Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon

[Anonymous No.5553321]

Why is this series completely dead in the West? Is it even alive in Japan?
This game was an absolute gem, all my friends who played it loved it as well. Still one of the best OSTs of the 64 era imo.

[Anonymous No.5553356]

The game is steeped in obscure nip culture, which is why itvwas never as big in the west. But the games we do have have a big cult following, especially here on /vr/.

As far as what happened to the series, well you do know the current state of Konami, right ?

[Anonymous No.5553539]

Konami fucked it up during the snes era by not bringing the other goemon games and also fucking up gg1 with those weird changes.
MNSG also released during OoT hype so it kinda went under the radar (even if it sold ok from what I remember).
And I guess the west was way more into MGS or Castlevania at the time.

[Anonymous No.5553550]

>>5553539
It was released a year before Ocarina of Time, though. I don’t think it really went under the radar. As you said it sold decently. It’s just was too goofy and japanese to be mainstream.

[Anonymous No.5553746]

I remember back then, the latin american Club Nintendo magazine would cover Goemon games when they released here, and I think they might have even talked about the japan-only games as well.
I remember they used Goemon alongside Mario and Mega Man in early 90s issues, I guess as a sort of mascot representing Konami.
I don't know why it didn't caught, maybe because of the "too japanese" thing, then again, by the late 90s/early 00s, the whole world was familiar with anime and stuff, so I dunno.
Goemon nowadays is but a memory, and Konami only uses it on pachinko or maybe re-releases of the old games on mobile. The original Goemon Team left Konami in 2005, and they made games for Nintendo (Wario Land Shake it, Yoshi's Wooly World, Kirby Epic Yarn)

[Anonymous No.5553824]

>>5553321
>Is it even alive in Japan?
>Konomi still making games.

[Anonymous No.5554169]

>>5553824
What the fuck happened to them, bros? Did the old president step down? Was it change in executive leadership?

[Anonymous No.5555689]

>>5554169
I think they just made the decision as a company to get out of the unsafe bet that is game development, and go all-in on the surefire bet of making pachinko machines.

[Anonymous No.5556289]

>>5554169
Nobody cares about modern Japanese games. Modern Jap devs have no talent whatsoever and are better off jacking it to lolicon porn.

[Anonymous No.5556297]

>>5553746
It's weird how N64 fans like to idolize games of really dubious quality while Great Adventure is one of the legit best titles on the system yet nobody ever heard of it.

[Anonymous No.5556349]

>>5555689

>create Yugioh
>ride that wave till oblivion and beyond by printing cards and make some anime too
>disregard everything else except for Pachinko, Gambling, Casino Software and Fitness Equipment and Machines

[Anonymous No.5556373]

>>5553321
People like it because it's literally the only playable RPG style game apart from Zelda

[Anonymous No.5556376]

>>5556349
Why did you capitalize all those nouns? Are you German?

[Anonymous No.5556521]

>>5556297
There's many people who remember Mystica Ninja starring Goemon though. It still went under the radar for many, but a lot of people have memories of renting it at blockbuster. Most people seem to share the same experience with it: renting, loving it, and getting stuck on the first Impact battle, or if they got past it, they still couldn't advance much because of no memory card. And they still loved the game. Many finally were able to complete the game as adults.
GGA came kinda late to the N64's library, and also remember that at the time, 2D/sidescroll platformers weren't the genre most people were interested in, people were still riding the 3D craze, nostalgia for 2D/sidrescroll wouldn't surface until much later. Still people who were lucky enough to get their hands on GGA probably know how special and good that game is. I'm pretty sure GGA had a lower production run than MNSG.

[Anonymous No.5556526]

>>5556373
>console warring on a Goemon thread

[Anonymous No.5556583]

>>5556526
I think he's actually trying to troll by calling an action-adventure genre an RPG.

[Anonymous No.5556603]

>>5556583
yeah but at the same time trying to trigger a "n64 had no rpgs" derail

[Anonymous No.5556608]

>>5556603
Basically he is a shitposter that should be ignored. Ideally the mods should be keen enough on retro discussion to see that he was just baiting, which is against the rules. But that would mean mods actually knew their boards and not trying to let everything go to shit.

[Anonymous No.5556615]

Goemon games are pretty shit platforming-wise. People (aka retro hipsters) just started liking them now for the wacky, off-beat, reddit-tier humour.

[Anonymous No.5556618]

>>5556615
Not really, they are quality platfomers from Konami's peak era.

[Anonymous No.5556623]

DASH DASH DASH!!

[Anonymous No.5556629]

GANBARE SO GANBARE

[Anonymous No.5556668]

>>5556603
then post at least 10 RPGs from N64 library without checking up any lists. I can do that for most platforms, not for N64.
>>5556608
get the fuck back reddit with your anankastic neurosis because of someone having a different opinion than you.
>>5556583
discussion about zelda being rpg or action-adventure game literally goes back to the first game in the series

[Anonymous No.5556671]

>>5556668
Okay. That doesn't change the fact that every person who has ever called Zelda an RPG has been wrong about it.

[Anonymous No.5556679]

>>5556671
Anon it seems the OP of this thread >>5550623 has found himself here. Just report and ignore him.

[Anonymous No.5556705]

>>5556668
If anything, the N64 not having many RPGs is a point in its favor.

[Anonymous No.5556720]

>>5556668
okay but how is this related to Goemon?
The post that stated that people "only like it because it's literally the only rpg other than zelda" was clearly baiting.
>then post at least 10 RPGs from N64 library without checking up any list
what's your obsession with rpgs? I know more than 10, but most of them are japan-only, and some of them SRPGs, my favorite being SRW64. But it's still not related to Goemon.

[Anonymous No.5556802]

BREAK
DOWN

[Anonymous No.5556809]

>>5556802
Konami were madmen getting both Aniki and Kageyama to sing songs for the game.

[Anonymous No.5556821]

>>5556802
>>5556809
I didn't have a manual when I played so the Kabuki robot was a huge brick wall to me since the mecha battles were so obtuse to me

But summoning Impact was the greatest moment in video games ever to me at the time.

[Anonymous No.5556832]

>>5556821
It's still doable even without knowing the special moves, I managed to beat the entire game without knowing the special Impact moves. It's significantly harder though, since you rely a lot on ryo-shooting.

[Anonymous No.5556840]

>>5556821
>>5556832
What kind of special moves are you talking about? I remember figuring out the pipe grapple hook thing, and would spam that a lot.

[Anonymous No.5556849]

>>5556840
If you'd input a special command (like, B; one of the C buttons, etc) Impact would unleash a Hokuto no ken-style ATATATATATA attack and deal a lot of damage to the enemy. You needed to do it close to the enemy, so the grapple hook was helpful.
I remember I only used the grapple and managed to do some short combos (like the punch and kick that would launch the enemy).

[Anonymous No.5556907]

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[Anonymous No.5556914]

Yae is sexy

[Anonymous No.5556918]

>>5556914
She's an extremely dangerous kunoichi

[Anonymous No.5556920]

>>5556918
>kunoichi
Translator note: A kunoichi is a female ninja.

[Anonymous No.5556939]

thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJrnlFW4IMc

[Anonymous No.5556953]

>>5556939
she's perfect

[Anonymous No.5556981]

>unique and funny take on feudal japan setting
>fun platforming
>memorable boss battles
>absolute god-tier soundtrack
>konami will never, EVER recreate it now

[Anonymous No.5557004]

>>5556981
Not when stroking the rock-hard PaCHINKO addiction rakes in more Monies for Konami

[Anonymous No.5557038]

>>5556981
after Great Adventure they kinda just made below-average games like Oedo Daikaten and 2 shit reboots (Shin Sedai and PS2 Goemon) didn't help keeping the franchise afloat, even after the great DS game.
Doesn't surprise me that Konami just focused more on Castlevania, Silent Hill or MGS during 6th gen and beyond while keeping the rest of their IPs for mobile shit or the dreaded pachislots.