care.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>575492 I actually do have arthritis and the controller looks fine to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:00:01 2013 No.575506 >>575484 Well, I'd use a different USB, as that cord was shorter than a Famicom cord.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:00:01 2013 No.575507 >>575489 >Xbox controller? >>575492 >mkII Saturn controller. I rest my case.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:00:31 2013 No.575501 >>575475 I haven't played every Dreamcast game, but I have around 70 sitting here, all of which I've played extensively. A good portion of them use the d-pad. So feel free to take that off your list.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:02:01 2013 No.575523 >>575501 You actually used the Dreamcast controller's d-pad? I kinda figured that they expected you to get an arcade stick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:02:01 2013 No.575527 >>575506 You can get long ones rather easily. And if you can't find one long enough to suit your tastes, then yes, as you said, you'll need a bluetooth connection to go wireless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:02:02 2013 No.575520 >>575507 You rested your case...how? The mkII Saturn controller is arguably the best console dpad on the market...right up there with the Genesis 6-button.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:03:01 2013 No.575530 >>575471 Not talking about wear and tear in this case. This d-pad rides way high above the triggers and results in clacky imprecise input. I wish they made Nintendo style d-pads. Far more responsive and less tipsy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:05:01 2013 No.575553 File: 737 KB, 2048x1536, IMG_20130126_002215.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>575530 >clacky imprecise input. you take that shit back

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:06:31 2013 No.575561 >>575523 >I kinda figured that they expected you to get an arcade stick. Yep, I and just about everyone but you apparently, used the controllers sega thought no one would use, yet packaged with every console.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:07:01 2013 No.575570 >>575553 I calls em as I sees em. I don't know why they want to have circular pads honestly. Pressing angles results in either one or the other directions registering at random. Not good for NES or SNES emulation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:08:31 2013 No.575572 >>575561 Well, they're Sega, and a lot of those games were NAOMI/AtomisWave ports. I just don't understand why someone would want to use that tiny little d-pad down in Antarctica.

Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:30:31 2013 No.575743
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>>566035
this is good advice

i use a modded x-box madcatz joystick with sanwa parts for my mame games

for all others i use a playstation DS3 with an x-input wrapper
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-XInput-Wrapper-for-DS3-and-Play-com-USB-Dual-DS2-Controller

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:34:02 2013 No.575771 >>575383 yes you can, you need to buy the pc wireless gaming receiver

Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:38:31 2013 No.575801

I have the Logitech Rumblepad 2 model from 2009. Input lag sucks. Even my xbox 360 third party controller has lower latency. At least when I've tested it with NES and SNES emus.

Is it possible to find a usb controller with very low latency? Every controller I've tried on every PC I own with multiple emulators there seems to be more lag than the original NES and SNES. It really fucks up my jump timing with platformers like Mario series. I'm also a twitch FPS gamer so maybe I notice it more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 22:43:31 2013 No.575837 >>575383 oops, i meant you can only use a wireless 360 controller using the pc wireless gaming reciever

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 03:35:01 2013 No.577396 >>571831 ah, I guess we talked before in another thread, haven't we? good to hear about your report. really makes me wanna try one as well. thanks for clearing things up on those things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 04:08:01 2013 No.577518 File: 65 KB, 571x431, 1315077048747.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That controller has been faithful to me for years. No real complaints.

oliver / 76bit / brainlick Tue Apr 30 06:43:01 2013 No.578030

>>575743
http://pineconeattack.com/2009/08/06/how-to-mod-the-madcatz-fight-stick-with-seimitsu-parts/

im using a sanwa joystick in my wwe fightstick. enjoying old arcade games. covered heug men pics with electric tape, hardcore anti social / not giving an eff.

http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/en/

or

http://www.focusattack.com/sanwa-jlf-tp-8yt-joystick/

thats the one i got.

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 06:54:01 2013 No.578047

>>566227
>not really. the uneven sized face buttons made 2d fighters on n64 difficult. the dpad was actually really retarded, having an uneven mold. and i don't even need to touch that analog stick position.
You realize this isn't a stock N64 controller, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 06:56:01 2013 No.578057 i have the exact controller, got on sale at target i believe never had any problems with it works perfect for me

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 06:57:31 2013 No.578061 >>575393 >Why would I be using an analog stick and 6 face buttons? N64.

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 10:11:31 2013 No.578629

>>561318
>>571831
>>577396

The verdict is in. Speedlink Strike FX is awful.

Sad that I had to waste $40 per controller to find out but I will educate the rest of /vr/. Like I said before, the feel of these controllers is amazing. They are slightly larger than dualshocks which reduce strain on bigger hands.

HERE IS THE PROBLEM...there is a slight response time due to the wireless signal, not good for retro games. It does not happen all the time, I was able to complete turbo tunnel in Battletoads with it and I was able to beat contra without 30 lives. That is not the biggest problem though...

The DPAD, while it appears that the individual directions are un-linked, that is not the case. If you hit the 'down' arrow on the left side, it will register as 'down-left', this is a travesty for retro games. In contra it will result in your character ceasing to crouch, and move forward while aiming diagonally downward...a death sentence in a fast paced game like contra or battletoads.

Playing 3D games is OK, like Twisted Metal 2 ran fine...but why wouldn't I just use a PS2 controller with an adapter or PS3 bluetooth??

Pass on this controller. The linked DPAD(even though the design shows them as fucking unlinked) and questionable wireless communication make it ass.

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:27:02 2013 No.579715

>>578629
gee, thanks for telling us about that.
I would have bought it for 30 euros or something but it's good to hear some insight as I didn't really find any in-depth ratings or reports.

welp, guess I stick to my logitech one for now and switch for an adapter and a Wii Classic controller pro anytime soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:28:01 2013 No.579720 >>578629 can't you play it with usb-wire though?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:31:31 2013 No.579730 >>578629 I'm sorry, bro. the facade with the dpad is shit, man.

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:32:31 2013 No.579736

>>579720

Did not bother to try, the d-pad foibles are too debilitating for me to care.

Went straight back to PS2 controller, and I think I am done with wireless controllers for good. Nothing seems to beat wired reliability.

>>579715

The Wii options look nice, including the WiiU pro. Now I have to find a way to sell these 2 speedlinks...Ebay takes way too much of a cut.

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:33:31 2013 No.579745
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>>575743
That it is. 4P TMNT with cheap DS2 controllers, 2D fighters & Genesis with Saturn controller & xbox360 controller for PC games.

There's also the x360ce wrapper for controllers not compatible with Windows Live games.

And for anyone with a 360 controller looking to improve that shitty dpad, here's the worlds simplest fix.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:38:01 2013 No.579775 >>578047 C buttons are still smaller than A+B and spaced the same as an N64 controller; problem not resolved

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:41:31 2013 No.579784
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I highly recommend the Horipad EX2 Turbo.

Got it about a month ago, and this could be the best controller I've ever owned. Works great for N64 emulation, which most USB controllers just can't do.

Plus they're cheaper than official Xbox controllers.

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:43:01 2013 No.579792
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>my controller
works great. drivers came with windows. It only has one pair of L/R buttons though. If I were to buy a new controller, I'd probably get a wired xbox controller of some sort since those have the L/R triggers + the L/R buttons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:47:01 2013 No.579812 >>579792 >It only has one pair of L/R buttons though that's a heavy downside. if you emulate N64 you should have a second pair of L/R to map the Z-trigger.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:49:32 2013 No.579817 >>579812 The controller does have 2 extra buttons on the right side, so you can make do with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:50:01 2013 No.579824 >>579784 All the negative reviews on Amazon seem to all have the issue of analog stick ghosting in common. This is pretty much the only reason I'm afraid to spend money on one of these.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:53:01 2013 No.579842 >>579817 well, I guess, shame they aren't triggers. but I think the Wii Classic pro doesn't have true shoulder triggers either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:54:01 2013 No.579850 >>579842 I wish this controller had triggers too. I would not buy it again simply because of that fact. Plus if I had an extra Xbox 360 controller that would be nice.

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 14:58:01 2013 No.579869

>>579850
I would use an Xbox controller but I think that the dpad position (along with the horrible dpad mentioned EVERYWHERE on /v/) is not as smart as a dual shock layout for retro stuff.

so maybe the Wii U pro controller does have actual triggers. but again, for some reason they went away from a dualshock layout and inverted it.

I want my dpad to be more reachable than that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 15:00:31 2013 No.579874 >>579869 I suppose it is better for d-pad usage. I'm working my way through some emulated games right now using the Saitek

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 15:06:31 2013 No.579913

>>579824
I read those too, and shared your concern. But for how much less this cost, I took the risk, and so far have had no problems. The analog works just fine, and the sensitivity slider is nice for changing it up on the fly, or for different types of games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 15:13:31 2013 No.579945 logitech dual action, it's cheap and does what it needs to do

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 15:28:31 2013 No.580026

>>579869
Aside from the small dpad size, improving dpad response is easy and makes a hell of a difference. see >>579745

As for the position, I've never had issues playing retro/xbla games with the dpad placement. This is because the molding of the 360 controller makes thumb spacing of the dpad & analog sticks equal. Next time your at walmart or whatever try one of the demo units and you'll quickly discover how natural the shift between the two feels.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 15:41:01 2013 No.580105 >>579945 best gamepad made, too bad it's not for sale anymore

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 16:22:02 2013 No.580387 >>580026 thanks I will try it out. I live in europe so we don't have walmart. I know where to try one out though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 16:29:32 2013 No.580452 >>575397 iirc one was Commander Keen 4, pretty sure you got other games as well can't remember which.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 16:43:32 2013 No.580529 >>580387 >I live in europe so we don't have walmart. you're lucky, I wish we didn't either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 16:59:02 2013 No.580627 >>557819 >micro-switch thumbstick Sounds sexy as hell, but the reviews on Amazon scare me. Is it really worth the money?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 17:12:32 2013 No.580687 >>580529 well, I heard terrible things about it

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 17:14:32 2013 No.580698 >>557971 The PS3 one has USB?

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 18:27:02 2013 No.581195

>>580698
Yeah, the PSP & DS3 controller port MicroUSB ports and the PS3 has 2/4 USB ports, depending on model.

With PS3 you can even plugin an official Sega Saturn USB controller and enjoy the best 2D fighter controller ever. Unlike that POS Madcatz Fightpad anon thinks is good. Seriously, that thing is a POS. The face buttons aren't springy enough, the dpad is too large & greasy feeling and the contact pad under the dpad wears out prematurely. Simply put, it fails miserably at trying to imitate the Sega Saturn controller.

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 19:09:02 2013 No.581442
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Bought this around November for like 9 or 10 euros. The D-pad feels funny at firs, but I haven't had problems playing with it.
I use it for everything: ps1,n64, nes, snes, gba, pc

Anonymous Tue Apr 30 20:09:14 2013 No.581814
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>>580627
The face buttons are micro switches too. They tried to emulate the SNK Neogeo CD controller, but according to everything I've read failed because Pelican quality.

If you're interested in a micro switch thumpstick dpad, you should buy a Playstation SNK NeoGeo controller. SNK made them for PS2 and PS3. Here's a shot of the original NeoGeo CD controller and the PS2 controller. PS3 version looks the same, but uses USB without an adapter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 20:26:33 2013 No.581930 >>581814 Thanks for responding. I saw this mentioned in a review of the Versus controller. I'll have to try and pick one up some time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 30 20:29:02 2013 No.581953 >>581930 Don't get ripped off by ebay scalpers, play-asia has the PS3 version listed for 30USD.

Anonymous Wed May 1 07:55:06 2013 No.585013

Get an adapter for the Wii Classic controller.

You will even be able to do GameCube games.

Gamecube games require the analog triggers. The Wii Classic Controller has them. The Wii Classic Controller PRO does not. Don't get the pro..

Enjoy awesome dpad and sane design

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 07:57:35 2013 No.585019 >>557993 You're fucking joking, right? It's a fucking clicky shitty type of a dpad. When you press one side down, the other side goes up. It's fucking floating too high for comfort. It's not a comfortable button press feel like the Saturn

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 07:58:05 2013 No.585031 >>581442 OP wants a good controller, not a controller that feels funny that you got used to after a while of torture

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 07:59:05 2013 No.585034 >>579792 ITT: People posting their controllers rather than good ones That dpad is horrendous for example

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 08:02:06 2013 No.585051 >>585013 Anyone here actually do this? I've been meaning to get an adapter for my Gamecube controller but this might actually be a better idae

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 08:10:05 2013 No.585082 >>585034 I had zero issues with that dpad, and use it for fighters.

Anonymous Wed May 1 09:39:36 2013 No.585421

>>557738
No.
>bad dpad
>stiff triggers
>massive fucking deadzone on the sticks
>problem with the way it reads the sticks where they're kind of locked to the horizontal and vertical axis from the center (hard to explain) unless you push the stick all the way to the edge. Very inaccurate sticks.

I got it on a /v/ recommendation and it's so bad that I ended up just sticking with the patchy motioninjoy PS3 controller emulation even though it keeps cutting out. Better than dealing with that controller.

Anonymous Wed May 1 09:52:06 2013 No.585479

I have onlyh 2 controllers to compared, Logitech Rumblepad 2 (2010 model) and third party 360 controller (cheapie Afterglow). The 360 controller has less latency and though not the best, works better.

Little things like doing a duck, jump, and hit in SMB1&3 is less like the original than the third party 360 controller. Logitech's durable as fuck, well supported, and they stand by their products but for emulation, I wouldn't go with it, OP. If you're still here in this ancient thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 17:38:36 2013 No.587854 The controller works fine, and if you have an Xbox 360 wired controller you can use that too. Its weird playing Mario with a controller clearly designed for an FPS but whatever.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 18:48:07 2013 No.588241 File: 100 KB, 812x500, B0037US4IA.01.lg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is the ONLY controller with dual analog sticks and two rows of triggers that ACTUALLY has a GOOD dPaD PRoVe Me WrOng

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 19:05:06 2013 No.588381 >>588241 Make it Black CC Pro and we are deal

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 19:08:06 2013 No.588401 >>588241 The D-pad is fine but not perfect. It's easy to accidentally press up or down when you press left or right and vice versa.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 19:08:37 2013 No.588397 >>588241 Still no 6-button face like the Hori 360 pad. Sucks for fighters.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 19:42:07 2013 No.588601 >>585013 eww... while the classic controller has a set of analog triggers, it still sucks donkey balls.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 19:58:06 2013 No.588702 >>588241 Sega Genesis and Saturn had the best dpads of all time.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 2 01:55:07 2013 No.590784 This WHOLE thread >not using a program to connect wiimotes via bluetooth. up to four at a time. full HID Virtual support with customization. Nintendo quality button response with wiimote or classic pro layouts. ISHIGGYDIGGY

>>	Anonymous Thu May 2 01:58:08 2013 No.590803 >>588401 I've never had that problem? Although I have nearly worn out my #2 button from thumb-knuckling it in Mario and classic Megaman. So now it takes a bit more firm of a press to register...

>>	Anonymous Thu May 2 02:00:37 2013 No.590813 >>590803 >#2 button the one on my wiimote, sorry. My CCP is still alright. Although I aways felt the four face buttons were placed a bit higher than need be. Guess I could sand em down if I wanted to but it doesn't bother me. Love that dpad, though...

>>	Anonymous Thu May 2 19:06:14 2013 No.594634 >>580387 did you give one a try?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 2 21:01:32 2013 No.595291 >>575469 I'm currently trying to set up a PS3 controller but MotioninJoy just does not want to work on my computer. Any other options or should I just stick with an Xbox360 or 3rd party controller?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 01:25:40 2013 No.596428 Hey op Been using that d-pad for years, solid and works well. Pretty cheap too.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 01:29:40 2013 No.596451 I am currently looking at a blister on my thumb from the controller in OP. I've been playing a lot of fighting games lately, but I'd say that it wears out your thumb only a little slower than a SNES controller.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 01:29:40 2013 No.596452 >>566035 >getting a mayflash adapter for fucking XBOX and PLAYSTATION controllers >not getting one for glorious CCPro are you kidding me?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 01:35:40 2013 No.596480 >>588401 If it's like the Classic Controller that I can confirm. Case in point: Clinger Winger in Battletoads.

Anonymous Fri May 3 01:37:11 2013 No.596494

>>585082
Not who you were replying to, but I have the same controller, and the dpad just snapped off when I was in the middle of playing a shmup. It really is very flimsy.

>>579812
Or you could just map the L button to something like the left stick button because L is fucking useless for 95% of N64 games.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 01:41:40 2013 No.596513 >>557738 I use this controller, yeah it's pretty neat. Used a PS2 controller before, and it's just as good if not more comfortable. Analog on a PS2 controller is a hell of a lot better than this Logitech.

Anonymous Fri May 3 01:45:40 2013 No.596528
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I have to say that the Dual Action is a much more robust Logitech gamepad, and by far one of the best 3rd party PC controllers out there. You just have to get used to the square stick gates.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 01:50:11 2013 No.596551 >>596528 >1 on left, 2 on bottom, 3 on right, 4 on top What?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 01:59:40 2013 No.596578 >>596528 >square stick gates Seriously WHY. Who thought that was a good idea? Were they that worried it was too similar to the Dual Shock already?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 03:08:40 2013 No.596836 >>564406 F710 because you can flick a switch and computer automatically thinks its a rumblepad 2

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 03:23:41 2013 No.596879 >>557738 I use an actual ps1 controller and usb adaptor. Doesnt feel "wrong" at all using it for other console emulating.

Anonymous Fri May 3 03:52:11 2013 No.597004
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Consider getting one of these and a classic controller OP, I bought one a few months ago and it works wonders.

http://www.amazon.com/Wii-Classic-Controller-Adapter-PC/dp/B0089O4EB0/ref=pd_sim_vg_4

Get this one AND ONLY THIS ONE, the other one WILL NOT work with Win7.

Anonymous Fri May 3 06:59:42 2013 No.597475 [DELETED]

>>596452
ha! I doubt Wii even existed when I bought my 4P Mayflash PS2 adapter. It's old, still in production and godly. Enjoy not playing 4 player arcade titles on your hdtv with 3 of your friends. And those missing L3/R3 buttons.

>>597004
buying adapters NOT made by Mayflash
ishygddt

Anonymous Fri May 3 07:00:41 2013 No.597478

>>597004
ha! I doubt Wii even existed when I bought my 4P Mayflash PS2 adapter. It's old, still in production and godly. Enjoy not playing 4 player arcade titles on your hdtv with 3 of your friends. And those missing L3/R3 buttons.

>>597004
buying adapters NOT made by Mayflash
ishygddt

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 08:53:42 2013 No.597762 >>596528 How's the D-pad? Are the square gates as annoying as everybody says they are?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 09:11:42 2013 No.597806 I purchased a PS3 controller, don't even own a PS3. And got a $2 Bluetooth dongle. Can lay down in my bed and play without the worry of extension cords. The controller is great for everything, Battery Life is amazing too.

Anonymous Fri May 3 09:25:41 2013 No.597836

>>597004
You mean the Mayflash one?
I've been using it for a while and while it does have a tendency to go occasionally nuts, it definitely works.

>>596528
I don't have mcuh experience with pads (just played some Megadrive as a kid and PS2 as a teen, never had a gamepad at home), but I generally dislike this one. The buttons are kind of shaky and the d-pad is kind of weird (it goes all the way and the directions are ). I actually bought it for DMC3/4 since those games are major pain in the ass on the keyboard.

>>597762
Yes.

>>	Anunymous Fri May 3 09:33:42 2013 No.597847 File: 226 KB, 640x390, usbra.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Everyone needs to get on my level. No mention of the Retropad. Buy or build one now! Open Source software/hardware. http://www.brunofreitas.com/node/41<wbr>

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 09:46:42 2013 No.597869 File: 5 KB, 200x181, xbox-controller-s1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I use an original xbox controller s with a USB converter. It actually had a pretty damn good D-pad. I can't say much for input lag but I've never had any problems.

Anonymous Fri May 3 10:18:41 2013 No.597951

>>575743
>>578030
I can't recommend what these anons are saying enough. Get a good arcade stick (or a shit arcade stick and some good buttons.)
It's good for almost anything and everything, as long as it doesn't need analogs. If you're willing to take it a step further, there are custom PCBs that will allow you to use it with ANY platform, even real older consoles, not just emulation.
Personally, I can't wait. I finally got around to ordering my secondary stick with Seimitsu buttons so I can finally play shmups the way I want.

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