/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5528063]

STOP HOARDING ROMS

[Anonymous No.5528072]

>>5528063
Are there even any unavailable games that we know exist and are worth experiencing?

[Anonymous No.5528076]

>>5528063
don't tell me what to do ever again, you fucking kike.

[Anonymous No.5528078]

>>5528072
>are worth experiencing

slippery slope anon, let everybody experience anything they may possibly want to experience

[Anonymous No.5528083]

>>5528063
t. rom hoarder trolling for supporting arguments

[Anonymous No.5528084]

>>5528072
https://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=7201

It's said to be very fun by everyone who tested it-and it's lost.

[Anonymous No.5528087]

>>5528072
Lots of them* but I was mostly talking about the practice of downloading thousands of roms, then playing a them for < 5 minutes in a poorly configured emulator without reading manuals or giving the game a fair shot.

*most of them are from the sixth generation onwards and are essentially the unreleased dev PC versions of games that got downgraded for an exclusive console release.

[Anonymous No.5528094]

>>5528087
>Lots of them* but I was mostly talking about the practice of downloading thousands of roms, then playing a them for < 5 minutes in a poorly configured emulator without reading manuals or giving the game a fair shot.

Not the anon you were just talking to, but that's one heck of a stretch. Is this Scott?

[Anonymous No.5528103]

>>5528094
nigga who the fuck is scott

[Anonymous No.5528106]

>>5528084
>Bouncer was seen in the low budget martial arts film Ninja 3: The Domination. The game is in the main character's apartment and she is seen playing it. The main character becomes possessed by the spirit of a ninja, and as he overtakes her body, the arcade cabinet begins to bellow out smoke and hypnotizes her with a little laser show from the screen.
lel, I used to watch this movie every time it came on TV.

[Anonymous No.5528113]

Every time I hear the owner of some 'one-of-a-kind' prototype game assure that the ROM is already backed up for preservation purposes, my response is, it's not backed up so much as it's (still) locked up. To those who find comfort in that default explanation, ask yourself - what media is the archived material on, how many copies are there, and how and where are they being stored? Because there's no one media that's completely failsafe. If you think there is, you're fooling yourself.

There's always the 'long game' option where you have to wait until someone dies in the hopes the game gets sold or donated, and finally 'escapes' out into the world... but in that situation, there's usually a greater chance of the item being discarded and destroyed. Or someone's significant other decides to clean the basement or garage or attic. Or their house catches fire and burns to the ground, destroying everything they've kept. These aren't what-if scenarios. I've personally run across them over the years from people I've talked with from the industry. So before some of us continue to demonize some unnamed tech or owner for their 'dastardly deed', consider the bigger picture here. There's already been too many games lost over the years. The people who created them spent months - sometimes a year or more - making each one. They didn't make it for someone to squirrel it away like some forgotten relic. They made it for others to enjoy, and they should continue to do just that, long after we're gone. And if it takes someone to rescue/steal it back from the gollums of the world, so be it.

[Anonymous No.5528116]

>>5528103
He's a piece of work who registered over at the MAMEworld website on April 18, 2005 and then didn't post a single post until April 16, 2019-waiting almost 14 years to the day to come out and reveal himself to be fuckwipe that spied on them all that time to swoop in and outbid their preservation team. *inhales* ALL so that he can have muh precious. Now he's angry that one of his preciouses isn't so precious anymore.

[Anonymous No.5528119]

>>5528106
>lel, I used to watch this movie every time it came on TV.
Me too. The golf course scene was considered hardcore '80s kids when it came out. lol I remember some recess debates as to exactly why ninjas are bulletproof and also zombies. 'cause that makes sense. Now I need the movie for the game footage alone plus laughs.

[Anonymous No.5528125]

>>5528076
Pay for roms goy!

[Anonymous No.5528132]

STOP HOARDING MOMS

[Anonymous No.5528134]

is there a complete list of lost games out there? The lostmedia wiki seems really incomplete

[Anonymous No.5528135]

>>5528116
what, is MAMEworld a closed forum or something like that?

[Anonymous No.5528137]

>>5528134
klov aka the arcade game museum has a complete or near complete list, but not for consoles.

[Anonymous No.5528141]

>>5528135
Technically yes, in that one has to register to post, but anyone can read, but the point is that he purely registered to spy and then to outbid their preservation team so that he can inflate his ego by getting off on having games that no one else can play. That's it. He's just a slimey punk who needs his collection taken away asap by an act of God.

[Anonymous No.5528142]

>>5528137
console roms are what I'm most interested in, so of course nobody keeps track of them. Sasuga

[Anonymous No.5528145]

>>5528141
how can one "spy" on a public forum?

[Anonymous No.5528147]

>>5528141
what is he hoarding, out of curiosity?

[Anonymous No.5528148]

>>5528063
>hoard"ing" roms
How have you not finished? It's pretty easy to download No-Intro sets for every non-disc based system prior to the DS, and keep them. Only for disc-based/recent systems with large isos and roms should you be selectively downloading. Some hoard even these but they might need to chill out.

Oh, and you don't actually use your hoard folders. You have an Archive folder (where everything goes, by console/system folder of course) which is essentially just to draw from and add to your curated Rom folders which you copy your selected roms to. Whenever you discover a new game, you can just copy it from your archive to your curated selection.

[Anonymous No.5528149]

>>5528145
He also had access to other features, go read the thread: http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=381957&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&vc=1

[Anonymous No.5528152]

>>5528147
He's got the most complete Beavis and Butthead arcade game (some only have four or less levels, while his has five) and Marble Madness II, and more.

[Anonymous No.5528153]

>>5528148
My archive is the internet.

[Anonymous No.5528159]

>>5528153
Yeah well mine is much faster, local, and the time saved was far more than searching for a rom online every time. You also know you're not getting shit dumps.

[Anonymous No.5528160]

>>5528142
Frankly, between Wiki as a starting point just for names, emuparadise, and this site I'd say you can know them all. Download them all? Unlikely, but then again last I checked one can even download Bally Astrocaid ROMs.

[Anonymous No.5528167]

>>5528147
He is hoarding the original development kits for early arcade games like Robotron too.

[Anonymous No.5528172]

If people stopped talking about hoarders and giving them attention they'd likely release the roms just to get people to talk about them again

[Anonymous No.5528215]

>>5528113
>The people who created them spent months - sometimes a year or more - making each one. They didn't make it for someone to squirrel it away like some forgotten relic
The ROM is based on a copyrighted/protected character that is still very much under copyright protection. If you don't want your butt sued into the next century by the Disney folks (or worse, have the chip confiscated as "intellectual property"), you just may want to keep that "Goofy's Swim Meet" ROM to yourself.
Also, I think another part of it is the collector's mentality of uniqueness. As long as the collector is the only one who has it, it's a one-of-a-kind collectible. It's like owning a unique piece of art. Let's say you have the MOna Lisa and no one else does. Hell, no one has ever laid EYES on it. There's only a rumor it exists, but YOU have it in your house. Only YOU have ever looked at it and know of it's existance. Nifty feeling of ownership there. Now let's say you allow prints to be run and/or copies are being made. Sure, everyone else has a cheap knock-off compared with your original, but the "essence" is no longer unique. It's no longer as exciting to be The Owner as everyone now has an identical version in their home too. Personally, I think this next point is a big 'un. Why give away something for free that cost you plenty? If *I* had spent years making contacts and meeting folks/asking for leads, and I later in life have the once-in-a-lifetime chance to purchase a never-before-heard-of ROM for thousands of dollars, I don't think I'd be very willing to just give it away just because the nameless masses are clamoring for it. *I* spent the time and effort. *I* followed the leads and made the phone calls. *I* emptied out my bank account to get it. And now you want me to just GIVE it to you because you want to play it? No thank you, ma'am.

[Anonymous No.5528220]

>>5528063
Geez, don't scream at me.
How does one actually hoard these ROMs?

[Anonymous No.5528240]

>>5528063
stop hoarding physical copies collectorcuck

[Anonymous No.5528242]

>>5528215
>If you don't want your butt sued into the next century by the Disney folks (or worse, have the chip confiscated as "intellectual property"), you just may want to keep that "Goofy's Swim Meet" ROM to yourself.
you are fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.5528262]

Hoarders are the lowest form of scum that has ever existed and ever will exist.

[Anonymous No.5528285]

>>5528063
Are even any worthwhile ROMs being horded? As far as I’ve looked into it there’s mostly just abandoned unfinished demos basically.

[Anonymous No.5528296]

>>5528262
Whatsup, ladies and gentleman, boogie2988 coming at you live with the power of the internet

[Anonymous No.5528302]

Anti-hoarders need to grow up already. It's not your property, it's not in your possession, you're not even offering compensation for it. By all means, you should not have access to the roms. "B-b-but archiving history...", oh shut up. Pieces of history are lost every single day. It is impossible to even assume that a form of media can ever be even mostly archived. At this point, attempting to archive these games is like a parody of the sunk cost fallacy. You know, even if it were that important to archive these games, there is still no reason for the game to be released to the public. The hoarder can be very well capable of backing the game up and keeping the archived versions private. The desire for roms to be released to the public for "true archival" is really just a pathetic mask for retards that can't stand someone having something they don't.

[Anonymous No.5528319]

>>5528072
>Are there even any unavailable games that we know exist and are worth experiencing?
We know FOR A FACT that Ura Zelda exists in someone's hands that isn't Nintendo
>>5528113
I agree, but man, once you start understanding the Japanese proto-collecting culture, you'll realize how many subhuman slant-eyes are keeping this shit away from us. Yea, I sound entitled, and if someone owns one it's their right to do what they want with it, but all of them are selfish and have no regard for what it would do for the community and gaming as a whole
>>5528262
Unironically, this. I fucking hate Japs.
>>5528285
If you call them "Abandoned unfinished demos" like they aren't worth something then you obviously don't understand the importance

RIP Nintendomad

[Anonymous No.5528321]

>>5528302
This.

[Anonymous No.5528328]

>>5528302
>It's not your property,
The ones and zeros inside those chips belong to society at large in most cases because the respective companies no longer exist. Public domain, Scotty.

>>5528302
>Pieces of history are lost every single day. It is impossible to even assume that a form of media can ever be even mostly archived. At this point, attempting to archive these games is like a parody of the sunk cost fallacy. You know, even if it were that important to archive these games, there is still no reason for the game to be released to the public.
^"Duh duh don't dump ROMs! My collection might lose some of its value and also-and most important of all, I'll lose some bragging rights, even though I still have the original hardware. It's about making others feel that they don't have what I have, guys! Sheesh!"

We know, Scott, we know.

[Anonymous No.5528331]

>>5528319
>>5528328
If I had a one of a kind very sought after game, I'd destroy every trace of it from the face of the earth to make sure people like you would never see it.

[Anonymous No.5528335]

>>5528302
>>5528321
If you knew that the actual Holy Grail that Jesus Christ himself drank out of existed, but was in the hands of some sweaty morbidly obese gook, would you be ok with that? Religion's most important artifact, in the hands of someone who is never going to show the world, all out of either spite, greediness? I wouldn't be either
>inb4 lol spaghetti monster jeebus dont exist LOL XD

[Anonymous No.5528338]

>>5528319
>the community and gaming as a whole
who invited the homo

[Anonymous No.5528340]

>>5528335
>the strawman to end all strawman
It's time to get off the internet, sonny.

[Anonymous No.5528341]

>>5528331
And that makes you a selfish, spiteful, small-minded, childish asshole, anon. I own a game of which there are only 1000 and it cannot be emulated and I bought a physical copy. Now, if I can crack the copy protection , you bet I will release it to the world. You'd just play it in a closet and laugh an impish laugh. "Hee hee! I love me!"

[Anonymous No.5528346]

>>5528341
Good, that means I'm not brainwashed or stupid enough to deny human nature. You're not some kind of virtuous, ascended being that's making the world a better place by sharing. You're a pathetic subhuman that wants everyone to have everything, because that's a much more plausible possibility than you having something others don't.

[Anonymous No.5528356]

>>5528262
I have about 20 computers, 8 monitors, 8 handhelds and a small collection of video and sound cards. Does that make me a hoarder?

[Anonymous No.5528358]

>>5528346
>You're not some kind of virtuous,
Yeah, everyone is a failure of moral and intellectual truth, anon. You should be a director with your projection experience.

[Anonymous No.5528363]

>>5528335
are you seriously comparing a notorious piece of religious history to unfinished video games that 90% of people didn't even know existed?

[Anonymous No.5528364]

>>5528358
Kek, you're actually THAT delusional. Watching the suffering of people like you is one of the finer things in life. I don't think the world is gonna hold together for much longer, but the best part is knowing that regardless of what happens next, people like you will never get your way.

[Anonymous No.5528365]

>some guy bought the last copy of something and now I'll never play it!
tough shit

[Anonymous No.5528369]

>>5528365
Yes, it's literally it. Commies be seething.

[Anonymous No.5528371]

>>5528364
>Watching the suffering of people like you is one of the finer things in life.
You're a dumb larper, nothing more. You don't even own one arcade cab, but that's beside the point that you're just a Boomer prick who will lose all his possessions to the state pretty soon.

>>5528364
>the best part is knowing that regardless of what happens next, people like you will never get your way.
Neat. I'll remember that the next time I play Raiden II on a PC.

[Anonymous No.5528373]

>>5528369
If anything you're on the commie side because you're ok with ROM chips going bad and then never standing any chance of being dumped into a commercial application (of which happens often).

[Anonymous No.5528378]

>>5528371
Who's projecting now? :v)

[Anonymous No.5528382]

Honestly off the record /vr/, how many of you actually care about archiving these games rather than just making sure that something isn't solely in the hands of one person?

[Anonymous No.5528384]

Is it ok to horde ROMs of current arcade games still in production?

Is it weird for a bar to crowdfund buying an arcade game they then charge to play? I saw one do that.

[Anonymous No.5528387]

>>5528373
>commercial application
>endless lowlife niggers like yourself pirating it day one
Nah, I'd rather it be destroyed and be amused at the plebeian's reactions.

[Anonymous No.5528391]

>>5528382
0.001% combined for both responses

The other 99.999% ONLY care about being able to play whatever they want for free.

[Anonymous No.5528393]

>>5528384
>Is it weird for a bar to crowdfund buying an arcade game they then charge to play?
Is it weird to help pay for someone's car and then pay for gas when they drive you around in it?

[Anonymous No.5528394]

>>5528382
No one cares about preservation, it's a giant crutch to project their jealousy and resentment on.

[Anonymous No.5528395]

>>5528378
That's not even a response that makes any sense. 18+ damnit.

>>5528382
>Honestly off the record /vr/, how many of you actually care about archiving these games rather than just making sure that something isn't solely in the hands of one person?

I care. The games were meant to be played by as many people as possible and they are art, in fact, more artful than "art" in modern art galleries. George Lucas at least had the decency to officially release Star Wars IV-VI on DVD, while vidya hoaders say we should be glad we have our memories or sometimes just the word of others and that's just as good. [!]

[Anonymous No.5528404]

>>5528387
t. SEETHING no-skill hoarder who literally derives pleasure from the perceived discomfort others. I bet you're a nice driver too.

[Anonymous No.5528405]

>>5528395
Hurr durr 18+, says the triggered zoomer with the ad hominem posts. You want things for free, nothing else.

[Anonymous No.5528406]

>>5528319
>We know FOR A FACT that Ura Zelda exists in someone's hands that isn't Nintendo
We do? Some new developments? I haven't looked in on that in years.

[Anonymous No.5528407]

>>5528395
>they are art
okay i laughed

[Anonymous No.5528408]

>>5528387
t. SEETHING no-skill hoarder who literally derives pleasure from the perceived discomfort of others. I bet you're a nice driver too. Dude, thanks for the chat because it reminds me of how many cockroaches like you that infest what is mostly a fun hobby for fun people, i.e., not you.

[Anonymous No.5528410]

>>5528395
>The games were meant to be played by as many people as possible
who paid the asking price of the game in some way

[Anonymous No.5528413]

>>5528404
I like the no-skill out of nowhere. How does that even apply here? Do /shmup/ use NO-SKILL like commas or periods? You're mentally ill, anon. You bet I enjoy seeing people like you in discomfort.

[Anonymous No.5528414]

>>5528405
>Hurr durr 18+, says the triggered zoomer with the ad hominem posts. You want things for free, nothing else.
I own arcade cabs, boy. And consoles. And PCs. I paid for all of them, but it's the end of the world that I'm playing Akka Arrh for free, eh? ;) Also you started the bs, not me, so you calling muh ad hom doesn't fly.

[Anonymous No.5528419]

>>5528384
>Is it weird for a bar to crowdfund buying an arcade game they then charge to play? I saw one do that.
How much?

[Anonymous No.5528421]

>>5528413
>>5528413
>I like the no-skill out of nowhere. How does that even apply here?
It's the core of their sadness and the reason why they must defend their precious, anon. They suck at everything-including the kindergarten lesson or sharing, so they lash out, and hoard.

[Anonymous No.5528424]

>>5528395
It seems like you're more interested in the communistic aspect than the actual archival of these games.

[Anonymous No.5528425]

>>5528419

https://shop.bumblebeargames.com/collections/arcade-games/products/killer-queen

[Anonymous No.5528426]

>>5528414
Sure. I like how your tone shifted once you got triggered. I don't really give a shift about emulation, it's about entitled degenerates that demand unreleased property be dumped. No one owes you shit, the world doesn't owe you shit. Go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.5528428]

>>5528424
Yes, he wants things for free, and he wants everyone to have it because that's the only way he's ever putting his hands on it.

[Anonymous No.5528429]

>>5528426
>. No one owes you shit, the world doesn't owe you shit.
Wrong. Learn your rights.

>>5528424
I'm not the one who typed up "commie" first, anon. Wow this is easy. I win, really. Now I'm going to ignore any more non-game posts. Akka Arrh has a wicked cab imho.

[Anonymous No.5528431]

>>5528421
That makes no sense. You just sound bitter and jealous that I have something you don't, and you're having a tantrum once you understand that you will never have it.

[Anonymous No.5528432]

>>5528384
>Is it ok to horde ROMs of current arcade games still in production?
If they're still in production then it's a different story-unless it does a Bouncer.

[Anonymous No.5528434]

>>5528429
No, it's not wrong because you say so.

[Anonymous No.5528437]

>>5528429
Look all I'm saying is that you seem to be more interested in ensuring that everyone can play these games rather than ensuring these games are backed up for historical purposes. No need to get so defensive..

[Anonymous No.5528439]

>>5528431
>That makes no sense.
Sure it does, you just don't want to admit that you're wrong.

>>5528431
>You just sound bitter and jealous that I have something you don't
Scott, I don't care that I'll never play some games because that is everyone's destiny; there are not enough hours for everyone to play all the games, but selfishness of items intended for mass release is asinine. If I can play a game and it interests me, I'll play it, and if it slips through, it wasn't my destiny to play it. Apparently the world was supposed to have Akka Arrh and that's the end of the story.

[Anonymous No.5528445]

>>5528429
When someone gobbles up the last known copy of a game you don't have, who owes you what in that scenario?

[Anonymous No.5528447]

>>5528439
No.

[Anonymous No.5528451]

>>5528437
>Look all I'm saying is that you seem to be more interested in ensuring that everyone can play these games rather than ensuring these games are backed up for historical purposes

I give what I get, but you're mistaken. Preservation is the first thing that ought to happen, but more often than not, it's a simultaneous endeavor e.g. MAME. We're having our cake and getting to eat it too since 1997.

[Anonymous No.5528454]

>>5528445
I owe it to myself to find it.

>>5528447
>No.
lol Search your feelings you KNOW it to be true.

[Anonymous No.5528461]

>>5528454
Lmao, your pathetic rhetoric came to an end. Time to pack it up.

[Anonymous No.5528462]

>>5528454
ahahahaha

[Anonymous No.5528464]

>>5528461
>imagine being this deluded^

[Anonymous No.5528467]

To be honest i don't give a fuck about these games i just don't want some fat fuck to have the pleasure of being the only one with a copy

[Anonymous No.5528472]

>>5528467
Anti-hoarders in a nutshell.

[Anonymous No.5528474]

>>5528467
I really don't know why people have to get so up in arms about it. Like imagine there was some really cute girl and some 300-pound retard had her locked up by ball and chain. Of course no one's gonna give a damn about her state of health, they just wanna make sure that guy's not the only one piping her.

[Anonymous No.5528475]

>>5528474
That makes no sense whatsoever. Stop watching anime, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.5528476]

This boards quality sure has been in a steady plummet.

Now we have anime posting retards who think screeching out shit like a socially stunted autists is endearing.

[Anonymous No.5528481]

>>5528476
Oh shut up. I am so sick of people always pulling the "it used to be good" card. Here, there, everywhere. Everyone wants to pretend the past was better when it was the same god damn shit. Different times, different problems, but at its root it's always the same god damn thing. /vr/ has always had people like you complaining over this and that since the first damn week it came into existence.

[Anonymous No.5528484]

>>5528148
>Oh, and you don't actually use your hoard folders.
Do not be a pussy.

[Anonymous No.5528485]

>>5528476
The current rules limit the userbase to collector kids. Someone who played sixth gen as a kid is 30 now, and only losers post here past 30.

[Anonymous No.5528491]

>>5528485
>and only losers post here past 30.
>I'm not an elitist dough

t. plebbit trustfund 20something

[Anonymous No.5528501]

>>5528063
I can't. I'm hopelessly addicted. There's nothing that fills me with more pleasure than when I get a whole set imported.

My only concern is that eventually, I'll run out of shit to add in.

[Anonymous No.5528502]

>>5528481
It actually was better though

[Anonymous No.5528505]

[Anonymous No.5528506]

>>5528087
I've pretty much downloaded every single SNES and GBA rom that is either in English, fan dubbed, or can be played in another language anyways. I rarely every boot them up anymore. It's kind of sad how many times I've done exactly what you've said. Booted up a game, fiddled around with it, then realized I didn't want to spend an hour in the "tutorial zone"

[Anonymous No.5528509]

>>5528506
When was tutorial front-loading at its worst?

[Anonymous No.5528510]

>>5528505
I own a copy. Have a taste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmsEp6WGIbg

[Anonymous No.5528520]

>>5528485
You say that now, kid....

[Anonymous No.5528540]

>>5528481
No, you shut the fuck up. Posting stupid ass anime threads with le wacky screaming OP's is peake /v/ tier.

[Anonymous No.5528571]

>>5528319
>>5528335
absolutely based japs making this retard sperg out in impotent rage on an agora for the jilted, miserable disfunctional dregs of society

[Anonymous No.5528573]

>>5528540

[Anonymous No.5528578]

If you think vidya hardware hoarders are bad..
Millionaires that compulsively buying up insanely expensive "lost" paintings in private auctions by artists like Monet, Van Goh ect. to keep them sealed away in there collection and deliberately keep them from the public and from museums, just because they can.

[Anonymous No.5528582]

>>5528578
I agree that's shitty, but banksy is a pretentious twat who doesn't belong on the same tier as any classic artist.

[Anonymous No.5528583]

>>5528582

[Anonymous No.5528591]

>>5528583
The problem is all these liberal retards going around telling their kids they can be whatever the hell they want. Everyone wants to be an artist and instead of telling them they need to do something else, these limp-wristed shitheads go with it and cheer at how well their kid drew a stick figure. Next thing you know we've got a whole bunch of mediocre artists who've been told their whole life that they're good and they can be the next van gogh lined up to take their place on the big stage. Of course no one's gonna bother trying to actually make good art after they see those retards get by so then it snowballs.

[Anonymous No.5528595]

>>5528591

[Anonymous No.5528596]

>>5528382
If the publishers or developers refuse to re-print the game(s) on modern consoles, then I'm all for ROM dumps because it's a damn shame when a fuckton of genuinely good licensed games would have otherwise been lost forever or only be able to be played by the likes of elitist insufferable faggots.

Because let's face it, pretty much all the Marvel vs. games not 3 or Infinite are never getting re-released ever again, the same for games like Scott Pilgrim, The Simpsons, X-Men Arcade, JoJo, and so on.

[Anonymous No.5528601]

>>5528591
How do you think makes the graphics in your video games? It's not just nerds hacking on keyboards.

[Anonymous No.5528626]

>>5528063
You expect me to buy physical copies that are no longer for sale for years, not counting second hand stores? Besides, I don't have the space, let alone money for my collection of MAME Roms.