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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5558560

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

Doom RPG series
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K
https://pastebin.com/idahQRj2

>> No.5565515

=== NEWS ===

[5-10] Nightdive's BLOOD remaster released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da8x89BBjI8

[5-9] Sigil delay entirely on the disk
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103430-sigil-new-romero-megawad-for-may-2019/?page=47

[5-7] Two more Quake map jams, SM196 and Map Jam X
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61717
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61718

[5-5] GZDoom 4.1.1 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64582

[5-3] Introducing SM195, seven Quake speedmaps made in 24 hours
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61715

[5-1] Release of GZDoom 3.8.0 Vintage
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64521

[5-1] Memoirs of Magic now fully released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=50250&start=465#p1101659

[4-29] Hell-Forged updated to 0.9, Episode 1 fully playable
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=13397

[4-27] Introducing Lt. Typhon, a new mod from the maker of Baradoom and Nun with a Gun
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=64378

[4-23] Jimmy releases Faithless, a Hexen-style hub mapset for Heretic
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=64411

[4-19] NBlood updated
https://github.com/nukeykt/NBlood/releases/tag/v1.01

[4-17] Grezzo Due 2 revealed
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105657-grezzodue-2-has-been-revealed-to-the-public/

[4-16] RemasterSFX repackaged in .wad format for maximum compatibility. With some bonus goodies.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105645-remastersfx-in-wad-format/

[4-13] Pandemonia updated to 1.1.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60984

[4-13] NULL: Face to Face 3 map demo
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=59100&sid=a0e472434de5d8d24ed0e2aad72aa4ed&start=15#p1099526

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== PROTIP ==

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>> No.5565523
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Fuck you

>> No.5565542

blood remaster drops and new op is of duke? ok

>> No.5565547
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>>5565523
Oh be nice

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>>5565542

>> No.5565571

>>5565542
>5565542
Its actually a good idea because we dont want the shitters from the recent blood threads arguing about dumb shit and baiting each other

>> No.5565575
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>> No.5565591

>>5565542
Who cares, OP images are just there to make the thread exist
Same thing for drawthreads

>> No.5565593

>>5565542
To be fair I haven't heard anything good about the remaster.

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Anyone from /vr/ play with the Dreamcast online community on Q3A? I feel like this board should have our own clan. Who DreamPi here?

>> No.5565617

>>5565542
These
>>5561597
>>5561713
>>5563513
>>5563237
It's only fair seeing how much it sucks. We already had great reinterpretation of the game, we don't need BloodCM all over again. Either stick to BGDX or NB, thank me later. Seething Kaiser's cum gobblers don't need to reply to this.

>> No.5565624

>>5565617
How faithfull were Kaiser's other ports?
Wasn't he responsible for D64EX?

>> No.5565631

>>5565624
it was supposed to come out in July I think
might be rushed for who knows what reason

>> No.5565632

>>5565617
>posts sponsored by salty russian
Cry some more

>> No.5565636

>>5565631
Has anyon thought of reporting any of that at least?
Problems are meant to be solved, not ammo for bitching

>> No.5565637

>>5565624
That was a long time ago, a time where devs and software houses as a whole weren't as inept and thirsty of money as they are now. There's no other explanation because me too I'm not capable of realizing how based he was before... But after that I think he did some other stupid shit too, not only the latest one.

>> No.5565639

>>5565632
Kaiser can you please fix that pile of garbage? Why the fuck are cultists so easy to kill and why do they shoot at walls.

>> No.5565640

>>5565637
His projects after Doom64EX were basically bought out by Nightdive weren't they? How accurate did the Turok port actually end up?

>> No.5565642

>>5565639
because your fucking mother is occupied fucking them to pay for your ISP connection to shitpost here

even from beyond the grave

>> No.5565647

>>5565642
Are you okay anon? The seething seems strong with you. Chill out a bit.

>> No.5565658

>>5565640
iirc they were bugged at first but most of the ugly stuff is fixed by now, so it's not like he doesn't care. the thing is that this blood thing is an entirely different beast and even if he does manage to fix the tons of bugs and to remove some novelties / debatable features, it's still not as accurate as other fanports are. If it was an actual remaster with original source code and running on build engine i would just close an eye and wait for him to patch it, but this is a lost cause from the very start.

>> No.5565697

BloodEx is much better port than that dodgy russian shit called BloodGDX, because it has ambient occlusion and full mouselook what makes Blood looking better.

>> No.5565714

>>5565697
It's still crap comparing to BloodCM which has dynamic lights, bloom and hires textures.
BloodCM > Other shitty ports

>> No.5565719

>>5565542
u mad

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>>5565697

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Just replayed Post-Mortem (Blood's expansion episode) on BloodEX. What a disappointing "remaster". So much is just wrong. And this isn't even autistic purist nitpicks. The tommygun is way more accurate than it's supposed to be. The voodoo doll was totally nerfed and doesn't serve its original function anymore. Remote bombs are buggy. Caleb's speed and jumping just feel off. And that's on top of graphical glitches like misaligned textures and floating blood pools. It's overall a significantly worse than either of the free fan ports. And that's really bad for a product that costs money.
The only positive change is that the Beast boss's attack is radius-based (rather than sector-based), making it significantly less bullshit. I thought at first that the ghosts and gargoyles had improved AI, but nope, they still get retardedly stuck pretty often.

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Wishes for Blood Fresh Supply

Fix faulty physics
Fix janky collisions with sprites/voxels
Fix enemy AI
Fix explosions
Fix blood trails Z-pos
Fix missing blood
Fix faulty sound playback
Fix compromised sound quality
Fix faulty music blackback / looping on death
Fix save crashes
Fix netcode
Fix mod support

Add options for texture filters
Add option for bloom
Add optional dynamic/colored lighting
Add optional support for normal/spec/shine maps
Add optional soft particles and/or smart blending for sprites
Add overdraw fix for correct sprite/map geo clipping

>> No.5565817

well this thread is going to be fucking garbage, as per usual

>> No.5565825

>>5565817
let's talk about quake

>> No.5565853
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Daily reminder Shamblers are furry

>> No.5565860

>>5565729
is that actually the model they used?

>> No.5565862
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>>5565853
You know what else is furry? Slash's fifth skin in Quake 3.

>> No.5565864

>>5565825
what exactly?
>>5565860
I think so

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>>5565862

>> No.5565881

>>5565862
>>5565879
What is she wearing? Is that just all skin or something?

>> No.5565886

>>5565881
It's hair, she's a werewolf.

>> No.5565902

so why are imps brown and not red or black which are the trademark colorations for a demon from fucking hell

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>>5565902

>> No.5565930

>>5565860
Yep. The artist (Kevin Kilstrom) posted a bunch of pics of the original models on his instagram. Apparently Caleb and the cultists were originally action figures.

>> No.5565940

>>5565514
How do I setup the Half-Life 1 expansions? I'm using the WON version and I don't have Steam.

>> No.5565958
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>>5565514
While /vr/ is all about Blood Full Supply right now, I went back and installed BuildGDX.

What Blood mods are worth playing (aside from the bloatoid stuff [Death Wish, Inherit the Earth, and Hostile Takeover])?

BloodLines in particular has caught my eye. Opinions on that?

And what's the deal with "The Lost Episode"?

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>>5565743
>texture filters

>> No.5566003

>>5565958
>And what's the deal with "The Lost Episode"?
It's a pack of maps from the leaked Blood alpha, with some polishing up. Pretty solid episode, and worth a play just for its historical value.
Haven't played Bloodlines. "French Meat" is a pretty cool, old-school & tough episode. "Bloody Pulp Fiction" is great, lots of cool settings & great atmosphere. "Rage Against The Machine" is pretty decent, kinda generic though. A guy named Tekedon has released some cool standalone maps like "The Slums" and "Count Of Wallachia".

>> No.5566051

>>5566001
you do know that poster is a notorious troll, right?

>> No.5566093

>>5566001
everything he listed was valid

>> No.5566129

Howdy. I'm trying to find old skulltag wads to relive some nostalgia and rosetinted goggles. Does anyone know where I can find an older version of BossBattles made specifically for skulltag? The earliest version I have is 4.3, however it isn't compatible with Skulltag. I'm looking for v35st, which seems to have disappeared from the internet entirely. Anyone have any backups? I've checked the usual places.

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>>5566129

You could try the wadseeker built into Doom Seeker.

>> No.5566193

So is Thief actually better with the HD graphics patches? Cause it's starting to feel that way. Doom and Quake were obviously shit with them but Thief I don't know.

>> No.5566202

>>5566193
Thief is shit with the HD pack. Worse than doom or quake.

>> No.5566206

>>5566202
Ok what about the Necro Age patch. I played 2 minutes of it with it, never played Thief before. It looked ok so I came here to ask.

>> No.5566247

>>5566202
What do you think about the Sound Effects Enhancement Pack?

>> No.5566279
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What is the best way to play Killing TIme and PO'd?

>> No.5566280

spawns can get fucked

>> No.5566359

>>5566280
Yeah fucking weird that they chose to include those instead of something cooler. Terrible design, annoying explosions, almost impossible to hit. No idea why they did that to their game.

>> No.5566534

Play Dunka Nunka games

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>>5565542
The Blood Remaster isn't accurate and is buggy as hell, don't buy it.
Just get BloodGDX or NBlood instead, they're much more accurate and run far better.

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No comment.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/419370121

>> No.5566612

>>5566001
I wouldn't mind some anisotropic, but I'm assuming he's asking for the option to put a smear filter on, not making it mandatory.

Otherwise, those are all fair requests.

>>5565958
I haven't played it, but I've heard people talk about "French Meat".

>> No.5566613

>>5566279
KT: PC version in VMware since it's a Win95 title, 3DO version emulated(overclocked) try both, they are different and worth a look

PO'd: emulate the PS1 version, cleaner visuals that way

>> No.5566618

>>5566001
anisotropic filtering, so get a crisp and clean image and to reduce pixel shimmering.

>>5566051
why?

>> No.5566634

>>5566607
I don't really care about the Slayer's Club

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>>5565514

Due to popular demand, Beast mode has been added in the newest update of Blood: Fresh Supply.

Beast mode lets you swap to one of the other 56 genders and suck the life out of cis zombies.

>> No.5566648

>>5566001
This. Fucking texture filters make me not want to play a game every single time.

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>>5566639
is this real? If so can you post a DL link so I can update the mega?

>> No.5566654

>>5566648
He's not talking about bilinear filtering or post filters that make the game look like it's coated in petroleum jelly.

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>>5566652
Yeah, like Kaiser would add any cool alpha content...

>> No.5566657

>>5566654
Unrelated: Why the fuck does every game seem to come with trilinear filtering enabled though? Like Outlaws had that enabled and it looked like shit as do many others.

>> No.5566661

>>5566657
Maybe to not scare away the casuals at first sight, I don't know, sorry. It should always be optional, not mandatory.

>> No.5566662

>>5566657
Because they thought it looked alright at the time and it wasn't a performance killer. Something new-ish when new sold well.

>> No.5566665

>>5566662
I see.

>> No.5566668

>>5566662
>>5566657
Back when 3D accelerators were new and screen resolutions a lot smaller, texture filtering without performance loss was kind of a big thing.

>> No.5566680

>>5566639
Name all of those genders.

>> No.5566681

>>5566279
I really hope someone produces a good port for Killing Time... Keep on dreamin'

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>>5566001
>>5566648
I set up a small OGL test to illustrate

1/2 - interpolation nearest, no further filtering

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>>5566715
2/2 - interpolation nearest, anisotropic filtering w. 16 samples per texel

>> No.5566725

>>5566657
It was Hot Hardware Novelty, like Bloom was in the '04-'06. Everyone overused the hell out of it, because it made the game look more technologically advanced to the uninformed.
Remember Oblivion?

>> No.5566727
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I'm in a mood for something like Quake 1, but at the same time don't feel like replaying it for the umpteenth time. Any recs for something with a similar mood and setting? Basically this crazy, edgy, dark techno-fantasy with outlandish weapons and enemies straight out of Lovecraft's wettest dreams? Doesn't have to be a full-fledged game. I'll be just as happy with a mod, a Doom WAD or other things like that.

I'm keeping my eyes on Wrath: Aeon of Ruin (pic related), but there's still some time before it comes out and I need something to keep me going before it does.

>> No.5566728

Hey, stupid question here:
The /vr/ infographic says to use Tafferpatcher for Thief 2 and TFix for Thief 1, but the website for Tafferpatcher says "Tafferpatcher" is discontinued and T2Fix is now the correct patch to use.

So is tafferpatcher still the thing to use or is T2Fix more accurate?

>> No.5566731

>>5566720
>>5566715
I wonder what LoD could do for something like this. Detail textures at close range and some no-longer-looks-like-an-event-horizon stuff at range. I dunno.

>> No.5566738

>>5566725
The mistake with bloom was that everyone smeared on way too much of it, when it should actually be applied subtly and only against particularly bright things.

>> No.5566745 [DELETED] 

>>5566680
Agender
Androgyne
Androgynous
Bigender
Chosen
Cis
Cis Female
Cis Male
Cis Man
Cis Woman
Cisgender Female
Cisgender Male
Cisgender Man
Cisgender Woman
Female to Male
FTM
Gender Fluid
Gender Nonconforming
Gender Questioning
Gender Variant
Gill Beast
Intersex
Male to Female
MTF
Neither
Neutrois
Non-binary
Otherkin
Pangender
Phantasm
Trans
Trans with sprinkles
Trans Female
Trans* Female
Trans Male
Trans* Male
Trans Man
Trans* Man
Trans Person
Trans* Person
Trans Woman
Trans* Woman
Transfeminine
Trans Caleb
Transgender Female
Transgender Male
Transgender Man
Transgender Person
Transgender Woman
Transmasculine
Transsexual
Transsexual Female
Transsexual Male
Transsexual Man
Transsexual Cultist
Transsexual Woman

>> No.5566754

>>5565743
>>5566715
>>5566720
So you meant mipmapping+anisotropy.
It's not the same as texture filter, dude, though they are somewhat related.

>> No.5566758

>>5566745
GILL BEAST RIGHTS

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>> No.5566827

>>5566731
I think Soldier of Fortune did this. It was basically a grime texture overlaid on everything when you got close to it.

I don't imagine this working well with Doom's textures.

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Seems Screenshot Saturday guy forgot about it, but i'm posting this anyway:

>> No.5566867

>>5566859
>Wrath: Aeon of Ruin
Oh my!... i love this atmospheric quakey levels

>> No.5566884

Can I get a quick rundown on the best way to play Shadow Warrior?

>> No.5566892

>>5566728
Does anyone here play Thief 2?

>> No.5566895

>>5566884
The Shadow Warrior Classic Redux version is probably best actually. You got Shadow Warrior Classic Redux and SWP for source ports. Get that and get the SC-55 Roland music and you should be good to go. Shadow Warrior is actually very straightfoward and easy to set up.

>> No.5566910

>>5566715
soul
>>5566720
soulless

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>>5566910

>> No.5566917

>>5566895
Alright, ty.

>> No.5566918

>>5566727
Get Dusk. It's not Quake but it really is a fun game.

>> No.5566919

>>5566727
Also I've recommended The Unforgiven mod's level 3 like 100 times here. Play that. Only downside is some of the bosses are too similar to each other but that's hardly an issue. It's really fun.

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I missed grabbing that Quad Damage again (I managed to do it on Medium). At least I'm prepared this time.

See that Interdimensional Coatrack over there? He won't get the jump on me.

>> No.5566931

>>5566727
Strange Aeons has a very Lovecraftian vibe to it.
I'm also looking for something similar as well that I haven't played, even things that aren't retro (Dusk and Painkiller.

>> No.5566935

>>5566918
>>5566919
Dusk does indeed look like a fun time gameplay-wise, but as you said, it's not Quake. In terms of atmosphere it honestly reminds me more of Blood, with the whole "evil cult in rural USA" theme. The Unforgiven looks neat, though. I'll give it a go. Thanks.

>> No.5566938

>>5566923
I forgot to take a picture but there was fucking two of them.

>> No.5566943

>>5566931
>Strange Aeons has a very Lovecraftian vibe to it.
Ooooooh! That looks awesome! I'm downloading it right away. Thanks for the rec.

>> No.5566951

>>5566943
No problem.

>> No.5566956

>>5566935
Yeah but Dusk's Episode 3 starts getting really weird and more interesting. Like there's a level that's very obviously made to look like Half-Life and another that's clearly copying Quake's Wind Tunnels and some others.

>> No.5566965

>>5566956
Sure, I'm not denying its inspiration by Quake to a certain extent, but at the same time, it's only episode 3 that starts to feel that way a bit. The rest of the game is pretty much just what I described it as earlier and that's not what I'm after at the current moment.

>> No.5566971

>>5565514
https://twitter.com/doom_txt/status/1127217798629871618

>> No.5566973

It's here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRI2rTwvWfk

>> No.5566975

Eyyyy I'm the first to post this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRI2rTwvWfk

>> No.5566976

>>5566975
Close but no
>>5566973

>> No.5566978

>>5566973
oh fuck you lol

>> No.5566983

>>5566973
Aww yiss, a new Civvie video. I'm off to get my popcorn.

>> No.5566992

>>5566973
where does he get those smooth weapons from reeeee

>> No.5566995

>>5566992
Smooth Doom mod. He mentioned it in the original trilogy video.

>> No.5566997

>>5566992
I want to know too, my shotguns don't recoil like that. also the chainsaw is slightly different.

>> No.5567012

>>5566995
He really should link that shit in the video description.

>> No.5567015

>>5566995
>>5566997
I think he said he felt the timing of the shotgun was off so he edited that.

>> No.5567043

So Tafferpatcher is out of date now? Why doesn't the "So you want to play Thief?" infographic reflect this? Or is it still the one to use?

>> No.5567076

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRI2rTwvWfk

>> No.5567078

>>5567076
It's already been posted. Twice.

>> No.5567093

>>5566975
lmao

>> No.5567148

NBlood or BloodGDX?

>> No.5567156

>>5566754
>anisotropic texture filtering isnt a texture filter
retard

>> No.5567176

>>5567148
BloodGDX in my opinion.

>> No.5567182
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>>5565542
DUKE ALWAYS WINS BABAY

>> No.5567187

>>5567148
NBlood if you don't want to deal with Java.

>> No.5567197

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRI2rTwvWfk

>> No.5567202

>>5567148
>>5567187
Oh yeah get Portable Java if you want and set it up that way. Makes things easier in the long run.

>> No.5567204

>>5567197
can't believe nobody has posted this yet !!

>> No.5567208

I'm in the process of making a Doom WAD somewhat inspired by Doom 64 and Quake 2 in terms of mood. Right now it's still in its early stages (I'm building a database to build the levels off of), so there's still a lot of room for change. Do you have any suggestions as to what you'd like to see in it? I'm asking because while I definitely have a lot of ideas for it, I'm afraid it might end up being too vanilla and therefore creatively bankrupt.

In short, it's going to be a TC taking place in this underground research facility where a supersoldier experiment went wrong and they went berserk, killing everyone. You're a mercenary hired by the government to go in there and clean the whole mess up by blowing the facility up. It's going to feature mainly human enemies - soldiers of various kinds, and some mutants which are supposed to be failed experiments.

If you have any ideas as to what to do to make the whole thing better, feel free to share.

>> No.5567215

>>5566884
wish there was a zdoom-like port for build that combines all the games

>> No.5567217
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Almost done with the ammo types system. They're changed with a key press atm, but will of course have buttons in the hud,

>> No.5567220

Is it directQ or revenge of armagon is really buggy?

>> No.5567241

sandy peterson is a dick

>> No.5567246 [DELETED] 
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Finally somebody is making something good out of old pixels.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/blood-the-curse-hunter/downloads/ch-demo-resource-file

Just look at this nice shaded water and neural upscaled Blood sprites.

>> No.5567249

>>5567246
Fucking russians ruined Doom and now ruining another old good fps game.

>> No.5567252

>>5567148
Either is good, certainly better than Fresh Blood.
If you're afraid of Java for some reason pick NBlood, if you want more framerate pick GDX.

>> No.5567262

>>5567246
Why I get only 20 fps on my i7 / GTX 1070?

>> No.5567264

>>5567241
I think he's a nice guy, and a good mapper.

>> No.5567267

>>5567262
Because GZDoom is not meant for all these UE4-like fancy stuff.

>> No.5567270

>>5567264
nice people dont make barrels o fun

>> No.5567280

>>5567267
your not meant to be ass fucked but people do that with you

>> No.5567283

>>5567262
>>5567267
GZDoom badly needs multi-threading.

>> No.5567287

>>5567270
Really? I think it's ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Barrels O' Fun

>> No.5567290

>>5567283
It will never happen because you'd lose compatibility with everything.

>> No.5567293

>>5567283
Not gonna happen. It would require rewrite shit from scratch. It would be easier making Unity port.

>> No.5567308

>>5567290
>>5567293
Then Graf should stop piling on shit that makes the port choke on itself. Why does he want to turn GZDoom into the Darkplaces of Doom?

>> No.5567317 [DELETED] 

>>5567249
Russian modders > pendos amercunt modders. Also when Doom will be ported to Xash3D we will fuck up your tranny ZDoom "community".

>> No.5567323

>>5567220
>revenge of armagon
what?

>> No.5567326

>>5567317
>Xash3D

Hope Valve will fuck you up for stealing their code and releasing it under GNU.

>> No.5567330

>>5567323
Scourge of Armagon, i really should go to sleep

>> No.5567335

>>5567330
I see, I thought someone made a sequel to SoA and now I'm dissapointed

>> No.5567336
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I made a mod and put it up on zdoom forums. I'd be grateful if I could hear some opinions on it from you guys.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=64649

This mod makes you overpowered but doesn't allow any mistakes. You have one bullet for each enemy on the map and there is no healing whatsover until you're through (provided your aim isn't terrible).
If you want to test your aiming skills, give this a spin.

It's still in an early stage and very rough and unpolished but it's playable even with zdoom.
I'd be grateful for any suggestions, opinions or help.
Thank you.

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sigil update

>> No.5567350

Fucking Christ, this is never coming out.
https://twitter.com/romero/status/1127261462353805312

>> No.5567367

>>5567349
He should just said "there are some issues with the physical production and we're working on resolving them". Dropping limited runs name twice feels like blame, and a tad unprofessional. You hired them, bromero

>> No.5567368

>>5567349
>>5567350
why. why do you HAVE to wait to release the free version? the paypigs aren't going to cancel their fucking orders after waiting this long, just dump the fucking wad.

>> No.5567373

>>5567368
If I paid, I'd be a little upset if it was just released for free. But I'd also be upset for this delay in the first place, for something meant to be out in February.
But I'd also never pay for a fucking wad.

>> No.5567374

>>5567308
Because it's possible to not use everything and the fucking bathroom sink. Maybe someone only wants a little bloom? Maybe someone wants to experiment with various filters?
Don't use shitty 3D models that don't fit, don't use textures too fucking high resolution for the applied geometry, don't use every fucking different sort of post processing, consider using mods which aren't a big pile of unoptimized spaghetti in terms of code.

Hideous Destructor is an example of a VERY advanced mod that uses a lot of GZDoom's newer and higher end features, and it doesn't bog down in performance all the time.

>> No.5567378

Why does GZDoom occasionally hang for a second or two when I enter a secret or pick up certain items? It even happens on just the iwads.

>> No.5567382

>>5567349
He should try to do something to make up for this after it finally releases, to make up for it.

>> No.5567383

>>5567378
Because Graf sucks.

>> No.5567387

>>5567374
Lowres sprites/textures + PBR + Detailed maps with dynamic lights still fucks up performance even on high end PC's.

>> No.5567390

>>5567374
There’s no excuse for it to chug on vanilla >>5567378

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>>5567378
Doesn't happen to me.

>> No.5567393

>>5567378
I guess it's trying to cache sounds you haven't loaded and you're on a slow HDD.

>> No.5567394

>>5567390
>>5567378
What mods do you have on auto-load?
What specs do you have, memory, graphics card, processor, etc?
Have you considered reporting your performance problems to the dev?

>> No.5567401

>>5567378
Just play ZDoom

>> No.5567402

>>5567387
Maybe the problem is PBR? I don't experience any significant problems unless there's a lot of actors, or if I use graphics options such as ambient occlusion (which looks like trash anyway).

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>>5567394
gz-qtilt2 and smooth doom.

>> No.5567405

So, I played some quake with music for the first time. It's a really strange experience. I used to consider it "3D Doom" but now I think the game is a form of psychological horror.

>> No.5567406

>>5566639
Cringe

>> No.5567408

>>5567393
happens to me and I have all my games on an SSD

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>>5566715
Question for all the big tech guys. Why the fuck does this happen? I've never understood it.

t. guy who knows nothing about programming or hardware

>> No.5567414

>>5567403
I have tilt++ on auto-load, and you have more memory than I do.
Which version of GZDoom do you use?

>> No.5567416

>>5567414
3.6.0

>> No.5567421

>>5567217
Man I am legitimately looking forward to you releasing this. This looks so fucking awesome.

>> No.5567423

>>5567416
I still run 3.1.0
Have you tried updating to a later version, or if you want to maintain compatibility with something, separately installing a newer version?

>> No.5567426

>>5567408
I have literally never had that happen in my history of playing GZDoom and I'm playing it on a fucking Alienware Alpha with only 12 GB of ram. GZdoom is such a weird fucking engine.

>> No.5567430
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>>5565514
Does Quakespasm have an alternate HUD for the game like GZDoom does (pic related) or am I going to have to put up with an ugly block taking up the bottom of the screen? This is important. Well not really, I'm satisfied with a source port that approximates the original experience while letting me have my widescreen but if it does include an alt HUD then it'd be nice to know

>> No.5567439

>>5567430
i just turn the alpha for it all the way up

>> No.5567440

>>5567430
Turn the statusbar alpha slider all the way to the right, and you'll just be left with the weapon images and numbers, no actual bar or a line on the bottom of the screen.

>> No.5567442

>>5567430
What about QuakeWorld HUD?

>> No.5567443

>>5567430
>Does Quakespasm have an alternate HUD for the game like GZDoom does
No, Quake's HUD layout is hardcoded into the engine, and QS is a vanilla-oriented port so it doesn't change that. By default the HUD is partly transparent so it just overlays onto the screen without adding the extra border across the bottom; you can also change the scale.

>> No.5567445

>>5567442
Quakespasm is a Netquake port, not Quakeworld. So no fancy weapons-on-the-right HUD.

>> No.5567448

>>5567367
He just posted more tweets to sound like less of a dick to limited run. Maybe he's reading this thread.
Hello Romero!

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>>5566859
>>5566867
Is there a difference between the two Wrath installments? According to descriptions the second one is labeled as tower defense and just survival vs. waves of monsters [hint: im not interested in those kinds of games]

>>5566923
Remember there's another one in the pit room. You've got two to deal with. Plus the fiends. You need to see if you can get one of those fiends struck by lightning so it fights the shambler and gets it tied up so you can get past them.

>> No.5567465

>>5567283
Typical nonprogrammer. You can't just magically multithread everything, that's not how anything works.

>> No.5567469

Any Evil Dead style Doom wads/TC?

Seems like the perfect fit. Wandering through the cabin in the woods with a chainsaw and boomstick blasting away deadites. Eventually going into the cellar to carve yourself a witch

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>>5567458
Already did the map, and episode.
On Ep4 now, this episode is the spooky one, particularly on hard-mode, because the Demons are just worse than ever on this difficulty, and the deathknights take so much shot to wear down.

It's actually really dangerous in these levels.

>> No.5567473

>>5567349
>We would have Sigil right now had it not been for physical fags and their worthless trinkets that are just going to collect dust on their shelves in their "look at me I'm a virgin" display rooms

>> No.5567475

>>5567471
what's up with your shambler model

>> No.5567476
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There's so many fucking monsters in this level on Hard mode, Jesus Goddamn Tittyfondling Christ. It's so dark here, and Demons keep teleporting into that central room all the time. Checking my killcount, I end up killing like 75 monsters out of 100+, just a couple of minutes into the level.
For as much as I swear at every surprise and curveball this difficulty keeps throwing at me, the combat is also so amazingly intense and fun it's well worth it.

>>5567469
There was one back in the 90's, made with DeHacked. Crude as hell, and not very advanced, but I think some of the levels were actually quite fun to play.

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RetroPEW is now LIVE! (I've posted about this a little while ago, but time flies when you are busy wageslaving.)

RetroPEW is a list of modern FPS-es made to resemble the style of the 90's. It's currently a very early list, and we would like help with games to add. So please help out if you want. Any help is appreciated.

There is no money in it for us, only love for the genre.

http://retropew.com/

>> No.5567482

>>5567475
He got thicc.

>> No.5567483

>>5566919
What game is it a mod for?

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>>5567283
>>5567465
No, what it needs is to get rid of that OpenGL shit.
Nine damn times out of Ten directX is faster and you just cant get around that.
People need to stop avoiding it.

>>5567471
Mostly I think its the preoponderance of Vores that make the episode hard.
But in some maps E4M3 and E4M4 shamblers, fiends, and death knights are used very effectively. But remember in quake all of the monsters have a short fuse so if you can get them to hit each other just once they're going to destroy each other. Its easy to get Fiends to infight with others because their leaping attack might as well be a projectile, let someone else get in the way of that.
Death Knights also deal 9 damage per firebolt and they shoot either 5 or 6 of them (I forget) so thats pretty much an SSG blast every time they deliver a spread into something.
Infighting is also the way to get these obsurdly tough bastards cut down to size too (250 health, and he's the size of a man).

In the Episode 4 finale youre in for a treat.
No, you cant just stand there at the entrance forever and hope it goes away...

>> No.5567487
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>>5567475
It's from a model pack I found. It looks a bit higher definition, but not so advanced and featured that it looks out of place.
He still has the same gait and attack in the same way.

I'd compare it to the Half-Life High Definition Pack, but changing things far less, just adding some more polygons on some of the existing models, and very slightly higher res textures (I think maybe the Shambler's new skin is based partially on the original's gib model, because the classic severed Shambler head has a higher resolution texture than the actual living model itself).

>> No.5567490

>>5567215
BuildGDX exists. Doesn't have Shadow Warrior support yet, but the dev says he plans it.

>> No.5567491

The shambler is clearly white skin. Fur faggots need to drink bleach

>> No.5567494

>>5567491
You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

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>>5567479
Im only seeing Steam icons here and frankly Steam isnt all that popular around here. So I suggest you get new sourcing added to your lineup about where to obtain these games. There are people who would rather get them through disreputable means than deal with the steam service and its software, even if they didnt mind paying for the game. Im very serious about this.

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>>5567491
fur is your trigger word huh?

>> No.5567502

>>5567479
Most of the games do not have any sort of link?

>> No.5567503

>>5567491
>>5567494
Its matted fur, like when the cat has the slick fur instead of the poofy fur. Thin layer of white fur on thick hide skin.
I would think the dude shooting lightning would make his fur poof out but thats not the case.

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I somehow fucking missed one monster, no idea where, but I think I killed enough.

>>5567485
>Mostly I think its the preoponderance of Vores that make the episode hard
I can deal with Shalrath, just get way behind cover when they're about to throw, I think the Shambler surprises and all the Demons is much tougher.
Oh yeah, and the Spawn is actually pretty mean (but then, he always was).

>>5567491
Romero says it is, Adrian says it's not. Personally I figure it's some kind of seal or walrus-like skin with a thin and fine coat of fur, which at a glance may look like bare skin.

>> No.5567509

>>5567465
most people on here think that knowing ACS makes you a programmer lmao

you would need to completely redesign the program

>> No.5567523

>>5567502
They have links to their own webpages if you click the graphic.

>>5567496
There's some GOG and links to others too. Just too bad then, that most of it is on Steam.

The list is still WIP in progress and will expand.

>> No.5567526

>>5567504
Spawn are easy to deal with.
Grenade Launcher.
They have a slow reaction time so when you hear them belch back up and shoot. Also when theyre bouncing down the hall at you - aim High with the grenades.
Their death splash does 120 damage just like the rockets do. But the GL will destroy them with one shot, while I think most of everything else besides lightning or the super nailgun takes time.
Removing sludge with the quad damage + shotgun is an excellent use of it, thats not a waste of quad.

In E4M4 be prepared to run around a fuckton to scatter enemies and slam them into each other. When in doubt, just run, run, run. There's no shame in it, you'll be flanked almost any place in the map. Also make sure you get that Red Armor, or at least save it for the end of the map so you can carry it to the next.

>> No.5567529

>>5567523
Nah bruh, many don't have any link. Like Revulsion, Dusk, and Intrude. Also, it would be better if the whole image was a link, rather than just the logo.

>> No.5567531

>>5567526
I prefer to just run backwards and feed them nails. Sometimes I remember where one would hide and I bounce a grenade in there, to some success.

>> No.5567536

>>5567529
Dusk doesn't have its own website? The only thing I could find for it was its store page on Steam.

>> No.5567537

Does anybody have that terrible "so you wanna play some Blood" inforgraphic I made years ago? I want to update it.

>> No.5567538

>>5567465
>>5567509
You folks need to build a Compiler that processes the zscript at loadtime to ease the instruction burden. If it turns out to be a lengthy loadtime process then create a cache file and run an MD5 check on the loaded files to see if their checksums match up so that it doesnt have to do it again if that caching has already been done (and well, folks can delete that cache if its not updating changes).
You're basically already doing that except instead of at loadtime, you're doing it in realtime during gameplay.
Someone told me thats what was going on and the reason the CPU bottleneck is so high even when no unusual features are being used.
>>5567531
In some maps like E4M4 you cant just run backwards. Because someone will be there to catch you.

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>>5567537
This thing?

>> No.5567551

>>5567485
>Nine damn times out of Ten directX is faster and you just cant get around that.
You forget, most source port projects are meant for GNU as well, and DirectX is windows' thing

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>>5567542
I made the original but yes this is an edit of that. I guess I don't have to do shit.

>> No.5567560

>>5567551
So? I dont care.

>> No.5567563

>>5567560
You don't, but others do.

>> No.5567564

>>5567560
based retard

>> No.5567567 [DELETED] 

>>5567485
>>5567560
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>> No.5567569

>>5567560
maybe you dont, but the developers want to make their program compatable across all OSs

>> No.5567573

>>5567542
Wow, that's extremely outdated.

>> No.5567576

>>5567573
definitely

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>>5567564
>>5567567
>>5567569
>>5567560
>>5567563
>>5567564
Ive run alot of GNU stuff on windows.
Leave OpenGL as some primitive backend to the game so that it works on other operating systems. Like the equivalent of software rendering.

You have to understand OpenGL was designed as a rendering environment for modelling programs in Sun Workstations. It doesn't belong on PCs. You're using the wrong tool for the job.

protip: Im EXTREMELY based about this shit. Pic related folks just arent fcking getting it.

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5567584

Oh god, it's fucking him again.

>> No.5567589

>>5567584
don't acknowledge, just report like it'll do any good since he's a mod himself anyway

>> No.5567590

>>5567582
literally none of what youre saying makes any sense

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>>5567582
>>5567584
Im here everyday, I just dont usually talk about these things. Usually im talking about quake stuff or giving tips and strategies, talking about fixing your KDiZD or SmoothDoom problems, etc etc.
Ive been a solid part of the doom generals for over two years now. I help out and I would be able to help out Alot More if people actually listened.

>> No.5567613

>>5567608
Two years isn't a lot of time.

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>>5567439
>>5567440
>>5567443
Looks good! Thanks, /vr/.

>> No.5567616

>>5567613
Every day is a long time to me.

>> No.5567619

>>5567614
THIS ISNT HOW THE DEVELOPER'S INTENDED STOP RIGHT NOW REEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.5567626

>>5567608
>I help out and I would be able to help out Alot More if people actually listened.

Gotta say stuff that actually is useful first, broham

>> No.5567630

>>5567156
It's a mipmap filter, not a texture filter, you retard.

>>5567409
When you have a texture with pixel density higher than what that texture occupies on screen, you get several texture pixels(texels) that may occupy one pixel on screen. Rendering procedure determines which one is shown. If nothing else is done you get shimmering effect, since rendering draws different texel from that area.

If you have a texture at an angle (like on your pic), then there's even more texels per screen pixel and shimmering as well as loss of detail is amplified.

To prevent that mipmapping is used. It divides textures by 2/4/8/and so on until a minimum texture size is reached then decides which mip (downscaled texture) to show.
Bi- and trilinear filters have this functionality by default since it can be done in same pass within an algorithm, but results are meh.

The issue wit the textures at an angle remains, and it gets incredibly blurry, loses detail.

This is where anisotropy comes in. Every mip, including original texture is downscaled, but only sideways, preserving its height, and verticallt, preserving width. This is done x2-x16 times depending on setting. These textures are shown whenever a texture is at an angle, with sharper angles requiring a more "squished" texture to look good.

In fact I think I posted a gallery in these threads a while ago that illustrate all such setting in GZdoom.

In short the best option is nearest textures with linear mipmap and x16 aniso.
Linear does not include mipmapping in its process, and it is done separately which results in slightly crisper textures at a distance.

>> No.5567639

>>5567582
>You have to understand OpenGL was designed as a rendering environment for modelling programs in Sun Workstations. It doesn't belong on PCs
And? Linux was designed as a desktop OS and you can see how that turned out.

Despite its origins, over time OpenGL has grown into a fairly decent API for anything graphics related. Sure, at first it was a godawful, single-threaded, global state mess, but things evolve. 3.0 pretty much threw out that old, crusty system, and from that point everyone focused on making it more multithreading-friendly, along with shifting as much of the heavy lifting as possible towards the GPU to reduce overhead. The OpenGL of today is definitely not the same as back then.

But why am I even bothering explaining this to you, since you clearly have no idea about any of this and just talk out of your rear end.

>> No.5567646

IS there any hexen/heretic wad/mod worth checking out? Besides these shitty rpg attempts

>> No.5567667

>>5567197
Civvie has good taste in levels.

>> No.5567672

>>5565617
The only upside at all to the entire remaster is the customizable difficulty, and literally only because it'd be fun to play the game with Extra Crispy-levels of enemies without having to play like a scared dynamite-tossing and door humping bitch on any level with significant numbers of cultists.

>> No.5567680

>>5567646
Check out Faithless, it's brand new.

>> No.5567684

>>5567639
>Linux was designed as a desktop OS
lol, doesn't show

>> No.5567705

>>5567684
Exactly his point.

>> No.5567706

>>5567705
I know, but I'm just bemused by the notion.

>> No.5567707

>>5567672
You can customize the difficulty with BloodGDX too.

>> No.5567716

>>5567707
Then there is no point.

>> No.5567737

>Blood
>requires level memorization to successfully forkstart without savescumming - or heavy savescumming
>"OMGOOOOOZOMG LITERALLY THE BEST GAME EVER"
>Daikatana ep1
>requires heavy savescumming or level memorization to successfully get through
>"OOOOMG WHAT TRASH ROMERO MADE ROMERO HIS ROMERO GO HOME POPS"
Double standards much?

>> No.5567750

>>5567737
>blood
>fun
>daikatana
>not fun

>> No.5567767

>>5567737
> to finish while starting with nothing
> to finish at all
nice

>> No.5567773
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5567773

>>5567737
If a scrub like me can do it, what's your fucking excuse?

>> No.5567776

>>5567750
Cultists are not though.

The only way to tackle the blindly without taking damage on higher difficulties is either prefiring tommygun (in order to stunlock the fuck for just enough to get back behind said corner without taking a hit) or throwing dynamite while rounding every single corner on the level. On forkstarts you don't have even 1/5 of ammo to both to allow for prefiring-based playthrough - therefore you are forced to either tank unavoidable damage, or heavily savescum and memorize the level. Tanking makes you dependent on current leveldesigner's fancy (which is more often than not is not really favorable to you), savescumming is not. Put it another way, you generally don't get enough health to consistently tank "enemy reacts in 0.01 second" type damage either on blind plays. Hence, savescum/memorization is the only viable blind forkstart strategy.

>> No.5567785

>>5567776
Hitscanners in general are just bad design, but eh, what can you do.

>> No.5567791

>>5567776
Lastly, here is the twist ending to this line of thought.

Level memorization as substitute for general skill at playing the game is literally main Romero' gimmick (secret level from D1, his Doom2 levels culminating with The Living End, two UD levels, namely, Perfect fucking Hatred, Wizard's Manse and his other Quake levels on shotgunstart, entirety of Daikatana ep1 - heavily rebalanced by him, lastly, both his "b" levels and what I've seen of Sigil).

Hence, Blood is essentially derivative.

>> No.5567796
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5567796

>>5567737
if you're "pistol starting" an old game like this you probably have all the levels memorized to begin with.

>> No.5567808

>>5567487
chillo's stuff its always kino
though he's a mexican commie

>> No.5567814

>>5567796
No? I am playing the game in the mode it was actually balanced around?
Besides, I consciously try to remember as little specifics from previous playthroughs about the level, as possible, trying to rely at some general pronciples only and trying to look at the level as afresh, as at all possible.

Blood is pretty much perfect antithesis to that style of playing.

>> No.5567830

>>5567808
Has he done other Quake models or stuff? They look amazing.
Shame to hear about the commie part.

>>5567814
Worked fine for me.

>> No.5567841

>>5567830
Explained my rationale here >>5567791.

>> No.5567846

>>5567841
Oh fuck me. Attempt number 2.

>>5567830
Explained my rationale here: >>5567776.

>> No.5567847

>>5567808
>>5567830
>spoiler
let's not bring that shit here because no one but the peanut gallery cares about it

>> No.5567849
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5567849

>>5567841
I don't remember the levels, I haven't played Blood in like, 8 years or something.
.webm related works

>> No.5567851

>>5567847
Just report.

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5567856

>>5567785

>> No.5567859

>>5567856
Not an argument.

>> No.5567861

>>5567856
Can confirm. My girlfriend maleis really good at FPS games and he's amazing in bed

>> No.5567872

>>5567849
can someone post that gif where the guy just storms in to a place filled with cultists but yet doesnt even get hit at all

>> No.5567882
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5567882

>>5567859

>> No.5567884
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5567884

>>5567491
>In Quake, a Shambler is a large yeti-like beast with a blood-stained shaggy coat

>> No.5567886

>>5565817
good post, this helps out a lot

>> No.5567890

>>5567776
Cultists are the most fun enemy in Blood's roster. Everything else ranges from barely functional to passable to FUCKING HELLHOUNDS FUCK SHIT. Cultists have an identity, are fucking hilarious, and provide a good challenge. The only situation I will say they are outright bullshit is when they're underwater because they can't be stunlocked there and you can't see them until you're in the water and they're already unloading on you. That happens in I think two levels at most.
>but muh perfect play no damage run
At what point did the game ask any more from you than to make it to the exit alive? Stop making the game miserable for yourself and maybe you'll enjoy it more.

>> No.5567892

>>5567737
Daikatana, now that was a good game

>> No.5567895

>>5567589
>like it'll do any good since he's a mod himself anyway
citation really fucking needed

>> No.5567897

>>5567814
>forkstarts
>mode it was actually balanced around?
Based retard

>> No.5567904

>>5567890
Then we are discussing flavors of shit, essentially.

>> No.5567908

>>5567904
>le shit
back to /v/

>> No.5567914

>>5567890
cultist can be vicious, but there are movement patterns that make them have a hard time to hit you, ive seen many webms where the player jumps and crouchs around while getting into a fight with 5+ cultists

>> No.5567916

>>5567908
You said it yourself, that, essentially, you aren't too hot about Blood's bestiary, barring cultists. To that I essentially respond that it's a fucking problem, when the game's best, gameplay-wise, enemy, is fucking cultists, whose gimmick is shooting off your toes the millisecond they happen to peek out of the safety of the cover.

>> No.5567925

>>5567908
>the word "shit" was invented by /v/
The intelligence level of /v/ paranoia posters

>> No.5567928

>>5567914
The problem is that cultists' reaction time is essentially the same as yours, and they are non-telegraphed hitscan. Hence you need to prefire, but on forkstarts you generally don't have nearly enough bullets and dynamite to do this blindly, hence you need to memorize the level / savescum.

>> No.5567954

>>5567737
Dai-Katana is absurdly exaggerated in its bad qualities.
Once you get past the inflated hype, and once you patch the game's bugs, what you get is something which is kind of passable, it's not a good game, but it's also not a bad game

>> No.5567956

> starting every level from scratch is the way the designers intended

>> No.5567960

>>5567956
Yes, because levels were created AND PLAYTESTED individually.

>> No.5567967

>>5567928
>The problem is that cultists' reaction time is essentially the same as yours, and they are non-telegraphed hitscan
Just like you.
Sounds pretty fair to me.

>> No.5567978

>>5567954
It's considered unplayable due to ep1, in its entirety, being balanced PerfectHatred-style. Add to that much more annoying, compared to Doom's or Quake's, enemy and weapon design, as well as savegem gimmick, that was initially mandatory, then patched down to be optional. Ep2 and ep3, in contrast, are actually playable in a much more mainstream kind of way - and pretty fun that way too. Look and sound fairly good too.

But I'll repeat. Yes, Daikatana switched engines midway. Yes, more than a half of developers split of, and some of them went to develop KISS Psycho Circus, which, IIRC, they even managef to release before Daikatana. Yes, there was that infamous "bitch" ad. But essentially Romero dug his own grave by making first episodes completely unplayable by anyone who isn't a hellbent gitgudder - and by doing this, dug his own grave. Daikatana's reception is, essentially, ENTIRELY his own doing. Fuck, even if ep1 was balanced to be the same gameplay-wise, but shuffled to follow ep4 (so that the order would be ep2, ep3, ep4, ep1), it would still make at least some kind of sense - gameplay-wise, not sory-wise - and would be at least somewhat bearable. But, yeah, essentially it was going full retard.

>> No.5567979

>>5565514
HOW IN THE FUCK do you shake off the severed hand things in Blood? I'm using BuildGDX if that makes a difference.

>> No.5567980

>>5567967
Being sevrrely outgunned, all tge while limited ammo, as opposed to enemies' unlimited, doesn't sound all that fair to me.

>> No.5567991

>>5567978
In other words, it could be said, that Daikatana's reception is what general FPS audience at the time thought of gitgudders - especially, gitgudders demanding them to git gud at a fairly broken game.

>> No.5568003

>>5567979
press your use key

>> No.5568013

>>5567980
You are far more mobile though, and carry an arsenal of different weapons.

>> No.5568017

>>5567928
>cultists' reaction time is essentially the same as yours, and they are non-telegraphed hitscan
Sounds like fun to me.

>> No.5568019

Guys, I'll save you the energy and get to the point for you: DAIKATANA IS NOT FUN. ITS CONTENT WAS CRAP AND ITS GAMEPLAY WAS SURPASSED BY TOO MANY OTHER FPSES AT THE TIME TO EVEN BEGIN TO MENTION ALL OF THEM. THERE IS NOT AND NEVER WAS ANY REASON TO PLAY IT. IF ANYTHING IT'S ACTUALLY *OVERRATED* IN THE SENSE THAT IF NOT FOR ITS INFAMY IT'D JUST BE FORGOTTEN AND NONE OF YOU WOULD EVEN BE TALKING ABOUT IT.

>> No.5568020
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5568020

Shit I shoulda done this earlier but it's SCREENSHOT SATURDAY. So what have you been working on this week? Sprites, maps, mods? Time to show off what you've made so far.

>> No.5568024

>>5568013
The only ones good for prefiring are tommygun, dynamite and, MAYBE, two consecutive single-barrel shotgun blasts. Which just happen to be the exact same weapons cultists in the main game sport.

>> No.5568025

>>5567916
>only one other person exists on /vr/
back to /v/

>> No.5568028

>>5568019
I dunno, eps 2 and 3 are legit ok to good through and through. Ep1 has some fairly entertaining secrets. Ep4 has some good music.

Essentially, I'd just advise warping to start of ep2 without daikatana itself, playing till the end of ep3 and calling it a day.

>> No.5568031

>>5568025
Fair enough.

>> No.5568032
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5568032

i feel like hitscan enemies would be better if they telegraf their attack
>shotgunner reloads his gun
>chaingunner revs up the spinning barrel
in fact, it feels like a lot of either unfair enemies or uninteresting ones could just take some retouches and changes, instead of simply being removed

>> No.5568040

>>5568032
You mean telegraphed hitscan like in Redneck Rampage pretty much NOONE EVER COMPLAINS ABOUT other than in regard to male and female aliens (the latter of which are actually perfectly evadable through consistent unstopping circlestrafing, although their teleporting - out of the "circle", that is - makes it tricky and, dare I say, somewhat fun)?

>> No.5568046
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5568046

>>5568020
I've doen shitall for drawing this week after finishing Kustam, and there's something I've been wondering and maybe you guys can help me out here:

I want to add a pistol start CVAR for GMOTA but... What the fuck do I call it? Like what's something both thematically fitting while still making sense if you read it without being told what it does?

>> No.5568051

>>5567497
ain't you got some teeth to brush or some shit, thief?

>> No.5568057

>>5568040
The only people that don't complain about telegraphed weapons are...well...they're all humans. They don't like them, because they're...humanoid (unless it's another humanoid). They just don't like the idea that they have a teleporting gun. They want the guy who knows how to fire it just about able to stand in on the teleporting end of it, and they wouldn't complain if he was teleporting just about anywhere, because of just how little use telegraphed weapons need to be for things like fighting, scouting, and (most importantly) finding your allies if you've been teleported into a forest or into an underground tunnel (they'll almost always find a nearby body and a few more of their own). In a few novels, the human race was given their own teleporting gun, and this was actually used by the aliens, only the humans knew of its existence.

>> No.5568062

>>5568057
what did i just read

>> No.5568067
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>>5568057

>> No.5568087
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5568087

>>5568057
Here's a challenge; try communicating whatever you were trying to say in only 2 sentences.

>> No.5568090
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5568090

>>5568057

>> No.5568094

>>5568087
Here's the gist.

The main difference between here and the other challenge, is that this is a fictional character. Thus, to have a chance for your character to be teleported by the aliens, you must give them at least a few clues.

Example

A little bit about the characters. This story uses only 10 different characters:

Name: "Chronus" (not officially known)

Age: 9

Race: Human

Gender: Male

Hair: Light blonde

Eye Color: Blue

Genders: Two (3.5 million) genders, all humans.

Powers: Teleportation. (not a power, really)

Species: Manticore (manticore being the second-most common alien species when it was first discovered.)

Biology: Manticore live on earth in subterranean environments and are omnivores; they consume almost anything that comes within their reach. Manticore have an extremely short life span of up to 100 years, but live far longer because they have a lifespan similar to that of humans. For this reason, they tend to be extremely intelligent and will often seek out and mate with intelligent creatures, or at least feed off of them. Some species like the Manticore are immortal, unable to even reproduce unless they are fed to them. They are thus able to survive far beyond their own species lifespan as they do not even consider aging.

Manticore are extremely intelligent by any standard - they even can reproduce with other species which would have seemed impossible.

>> No.5568168
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5568168

>>5568094
>gist
of fucking course it's this guy

>> No.5568191

>>5565515
Remastered Quake 1 sounds pack released 4-28
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61714

>> No.5568206

>>5568191
i did something like this a week ago by taking the HQ sound effects from QTest and putting them in a pak, bet this one is better though

>> No.5568213

>>5568094
I don't really understand what this has to do with hitscan

>> No.5568220

>>5568057
Is this that neural text transformer

>> No.5568221
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5568221

>tfw pistol started Plutonia and TNT Evilution

What's next, Doom 2 on Nightmare?

>> No.5568228

>>5568094
Thanks for clearing things up.

>> No.5568235
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5568235

>>5568057
>>5568094
whatever drug(s) you're on, plz stop right now.

>> No.5568256

>>5568221
Whoa now, hold on there, son.
They don't say "this mode isn't even remotely fair" for nothing.
Instant hitscan enemy fire upon sight can and will fuck you right up.

>> No.5568261

>>5567553
Well it's out of date anyway so. I'd update it if I were you.
The doom and thief ones are a bit out of date as well last I remember. Thief just recently had some pretty big releases and Dooms was maybe over a year out of date iirc.

>> No.5568292

>>5568094
what

>> No.5568298
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5568298

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.5568304

>>5568298
What am I looking at?

>> No.5568308

WHAT MULTIPLAYER GAME WE PLAYING TONIGHT LADS LET'S GO

>> No.5568309

>>5568304
New Blood "Remaster" (BloodKex) is fucking censored.

>> No.5568319

>>5568309
You're gonna have to point it out, and could have at least taken a screenshot from the same angle.

>> No.5568320

>>5568309
what.. part? the gibs? the second image is clearly further up on the street, past where the zombie would be.

>> No.5568321

>>5568191
Nice

>> No.5568323

is there any mod anyone is still waiting for?

>> No.5568327

>>5568323
s.u.p.e.r. natural
and that other, autumn-like not-winters fury mapset

>> No.5568330

>>5568320
Yes. The gibs are gone. Try shooting enemies with napalm launcher or dynamites there will be no any gibs left on a floor.

>> No.5568331

>>5568309
I still notice gibs in Blood EX, idk what this is about

>> No.5568334

>>5568319
I think they're talking about the body parts on the ground.

>> No.5568338

>>5568331
trolling

>> No.5568339

Not retro, but what do you guys think about Doom 3 and "Doom 2016"? I see them on steam and I might buy them. They look pretty fun but I've never really played a Doom game before so idk.

>> No.5568345
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5568345

Why are doors in Build games so fucking dangerous?

>> No.5568348

>>5568339
Doom 3 was kinda boring and even for the direction it went, it still felt like it could have been better.
I barely remember how new monsters played outside of the Wraith having teleportation.
2016 was more fun but still suffered with arena lockdowns, weird way on how it handled some of the upgrade system stuff and a weak, almost identity crysis based art direction.
I'm expecting Eternal to be essentially 2016 but better in a lot of ways.

>> No.5568360

>>5568309
I think the devs said there was some bug that was limiting the amount of possible gibs, which they plan to fix

>> No.5568365

>>5568339
>Doom 3
>Doom 2016
>Might buy them
>Never really played a Doom game
What the fuck are you doing? Stop. Play doom, then play doom 2. Right now.

>> No.5568368

>>5568308
i dunno what do you wanna play

>> No.5568370

>>5568046

How about "John 3:3"? Because medieval, christian references, etc.

>"Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God."

>> No.5568371

>>5568339
Also >>5568365 what he said, since there's links in the OP.
Don't forget Doom 64.

>> No.5568380

>>5568339
I think Doom 3 is ultimately alright for what it is, but flawed in a number of ways.
Doom 4 is much more solid as a game (though isn't perfect).

If you were to pick just one, I would say the 2016 game.

>> No.5568384

>>5568339
They're very different from the original two Doom games. Doom 3 is a horror-action game that does a pretty bad job at both IMO. Doom 4 is a return to pure action, but it focuses heavily on wave-based arena combat unlike the originals.

>> No.5568404

>>5568384
I think the action-shooting part is alright in Doom 3.
Chainsaw is the most fun.

>> No.5568407

is there an updated gzdoom for android?

>> No.5568409

>>5568407
>android
u fucking wot

>> No.5568424

>>5568308
QUAKE

>> No.5568427

>>5568404
I just remember enemies being massive bullet sponges.

>> No.5568441

>>5568409
i play it on my pc when im at home ofc but i sometimes play it on my phone when im not

>> No.5568445
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5568445

>>5568427
They kinda are, which is why the chainsaw is satisfying because it has a mad fucking DPS.
With a bit of effort and adapting tactics, you can totally fight like 80% of the enemies with just that weapon alone.

Shame you can't get it much earlier or in the expansions.

>> No.5568456

>>5568445
is there a team pop epic mod for doom?

>> No.5568469

>>5568445
I liked D3's SSG.

>> No.5568473

>>5568441
Honestly had no idea people played Doom on mobile. I guess I should've expected it. There's fucking CoD Zombies apps.

>> No.5568476

>>5568469
Yeah, it's alright.
Not the normal shotgun though, that thing was disastrously awful.

>> No.5568487

>>5568476
>>5568469
astleast D3 has a great chainsaw
just lawnmower over imps with ease

>> No.5568494

What does Ken Silverman do nowadays? Has he ever posted here or around someplace?

>> No.5568501

>>5568494
He just made Build 2 relatively recently, didn't he?

>> No.5568510

>>5568494
Some guy ported the original build engine to switch but had some problems and he emailed Ken and the madman helped him tidy stuff up. Absolute legend.

>> No.5568551

This thread used to be comfy talk about stuff we enjoyed, and has now devolved into arguing with each other.

The hell happened? What spurred this? At least I'm still getting mileage out of the MEGA with all the free games.

>> No.5568556
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5568556

How do I get this shotgun into my Quake?

>> No.5568562 [DELETED] 

>>5568551
Trannies stirring up drama like in every community they infest.

>> No.5568563

>>5568384
To be honest with you, the way they did that arena wave based shit in Doom 4 was so much better than every other game that has tried it since, that I didn't even mind it. In fact, I fucking loved it.
In terms of wave based arena games, I would say:

D44M>>>Serious Sam 2>>>Sam 1>>>Painkiller

Painkiller is an overrated dumpster fire. The bosses are horseshit, the enemies are not fun to fight, and the load times... Oh god, the fucking load times. Awful game. The only reason it gets any notoriety is that the weapons and movement was cool. Other than that, even the level design is shitty.

>> No.5568571

>>5568556

It's a Doom weapon pack for Quake. You can download it here https://www.moddb.com/mods/alternative-gun-models-for-quake

It's not bad, but isn't Quake 1.5 weapon pack which I wish I could use in Quakespasm.

>> No.5568572
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5568572

>>5568562
>right from the starting pistol

>> No.5568585

>>5568571
someone needs to convert those to quakespasm compatability

>> No.5568593
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5568593

>>5568020
Can't remember if I posted this or not.

>> No.5568598

>>5567349
What a chungus

>> No.5568605

>>5567497
Stop touching yourself

>> No.5568618

>>5568551
The one two punch of spring 2014 and fall 2016 happened. The latter was especially the point of no return. I hope you like posting on a dying site, shitcakes.

>> No.5568631

>>5568618
What are you talking about, fellow 4channel user? Everything is fine.

>> No.5568632

>>5568571
Also does quakespasm support .pk3s?

>>5568618
wait wut
what happened in spring 2014?

>> No.5568646

>>5568632
yes

>> No.5568652

Since nobody answered my question above, is Tafferpatcher outdated now (and the OP infographic needs to be changed)?

>> No.5568653

>>5568618
How about you just try to make good posts instead?

>> No.5568667

>>5568605
so it is, sad.

>> No.5568670

>>5567978
Ironically, KISS Psycho Circus is a Solid FPS game

>> No.5568679

>>5568563
yeah, you know what, I agree. doom 4 might have been arena combat galore but they did it right, it plays right and shit man, that's why it succeeded.

and it still beats a good chunk of what's out nowadays. everything is a byproduct of destiny, borderlands and fallout.

>> No.5568682
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5568682

>>5565514

>> No.5568684
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>>5568682

>> No.5568685
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>>5568684

>> No.5568686

>>5568632
I'm assuming GG. Where the fuck does the time go?

>> No.5568689
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>>5568685

>> No.5568709

>>5568667
What's sad is that you bring this shit with you anywhere you go. Mostly just to rile people up.

>> No.5568713

>>5568709
uh, okay now you're confusing me for someone else. sorry.

>> No.5568731

>>5568713
You ignoring your own line of posting just makes this even MORE sad. Holy shit. Stop it.

>> No.5568736 [DELETED] 

>>5568445
I've never used the chainsaw in all my doom 3 runs

>> No.5568741

>>5568445
I've never used the chainsaw in any of my doom 3 runs

>> No.5568742
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>>5568709
>>5567491
>>5568605
>>5568709
>>5568731
Holy fucking shit.

>> No.5568745

>>5568731
get some sun or something, man.

>> No.5568784

>>5568689
I kind of hate how he's all angry. I always imagined Freeman being autistic and emotionless the whole game.

>> No.5568798

>>5568784
So you can self insert better?

>> No.5568805

>>5568798
Yeah probably. I think it's mostly because he never makes any sound at all though.

>> No.5568824

>>5568805
he called you autistic and emotionless

>> No.5568829

>>5568824
Yeah I got that, thanks

>> No.5568830

>>5568370
It's a cool as shit passage but I don't think many people would get it. I need to figure out something that makes sense for anyone.

>> No.5568845

T2Fix or Tafferpatcher? Anyone?

>> No.5568850

>>5568845
t2fix, just check pcgw

>> No.5568851

>>5568850
thank you. Yeah ok then the infographic in the OP can be updated.

>> No.5568873

>>5568510
Fucking nice.

>> No.5568874
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>> No.5568893

>>5567491
Jesus Christ I had no idea there were THIS many furries here. Every time I stop in I wonder why I even bother coming here. Reminder that the only appropriate response to any and all furries is bullying to hasten their inevitable suicide. In the meantime, enjoy this awesome vintage Doom 2 deathmatch 1995 prefinal filmed on a handheld camera. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAidS0MfN7g

>> No.5568898

>>5568893
Based. All furfags yiff in hell. Cool video, btw.

>> No.5568906

>>5568562
Correct

>> No.5568907
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>>5568893
>>5568898
oh nononoNONONONONONON *WHEEZE* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD *WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE*

>> No.5568910

nah

>> No.5568915

>>5568898
Thx bb

>> No.5568945
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I was here when the original SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME DOOM picture was made.

Where does the time go.

>> No.5568947

>>5568893
What map are they playing?

>> No.5568948

>>5568945
Time flows fast. Sometimes I wonder if it needs an update

>> No.5568950

>>5568948
I'd say yeah, a lot of good map packs have come out since the last one.

>> No.5568952

>>5568893
>>5568898
>>5568915
LOL

>> No.5568958

>>5568947
No idea but I know I recognize it. I think it’s dwango5. It’s that western looking symmetrical map that looks like a plus sign

>> No.5569032

>>5568958
I thought it looked like something from Dwango5. It's crazy people are still playing those maps 25 years later. Well people still play the stock Doom 2 maps as well, but it's more impressive that usermade maps have that much longevity.

>> No.5569037

>>5567614
i like to set r_scale to 2 now to make the pixels a little chunkier, i tried 3 like another anon on here but it makes the enemies look too blocky

>> No.5569053

>>5566206
>>5566247
It's all shit.

>> No.5569058

>>5569032
I know, it’s insane isn’t it? I distinctly remember playing that map in doom95.exe in single player back when I was 7 or 8 years old and didn’t know how the internet really worked. I would roam around deathmatch maps wishing so badly I could experience it. I’m in my 30’s now and I’m still playing the same old shit! Will any other game ever have this kind of staying power you think?

>> No.5569108
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>play quake e1
>thoroughly clear e1m1-e1m4+8, killing everything and finding all the secrets
>reach e1m5
>instantly go full HUUH and rocket jump up to the quad, then again to the gold key door to finish the map in under a minute
every single time

>> No.5569162
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wut

>> No.5569171 [DELETED] 

>>5569162
>(Tormentor667)
What does this dude got against tormentor?

>> No.5569172

>>5569108
i've heard rumors that there's a secret tele up to the roof

>> No.5569174
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It's your bi-monthly reminder that Jedi Knight is the best shit.

>> No.5569178

>>5569174
Haven't played it since it came out. Was it fully optional to switch from first to third person, or was it third person melee/first person shooting?

>> No.5569179

>>5569174
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62UzLgdb1GQ

>> No.5569181

>>5569178
You can play the entire game in either mode, but it's generally best to switch to third with a saber, and stay in first person for shooting. Though, technically, online players are almost exclusively third person.

>> No.5569184

>>5569162
Self-explanatory.

>> No.5569194

>>5569174
Not a particularly appealing screenshot there

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>>5569194
The game isn't all that appealing unless you like old as shit 3D. Hell, the version of DirectX it uses isn't even compatible with modern drivers any more.

>> No.5569224

Whenever I try googling things about DOOM, I get results for D44M instead.
I fucking hate this.

>> No.5569259
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for the doomshock guy: I went back to that screen-to-world code I made way back when and made it work with the modern pixel stretching, so it now works no matter what your pitch is
turns out the part I was missing is that pitch also gets scaled by the pixel stretch ratio, so I had to do that as well to counteract it

I imagine if you care about it, you probably figured it out by now, but just in case you do and haven't, here it is
since you're working in zscript now, you can use level.pixelstretch instead of my hardcoded 6/5 and 5/6 ratios
http://jinotra.in/downloads/mods/doom/assorted/screenToWorld.pk3

>> No.5569268

>>5568632
gamergate, which is apparently relevant to this thread because reasons

the scapegoating and people who want to vaguely dance around things rather than actually talk about things is honestly real fucking annoying

>> No.5569274

>>5569259
Thanks a ton man! I never did solve it myself, but forum user "KeksDose" recently uploaded a zscript library that does handle both projection and deprojection in GL as well as software mode with pixel stretch.

>> No.5569275

>>5569259
ijon continues to be the best poster in these threads

mostly because he actually makes stuff

>> No.5569276

>>5569259
I've been thinking of making a lightgun mod for a while. Would it be all right if I used this as a basis?

>> No.5569281

>>5569276
go right ahead
I just updated it so that it works in zandronum as well, if that's useful to you
basically, if it detects zscript, it corrects for world stretching, and if it doesn't, it corrects for screen stretching. I don't know when gzdoom switched over, and it probably doesn't correspond with zscript's introduction, but eh, it's better than nothing

>> No.5569283

>>5569274
ah yeah I haven't even looked at how to do it in software, though off the top of my head it probably involves doing the calculations as if you're facing straight forward and just have the cursor WAY up/down the screen

>> No.5569294

>>5569283
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6wvlikzwfxzjtbn/kd_libeye.pk3?dl=0

Here's the guys thing if you want to take a look at it. Code is somewhat messy, but result is good :P

>> No.5569302

>>5569053
>anything but the EXACT way it came out in 1998 is shit

>> No.5569332

>>5568950
We might as well make different images for sections instead of trying it to cram it into one image

>> No.5569342

>>5568020
https://mobile.twitter.com/kinsie/status/1127471903675899905

>> No.5569356
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>>5569294
wasn't even necessary, handling the software renderer is surprisingly easy
since you already got a zscript library for this, you don't exactly need it, but for anyone else (especially anyone developing for zandronum), here it is, with support for zandronum-GL, gzdoom-GL/softpoly, and software rendering

http://jinotra.in/downloads/mods/doom/assorted/screenToWorld_alsoSoftware.pk3

>> No.5569362

>>5569356
Unrelated to to projection, but would you happen to have code for 3D springs laying around? Like for swingy rope or rubbed band constraints.

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rubber bands I mean.

>> No.5569374

>>5569362
I did mess with that sort of stuff... uh, eight years ago (wow, this shit's older than zandronum)
it's not much though, and what is there isn't very good, so I'm not keen on uploading it

>> No.5569381

>>5569374
Alright, that's fine. Don't have a pressing need for them atm.

>> No.5569461

>>5569276
Is there an (affordable) lightgun that works with LCDs? Last time I looked for them they were damn expensive and required additional detectors to be strapped onto a monitor.

>> No.5569489

>>5568094
>>5568057
I left a Quake server running for 10 years. after 4 years the bots on it stopped fighting and 8 years in they began to generate novel sentences and communicate
As you can see, we've still got a long way to go

>> No.5569491

>>5569356
>>5569362
>>5569374
Swingy ropes is one of my biggest desires for GZDoom.
So far all implementations of the Grappling hook/rope are just pulling player towards the impact point, not allowing him to swing on it at a fixed rope length.

What I want is something like in this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myTugOhiv9k

>> No.5569493

>>5569332
Why not make a website like tesgeneral?

>> No.5569503
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>>5569491
I have made some before, but they're using extremely bad and inefficient math. And also it didn't support elasticity.

>> No.5569527

>>5565940
install them on top of your normal Half-Life installation, and than use the "change game" option in the menu. Or create a shortcut for Half-Life, and put "-game gearbox/bshift" in the command section.

>> No.5569550

>>5567217
so is this like, System shock Doom?

>> No.5569564

>>5569550
Yeah. Not a 1:1 "port", just a gameplay mod inspired by it.

>> No.5569590

you know how the game kills you for going out of bounds? Well this is the same, the doors usually force you out of bounds, since they are literally moving walls.

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>>5566973
Why did Civvie use IDKFA for this scene on MAP08 when introducing the Meatballs?

>> No.5569605

>>5569174
Boy i fucking loved how vertical the levels were, half of them felt like scaling a tower or something.

>> No.5569614

>>5569564
i didn't expect a port, why would anyone bother porting SS to doom anyway?
So it will be just a basic gameplay mod, or will it have a mapset?
Also, will you pick up items by clicking on them?
Either way, i'm looking forward to it, i unironically like how OG System Shock played.

>> No.5569615

>>5569590
meant for >>5568345

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>>5569614
Just a gameplay mod. No monster replacements or alterations. In the unlikely event that someone wanted to do a mapset for it after release, I'd be happy to support them though.

>Also, will you pick up items by clicking on them?
Not right now, but you can open doors/activate switches by clicking. Clicky items should probably be cvar-dependent, since it'd allow you to break some maps by grabbing keys you're not supposed to be able to reach.

>> No.5569657

I have a bit on an issue with GZDoom
when I try to film some footage in OBS it just becomes a blurry mess when there is a lot of stuff going on, any idea what could be causing it?

>> No.5569668
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This healing spring is well appreciated in this pitch dark Palace Of Hate.

>> No.5569676

spent more time than I should've figuring out how to deal with the bar hud shrinking the viewport, but it works now
fuck sethudsize

http://jinotra.in/downloads/mods/doom/assorted/screenToWorld_barhud.pk3

>> No.5569685

>>5567608
I may as well ask this now then, how do I fix the problem with those fast imps appearing as gibs?

>> No.5569696

>>5569592
His recording the first time around on that level probably got fucked or was not very presentable, Likely he had to revisit the level to get some better footage but he couldn't be assed enough to do the entire level again.

>> No.5569712

>>5569174
>>5569196
There a way to play this comfortably on a modern pc yet? I remember last time I tried it had all sorts of issues.

>> No.5569716

At 40:32, we get the footage we've seen from the Stadia presentation of Doom Eternal but in a better quality, except for framerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdz4b5psrhE

>> No.5569724

>>5569268
I would rather they just not talk about it period. Keep that garbage outside of here. Allow it and you have /v/ turning into culture war central. This place is actually fucking good.

>> No.5569739

>>5569657
it's an issue in your OBS setup, it's primarily a streaming software, so it reduces quality in order to transfer data faster, set a higher bitrate, and it should be better.

>> No.5569747

>>5569668
>that texture misalignment

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>>5569716
The shield shotgunner seems to be wearing black armor and appears to be bold, much like his original design.

>> No.5569760

>>5569747
Cry more

>> No.5569773

Civvie is the best DoomTuber

>> No.5569825

>>5569747
>>5569760
it's a concave structure.

>> No.5569834

>>5569773
Every Civvie video in a nutshell:

>All in a monotone voice:
>In this level there's a bunch of these assholes who do this thing
>All you gotta do is this thing and you should be good to go
>Don't forget to grab an X on your way to Y
>This next level super hard and I like it that way because I'm "le old school FPS player"
>Here's a random piece of trivia about this game
>Rinse and repeat through the rest of the video

Civvie is proof that retro FPS fags are just as bad as normal-fags in that they'll watch some below average or bad content simply because it is related to something they enjoy.

>> No.5569839

>>5569834
Then give us some recs you fag

>> No.5569846

>>5569834
Does that mean you start your own retro series without all these flaws?!

>> No.5569848

Hey /vr/, /v/ is bitching about how it's somehow unprecedented to replace Commander Keen with celebrities or politicians by modders. Can I just get a short list of every single thing that Commander Keen has been replaced with?

>> No.5569852

>>5569747
There's a few here and there in Quake. Mind how the game was basically rushed into what it would become.

>>5569760
Don't be such a bitch.

>>5569773
He's better than Icarus and GGGMan, a lot better, and he's bearable, but there's room for improvement.

>> No.5569857

>>5569834
You know I can enjoy his content but still be highly critical of him and disagree with him?

>> No.5569872

>>5569839
I don't watch eceleb faggots. Occasionally Icarus not because I enjoy his content but just to see if there is a decent mod every few months.

>>5569846
Why does that imply I would do anything like that, retard?

>>5569857
I never mentioned anything about disagreeing with him. The point of that post was to show how fucking boring he is as a content producer. You know how Super Mario parodies that are just awful use the unoriginal "dude Mario on drugs cuz shrooms" joke? That's Civvie but for retro FPS games. The same boring, done a million times formula

>> No.5569880

>>5569712
There are guides for the steam and GoG version. The only big thing you'll need to do is grabbing DGVoodoo, and finding the LOD mod.

>> No.5569885

>>5569848
Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxC14NXcboQ

>> No.5569898

>>5569885
lol. Vasyan wins again? >>>/v/461900448

How to promote a mod? Make people talk about "SJW propaganda" in it.

>> No.5569908

>>5569848
space hunter has mario
demonsteele has a dakimakura
complex doom has dsp
brutal doom had justin bieber
metadoom has characters from pre wolfenstein id games
ancient aliens had those flying skull things that shoot homing rockets
scythe 2 had the afrits
tnt revilution had sentries that shoot rockets i think
rebirth had mario

>> No.5569909

Whats the doom mod that adds weaponsets for popular megawads? Like there was a set for ancient aliens japanese community project etc.

Basically I'm just looking for non OP weapon packs like high noon drifter and combined arms

>> No.5569912

>>5569909
final doomer

>> No.5569919

>>5569885
Not only did he make Doom look like shit, he politicized it.

>> No.5569924

>>5569885
>>5569898
>>5569919
You done promoting and samefagging your awful epic troll mod yet, slavic subhuman? Or is someone going to have to finish for you?

>> No.5569926

>>5569503
Please post it, even if its just a prototype.
Never saw proper swinging done in ZDoom before, even if its inefficient

>> No.5569930

>>5569834
>>5569872
ok faggot nice flapping your gums. truly appreciated.

>> No.5569931

>>5569924
the fuck your are talking about you spaz

>> No.5569934
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I probably said this before but is it possible for an enemy in a mod to "blur" the player's vision, even if the player's character and weapons aren't part of the same mod as the enemy?
I know Colorfull Hell has some "blinding" enemies but they're mostly non ranged creatures that attack themselves to you (that worm and the "beetlejuice").
I think Combined Harms did had a "blinding" Caco but it's more of a flash grenade kinda thing.

>> No.5569936 [DELETED] 

>>5569872
Do it better or shut up, nobody.

>> No.5569937

>>5569872
>eceleb

Confirmed utter spastic.

>> No.5569938

>>5569934
Also, said CH creatures just slap a color to your screen, so it's fully grey/green but i don't think it covers the player's HUD.

>> No.5569949

>>5569834
>here's a list of things that are bad just because I listed them out.

>> No.5569954

>>5569908
there was also someone's randomizer mod that replaced him with one of the ddlc characters

>> No.5569956
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>>5569834
Alrighty then

>> No.5569963

Hi I need help, do you guys know a way to use custom difficulty of Brutal Doom in multiplayer ?

In my case i would like to play coop with my friends with the realism mode.

>> No.5569967

>>5569885

this is has to be a reupload, i coulda swore he already put out a video like this.

>> No.5569970

>>5569963
i know i've seen a post abou bd co-op in the doom subrebbit but that is it

>> No.5569972

>>5569930
>>5569936
>"hai guize I'm gonna spam muh shitty eceleb over and over again"
>he's actually pretty fucking boring and here's why
>"reee do it better or fuck off"

>>5569949
monotone voice for 20 minutes isn't bad
>repetitive formula that you can see in just 1 of his videos isn't bad
>eceleb spamming isn't bad
Nice tastes.

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>>5569885
24/7 RENT FREE

>> No.5569980

>>5569970
I checked reddit before but didn"t find any solution but i know it's possible since in my research i found a shitty youtuber who played realisme mod in coop

>> No.5569983

>>5569972
it's a game review show you fucking autist. complaining that your average youtuber follows an established formula is like complaining about rain falling downwards. what do you expect him to do, jump through a hogshead on fire as he speedruns through every map without commentary?

>> No.5569984

>>5569972
OK, so you vented your frustration. Don't let us hang just like that. Give us something to work with.

>> No.5569985

>>5569972
>t-they hated jesus b-becuz...

>> No.5569994

>>5569972
you're only listing out his characteristics and doing that alone isn't elaborating on why his content is bad, just that it isn't to your tastes. same goes for excusing your pedantic tirade behind spam accusations. people can and will talk about things you don't like, you'll get through it eventually, I have faith that you will.

>> No.5570004

>>5569972
Why are people who constantly complain about e-celebs so fucking annoying?

>> No.5570025

>>5569724
i would rather take that over passive-aggressive vagueing t b h

>> No.5570027

> eceleb
ok, you heard the man
kinsie, marisa, enjay, term, ijon, johnny, kodi, kegan, jimmy, captain j, gaa1992, keksdose, marrub
you aren't literal nobodies, so you're not allowed anymore
door is that way

>> No.5570039 [DELETED] 

>>5570025
Of course a piece of shit like you would.

Door's that way shitter, don't let it hit you in your syphilitic cunt, crackhead.

>> No.5570041

>>5570039
man, you instantly turned real hostile

>> No.5570060

>>5569983
>>5569994
He sounds like an awkward nerd trying to show his first date in years what's so special about his favorite vidya. It doesn't entice you to wanna listen to more. It's just a step by step run through of everything that's in the game. His random bits of trivia are decent enough. As for "review", not even that. Like I said, it's a barely tolerable Sparknotes version of each level. Either he should stick to a full on walkthrough/Let's Play with commentary/highlights or just start listing of random trivia facts.

>> No.5570062

>>5570060
It works better for games like blood where he shows off the asshole traps. Not that his commentary is even remotely relative to someone actually playing the game since he knows where all the secrets are.

>> No.5570065

Is there a way to have the functionality of Wadsmoosh but on more accurate source ports like chocolate and prboom.

>> No.5570072

Don't feed the attention-whore.

>> No.5570078

>>5570060
quick, run to every subscriber he has and tell them they're enjoying the wrong thing

>> No.5570081

>>5570078
Well, if those subscribers spamfuck his shitty channel on the other sites I use as bad as /vr/ and /v/ then I'll go ahead

>> No.5570098

>>5570081
you're already a confirmed autist over here so go make others aware of your condition asap.

>> No.5570101

>>5569503
Reminds me of the beam weapon thingy from U4E 2004. Man that was fun as hell to use. You could catapult yourself across maps in an instant.

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>>5570041
That wasn't me, that was some random guy. While I agree that the passive aggressive shit isn't helping (see the whackjob who got his post deleted) I think the topic should be avoided entirely. /v/ is a complete cesspit of garbage posts and garbage arguments all fucking day in an endless cycle. Not even the memes are funny anymore. The only reason anyone goes there anymore is out of habit. I would genuinely rather have people making snide hit and runs that get banned for it over full blown political shitflinging. Especially after using cripplechan for a while, I've come to loathe all political/dramaposters entirely.

>> No.5570107

>>5570104
my mistake, then

>> No.5570109

>>5570107
Nah it's cool bro. The singular thing I want from cripplechan is post IDs for situations like that. I can't fault you for mistaking him for me and vice versa.

>> No.5570115

>>5570081
what a buffoon.

>> No.5570118

>>5570109
I'm the guy who made the "syphilitic cunt" post, sorry for that.

> The singular thing I want from cripplechan is post IDs for situations like that.

That *could* work, though the only boards that use it on here are /b/, /int/, /bant/ and I think /pol/ so I don't know what the reception would be.

>> No.5570124

>>5570118
It would fucking instantly improve this website as a whole to have it sitewide. I seriously cannot put into words how fucking awful boards like /ck/ have become from all the spergy political shitposting. You can't even bring it up casually in the thread or else a fuckton of people come in spamming shit. I just wanted to learn how to cook weird meals and laugh at webms not talk about DURR MUH DRANNIES DURRRRRR WIBBERALS all fucking day. Being able to filter those retards by ID would be a fucking blessing.

>> No.5570145

>it's the muh poster IDs guy again

>> No.5570228

>>5570124
/a/ is full of that too can't talk about a female warrior or even a barely competent girl without wawe of monkey spaming shit about mary sue and feminism

>> No.5570230

I wonder what kind of enemies will be in Eternal.

>> No.5570235

>>5570124
t. discord user

>> No.5570249
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5570249

tch tch tch tch

>> No.5570259

>>5570124
4chan is anonymous, if you don't like it you can leave for someplace which isn't, like Reddit.

>> No.5570293

>>5570101
My personal inspiration was Tribes: Vengeance and Corkscrew for Q3A. The combination of skiing, jetpacks and a swingy grapple in the former was glorious.
>>5569926
I want to make a new version some day, and will be sure to post it then.

>> No.5570295
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5570295

Any blood map where I Can blow up these fuckers by the hundreds? It's satisfying af

>> No.5570306

>>5570295
Temple.map. There's so fucking many that it causes the game to crash if you blow up certain hordes with a napalm launcher, because there's too many sprites at once.

>> No.5570320

>>5569685
The shadow imps never appeared to me as gibs... had no idea it was a problem.

>> No.5570323

>>5570306
you mean 'the lost temple' right? http://blood.freeminded.de/index.php?section=maps&id=124

>> No.5570331
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5570331

>>5569747
>>5569825

>> No.5570335

>>5570259
Eat shit. Faggots like you are the reason this site was allowed to get this bad.
If not for retards like you justifying every shitty thing about this site with "at least we're not plebbit/gamefaqs/gaia!" then this place might still exist in the next five years.

>> No.5570336

>>5570331
Wasting this much time with your pentagram when you could be killing the shambler and fiends.

>> No.5570347

>>5570335
lol

>> No.5570350

>>5569716
I like doomguy's
>ah~
when he gets hit midair.

>> No.5570351
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>>5570335
Use a tripcode if it bothers you.

>>5570336
It was just running out by then. Also the deal with the pentagram is that even if it absorbs damage, that damage will still eat away at your armor. I had a fresh new red armor and wasn't interested in wasting it.

>> No.5570356

>>5570335
fuck off if you don't like it lol dumb newfags

>> No.5570360

>>5570351
wait until enemies are piled up including the shamblers, grab pentagram and mow them down and explode them
then grab red armor
actually, always make the red armor wait until the end of the level when you're about to leave so you come in with it fresh on the next one. Just use yellow armor to do your dirty work until then.

Same deal with doom and the blue armor and spare soulspheres, megasphere.

>> No.5570367

>Try nblood after buying and playing fresh supply
>the movement is so much better compared to the sliding feel I get in the former
what the fuck Kaiser?

>> No.5570368

>>5570367
Kex is the hammer to every nail Kaiser encounters.

>> No.5570369

>>5570367
Actually it may be the renderer too, I swap to openGL from directx11 in fresh supply, and everything feels way tighter, not quite as tight as nblood though...

>> No.5570371
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>>5570360
Generally, I do that, but I had mostly cleared the level by that point, and just grabbed the Pentagram I had missed.

>>5570367
I think he just didn't try hard enough.

>> No.5570378
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5570378

Spawns were alright on Easy, tolerable on Medium, but on Hard they're just fucking awful.

>> No.5570382

>>5570323
Yep

>> No.5570384 [DELETED] 

>>5570259
Being anonymous only has value morally here. It doesn't have any other kind of value. You're still anonymous with a thread-specific post ID. It curbs on shitposting and lets you mute people who are sperging out, like >>5570335. The biggest problem with this site as a whole is that anyone can just sit and false flag another group (/v/ has people who samefag ultra fucking hard and false flag like every side in a debate at once to cause a huge shitfest) and royally fuck discussion. The users of this site clearly aren't smart enough to not reply to that garbage.

If the addition of post IDs is so fucking egregious to you that it might ruin your weird idealistic view of a website that's in clear need of social moderation, one that eroded it's own rules and moral values by letting banned people still browse the site, then that's your problem, but you shouldn't downplay the issue. You and I can both agree there's a problem with shitposting, and too many mods/too iron fist of rules will break it. The only solution, as far as I can understand, is post IDs.

>> No.5570391
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5570391

sweet mother mary finally

>> No.5570392

>>5570384
Anon, shut the fuck up.

>> No.5570394

>>5570392
Not an argument.

>> No.5570395

>>5569302
That's not what I said either. NewDark is a good update. Even an upressed texture pack would be great if they didn't just photosource every texture to look different, and stuck with a consistent style. It's just that every single high res or high def pack for thief so far has been more-or-less shit.
Maybe someday someone will finish a decent pack, but that day hasn't come.

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>>5570384
>The users of this site clearly aren't smart enough to not reply to that garbage.
They used to be.

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5570398

This level has a cruel level of Spawns on Hard, there's like fucking 8 of them or something in this final room.

>>5570391
How much frag was in the air to make Go 2 It's monster count shoot up that high?

>> No.5570401

>>5570356
Go home, Goon.

>> No.5570402

>>5570398
More like how many arch-viles were going around resurrecting everyone I'd just killed.

>> No.5570414

>>5570402
Oh right.

>> No.5570434
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5570434

What is this mysterious orb?

>> No.5570439

>>5570394
He's not arguing, he just wants you to shut the fuck up.

>> No.5570459

>>5570391
absloute mad

>>5570434
its just a light
reused sprite from early dev stage, instead of a 3d model or geometry
can't exactly put torches under water

>> No.5570470
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5570470

I couldn't get any good screenshots, but this Spawn got into a fight with a Vore, and that just made me giddy with glee.

>> No.5570475

hey guys
i got an idea
> lost souls that behave like the spawn
> except also flying

>> No.5570487
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5570487

civvie did a Fresh Supply video

please get all of your complaints out of the way before we make the next thread

>> No.5570490

>>5570367
BloodEx is locked to 30 fps by default. For a better experience it has to be changed. Also movement and mouselook is better in BloodEx than in those slav ports.

>> No.5570497

>>5570487
Did Civvie misunderstand what the run bug is?

>> No.5570498

>>5570490
What does the "max fps" setting do then? nothing?

>> No.5570507

>>5570497
enlighten me

>> No.5570509
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5570509

Infighting is just the best, you guys.

>> No.5570512

>>5570507
https://twitter.com/SVKaiser/status/1127134150161588224?s=19

>> No.5570547

eduke32 or megaton edition? own megaton on steam

>> No.5570549

>>5570475
You stop that.

>> No.5570560

>>5570547
EDuke32. You can use the Megaton files with it.

>> No.5570580
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5570580

MetaDoom has a different scope for the Gauss cannon, which is more faithfull.

>> No.5570581

>>5569885
BASED

>> No.5570605

>>5569716
Somebody should archive the gameplay part of this video just in case.

>> No.5570612

>>5570398
Quad
Ring Of Shadows too I think
this area is supposed to be easy as long as you dont get hung up on anything

>> No.5570629

>>5570509
There's gotta be a better way to capture footage you fucking boomer.

Record capture your footage then convert it to Webms

>> No.5570634

how do I remove the texture filter in half life with xash3d?

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5570668

So this happens as I do in old Shubby, a Vore spawns in next to me, and it absolutely spergs out, fidgeting back and forth and screaming in pain.

>>5570612
I managed to deal with it fine, after dying once, but I just fucking hated how many Spawns were on that one map.

>> No.5570672

The temple map for blood is fucking awesome desu thanks to the guy who suggested it, I'll try sorting by rating to find some more fun maps from that site

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>>5570668
Eventually it just dies.

>> No.5570689

>>5570547
Megaton is fine, really.

>> No.5570690

>>5570509
OBS + webm for retards.
Do that, I recommend.

>> No.5570691

https://youtu.be/qdz4b5psrhE?t=2432
that slayer really sounds like he's packed on the pounds, jesus

>> No.5570694

>>5570668
>>5570674
so sad

>> No.5570698

>>5570690
That'd mean I would have to either keep recording all the time, filling up my harddrive, or that I would have to stop what I'm doing and make recordings.

I take screenshots spontaneously.

>> No.5570708

>>5570698
there's a record video toggle you can bind to a key. just keep the program open and it should work.

>> No.5570728

>>5570634
>how do I remove the texture filter in half life with xash3d?

Enable console:
hl -console
Enable texture nearest:
gl_texture_nearest 1

>> No.5570729

>>5570668
at the bottom of the green pit?
before you trigger the scooper to push you in the pit fire a couple grenades, let the spawns start piling up near the bottom, and then toss a few more in there. Get SNG out for any remainders.
And for the ones out in the starter room its best just not to fire your gun at all and sorta lead them somewhere else, you take a few whacks but its better than dealing with them there.
>>5570629
>>5570708
there is? where are the options for the video recording?

>> No.5570748

>>5570729
>before you trigger the scooper to push you in the pit fire a couple grenades, let the spawns start piling up near the bottom, and then toss a few more in there. Get SNG out for any remainders.
That's pretty much what ended up happening actually, made it surprisingly more easy.

For the last blue room, I think I just got lucky on my second try blasting frantically at the bouncing bastards, and they blew up somewhere which wasn't my face.

>> No.5570769

>>5569773
He is good but decino is better imo

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>>5570729
in OBS

>> No.5570774

>>5569834
don't forget he is shit at playing the games he reviews too

>> No.5570775

>>5570728
alright thanks, sorry for the late reply
what about the fps counter though?

>> No.5570779

>>5570770
oh yeah this is the one. haven't opened OBS in months so I'm talking out my dick

>> No.5570780

>>5570729
>>5570770
Use shadow play if Nvidia, obs compression is dogshit

>> No.5570789

>>5570780
I have AMD
Also what is OBS ive never heard of it
And I play quakespasm and prboom+

>> No.5570791

>>5570774
ironically enough you raised the only valid point any of you could've made lmao

and even then it's not that big of a deal because his criticisms on the games he talks about are sensible for the most part and resonate pretty well with his audience.

>> No.5570797

>>5570769
Decino definitely goes more into weird little interesting details of the game. He has an oddly quiet and 'low energy' presentation though.

>> No.5570803

>>5570780
you're still gonna have to crunch down output resolution for webm conversion, so.

>> No.5570804

I eagerly await anons wholesome boomer adventures video clips.

What game you playing next, clip anon?

>> No.5570807

>>5570691
>idtech 7 ditching megatextures
Cool.

>> No.5570845

>>5569491
>>5569503
Titanfall Doom when.
I want to rodeo a Cyberdemon or Spidermind and magdump into their heads

>> No.5570860

Just found a glitch in the Blood remaster, if you used a medkit after dying you can walk around again but you won't be able to use any weapons.

>> No.5570870

>>5570860
Some guy reported that on the bug thread

>> No.5570874

>>5570870
I'm looking forward to the first update desu. I like this remaster but there's some things that still need to be fixed.

>> No.5570881

>>5570874
Some one bought me it after I hyped it up in a chat room I'm in, feel kinda guilty that it's turned out not finished so I don't play it much, think every one WANTS it to be good, hopefully kaiser delivers

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5570903

>>5570807
does that mean...
mod support on the way?

>> No.5570906

>>5569491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrQjrxK40t4
I still want to make a quake mapset based around this

>> No.5570909

>>5570691
reminds me of the tone he had in doom 64. he did sound deeper in the voice

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>>5570906
THOSE COLORS

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>>5570903
I remember reading that id wanted to do mod support as well as DLC in place of snapmap. Plus, they also mentioned Rage 2 (i know i know not retro) having mod support at some point (specifically they said it wouldn't be available on launch). Seeing id's codeveloping Rage 2 and judging by their supposed plans for it regarding mod support, I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to use it and Doom Eternal as a means to re-embrace the mod scene.

but if thats not true then me have smul wee wee hee hee

>> No.5570970

10 years ago

"Oh wow, Skulltag online? Let's see what I can play!"
>Bossbattles
>Ghouls vs Humans
>Random class based wads
>Doom Base Zone
>Jumpmaze
>Random weapon wads
>Custom community made maps
>Survival on notoriously hard wads like Plutonia, Hell Revealed 2, and so on
>All Out War 2

"Oh, Zandronum is a thing? Shit, what's it running?"

>LOL MM8BDM BUT WITH EVEN WORSE BALANCE
>LOL GHOULS VS HUMANS BUT WITH SOMEHOW WORSE BALANCE
>LOL BRUTAL DOOM ALIEN VENDETTA 1 LIFE SURVIVAL
>LOL CHILLAX WITH INSTANT KILL GUNS
>LOL COMPLEX DOOM + LCA + CF + JGNB + JHASDFJH + OWCNHF

Fuck Zandronum and fuck the Zandronum community

>> No.5570976

>>5570970
>not just playing through megawads with your friends in chocolate/crispy doom

>> No.5570980

>>5570976
>friends
what

>> No.5570982

>>5570976
But I wanna play creative shit instead of the same five fucking megawads and the same five fucking gameplay mods. I fucking hate the Zandronum community so much.

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>>5570970
Time to take the Edpill.

>> No.5571008

>>5570985
I do and I fucking love HD

>> No.5571017

>>5570970
I think the real problem with Zandronum is that there aren't as many people playing as before and the only people left only really want to play the stuff you mentioned. Sometimes I managed to get a few people to join a DBZone server and play for a little while, but it never lasted for long.

It's a shame to see what it's become, especially considering that Skulltag is what got me REALLY into Doom 10 years ago, since I discovered so many WADs through it, back when there was actual variety in the stuff being played and new WADs constantly being made for it.

I guess we'll just have to see if Zandronum 4.0 changes anything, though I honestly kinda doubt it will.

>> No.5571018

This probably wont be a good influence to post it but it reminded me of pistol grip sprites.
(automag III in .30 carbine)

https://youtu.be/gzSpN5Etw-g?t=512

>> No.5571037

>>5570970
>boss battles
shit
>ghouls vs humans
shit
>doom base zone
shit
>all out war 2
shit

the only people who actually prefer skulltag are blinded by nostalgia and would complain even if skulltag was still active

>> No.5571042

>>5570487
Sure, ok. Not retro.

>> No.5571043

>>5570985
wait who's ed

>> No.5571047

>>5570982
Will this all come to an end if GZDoom finally gets decent netcode?
>so never

>> No.5571054

>>5571037
>Doom Base Zone
>All Out War 2
>Bossbattles
>Shit
Your taste might be shit, but those wads sure aren't. GVH is dogshit, no brainer though. Anything from Cutman Mike is undercooked, boring trash, from Ghouls Forest to MM8BSnorefest.

>> No.5571058

>>5570970
>>Survival on notoriously hard wads like Plutonia, Hell Revealed 2, and so on
It's such a shame because given the more advanced stuff Zandybam can run over Skulltag, this kind of survival shit could be REALLY fun and intense.

>> No.5571064

>>5571043
The former maintainer of G/ZDoom's netcode. He used to get ridiculously defensive of his work, especially if it was compared to Zandronum.

>> No.5571067

>I don't know what didgeridoobies Gman was smoking

Damn, Civvie's a savage. Nice snipe there on his Blood remaster review. I also thought it was fishy that Gmanlives would release a full video on it right as the game dropped. Probably got paid to give it a glowing review

>> No.5571071

>>5571064
what an idiot

So what's wrong with GZDoom's netcode?
Besides the fact that it doesn't work?

>> No.5571084

>>5571067
I doubt he did. Gman is notorious for making the most basic of judgments on a game and being incredibly uncritical. Has he been paid before? Absolutely. Would Nightdive pay him of all people to give good reviews of the port, while Kaiser also admits the port is of low quality and that he's going to fix it? Probably not.

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>>5571071
It's Peer 2 Peer, so it runs like shit, and it has retardedly narrow margins for error, with little actual interface, requiring you to type shit up manually like you're installing something in a DOS prompt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7x2Vn2qhCA

It's not user friendly and it's not efficient.
Ednerd now works at Nightdive, which might explain why people struggle to get Fresh Supply's multiplayer to work.

>> No.5571124

>>5571091
So basically the more players, the worse.
Since it's peer 2 peer

>> No.5571132

>>5571124
Yeah.
Mind that Skulltag had reliable and easy to use multiplayer over a decade ago.
Mind ZDaemon has for even longer.

>> No.5571147

>>5571067
>review
Didn't seem like a review. More a critique.
I imagine Kaiser will attempt to fix most of these problems. Seems rushed tbqhfam.

>> No.5571160

>>5571091
GZDoom's netcode has gotten a lot better lately, actually. I've managed to have a 7 player hideous destructor coop session without any major lag or netcode hiccups before, and it went surprisingly smoothly

>> No.5571161

The port problem. Community people (using community tech?) trying to whip up a good solution with insufficient manpower in a short amount of time. Hope it paid well enough to keep him working on it.

>> No.5571162

>>5571161
>Fresh Supply

>> No.5571193

>>5571054
>Your taste might be shit, but those wads sure aren't.
>actually defending AoMeme2

>> No.5571208

>>5571193
>not liking C&C renegade but with more content

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5571347

The idea of a paid discord makes me want to hurl

>> No.5571378

>>5571347
It's a bit off.
But whatever. Dude needs money. If that's something people are willing to pay for, fuckin let them I guess.

>> No.5571384

>>5571042
>Not retro
?????

>> No.5571395

>>5571378
If he wanted people to pay just for custom music or custom maps or something, whatever. But the whole paid pseudo-social interaction and being rewarded with unfinished music is cringeworthy.

>> No.5571406

>>5571395
I agree. Though he's gotta do what he can do help entice people to give him patreon bux, so I can't blame him. He makes good music and if you really wanted to contact him you could just do it directly.

>> No.5571534

New thread.

>>5571531
>>5571531
>>5571531

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>>5571347
>for just $10 he'll do an all new music track
That's actually tempting.
Once I have better income and once I start doing some mapping, I think I would probably be interested in this.

>> No.5572327

>>5570698
Use replay buffer on OBS. You can save ypur last minute with a click and then cut a webm out of the interesting parts.

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