/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5562602]

Remember when Game mag covers had SOUL?

[Anonymous No.5562610]

I do

[Anonymous No.5562617]

yep

[Anonymous No.5562625]

>>5562610

Hiring an original artist gives game mags so much character and soul. Towards the later half of the 90's, game mags started to feature more and more just promo shots from games themselves or computer graphics.

Ironically, the original art gives the magazine a much more professional look to it, and makes it unique.

Only a few PC-Engine Fan mags are scanned, but they're all really pretty. Super Play had a similar art style too.

[Anonymous No.5562631]

>>5562602

SOULLESS

[Anonymous No.5562789]

>>5562602
anime = SOUL?

[Anonymous No.5562793]

>>5562631

>SOULLESS POLYGONS

[Anonymous No.5562802]

>>5562789
Yes. You've figured it out.

[Anonymous No.5562805]

>>5562789
Not all anime is SOUL, look at /a/'s catalogue.

[Anonymous No.5562808]

>>5562617
>PS2's Zelda Killer
>Dark Cloud

[Anonymous No.5562816]

>>5562808
>Move over, Link...
I still always wanted to play Dark Cloud because the music is by the same composer from God Hand and No More Heroes.
Maybe I'll just download the OST.

[Anonymous No.5562852]

>>5562808
>Ignores the sexy bikini girl to whine about nintendo
What a fucking faggot you are.

[Anonymous No.5562859]

>>5562602
>Remember when Game mag

Are there any gaming magazines still in publication?

[Anonymous No.5562868]

>>5562859
There's Game Informer and Retro Gamer Magazine. I'm pretty sure I've seen PC Gaming magazines around still as well.

[Anonymous No.5562874]

>>5562602
>remember when there were no zoomers in the world?
Fondly

[Anonymous No.5562904]

>>5562859
I'm pretty sure I'd find some if I looked at the huge rack at Micro Center

[Anonymous No.5562947]

>>5562625

How in the hell was there a PCE mag in bloody 1996? That's a bloody glorified 8-bit system meant to compete with the Famicom! That's after the Saturn, PlayStation, and N64! What would you even be talking about that late?!

[Anonymous No.5562961]

>>5562859

There's a few. Several of the old print mags around the world are still running, though they're the exception. The Games Machine (Italy), Famitsu, Dengeki, (Japan), Maniac (Germany).

Japan has an incredibly healthy print culture, so I don't think Famitsu will ever die. It's one of the things I'm jealous of. You can buy cheap magazines with half girls in bikinis, and the other half comics.

[Anonymous No.5562993]

Love finding these obscure third world game mags.

>>5562859

Post more SOUL.

[Anonymous No.5562994]

>>5562617
>metal gear 2

[Anonymous No.5563002]

>>5562789
>anime = SOUL?

Not neccesarily. Let's rank these.

>>5562631
>promo CGI

Soul level 0. This is anti-soul. No originality, thought, or charm.

>>5562993
>badly traced game art

Soul level 4. They're at least trying.

>>5562617
>original but amateur drawings

Soul level 6. Getting close.

>>5562610
>original scene based on the game that's drawn well

Soul level 8. High SOUL.

>>5562602
>>5562625

>detailed well drawn cheerful character

Soul level 10.

I hope this clears things up.

[Anonymous No.5563058]

>>5562993
>Post more SOUL.

[Anonymous No.5563072]

>>5563058

Is that woman just like the PC Engine mascot? What the hell game are they even trying to sell?

>June 1996

I don't see that on retrocdn. Where'd you get that?
https://retrocdn.net/Category:PC_Engine_Fan_scans

[Anonymous No.5563105]

>>5563072
>Is that woman just like the PC Engine mascot? What the hell game are they even trying to sell?

The anime girl is named Mana, and she is just the mascot for the magazine and would appear in most of the covers. The character is not affiliated with NEC or the PCEngine.

>>5563072
>I don't see that on retrocdn. Where'd you get that?
>https://retrocdn.net/Category:PC_Engine_Fan_scans

I think I found them on Google image search. They have been sitting on my HDD for a while, so I don't remember the search criteria used. Probably something like "PC Engine Fan covers", or something like it.

[Anonymous No.5563119]

>>5563105

Will we ever get anime girls like that again? Adult human proportions, proper height while still having some big eyes. Age wise she looks early 20's.

Modern anime girls are moe-blobs, and even "adult" characters have big round child like heads and look like they're 4'11.

[Anonymous No.5563127]

>>5563105

Retro mags has a bunch of the covers, but only a handful of full scans.

https://www.retromags.com/gallery/category/396-pc-engine-fan/

[Anonymous No.5563328]

hobby consolas still works in Spain

[Anonymous No.5563541]

>>5562961
>The Games Machine (Italy)

Oh no no no no

[Anonymous No.5563593]

>>5562789
Pre-2000's anime is.

[Anonymous No.5563637]

>>5563105
>The anime girl is named Mana, and she is just the mascot for the magazine

Die Hard GameFan magazine had a mascot of their own, that appeared on all the earlier covers. The character's name is like "Monituar", or something, and was a weird blue muscle guy with a CRT for a head. Pretty sure they took the idea from Japanese mags. Even Famitsu has that wolf/ dog/ fox mascot.

[Anonymous No.5563645]

>>5563127
>Retro mags has a bunch of the covers, but only a handful of full scans.

Oh, that's probably where I found them originally.

[Anonymous No.5563657]

Japanese game mag covers are still pretty fun even now.

[Anonymous No.5563674]

>>5562617
Based Regina poster, that redhead slut is a semen demon

[Anonymous No.5563702]

>>5562602
Oh my G-d she is so cute I think I'm in love. Definitely 100% soul.

[Anonymous No.5563713]

[Anonymous No.5563761]

>>5563645

[Anonymous No.5563861]

So, this is secretly just a retro weeb tits magazine thread? Nice, post more.

[Anonymous No.5565018]

Bump.
>>5563761
Nice.

[Anonymous No.5565623]

https://magazinesfromthepast.fandom.com/wiki/GamesMaster

[Anonymous No.5565849]

>>5562947
Judging from the titles on the cover, it was turning into a PC-FX magazine.

[Anonymous No.5565874]

>>5563713
Every Famitsu cover by Susumu Matsushita is kino. That is not up for debate.

[Anonymous No.5565941]

>>5565874
Dat ass

[Anonymous No.5565951]

Japan will lewd anything even sheep girls

[Anonymous No.5565956]

>>5565951
Yes i realize thats a bunny girl

[Anonymous No.5565983]

>>5563713
>>5565874

Did he work on Maximo? Because those look like the girls in Maximo. He has a very Disney/cartoony style that's not typical as a japanese style.

[Anonymous No.5566014]

bumping for retro anime ass and tits

[Anonymous No.5566026]

>>5565983
yup, and his uniqueness is probably why famitsu got as popular as it has

[Anonymous No.5566087]

>>5562602
I remember when soul wasn't a stupid overdone meme

[Anonymous No.5566210]

Anyone remember incite Magazine? This thing was literally trying to be Maxim for games, and anime, and geek culture stuff. But it did it a Hollywood vibe. Like they would take lesser celebrities and do all these articles. It was a weird 'zine, but I kinda respected the editors for doing something different.

[Anonymous No.5566226]

"FREE PC game demo disc CD, Jerri Ryan photoshoot images, $1.99 - sure why not? As I said to my 12 year old self. Man, they were really grasping straws with this idea. .

[Anonymous No.5566228]

"FREE PC game demo disc CD, Jerri Ryan photoshoot images, $1.99 - sure why not? As I said to my 12 year old self. Man, they were really grasping straws with this idea. .

[Anonymous No.5566379]

>>5566228
>>5566210

I think I may have heard of it in the context of someone explaining it was trying to be Maxim for games.

Has anyone scanned them?

[Anonymous No.5566441]

imo, this cover of MSX Magazine is the greatest jp /vr/ cover ever.

[Anonymous No.5566471]

>>5562602
Yeah nice, shiny pictures...but gaming "journalism" sucked then as much as it sucks now.

[Anonymous No.5566602]

>>5566210
>>5566228
One of my work colleagues used to buy this, it was terrible mag, filled with mindless titillation.

Bit like "Loaded" was, but without the humour

[Anonymous No.5566632]

[Anonymous No.5566701]

>>5563593

[Anonymous No.5566763]

>>5566701
i know this is ironic, but this perfectly encapsulates what's wrong with the anime industry.

[Anonymous No.5566774]

>>5566763
That 'flavor of the month' shit is rushed out for a buck? They did that since the beginning.
Gorgeous animation was always a rare treat.

[Anonymous No.5566846]

>>5562602

[Anonymous No.5566853]

[Anonymous No.5566891]

[Anonymous No.5566921]

>>5566846

Is anyone gonna scan Super Play in not shit quality?

[Anonymous No.5566947]

>>5563119
>it's another retard who hasn't watched anime since adult swim aired cow boy beep boop
I know everything you're gonna say

[Anonymous No.5566974]

>>5562617
I want to go back to this time in my life so bad.

[Anonymous No.5566989]

>>5562859
THE SOUL LEVELS ARE TOO HIGH I CAN'T TAKE IT

[Anonymous No.5567061]

ITT: brainwashed commodity fetishists who think that consumerism ever had something like "soul".

like seriously, some corporation just hired someone to draw some lowest common denominator shit slavishly following the current fashions. the only purpose is to sell shit. it doesn't have a single bit of "soul" that the present day counterparts don't.
I'd call it nostalgia, but somehow I have a feeling that most of you weren't even born back then.

[Anonymous No.5567179]

>>5562947
>seething this much
lmao

[Anonymous No.5567186]

>>5567061
But it's old so it must be good. The contrarian man told me so. It makes him feel warm and fuzzy because it has childhood nostalgia so he spends every day telling himself there's something objective to justify it when he really just desperately chases nostalgia to fill his emptiness and childish bitterness towards the world.

[Anonymous No.5567196]

>>5566602
What's wrong with that? Are you a homosexual?

[Anonymous No.5567218]

>>5567061
>I'd call it nostalgia
What's wrong with that? Are you a homosexual?

[Anonymous No.5567223]

>>5567218
try reading the entire sentence you quoted from retard

[Anonymous No.5567225]

>>5567061
>You will never be that bitter at life

Feels good not being you.

[Anonymous No.5567226]

[Anonymous No.5567291]

>>5567061
I appreciate you, anon.

[Anonymous No.5567312]

>>5567061
>it doesn't have a single bit of "soul" that the present day counterparts don't.
Well, I'd argue actual hand-painted stuff has more soul than digitally colored stuff.
Same with animation.
Still you seem way too bothered by a simple thread about retro game magazine cover arts.

[Anonymous No.5567315]

>>5566853
*SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFF*
dem feet

[Anonymous No.5567369]

OP the mags' soul don't come from the covers posted here, but rather from the fact that games back then were just a nerdy hobby, and the people who worked at those mags (aka the garme jurnalists) were as passionate and nerdy as their target audience, and the worst case scenario was simply a press release parroting magazine. The cover art only reflects the soul inside the mags.
Nowadays all media is poisoned by liberal arts rejects who see gaming jornalism as a career stepping stone and only care about their articles as a way to pay rent and virtue signal to their twitter cliques.

[Anonymous No.5567381]

>>5567312
>who hurt you
who hurt you? why do you hate the contemporary world?

[Anonymous No.5567397]

>>5567381
I never said I had any issue with the contemporary world.
In fact, 80s is still contemporary.

[Anonymous No.5567424]

>>5567061
>STOP ENJOYING THINGS THAT I DON'T LIKE
Go back to redit or /v/ or whatever hole you crawled from, faggot.

[Anonymous No.5567431]

>>5567369
Pretty much this. Especially in the 80s, pretty much all the game magazine covers were drawn by artists, and only a few were promotional images. They used to have less commercial pressure and sometimes they made very weird art.

Also, a lot of magazines like Mean Machines or Crash were almost like fanzines in their sometimes funky layouts, the use of a lot of comics drawn by the magazine artists, or their funny relationship with the readers. Also, no social media made them not as self-aware as modern journalists and they looked cooler, because you only knew very little about them.

[Anonymous No.5567449]

>>5567424
>STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME

[Anonymous No.5567634]

>>5567431

MSX Fan covers are works of art. Just so much care and thought into them. All shocking since the MSX is such a meh system.

[Anonymous No.5568076]

>>5567061
Leonardo, Mozart, and Shakespeare all "did it for the money" too, is their work all soulless? I've never seen one of you twats actually answer this question.
What kind of art do you think is worthwhile anyway?

[Anonymous No.5568117]

>>5567061
What are you, a socialist?

[Anonymous No.5568123]

The PC Engine Fan covers are from Akemi Takada (Patlabor character designer).
She is one of the best of this era, imho.

[Anonymous No.5568390]

>>5566379
>I think I may have heard of it in the context of someone explaining it was trying to be Maxim for games.
>Has anyone scanned them?

I haven;t seen any PDF's for this one. Though, some might be out there for all I know. And incite was trying to be "gaming for people over 30" magazine from 1999 to early 2000's. It was basically like: get celebrities or women in cosplay to photo bomb each cover, do fluff piece articles with b-tier celebrities, cover games, movie, music, TV and a bit of anime. The magazine didn't last long. Maybe two years?

[Anonymous No.5568419]

Where did you get the Famitsu covers from?

[Anonymous No.5568489]

staring into your soul.

[Anonymous No.5568538]

>>5568123
>The PC Engine Fan covers are from Akemi Takada (Patlabor character designer).
>She is one of the best of this era, imho.

Wow, I would have never guessed. She also did Devil Man as well. This lady has quite the resume.

[Anonymous No.5568546]

Zzap 64 had some pretty rad covers.

[Anonymous No.5568548]

>>5568546

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>>5568548

[Anonymous No.5568554]

>>5568550

[Anonymous No.5568564]

>>5568554

[Anonymous No.5568576]

>>5562602
I definitely remember those mammaries, I mean, memories.

[Anonymous No.5568580]

>>5562859

[Anonymous No.5568581]

>>5568576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDJs1AGeNH8

[Anonymous No.5568753]

>>5567061
>being this mad

[Anonymous No.5569105]

>>5568123
>The PC Engine Fan covers are from Akemi Takada (Patlabor character designer).

Woah, I was noticing some Noa in there. I thougth it was just because of the era.

Wholesome tomboy genki girl.

[Anonymous No.5569308]

>>5568123
I had her autograph a post card from Saturn Fan magazine when she came to Project A-kon in Texas in 2000.

[Anonymous No.5569327]

Remember when they were WEIRD?

[Anonymous No.5569329]

[Anonymous No.5569353]

>>5569327

CVG had an Italian version too.

[Anonymous No.5569361]

>>5563105

She really looks like Noa Izumi with short hair.

[Anonymous No.5569548]

Gamest Magazine had some nice covers too

[Anonymous No.5569551]

[Anonymous No.5569553]

The awesome old Crash Magazine.

[Anonymous No.5569789]

>>5562859
Looks like ZZ Gundam character design

[Anonymous No.5570043]

>>5567226
>Jun Togawa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRijUISkB74

[Anonymous No.5570245]

>>5562602

[Anonymous No.5570257]

>>5567315
why are foot fetishists the only ones that consider airing their fetish publicly acceptable?
That "it's the most common fetish in the planet" bullshit is no excuse it's still a fetish and you should hide your god damn powerlevel.

[Anonymous No.5570407]

>>5570257
>the only ones that consider airing their fetish publicly
Are you not familiar with brapposting?

[Anonymous No.5570481]

>>5567226
What mag is this and where can I find more of it to read thru?

[Anonymous No.5570495]

>>5568390
Pity it didnt last. hopefully scans show up soon it sounds like something i'd enjoy going thru just to see some of the timepieces articles. might even find some new music and movies to watch or games to play

[Anonymous No.5570559]

>>5570043
>people think alt-idols are a new thing

[Anonymous No.5570741]

Gamers Republic was a pretty good gaming mag that appeared in 1998. It was created by Dave Halverson, who was responsible for Die Hard Game Fan Magazine prior. This one was trying to be a sleeker version of Game Fan, it covered most of the same things, but added a bit of TV, movies and music.

There are quite a few issues available on Internet Archive: https://archive.org/search.php?query=Gamers%27%20Republic

I recommend checking out the Internet Archive for full issues of many other old gaming magazines: https://archive.org/details/magazine_rack?&sort=-downloads&page=3

They do have a lot of different collections.

[Anonymous No.5570858]

i haven't actually seen a video game mag in a few years.

[Anonymous No.5570879]

>>5570741

Yeah, visually the production of GR is great, and it covers the import titles GF did too.

it only ran from 98-2000 though. There's one english magazine that never came out, and there's only an Italian version. Archive isn't missing an issue, it was never released to begin with. But no one's scanned the italian version.

[Anonymous No.5570884]

>>5570858

Post 2000's internet took over. 2008 seems to be the last year for most mags. A bunch of mags lasted until 2018. Game Masters, a mag I had never heard of before died in 2018 starting in like 1993. Nuts. How much can the other ones last?

[Anonymous No.5570910]

>>5570245

Have those been scanned?

[Anonymous No.5572437]

>>5562617
>Snake to Otacon - They Know EVERYTHING!
Fucking Lalilulelos

[Anonymous No.5573034]

>>5570884
>Post 2000's internet took over. 2008 seems to be the last year for most mags.

It's partially internet availabilty, but the dumping of world economy didn't help a single bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyP5z5YyHOg

[Anonymous No.5573057]

>>5570559
What were other alt idols from the '80s?

[Anonymous No.5573408]

>>5566701
I don't need an OVA to make this argument.

[Anonymous No.5573454]

[Anonymous No.5573468]

>>5570043
>>5570559
>>5573057
Probably the term "alt idol" didn't exist back then, Jun was probably seen as an anti-idol, but if you want more cool japanese women in 80s there's Min Hisako, bands like Kidorikko, Zelda or Masako-san.
Jun is unique though.

[Anonymous No.5574791]

>>5565951
I'm not gonna lie those teeth are freaking me out a bit.

[Anonymous No.5574802]

>>5573468
Does Miharu Koshi count?

[Anonymous No.5574839]

>>5562631
Fake news, primitive CGI is soul

[Anonymous No.5574845]

>>5567186
>it's contrarian that classic time tested things are good
coper harder /v/

[Anonymous No.5574889]

>>5574839

>primative dead eyed zombies

SOULLESS

[Anonymous ~ No.5576719]

>>5562602
>Anime
Gaming mags almost never have anime girls. At least not in westeros.

[Anonymous No.5576907]

>>5576719
The "Super Play" covers were typical of how occidental artists of the 90s would mimic the japanese anime aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.5576964]

>>5562947
The PC-FX and late-gen PCE CD games.

[Anonymous No.5576970]

Another "Super Play" cover art by british artist Wil Overton.

[Anonymous No.5576981]

>>5568123
I knew this shit looked familiar.

[Anonymous No.5577117]

>>5562610

That's pretty good art, and a lot better than the typical third world art for old games.

[Anonymous No.5577152]

I wish these were still around so I could have work as an illustrator

[Anonymous No.5577157]

>>5576970
This is pretty cool and hardcore.

[Anonymous No.5577309]

>>5563637
>Die Hard GameFan magazine had a mascot of their own, that appeared on all the earlier covers. The character's name is like "Monituar", or something, and was a weird blue muscle guy with a CRT for a head.

The more I look at that cover, the more I realize that a He-Man figure was used as a photo reference for the mascot. I can see that classic He-Man figure "squatting pose" they all had.

The artist that did the covers for Game Fan is Terry Wolfinger, who got his start on Heavy Metal Magazine. You can see that influence in his work. His early covers were a bit rough, but he did improve a lot over the course of the magazine.

[Anonymous No.5577354]

"Micro News" cover from french artist named Coucho.
The girl called "Rosie Zounette" (french pun) was the main heroine of the comic pages in the magazine.

[Anonymous No.5577369]

>>5577309

Postmiester would also make appearances on the early covers of Game Fan. Postmiester was the alias they would use to respond letters in the fan mail section of the magazine. They would stay in character of a mentally unstable postal worker. Some of the responses were great.

[Anonymous No.5577385]

>>5570257
We do whatever we want

[Anonymous No.5577418]

>>5577369

[Anonymous No.5577537]

>>5562625
Wil Overton did a lot of those Super Play covers.
It all felt really special.

I still can't get over the stuff Katsuya Terada and Benimaru Itoh did for Nintendo Power.
There was no phoning it in.

[Anonymous No.5577639]

>>5566947
He's right, most anime fans have terrible taste. This is fair because the most popular anime look awful. Soulless is apt, even.

[Anonymous No.5577643]

>>5563119
I feel your pain. The old styles were beautiful. Women felt like women.

[Anonymous No.5577991]

>>5563593
t. watched fist of the north star and eva and is now qualified to tell you how every modern anime is garbage for little girls

[Anonymous No.5577995]

>>5568076
>What kind of art do you think is worthwhile anyway?
none of it

[Anonymous No.5578003]

>>5577537
Because Nintendo Power is truly canonical to Nintendo's official lore/decisions, not a fan/arbitrary work. That's one reason why the writers were almost always generous in their ratings and coverage (though I think they were generally not retards like a lot of fad-seeking/attention-whoring game journalists are and WERE THEN, too)

[Anonymous No.5578180]

>>5563119
Because nowadays people want to look younger. In part of the 90s and especially the whole 80s, girls wanted to look beautiful but also look mature, and this was reflected in the arts too (movies, animation games, etc).

It's very difficult to find a woman in her 20s that look as mature as, for example, Maria Whittaker in her 20s when she did that famous cover.

[Anonymous No.5578184]

>>5578180
Sorry, I meant, its very difficult NOWADAYS to find a woman in her 20s...

[Anonymous No.5578195]

>>5577369
>Some of the responses were great.

Post examples.

[Anonymous No.5578236]

something something aesthetic

Good times, man

[Anonymous No.5578375]

>>5578180
Screw bread and butter bubble era anime, Frazetta style barbarian stuff is what I miss the most. Anime and manga cover a vast enough spectrum of genres and styles that you can always find some recent gems if you know where to look but you couldn't have genuine pulp fantasy stuff like that nowadays without it being either played as a joke or way too gritty and down to earth. That one Conan reboot from 2012 or so seems like proof enough. Colorful kitchen sink fantasy like Keith Parkinson and Larry Elmore is also something I miss a lot. I just want dragons and centaurs hanging out in some forested mountain range that looks conspicuously similar to the pacific northwest. From around 2000 onwards if it's not either way too cartoony or way too drab it tries way too hard to differentiate itself by putting its own spin on old staples then force it down your throat with some bullshit exposition about "aelves" and the Darkbane hordes and how their three classes of Spadassin, Pyroclast and Daggerbow are definitely not just the same fighter, mage and thief you've been playing for decades

[Anonymous No.5578382]

>>5576907
>would mimic the japanese anime aesthetic.
>the anime aesthetic
>the

[Anonymous No.5578446]

>>5578375
I have to give props to 300 for being a good recent example of that particular brand of low fantasy because it's over the top without ever being tongue in cheek or shying away from a little color and fantasy in its art direction

[Anonymous No.5579393]

is there a torrent/mega/fichier or some shit of all 90s game magazines? The retro mag site doesn't have much and archive is missing tons of stuff too.

[Anonymous No.5579407]

>>5578375
Is it vidya though?
Most barbarians in covers are just butchered anime covers with little to do with the actual game

[Anonymous No.5580724]

>>5579407
It goes beyond gaming, just like medieval high fantasy and sci fi. And as for butchered artwork I think this is a unique case where it goes the other way around. The japanese artwork for Golden Axe games is clearly intended to mimic Boris Vallejo's artstyle and they got the man himself to do the western artwork for 2

[Anonymous No.5580759]

>>5566379
>>5566228
>>5570495
Incite was essentially Computec's try of getting a foot into the international market. Incite was probably the first magazine to come with DVDs, apparently starting in late 1999. Computec would recycle the Incite videos and use them for the subscriber DVDs of PC Action and PC Games in Germany between 01/2000 and 10/2000 before switching to DVDs for everyone with issues 11/2000 (at least for PC Games, I'm not sure about PC Action). Of course they used downscaled versions of those vids for their regular CD-ROMs, too.
Around the same time they also created the UK offshoot of MCV, which for some weird reason is often perceived as the original MCV, despite being like 6 years younger than its German sister magazine which started in September 1994.

At least that's what I read into all of this.

[Anonymous No.5581621]

>>5578375
That's just a problem with media in general these days. Everything has to be either super dark and serious all the time, constantly reassuring its viewers that they are totally sophisticated and mature; or everything is so caked in irony and "quirky" random humor that not even the most brain dead stoner could handle it for more than five minutes before getting sick.

[Anonymous No.5581657]

what were the best computer hardware magazines of the 90s?