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DOOM THREAD

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Please READ this FAQ before posting, some stuff here is very important!
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/AfQkPem3
Also please READ this special message from Impse!
http://pastebin.com/BJYFUx20
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Doom setup tutorial for newfriends:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0QyGyUmwh8
PRO DOOM STRATS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA
Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vrDOOM

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What's new?
An anon is making an interesting gameplay mod, currently it has no title, just "Projectile.pk3"
Odamex got an update, you can get it here ( http://odamex.net/ )
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Discuss wads, stories, projects, servers, ask for recommendations, suggest ideas, etc; don't be shy, we're here to help!

We have many projects going, and if you want to share your maps or join in whatever thing you may want feel free to do it.

Remember, to join the /vr/ servers, you should get Zandronum
http://zandronum.com/download
Standard passwords for /vr/ servers: vidya, vidyagaems, videojuegos
If these do not work, ctrl+f the server name.

We have an IRC channel too

irc.zandronum.com #vr
password: vrtroopers

For singleplayer, use GZDoom SVN builds. vid_renderer can switch between software and OpenGL so you don't have to install zdoom as well.
http://svn.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

This is a begginer's pack someone kindly put up for everyone
IWAD Pack (40 MB) (Contains Doom/Doom2/Plutonia/TNT/Strife/HeXen/Heretic/etc)
http://www.mediafire.com/?jdl2pbv0vfv0b6n
Doom Pack (200 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?zwhkju5l5d8mo9v
MEGA PACK (1 GB) (w/mirrors)
http://filewinds.com/ka0r1kpttoow/DOOM_Megapack.zip.html
https://mega.co.nz/#!Q5JD1QyB!UbMB9lwxtTsHFJW5FNU0emKXvqEpptZPKs_kVB8P_jc
http://www.mediafire.com/?a01dhq1jk7i3p

Let's get Dooming!

>> No.554332

>http://www.mediafire.com/?92ld4rxrtak6efi
Bug fixes, bug fixes everywhere!

Mostly, the imps projections were supposed to be illusory, and unable to, well, throw damaging impballs. Like they could. On accident.
... Oops?

>> No.554337

We must go FASTER

>> No.554345
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>>554337

herp derp, forgot pic

>> No.554354

>>554332
You should also make them just be removed once the actual imp dies, instead of doing a death animation.

>> No.554357

So, /vr/, what's the most impressive feat you've done in Doom?

Me, I've beaten every original Doom (Ultimate, 2, Plutonia, and TNT) in both Doom95 and Brutal Doom on UV, including secret levels

>> No.554370

>>554354
They're actually killed, and then a few ticks later, they're removed. But I can fix that while I make the pain elementals.

>> No.554383

How can I use ACS to take script arguments and use them to specify TID in another part of the script/another script the initial script hands off to?

>> No.554403

Just caught this on a stream. It was glorious.
http://www.tw tch.tv/sanctuarycrew/b/396404063

inb4 mouselook bitching

>> No.554453

>>554357
I've beaten all of those on UV, and I've beaten KDITD on Nightmare.

>> No.554478

>>554383


What I really mean to ask is how I can pass script arguments to functions, I guess.

I just realized that normal acs_execute hands off script arguments.

>> No.554516

I had a dream where I went back in time to when Raven Software was starting up. Their headquarters were across the street from Rare for some reason. They were about to release their first game but then Goldeneye 007 was being sent to their publisher so we had a car chase to get the copy so Raven could release their game first so they could get ahead on the market. Also Timmy Turner was there.

Sage for somewhat off-topic

>> No.554523

>>554516
I thought you said that you were leaving

>> No.554526
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554526

>> No.554538

>>554523
read the entire thing, at the end it just says
"lmao jk"

>> No.554549

>>554516

I had scallion chicken for dinner last night.

>> No.554550

>>554538
Ah, I pretty much just skimmed over it because I really didn't care.

>> No.554572

>>554332
>imps that spawn more imps
I had no idea I wanted this until now. How hard was that to make?

>> No.554597

>>554572
Not very, because the illusory imps aren't solid, so I didn't have to set up the bits that make them appear without clipping into the parent imp. They could just... walk out.

Also, new update! Pain elementals are less of jerks, but more of jerks at the same time! 75% of lost souls are homing missiles that selfdestruct on you, but they run and hide on the other side of the map before spitting them- and actual lost souls that summon monsters- out at you. They're both aggressive seige units that hate you, but they understand how much they like living.

Also, if you're good enough with strafing, you can make two suicide souls slam into eachother and both explode.

>> No.554609

>>554597
Can you abort their skull babies?

>> No.554616

We should play on a server.

>> No.554624

>>554609
The 'normal' ones that raise monsters can be aborted, but the suicidal ones just slam out and headbutt you. But the pain elemental's too smart to let you abort his skullbabies, now.

>> No.554634

>>554597
Sounds awesome.

>> No.554674

>>554357
I've done UVtyson (only fist, pistol & chainsaw, 100% kills) on Doom 1, and half of Doom 2. Of course there are some levels where it's fucking impossible to do that (fuck you episode 4).
Also, some world records go over 2 hours on some maps (fucking e4m1) .

>> No.554683

>>554674
Correction: e4m1 world record is 50 minutes

>> No.554730

Does the TNT IWAD in the IWAD Pack have the Yellow Keycard bug on level 31 or is it patched?

captcha: between agitated

>> No.554751

>>554730
Why don't you IDCLEV yourself and find out

>> No.554779
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554779

Look what I just stumbled upon in the comment section of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UTKl6UvRrw

>> No.554839

>>554779
All of my yes!

Wish the original game would work on Win 7.

>> No.554842

So, is Chex Quest 3 DM compatible?

>> No.554854

>>554842
yeah

>> No.554861

>>554854
Well, I mean, does it have weapons and shit everywhere for it?
Or would they have to be added

>> No.554872

>>554839
I doubt Sgt. Mark is seriously considering this honestly, he's going to make Brutal Doom forever.
You can also just emulate it for the Playstation or Saturn, if you're lucky the Playstation version has mouse support

>> No.554878

>>554779

>Mark doing the so dreamed SPESH MUHREEN wad

Oh god the shitstorm.

I mean, it's a nice and noble idea and everything, but....yeah....

>> No.554925
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554925

When will be the new doomkart released?
Because fuck the old one

>> No.554935 [DELETED] 

>>554925
doomkartguy pls leave

>> No.554942

>>554925

Some new bros are working on it.
So keep calm and RIP AND TEAR

>> No.554945

alright guys, does anyone know a midi to mp3 converter that will make the mp3's sound like they do in the games?

>> No.554957

>>554861

I've played chex3 before on dm, so yeah

dunno if it's the chex3.wad levels or soemthing else though, can check if you want

>> No.554964

>>554957
Alright, because I could go for a Zorchmatch right around now.

>> No.554965 [DELETED] 

>>554925
>Because fuck the old one

What the Fuck is wrong with you people.
You are all acting like "hurr durr MUH DOOMKURT" and bitch about how pathetic and retarded the creator is.

Just work on it on your own and make a better mod.
Faggot

>> No.554969

>>554945
Converting music from midi to MP3 is practically impossible from what I can tell.

>> No.554970

>>554861
>>554957
okay it looks like you need chex3.wad and ChexPackP16-3.2.pk3

>> No.554972 [DELETED] 

>>554965
That's what we're doing, /pol/guy has been looking into it alot.

>> No.554973

>>554945
>midi to mp3 converter

Such program doesn't exist, or at least in a freeware way

What you can do is to hookup Audacity or any audio program that supports recording from stereo mix, and then play the MIDI via WMP or SLADE with soundfonts

>>554965


>Just work on it on your own and make a better mod.

That's what the people in /vr/ is doing, you dum dum

>> No.554974 [DELETED] 

>>554965

i want doomkart guy to leave.

>> No.554976 [DELETED] 

>>554925
LEL the pic makes me laugh evertim because of the shitstorm it caused

>> No.554982 [DELETED] 

>>554976
>LEL

>>>/r/gaming

>> No.554983 [DELETED] 

>>554925
>>554965
>viral marketing
TOP LEL

>> No.554984 [DELETED] 

>>554982
/slap

>> No.554991 [DELETED] 

>>554942
>keep calm
You nigger

>> No.554997

>>554973
Impse confirmed for DKguy

>> No.555006

>>554965
>>554972

polmapguy here

I really wish the original author was still working on the project, because he knew a great deal more about acs than I do.

Just because I made pol.wad doesn't mean I'm a fucking wizard. Keep in mind that on that map I just did stuff that I had seen done in some capacity on one or another map that I'd played through the years, and on Doomkart it's mostly new territory.

>> No.555012 [DELETED] 

>people talking about DoomFart
Why are you idiots disxussing the blundr of the century

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>>554972
Yeah, I really want to do the music for it

>> No.555035
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>>554976
>>554982
>>554983
>>554984
>>554991
>>554965
>>554972

Based mod strikes again.

>> No.555036
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555036

>still no samsara ctf server up

>> No.555056

>>555036
>ctf
There's your problem.

>> No.555061

>>555036
No.
We Zorchmatch now.
Anyone want to set up the Zorchmatch server with these >>554970 ?

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555062

>>555006
>>555006
>>555006
>>555006

>he knew a great deal more about acs then I do
>

Anyways good luck.

>> No.555063

>>554872
Yea I played the PS version on emulator. It was really fun.

>> No.555097

>>555063

>PS

Oh no, ripping from Playstation games is a pain in the ass, BUT if that game only uses sprites like Doom, then you're good to go, since extracting geometry is just impossible.

Was that game released in another platform? MAYBE I could try to do something, like telling you guys what tools you need in order to extract dem textures.

>> No.555167

>>555097
3DO, MS-DOS, Microsoft Windows, PlayStation, Sega Saturn

IIRC I still have the PC files on my comp. I figured how to run it on Win7, but the screen is a clusterfuck because 7 uses DirectDraw which is needed to be turned off. I tried running it on a Win98 Virtual Machine with no luck.

If anyone wants (and given I still have the game) I can upload it somewhere.

>> No.555175

>>555062

You ever coming back to the project?

Why did you drop it anyway? Just because one person was whining?

>> No.555240

>>555175
He tried to be a viral marketer and basically told everyone 'fuck you, it's over because one person was impatient'
He was a giant faggot basically

>> No.555241
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555241

>>555175
>>555175

Always this goddamn question...

It was supposed to be a joke, and wanted to edit some stuff. I temporaly uploaded the unfinished joke, and the next day some random nigger found it. Dont ask me how, but its pissing me off.

The people got the unfinished Doomkart wad with the unfinished joke and everyone went nuts.

Since then, some random asshole keeps shitposting about the mod. After this I lost motivation and interest.

But Im working on a new project.

>> No.555251

>>555241
>>555175

Samefag

>> No.555267

Noone wants to start the ZM server?

>> No.555271

>>555241
>It was supposed to be a joke
Ohhhhhh the good ol' most generic defense on the internet. "It was supposed to be a joke!"

>> No.555289

>>555241
Protip: Jokes don't usually tell the victim to "Fuck Off"

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555290

>>555240

This. Dont trust that fucking DKG
He is australian shitposter

>>555241
Seems legit

>> No.555294

>>555241
dkg pls leave

>>555267
Why don't you start it?

>> No.555298

>>555271
That new project is supposed to be a joke too

>> No.555304

>>555294
I...
I'm not good with that stuff.
I don't know how to do the config files, and whenever I try to host something through BE, something goes wrong.

>> No.555314

>>555304
Teach me how to do BE Passwords and I'll do it.

>> No.555321

>>555167
Allright, apperantly I still have the game.

It's a clusterfuck abomination I succesfully created over the course of 3 years of struggling to get it working.

It has all the files, but has got duplicated files and extra stuff. If you have XP you may be able to run the game if you turn off DirectDraw in Windows, set the compatibility to 95-98, Run in 640x480 and in the configuration you put a tick at Max Resolution or something like that.

http://www.4shared.com/archive/8ruqbDwB/shv.html

>> No.555323

>>555314
We really need a BE guide in the OP or something.

>> No.555327

>>555314

First you host the server, then you join like any normal game, and then you type "send_password" along with the password the BestBot gave to you in IRC

>> No.555341

>>555290
did moot actually make that post?
if so I actually kinda agree with him, at least every single post that I have seen on various boards where some one does something that makes it obvious they are aussies are complete shitposting. It seems to be the nation with the youngest userbase as well, which is probably the root of the problem.

>> No.555367

>>554878
What do you mean? There's been other attempts?

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>>555241

People go nuts on 4chan all the time for all sundry stupid reasons. Pay it no mind.

There were plenty of reasonable people that didn't care or even found it funny. But the faggots yelled the loudest, and you decided to give up the project because of them.

I can understand if you're preoccupied with other shit now, but it really is a shame that you decided to give it up for such a small if you thought you could bring the project to completion. There were plenty of people interested in mapping courses that were just waiting on a set of mapping guidelines that they could follow. The project will still go on, but it's going to take longer for it to get done and it's future is a lot less certain.

If you came back to it and delivered a finished product I can all but guarantee that the previous drama surrounding the project would be forgotten. There are still plenty of people that would be willing to work with you for the parts you want help on (sounds, sprites, courses, etc.) but whether or not you choose to pursue Doomkart again is entirely up to you.

>> No.555390

>>555251

I'm not a samefag, I'm the polmapguy.

>> No.555393

>>555367

There's one archived attempt at making sprites for a game in the Realm667 forums (they looked cartoonish)

Also, /tg/ has an undeniable love for Doom and Doomguy, some of them even consider him the prototype of the SPEESH MUHREEN

>> No.555396

>>555323
I'd like that too, the guide on the site isn't the best.

>>555390
>denying being a samefag
Hi, samefag.

>> No.555402

>>555390
Why don't you use a tripcode?

>> No.555406
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555406

>>555241
I believe in DoomKartGuy

>> No.555410

>>555380
Yeah, most of us want nothing to do with this guy.
We're working on it, but that's because we like then concept, not his execution of it.

>>555396
Even though 40k was around about 5 years before Doom?

>> No.555420

>>555410
>Even though 40k was around about 5 years before Doom?
No one ever said fa/tg/uys were smart.

>> No.555439

>Open Doom
>type "movebob 0" in console
>Enter

You're welcome, guys

>> No.555449

>>555321
This thread is going places
Anyone going to attempt to rip those sprites?

>> No.555452

>>555439
I prefer the head bob.

>> No.555459

>>555321
>>555449

Is that the PC version of it? I might try to check the files with Game UnPacker

>> No.555461

>>555380
>The project will still go on, but it's going to take longer for it to get done and it's future is a lot less certain.

Why? You guys suck at coding? Or mapping?
Or are you lazy?

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555463

>Firing patterns named after made up E.Y.E. Grandmasters. Good luck figuring out which is which.

>> No.555473

>>555459
According to that dude it is

>> No.555481

>>555459
Yes, PC.

But beware, if Games Workshop finds us, we are doomed.

See what I did there?

>> No.555487

>>555406

YoU should be you fag. He betrayed us and now hes an auristic purist. Fuck that guy, we are god tier, hes shit tier.

Heil /vr/

>> No.555495

Any mod similar to Particle fire enhancer? No gameplay changes

>> No.555497

>>555481

No, not if you remove all non-40k content, stick to fluff and include their 4 paragraph copyright notice, you won't be shot down.

>> No.555514

>>555497

By sticking to fluff I mean no characters from books, rulebooks and any other published media. You have to come up with your own character and stories that are non consequential to 40k Universe.

>> No.555516

>>555497
Have you ever heard of the free game, Space Hulk 1.1? They were shot. With a rocket launcher.

But still I'm really looking forward if there'll be something made out of it.

>> No.555518

>>555461

Look at any project that changes hands multiple times, there are plenty of them around. Projects getting dropped and picked up again is never a good sign.

For me personally it's lack of experience; I literally never touched acs before ~3 weeks ago and have almost no programming experience prior to that. I have the time and inclination to learn, and am picking it up fast (from what it seems so far ACS is babbycode), but any number of more important things could suck up my freetime and then my involvement is done. Also given my lack of experience it's going to take me longer to do things than someone that already knows how to code.

>>555396
>>555402

I used to have a tripcode back in the day on /diy/ but I don't really see the point here since I'm not giving advice and except in certain cases (like responding to bugfinds from my map or people claiming I'm a samefag) my identity is not important. (Note: this doesn't mean I hate tripcodes, though)

>> No.555521

>>555516
>They were shot. With a rocket launcher.

DAYUM

So what do they expect to do with all the effort and the will from their fanbase to expand the game and make the game even more famous?

Holy fuck they're pants on head retarded

>> No.555536

>>555521
They are very eager about their copyrights.

They will cut your fucking hands off. They shot down lots of mods too but I heard something if you do it totally non-profit and some other shit they won't bother you.

Seriously tho, they can't do shit againts a doom wad that will spread like wildfire. I say go for it.

>> No.555551

>>555516

But that was THQs one of the last dick moves before they went to dick hell, not GW.

>> No.555579

How's the ZM server coming?

>> No.555656 [DELETED] 

Server: :: [BE] New York :: /vr/: On The Edge of Shitposting
Password: riptearguts
We Stronghold now.
Just a warning though, Stronghold is 100MB and downloading it through is WADSeeker is slow so get it from the official site.

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mfw I just found the curve linedefs function in doombuilder 2

>> No.555689

>>555656
Which version?

>> No.555709

>>555656
>stronghold
God... Goddamnit, you could read the thread before you do this shit.

>> No.555724 [DELETED] 

>>555656
Fuck it, shutting down the server.

>> No.555736

>>555709
What's wrong with stronghold?

>> No.555742

>>555736
We're trying to set up a Zorchmatch server.

>> No.555780

>>555742
Move faster next time.

>> No.555786

>>555659

>carmack_runs_out_of_pizza_an_dr_pepper,gif

>> No.555789

>>555410
How are you going to speak for the majority when you don't even know who the majority is? I personally would love to see the project being finished by the creator, and for idiots to stop shitposting about a person who assumed that people on 4chan may have a sense of humor, but hell thats just me.

>> No.555798

Just started Doom 2, that "klop klop" the Super Shotgun makes is absolutely sublime. Can't believe how much fun this series is.

>> No.555802
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555802

guys go home you can't beat this guy

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36053

he is much better moder than u ever iwll be

gg

>> No.555825

>>555802

Seventeen dudes, 2 bots and 22 guests

This shit is going to be massive, day 1 buy!

>> No.555834

>>555802
I was just following that.

Holy shit how can someone be that stupid.

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>>555834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2YdMcuHDd4&feature=youtu.be
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36053&p=682379#p682379

>> No.555882

>>555860
I read that IRC log that got posted in that thread. Holy shit all those problems.

And that vid summed up my experience with it.

>> No.555936

Are you around Orangestar?

>> No.555951

Anyone have that Doom WAD guide image?

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>>555951

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>>555957

>> No.555965

>>555961
>>555957
Thank you.

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555978

So, about dat SPEESH MUHREEN game...

Apparently it was released primarily on the 3DO, and then it was ported for the PC, Saturn and Playstation

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4rqz9srmonxsxhp/PAL.zip

These files are what I could obtain from the PC version linked in this very thread, they're mostly textures and nothing else. Dragon UnPacker couldn't recognize most of the files and the only ones that I could get a hold of were the .iff ones. Some of the files included in the PC version apparently have something to do with a 3DO file format which is used for storing images

Now, if I could get a hold of the PS version and try to rip the game using my old 3D ripping tools, MAYBE then I would be able to grab the muhreen sprites. But this is pretty much what I could do for the moment, so there you go guys

>> No.556013

>>555978
Playstation version:
http://www.emuparadise.me/Sony_Playstation_ISOs/Space_Hulk_-_Vengeance_of_the_Blood_Angels_[NTSC-U]/37574-download

Saturn version (if it helps):
http://edgeemu.net/details-37445.htm

Godspeed

>> No.556041

>>555978

Why don't yo just ask Exterminatus devs (or don't) and use source SDK to rip sprites?

>> No.556060
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556060

Hey guys, don't mind me.
Just being a shitty mod.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi6w5f6gpYs

>> No.556075
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556075

Hey guys, just saying I'm working on a new version of the Doom soundtrack (that was fast). The ones I put up don't sound like they do in-game. I found a good MIDI to MP3 converter. This one will sound exactly how it does in-game.

>> No.556086

>>556075
You using Timidity ++?

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>>556060

>> No.556104

>>556086
eww no
Timidity didn't even have any sound when I tried to use it.
I'm using Direct MIDI to MP3 converter

>> No.556130

>>556104
>not following the instructions here
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1478

>> No.556131

>>554945
XMPlay can "write" a sound that it plays to an audio file. This also includes trackers.

>> No.556143

>>556060
I have no words.

And that line of junk shotguns was hilarious.

>> No.556154
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556154

Can anyone explain to me in simple words why is the Doom community always infested with drama? It's always petty bickery, I honestly don't get it

>> No.556157

>>556130
I don't think you know what I meant.
I didn't want a new soundfont, I needed a good MIDI to MP3 converter that sounded like it did ingame, and i found one.

>> No.556173
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>>556060
>fires up in the AIR
>the enemies BELOW HIM die

my sides are in orbit

>> No.556190
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556190

server: "/vr/ serves eachother a balanced breakfast"
ip: 108.61.83.66:15015
pass: vidya

running chex3 DM with chexskulltagpack

>> No.556208

>>556154
I think its because everyone knows each other and when one person makes a dick move everyone takes on side and since were on the internet, pardon is not an excuse.

Though im probably wrong.

>> No.556214

>>555936
I uploaded the latest chexpack, but had to leave before I could start the server.
If someone wants to, they can start one with this command in #bestever:
.host hostname="Eating Healthy With The /vr/ Crew" iwad=chex3.wad data wad=chexpackp16-3.2.pk3 gamemode=dm

>> No.556220

Anyone got a link to download samara. I'm far too lazy to search myself.

>> No.556227

>>556220
http://www.best-ever.org/wads/

cntrl+f samsara

>> No.556228

>>556214
ninja'd
>>556190

>> No.556230

>>556190
IMMA TOAST YER WAFFLES BOY

>>556220
Just google 'doom samsara' it's not that hard sheeeesh.

>> No.556232

>>556060
It really looks like a samsara alpha. My only concern about the video is how he always picked video where he dies....

>> No.556238

>>556232
Have you even tried it? It's a struggle just to beat MAP01 on HMP.

>> No.556246

>>556060
>Junk shotguns
>Four rocket launchers
>One goes through the sky and ground
I'm dying of laughter.

>> No.556248

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65xJfVkiaI
Bobby Prince singing You've Got To Eat Your Vegetables is the best part

>> No.556253

>>556060
"This REALLY pisses me off!"
Perfect ending.

>> No.556254

>>556232
It really is that much of a struggle.

>> No.556259

>>556238
Really? Sounds interesting, ill keep it im mind.

>> No.556264

>>556157
What I'm trying to say is that Doom with Timidity ++ sounds like heaven when using Generaluser Fluidsynth soundfont.

>> No.556283

>>556259
Trust me, Hideous Destructor is easier than this.

>> No.556289

An interesting idea I'm toying with is a wad wherein you're a demon, alone on a UAC facility, and have to slaughter marines.

>> No.556305

>>556289
The player would need to be a "bit" overpowered demon tho. The demons overrun the UAC bases so one demon slaughtering tons of marines would seem strange.

Other thing, how you gonna replace medpacks? If the player is custom monster it could devour the marines' souls.

>> No.556325

Is there something like a high definition mod for Doom?

I have a problem with older FPS games where the speed combined with the graphics gives me severe motion sickness.

>> No.556336

>>556325
are you playing on a sourceport? They have a much higher framerate than the original version. If you are playing on a sourceport, try Chocolate Doom

>> No.556356

>>556325

Higher Definition will only make you sicker, you need fixed fps.

>> No.556374

http://dhtp.freelanzer.com/

>> No.556383

>>556374
every time I try dling that it times out :(

>> No.556395

>>556305
That's what I thought. Kill a marine... maybe consume its corpse for health, or something similar.

And the 'overpowered' bit is probably a given, due to the way that it's probably going to be a single player episode.

>> No.556419

>>556190
>1 error while parsing DECORATE
What the hell does this mean?

>> No.556473

>>556395
Make it E1 backwards, with appropriate difficulty on each level (E1M8 is E1M1 backwards and is also the hardest level)
Final Boss is Doomguy. He is unkillable. At 10hp he shoots a rocket at your face and you are sent back to hell. This is how you win.

>> No.556548

>>556473
No, the final boss is two marines riding a tank on the courtyard of E1M1. After you kill them, you barely make it to the exit (for the Doomguy, the entrance), and get killed by him in a dramatic struggle where he uses his bare fists only. I mean, you have to remember he starts with a pistol, that is.

>> No.556552

>>556305
It would be cool if you were a demon general, and could get summon points by killing marines. Once you get 5 or 10 or 15 or whatever you can summon groups of smaller to large demons... That sort of thing. Bosses would be troop carriers and mining vehicles and stuff...

Man the possibilities are endless.

>> No.556575

>>556552
Various types of humans too... Hazmat marines with flame throwers, miners with melee weps to chainsaws, pre-former human sergeants and chain-gunners. Demo guys with rocket launchers...

>> No.556601

>>556289
>>556305
>>556473
Holy shit, I worked on a wad like that before! Like, the exact same thing! You're an imp created by the Gatekeeper as he was dying. He used all his last energy and sacrificed himself to create you. Because of that, you have some sort of magic mimetic power. You can only start by clawing and spitting fire, but when you touch marine weapons you can start imitating their effects with magic. You start in hell, which has been invaded by marines who started installing bases here and there. You then go through human cities, and at the end of course, the UAC headquarters. The final boss is Doomguy but I never really thought about how the final fight would go. Doomguy getting killed doesn't seem right, but making the player die at the end ain't cool ever.

>>556473's idea is pretty good. You can make a sequel out of that, where the forces of evil, who had the time to grow big again after your takeover in the first game, try to attack earth once again.

>> No.556606

>>556289

Killing marines makes them resurrect into zombies, marines wield different weapons (plasma marines yada yada yada), final level should be the end of episode one.

>> No.556641

>>556601
you send doomguy to hell thinking hes gonna die there.

>> No.556649

>>556641
Don't make him impossible, make him *almost* impossible, and a constantly strafing jerk with tons of health and armor and twice as fast as you. Make him a real pain in the ass, and turn off cheats on the final boss level.

>> No.556660
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556660

Guys...what do I do here?

Everytime I try to join the chex server, I get this shit. I don't even have the doom shareware wad...do I need it?

>> No.556668

>>556660
>not registered
report'd to chex llc inc

it's running with chex3.wad as the iwad

>> No.556671

Someone post that picture of Doomguy as Tommy Wiseau

>> No.556673
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>>556575

>> No.556683
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>>556289
>>556305
>>556606
>play as a unique demon sent to Phobos to clear things out
>start off with a claw/leap attack and maybe some kind of fireball
>get more powerful spells throughout the campaign like raise zombie or corpse explosion
>you get two different types of mana for basic and unique spells, like in hexen
>mana (and health) can be gained by devouring the souls of slain enemies like in Painkiller
>there is an abundance of civilian personnel who will run instead of attacking and basically serve as walking, screaming health and ammo paks

This sounds fucking rad as hell.

>> No.556684

>>556660
You need the Chex Quest 3 IWAD, there's a download link in the OP.
That'll give you Doom, Doom II, Hexen, Heretic, and Strife as well.
Make sure you have Doomseeker know where your IWAD folder is.

>> No.556687

>>556668
Yep, have it. Still won't work.

>> No.556706

>>556684
>>556668
Even if I isolate the IWAD into it's own folder, and add the folder to the zandronum file path list, it still pulls up the same screen.

>> No.556709

>>556683
>walking, screaming health and ammo paks

Call me edgy but all of my yes.

>> No.556725

>>556706
>zandronum file list
What about Doomseeker's file list?

>> No.556728

>>556706
It needs to be in your Doomseeker file list.

>> No.556730

>>556687
>>556706

download from here:

http://www.chucktropolis.com/gamers.htm

the same thing happened to me and that fixed it

>> No.556753

>>556725
>>556728
That's what I meant.

>>556730
I'll try that.

>> No.556767

>>556190
should of been called "/vr/ is part of a balanced breakfast"

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>>556767
>should of

>> No.556792

>>556753
I give up. Nothing has changed.

Thanks for the help though.

>> No.556831

>>556792
Try redownloading Zandronum?

>> No.556868
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>E3M7

>> No.556902

So what's /vr/'s opinion on mazes?

>> No.556910
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556910

Adding even more to the map, and added in more ammo (it was much needed, though still not enough towards the end). Hopefully I'll get around to finishing it sometime next week.

>> No.556912

>>556902
no.

>> No.556913

>>556902
Fun to navigate. If they're small, they're especially fun when you make the minimap not function with them. If they're large, though, let the minimap work.

>> No.556916

>>556910
Looks rad.

Had you posted this to Doomworld? It seems oddly familiar, but that might just be the title...

>> No.556921

>>556916
I haven't posted in Doomworld at all.I am not creative with titles to be honest. Also thanks.

>> No.556924

>>556913
What about more open ended ones with Hell Knights stationed around?
At the end of the maze is a SSG and shells you can take them out with, but if they see you before then you're fucked?

>> No.556930

Just wanted to let you know for next time

>> No.556935

>>556910
More ammo! Awesome.

>> No.556940

>>556930
BE adds them by default.

>> No.556964

ah ok

Those ZM maps aren't really my best work, they're old. They can be fun sometimes. Whatever you do, don't switch the server to LMS, it will crash.

>> No.556976

>>556924
Feeling lost is not a feeling I'm particularly fond of

>> No.556989

>>556940
That's why you add data=off

>> No.556990

Anyone knows how to fix the yeti crash in thehotelv3.wad? tired of that shit

>> No.557037

>>556060

Man, those D2 Mancubus look completely ridiculous compared to their roided up twins from Doom 64

Also lol at the comments section

>>556013
>>556041

...Eh, I had nothing to do today anyway, so I guess I'm in for a ride

If I don't success, however, I'll leave the instructions for anyone with a decent PC who wants to try this out.

>> No.557051
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557051

Currently playing through DOOM for the first time, the Xbox live version. I played it as a kid (I'm 30), the Mac demo first when it came out, and later a bit of the PSX version my buddy had and then I rented the N64 version, but I never played any of them all the way through.

Gotta say it's a blast. I forgot how FAST this game is, Jesus. I was running around at first and thought it was fast, then I hit the Sprint button and goddamn, it's like you're on a Hayabusa in this game! Games today are nowhere near as fast.

I gotta say Knee Deep in the Dead was good, if a little easy and boring at times. Great atmosphere and sense of dread though. I'm currently most of the way through episode II. I'm already enjoying the increased challenge of this episode compared to the first. In fact, the only times I've died so far are from the floor/ceiling traps, which I find incredibly cheap. Once, I got smashed in one and didn't die, and was stuck there and had to reload my save from the previous level, I couldn't restart the current one. Pretty annoying.

I just love all the sprites, the SFX, the feel, everything about it. Gives me many nostalgic feels, but also this game just holds up so well, even in the era of HALODUTY. After I complete this I want to look into the PC version and the whole world of WADs. Only reason I haven't yet is I already had the XBL version from a few years ago, bought it on a whim and never played it until now.

Anyway, just sharing my perspective, pleb though it may be.

>> No.557063

>>557051

Nah, it's cool, in fact we need more of those narratives from new people who has picked up the game again and/or for the first time ever

>> No.557069

>>557051
Everyone that discovers DOOM for the first time reaches gaming maturity and becomes a non-pleb.
Keep on RIP AND TEARING.

>> No.557074

Alright, I am available once again! I've finished everything I had planned,but I need more monster and weapon tweaks! More!
Most specifically for the barons of hell and their little cousins (that I don't remember their names offhand), since I don't have anything for them yet!

If you had any monster or weapon in Doom you would tweak, what would you tweak and how?

>> No.557089

>>557051
>186x139

>> No.557108

>>557074
Mancubus. Make them lift, and give them homing fireballs.

>> No.557112

polmapguy here

Just letting you guys know I'm dropping the doomkart project. Spent a couple of hours today fiddling with ACS and realized this is going to take a lot more time than I thought since I don't know ACS that well. And any maps I made now would just be wasted when the final build came out since they'll have to be designed around how the karts handle.

One of the three other acs-experienced anons that expressed interest in the project can pick it up. Whenever gameplay gets to how it's going to be on release I'll definitely map at least a track, likely more.

>> No.557118

>>557108
What do you mean by Lift? And I've already given them an unstoppable barrage of fireballs as it is, so I'm not sure I want to make them homing or they'd be more dangerous than most other things.

>> No.557127 [DELETED] 

Server: :: [BE] New York :: /vr/: Over The Edge of Shitposting
Password: suckitdown
8-player Stronghold invasion.
Reminder that Stronghold is a large file and will download slowly with WADSeeker so download the files directly.

>> No.557135

>>557074
The pistol, chaingun, plasma gun and BFG should all have their own unique ammo. But to make things compatible with pre-established levels and wads, make it so picking up bullets yields a certain amount of pistol AND chaingun rounds. Same thing with the energy cells for plasma/BFG.

Also the pistol should be less worthless. Make it more like a magnum or a semi-auto or something.

>> No.557138

>>557112
You should get a trip so we can believe you.
Because someone already did something similar once.

>> No.557141

>>557089
I bet you're one of those people that plays at 1600x1200... Get on my level pleb. 186x139 is the res it was meant to be played at.

>> No.557148

>>557118
I mean, Mancubus are slow, big, and burly meat sacks that can be circle-strafed over and over again. They are boring and mostly useless unless you find them on a dark corridor. They need to be dangerous instead of being "just there".

>> No.557151

>>557138

Fine, this is my trip. It's what I used to use on /diy/, and what is the map author name for the polmap. >>557112 this is also me.

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>>557051
My first experience with DOOM was also the 360 version, as I grew up with Duke Nukem 3D when I was a kid. For being on a console, I would say it's one of the better ports of the game, though I'm kind of picky about the music now. Since there's no vertical axis to worry about, I also thought it was really comfortable with two analog sticks. I absolutely loved it my first time through, and I was really disappointed that no one was playing on Live by the time I got it.

I now play on PC, Steam copies set up with source ports and a separate folder for Doomseeker, and I always enjoy playing the base games or PWADS from the DOOM Megapack in the OP (which you should really grab) every night before I go to sleep. I guess the point is that the 360 version is a good starting point if you're on console, and it's always nice to see someone discovering and enjoying DOOM for the first time.

Welcome to Hell!

>> No.557154

>>557141
>not playing at 64x32
Full on retard.

>> No.557156

>>557151

Also I'm probably just going to be using when it's absolutely required.

>> No.557161

>>557127
cool server bro

>> No.557162

>>557156
Fair enough

>> No.557164

>>557154
>64x32
>not 32x20
Do you even aspect ratio?

>> No.557169

>>557164
>32x20
>not 16x10

>> No.557175

>>557156
Good plan. As for the doomkart thing I'm sad to see it dropped again. I'm spriteguy (lolnotrip) and I was hoping something would've come of it. Here's hoping someone else picks it up.

>> No.557179

and this is how you take jokes too far

>> No.557181

>>557169
>>557164
>>557154
>playing at anything but 3x2
I didn't know this thread was full of casuals.

>> No.557182

>>557148
As it is now, they have more health, they're much much harder to pain, and they don't stop at three pairs of fireballs. They keep on firing until they're either pained or killed. They're giant durable slabs of meat, pretty much, with cannons stuck to the end- and I tweaked them to represent that idea some more.

>>557135
I'll see if I can get this down, but I'm too stupid to figure out how to change the starting weapon.

>> No.557184

>>557112

Also, while I endeavored to not over-represent my abilities or misrepresent what I thought I could do with the project, I apologize if anyone feels left down by this. I probably shouldn't have said anything until I already had some substantial work on it. That's what I'm going to be doing in the future.

/trip

>> No.557186

>>557181
>3x2
>not 1x1
What's it like to suck so hard?

>> No.557189

Does anybody use Particle fire enhancer?

And if so, how do you change the sfx? I tried to use perkistans HD SFX patch over it but PFEs still played now matter which load order.

PFE is perfect except the sound.

>> No.557191

>>557184
*let down, even.

>> No.557203

>>557182
You can use randomspawners for replacing ammos.
Also you have to make a new player class.

>> No.557204

>>557141
the original was at 320x200 you roodypoo. plus that's probably just some google image anyway

>> No.557208

>>557186
>not playing in negative resolutions so you can't see the game, and have to go off memory

just kill yourself already

>> No.557214

>>557204
Holy shit dude.

>> No.557216

>>557204
:|

>> No.557223 [DELETED] 

can you guys go somewhere else; the amount of fucking doom threads you make blots out the sun.

>> No.557225

>>557204

That was very rude and uncalled for.

I'm ashamed to be posting on the same imageboard as you.

>> No.557232

>>557223
It seems that you and your sunshine are doomed.

>> No.557235

>>557223
bugger off

>> No.557236

>>557223
eric
stopit
<@Eric> we manage to get one guy in every thread bitching about how our doom threads are blotting out the sun

>> No.557238

>>557223
Jog on, tosser.

>> No.557239

>>557223
We have one thread. Eat a dick.

>> No.557240

>>557223
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over all this RIPPING AND TEARING!!!

>> No.557243

>>557223
Bus wanker.

>> No.557250

>>557223
We ought to play smear the queer with you.

>> No.557251 [DELETED] 

>>557223
cock it

>> No.557257

>>557243
>>557240
>>557239
>>557238
>>557235
>>557232
>>557250
>>557251
STOP NIGGER
[20:01] <@Eric> we manage to get one guy in every thread bitching about how our doom threads are blotting out the sun
[20:01] <@Eric> they can't be that hard to find
[20:01] <%Marrub> actually
[20:01] <%Marrub> none in this thread
[20:02] <%Marrub> 232 posts
[20:02] <+Synert> [01:01] <Marrub> none in this thread
[20:02] <+Synert> you've jinxed it now

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>>557251
>>557250
>>557243
>>557240
>>557239
>>557238
>>557236
>>557235
>>557232

>off-topic shitposting

knock it off m8s

>> No.557260

>>557223
Fuck off Eric you tosser.

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gb2/vg/ doom babbies

>> No.557265

>>557223
You're a right bell-end.

>> No.557270

>>557223
Stop being a prick.

>> No.557271

>>557257
[20:07] <+Hardmode> i tried to post the "this is bait" pic
[20:07] <%Marrub> fuck you synert
[20:07] <+Synert> it's too late
[20:07] <+Hardmode> but the old thread isnt dead yet so its duplicate image
[20:07] <+Synert> this is all totally your fault though

>> No.557272

>>557223
I ought to knock your block off you tosser.

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>>557271
so smaht

>> No.557276

>>557261
Actually, that does kind of look like doomguy as a baby.

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>>557261

>> No.557283

>>557271
[20:09] <%ThreeNutBill> i wonder how many responses that /vg/ doom babbies post is going to get
[20:09] <+ijon> 400
[20:09] <%Marrub> thiskillsthethread.jpg
[20:09] <+Hybrid> Yes, you will crash /vr/
[20:09] <+Hybrid> FUCK

>> No.557287

>>557280
img set pls

>> No.557289

Are you guys cool if I host Speed of Doom with Doomtra?

>> No.557291

>>557280
This is still responding to bait.

>> No.557294

>>557289
please do

>> No.557296

>>557289
that'd be pretty rad

>> No.557306
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>>557289

Why not host chex quest coop?

>> No.557312

>>557287
http://imgur.com/mhK5d1b,tAOaIoK,KLTxw41

>> No.557313

>>557289
YES! I need some co-op doom.

>> No.557314
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557314

Where's the Doom, waiter?

>> No.557318

>>557291
if it can prevent another 20 wasted replies its worth it

>> No.557321

>>557314
rightere
>>557289

>> No.557363
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557363

Anyone up for some Murdin'?

Come on in.

Pass: vidya

>> No.557367

>>555957
Map generation image? Can I see that?

>> No.557378

>>557367
I am not sure what you mean, but I assume random map generator.
http://samiam.org/slump/

>> No.557381

>>557367
What?

>> No.557390

>>557378
>>557381
>You can ask /v/ for a specific picture regarding map generations and a few nice challenges

>> No.557405

>>557390
OH SHIT THAT
YEAH
i sorta lost it a long time ago
Impse may have it

>> No.557426
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557426

>>557405

No, I don't; sorry, you can try searching for it in the foolz archive

Also

DAS IT MAYNE, Speed of Doom with Doomtra

Name: /vr/ plays Speed of Doomtra
IP: 108.61.83.66:15005
Pass: vidya

>> No.557436

>>557208
>playing the game

lol noob

>> No.557450

>>557390
>/vr/

>> No.557454

>>557450
This image was made before /vr/ even existed.

>> No.557491

>>557454
The picture still says /v/, not /vr/.

>> No.557501

>>557491
It was last updated a long time ago.

>> No.557526

Mappers of /vr/, I present to you a challenge.
First, roll for a post number.

Generate an OBLIGE map using the last five digits of your post number as the seed. Use whatever the hell you want for the other settings.

Take that map and convert it for DM play. Preferably, the map would be edited to the extent that it could no longer be recognized as a creation of OBLIGE, but I'm not too picky.

Post your maps here when you're done. Once nobody's working on a map anymore, I'll put all the maps in one wad and we'll shoot at each other. Sound fun?

>> No.557542

>>557526
>edited to the extent that it could no longer be recognized as a creation of OBLIGE
Huh?

>> No.557545

>>557526

Sure thing. Gonna start on it tonight or tomorrow.

>> No.557553

>>557426

Bump, everything has been fixed now....

I guess

JOIN NIGGAS!

>> No.557558

>>557526
Why not Obhacks? Its still updated, unlike Oblige.

>> No.557561

>>557558

The dude who has been doing OBLIGE is about to update to v5

But still, both map generators need a lot of tweaking in order to make different stuff

>> No.557570

>>557542
It's pretty easy to recognize OBLIGE maps once you've seen even one. Besides the obvious "OBLIGE LEVEL MAKER" textures, there's certain patterns that the generator likes to follow. I'm content with simply removing the OBLIGE switch hunts and textures, though. Feel free to go further in making it look like it wasn't randomly generated.

>>557558
I dunno. Are OBHack's maps more easily converted for DM play?

>> No.557591
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557591

NEW VERSION OF THE DOOM SOUNDTRACK:
http://www.mediafire.com/?6x17s7bsgei5tv6
MP3'S AT 192KBS THAT SOUND JUST LIKE THEY DO IN-GAME

>> No.557613

>>554332
I don't notice anything different while playing this. What all things have been changed?

>>557591
>not 16kbps

>> No.557623

>>557613
>not 1.6kbps

>> No.557640

>>557613
Well, I'm between versions right now- working on splitting up pistol/chaingun and plasma/bfg ammo right now, but here's basically what the project does-
Turns all hitscan weapons to be projectile, tweaks monsters like making zombies less accurate, mancubi stronger, demons meaner, and pain elementals smarter.
I'm constantly modifying and reuploading the pack whenever I 'complete' whatever I'm working on. This latest bit has taken the longest, though.

>> No.557650

>>557623
>not 16bps

>> No.557668
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557668

>>557561
Really? I hope its good, something about having the option to create unlimited amounts of different maps without any effort makes me feel empowered.

>>557570
I don't see how it would be any more or less difficult.

>> No.557675

>>557650
>not 1509kbps DTS-HD MA

>> No.557681

>>557668
>can just set it to generate deathmatch levels
Kind of defeats the point, so I'm gonna stick with Oblige.

>> No.557684

>>557640
Sounds good to me. I wouldn't mind having all enemies normally easy to kill with 1 single barrel shotgun shot have more health

>> No.557705

>>556868
I think you mean e3m8, or e3m7 if you played snes doom

>> No.557713

>>557681
good point

>> No.557714
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557714

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27048651/OWHY.wad

>> No.557720

>>557684
I'm thinking of making a special 'armored' variety of zombies that randomly spawns instead of normal ones. And they drop 20 or so armor instead of whatever they'd normally drop.

>> No.557741

>>557591
Is there any MP3 to MIDI converters out there? I want to convert my Doom soundtracks.

>> No.557743
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557743

Yo Doomies. Just got back from Bookmans (AZ-local used book and vidya store), and I picked up these little gems.

Am I a cool guy now?

(I might post some more pics from the book if y'all are interested, it's kinda interesting)

>> No.557752

>>557741
>MP3 to MIDI

Have fun with your messed up tunes

Man, seriously, the output is a fucking mess

>>557743

Post dat battlebook mang

>> No.557758

>>557743
Id love to see some pics from the book.

>> No.557767

>>557743
Only if you play it.

>> No.557772

>>557743
I fucking hurt my neck turning my head to see the picture correctly
worth it

>> No.557787

>>557767
>playing videogames
I thought we just discussed them

>> No.557802

>>557787
>>>/v/

>> No.557824
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557824

>>557752
>>557758
>>557772
I'll probably just scan this later for you guys, but for now, I'll just do random pages

(gonna use a trip for now just cause I feel like it)

>> No.557836
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557836

>>557824
Also, sorry about the image rotation thing, posting the pics from an iPhone

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>>557836

>> No.557854
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557854

>>557846

>> No.557857
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557857

>http://www.mediafire.com/?92ld4rxrtak6efi
New version!
The hud is entirely fucked now, but the pistol now shoots heavier, and is much more accurate than any weapon save the BFG or rocket launcher!
Also, Pistol, Chaingun, Plasma rifle, and BFG all use different types of ammo, now.

I also made the plasma rifle pretty insane (and ammo-hungry, since the BFG is now using a different ammo type), so I'm not sure if I should change it back or not. So I'll definitely need feedback.

>> No.557882
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557882

>>557854
Anybody want more?

>> No.557892
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557892

>>557857

>Dat plasma gun

>>557854

>Cyberdemon
>Mastermind
>4 and 3 BFG shots

Niggas didn't knew about how the BFG worked at the time, from what I can tell

>>557882

Keep going bro

>> No.557896
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557896

>>557882
sure

>> No.557907

>>557882
>Lost Souls dodging rockets

This must have been made when the game was just released.

>> No.557963

>>557892
>Niggas didn't knew about how the BFG worked at the time, from what I can tell
Actually, thanks to the BLOCKMAP bug it wasn't possible to oneshot the Spider Mastermind until the rise of source ports.

>> No.557968

Is anyone else trying to ouse BASSMIDI with (G)ZDoom? When I sue it, the song starts out fine, but then quickly starts to distort *sounds like static/white noise) to the point where the song just goes silent.

>> No.557974

>>557857
>demon biting at me
>manage to kill him
>shotgunner around corner
>kill pinkie quickly
>reloading my SSG
>suddenly FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
>die
INTENSE SHIT
KEEP WORKIN ON IT

>> No.557986

>>557968
that's...
spooky

>> No.558002

>>554945
Google Direct MIDI to MP3 Converter, it's not free but you can just crack it with a serial. I've used it for a ton of midi files, it even supports soundfonts (.sf2)

>> No.558010

>>557974
Fuck it, I'm toning down the shotgunners. By making two of their pellets wildly inaccurate. Now it'll be harder for him to hit you with all of the blast, but harder for you to dodge entirely.

>> No.558062
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558062

Sorry if I kept you waiting, I was finishing my Taco Bell

>>557907
Copyright for the book is 94, so pretty much

"emy atta"
Either that's a printing error or some cryptic cry of help from the writer

>> No.558067

>>557857
Next, can we tune down the shotguns effectiveness by lowering its damage and increasing its spread?

>:)

>> No.558089

>>558067
>>558010
I did not see this post, so to avoid confusion, my post means the players shotgun. Shit kills half of the mobs in one shot, even at lengthy distances.

>> No.558108

>>558089
I can increase it's spread, yeah. In fact, the double barrel shotgun has a massive spread.

... Come to think of it, I could probably make the SB shotgun 'sawed off' and make its refire pretty fast.

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558118

>>558062
>backpedal
Do people even call it that anymore?
Captcha: the endedHel

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558162

>>558118
I don't understand why they didn't just trace over the map so and use that so it would look less pixely, but hey, that's just me

>> No.558175
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558175

This is a public service announcement:

Applying offsets to a series of sprites in Slade is a pain in the ass.

Thank you for your time.

>> No.558182

>>558162
I'm gonna go take a shower, after that I'll try and scan the book and upload it to Mediafire or something, cause I love you guys that much

>> No.558196

>>558175
You can use the change offsets menu with multiple sprites selected to do this easier.

>> No.558221

>>558196
Huh, would've been nice to know about that little menu about half an hour ago.

At least it's there for next time then.

>> No.558251

>>558175

That thing looks sweet, is that yours?

>> No.558264

>>558175
>flying pug dog with a mustache.png

>> No.558303

>>558251
It's from one of the resource threads on the Zdoom forums. I'll go see if I can dig it up, though I think you actually put the thread it came from in the resource bookmark pastebin.

>> No.558312
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558312

>live in stralya
>see guys playing multiplayer
>realize my internet is too shit to play well with everybody on /vr/ because i'm so far away

Oh well, I hope you all have a fun time.

>> No.558327

Anybody else feel that TNT: Evilution is damned hard? I find myself dying often on second to lowest difficulty! It seems they deliberately place health packs in unreachable areas to tease and spawn chaingunners at every corner to fokin' destruy me.

>> No.558331
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558331

Gumshoe is Doom Guy's father

>> No.558334

>>558327
TNT wasn't that hard for me

>> No.558336

>>558327
TNT and plutonia are made to be hard.

>> No.558338

>>558327
TNT is just right in difficulty. I can get by on UV.

Now Plutonia on the other hand...

>> No.558340
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558340

>>558327
Wait until Plutonia.

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558343

>>558312
>TFW the liberals will ruin the NBN before FTTP is rolled out to your place.

>> No.558347
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558347

>>558327
You're going to hate Plutonia, bro.

>> No.558349

>>558327

>Anybody else

We all actually feel like that, in one way or another. The extra episodes were made for hardcore fans for a reason

>>558331


The funny thing is, there's a Doom WAD somewhere floating on the internet in which you play as Gumshoe. It's not that widely known, mostly because it's an edited IWAD

>> No.558360

>>558349
Are healthpacks instant noodles?

>> No.558364
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558364

>>558312
I do not normally play online just for that reason.
>>558343

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558370

>>558343
Capital 'L' there, cunt.

>> No.558371
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558371

>>558343
>>558343
Yeah I'm worried about that.

Maybe it could be like a movie and I can go to parliament house and give an impassioned speech about the joys of gaming with my doombros and move everybody there to tears and they make a movie about me in 10 years or some shit. Then Abbott realizes what a huge dickhole he is and an heroes along with all the greens.

>this will never happen

>> No.558374

>>558349
ITS DOOMHACK
ITS GREAT
http://www.mediafire.com/?ogjcmxjwihbmgyk

>> No.558389

>>558371
>liberals
>opposing the internet
Liberal must have a different meaning in Austrailia.

>> No.558396

>>558389
Liberal just means pro-change, not pro-freedom.

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558402

>>557857
Nice spread pattern

>> No.558403

>>558374

I know! I downloaded it just because of dem yukkuris and their eazy deaths.

But then again, it doesn't help that it's an edited IWAD and people don't seem to like them as much as your generic PWAD, mostly because at this point in time it's more easier to pack everything into a WAD or a PK3.

Also, Doomhack is kind of a fuckfest with their tons of sprites

>> No.558415

>>558312
As a Kiwifag, I can safely say that it isnt nearly as bad as you think it is

>> No.558419

>>558402
I thought so. It's rather plasma-y, isn't it?

And I'm working on the BFG9000 right now. I have two varieties so far- one that makes a single, bouncing orb that homes in on monsters to touch them and bounce away (16 times right now) before exploding,
And this next one I'm working on will just be a giant fuckyoubeam of neon green railgunny death.

>> No.558426

>>558403
I'll gladly change it to a PWAD once it downloads. Hell, it might even work with Doom 1 then.

>> No.558430
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558430

>playing NUTS with Russian Overkill
>pic related happens

>> No.558435

>>558303
Found it.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=675525

If the less decorate-savvy folks are interested, I can post a little wad with the bugger working once I'm done with it.

>> No.558441

>>558419
I really like that idea

>> No.558446

>>558430
Nice copypasta bro.

>> No.558447

>>558430
That image makes me smile every time.

The last panel could be turned into a "Such is life in the DOOM zone" image.

>> No.558448

>>558389
>>558389
Australian liberals and American liberals are very different.

What they do have in common is that they're both retards, American ones are probably a bit worse but not by much.

>> No.558456
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558456

>>558389
The Libs are our conservative party.

We are not good with naming things.

>> No.558457

>>558403
The only thing that REALLY gets to me is the sound clip it plays EVERYDAMNEDTIMEYOUPICKSOMETHINGUP!

Doomhack was actually the first wad I downloaded off the internet, as when I first discovered doom general on /vr/, it was the first one I noticed. Confused the hell out of me, considering I had to load it from IWADs, instead of PWADs. Due to that confusion, and being the first one I ever downloaded, trying to add new PWADs confused me, because I kept loading them as IWADs. Long day.

>> No.558464

>>558446
I feel like I see that same picture every 2 threads

>> No.558470
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558470

>>558446
But I like it :3

>>558447
It's crazy fun to just blow up that entire level, same with getting the inventory upgrades for the super weapons which make nukes nukier, blackholes more numerous and ion cannon strikes blow up half the map.

>> No.558479
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558479

Can someone make a Samsara survival server pls.

>> No.558481

>>558456
But conservatives are pro-individual freedom! Liberals are pro-EQUALITY and IF IT HELPS SOCIETY, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT VIOLATES ONLY ONE PERSONS RIGHTS

>> No.558485

>>558419
>>558402
>Palsmarifle

>> No.558486
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558486

>>558430

>use satellite laser powerup
>right click
>my computer bursts into flames

Its not as if this thing can run NUTS very well to begin with, its a fairly old rig.

>> No.558498

>>558402
Is anyone interested in that d64hud?
I wanna post it, but how do I dropbox?

>> No.558506

>>558498
Put it in the dropbox.
Right click
Dropbox > Share Link

>> No.558508

>>558498
You can simply host it on mediafire
its simple and fast.

>> No.558514

>>558426
Be sure to shoot us a link for that PWAD! Please remove the audio for pickups though, or if anything, make it considerably rare for it to play, that is my only concern.

>> No.558532

>>558508
I always had an issue with Mediafire, and I never understood what the issue was. It has been awhile since I tried, so I don't quite remember what happened when I attempted an upload. Do you need to download a program for it to work or something like dropbox?

>> No.558537

>>558312
fellow ausfag here
i usually get around 250 ping, which isnt that bad, you just gotta get used to non-instant reaction times, if you can adapt to that then welcome to the fun

>> No.558541

>>558506
i have to sign up?
brb then

>> No.558547
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558547

Are there any wads that play really well with Russian Overkill if you want a challenge?

I played through the first 3 episodes on the hardest difficulty and it was still too easy (namely because of the guns that allow you to regen health).

>> No.558548

>>558532
Nope, you just make an account and upload it.

>> No.558556
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558556

>>558547
Plutonia

>> No.558559

>>558547
The only way to make Russian Overkill remotely hard is to play on the higher difficulties. By it's very nature all your weapons are so overpowered it makes most fights trivial.

At best, I'd say a fairly cramped map could make things challenging by forcing you to try and not blow yourself up.

>> No.558565

>>558470
more

>> No.558567

>>558547
What do you mean challenge? As in, how long can I survive without killing myself with all of these variants of nukes, or a RAM gauntlet where you see how long your computer can run it?

>> No.558570

>>558547

Try Sunder, Speed of Doom and The Eye with them, RO was specifically made to tell slaughtermaps "Fuck you, get eaten by a thousand sandniggers"

>> No.558571

>>558389
Libs are the conservatives.
Labor are the Liberals.
Case in point, we got a female redhead with a bogan voice as our Prime Minister, and she is Labor.

>> No.558575

>>558481
being conservative in australia means sucking the mining companies dicks every two seconds

>> No.558576

>>558481
Uh no, that's communism.

>> No.558580

>>555006

>>555390
>>557112
Anyone got that pol wad youtube link?

>> No.558586

>>558576
>>558575
>>558571
>>558481
pls stop

>> No.558589

>>558571
at least you don't have a muslim/african president with a wife that spends tax dollars to appear on nick choice awards

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558597

>>558565

>> No.558603

>>557175
We were talking about adding in other characters, if someone picks it back up again, would you be down with a Samsara-esque roster?
I'm really sad to see it stop and all, it's a great concept, I wish that I wasn't completely illiterate in every programming language under the sun.

>> No.558606

Ding
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yo8017tehekpvif/d64hud.wad
Just a warning, I ripped and tore this from that d64 wad so it's kinda messy (no standard status bar)

>> No.558615
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558615

>>558589
>muslim

>> No.558616

>>558597
Its difficult, but I think I can decipher the subliminal messages nestled into the picture. From left to right, spaceship to spaceship, it says, "Screw dad, mom"

>> No.558627

>>558586
no! Someone is WRONG on the INTERNET!

>> No.558630

>>558627
cena plz go

>> No.558632

>>558514
Alright... Just tried the game. Seems there were some modifications made to the map, so essentially a pwad would be "Doomhack: Zandronum Edition" (See I'm making a gameplay mod joke)

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>>558616

>> No.558640

>>558615
>because barack obama is a name you would give an african child

>> No.558647

>>558640
>because your name automatically decides your religion

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>>558638

>> No.558654

>>558630
i aint even cena

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>>558649

>> No.558660

>>558647
>implying that muslim isn't a race like jewish is
DROPS MICROPHONE

>> No.558662
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558662

Hey guys, I've got a question
So I downloaded the IWAD pack and ZDOOM, and I managed to play through Knee Deep in Dead with no problems
But when I beat it, the game ended. I tried advancing, but it just kept telling me "This is the shareware version of DOOM, please order the rest of the trilogy"
What do I do?

>> No.558663

>>558547
http://okuplok.webs.com/oku2v31.wad<wbr>

>> No.558664

>>558659
>shitposting.png

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558667

>>558659

>> No.558672

Another Public Service Announcement brought to you by the IRC

Whenever you create a server in BE or another hosting service, be sure to add the next line

>addban 121.209.100.142 perm "THANKS FOR WASTING YOUR EFFORTS BY TRYING TO LEAK THE PASSWORDS, GO DIE IN A ROTTEN HOLE YOU TRIPLE SANDNIGGER"

>>558662

Eh, you're playing the shareware version then.

>> No.558678

>>558664
How is posting an (in)famous doom comic, shitposting?

>> No.558681

>>558678
just that pannel

>> No.558682

>>558662
IT WASN'T SUPPOSE TO END LIKE THIS.

>> No.558684

>>558660
He's half black half white.
Triple sage for 100% off topic

>> No.558686

>>558678

He's just giving an alternate filename for it

>> No.558691

>>558663
Another note about this map, it's unbelievably hard with stock Doom weapons.

>> No.558693

>>558662
Go into the IWAD folder and drag the doom1.wad on top of zdoom.exe and release. Retry playing the second mission, and post again whether your issue was fixed or not.

>> No.558694

So, what's the deal with this "Classic Rivalry" thing?

>> No.558706

>>558663
>okuplok

Oh snap, I didn't know that guy made maps.

>> No.558714

>>558684
jeez, you say that like its any better

best flower for extremely offtopic

>> No.558716
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558716

>>558667
>>558659
>>558649
>>558638
>>558597
>>558470
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3LKadZ4LFU

Somebody actually animated it.

>> No.558721

We all know that to kill a cyberdemon you need to fire at him until it dies.

But how do you kill a Doomguy?

>> No.558728

>>558721
Make him stop.

>> No.558730

>>558721
Drop a ceiling on it.

>> No.558735

>>558721
With a Super Shotgun blast.
Haven't you ever played DM?

>> No.558738
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558738

>>558730

>> No.558741

>>558694

>Dude tries to pass up a long-forgotten mod of his from a ORIGINAL IDEA DO NOT STEAL that was ripped off by Samsara
>Does a normal zDoom thread, it develops normally without any issues
>Start spouting "guise do u think samsara ripped me off? :/"
>Everyone obviously replies that it doesn't has to do with anything
>Keeps spouting shit
>Gets proven by a lot of /vr/os (via posts in the thread and some videos) that his mod lacks balance and difficulty adjustment
>"lol get mad h8ters 8)"
>Shitstorm is about to ensue, but fortunately the thread gets locked

>>558721

Blast his ass off with a supershotty

>> No.558745

>>558660
>Comparing the ethnoreligious 'Jew' to muslims
I believe the term you're looking for is a 'Moor'. And no, being Kenyan doesn't make you a fucking Moor by any stretch of the imagination.

>> No.558750

Mods plz

>> No.558751

>>558694
See
>>556060

But yeah, Impse hit the nail on the head.

>> No.558752

>>558738

I've seen the other kind of Doomguy art of his in deviantArt..Totally NOT recommended to look for it

>> No.558759

>>558721
Circlestrafe.

>> No.558760
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558760

>>558752
I've handled worse but I'd rather not

>> No.558783
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558783

I know ''it's a videogame I aint gotta splain' shit" is an entirely valid reason, but just out of curiosity where might you see a corridor shaped like this in reality?

>> No.558807
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558807

>>558752

So I'm not the only one...And not even Ranger was safe from it...

Yep

>>558783

Not today...maybe in one, even two more centuries. Anyway, we have Tormentor and his mapping style to actually not to wait for dem centuries...

>> No.558817

>>558783

I know in several dams that I've been in there are corridors shaped like that.

They are about half the size though, assuming that is maybe 12ft wide.

>> No.558830
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558830

Fuck you, Heresiarch, and your fucking Castle of Grief, too.

>> No.558851

>>558783
a research lab


an ILLEGAL, TOP SEKRIT, CORPORATE research lab

>> No.558869

>>558693
"You cannot -file with the shareware version! Register!"
That's all it gave me

>> No.558874
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558874

>>558817
A dam? That makes sense actually.

There would be enormous amounts of pressure, huh - I learned today.

>> No.558887

>>558869
Why are you using the shareware version? Use doom.wad or doom2.wad

>> No.558903
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558903

>http://www.mediafire.com/?92ld4rxrtak6efi

The BFG is now a big green rocketshotgun!

Does more damage than the standard BFG, but it's limited in that it doesn't hit, y'know, everything on the screen. Instead it just shoots a bunch of sparkling bolts that explode on enemies- or bounce once on a wall, and *then* explodes on enemies.

That should be it for weapons! Now... I don't know what to do next.

>> No.558906

>>558874

Yeah. And they are more like that picture and kinda small than spacious and futuristic.

>> No.558920
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558920

>having the shareware version of doom in 2013

lol
I wonder what Carmack would even say if somebody called him out of nowhere and was like "yeah hi, i'd like to register this doom game, seems neat".

>> No.558924

>>558887
The only file labled doom.wad is Ultimate Doom
And I tried it out, but hell seems different than when I played the original version.

>> No.558936

>>558694
Dude makes shitty wad that's pretty much Samsara but completely unbalanced and bloated with MP3 files. Samsara guy makes Samsara to his own accord. CR guy thinks Samsara is a rip off. Bad mouths everyone. Tries to viral Market on /vr/. Fails. Shitstorms. Topic gets locked on zdoom forums. He's not allowed to make new ones.

>> No.558937

>>558903
Make the fist explode up to chaingunners but has a 5 sec chargeup.

>> No.558941
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558941

>>558920
Remember to ask if 3.5" diskettes or a CD is needed!

>> No.558945
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558945

>>558903
Looks like Christmas

>> No.558948
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558948

How about this one?

Impse uploaded a heap of corridor images the other day and I saved them all, so...thanks Impse.

>> No.558953

>>558948
Reminds me of Perfect Dark

>> No.558987

>>558937
I would, but I'm trying to shy away from making alt-fire attacks, and if I did that, the fist would be useless if you needed it in a hurry

>> No.559021

>>558987
Why no altfires?

>> No.559035

>>559021
Because then I'd feel obliged to make altfires for every weapon, and I... really can't be arsed. I think messing with monsters is more fun than weapons.

>> No.559048

>>558941
Shoot him up on twitter.
https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack

>> No.559049

>>559035
How about Altfire modifier unit

>> No.559056

>>558869
Did you download the link from the top of the page?
http://www.mediafire.com/?jdl2pbv0vfv0b6n

If that doesn't work, here is a torrent download.
http://thepiratebay.is/torrent/6382816/WAD_Collection_%28The_Ultimate_Doom__Doom_II__Final_Doom__Heretic_

Note: Click "Get This Torrent" NOT "DOWNLOAD"! The latter is a spam message, and will redirect you.

To torrent, you need bitTorrent software. I recommend uTorrent, because its small, but be sure to uncheck sneaky addons during installation process.
http://www.utorrent.com/

If all of this doesn't work, try a different Doom source port. I recommend GZDoom.
http://www.osnanet.de/c.oelckers/gzdoom/download.html

If all else fails, download the Doom Megapack
http://www.mediafire.com/?a01dhq1jk7i3p

and follow the youtube instructions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0QyGyUmwh8

>> No.559063

>>559048
You know I'd love to get his number and call him just to ask him for a floppy

>> No.559068

I'm using the megapack torrent, but I always get rejected for having the wrong version compared to the server.

Anyone know why?
Should I use the mediafire ones?

>> No.559072

>>559056
read
>>558924

Apparently they don't want Ultimate Doom b/c it's different than they remember.

>> No.559074

>>558903
Does it use less cells per shot now?

>> No.559075

>>559035
>THIS
Please don't change the scheme of edits.

>>559049
If you want altfires, I am sure there are plenty of pwads out there for your consumption that would work paired with ProjectILE.

>> No.559082

>>559068
I used the Megapack ones, since I had Doom II 1.7a instead of 1.9. Works fine.

>> No.559085

>>559072
I just kinda want to play the original right now
Sorry?

>> No.559089

>>559075
I'm saying
the unit is in game
only certain weapons can be modified for an altfire due to comparability of the unit
It's also an excuse to not have them ready from the get go

>> No.559101

>>559074
Nope.
It doesn't use cells at all.

BFGs use a unique ammo type known as nuclear cores for power, as anon asked me to separate the ammo types. Every box of cells in the game has a 1 in 5 chance of being nuclear core(s), or a 4 in 5 chance of being a power cell.

Similarly, boxes of bullets have a 1 in 5 chance of dropping pistol magazines (though they're not really magazines since you don't have to reload, but still), though zombiemen will always drop pistol magazines, and chaingunners will always drop chainguns/bullets.

>> No.559118

>>559072
Well shit

>>558924
You may prefer DOS version then, assuming that is the one you remember.
THIS TORRENT IS FOR YOU!!!!!!!
http://thepiratebay.is/torrent/7760139/All_Classic_Doom_for_DOS_-_ULTIMATE_and_2_and_FINAL_and_Master_L

You may need DOSBox, depending on your machine.
http://www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1

Report back with your progress.

>> No.559126

>>558924
Then play it on Chocolate Doom, or Dosbox.

>> No.559138

>>559126
Chocolate Doom only supports 1.9

>> No.559156

>>559118
no seed...

>> No.559168

>>559118
That's still the ultimate version though.
Fuck it, I'll just play that
Thanks anyways though

>> No.559172

>>559168
Isn't Ultimate the same as the original, just with an extra episode?

>> No.559179

>>559168
Ultimate is literally the same thing with an extra chapter.

>> No.559196

>>559138
Chocolate doom can emulate any executable.

>> No.559197

>>559172
>>559179
It's different. Ultimate has quite a few changes compared to Doom v1.2

>> No.559210

>>559197
Not really, just patches and secrets.

>> No.559213

>>559172
The only difference I can remember in the main episodes is the switch in the green armor room of E1M1 that opens a quick way into the courtyard.

>> No.559216

>>559197
>>559179
>>559172
where can I get Doom v1.0?

>> No.559219

>>559156
It says 4 seeds, just wait awhile. They may not be on their computer at the moment, or it may have not found the seeders yet. Patience, it will be worth it. Keep your computer on.

>>559168
WHAT ARE YOU EVEN LOOKING FOR! It may be the source port you are using. What do you mean by 'hell looks different'? As in, textures, or layout?

If texture, then go into options, compatibility options, and set it from 'Default' to 'Doom (Strict)'. You may also want to lower video resolution. Go to options, video mode, and lower it.

If map layout, YOUR FUCKED. There may be an ORIGINAL Doom download out there somewhere that I am unaware of, but all I know is Ultimate Doom, sorry.

>> No.559223

>>559210
That's a big diff.

>> No.559243
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559243

>kill Korax
>endless army of monsters starts spawning in
THIS IS WHAT I LIVE FOR

>> No.559247

>>559216
I don't know about full version, but here's the shareware.
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=7

>> No.559256

>>559243
>Playing without a scaled hud
How the fuck do you read that?

>> No.559259

>>559219
>inb4 my whole written instruction is voided by writing "your" instead of "you're"

>> No.559295

>>559256
Most of the time I was using fullscreen hud, which was scaled. I switched to the statbar because I finally used the dragonskin bracers I'd been stockpiling for the entire game and wanted to keep an eye on my armor.

>> No.559330
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559330

>>559243
Ran out of Kraters to support my Wraithverge addiction and had to retreat back to the portal. I think I almost broke 1500 kills before I ran out of mana.

It's okay though, because the ending is badass.
>Parias goes from a lowly cleric to a living god
>entire religions eventually devoted to worshipping the most metal man of all time

>> No.559372
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559372

So how would you feel if you were fighting some monsters in a somewhat enclosed area and you were doing the same thing you always do. Then you miss a shot or two and suddenly something triggers where you shot at and a monster appears from it thus making you need to have your shots count because you could trigger more monster closets.

>> No.559380
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559380

>>559330
>metal man

so you like french black metal, anon?

>> No.559381

>>559372
>let's make doom even more painful
sounds good

>> No.559386

>>559372
That would be fucking awesome and i'm shamelessly stealing that idea next time I need a trap.

>> No.559402
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559402

>>559330
>Metal Man

>> No.559407

>>559372
Why stop at monster closets, spawn barrels everywhere, lower the floor into lava, start crushing ceilings!

>> No.559414
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559414

>>559407
my face

>> No.559426

>>559407
why stop at monster closets, spawn barrels, lava, and crushing ceilings? you cannot forget the spider mastermind behind a one way window or the non existent ammo drops

>> No.559437

>>559372
Why not just teleport me into a Chaingunnner/Revenant trap complete with acid floors and long distance Mancubi.

>> No.559445

>>559426
>>559437
while all at the same time of being in a 5 x 5 room with nothing but a rocket launcher

>> No.559448
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559448

>>559445

>> No.559461
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559461

>>559330
>the most metal man of all time
It don't get more metal than this

>> No.559470

Why the fuck are circular staircases so fucking hard to make?

>> No.559473
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559473

>>559380
>>559402
>>559461
Hahaha.
Why.

>> No.559485

>>559470
because fuck linedefs

>> No.559504 [DELETED] 

>>559470
Regular ones are fine.
3D floor ones? Those can fuck a cow.

>> No.559515

>>559470
Regular ones are fine.
3D ones can fuck a cow.

>> No.559539

>>559426
>>559437
>>559445
>walls have worst texture available
>12 blocks lava
>12 blocks acid
>1 block regular floor but with a crusher covering it
>in a checkered pattern on the ground are explosive barrels
>chaingunners, archviles, and revenants teleport into box
>there is a slit in 1 wall that allows mancubi shots to gain entrance
>on the other side is a barred wall with a spider mastermind firing machinegun shots
>every shot missed spawns another enemy
>every shot landed is death by your rocket launcher
> exit door is out of the map, but in sight
There is no winning, is there.

>> No.559596
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559596

>>559470
Have I got just the tool for you!

>> No.559621

>>559596
Holy shit.
HOLY SHIT

>> No.559664

Alright, I've decided!

I'll sling an altfire of some kind onto every weapon! for the hell of it! Until I change my mind.

>> No.559731

And, here it is! The DoomHack PWAD!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cib2ffn79qmlgiv/DHPWAD.WAD

A list of changes:
- Anything that was included and was unchanged from DOOM2.WAD was removed.
- Every single map removed, except for MAP33
- MAP33 renamed to HAK01
- _DEUTEX_ and UNTITLED lumps were removed
- Empty namespaces (P2, F3...) removed.

Some notes:
- TEXTURE1 and PNAMES were left alone, because I don't know if he made any new textures or not.
- The mod DOES work with Ultimate Doom now.
- If a texture or sprite looks like it was taken from Doom2, Let me know. Chances are it was either taken from Freedoom or it was modified and it is easily swappable for a Freedoom texture.

Also, who the fuck makes a ZDoom wad in DeHackEd and not DECORATE?

LESS ANNOYING VERSION:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ch7612flq1kkzgp/DHPWADAN.WAD

This one removes the item pickup sound. That's it.
Personally, I liked it.
Tell me how it works, guys!

>> No.559738

>>559664
>flame thrower chainsaw yeah fuck yeah it fucking sucks but slowly burns overtime
>rapid burst fire pistol with extremely slow reuse rate
>shotgun no pump but is weaker
>super shotgun fires one shot at a time
>chaingun slowly revs up for more firepower
>plasma rifle shoots globs of plasma at five plasma per shot and damage overtime no direct damage
>bfg you already have an idea but fuck it damages all things on screen, but kills nothing
>fists UPPERCUT UPPERCUT UPPERCUT UPPERCUT etc..

>> No.559752
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559752

So how hard would it be to make a 3D spiral staircase that is several storeys high?

>> No.559757

>>559738
>Berserk pack altfire HADOKEN

>> No.559770

>>559738
Actually, it's more like
>... Rev the chainsaw to INTIMIDATE THE DEMONS.
>... Long charge up explosive punch! Explosive as in knocks everything around you away!
>Rapid fire inaccurate bullet-waster pistol
>Crack them with the butt of the shotgun for knockback!
>Right barrel fire!
>After a long windup delay, triple chaingunning speed!
>Single, damaging, bouncing plasma bolt.
>... And for BFG... I'll go.... time pause. For the hell of it. The bullets will be frozen in the air and everything.

>> No.559773

>>559752
To make a 3D floor, you need to have the sector below it have a certain sector ID.
Multiple sectors can have the same ID to define where the sector goes.
So you would have a ton of overlapping sectors where you want the 3D floors to go, and a ton of control sectors outside the map defining the multiple heights of the floor.
It would be complete torture.

>>559731
Aight, sweet.

>> No.559794

>>559731
Going to test it now, and actively update this here message.
Trying LESS ANNOYING VERSION
Trying Doom now.
Doom 1 Works! Textures look different, but fits well. No music from the wad, sadly, but has regular doom music. Very difficult.
Well, Chex Quest doesn't work. No animations, no shooting, but has weapon skins, enemy skins, etc..
Trying Heretic!
IT DONT WORK ABORT

I am only trying 3

>> No.559848

>>559770
exchange no pump shotgun for weapon bunt, and we have a deal.
or maybe a wild card. HOW ABOUT THIS.
alt fire has a chance to instakill enemy, shoot regular bullets and hurt enemy, shoot regular bullets and hurt yourself, or instakill yourself! THE RISK, THE GAMBLE

>> No.559858

>>559794
Sadly, since ZDoom has custom DECORATE for the monsters in Heretic, Hexen, CQ, etc, those won't work.
Plutonia and TNT work though.

>> No.559863

>>559773
Eh, it's hardly be torture if you planned the thing out. If it's just a circular spiral staircase, all you do is make sure each of the stair sectors have a separate tag, and that each control sector has the appropriate height assigned to it.

The best way I could think to do it is to map out one set of stairs normally, call it the rotation or something. Make note of the total span of height in that entire rotation - so say, if you have 16 steps of 8 height each, you have 128 height in each rotation. Then, when you make your control sectors, make sure that each overlapping control sector (That is, control sectors that occupy the same step space while lying on different heights) are spaced by 128 units of floor height difference. Things should line up fine after that as long as you keep track of your control sectors.

>> No.559881

>>559858
A boy can dream, Anon! Any way to have the music from the original wad, is that an exclusive to the annoying one, or no?

>> No.559882
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559882

>>559773
Sounds complicated, there are multiple ways to do 3d floors though.

Is there perhaps another way?
Or is there only 1 way to do it if you want a true 3d floor?

>> No.559886

>>559848
Sadly, I'm really fond of the weapon bunt. It won't be very useful, but it'd be cool. The pumpless shotgun doesn't quite make sense because pumping doesn't empower the weapon- it ejects the previous shell from the shotgun.

>> No.559892
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559892

I like where this is going.

>> No.559894

>>559882
It's really not that hard to do. Hell, I'll throw together an example wad to show you how you'd go about it if you need a reference.

>> No.559897
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559897

>>559863
Damn.

I guess I'll leave my tower section out until I lrn2 map better.

>> No.559904

>>559886
ITS A TOY GUN! I know it doesn't make sense!

Either way is fine, I wouldn't mind bashing in demon skull with a plastic stock

>> No.559909
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559909

>>559894
You would?

If it's not too much trouble man, if it'll take more than 10 minutes or something dont bother. Though if you do perhaps it can be mentioned in later threads as well as a sort of mapping reference so others can use it too?

I know the zdoom website has included a few tutorials on zdoom features (though they're a bit old now, prior to doom builder 2).

Failing that perhaps just an image we can all share here like "this is how you 3d staircase".

>> No.559910

Am the only one that really likes the elevators in CaH?

>> No.559913

>>559881
The music in the mod was named to replace the Doom 2 music. (D_RUNNIN, for example, is the music lump for MAP01 in Doom2.wad, so it is so for Doomhack)

However, I can make a MAPINFO that replaces the Doom 1 music too. It'd take time tho.

>> No.559928

>>559909
It's no big deal. I'm going to include something similar in a later part of the map I'm working on anyway, so it's helpful for me as well.

>> No.559941
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559941

I know some are tired of it, but no one is playing...and it's late...so...

Whodunit

Pass; vidya

>> No.559948

>>559909
That picture is fucking with me

>>559913
You don't have to, but it would be welcomed! How do you edit the files within a wad to convert it anyways? Slade? Stuff confuses me!

Anyways, goodnight /vr/iends.

>> No.559949

>>559941
Join us only two people in the server

>> No.559954
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559954

>>559928
Thanks mate. That's handy to us all.

>> No.559982

>>559949
now three!

>> No.560001
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560001

>>559909
>>559954

And done. Get it here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5569625/spiral%20staircase.wad

Handy tip: When you select multiple sectors of varying floor/ceiling heights, you can adjust all their height values relatively by using "++(number)" or "--(number)" in the height fields. This saves a bunch of time when adjusting the control sectors for each rotation of stairs.

>> No.560012

>>559982
lets get this game rolling

>> No.560028

>>560001
Well, it works

Dunno what else to say

>> No.560030

>>559904
>>559886
I really couldn't get the bunting to look right, so I went with a slightly tweaked version. Fires the shotgun three times in a quick sequence, and then pumps it. Problem is, all three shots are way inaccurate.
Next, the supershottie. Now I get to figure this crap out...

>> No.560035

>>560028
That's all it's really meant to do. Work, and be used as a reference for anyone who's not sure how it would be done.

>> No.560043

>>560030
how fast are we talking about here?
like slightly faster or sv_fastweapons 1 faster?

>> No.560105
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560105

>>560001
Thanks mate, this will be a handy learning resource.

>that is a lot of control sectors

>> No.560110

>>560043
Not quite that fast. About as fast as a vanilla pistol It basically forces you to commit to firing three times quickly and then pumping.

And now I'm running into supershottie problems. The 'Check For Reload' action doesn't seem to be working.

>> No.560120

>>560110
sounds nice

>> No.560207

>>560110
Man, I'm happy I'm not the only one who thinks the default pistol is borderline completely useless.

Always thought a real-life sidearm-esque pistol like a .45, solid 9mm would make more sense, or some over the top hollywood chrome Desert Eagle or something.

Brutal's replacing it with an assault rifle makes it way more effective, but i'd say too much so.

>> No.560221

>>560207
What I've done with the pistol is made it half again more powerful, and very accurate, but slower... and the altfire fires it wildly, much less accurately.

Also, supershottie completed! It's actually more accurate to use the alt-fire, because the bullets cluster around whichever barrel you're firing.

Now, chaingun!
Aaand I just realized that I don't know what I'd do for the rocket. Altfire rocket fires multiple, minor tracking ones, maybe?

>> No.560227

>>560221
DRUNK MISSILE MODE

>> No.560231

>>560227
DA

>> No.560242

>>560221
Costs 5 rockets, launches 3 in a spiral, homing rocket (slower? lower damage?), or higher damage with blowback and longer delay but faster travel?

Incendiary rockets? Or Drunk missile mode is fun.

Or a redeemer-esque pilotable/detonatable missile.

Or... I dunno.

You've already used 2 of my ideas, I can't explain how happy this shit makes me, not sure why.

Plasma rockets? Maybe leave a trail of e-mag/whateverhandwavium shit behind that drags smaller enemies into the wake, and slows down big dogs like Cybie/Arachs

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>>560221
>Altfire rocket fires multiple
>>560242
>3 in a spiral

Oh, yes.

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>>560249
oh god
OH GOD
YES

>> No.560260

>>560242
>Costs 5 rockets, launches 3 in a spiral
CONSIDER IT DONE

Also, chaingun altfire now fires all 600 bullets in... say, less than ten seconds.Killed a cyberdemon with it.

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Not sure if this gif will show properly since it was being screwy in photoshop, but I've made icons for the remaining spells and changed necromancy to make a cool pillar of smoke when the target is resurrected. In addition, resurrected enemies are translucent, and you can only resurrect them twice before they fade out of existence entirely!

As before, taking any suggestions for cool spells. So hit me with your best shot, if I can figure out a way to do it I'll put it in.

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>>560260
We Tri-Rocket launcher nao

>> No.560273

>>560264
Make fire versions of those ice pillars!

>> No.560280

>>559172
I believe Lost Soul behaviour is different between doom 1.9 and ultimate doom 1.9. Same can be said about doom 2 1.9 and final doom 1.9

>> No.560289

>>560273
>>560264
No no no, make it a fire spell that sets them aflame!

Also, it makes me happy that you added the necromancy.

>> No.560294

>Chaingunners, Revenants, a Pain Elemental, a Hell Knight, a Baron of Hell, and an Archvile all lie in wait for a trap to be sprung.
I am tired, but I want to add more to the map. Just this final room and then seeing if I can beat it. This is going to be really fun.

>> No.560326

>Play Sunder
>Actually a well crafted set of slaughtermaps

>Play Slaughterfest 2011
>only 5 or so good maps
>rest are 1994 quality pieces of shit.

>> No.560328

server: Sur/vr/ival of the Healthiest
pass: vidya

chex quest survival with 2 lives!

>> No.560332

>>560326
Sunder has phenomenal level design.

>> No.560340

>>560326
And looking at SF2012, looks like yet another slaughter megawad full of piece of shit maps. Doesn't help that the people who work on it think people only hate because "too hard" when thats not even the case with me.

>> No.560342

>>560339
NEW TREAD

>> No.560352

>>560326
It's kinda why Sunder is so exceptional. Most slaughtermaps are pretty generic and basic in their overall level design. Sunder is gorgeous, and even does it within Boom-format limits.

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>>555957
>zandronum died due to internet drama

Anyone care to elaborate?

>> No.560514

>>560457
you mean skulltag, zandronum emerg'd from the skulltag drama

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whats the password for the /vr/acation server? respond pls

>> No.560725

>>560352
Its not so much the prettiness and layout that makes me like Sunder. Its the fact that the slaughter gameplay actually feels playtested and balanced. Its maps actually require a strategy to complete them. The prettiness is just a bonus.

SF2011 and SF2012 are full of mappers who seem to just make arenas and splash monsters everywhere without thinking, resulting in plenty of maps that are purely luck based and generally tedious and boring. Infinite BFG certainly doesnt help cause it actually encourages them to make the maps long and drawn out.

>> No.560760

>>560725
I meant to mention the gameplay is well designed too, but forgot to add that part to my post. In any case, it's just that all the elements come together to make Sunder a great set of slaughter maps.

>> No.562951

>>558603
I think I'm probably done making sprites for it. Maybe death sprites for the 5 made characters, if it gets picked up by someone.

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