The Sega Saturn sold better in Japan than the Nintendo 64

[Anonymous No.5528791]

>Saturn: 5.75 million
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Saturn#Decline

>Nintendo 64: 5.54 million
https://www.webcitation.org/5nXieXX2B?url=http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/historical_data/pdf/consolidated_sales_e0912.pdf

I would say they were equally popular in Japan but it seems that more people are nostalgic about the Nintendo 64 than the Sega Saturn. Proof that the Nintendo 64 was only really popular in North America.

[Anonymous No.5528793]

>>5528791
Name 10 good Sega Saturn games, I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.5528795]

>>5528793
Honestly I feel it was the PC engine 2.0. Other than the first party sega titles, if you weren't Japanese, the library wasn't very appealing

[Anonymous No.5529012]

>>5528791
I never got why they went backwards with their controller and made the Dreamcast have only 6 buttons compared to 8 for the Saturn. I mean they clearly even saw that gaming was headed towards a future with more buttons being necessary not just from observing as the PS1 and N64 whooped their ass in the US but even on their own Saturn console for fucks sake. Then they go backwards to a six button controller when their competition wasn't doing this?

Its the little things like this why you realize Sega couldn't have possibly survived much past the 90s years as a console maker nor should they have. I loved their consoles but they deserved to fail for a multitude of reasons.

[Anonymous No.5529018]

>>5528793
Name 10 good Nintendo 64 games, I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.5529039]

>>5528793
Name one good game.

[Anonymous No.5529040]

>>5529018
OoT
Ogre Battle 64
GoldenEye
SM64
Banjo Kazooie
Mario Kart 64
Star Fox 64
Diddy Kong Racing
Wave Race 64
Majora's Mask
Perfect Dark
Harvest Moon 64
Super Smash Bros.
F-Zero X
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon
Goemon's Great Adventure
Animal Forest
Blast Corps
WWF No Mercy
Paper Mario

[Anonymous No.5529053]

>>5528793

Panzer Dragoon
Powerslave
Xmen vs streetfighter
Resident Evil
Mega man 8
Astal
Panzer Dragoon 2
Alien Trilogy
Knights
Radiant Silver Gun

[Anonymous No.5529057]

>>5529040
List consists entirely of exclusives, missing Rogue Squadron though
>>5529053
List padded with ports

[Anonymous No.5529227]

>>5529057
Panzer Dragoon Saga
ClockWork Knight
Beyond Oasis
Burning Rangers
Guardian Heroes
Saturn Bomberman
Daytona USA
House of the Dead
Shining Force 3
Virtua Fighter 2
Dragon Force
Virtual On: Cyber Troopers

Well, there’s the exclusives you bitched about. I did repeat any from the original 10 I posted either. Also, the ports I named originally like Reaident Evil and Megaman 8 aren’t found on the Nintendo 64, so it was appropriate to name them

[Anonymous No.5529239]

>>5528791
The N64 failed in Japan due to a severe lack of RPGs. All it had were platformers and FPS games, which are popular among westcucks, but japs have little interest on.

[Anonymous No.5529276]

>>5529239
>platformers
>popular among westcucks, but japs have little interest on.
DKC 2 and 3 sold more in Japan, retard.

[Anonymous No.5529279]

>>5528791
>make thread about Sega Saturn vs Nintendo 64
>use image of Sega Dreamcast peripherals
>doesn't indicate pic not related

OP le fag

[Anonymous No.5529287]

>>5529276
>Nintoddler cope
Japs surprisingly don't care much about bling bling wahoo, Nintendo makes it's profits from westcucks like you.

[Anonymous No.5529320]

>>5529012
Sega's controllers were always hopelessly undergunned, they kept having to update them
>genesis 3 button controller was no better than NES controller (dpad + 4 buttons), had to release 6 button pad to match SNES
>Saturn pad gained a whole 1 additional button over genesis 6 button pad, which was 1 less button than the stock PS1 controller and 1 less button and analog stick than N64 controller, had to release 3D pad to try and keep up
>Dreamcast controller was missing an analog stick and 5 buttons (2 vs GCN) vs PS2 and Xbox in exchange for a tiny monochrome screen, Sega left consoles but a replacement isn't unlikely if they had stuck around
>same thing probably would have happened with a theoretical Sega 7th gen console

[Anonymous No.5529321]

>>5529279
>le

back to plebbit

[Anonymous No.5529346]

There were around 300 N64 games released in America, but only around 200 in Japan.

[Anonymous No.5529374]

>>5529346
>There were around 300 N64 games released in America, but only around 200 in Japan.

There was over 1000 games released for the Sega Saturn in Japan, while the US market only received about 240 games (I don't have the exact number, but close to this). Most of those Japanese exclusives were games like JRPG's, shooters, fighting games that require the 1 or 4MB RAM cartridge, arcade ports that never made it to the west. There was also a lot of shovelware released in Japan too for the Saturn, like Mahjong games, horse racing sims, hentai digital novels, and stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.5529375]

>>5529040
all shit except for oot and mario 64

[Anonymous No.5529864]

>>5528793
Nigga, I could name 10 Capcom games alone and beat the shit out of your list:

Dungeons & Dragons Collection
Cyberbots
Street Fighter Alpha
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Vampire Savior
X-Men: Children of the Atom
X-Men vs. Street Fighter
Marvel Super Heroes
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter

[Anonymous No.5529981]

>>5529374
>Most of those Japanese exclusives were games like JRPG's, shooters, fighting games that require the 1 or 4MB RAM cartridge,

There are three different types of cartridges for the Japanese Sega Saturn. ROM cartridges, 1MB RAM cartridge and the 4MB RAM cartridge. The ROM cartridges were used for 5 games total, four of them King of Fighters games. ROM Cartridges contained additional character sprite animation/ common data that was streamed to the system to reduce loading times. It was a weird way to handle data. Then there is the 1MB RAM cartridge, which is just additional system memory that the Saturn could use. It was used in about 40 games. It was optional in some games too, and add additional frames of animation and such. The 4MB RAM Catridge is supported by about 50 games, but a lot of them also support the 1MB RAM cartridge too. There are only 7 games that use the 4MB cartridge exclusively. Shadow over Mystara on the Capcom D&D collection, Final Fight Revenge, Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter, Street Fighter Zero 3, Vampire Savior: The Lord of Vampire and X-Men vs. Street Fighter. Every RAM catridge game was left behind in Japan. And there were a lot of good arcade ports that use it. Mostly fighting games, though. There were a few exceptions like Metal Slug, Shadow over Mystara, Cotton 2 and a few others.

[Anonymous No.5529986]

>>5528793
name 10 good /v/tards, I'll wait

[Anonymous No.5530095]

The Japanese market is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.5530156]

>>5529375
Took you awhile to show up. There are better games in both of those genres on that list. How could you like those two and not somewhat also enjoy Mystical Ninja and Banjo-Kazooie?
>>5529227
This is a lot better. And while those ports weren't on the N64 (which did have an admittedly dumbed down RE2 at least), many were on the PSX. But that's another argument for another thread.

[Anonymous No.5531970]

>>5530095
Overseas market was irrelevant to Japanese too, they made stuff for their inner market first and foremost. US and Europe were mostly an afterthought.

[Anonymous No.5532151]

>>5528793
Purikura Daisakusen
Batsugun
Deep Fear
Shining the Holy Ark
Magic Knight Rayearth
Cotton 2
Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru
Virtua Cop
Layer Section
Hyper Duel

[Anonymous No.5532218]

>>5529981
KOF96 & 97 used 1mb cart not a rom cart. There are only 3 KOF games on saturn

[Anonymous No.5532225]

Yeah, N64 sold more software though.
They both did well in Japan, even with Sony taking ahold of most of the market.

[Anonymous No.5532229]

Console wars shit is fucking autistic.

[Anonymous No.5532298]

>>5528795
That's pretty much what it was.

[Anonymous No.5532305]

>>5531970
So irrelevant that Sega went broke trying to get them despite their domestic success.

[Anonymous No.5532325]

>>5532229
Console wars are going to be history soon because a certain US corporation fell for the SJW meme.

[Anonymous No.5532352]

>>5532151
>Purikura Daisakusen
>Batsugun
>Deep Fear
>Shining the Holy Ark
>Magic Knight Rayearth
>Cotton 2
>Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru
>Virtua Cop
>Layer Section
>Hyper Duel

Sega Rally Championship 95
Fighters Mega Mix
NiGHTS into Dreams (Yeah, the game is good)
PowerSlave
Darius Gaiden
Shining Force III
The Legend of Oasis
Elevator Action Returns
Guardian Heroes
Panzer Dragoon II Zwei

There's another ten games.

[Anonymous No.5532405]

Is OP's post auto generated? Why the Dreamcast controller? I know it pops up in google image searches for Sega Saturn but it's so distinct in it's design it would be impossible for anyone with the vaguest interest in games to mix the two up. Then we get to the issue if bringing up the Saturn while making a statement about the 64's popularity. Yes, the Saturn sold slightly more in Japan and the 64 made the bulk of it's sales in the US, but even in Europe Nintendo pushed SEGA'S shit in that gen by an almost 6 to 1 ratio... So why the Saturn? Is this a test run for a topic pushing AI?

[Anonymous No.5532453]

>>5529040
He said GOOD games.

[Anonymous No.5532495]

>>5532405
Maybe OP messed up?

[Anonymous No.5532504]

Saturn doesnt have NFL Blitz so lets just leave it at that

[Anonymous No.5532518]

>>5532495
He'd have to have fucked up twice for that to happen, and it doesn't pardon inexplicably bringing up the Saturn to make a point about the 64's overall popularity. Something's really off here.

[Anonymous No.5532549]

>>5531970
And the company died because of it. Just like every other company that focused on Japan did. The Japan market has been completely irrelevant since the 80s, SoA themselves we're the first to prove this and upset the nips so much by it they intentionally tanked the company trying to stick it to the dirty gaijin.

[Anonymous No.5534037]

>>5528791
You do realise that there are countries beside Japan and America, right? The N64 was fairly popular in Australia, for instance. Why would the N64 be popular in Japan, anyway? It was a system defined by its non-Japanese games. Much like the Xbox that followed it, it marked a point where people could be console gamers and say, "I don't like Japanese games."

[Anonymous No.5534081]

>>5532549
^_^

[Anonymous No.5534331]

>>5528791
>Never the console
>Never drew a dime
>Never had a good game outside Japan
>Buyrate tanked so hard Sega quit the console business after Dreamcast
>Difficult to develop due to complicated architecture and quads
>Only the 3rd best-selling 5th generation console worldwide
>Only the 3rd best when it comes to 3D rendering performance
>Jannetty to PlayStation even later on in Japan
>Launch Daytona USA port badly optimized Sega Rally guys had to code a better port
>Sonic game development shafted so badly that FIVE Genesis Sonic games have to be ported
>High reliance on arcade ports
>Every decent first-party Saturn game with international release had a PC port, further questioning relevance of Saturn
>Online services used by nobody
>Porn games literally allowed in Japan in pitiful attempt to get salarymen dimes, causing a ROM site to list a stripping game the most downloaded Saturn game at one point
>Existence pretty much erased from Sega's official history books outside Japan as a result of tanking Sega's console chances

[Anonymous No.5534343]

>>5532453
Those are god tier

[Anonymous No.5534734]

>>5529057
>Complains that a best games list is made up of exclusives
>Complains that a best games list has ports

[Anonymous No.5534929]

>>5529320
What? Saturn controller's are 8 button controllers. Same as the original PS1 controllers.

[Anonymous No.5535045]

>>5534331
>Every decent first-party Saturn game with international release had a PC port, further questioning relevance of Saturn
PC ports from the era are weird though, fucking FF7 and Metal Gear Solid had PC ports yet most people don't even know they existed and consider them PS1 exclusives. This happened a lot for PS1 and Saturn games.

Nice /asp/ posting though.

[Anonymous No.5535681]

Didn't want to make a new thread just to ask this question, and this seemed like the best thread to do it, does anyone know what's going on with this game? PSX and 3DO versions go for about $20 complete, but the Saturn version is going for $300+ on eBay. Is it just absurdly rare and people need it to complete their NA Saturn collections or something? It can't be the game itself because it looks and plays like dogshit.

[Anonymous No.5535695]

>>5535681
>It can't be the game itself because it looks and plays like dogshit.
Look up the prices of Waterworld for the Virtual Boy, it's pretty much the worst game on the system yet it fetches a pretty penny. Sometimes rarity takes precedent.

[Anonymous No.5535698]

>>5535695
Someone's got to be buying that shit for the price to be staying high

[Anonymous No.5535703]

>>5535695
I figured it was a case of absurd rarity(it only shows up on eBay complete like six times a year apparently), I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something else artificial, like some YouTuber memeing it into relevance.

[Anonymous No.5535712]

>>5532405
You know, you just made me remember how all posts on 4chan are fuel for machine learning AI... now would be a good time to stop posting again

[Anonymous No.5537635]

>>5532405
nice catch

[Anonymous No.5537651]

>>5535712
So do you think princess is a bot or just a troll?