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5566368 No.5566368 [Reply] [Original]

Is Secret of Mana a good game?

>> No.5566380

>>5566368
So they say. It's on the SNES Classic.

>> No.5566384

>>5566368
I played SD 3 and it was okay, too easy though, didn't really see the point so I stopped after 12hours or so.

>> No.5566386

>>5566368
Who’s the tranny?

>> No.5566393
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5566393

>>5566368
>Is Secret of Mana a good game?

>> No.5566397

>>5566368
I played a little bit of it. I'm thoroughly lost in Gaia's Navel near the beginning, but it looks and sounds amazing.

>> No.5566402
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>>5566368
>Is Secret of Mana a good game?
yeah

>> No.5566669

>>5566368
Why don't your try it and find out?

>> No.5566817

>>5566368
No. It has the worst ARPG combat I've ever seen and a completely forgettable story and setting. Its only remembered because you can play 3 players at once and it was made by Square Soft. Some of the music is good though.

>> No.5566835

>>5566368
I don't like it.
Quintet A-RPG's are much better.
Most of the games on SNES classic are shit.

Soulblazer
Illusion of Gaia
Terranigma
^
Better than Secret of Mana.

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5566847

>>5566368
My SNES classic (PAL games only).

-----BLIZZARD-----
Blackhawk
The Lost Vikings
The Lost Vikings 2
Rock n Roll Racing

-----CAPCOM-----
Demon's Crest
Super Ghouls'n Ghosts

-----FACTOR5-----
Super Turrican
Super Turrican 2

-----HUDSON-----
Hagane - The Final Conflict
Super Bomberman
Super Bomberman 2
Super Bomberman 3

-----IREM-----
R-Type III
Super R-Type

-----KONAMI-----
Castlevania Vampire's Kiss
Sparkster
Super Castlevania IV
Super Probotector - Alien Rebels

-----NINTENDO-----
Legend of Zelda ALTTP
Super Mario All-Stars
Super Mario World
Super Metroid

-----OTHER-----
BioMetal
Phalanx
Super Aleste
Super Smash T.V.

-----QUINTET-----
Actraiser 2
Soul Blazer
Illusion of Time
Terranigma

-----RARE-----
Battletoads in Battlemaniacs
Battletoads & Double Dragon

>> No.5566914

>>5566402
Where'd your percentage counter go, bro?

>> No.5566928
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5566928

>>5566368
I know this is an unpopular opinion but having played every retro era one and most of the non-retro ones it's my favorite game in the series. Though I don't think the series is all that great overall. I quite like it.

>> No.5566939

>>5566384
you played it on emu so it doesn't count. you abused speedkey for when money was needed and you used savestates, don't kid yourself.
>>5566368
SoM is ok just dated. at this point it feels like SoE, i would recommend SD3 on console if you have a SD2SNES.

>> No.5566942

>>5566847
>paying money just to use an emulator
kek

>> No.5566998

>>5566368
Yes, but it's really repetitive. The people who complain about the combat haven't played Legend of Mana and don't know what true bad combat is.

>> No.5567004
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>>5566914
That's Secret of Mana Turbo.

>> No.5567006

>>5566939
>SD3 hard
Maybe for you. For me it was easy. Battles are brain dead simple just a gear check, that's all.

>> No.5567010

>>5567006
Legend of Mana is the one with brain dead easy battles. In fact, no game ever had a worse battle system than Legend of Mana.

>> No.5567017

>>5567010
is ANY som top 10 material?

>> No.5567028

>>5566368
woman and homos aren't welcome here, having said that, is this the game where you gather party members that follow you around on screen and can you can swap them pushing a button? if so it's an ok game, never completed it but I would give it another try some day.

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5567038

>>5566368

>> No.5567045

>>5566368
No, it's really not.

>> No.5567048

>>5566368
Nigga you mean secret of mama

>> No.5567074
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>>5567017
No, sadly because the series has so much potential. Even Legend if Mana is brimming with potential. Wonderful writing and world building, really cool and in depth crafting system, one of the most visually stunning games ever with a soundtrack to match. But it all falls apart because the bulk ofbthe gameplay is it's combat and that's pure dogshit. Tue crafting system is cool, but using it well gives you weapons far more powerful than the game knows what to do with. Such a shame.

>> No.5567101

>>5566402
>>5567004
Nice. Now just make it so you can move at normal speed while charging up. And then make magic happen in real time like in FFA. And then make it so you didn't have to grind out every single weapon and magic. And make it so you can have options to keep some of the status affect of weapons like ballooning enemies with the spear.

>> No.5567114
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5567114

Is that SNG?

>> No.5567152
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5567152

>>5566368
depends on if you have 2 friends.

if you have 2 friends to play co-op with, it's epic.
if you don't, it's merely ok.

pic unrelated

>> No.5567165

>>5567114
She goes by the name of Queen of Rabites these days

>> No.5567170

>>5567101
>make it so you didn't have to grind out every single weapon and magic.
Fucking this so much. The grinding required in SoM to keep magic reasonably useful is insane.

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5567175

>>5567038

>> No.5567180

>>5567165
>pics of ass
time to fap.

>> No.5567181

>>5567006
i never said it was hard, thanks for exposing yourself. also good job confirming you did infact abuse speedkey emufag. i sip on the tears of your shitty lcd screen while you play the game using your logitek keyboard

>> No.5567193

>>5567181
Not him but what did he expose? Most of us who played SD3 in the last 20 years emulated it. It's not as if playing the original Super Fami version suddenly makes it a different or better game.

>> No.5567194
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5567194

>>5567004
>Secret of Mana Turbo
Crazy hack, have no idea what am i doing tough.

>> No.5567201

>>5566368
I wanna suck on her milkers

>> No.5567210

>>5567201
get in the line

>> No.5567259

>>5566368
Action RPGs are always fun, and this one certainly has had a lot of effort put into it's visuals.

But for my highly refined tastes? I'm sad to say it falls terribly flat. The magic system (and the many boss fights relying on it) just doesn't work as gameplay component. They try to make a thing of weapon switching but it too fails. The story just isn't there (50% of it was cut even before the translators cut another 50%), and overall game structure just isn't very interesting (again, results from cuts).

I would recommend the sequel, or even the precursor though.

>> No.5567282

>>5566384
Played SD3 recently again. Outside of the phenomenal visuals, the game really is pretty shit, especially when compared to SoM.

This has been happening to me a lot lately: go back and play things that I used to love primarily because they were so fucking pretty, yet I just can't deny how trash the actual gameplay is. Castleevania SotN is one such culprit. TERRIBLE example of a "metroidvania", lazy level design, and 75% f the creatures die before they're done procing their oopening animations. Complete style over substance.

>> No.5567301

>>5567210
>Instagram face recognition knows her by her tits

>> No.5567313

>>5567114
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMUAH *POP*
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMUAH *POP*
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMUAH *POP*
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMUAH *POP*
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMUAH *POP*
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMUAH *POP*

>> No.5567540

>>5566368
>thot post thinly veiled as a thread about games
take that shit to /v/ anon, you know damn well you could’ve just posted a picture from google image of the game, this is the kind of shit I’d expect from a tripfag, go shill your thot on >>>/soc/ next time moron.

>> No.5567612
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5567612

>tfw the eceleb girl I fell in love with deleted all her videos and disappeared from the public eye completely
>I didn't even get to know her when she was actively releasing videos and answering comments
Maybe next life, my love.

>> No.5567887

>>5566368
No but it has wonderful graphics and music.

>> No.5567906

>>5566368
Yeah, still one of my favorite action RPGs.

>> No.5568282

>>5566942
>paying money for a single emulator with shit games

>> No.5568286

>>5568282
my sd2snes runs literally everything on the console; cycle and hardware accurate. it cost less then earthbound. gg

>> No.5568290

>>5567170
You just need to grind magic for a session in the Pure Lands.

>> No.5568294

>>5567193
shame that you emulated, you never actually played it then. i suggest going back lad. most of us who played SD3 on real hardware rank it a 11/10 regardless of the subjectivity and ass-backwards opinions emufags have since they didnt actually experience the game.

>> No.5568307

>>5567612
Get a fucking grip

>> No.5568313

>>5568307
t. never knew what it's like to love

>> No.5568324

>>5568286
Pi costs a quarter of sd2snes cart and can emulate all retro systems and is super portable.

>> No.5568336

>>5568324
with added input lag

>> No.5568417 [DELETED] 

>>5566666

>> No.5568449

>>5568294
>emulation doesn't real
>go collect some hidden gems like me
what kind of weirdo cope is this?

>i suggest going back and play SD3 on original hardware
the physical game is just as easy and boring as the rom, stop fooling yourself.
I wasn't hooked by the disjointed story. so what's the point?
Only thing the game has going for it is the presentation, nice sprite work and world design.
But that's not enough.

>> No.5568512

>>5568294
lmao non-playing collectorfags

>> No.5568519

>>5566998
>>>5567010
>Legend of Mana bad combat
>Legend of Mana bad combat
How so? It's standard stuff.

>> No.5568520
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5568520

>>5568294
You need to be more subtle.

>> No.5568525

>>5566368
This 14 year old thinks so.

>> No.5568529

>>5567612
cringe

>> No.5568541

>>5567201
I just want to hang out with her and play video games.

>> No.5568545

>>5566386
it's princess sevenleaf

>> No.5568559

>>5568519
Enemy hitstun is insane, enemies are slow and take forever to attack. Basically you can walk up and mash buttons and destroy everything. There's a combo system, but it doesn't even matter because the game's so fucking easy. Even when the enemies are level 99 they're still easy, they just become damage sponges that you have to lock down with easy as fuck combos for longer. There's no difficulty, and that means it's not good.

>> No.5568647

>>5568545
Wait seriously? She's cute

>> No.5568671

>>5567038
Men often do this, but then incels say it doesn't count because they're basedboy beta cucks.

>> No.5568678

>>5568559
>There's a combo system, but it doesn't even matter because the game's so fucking easy. Even when the enemies are level 99 they're still easy, they just become damage sponges that you have to lock down with easy as fuck combos for longer. There's no difficulty, and that means it's not good.
Hence it's standard Mana combat.
Just like I said.

>> No.5568708

>>5566368
What did the chubby you fap to tell you to think?

>> No.5568732
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>>5568647
He's fucking with you. It's a female (female) cutie who's gotten fatter since she started YT in 2015. Her grad student career got boring, so she started thottin it up with thirsty nigs as Supanintendogirl by let'splaying SNES games she played with her older brother in the 90s. Lost so much fluid to her, even in the current year + 4, despite the fact that she's increasingly gotten unbearably annoying, boring, and bossy over the past four years.

>> No.5568794

>>5568732
>im it's personal army
cringe

>> No.5568801

>>5568541
cringe

>> No.5568813

>>5568794
Say whatever you want, anon. My last sentence implies I don't give a fuck except to fap

>> No.5568816

>>5568732
do you have nudes tho?

>> No.5568823

>>5568816
I wish. She has a patreon, I think, so someone probably does

>> No.5568847

>>5568823
cant believe how tubby she has gotten, still would smash for sure though if anything its probably better actually

>> No.5568854

>>5566402
Looks like a Zelda rip off but I want it.
I'ma go here -> romsmania.com

>> No.5568863

>>5567038
Too true

>> No.5568864

/v/-tier thread

>> No.5568869

>>5567175
Not too true

>> No.5568892

>>5566402
>>5567194
Wow this hack makes the game look much better. I fucking hated that percentage nonsense, does this remove the dicerolls for hit chance too?

>> No.5568959

>>5568732
>unbearably annoying, boring, and bossy
>woman
Checks out

>> No.5568965

No, it isn't. The adventure is completely convoluted. There's an incredible lack of cohesion compared to superior JRPGs from that era including The Secret of Evermore, ChronoTrigger and Mystic Quest.

>> No.5568969

>>5568732
>female (female)
>Lost so much fluid to her

maybe you should lose your life, intentionally you raging faggot

>> No.5568973

>>5568324
see >>5568336

>>5568449
if you emulated, you didnt play the game. i feel bad for people that have no choice but emulation but hey thats what not getting an education will do to you. you might need to learn better coping skills.
>>5568512
ive beaten the game 4 times in my life and stands as the best game on the super nintendo imo.

>> No.5568981

>>5568973
>if you emulated, you didnt play the game
this is a phrase right out of the barf hole of a shitposter or a mentally challenged faggot.

>> No.5568989

>>5568981
you need to relax man. im just stating the obvious. you cant seriously say you played the game or even mimicked a cents worth of the enjoyment you would have gotten actually playing it on console. emufags like you shouldn't even be posting on /vr/

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5569006

>>5568989
I flashed an eeprom with both secret of mana 1 and the fan translation of 2 and soldered it onto a fan made snes board and played them both on my snes. Can I say I played them?

>> No.5569013

>>5569006
no cause its not original hardware. import the game and buy a super famicom then talk to me.

>> No.5569014

Virgin Secret of Mana
vs
Chad Seiken Densetsu III

>> No.5569170

>>5568813
Still cringe

>> No.5569539

Bumpy

>> No.5569556

Who is this mucus mistress?

>> No.5569560

>>5569556
Read the thread, fucktard.

>> No.5569567
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>>5568732
someone please show me the udders on this cow

>> No.5569575

>>5569567
There's leaks under her different Youtube name SupaPixelGirl

>> No.5569591

>>5566368
God fucking dammit, I have to see this bitch in every comment section on youtube and now here too?!

With any luck an illegal immigrant will disappear her.

>> No.5569595

>>5567540
based af

>> No.5569598

>>5566368

The remake is better gameplay wise.

>> No.5569607

>>5569575
just post the damn tit pics
I aint googling shit

>> No.5569617

>>5568671
Whatever helps you sleep at night, hole.

>> No.5569635

>>5566393
Is that PAL version? The textbox looks much better than the atrocious, nearly unreadable garbage in NTSC version regardless of settings.

>> No.5569647

>>5569591
For real, fuck this cunt.

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>>5569617
btw i'm a boi

>> No.5569662
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>>5569556

Here is another one

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>>5569575
>SupaPixelGirl
Based anon.

>> No.5569735

>>5566368
It's a passable game with garbage design choices, clad in beautiful audiovisuals. The graphics and music are now iconic and pretty much started the beautiful aesthetics SNES RPGs of the late era are famous for.
However there are some awful facets of this game, first thing that struck me is that despite being a beautiful game, the text boxes are very hard to read, and no background you can choose helps with that. Why they didn't go with fully filled backgrounds but instead with this quasi-transparent checkered bullshit is beyond me. Full-width text is also ugly (although nowhere near the levels Terranigma presents), but I'm going to guess that technical limitations can be blamed for that.
SnesDrunk put it best by saying it's basically a top-down beat 'em up with RPG features - and it is. Hit detection leaves much to be desired. In my experience probably around 20% of attacks I attempted resulted in the enemy receiving damage or otherwise getting stunned. This lackluster system is further dragged down by the awful, awful percentage meter which limits your damage output and doesn't even seem to work properly - though the game wants you to get into the rhythm of the action meter and plays a sound cue when it fills, it doesn't guarantee that you deal the full damage.
I'm not going to criticize the AI and that it can get blocked on obstacles, because it's trivial, and its performance in battle can thankfully be customized with the action grid menu. What I am going to criticize is atrocious magic system, the fact that you need to grind spells to level them up, the fact that you never get enough MP-recovery items, and the fact that you are basically fucked if you don't have appropriately leveled-up magic for some boss fights (which are a blemish of their own, bosses are basically unhittable with melee weapons and their hitboxes are probably the most opaque thing in the game). That part of the game pretty much kills any fun I could potentially have with it.

>> No.5569745
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>>5568892
>>5569635
It's a enormous hack with a LOT of changes, and still growing.
http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=27890.0

>> No.5569753

>>5569673
Based

>> No.5569801

>>5569735
>In my experience probably around 20% of attacks I attempted resulted in the enemy receiving damage or otherwise getting stunned.

The thing is that monsters are invulnerable while being knocked out so hitting them while they're are down results in a wasted attack.
One thing that also pisses me off is how deceptive the percentage meter is.
Even when it shows 100% it actually isn't fully charged and you actually have to wait for the audio cue and the number vanishing to deal full damage which takes another second or half.

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>>5569659
>>5569673
Why did you delete?

>> No.5569860

>>5569854
It was mods

>> No.5569867

>>5569860
We know ;)

>> No.5570574

>>5569745
So I've noticed, I downloaded the hack shortly after posting and I'm really enjoying it so far, combat feels a hell of a lot easier but holy shit it's WAY more fun.

>> No.5570582
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5570582

>>5566368
no its missing like half the game and youll never get to see it

>> No.5570584

It is definitely a good game although it takes a short while to understand the combat system.

>> No.5570616

>>5568647
>she
LONDON
O
N
D
O
N

>> No.5570628

>>5566939
>you played it on emu so it doesn't count.
I love when autistic queers come in with hilariously stupid mindsets. hurr you played a game for 50 hrs but you didnt actually play it cuz it wasnt that queer as developers intended faggotry.
suck your daddies asshole queer any game ive ever played I actually played regardless of the media used for that. this is why letting group home retards on the web in 2000s was a mistake

>> No.5570642

>>5568969
virgin white knights make me laugh. hilarious mate guarding of a girl you arent fucking or talking to at all.
8/10 virgin simp level

>> No.5570648

>>5570616
id suck her dick if she had one

>> No.5570734

>>5570616
based

>> No.5570762 [DELETED] 

>>5568732
>cutie
She is human, which means that shit comes out of her ass every day.

How can you find a human girl attractive?

>> No.5570767 [DELETED] 

>>5570762
This. She's a pathetic creature, forced to expel farts and shit out of her asshole even though she's so cute and has a social life and friends and dignity and pride. What a clown! She poops! Humiliating! How can she live with herself and show her face in public, even though everyone knows that she poops because she's human?

>> No.5570784 [DELETED] 

>>5570762
>>5570767
Based and redpilled. It's so lewd that girls are such pathetic creatures despite their cuteness.

I bet she would delete these comments in her videos and refuse to acknowledge them. She's that ashamed of her human condition.

>> No.5570896

>>5570628
you didn't play the game.

>> No.5570917

>>5566368
Yes
Sure bosses can be cheesed by spamming spell if you've grinded them out, but it is still pretty satisfying.
3 player coop in a non spammable combat system is pretty good too.

>> No.5570984 [DELETED] 

>>5570784
I bet she even has a skellington under her skin.

>> No.5570997

Of course it is, it has its flaws and bugs of course. I prefer Secret of Evermore though simply because of the atmosphere and OST.

>> No.5571013 [DELETED] 

>>5570984
That's super spooky.

>> No.5571437

>>5570997
I agree, I also think the alchemy system is cooler than SoM's magic system.

>> No.5571601

>>5569662
thanks Pam

>> No.5572136

>>5566368
she got fatter and bit of a butter face. but i still think she cute

>> No.5572140

https://twitter.com/QueenofRabites/status/892972496877518848
woah, she a total slut.

>> No.5572160

>>5572140
there are nudes of her

>> No.5572161

>>5572160
how can I find them? asking for a friend.

>> No.5572194

>>5572161
https://yuki.la/r/16411799
yuki is acting weird for me and i cant scroll down. hopefully this is the right thread

>> No.5572205

>>5572194
Thanks, got'em. You can delete your post if you want, fuck other anons (they can check the archive anyway).

>> No.5572213

>>5572205
theres that post-cum self disgust

>> No.5572308

>>5567175
cope

>> No.5572384

>>5566368
i want to refill my mana into her secrets if you can solve my mystery

>> No.5572512

>>5572205
fuck you dude

>https://yuki.la/r/16411799

>> No.5573481

>>5572512
>working on PhD
Hey all, can you think of ideas for growing my youtube more?

>stop imagining people care what you think about games and get a pornhub account?

>> No.5573741

>>5567038
came here to post this

>> No.5573775

>>5566928
Beyond Oasis is far superior to Secret of Mana in my opinion too.

>> No.5573783

>>5566368

its so cringey and inauthentic when girls pretend to have passion for nerdy subjects. please stop donating to these whores on twitch. thank you.

>> No.5573786

>>5573783
That's not fair to say. What about sevenleaf?

>> No.5573795

>>5566368
It's fantastic, play it with a friend.

>> No.5573864

>>5573786
Sevenleaf is butz from the zzt/mzx community tranny trolling.

>> No.5573968

>>5572140
more like QueenofRabies

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5574395

>>5573968
>looks at her sub count
Fuckin loool

Time to get a new gig.